Re: More on Outbox

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 8:57:09 AM you wrote:

DE>>  The last part has happened to me.

TF> Ditto.

Luckily not yet to me.

DE>>  For all the above reasons I have asked for a Draft folder. ie a folder that
DE>>  contains messages that are nor ready to send. Every other eMail client that
DE>>  I have used has always had one and it is the one thing that I miss.

TF> A long-standing item in the wish list.

and again I could only second this ...
OK .. and now the chorus:
"We want our Draft folder, we want our Draft folder ..." *ggg*
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Re: Address Book

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Raj,

On Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 7:55:56 AM you wrote:

R> 1. I find there are three colour codes - Blue, Green & Red. What do they indicate ?

Blue:   your personal address book(s)
Green:  LDAP-based address book(s), can be one defined/created by yourself
Red:Certificate Authority address books, store information(s) and
certificates of CAs for S/MIME En/De-Coding

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Re: Macros/templates?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Januk,

On Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 3:08:32 AM you wrote:

[a lot of description]

and I've nothing to add ... that's exactly what I meant with writing "folder
templates are dangerous".

Peter: I thought the same you do/did: "Why the hack they should be dangerous?
They're one reason for me using TB!, being able to use templates on nearly
every level!" But my experiences were exactly as described: the lazier you are
(and I _AM_ *g*) the faster you die :-(
So it's a bit more to do and a little more time top spend to learn _and_
configure AB-Templates but it's worth every minute you spent as it saves a lot
of effort after and prevents you from excusing mail like 'Sorry I sent this to
the list, it was intended to be sent only per private mail' *ggg*
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Re: More on Outbox

[Thomas F]

Hi David,

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:37:24  +0100GMT (06/09/2001, 14:37 +0800GMT),
David Elliott wrote:

DE> The last part has happened to me.

Ditto.

DE> For all the above reasons I have asked for a Draft folder. ie a folder that
DE> contains messages that are nor ready to send. Every other eMail client that
DE> I have used has always had one and it is the one thing that I miss.

A long-standing item in the wish list.

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Re: More on Outbox

[David Elliott]

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Salutation Andrew

On 05 September 2001 at 22:45:46 +0100 (which was 22:45 where I live) Andrew
Hodgson wrote

AH> I have situations when I hav a sudden inspiration, start a message,  and
AH> then my inspiration fails me, having to back out of writing the
AH> message, but it goes into outbox, and like others on the list I can't
AH> get rid of it without sending it, then deleting it out of the queue of
AH> the MTA (this could also be done by sending it to yourself)?

AH> This seems very strange, but right mouse on message and delete  doesn't
AH> work, del doesn't work, can think of any other way to get  rid of
AH> message!

As so well put by Mrten.



That is because the message is 'parked'. You can drag the message from the
outbox  to 'trash' which is the safest option (and click a dialog box away),
or you might click on the hourglass-like icon to 'unpark' the message and
then immediately press 'delete'.

I've heard people tell tales that between the 'unpark' and the 'delete'
action the message got sent, so go with the first option!



The last part has happened to me.

For all the above reasons I have asked for a Draft folder. ie a folder that
contains messages that are nor ready to send. Every other eMail client that
I have used has always had one and it is the one thing that I miss.

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Re: The Hijri date/Islamic calendar

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hi All,

On  Thu, 6 Sep 2001 at 11:14:27 GMT +0530 (9/6/2001 12:44 PM GMT +0700
where you think I live) "Raj"=[R]typed the following :

JA>> Not that I'm aware of.  However, I had created a translation template
JA>> that could translate the GMT time into various languages.  If
JA>> you could explain how the Hijri date and Islamic calender work, it
JA>> might be possible to modify that template.

R> http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-islamic.html

Thanks for the link, Raj.
There  is  Indian  Calender  too  which  have equivalence here in Java
Island (we called "Caka" or "shaka" Calender).

R> Each month starts when the lunar crescent is first seen (by a human
R> observer's eye) after a new moon.

R> Although  new  moons  may be calculated quite precisely, the actual
R> visibility  of  the  crescent is much more difficult to predict. It
R> depends  on  factors such as weather, the optical properties of the
R> atmosphere,  and the location of the observer. It is therefore very
R> difficult  to give accurate information in advance about when a new
R> month will start.

Indeed,  but nowadays data from observatories widely use here (we have
one  in  Lembang, Boscha), my calender here having both (International
and  Muslim  Calender),  I  have  other  that  have  3  (Java Calender
include).

R> Furthermore,  some  Muslims depend on a local sighting of the moon,
R> whereas others depend on a sighting by authorities somewhere in the
R> Muslim  world.  Both are valid Islamic practices, but they may lead
R> to different starting days for the months.

This is true for solicited site :-)

There is others that make difference :
- some referring to local sighting of moon in the evening
  This "group" said, new days start in the evening, for example this
  afternoon is Thursday, tonight is Friday.
  My country Indonesia is one that use this term.
- others referring to local sighting of moon in dawn.
  This group said, new days start in the dawn.
  Arab Saudi is one of the example.

Both are valid.
This conditions makes sometimes we have different days for "Ied Days".
Indonesia  said  it  is  on Sunday 16 December 2001, but Saudi said
Saturday 15 December 2001 :-)

R> Different methods for estimating the calendars are used.

R> Some  sources  mention  a  crude  system  in which all odd numbered
R> months  have 30 days and all even numbered months have 29 days with
R> an  extra  day  added  to the last month in 'leap years' (a concept
R> otherwise  unknown in the calendar). Leap years could then be years
R> in  which  the number year mod 30 is one of the following: 2, 5, 7,
R> 10,  13,  16, 18, 21, 24, 26, or 29.

R> (This  is  the  algorithm  used  in the calendar program of the Gnu
R> Emacs editor.)

Wow...I didn't realize it, thanks to the info.

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Re: header

[flash]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:30:10AM +0200, Roelof Otten wrote:
>   I would like to insert a "Sender: " header in some messages, is such
>   possible with a macro?

Sender: header MUST appear in the message if originator of the
message (i.e From: ) contains multiple addresses or single address
in which different from mailbox originator.

If the value of those to headers are identical, then Sender:
header SHOULD NOT appear on the message.

Ref.: RFC2822

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Re[2]: Changing sender's initials in replies

[Raj]

"Januk,

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, at 16:24:13 [GMT -0700] (which was 4:54 AM where I live) you
wrote:

JA> The first method, you change your reply template so that the macro
JA> %OFROMFNAME is replaced with %ABofromFNAME="%OFROMFNAME"

Just a small correction this %ABofromFNAME="%OFROMFNAME" should read as

%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"

At least on my machine :-)

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Re: Address Book

[Raj]

Tbudl,

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, at 11:25:56 [GMT +0530] (which was 11:25 AM where I live) you
wrote:


R> 2. How can I create a New Group at the root level ???

Ignore this found it out my self.
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Address Book

[Raj]

Fellow TB users,

I have two questions on the address book.

1. I find there are three colour codes - Blue, Green & Red. What do they indicate ?

2. How can I create a New Group at the root level ???

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Re[2]: The Hijri date/Islamic calendar

[Raj]

Januk,

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, at 11:39:47 [GMT -0700] (which was 12:09 AM where I live) you
wrote:

JA> Not that I'm aware of.  However, I had created a translation template
JA> that could translate the GMT time into various languages.  If
JA> you could explain how the Hijri date and Islamic calender work, it
JA> might be possible to modify that template.

I am not sure if this would be an easy task. Just got this info from the web.

http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-islamic.html

Giving  in  brief  so  that  you  can read and then if interested click on the links 
given
below.

Each  month starts when the lunar crescent is first seen (by a human observer's eye) 
after
a new moon.

Although  new  moons  may  be  calculated  quite  precisely,  the actual visibility of 
the
crescent  is  much  more  difficult to predict. It depends on factors such as weather, 
the
optical  properties  of  the atmosphere, and the location of the observer. It is 
therefore
very difficult to give accurate information in advance about when a new month will 
start.

Furthermore, some Muslims depend on a local sighting of the moon, whereas others 
depend on
a sighting by authorities somewhere in the Muslim world. Both are valid Islamic 
practices,
but they may lead to different starting days for the months.

So you can't print an Islamic calendar in advance?
Not  a  reliable  one.  However,  calendars  are  printed  for planning purposes, but 
such
calendars  are  based on estimates of the visibility of the lunar crescent, and the 
actual
month may start a day earlier or later than predicted in the printed calendar.

Different methods for estimating the calendars are used.

Some  sources mention a crude system in which all odd numbered months have 30 days and 
all
even  numbered  months  have  29  days  with an extra day added to the last month in 
'leap
years'  (a  concept  otherwise unknown in the calendar). Leap years could then be 
years in
which the number year mod 30 is one of the following: 2, 5, 7, 10, 13, 16, 18, 21, 24, 
26,
or 29. (This is the algorithm used in the calendar program of the Gnu Emacs editor.)

Such  a calendar would give an average month length of 29.53056 days, which is quite 
close
to  the  synodic month of 29.53059 days, so on the average it would be quite accurate, 
but
in any given month it is still just a rough estimate.

Better algorithms for estimating the visibility of the new moon have been devised.

http://www.cob.ohio-state.edu/~muhanna_1/hijri-intro.html

http://www.cs.pitt.edu/~tawfig/convert/

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Re: Message history

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Hi John,

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:39:51 -0400, you wrote these words of wisdom:

...
JS> I have been using TB for a while now. Is there any way to delete
JS> the drop down history list for writing a new message. Mine is now
JS> very long. (When in the message editor and click the down arrow in
JS> the To field.)

Open the drop down list, hit the space bar to bring the list in focus.
You may then use the arrow keys to move through the list, and the
delete key to delete entries.

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Re[3]: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Craig S. Reeder]

Hello Carren,

Wednesday, September 05, 2001, 11:56:31 PM, you wrote:

> I hope that I haven't forgotten anything. I am sure if I have left
> anything out Melissa will fill in the gaps! (Hi Melissa!)

Thank you for this information. I never saw any of this in the user
guide or the pop setup manuals. The info they gave I tried with no
success. I'll give it a try in the morning and get back when I can. If
Melissa has any input, I'll humbly accept that too.

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testing advanced direct remailer

[L.V.M.G.]

Hi all, 

  
 
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Re: Delete messages from outbox

[Raj]

"Syv,

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, at 07:46:12 [GMT -0700] (which was 8:16 PM where I live) you
wrote:

s> I am trying to delete messages from the outbox. These messages do not
s> have a destination. They are from a template, where somebody is
s> sending me these messages from an invalid address:

s> €  @prodigy.net.m

s> I have tried placing an address by hand in these messages, but I still
s> can't.

Deletes here and am using the same version. The only thing I can think of is

Is the message parked ???

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Re[2]: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

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Thursday, September 06, 2001, 3:36:00 PM, Craig wrote:
   


CSR> Anyone familiar with how to configure
CSR> NOD32's pop protection for the Bat? I tried their suggestion, but
I
CSR> guess it eludes me.


Hi Craig,

I am sure that Melissa will be along soon to help you, but I'll have a
go in the meantime! (she helped me set it up not so long ago - setup
eluded me also!)

Go to account properties in TB! for each account.
Under "Transport" enter "localhost" (without the quotes) in the "Mail
Server" box.

Then go to the NOD Pop scanner. Click on the "setup" button.
There you will see a box at the bottom labelled "accounts".
Click on "Setup".
Here is where you add each account individually.
A box will come up to add an account.
In the "Parent Server" box enter your account eg: POP.gmx.co.uk
In the little box on the right enter 110
In the top box "Listen on" you have to enter a port number. It is
suggested that you choose a number over 10500 - say 10501 or whatever
number you like. (I do not totally understand all this port stuff but
it seems any number above 10500 will do!)
Click OK and you should see your account has been added to the
accounts box.


Now, go back to the "account properties" in TB! and under "Mail
Management" in the POP3 box - enter the Port number that you chose for
the account in the POP scanner setup eg: the 10500+ number.

Repeat this for all accounts - selecting a different port number for
each account.

I hope that I haven't forgotten anything. I am sure if I have left
anything out Melissa will fill in the gaps! (Hi Melissa!)



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Re[2]: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Jody Watts]

On  Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:36 PM 
Craig S. Reeder tickled the keyboard keys on the subject of: 
"TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus". 
My response follows:


CSR> Hello Jan,

CSR> Wednesday, September 05, 2001, 9:19:04 AM, you wrote:

JR>>PC-cillin has reported a virus named
JR>>PE_MAGISTR.DAM on my system. Source is TB.
JR>>PC-cillin can't clean or delete it.

CSR> I promised myself I would contact the group tonight when I got home
CSR> about the same message I received after updating my virus signature
CSR> update for Innoculate IT this morning. Immediately I was greeted with a
CSR> similar message stating that "thebat.exe" was infected and could not be
CSR> cleaned. This happened out of the clear blue sky. I deleted
CSR> "thebat.exe", re-installed with the 1.53d archive and got the same
CSR> message again. Removed Innoculate IT, installed evaluation version of
CSR> NOD32, updated it and all was well. Bad virus update sig from Innoculate
CSR> IT? Now the question remains - Anyone familiar with how to configure
CSR> NOD32's pop protection for the Bat? I tried their suggestion, but I
CSR> guess it eludes me.



I am running NAV2002 (8.0) and have the latest virus definition files
(9/5/01 as of the writing of this message). I did a complete system scan, then a scan 
of just TheBat!
directory ... no virus found.


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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Thomas F]

Hi John,

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:50:16 -0400GMT (06/09/2001, 08:50 +0800GMT),
John Seymour wrote:

JS>  http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2810225,00.html

Quote from this very URL:

Prevention
Here are the basic steps for containing the latest worm: 

"Don't open attachments!" One of the best ways to prevent virus
infections is not to open attachments, especially when viruses such as
this polymorphic worm are being actively circulated. Even if the
e-mail is from a known source, be careful. A few viruses take the
mailing lists from an infected computer and send out new messages with
its destructive payload attached. Always scan the attached files first
for viruses. Unless it's a file or an image you are expecting, delete
it.

Get protected. If you don't already have virus protection software on
your machine, you should. If you're a home or individual user, it's as
easy as downloading any of these top-rated programs then following the
installation instructions. If you're on a network, check with your
network administrator first.

Scan your system regularly. If you're just loading anti-virus software
for the first time, it's a good idea to let it scan your entire
system. It's better to start with your PC clean and free of virus
problems. Often the antivirus program can be set to scan each time the
computer is rebooted or on a periodic schedule. Some will scan in the
background while you are connected to the Internet. Make it a regular
habit to scan for viruses.

Update your anti-virus software. Now that you have virus protection
software installed, make sure it's up-to-date. Some antivirus
protection programs have a feature that will automatically link to the
Internet and add new virus detection code whenever the software vendor
discovers a new threat. You can also scan your system for the latest
security updates here.

Unquote.

'Nuff said.

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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Craig S. Reeder]

Hello Jan,

Wednesday, September 05, 2001, 9:19:04 AM, you wrote:

JR>PC-cillin has reported a virus named
JR>PE_MAGISTR.DAM on my system. Source is TB.
JR>PC-cillin can't clean or delete it.

I promised myself I would contact the group tonight when I got home
about the same message I received after updating my virus signature
update for Innoculate IT this morning. Immediately I was greeted with a
similar message stating that "thebat.exe" was infected and could not be
cleaned. This happened out of the clear blue sky. I deleted
"thebat.exe", re-installed with the 1.53d archive and got the same
message again. Removed Innoculate IT, installed evaluation version of
NOD32, updated it and all was well. Bad virus update sig from Innoculate
IT? Now the question remains - Anyone familiar with how to configure
NOD32's pop protection for the Bat? I tried their suggestion, but I
guess it eludes me.


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Craig   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, September 05, 2001  11:24:24 PM


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Re[2]: Virus

[Raj]

Nick,

On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, at 17:20:55 [GMT -0700] (which was 5:50 AM where I live) you
wrote:

>> looks like an error in CAI's virus-signature file ...

NA> Why are you so sure it's in error? Perhaps you really *are* infected. I
NA> would run another Anti-Virus Program... sort of second opinion if you
NA> will. 

For  everybody information : I just ran Mcafee on TB specifically and my entire Hard 
Disk.
Glad to report that no Virus was detected in TB (or my machine)


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test - please ignore

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello tbudl,

Test, ignore please

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Re: The Hijri date/Islamic calendar

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hi All,

On  Wed,  5 Sep 2001 at 11:39:47 GMT -0700 (9/6/2001 1:39 AM GMT +0700
where you think I live) "Januk Aggarwal"=[JA]typed the following :

H>>Are any body have macro for The Hijri date/Islamic calendar ?

JA> Not  that  I'm  aware  of.  However,  I  had created a translation
JA> template that could translate the GMT time into various languages.
JA> If you could explain how the Hijri date and Islamic calender work,
JA> it might be possible to modify that template.

Interesting.
Hijri (hijrah in my language) is Lunar Base Calendar (as opposed Solar
Base  for  Gregrorian  Calendar), it has 12 month too. I don't know if
somewhere  in  the  world  someone  already  have  formula  to convert
Solar-base to Lunar-base Calendar.

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Message history

[John Seymour]

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Hello TBUDL

 I have been using TB for a while now. Is there any way to delete
 the drop down history list for writing a new message. Mine is now
 very long.
 (When in the message editor and click the down arrow in the To
 field.)

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Re: Macros/templates?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Peter,

Historians believe that Wednesday, September 5, 2001 at 16:36 GMT
-0700 was when, Peter Chiou [PC] typed the following:

PC> Why is it dangerous?

When you create a folder level template, it will be used whenever the
focus is on that folder.  The dangerous part is when you use any of
the recipient setting macros in a folder level template.  Take the
following example:

Suppose you want to make sending a message to TBUDL very easy, so you
add %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to the folder level template.  Now,
while you're reading the mail, you find someone to whom you'd like to
contact privately (because it may be inappropriate for the lists.)  But
wait, when you create that new message, the folder level template adds
the TBUDL list.  Of course you didn't want everyone to get your
private message.  It is worse when you click on the Unsubscribe link
or on someone's PGP Key request link.

You may think that none of these are too bad, but there is one much
more embarrassing possibility.  Suppose you have TB open, focused on
this folder.  You are in your web-browser and click on a mailto link.
This message that will be created will also be sent to the TBUDL list.
This could be *very* embarrassing, for you and for the receiving
party.

For lists like TBUDL, you are much better off creating an address book
entry and using a AB template for that entry.  Personally, what I did
was create a general purpose mailing list template.  I then put all my
mailing lists into one group and created a group template (under group
properties.)  This way I can add and remove groups and the templates
are set immediately.  This method is also convenient because I don't
have to worry about which folder or account is in focus when I start
composing my mail to the lists.  The correct template is always
applied.

If it was convenience you're looking for, in your Address Book, make
the list a favorite, and it will appear in the list when you click the
little down arrow next to the new message icon.  Almost as quick as
pressing the new message button itself, but a lot safer.

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Re[3]: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[John Seymour]

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Hello Jan

JR> Turns out that
JR>   Webtrends has an updated engine that destroys
JR>   the virus which is being released on a case by
JR>   case basis.

 This is a hard virus for the antivirus to stay ahead of because
 it is polymorphic (changes signitures). See this report:
 http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2810225,00.html
 I will stop now, getting off topic.

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Re: Virus

[Nick Andriash]

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On Wednesday, September 05 2001 at 03:40 PM PDT, Rob wrote:

> yep, eTrust EZ Antivirus (shareware version of InoculateIT) says the same
> after updating to the latest signature-file.
> 
> s> This has only happened today.
> 
> looks like an error in CAI's virus-signature file ...

Why are you so sure it's in error? Perhaps you really *are* infected. I
would run another Anti-Virus Program... sort of second opinion if you
will. 


- -- 
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Re[2]: Macros/templates?

[Peter Chiou]

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, September 05, 2001, 3:09:02 PM, you wrote:

PP> Although it's dangerous to use folder templates here's how it could be done:



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Why is it dangerous?

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header

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo TBUDL,

  I would like to insert a "Sender: " header in some messages, is such
  possible with a macro?

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Re[2]: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello John,

On Wednesday, September 05, 2001 17:40:42 [ -0400
GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB!
V1.54 Beta/7 - virus':

John> There are now two variants of this virus. Info can be found here:
John>  
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_MAGISTR.B&VSect=T

  Thank you very much for this info. Turns out that
  Webtrends has an updated engine that destroys
  the virus which is being released on a case by
  case basis. I had to ask for it. Stupid, stupid,
  stupid. I think I'm going to look @ some other
  anti-virus software. Any suggestions can be sent
  to me off-line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Again, thank you.

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Ridgefield, CT USA
TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
ICQ 41116329


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Re: Virus

[Mike Whalen]

> looks like an error in CAI's virus-signature file ...

Looks like a conspiracy to me. ;-)

Cheers,

Mike...


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Re: Virus

[Rob]

Hello all,

on Wed, 5 Sep 2001, at 15:26:26 local time (GMT -0700), syv wrote:

s>  InoculateIT real-time protection has found that c:\sys\thebat.exe is
s>  infected with Win32.Magistr.29188 virus.

yep, eTrust EZ Antivirus (shareware version of InoculateIT) says the same
after updating to the latest signature-file.

s> This has only happened today.

looks like an error in CAI's virus-signature file ...

s>  Help! It has automatically delete the TB.

change 'action infected files' to 'report only' 

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Virus

[syv]

Hi tbudl,


 I have TB 1.54d. I use Computer Associates InoculeIT v5. I just
 updated today the definition and run a full scan and I get:

 InoculateIT real-time protection has found that c:\sys\thebat.exe is
 infected with Win32.Magistr.29188 virus.

 This has only happened today.

 Help! It has automatically delete the TB.


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Re: Macros/templates?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Andrew,

On Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 11:51:03 PM you wrote:

AH> Hello TBUDL list,

AH>   I am just starting to get into macros/templates etc, and wondered
AH>   whether the following was possible:-

AH>   1.  When I send a message in a list folder, is it possible to fill
AH>   in to: field automatically?

Although it's dangerous to use folder templates here's how it could be done:

"Folder" / "Properties" / "Template"

insert somewhere into the template field

%TO='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


AH>   2.  When replying to list messages (I have already asked this
AH>   question afaik but missed the answer), I wish to have the to: field
AH>   say "xxx on xxx list .

"Folder" / "Properties" / "Reply"

%TO=""%TO='"%OFromName on Listhandle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'

Again: Using folder templates _is dangerous_. The better way (like e.g. I do
it and I think many others) is to add an addressbook entry for the list and
use AD-Templates to the correct values.
For example I've an AB-entry for this list and use in the Reply-Template for
this AB-entry the following line:

%TO=''%TO='"%OFromName on %ABToHandle" <%ABToEmail>'

AH>   3.  If a message comes in with a specific subject send a predefined
AH>   message to user with attachments.

This is a simple filter :-)
Create a new filter for 'Incoming mail'.
Insert all necessary values to match the mail you want, the criteria should be
better known to you than anybody of us :-)
If you do not know exactly what filter criteria you have to use where you
maybe want to send an example so we can try to guess how the filter should be
structured .-)
Tab 'Actions' select 'Send Auto-Reply'. Click the icon right this entry and
create a template used for this reply.
Use the macro

%ATTACHFILE="filepath"

in this template to automatically attach a defined file.

HTH Pit
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Re: More on Outbox

[John Seymour]

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Hello Andrew

AH> I have situations when I hav a sudden inspiration, start a message,
AH>   and then my inspiration fails me, having to back out of writing the
AH>   message, but it goes into outbox, and like others on the list I
AH>   can't get rid of it without sending it, then deleting it out of the
AH>   queue of the MTA

 Also you can just click on the hourglass icon and then delete the
 message normally.

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Re: More on Outbox

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Andrew,

On Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 11:45:46 PM you wrote:

AH> Hello TBUDL list,

AH>   I have situations when I hav a sudden inspiration, start a message,
AH>   and then my inspiration fails me, having to back out of writing the
AH>   message, but it goes into outbox, and like others on the list I
AH>   can't get rid of it without sending it, then deleting it out of the
AH>   queue of the MTA (this could also be done by sending it to
AH>   yourself)?

AH>   This seems very strange, but right mouse on message and delete
AH>   doesn't work, del doesn't work, can think of any other way to get
AH>   rid of message!


I'll guess a bit ...

Do you have "Options" / "Editor Preferences" / "Auto Save every XX Minutes"
set to a values > 0 ???
I've found no other case TB! saves a messages with an empty To: field.

If so and you cancel writing the message you normally get asked if you want to
keep the auto-saved message.
Here the 'warning' message is

This message was automatically saved
Would you like to keep the saved copy?

If you (accidentally) answer 'Yes' the message is still with an empty
recipient field saved _AND_ 'Parking' flag set (in Outbox this flag means
'Draft').
"Del" won't work until you delete this flag either by clicking on the iconized
'hour-glass' when the message is focused or using the shortcut '+D'.
This clears the flag and you're able to delete the message.
Alternative you can try to drag the message with the mouse into the "Trash"
folder and confirm the question "Do you want to MOVE parked messages as well?"
with 'Yes'.

HTH Pit
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Re: More on Outbox

[Mrten]

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Op woensdag 5 september 2001 schreef Andrew Hodgson:

> This seems very strange, but right mouse on message and delete
> doesn't work, del doesn't work, can think of any other way to get
> rid of message!

that is because the message is 'parked'. you can drag the message from
the outbox  to 'trash' which is the safest option (and click a dialog
box away), or you might click on the hourglass-like icon to 'unpark'
the message and then immediately press 'delete'.

i've heard people tell tales that between the 'unpark' and the
'delete' action the message got sent, so go with the first option!

Mrten.

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Re: More on Outbox

[John Seymour]

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 Hello Andrew

AH> I have situations when I hav a sudden inspiration, start a message,
AH>   and then my inspiration fails me, having to back out of writing the
AH>   message, but it goes into outbox, and like others on the list I
AH>   can't get rid of it without sending it, then deleting it out of the
AH>   queue of the MTA

 When it is saved to the outbox as a draft, you will see a little
 hour glass shaped icon, the message is liked parked in the
 outbox. If you want to delete this message just drag it to the
 trash.

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Macros/templates?

[Andrew Hodgson]

Hello TBUDL list,

  I am just starting to get into macros/templates etc, and wondered
  whether the following was possible:-

  1.  When I send a message in a list folder, is it possible to fill
  in to: field automatically?

  2.  When replying to list messages (I have already asked this
  question afaik but missed the answer), I wish to have the to: field
  say "xxx on xxx list .

  3.  If a message comes in with a specific subject send a predefined
  message to user with attachments.

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More on Outbox

[Andrew Hodgson]

Hello TBUDL list,

  I have situations when I hav a sudden inspiration, start a message,
  and then my inspiration fails me, having to back out of writing the
  message, but it goes into outbox, and like others on the list I
  can't get rid of it without sending it, then deleting it out of the
  queue of the MTA (this could also be done by sending it to
  yourself)?

  This seems very strange, but right mouse on message and delete
  doesn't work, del doesn't work, can think of any other way to get
  rid of message!

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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[John Seymour]

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Hello Jan

JR> PC-cillin has reported a virus named
JR>PE_MAGISTR.DAM on my system.

 There are now two variants of this virus. Info can be found here:
 
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_MAGISTR.B&VSect=T

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Re: The Hijri date/Islamic calendar

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Haye,

Historians believe that Wednesday, September 5, 2001 at 21:55 GMT
+0700 was when, Haye [H] typed the following:

H>Are any body have macro for The Hijri date/Islamic calendar ?

Not that I'm aware of.  However, I had created a translation template
that could translate the GMT time into various languages.  If
you could explain how the Hijri date and Islamic calender work, it
might be possible to modify that template.

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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[William Moore]

Hello Jan,

Wednesday, September 05, 2001, 2:19:04 PM, you wrote:

JR> Any other suggestions how to handle this?

 Have a look at http://www.diamondcs.com.au/
 In particular RegistryProt (which I use) and TDS.

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Re[2]: Delete messages from outbox

[syv]

On Wednesday, September 05, 2001 , Thomas F wrote the following in
regards to: [Delete messages from outbox]

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TF> Hello syv,

TF> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:46:12 -0700 GMT (05/09/2001, 22:46 +0800 GMT),
TF> syv wrote:


s>> Hi tbudl,

s>> I am trying to delete messages from the outbox.

TF> Did you try the  button while the message is closed, and
TF> highlighted on the Outbox' message list?

No, doesn't work if the destination is blank.

TF> Other than that, you can drag it to the trash folder.

No, doesn't work if the destination is blank.

s>> These messages do not have a destination. They are from a template,

TF> They "come from"? I thought they were in the Outbox?

s>> where somebody is sending me these messages from an invalid
s>> address:

s>> €  @prodigy.net.m

s>> I have tried placing an address by hand in these messages, but I still
s>> can't.

TF> You should be able too pen any message in the Outbox by
TF> double-clicking on it, and then you can amend the recipients. What
TF> happens when you try it here? Nothing, or weird stuff?


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Re[4]: Calendar & To Do program with the Bat?

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Hi Carren,

Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 10:33:25 PM, you wrote:

C> Anyway, I like it for what I use it for. Let me know what you think!

I  would  like  to  add,  that  I  saw  your  message, and based on your
recommendation I tried it and was impressed, thank you.

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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Thomas F]

Hello Jan,

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:19:04 -0400 GMT (05/09/2001, 21:19 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR>PC-cillin has reported a virus named
JR>PE_MAGISTR.DAM on my system. Source is TB.
JR>PC-cillin can't clean or delete it. Scanned my
JR>system, found complete location & dragged them
JR>to the recycle bin & then emptied Recycle Bin.
JR>Has anyone else had any experience with this
JR>trojan? Any other suggestions how to handle this?

I'm not sure whether it was this one, but yes, I've had a similar
experience. This happens when you download the malware while PCC's
Realtime-Scan is switched off, or it is a new virus that is not yet
known. PCC will find it only later, when it's alreeady in the message
base. (The message base is the location then; I assume this is what
you mean by "TB is the source").

However, usually malware is caught when downloading mail and never
make it into the message base.

I have also set PCC to "quaratine uncleanable files", so that it will
not just stay were it is when it cannot be cleaned.

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Re: Delete messages from outbox

[Thomas F]

Hello syv,

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:46:12 -0700 GMT (05/09/2001, 22:46 +0800 GMT),
syv wrote:


s> Hi tbudl,

s> I am trying to delete messages from the outbox.

Did you try the  button while the message is closed, and
highlighted on the Outbox' message list?

Other than that, you can drag it to the trash folder.

s> These messages do not have a destination. They are from a template,

They "come from"? I thought they were in the Outbox?

s> where somebody is sending me these messages from an invalid
s> address:

s> €  @prodigy.net.m

s> I have tried placing an address by hand in these messages, but I still
s> can't.

You should be able too pen any message in the Outbox by
double-clicking on it, and then you can amend the recipients. What
happens when you try it here? Nothing, or weird stuff?

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The Hijri date/Islamic calendar

[Haye]

Hello all !
   Are any body have macro for The Hijri date/Islamic calendar ?


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Delete messages from outbox

[syv]

Hi tbudl,

I am trying to delete messages from the outbox. These messages do not
have a destination. They are from a template, where somebody is
sending me these messages from an invalid address:

€  

@prodigy.net.m

I have tried placing an address by hand in these messages, but I still
can't.
 


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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Mike Whalen]

>PC-cillin has reported a virus named
>PE_MAGISTR.DAM on my system.

[SNIP]

>Has anyone else had any experience with this
>trojan? Any other suggestions how to handle this?

It's a variant of another virus.

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_MAGISTR.DA
M

Also:
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_MAGISTR.A

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

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TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - virus

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello TBUDListers.

   PC-cillin has reported a virus named
   PE_MAGISTR.DAM on my system. Source is TB.
   PC-cillin can't clean or delete it. Scanned my
   system, found complete location & dragged them
   to the recycle bin & then emptied Recycle Bin.
   Has anyone else had any experience with this
   trojan? Any other suggestions how to handle this?

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TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
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Re: Automatically Archiving into subdirs

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello Clemens,

On Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:11:48 +0200, Clemens 'Gullevek'
Schwaighofer [CGS] wrote concerning 'Automatically Archiving into
subdirs':

CGS> Hi, I have several ML Directorys. Most of them are >10.000 mails.
CGS> although loading is very quick, I'd like to split them, in
CGS> monthly subdirs (eg thebat-2001-09, etc ...). are there anyways
CGS> to do this automatically via "The Bat"? Or do I have to do it
CGS> manualla ?

Maybe you can do it semi-automatic with some filters, but I think
doing it by hand is far quicker. I always do it manually.

I create a subfolder for e.g. August and in the properties of that
folder I click 'Use the account default column settings'. Then I move
all the messages, starting from the first thread that started on
August 01 to the last thread started on August 31, to that folder
(using CTRL+* and selecting all the messages and then CTRL+M).

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Re[3]: Images in HTML emails?

[Mrten]

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Op woensdag 5 september 2001 schreef Jason Palmgren:

>> have you found the memo-view (ctrl-shift-i) already? it's like a
>> little post-it! you can attach to emails.. it takes a bit getting
>> used to, but i find it very handy.

> I'm a bit confused.  When I try to use the (ctrl-shift-i) command
> nothing happens.  Am I missing something?  Sounds like a cool feature,
> but I'm having no luck with it...?

Another way to access this function: In the main menu, go the 'view'
with your mouse, and select 'memo auto-view'.

see http://famke.gimmie.tudelft.nl/mrten/memo.png

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Re: Calendar & To Do program with the Bat?

[Hanspeter Schaffner]

Hello Carren,

> if you want one for personal use with a calendar, diary, tasks,
> address book capability - plus a few extras, "Digita Organiser" is
> very useful. It is free and as far as I can tell doesn't use much in

Is it possible to doevery important thing by keyboard or can certain
important things be done only using the mouse? - And can it be
configured for international use (different date/time formats, non-USA
address format?)

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Re[2]: Images in HTML emails?

[Mrten]

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Op woensdag 5 september 2001 schreef Thomas F:

> Hi Mrten,

> On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:54:12 +0200GMT (05/09/2001, 07:54 +0800GMT),
> Mrten wrote:

M>> an useful tip i don't remember who came from: set the width of the
M>> memo-column to 6, and make sure you enter a '!' as the first character
M>> of every memo.

> Why the "!" ?

Well, since the memo-view is a tiny bit crippled, it's a way to
differentiate in the message-view between messages that have and
messages that have not a memo attached.

Attachments were no good here i think, let me post a link with a
screenshot: http://famke.gimmie.tudelft.nl/mrten/bat.png

as you can see there is a ! in the column when there is an attachment,
and it is empty when there is none.

Mrten.

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Re: Threads

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Nick,

On Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 12:41:25 AM you wrote (at least in part):

NA> I believe it had to do with how some Clients were filtering off of the To:
NA> header.

*aaa* ... I think I understand ...
To make their life easier we should only use the list e-mail address as 'To:'
so they can write simple filters instead of thinking about complex (but more
often working) ones ...
In other words: because it supports laziness on one side of the line the other
side has to use this self-made standard.

As often in life this is a quite simple explanation to a problem I've never
thought it exists.

So ... happy 'To:-ing' :-)

P.S.: This one time, Nick, I've changed my To:-field manually, just for you
*ggg*

P.P.S: BEFORE anybody (again) starts a flame war or something similar: THIS
MAIL IS NO OFFENSE! IT'S PURE SARCASM (or at least the try of it *g*) AND NOT
MEANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY PERSONAL!!! :-)

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Re: Calendar & To Do program with the Bat?

[Tim]

On Wednesday, 5 September 2001, Miles Johnson wrote:

MJ> We're looking for a good shareware program that:

MJ> - offers to do lists and calendar features with good flexibility
MJ> - is stable
MJ> - does not use large system resources
MJ> - ideally would integrate with The Bat in some way

MJ> Anything you like and/or use out there?

I like and use Above & Beyond .

What I like most is that is does not have a separate to do list and
calendar of appointments. Instead, to do items are dynamically
scheduled according to priority, due date/time, and available time.

I'm not sure about integration -- I haven't had time or need to
investigate. I know it has many features I haven't explored.

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