Re: beta/17

[MAU]

Hello Martin,

> downgraded to 3.99.6, filters are back again and it looks like if all
> filters are back..

Looks like you are experiencing what I reported in:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6425

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Re[2]: beta/17

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Martin,

Monday, August 20, 2007, 17:00:34, you wrote:

>>downgraded to 3.99.6, filters are back again and it looks like if all
>>filters are back...
It will take us a few days to resolve this issue. Stefan is working on it 
currently.

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Re: beta/17

[Martin Sebald]

Hi Maxim,

downgraded to 3.99.6, filters are back again and it looks like if all
filters are back...

Regards,
Martin


> Monday, August 20, 2007, 3:56:52 PM:

> Hi Maxim,

> I'm missing most of my filters... three of four filters are gone...

> Are they gone for good?

> Regards,
> Martin


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Re: beta/17

[Martin Sebald]

Hi Maxim,

I'm missing most of my filters... three of four filters are gone...

Are they gone for good?

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Re: beta/17

[George M. Menegakis]

Hello Maxim,

Sunday, August 19, 2007, 10:26:14 PM, you wrote:

> [-] (#0006426) Bullets in Password fields are changed to asterisks

fixed

> [-] (#0006406) Progress bar in Connection Center persist from last mail
> fetch, it is displayed even no message was received 

fixed

> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to 
> another folder

fixed

> [-] (#0006421) OpenPGP icon not refreshed correctly 

fixed

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Re: beta/17

[Hendrik Oesterlin]

"Maxim Masiutin" wrote on 20/08/2007 at 06:26:14 +1100 
subject "beta/17" :

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

> [-] (#0006421) OpenPGP icon not refreshed correctly

Confirmed as fixed :-)


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Re: beta/17

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| Q&A  [1] | 2007-08-19 |
·---··
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2007-08-19 · 21:26 h (CET)]

Hello, Maxim!

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

> [-] (#0006406) Progress bar in Connection Center persist from last
> mail fetch, it is displayed even no message was received
> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched
> to another folder

Bugs seem to be fixed! :-)

Cheers!
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Re: beta/17

[David Prodinger]

hello all,

up and running smoothly.

> [-] (#0006426) Bullets in Password fields are changed to asterisks

not under vista. see attached screenshot. but it seems consistent
with vista look and feel.

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Re: beta/17

[Richard Newman]

Hello Maxim,

Sunday, August 19, 2007, 3:26:14 PM, you wrote:
MM> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to 
another folder
Yipee. Confirmed fixed!
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Re[2]: beta/17

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Zygmunt,

Sunday, August 19, 2007, 23:01:35, you wrote:

>>Asterisks still present in password field (in Windows 2K).
I guess that black circles should only appear under Windows XP or later, please 
see remarks at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms672099.aspx

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Re: beta/17

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Maxim Masiutin,

Sunday, August 19, 2007 
you let us know -possibly edited- :


> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to 
> another folder
Was fixed :)

> BTW the site www.ritlabs.com may be currently down, if you get
> "connection refused" error, please try again within a few hours.
My Opera downloaded it as it should be.

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Re: beta/17

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:26:14 +0300GMT (19.08.2007, 21:26 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

MM> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to 
another folder

Confirm fixed. At last! :))

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Re: beta/17

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, at 22:26:14 [GMT +0300] (which was 21:26 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

Up and running

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Re: beta/17

[Gleason Pace]

Maxim,

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

> [-] (#0006426) Bullets in Password fields are changed to asterisks 
> [-] fixed tray restore from minimized run
> [-] (#0006406) Progress bar in Connection Center persist from last
> mail fetch, it is displayed even no message was received 
> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to 
> another folder
> [-] (#0006421) OpenPGP icon not refreshed correctly 

> BTW the site www.ritlabs.com may be currently down, if you get
> "connection refused" error, please try again within a few hours.


Running well here.  Opera was not able to download the file, but IE
got it.




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beta/17

[Maxim Masiutin]

http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

[-] (#0006426) Bullets in Password fields are changed to asterisks 
[-] fixed tray restore from minimized run
[-] (#0006406) Progress bar in Connection Center persist from last mail fetch, 
it is displayed even no message was received 
[-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to another 
folder 
[-] (#0006421) OpenPGP icon not refreshed correctly 

BTW the site www.ritlabs.com may be currently down, if you get "connection 
refused" error, please try again within a few hours.



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Re[2]: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)

[Rudy Willis]

Hello Marck,

Similar happens to me.  The Bat! shows 3 new messages in the inbox but
when I click on the inbox, the message count jumps to 8 and there are
actually 8 new ones.  (of course numbers are examples and not actual
number of messages).  This happens a lot, but can't pin down any
particular thing that causes it.  I do not start TB minimized, so that
is not the problem.

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I live) you wrote:


BG>>   Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized?


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Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)

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On 21 December 2001 at 10:47:11 [GMT-0600] (which was 16:47 where I
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PG>> 2. Every now and then TB doesn't show new mail in Inbox. I need
PG>> to click on the folder to make Inbox show it.

BG>   Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized?

Possibly the case. I start TB minimised from system Startup and I
sometimes see this problem.

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Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)

[jsvrp.gw]

Hello Peter,

20 Dec 2001, 10:45:29, you wrote:

PG> 1. TB cannot not start in minimized mode now with Minimize to system
PG> tray option. The icon appears in the tray but TB doesn't work. E.g. it
PG> doesn't show unread mail and it doesn't start Connection Center. I
PG> need to click tray icon to make it work.

This one is annoying indeed. Actually this is I think the same bug as
I applied on December 1 (while using Beta 14).
The bug is still there (in beta 18).
Again my bug-description (to check if this is
the same bug we're talking about):

  The bug description:

Miscellaneous problems (properly related) with starting The Bat
directly in minimised mode.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:

With this new beta the following happens (my last beta was 10):

- When I startup Windows I always start the Bat automatically (via
programs/startup). I always start it minimised. My settings are set to
only display systemtray icon (so not on the taskbar).
- I have a shortcut to check all mail (ctrl+up-arrowkey). When i use
this shortcut (after the Bat has loaded and sits in the systemtray)
nothing happens. The Bat does not respond (shows no connection
centre).
- When i click on the Bat icon in the system tray, the Bat comes and
starts to load the mailfolders (counting the mails in it like it
always does). Before this beta the mailfolders where counted and
loaded while minimised, so bringing up the Bat showed the bat ready for
use. When clicking on the Bat systemtray icon, the Bat also does not
come up maximised like it was before. Closing the Bat while maximised
and reproducing above steps still shows the Bat still *not* maximised.
- When using my check-all-mail shortcut now, after the Bat has come up
and has made itself ready for use, the connections centre comes up,
but the Bat mainwindow shows itself also in the taskbar (the Bat is minimised),
so now I have two items in the taskbar related to the Bat (CC and the
Bat mainwindow). When finishing the
mailcheck, minimising The Bat shows it again in the systemtray (like
it should be). While checking mail now for the second time everything
looks ok.




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Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)

[Boris Golberg]

Hello,

20 Dec 2001, 3:45:29 AM, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

PG> 2. Every now and then TB doesn't show new mail in Inbox. I need to
PG> click on the folder to make Inbox show it.

  Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized?

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Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/17

[Boris Golberg]

Hello,

19 Dec 2001, 3:02:46 PM, Marek Mikus wrote:

MM> OK, here are bugs, which must be fixed in final release:
MM> ...
MM> 2) Periodical mailbox checking doesn't work - _many_ of users told me and
MM> to TBBETA about this problem - many of them hav Win NT or Win 2000, but
MM> some users told me this bug for "Windows 98 4.10 Build  A" OS version
MM> too. (bug 060 in bugtraq)

  I  am  *not* saying people doesn't have these problems, but I have NT 4.5
at  office  and  98 4.10. A at home, 5 accounts have been checked every
5-30 minutes and it works.

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Re: 1.54 Beta/17

[Dwight A Corrin]

On 19 Dec 2001, 9:49:13 PM, Thomas F wrote:

ST>>   We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please
ST>>   do not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs
ST>>   in the release version

> Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor
> folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but
> has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal
> marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can
> with no good conscience recommend a buggy program.

I guess I can't even imagine what is about to happen. Are we talking
about releasing a version 1.54? If this is true it's crazy. 1.54 is
not yet ready for prime time!

Are you talking about releasing this as 2.0? If that is true, TheBat!
is about to self destruct.

The 1.54 Beta has great promise. I see lots of good things starting to
fall into place. BUT it still has too many incomplete additions and
rough edges. Common folders are going to be good, but right now they
are not there yet. The same is true of lots of things happening here.

People who don't like betas until they are pretty solid would do well
to move to 1.54 by now. People who resist all betas will be very
unhappy with 1.54, because it will be clear that it is really just a
beta not a perfected thing.

Don't do it. Please.


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Re: 1.54 Beta/17

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On 19 Dec 2001, 9:56:56 PM, Dimitry Andric wrote:

> Do other people with the "pause" problem have CPU-consuming tasks
> running in the background?

that is at least when I notice it


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Re[3]: 1.54 Beta/17

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On 2001-12-19 at 22:24:11 Jody Watts wrote:

JW> The *** MOST ANNOYING *** problem (to me) is the "pause" or "system
JW> hang" after checking mail. It last about 3 seconds, but it has been
JW> around since at least Beta 13 or 14.

I almost never have this problem (using Win2k SP2). The only time I
see it, is if I have a (low priority) task in the background which
takes up almost all CPU time, such as compressing a DivX, and the mail
server is responding very slowly at the same time. It seems as if The
Bat is then starved for CPU, and responds quite badly to events (but
it doesn't hang up totally, however).

I'm not sure how The Bat processes WinSock events, but if it is via
the (old-fashioned) system of processing windows messages in the main
WindowProc, then this could be the problem. However, switching to a
fully asynchronous WinSock event model is not an easy task... Not to
mention incompatible with older versions of Windows.

Do other people with the "pause" problem have CPU-consuming tasks
running in the background?

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Re: 1.54 Beta/17

[Thomas F]

Hello Stefan,

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:16:47 +0200GMT (20/12/2001, 01:16 +0800GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST>   Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for folders plus
ST>   a couple of issues is solved...

This is your changelog?

ST>   We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please do
ST>   not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs in the
ST>   release version

Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor
folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but
has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal
marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can
with no good conscience recommend a buggy program. It is against all I
stand for (which includes quality in software products).

ST> - I have a strong suspicion we will be making
ST>   post-releases soon :-)  I am sorry about such a mess, but there were
ST>   some difficulties in the past several months making it tough to
ST>   develop the program intensively. Most of them were connected with
ST>   health issues, but I hope the life will get better in the next year
ST>   :-)

I wish you all good health. If the release of a new version is delayed
because of poor health, everybody will understand this, and I will be
the first one to defend you, should anybody critisise the delay. If a
buggy version is released just to keep a deadline, you will lose
customer confidence. Your competitors are not sleeping either, and
they will have a field day. Don't do that.

ST>   Thank you for your help and understanding!

Don't take this the wrong way, but my help in this case is in warning
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Re: 1.54 Beta/17

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello David.

At 6:30 PM on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject '1.54 Beta/17':

Stefan>>> Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for
Stefan>>> folders [...]

JR>>   How do I get to this option?

David> I think: 'Folder | Check for viruses'. But it's blanked on my system
David> because the plugin isn't working.

  A, yes. That's why I missed it. Thanks.

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Re: 1.54 Beta/17

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JW> PS. Still hope that Christmas Edition won't be totally fu@#$% up...


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1.54 Beta/17

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hi All,

  New Beta is available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html

  The direct download URL is
  http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b17.rar
  
  Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for folders plus
  a couple of issues is solved...


  We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please do
  not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs in the
  release version - I have a strong suspicion we will be making
  post-releases soon :-)  I am sorry about such a mess, but there were
  some difficulties in the past several months making it tough to
  develop the program intensively. Most of them were connected with
  health issues, but I hope the life will get better in the next year
  :-)

  Please report "hot bugs" in reply to this message and hopefully
  they'll get fixed in the release. By "hot" I mean urgent and major
  ones.

  Thank you for your help and understanding!


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[1.42 beta/17] message list colors bug

[Jast]

Morning Mario,

> Right, but I think I found a little bug. I defined 3 new color groups
> so I have four groups called default-c1-c2-c3. Using message filter
> actions makes no problems. But if I set a mail manually to c2 the
> color (read and unread) does not changed.
> 
> Can anyone confirm this?

 I noticed a bug with this too, so I further investigated it's behaviour.

 Result: The handling of the underlying data file (colors.ini in mail
 subdir) is very sloppy.

 - Color display always uses the index value in the colors.ini index
 instead of the unique handle. When this index value points to a wrong
 handle, wrong colors are displayed.

 - groups deleted in color group editor aren't deleted from the file. Nor
 is their index entry. Instead the index just sets a variable "count" lower
 and changes the appropriate entries.

 This needs to be changed obviously. It seems that the handling of the
 other ini files is similarly sloppy BTW, even if it doesn't result in such
 noticable bugs.

 Side note about color group handles: Is there a reason the user has to
 care about this? Unless one wanted to introduce a feature that makes it
 possible to assign a color group to a message per keyboard by entering its
 handle...

 Otherwise, I very much appreciate this exciting new feature! ;-)

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Re: 1.42 Beta/17 is now available

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Stefan,

On 14 April 2000 at 00:00:23 GMT +0300 (which was 22:00 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "1.42 Beta/17 is now available":

>   [+] Message colour groups added

Excellent addition

>   [+] New sorting office actions - Change priority, Set colour group

:-( This works but the ticker message list doesn't show the colours.

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Re[3]: 1.42 beta 17 available

[Aljoscha Rittner]

Hello Stefan,

Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:43:15 PM, your (Stefan Tanurkov) Message was:

> Hi Alexander,

AVK>> I don't like how it's implemented;-( I select a message in folder, tick "memo 
AVK>> autoview". The memo editor pops up. I fill in the memo, click "Save", select 
AVK>> another message in the list => the memo editor just disappears.

> You can make the window to be always on the top - use the local pop-up
> menu and see the option...

[...]

cool, very cool :-)
I wish me a second little shortcut to appear the memo: double
click on the memo column in the specific row. Thanx.


regards,
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Re[2]: Specifying deletion date for specific messages (WAS: Re[2]: 1.42 beta 17 available)

[Chuck Mattsen]

On Friday, April 14, 2000 at 10:25 PM or thereabouts, Thomas Fernandez
wrote the following about Specifying deletion date for specific
messages (WAS: Re[2]: 1.42 beta 17 available):

CM>> With the new memo field, would it not be possible, provided one
CM>> followed a consistent system, to specify a date in the memo field
CM>> on which you wished TB! to delete the message from the message
CM>> base? (As opposed to the general deletion capabilities in place.)
CM>> In other words, I could put, say, 060100 in the message field,
CM>> meaning that that should be the deletion date.

Thomas> That's technically possible, but what is the purpose? Aren't
Thomas> the functions we have (delete messages after xx days)
Thomas> sufficient? Just curious.

Not for my purposes, but I may be alone in that.  The "delete after XX
days" would be sufficient for me if, when I park a message in my inbox
and later move it to a sub-folder, it *retained* its parked (i.e.,
undeletable) status ... maybe that's changed recently, but last I
looked it still removed it when moving the message.

For me, if I get a message that says, say, "Respond by June 1, 2000"
or "Offer valid through May 31, 2000" I'd like to be able to assign
that specific message an expiration date.  Some of my folders have the
mass deletion occur according to the current "after xx days" plan, and
some are more permanent, but I'd like to have some messages go away
after a specific date ... it's not a big thing, but it would be
helpful.

Thomas> The current date should be communicated from your Windows. The
Thomas> action could be performed like the other "delete" actions: "on
Thomas> exit", or by hitting "purge&compress".

I'll have to experiment ... like I said, I'm not up on a lot of the
more advanced filtering ... it would be great if I were, considering
the volume of mail I receive, but I'm currently in the Catch-22
position of not having time to set up the rules (or experiment with
them, actually) to help me deal more efficiently with the time I *do*
have.  :-)

Thanks.



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Re: Specifying deletion date for specific messages (WAS: Re[2]: 1.42 beta 17 available)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chuck,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:22:16 -0500GMT (15/04/2000, 10:22 +0800GMT),
Chuck Mattsen wrote:

CM> With the new memo field, would it not be possible, provided one
CM> followed a consistent system, to specify a date in the memo field on
CM> which you wished TB! to delete the message from the message base?  (As
CM> opposed to the general deletion capabilities in place.)  In other
CM> words, I could put, say, 060100 in the message field, meaning that
CM> that should be the deletion date.

That's technically possible, but what is the purpose? Aren't the
functions we have (delete messages after xx days) sufficient? Just
curious.

CM> That begs the next question, however, of how to have TB! perform the
CM> deletion on a daily basis without manually having to go in and enter
CM> the current date ...

The current date should be communicated from your Windows. The action
could be performed like the other "delete" actions: "on exit", or by
hitting "purge&compress".

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Specifying deletion date for specific messages (WAS: Re[2]: 1.42 beta 17 available)

[Chuck Mattsen]

Hmmm ... a possible way to achieve something that I've been wanting
just occurred to me (though I don't know exactly how to implement it,
and perhaps it would best wait for version 2.x ...)

With the new memo field, would it not be possible, provided one
followed a consistent system, to specify a date in the memo field on
which you wished TB! to delete the message from the message base?  (As
opposed to the general deletion capabilities in place.)  In other
words, I could put, say, 060100 in the message field, meaning that
that should be the deletion date.

That begs the next question, however, of how to have TB! perform the
deletion on a daily basis without manually having to go in and enter
the current date ...

Oh, heck ... I confess I don't know enough of the inner workings of
filtering and strings, etc. ... but do you see what I'm getting at?
And, if so, can you suggest a way to implement?

TIA,

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Re: 1.42 Beta/17 is now available

[Konstantin G.]

Hello Stefan,

Friday, April 14, 2000, 11:00:23 PM, you wrote:

>  [+] View | Memo Auto-view/editor menu option and Memo column in the
>  message list

Is  it  probably  better to place this 2 icons from the memo window on
the  main  TB  toolbar? (Or just to create one more toolbar). Would be
great  to  make  that  memo  window "plugged in" TB and not flowing as
now...

ST>   [+] Message colour groups added

Works  pretty  buggy...  :-( After a minute of playing TheBAT! doesn't
set the correct colors.

ST>   [*] Ctrl+G now changes the flagged state of a message

Works  only  if  the  messages  list  is  focused (not the body of the
message).

ST>   [*] Ctrl+P in message list view should print messages

... same problem

ST>   [-] Icons should be displayed in PGP key manager

??  Don't  see  anything.  Is it probably because I don't have any key
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Re: 1.42 beta 17 available

[Dieter Hummel]

Hello List Members,

on 14.04.2000 at 21:26, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

> _much_  better  IMHO, if the "memo" column had just a little icon that
> would  just  indicate  that the message _has_ a memo associated to it.
> Then,  there could be a menu item in "specials" called "show memo", or
> maybe the memo could be shown as a tooltip, or whatever. Any opinions?
> IMO,  it  would be even better if the "memo" flag was displayed in the
> "flags" column, since this is also a kind of flag;-)

I  second  this  100%.  The  memo column with an abbreviated part of the
memotext  doesn't make real sense. The best is an icon (we should really
consider  saving  space)  and  a menu item in the local menu to open the
associated memo. Nothing more, nothing less :-)

Anyway,   the  enhancements  of  b17  are  great.  Big  hands  for  the
programmers.

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