Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Stuart, On 15-02-2013 14:57, you wrote in mid:126478226.20130215075...@fastmail.fm: Unfortunately I can confirm that IMAP filters are not 100% consistent. I have not filed a bug report because I cannot nail down any pattern. I have reported it on this list several times, but there does not seem to be any confirmation. Well, I am certain I have confirmed a number of times. Some filters (move from inbox to sub folder and assign colour group) work on and off whereas others - a common filter that marks all messages in certain folders (spam folders in all accounts) has never worked. My main issue is that I receive multiple messages that are marked as read and moved to a different folder. If I receive 50 messages, 49 of them will be filtered correctly, but the other message will be moved, but not marked a read. (...) I also have a similar problem with list messages, which get colored as they get filtered into their respective account. They usually get filtered correctly, but not always. No pattern that I can see. This is the first case I am mentioning. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 5.3.4 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras env. 4 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env. os Windows 6.2 Build 9200 /os Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
On 17-02-2013 14:29, I wrote in mid:61917798.20130217142...@fjelsten.dk: Some filters (move from inbox to sub folder and assign colour group) work on and off whereas others - a common filter that marks all messages in certain folders (spam folders in all accounts) has never worked. - correction: Has not worked after the IMAP rewrite. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 5.3.4 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras env. 4 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env. os Windows 6.2 Build 9200 /os Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten typed on: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 14:29:27 GMT +0100 Unfortunately I can confirm that IMAP filters are not 100% consistent. I have not filed a bug report because I cannot nail down any pattern. I have reported it on this list several times, but there does not seem to be any confirmation. PF Well, I am certain I have confirmed a number of times. Sorry, I meant no confirmation from Ritlabs. I don't know if they test large quantities of mail and a large number of IMAP accounts or if they only test with one account. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Dwight, I do almost all my filtering server side, so have no experience to confirm or cast doubt. I have access to maildrop on some of my accounts, so it is an option for me. What do you use on what type of server? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
*VK 1. Where is a cookie error? *,--/ \ | Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt `-8--- I see. Did not pay attention. BTW: ,--/ \ | I am scientist, I *believe* in facts. `-8--- An humble scientist, that's nice for a change! :-) I dont think you care what kind of scientist makes you a better, more effective Li ion battery, right? Or a better drug when you are fat but still want to enjoy all-you-can-eat buffets... Some of us are maybe assholes, but we provide real results. Vili So, Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Vilmos, 2. I replied to Tony's saying that he is reluctant to reinstall filters... If I would have 22 accounts and a very complicated filter system, I would save it every day... (Copying my TB dir and saving the reg. entry) I think you hit the nail on the head. Copy the whole lot. I was using TB! backups until a while ago when I reported that it wouldn't restore. I then got forgetful/complacent as each beta seemed harmless. What branches on the registry do you back up? I can't see much to save in there. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello gandalfmeister, Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes ... I do still have one POP3 account at TheBat.net. Must have missed it in my rush for IMAP. However, I have created a test filter, sent a test message and the filter works as expected (Move to Trash). So it appears to be an IMAP issue. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
I think you hit the nail on the head. Copy the whole lot. I was using TB! backups until a while ago when I reported that it wouldn't restore. I then got forgetful/complacent as each beta seemed harmless. What branches on the registry do you back up? I can't see much to save in there It is HKCU/Software/RIT that you have to export. Vili Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Vilmos, Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:30:01 PM, you wrote: VK ,--/ \ VK | I am scientist, I believe in facts. VK `-8--- VK An humble scientist, that's nice for a change! :-) VK VK I dont think you care what kind of scientist makes you a better, more effective Li ion battery, VK right? Or a better drug when you are fat but still want to enjoy all-you-can-eat buffets... Save for the case of pure luck, poor determination and/or interpretation of facts lead to the wrong conclusions, don't they? -- Best Wishes, Mark Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
No idea what you talk about. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Mark Partous m...@partous.com wrote: Hello Vilmos, Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:30:01 PM, you wrote: VK ,--/ \ VK | I am scientist, I believe in facts. VK `-8--- VK An humble scientist, that's nice for a change! :-) VK VK I dont think you care what kind of scientist makes you a better, more effective Li ion battery, VK right? Or a better drug when you are fat but still want to enjoy all-you-can-eat buffets... Save for the case of pure luck, poor determination and/or interpretation of facts lead to the wrong conclusions, don't they? -- Best Wishes, Mark Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Vili Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
On Saturday, February 16, 2013, 3:56:15 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: I have access to maildrop on some of my accounts, so it is an option for me. What do you use on what type of server? Fastmail. I think cyrus -- Dwight A. Corrin h: 316.303.9385 c: 316.207.6581 dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.8.1 on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
BTW, it's still broken in 5.3.8 and I have to manually re-filter this message into my TBBETA folder. More info: This is definitely something to do with TB! generally. I previously though it was one account not being filtered but I have another account that is also not being automatically filtered. So annoying because now I am missing important message appearing on the Mail Ticker because the filtering is not putting the message into the correct folder. Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Tony, Does any else have the same problem? I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. Vili Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
2/15/2013 7:07 AM Hi Vilmos, Isn't it amazing how the obvious becomes obscure... Take Care, Paul === Your Message Below === Received From: Vilmos Kertesz macas...@gmail.com On: 2/15/2013 6:55 AM Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. VK The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what VK comes with it. VK Vili VK VK Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: VK http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Vilmos, The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. If you look at my signature, you'll see that it is the released version. Gandalfmeister's original message that started this thread was also a release version. Do you think that the beta has performed permanent damage to the message base? People still to need to test beta versions and report problems as they see them with a reasonable expectation that reported problems will be fixed. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello MAU, I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. All of my accounts are IMAP. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Tony, I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. All of my accounts are IMAP. OK, that makes a difference. But there are other list members using IMAP and they don't seem to have the same problem. Ay least they have not confirmed it on the list. Maybe there is something 'peculiar' to your system, your IMAP configuration (I know nothing about IMAP) or your set of filters. I don't know, I'm not saying that it may not be a TB problem, but it seems strange that no other IMAP users complain about a similar one. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. If you look at my signature, you'll see that it is the released version. Gandalfmeister's original message that started this thread was also a release version. I checked your signature before I sent that mail. That says 5.3.8. Released version on TB website is 5.3.6. Do you think that the beta has performed permanent damage to the message base? People still to need to test beta versions and report problems as they see them with a reasonable expectation that reported problems will be fixed All I am saying is that testing beta (but honestly guys, even the released TB) versions requires extra caution... You have to backup, backup and backup TB. If your mails/mailer are important. If you would have done that, you would just go back to your backup file. Vili Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello MAU, Friday, February 15, 2013, 7:43:29 AM, you wrote: I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. All of my accounts are IMAP. OK, that makes a difference. But there are other list members using IMAP and they don't seem to have the same problem. Ay least they have not confirmed it on the list. Maybe there is something 'peculiar' to your system, your IMAP configuration (I know nothing about IMAP) or your set of filters. I don't know, I'm not saying that it may not be a TB problem, but it seems strange that no other IMAP users complain about a similar one. Unfortunately I can confirm that IMAP filters are not 100% consistent. I have not filed a bug report because I cannot nail down any pattern. I have reported it on this list several times, but there does not seem to be any confirmation. It may be that as Tony says he has 25 IMAP accounts with lots of filters that this is the problem. The Bat does not seem to be able to handle quantity of messages and correctly filter every one. My main issue is that I receive multiple messages that are marked as read and moved to a different folder. If I receive 50 messages, 49 of them will be filtered correctly, but the other message will be moved, but not marked a read. I also have a similar problem with list messages, which get colored as they get filtered into their respective account. They usually get filtered correctly, but not always. No pattern that I can see. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Vilmos, All I am saying is that testing beta (but honestly guys, even the released TB) versions requires extra caution... You have to backup, backup and backup TB. If your mails/mailer are important. If you would have done that, you would just go back to your backup file. Vili Now that's true. Unfortunately, restores have not been working for me for a while :-( -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. The issue isn't HANDLING it - he is reporting an issue -- Rick Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt v5.3.8.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Nicely cut quote. Please read again what I replied to. You did not read that I guess. On Feb 15, 2013 1:43 PM, Rick rg...@grunwalds.com wrote: The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. The issue isn't HANDLING it - he is reporting an issue -- Rick Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt v5.3.8.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Nicely cut quote. Please read again what I replied to. You did not read that I guess. I read it. Thanks for pointing out the cookie error. And I don't mind you top posting :))) -- Rick Why do you think Wall Street is pushing Republicans to privatize Medicare, Social Security, etc? It's not that they think they can run it better, they just want to be able to take their cut. v5.3.8.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Ok, then I continue top posting. I sent the previous mail from my phone, that is why the top posting happened. But it seems it is ok anyways. Rick: I am scientist, I believe in facts. Here is my original answer between ***-s: *** Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. 1. Where is a cookie error? 2. I replied to Tony's saying that he is reluctant to reinstall filters... If I would have 22 accounts and a very complicated filter system, I would save it every day... (Copying my TB dir and saving the reg. entry) Vili On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Rick rg...@grunwalds.com wrote: Nicely cut quote. Please read again what I replied to. You did not read that I guess. I read it. Thanks for pointing out the cookie error. And I don't mind you top posting :))) -- Rick Why do you think Wall Street is pushing Republicans to privatize Medicare, Social Security, etc? It's not that they think they can run it better, they just want to be able to take their cut. v5.3.8.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Vili Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
On Friday, February 15, 2013, 4:51:52 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. I do almost all my filtering server side, so have no experience to confirm or cast doubt. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Vilmos, Friday, February 15, 2013, 10:39:07 PM, you wrote: VK 1. Where is a cookie error? ,--/ \ | Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt `-8--- BTW: ,--/ \ | I am scientist, I believe in facts. `-8--- An humble scientist, that's nice for a change! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Ok, then I continue top posting. I sent the previous mail from my phone, that is why the top posting happened. But it seems it is ok anyways. I was playing a bit - I thought you were referring to the broken cookie macro which I fixed. ( you had said something about a nice cut quote and of course there wasn't one. -- Rick Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini v5.3.8.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Rick, I use anti spam sniper plugin and was having a lot of false positives. I cleared the training database which will of course create a few more as it relearns, but the problem is solved It's not the detection of spam because that is done on the server and SPAM headers are set. It's just that TB! won't automatically filter the spam into the correct folder. I have to do it manually. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
It's not the detection of spam because that is done on the server and SPAM headers are set. It's just that TB! won't automatically filter the spam into the correct folder. I have to do it manually. BTW, it's still broken in 5.3.8 and I have to manually re-filter this message into my TBBETA folder. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
gandalfmeister, Saturday, December 22, 2012, 10:44:35 AM, you wrote: g None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into g my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox g - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? I can confirm that several (but not all) of my filters have stopped working as well. However, selecting those messages for manual refiltering doesn't work either. FWIW, sometimes (but not always), restarting TB! or rebooting the entire computer gets the filters working again. -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.3.6.2 (BETA) | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
I hope RIT can fix this soon as I can now see how much SPAM I'm getting because I have to filter it manually. It didn't seem quite so bad when TB! was doing it for me. Bugtrack created: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=152 -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
I hope RIT can fix this soon as I can now see how much SPAM I'm getting because I have to filter it manually. It didn't seem quite so bad when TB! was doing it for me. I use anti spam sniper plugin and was having a lot of false positives. I cleared the training database which will of course create a few more as it relearns, but the problem is solved -- Rick Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt v5.3.6.2 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello gandalfmeister, None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Confirmed. My filtering has been working very well until the last few days. Now, no messages. are filtered and I have to do them all manually. I may have a clue: I have just set the account to a plain IMAP connection (without SSL) and perhaps Kaspersky plugin is causing them not to be filtered. I have removed the Kaspersky plugin and will update if anything changes. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello gandalfmeister, None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Confirmed. My filtering has been working very well until the last few days. Now, no messages. are filtered and I have to do them all manually. I may have a clue: I have just set the account to a plain IMAP connection (without SSL) and perhaps Kaspersky plugin is causing them not to be filtered. I have removed the Kaspersky plugin and will update if anything changes. Update: still broken. I have reverted back to SSL (so Kaspersky can't see inside) but incoming filtering is still broken. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Update: still broken. I have reverted back to SSL (so Kaspersky can't see inside) but incoming filtering is still broken. P.S. Kasperksy AV AS plugins are also completely removed. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Update: still broken. I have reverted back to SSL (so Kaspersky can't see inside) but incoming filtering is still broken. P.S. Kasperksy AV AS plugins are also completely removed. I hope RIT can fix this soon as I can now see how much SPAM I'm getting because I have to filter it manually. It didn't seem quite so bad when TB! was doing it for me. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Roelof,
Sunday, December 23, 2012, 4:04:57 PM, you wrote:
You might try clearing your imap cache:
Nope it didn't make a difference - still randomly leaving messages in the inbox
- and not just for tbbeta stuff either. Refiltered the inbox - and 15 messages
were moved??
Filter for TBB is:-
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [E32C6ECE.01CDB22A.31B59053.399721A4]
Name: Analyze\20move\20tbb...@thebat.dutaint.com
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cgandalfmeister\5CAnalyze\5CTBBETA
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
Best regards,
gandalfmeistermailto:gandalfmeis...@gmail.com
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Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Dwight, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:15:11 -0600GMT (23-12-2012, 17:15 , where I live), you wrote: Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. DAC Showing my ignorance, will my flagged messages still be flagged (I'm DAC thinking yes, that they get flagged on the server), and will my parked DAC messages still be parked? Yes, they will still be flagged. I didn't know either, as I don't flag many messages, so I tried it. And the results were positive. Now that I'm typing this, I realise that I diodn't check the parking stuff. :-( -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #2: You're NOT God but don't tell anyone. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Dwight, On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:18:38 +0100GMT (26-12-2012, 0:18 , where I live), I wrote: RO Yes, they will still be flagged. RO I didn't know either, as I don't flag many messages, so I tried it. RO And the results were positive. RO Now that I'm typing this, I realise that I diodn't check the parking RO stuff. :-( Tried it with parked messages too. GMail keeps both flagged and parked statuses. Can't vouch for other servers. -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator has no friends or enemies, except other moderators. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello Roelof, Saturday, December 22, 2012, 9:00:29 PM, you wrote: They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes several minutes to filter incoming mail..) could be that if I've read it in the inbox during the wait - the incoming flag gets reset and it fails to filter?? - just guessing, -- Best regards, gandalfmeistermailto:gandalfmeis...@gmail.com Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Graham, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:18:51 +GMT (23-12-2012, 10:18 , where I live), you wrote: They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? GF IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes GF several minutes to filter incoming mail..) could be that if I've GF read it in the inbox during the wait - the incoming flag gets GF reset and it fails to filter?? - just guessing, You might try clearing your imap cache: Close TB Open your mail directory with the explorrer, locate the directory matching with your imap account, in that directory you'll find a directory called imap. Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator(n): Subspicies of God, native to Fidonet http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
On Sunday, December 23, 2012, 10:04:57 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. Showing my ignorance, will my flagged messages still be flagged (I'm thinking yes, that they get flagged on the server), and will my parked messages still be parked? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Incoming message filtering stopped working??
None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? --- Thx Graham Message reply created with The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1- Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hello gandalfmeister, None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Working fine here. Your message and a few others were moved correctly -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? --- Thx Graham Message reply created with The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1- WFM. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows XP Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Graham, On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 15:44:35 +GMT (22-12-2012, 16:44 , where I live), you wrote: GF None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated GF folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Cannot confirm. They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? [moderator on] GF --- BTW Your signature delimiter isn't working, it should be dashdashspaceenter and not three dashes. BTW2 You're using HTML while that isn't necessary, please don't do that anymore [moderator off] -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator (n): Subspecies of God, specific to Fidonet. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Good day beta list members, Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 2:02:19 PM, you wrote: Hi Thomas, GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP? POP3. Never used IMAP, nor do I have any plans to do that. After creating the filters new, they're working... knocking on wood... but the blue - black coloring didn't change. Well, if that's all, I don't care. :-) I have had a crash and my BAT backup on this PC doesn't contain some recently created filters. I have a current backup on another PC, which file holds the filters, and can I just copy it over (V4.2.36.4)? Thanks -- Best regards, Chrismailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv 4.2.36.4 Windows XP 5 Current beta is 5.0.26.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hello Gunivortus, On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:02:19 +0100 GMT (22/Nov/11, 21:02 PM +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP? GG POP3. Never used IMAP, nor do I have any plans to do that. GG After creating the filters new, they're working... knocking on wood... but the GG blue - black coloring didn't change. Well, if that's all, I don't care. :-) Interesting -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.26.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hello Chris, On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:37:44 + GMT (24/Nov/11, 18:37 PM +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: CW I have had a crash and my BAT backup on this PC doesn't contain some recently CW created filters. I have a current backup on another PC, which file CW holds the filters, and can I just copy it over (V4.2.36.4)? Thanks I am sure someone on TBUDL will help you. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.26.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hello Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:48:33 +0100 GMT (21/Nov/11, 14:48 PM +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hi Thomas, GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP? POP3. Never used IMAP, nor do I have any plans to do that. After creating the filters new, they're working... knocking on wood... but the blue - black coloring didn't change. Well, if that's all, I don't care. :-) -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.0.20 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:48:33 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 8:48 , where I live), you wrote: GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. It's possible that they're caught by other filters. Generally it's best to make filters as specific as possible. GG The filters look like: GG header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) GG As actions: GG move to the folder (name of folder) So I'd suggest to create a filter that starts looking a single header, like reply-to or list-id (TB doesn't know these headers per default, but it's easy to define them in the header section and then you can use them in the sorting office) and place them on the top of your sorting office. When that doesn't help there's a problem going on. -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't argue with a moderator, woman or cat. You'll lose. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpXwCSLFCwt7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hi Roelof, GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. It's possible that they're caught by other filters. Generally it's best to make filters as specific as possible. Those messages simply stay in the Inbox. GG The filters look like: GG header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) GG As actions: GG move to the folder (name of folder) So I'd suggest to create a filter that starts looking a single header, like reply-to or list-id (TB doesn't know these headers per default, but it's easy to define them in the header section and then you can use them in the sorting office) and place them on the top of your sorting office. The header is AFAIK the whole of the RFC-822 header and each of them a header field. But yes, I've also tried quite some header fields, like: header field - reply-to - contains - (emailaddress of mailing list) Doesn't work. When that doesn't help there's a problem going on. Yes, it is sigh. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.0.20 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:35:44 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 11:35 , where I live), you wrote: When that doesn't help there's a problem going on. GG Yes, it is sigh. Are the problem messages received by the account that you're using to filter them or are they moved from one account to another and deo you want to filter them in the new account? Do they get filtered when you re-filter manually? How many filters have you got? Is it an option to re-create the sorting office for this account? -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator's work is never done http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpfyScEyXIIg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hi Roelof, Are the problem messages received by the account that you're using to filter them or are they moved from one account to another and deo you want to filter them in the new account? No, they're staying in the same account, they just should be moved from the inbox to a folder under that Inbox. Do they get filtered when you re-filter manually? No. How many filters have you got? Is it an option to re-create the sorting office for this account? About 20 in one account, other accounts have fewer. There's one strange thing I've noticed.. In the sorting office window, all my older filters (since v4 and earlier) are shown bluecolored, all new ones are black. Does that say something? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.0.20 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:14:17 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 12:14 , where I live), you wrote: GG In the sorting office window, all my older filters (since v4 and earlier) are GG shown bluecolored, all new ones are black. GG Does that say something? Yes. It says they're not active. You can change that in the options tab of the fiter. -- Groetjes, Roelof At least the moderator replies to my messages! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpIC17Vd4laM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hi Roelof, GG In the sorting office window, all my older filters (since v4 and earlier) are GG shown bluecolored, all new ones are black. GG Does that say something? Yes. It says they're not active. You can change that in the options tab of the fiter. ...grin If it was just that easy. All those blackcolored filters are checked as active and under 'options' this is confirmed. So, I still don't know. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.0.20 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:43:11 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 12:43 , where I live), you wrote: GG All those blackcolored filters are checked as active and under 'options' this is GG confirmed. My black filters are inactive. So let's try to set them to inactive, close TB, start TB again and set them to active. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found. Enter forbidden topics? [y] [n] http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpfi83bNJ5rn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hi Roelof, GG All those blackcolored filters are checked as active and under 'options' this is GG confirmed. My black filters are inactive. So let's try to set them to inactive, close TB, start TB again and set them to active. I've deleted four of those filters, closed and restarted TB and created those filters again with exactly the same arguments. Although they're still blackcolored and active, these four do work now at least a couple of new arrived mails were filtered correctly in those folders. Don't ask my why. :-) -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.0.20 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hello Gunivortus, Monday, November 21, 2011, 5:45:57 PM, you wrote: I've deleted four of those filters, closed and restarted TB and created those filters again with exactly the same arguments. Although they're still blackcolored and active, these four do work now at least a couple of new arrived mails were filtered correctly in those folders. I cannot really help with your problem, this is just a BTW: Filters show up blue-colored when the option Continue processing with other filters is on, otherwise the filter shows black. -- Best regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 6 POP3 accounts, no IMAP, no OTFE Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:14:17 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 12:14 , where I live), you wrote: I went back a few messages. How many filters have you got? Is it an option to re-create the sorting office for this account? GG About 20 in one account, other accounts have fewer. Every account has its own file with filters. Pick an account that's giving you problems. Open the sorting office. Copy and paste your filters to a text editor (smartbat will do fine) You have copy to copy one filter at a time When you've pasted all of your filters to the editor Close TB In the account that you've copied and pasted, you rename the account.srb file to account.srb.old, this means that the account.srb file (that contains the filters) won't be seen. Start TB Copy and paste all filters back to the sorting office that you just emptied, now you should be able to copy and paste them all at once If this works then you had some corruption in the .srb file. If it doesn't work, you can close TB and swap the old .srb file back in place. -- Groetjes, Roelof Off with %ToFName%-'s head! shouted the Moderator http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpq4Id7pjrZi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hi Gunivortus, Monday, November 21, 2011, 8:48:33 AM, you wrote: The filters look like: header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) As actions: move to the folder (name of folder) Any suggestion how I can get them working? Just an idea: Try to use a slightly different condition. So instead of contains (all) try to use contains any of. Maybe it helps to us a trunkated part of the emailaddress you are filtering for. Maybe it will also help not to filter for header, but more specifically for sender or for recipient. Again, these ideas are more trial and error than advice that's funded on solid knowledge. Yet, in the past this has has proven to be sufficient for my needs :-) BTW I'm on POP only (never needed IMAP) -- Kind regards, Peter Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
message filtering
Hi TBBETA, The sorting office filtering does not work properly; my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the old ones. The filters look like: header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) As actions: move to the folder (name of folder) Any suggestion how I can get them working? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.0.20 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
