Re[2]: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Thomas, Sunday, January 20, 2008, 1:51:29 PM, you wrote: ?Therefore, I suggest to include a tickmark in the settings for the ?viewer profiles somewhere: ?[ ] Change viewer profile according to message encoding ?... or something like that. It would make it optional, and we can both ?work the way we prefer. Yes, it might be a good suggestion. I second it ;-) ?I see the extra ? but didn't know the reason for it. Perhaps it only happens in Chinese OS system... Since TB would use new unicode MicroEd to replace window/HTML editor, this issue might be vanished at that time. -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) with AntispamSniper v2.5.0.2 MyMacros 1.11a on Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello drifthat, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:29:21 +0800 GMT (20/01/2008, 17:29 +0700 GMT), drifthat wrote: [ ] Change viewer profile according to message encoding ... or something like that. It would make it optional, and we can both work the way we prefer. d Yes, it might be a good suggestion. I second it ;-) Stefan, are you still following this thread? -- Cheers, Thomas. I know that the work cycle is not plan/start/finish, but is wait/plan/plan. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Thomas, And I don't think that TB! can detect the language,... I don't think that what I do would help you with the issue you are discussing but it may for some other language related ones. I use PopFile to detect Spam (with a 99.69% accuracy BTW) and Non-Spam is classified according to language. See attached the headers of you message. I use this for example in my reply templates to automatically select the Spell Checker dictionary for my replies. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: Language.png Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello MAU, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:13:55 +0100 GMT (20/01/2008, 18:13 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M I use PopFile to detect Spam (with a 99.69% accuracy BTW) and Non-Spam M is classified according to language. See attached the headers of you M message. I use this for example in my reply templates to automatically M select the Spell Checker dictionary for my replies. This is an excellent tool. Wow. Now, this would require TB! to be able to use this language information to choose the viewer profile, may make it more complicated. For myself, I wouldn't want to have to install and configure another software, I would just like to use the current easy way. Keep it simple. Defining a default viewer profile with easy switching to another, would do it for me. This is how it is now. -- Cheers, Thomas. ...(A)bort, (R)etry, (G)et a beer? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:23:33 +0200 GMT (19/01/2008, 06:23 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: PO Let's say what I dislike of 'PTV' behaviour I noticed starting with PO this alpha: PO - how signatures are displayed PO - not using fixed-width fonts (http / mid links) ST These things are configurable - you can set it all to a single ST monospaced font in a single colour. Actually, I'm thinking of ST different display profiles you can apply to a viewer. I guess, it's ST not a bad idea... It's a very bad idea from where I sit. The PTV is set to Courier New, which I like for texts in Latin letters, like English. Thai letters look horrible in it. The RTV is set to AngsanaUPS, which I like for texts in Thai. I looks very ugly when displaying texts in English. The fact that I couldn't make the PTV to display a different font from the RTV made me downgrade back to 4.0.0.6. The loss of the flexibility of easily changing the font is a show-stopper for me. I thought making MicroEd UTF-aware would enable me to display UTF-encoded messages in the PTV. That would have been a real improvement over having to view them in the RTV! I grudgingly accepted viewing them in the RTV, waiting for the improvement. Now it's even worse: Even non-UTF encoded message are displayed in AngsanaUPC. No good at all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Sign in a shop: Open 24 hours a day, longer on weekends. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Thomas, TF The fact that I couldn't make the PTV to display a different font from TF the RTV made me downgrade back to 4.0.0.6. The loss of the TF flexibility of easily changing the font is a show-stopper for me. Hey, I am talking about adding more flexibility here! :-) I mean, it will be possible to use multiple (not just two) profiles for viewer... Your message reminds me about the idea to attach different font settings to any character set, now it shaped into automatic choise of a viewer profile based on message's character set. -- Cheers! Stefan Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Guten Tag MAU, am Freitag, 18. Januar 2008 um 23:54 schrieben Sie: The only thing i disclaim about is: i can not read the signatures in grey and -2 of font size. Options/Preferences/Viewer-Editor/HTML-Windows Editor/Item: Signature Text. Yes, shame on me, that you provide my lazyness to search it, but thanks a lot, now readable. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Thomas, Saturday, January 19, 2008, 9:59:54 PM, you wrote: ?It's a very bad idea from where I sit. snip ?I thought making MicroEd UTF-aware would enable me to display ?UTF-encoded messages in the PTV. That would have been a real ?improvement over having to view them in the RTV! I grudgingly accepted ?viewing them in the RTV, waiting for the improvement. Now it's even ?worse: Even non-UTF encoded message are displayed in AngsanaUPC. No ?good at all. As I'd said several months ago, make it possible to use different font for different charset encoding message. Just like Becky(http://www.rimarts.co.jp). I might use SimSun for gb2312 message, Courier New for English one and MS Gothic for shift jis encoding... etc. -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) with AntispamSniper v2.5.0.2 MyMacros 1.11a on Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:23:42 +0200 GMT (20/01/2008, 00:23 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: TF The fact that I couldn't make the PTV to display a different font from TF the RTV made me downgrade back to 4.0.0.6. The loss of the TF flexibility of easily changing the font is a show-stopper for me. ST Hey, I am talking about adding more flexibility here! :-) I mean, it ST will be possible to use multiple (not just two) profiles for viewer... I only saw that I don't have any flexibility here... missed the part where you mentioned added flexibility. Yes, sounds good, actually. In the meantime, kindly let me use the PTV with Courier New again, I don't want to have to read this list (and all my other mails) in AngsanaUPC. Have you tried that font? If so, you'll understand what I mean. And I don't want to have to change the settings in my RTV either, because I do receive messages in Thai... ST Your message reminds me about the idea to attach different font ST settings to any character set, now it shaped into automatic choise ST of a viewer profile based on message's character set. I was just going to ask you what you mean by profile and how easy it is to switch. Right now, I toggle by right-clicking in the message and left-clicking on Use Plaintext, that's very quick and easy for me. Changing the viewer profile based on character set is dangerous. I receive messages in English language from people who use Thai encoding as default on their computers - I want to read these messages in Courier New. Other people will send message with that encoding in Thai, which I want to read in AngsanaUPC. Right now, the PTV with Courier New is set as the default, and I believe your viewer profiles will also have a default profile, in which I can set Courier New, with easy switching to AngsanaUPC. I don't have need for a third font anymore, but I used to receive mails with Chinese characters, usually addresses or company names in Chinese inmidst an otherwise English email. Summary: The viewers in 4.0.0.6 do exactly what I need. The situation in 4.0.0.12 is such that it renders TB! unusable for me. If you want to add flexibility, fine; but do not take the existing flexibility away in the meantime. I will watch the announcements of new betas (alphas) and will download again when I have a choice of switching/toggling again. -- Cheers, Thomas. Der erste Tag am FKK-Strand kann fuer einen jungen Mann sehr hart werden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello drifthat, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 02:01:34 +0800 GMT (20/01/2008, 01:01 +0700 GMT), drifthat wrote: d As I'd said several months ago, make it possible to use different d font for different charset encoding message. Just like d Becky(http://www.rimarts.co.jp). I might use SimSun for gb2312 d message, Courier New for English one and MS Gothic for shift d jis encoding... etc. Stefan replied in his mail to me that this is what they are planning. I'm not so sure I want automatic switching of fonts gbased on charset: People write to me in English from their Thai computers, using a Thai encoding as default. The font should be switched according to the language used, not the encoding. And I don't think that TB! can detect the language, so let's just have a default and easy switching. Idea: Let us choose the default font (viewer profile) per account, not as a global setting. And maybe let us override the account setting in the folder settings. -- Cheers, Thomas. Um zu antworten, bitte die From-Zeile mit ROT13 bearbeiten. Danach mit MD5 hashen, zeichenweise den ASCII-Code um 2 erhoehen (mod 57) und erneut um 63 erhoehen. Dann mit der urspruenglichen Adresse x-oren. Schliesslich am Ergebnis erfreuen und so antworten wie gewohnt. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello drifthat, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:31:56 +0800 GMT (20/01/2008, 12:31 +0700 GMT), drifthat wrote: d As you said in d msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If there d is a default font profile per account(or per folder), just right click and d select Using default font profile menuitem. All is done. d BTW, this message is encoded in gb2312. If TB implements the default font d profile per account feature, your PTV/RTV toggling trick will still work in d similar way, right? Yes. But I don't want to have to toggle all the time. I want Courier New, regardless of the message encoding. d I *do* need the viewer profile per charset feature. Because I get d simplified chinese, traditional chinese, english and japanese d email. Not a single font is suitable for those 4 encoding. OK, fair enough. Therefore, I suggest to include a tickmark in the settings for the viewer profiles somewhere: [ ] Change viewer profile according to message encoding ... or something like that. It would make it optional, and we can both work the way we prefer. d Can you see the extra ? leading the quotations above? That's what d the windows/HTML editor has done in my system...This issue occurs d when the TRichView component was introduced in v3.5.x or so, IIRC. d And never fixed till now. I see the extra ? but didn't know the reason for it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Thomas, Sunday, January 20, 2008, 11:00:47 AM, you wrote: ST?Your message reminds me about the idea to attach different font ST?settings to any character set, now it shaped into automatic choise ST?of a viewer profile based on message's character set. ?I was just going to ask you what you mean by profile and how easy it ?is to switch. Right now, I toggle by right-clicking in the message and ?left-clicking on Use Plaintext, that's very quick and easy for me. ?Changing the viewer profile based on character set is dangerous. As you said in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If there is a default font profile per account(or per folder), just right click and select Using default font profile menuitem. All is done. BTW, this message is encoded in gb2312. If TB implements the default font profile per account feature, your PTV/RTV toggling trick will still work in similar way, right? ?Summary: The viewers in 4.0.0.6 do exactly what I need. The situation ?in 4.0.0.12 is such that it renders TB! unusable for me. If you want ?to add flexibility, fine; but do not take the existing flexibility ?away in the meantime. I will watch the announcements of new betas ?(alphas) and will download again when I have a choice of ?switching/toggling again. I *do* need the viewer profile per charset feature. Because I get simplified chinese, traditional chinese, english and japanese email. Not a single font is suitable for those 4 encoding. I have to use Simsun in RTV because gb2312 message is the majority. Of course, I can use Courier in PTV for english mail, but how about the other two? What's more, in current version of TB, only PTV can display asian encoding mail properly, the RTV shows extra square, question mark or other garbage characters in chinese OS system. Can you see the extra ? leading the quotations above? That's what the windows/HTML editor has done in my system...This issue occurs when the TRichView component was introduced in v3.5.x or so, IIRC. And never fixed till now. -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) with AntispamSniper v2.5.0.2 MyMacros 1.11a on Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2008-01-18 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2008-01-17 · 21:18 h (CET)] Hello, Maxim! The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar Up and running. Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello MAU, M As long as fonts, colours, etc., are configurable, I see no big problem. Sure, they are already configurable. See my message to Peter. -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, Actually, I'm thinking of different display profiles you can apply to a viewer. I guess, it's not a bad idea... No, it's not a bad idea at all. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Peter, PO Let's say what I dislike of 'PTV' behaviour I noticed starting with PO this alpha: PO - how signatures are displayed PO - not using fixed-width fonts (http / mid links) These things are configurable - you can set it all to a single monospaced font in a single colour. Actually, I'm thinking of different display profiles you can apply to a viewer. I guess, it's not a bad idea... -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, RTV and PTV are now looking almost identically, the only difference (yet) is that PTV still doesn't display smileys as graphics. M Does that yet mean that PTV will actually disappear? No. It will actually replace RTV :-) As long as fonts, colours, etc., are configurable, I see no big problem. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Jens, The only thing i disclaim about is: i can not read the signatures in grey and -2 of font size. But this might probably be configurable. Options/Preferences/Viewer-Editor/HTML-Windows Editor/Item: Signature Text. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Guten Tag Peter Ouwehand, am Freitag, 18. Januar 2008 um 21:34 schrieben Sie: If you mean that the new PTV will show messages as in the attached png, then I vote to have the old PTV behaviour restored. Thank you. The only thing i disclaim about is: i can not read the signatures in grey and -2 of font size. But this might probably be configurable. But i see the Message right like your screen shot and i am purely Plain-Text Fan. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello MAU, RTV and PTV are now looking almost identically, the only difference (yet) is that PTV still doesn't display smileys as graphics. M Does that yet mean that PTV will actually disappear? No. It will actually replace RTV :-) -- Cheers! Stefan ...Breathing may be hazardous to your health. Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, RTV and PTV are now looking almost identically, the only difference (yet) is that PTV still doesn't display smileys as graphics. Does that yet mean that PTV will actually disappear? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Thomas, TF All messages are suddenly shown in the RTV now. Is the PTV on TF temporary leave, or is it just over here? I upgraded from 4.0.0.6 to TF 4.0.0.12. RTV and PTV are now looking almost identically, the only difference (yet) is that PTV still doesn't display smileys as graphics. -- Cheers! Stefan ...Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Maxim, On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:18:10 +0200 GMT (18/01/2008, 03:18 +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar All messages are suddenly shown in the RTV now. Is the PTV on temporary leave, or is it just over here? I upgraded from 4.0.0.6 to 4.0.0.12. -- Cheers, Thomas. Kommt ein Mann in ne Bank: Haende raus, Geld hoch, ich bin eine Geisel! - Gell, Sie wollen's in Schilling? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewer issue (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA))
Hello Peter, PO If you mean that the new PTV will show messages as in the attached PO png, then I vote to have the old PTV behaviour restored. What behavour do you mean exactly? -- Cheers! Stefan ...I'm an idealist. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm on my way. - Carl Sandburg Current beta is 4.0.0.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar What's new in 4.0.0.12 since 4.0.0.11: [-] When importing an S/MIME certificate (in the internal implementation) and you already had the same certificate already installed, and the existing certificate had a private key, this private key might have been lost. Up and running -- Rick The Mideast Oil Crusade did more for militant Islam than Osama EVER could have. v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar What's new in 4.0.0.12 since 4.0.0.11: [-] When importing an S/MIME certificate (in the internal implementation) and you already had the same certificate already installed, and the existing certificate had a private key, this private key might have been lost. Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
Het was donderdag 17 januari 2008 om 21:18 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)' : Hallo Maxim, MM The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar not really a beta issue but could you guys please bring in some maroon/burgundy color in the startup logo?? I'm REALLY NOT into blue ;) And burgundy combines beautifully with blue... doesn't it? -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: Everyone wants a bus service to their door, but no one wants a bus service in their street. __ The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3244 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, at 22:18:10 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:18 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar What's new in 4.0.0.12 since 4.0.0.11: [-] When importing an S/MIME certificate (in the internal implementation) and you already had the same certificate already installed, and the existing certificate had a private key, this private key might have been lost. Up and running - -- Henk M. de Bruijn _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgpN6DS4bxgNZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
Guten Tag Cees, am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 um 22:13 schrieben Sie: not really a beta issue but could you guys please bring in some maroon/burgundy color in the startup logo?? I'm REALLY NOT into blue ;) And burgundy combines beautifully with blue... doesn't it? Well, if we would not have had such a lot of things to do, they would have been able to release the 4.0 Version in the first half of january (formerly known as christmas edition) but did you ever try to paint red or burgundy rabbits ??? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
Hi Maxim, Thursday, January 17, 2008, 1:18:10 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar What's new in 4.0.0.12 since 4.0.0.11: [-] When importing an S/MIME certificate (in the internal implementation) and you already had the same certificate already installed, and the existing certificate had a private key, this private key might have been lost. I don't about the above correction, but I can say that with this version, I can again create a new folder without having an AV. Hooray! Thanks for the good work. Bob Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA)
On Thu 17-Jan-08 2:18pm -0600, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40012.rar If this is intended to be an Alpha, as would appear obvious, why not name the packed file tba40012.rar instead of tb40012.rar. Why not use tba for Alphas, tbb for Betas and thebat for releases? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
