Re: Runline switches
Hello Colin, On Saturday, December 8, 2001 at 00:11 GMT -0600, a creature mimicking colin gebhart [CG] wrote: CG> does anyone know if TB supports runline switches and how to format CG> them? CG> what i want to do is run TB in administrator/user configuration, but i CG> don't want to have to enter my account name and password each time CG> i open TB like it requires. Absolutely, check out the help file under: |-> Contents |-> Advanced Usage topics |-> Command line parameters The one you want is the /Focus command. CG> since i am running winXP in multiuser mode This will work on any version of Windows. Be warned, you are increasing the chance that someone else could find your password. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: repetitive tasks
Hello Elli, It was foretold that on Friday, December 7, 2001 at 10:24 PM, Elli [E] would type: E> 1) I run a membership site, so I add every new member into a Members E> address book. Then I go in "by member lookup panel" and manually add E> their first name, last name, country, membership expiry date, and E> membership duration. These are all extracted from the order form. Is E> there any way to extract these and enter the information into the E> address book fields automatically? If I understand correctly, all this info is in the message body and none of it is in the message headers, is that correct? If it is, then you can do it with an external script. The steps would be: 1. Have a TB filter run your script. 2. Have the script translate the message body into an LDIF format file and use the command-line options to import the LDIF file into your address book. If you would like help writing such a script, please post a sample order form so we can see the format, field names, field formats, etc. Actually, this might be better suited for the TBTECH list. See message footer for subscription info. E> 2) I add every new member address into a notification email list. E> Copying and pasting 30+ email addys a day is TIME CONSUMING. UGH. Is E> there any way to highlight a list of emails and extract the addresses E> only? Filters can directly extract info from the message headers and put it into the address book. Check out the Actions tab of your filter. If you want to review the messages before adding the addresses to the AB, you can run the filter manually or run it from a hotkey (see the Options tab). -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A If you throw a cat out of the car window, does it become kitty litter? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
repetitive tasks
Hello there! I have been using TheBat! for over a year now, but have not gone beyond making some basic filters and using multiple address books. I have many repetitive tasks though, that I am SURE there is a better way to do! 1) I run a membership site, so I add every new member into a Members address book. Then I go in "by member lookup panel" and manually add their first name, last name, country, membership expiry date, and membership duration. These are all extracted from the order form. Is there any way to extract these and enter the information into the address book fields automatically? 2) I add every new member address into a notification email list. Copying and pasting 30+ email addys a day is TIME CONSUMING. UGH. Is there any way to highlight a list of emails and extract the addresses only? Anyway, That's all I can come up with for now. Any ideas would be a BIG help! Elli * -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Runline switches
does anyone know if TB supports runline switches and how to format them? what i want to do is run TB in administrator/user configuration, but i don't want to have to enter my account name and password each time i open TB like it requires. since i am running winXP in multiuser mode i could have a shortcut to TB on my desktop with the runline switches for my account name and password in it. the shortcut would be protected from local users since i have a winXP logon password. then when i was on my desktop i could click TB shortcut and it would launch right up without the account name and password dialog. thanks for any help, colin gebhart. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Unable to Download
Raj, On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, at 22:02:49 [GMT +0530] (which was 10:02 PM where I live) you wrote: >>From the afternoon today I have been experiencing problems in down loading large R> mails. When I say large I mean around 40K or so. I would like to have a few pointers here please. It seems that the problem appears to be localised in the sense that I have tried 3 different pop servers and Iam unable to download from any. I also configured Outlook and the connection timed out. Any assistance as to where I should begin to look to see why mails which are big 20K upwards are not being downloaded by both TB & Outlook. As mentioned I can download files thru the browser other wise. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I intend to live forever - so far so good. Replied on Saturday, December 08, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: MT sorting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dwight! On 7 Dec 2001 at 20:48:03 you wrote: > good idea, but not top priority. Need to fix the viewer and fix the > common folders. They need to compress with the rest, filtering there > needs to improve, need to be able to have common trash folder, need to > have flagging show in the account tree, and a number of other things > we have been discussing here lately. In the moment there are lots of things with a higher priority, most of them don't have to do anything with the new feature "Common Folders". I am not going into it here, but you know what I mean from TBBETA. The MT sorting just struck me today when I had a lot mails in the morning with a very short time frame. So I wanted to know if there were certain important messages already in. One led to the others and, boom, the suggestion was ready. didn't file it, yet, to RITLabs. Will be when the next release is out. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Statistics are like bikinis: What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBEr+fTo1oA8g8dLEQKF8QCg08LISYvtuiCXZRylBusY1o7kxs0AoP4x RyTPcMiwu8fDFf1ayJbkHQeg =qs1/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Just curious why ....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marc! On 7 Dec 2001 at 20:40:12 you wrote: > BUT: I want a email client that will last for a long long time. I don't > want to start using a email client again that will be discontinued at > some time. Can I rely on RitLabs that they introduce The Bat version 2 > in the very near future? TB! like Opera has been around quite a while now, is definitely developing and is not just technologically but also marketingwise promising. In short: It seems to get off the ground just now. That does mean that RITLabs may actually live from their sales, which would mean TB! will be around quite a while. All this is pure conjecture, nobody can be sure how long a software product - or any other - will be around. Agent has been called dead for years and it is still alive and kicking (there's even a beta for version 1.9). > MCS, the former developer of Calypso, also promised to introduce new > versions and then suddenly pulled the plug out; because: "You can't beat > Outlook". Why wouldn't this happen with The Bat? Why not?. THe question for me is, does a product fit my needs? At the current stage I won't abandon either Opera or TB! or Agent just because it is discontinued (neither is). All have there shortcomings but all do what I want for a broad spectrum. I'd look for replacements when something comes up which is not supported. In TB!'s case it would be, for instance, IMAP. Should I need it and TB! can't offer, I'd have to change. > Can anybody explain me why RitLabs introduces new features (like common > folders) in an 'old' version (version 1.xx) when they are very (I hope) busy > with finishing (I hope) version 2.? If I were them I put all my > effort in completing version 2 and, besides solving the serious bugs, > quit developing version 1. Why not? Tell me, why not? They work like it should be, while developing the new version they put in suitable features for testing purposes into the current series. One of the great advantages of small companies and shareware is the continuos developing cycle. Not like MS or Corel, were users get a few big bug fixes/patches and once in a year they have to depart from a big amount of cash to get the one new feature they need. The problem of how to handle version 1 has been discussed a few times. How about this argument: Why should I buy v.2 when v.1 is enough for me? Just for the bug fixes, which won't be done any longer in v.1, because it is discontinued in favour of v.2? This, BTW, was a very big issue in Opera newsgroups. Seriously, does TB! currently fit your needs? Are there any outstanding features essential for you? If you answer "yes" for the second question you should be worried about continuation. Ask about the feature and we may be able to help you get off your worries. A personal comment: I am of the impression RITLabs does a great job not just in programming but also in continuity, marketing, service and customer relation. I trust they will be around for some years with their main product. But I do say the same for Amazon.com ... Hope that helped a bit. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C A great truth is a statement whose opposite is also a great truth. (Niels Bohr) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA+AwUBPBEqzvTo1oA8g8dLEQLHVQCfV6Y21h43U7jknp5888MRyB6E4UEAl2v2 vxrL90RJhOqgDFggVPbNe94= =4Zzs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat beginners list
I've answered my own question by finding the complete list of TB User Discussion Lists at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html Thanks Tom -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Just curious why ....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dwight! On 7 Dec 2001 at 20:52:07 you wrote: > It's been suggested on the Beta list that current development is beta > testing of version 2. To clarify, Maxim seems to have told in Cologne that v.2 is under way for the early months (even January) of 2002. Since it has long been known that 2 will be in Delphi 6 and the current beta series is essentially a test for 1.xx ported to Delphi and a new HTML rendering engine - with some new features implemented and some hints for new features some of conjectured we may be testing betas for version 2. When I wrote it replying to a message by Marck it was half jokingly. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for your actions. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBEm/vTo1oA8g8dLEQJVGwCgrAGfnZdWynrLbBmJEMQ0EYVoOnYAoNQx oAux7n/Wrcg1QHaNn5i4Pdic =xPa9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Problem with Connection Centre
Hi. I'm kind of new to the list (I used to post here a couple of years ago). I'm using TB 1.53bis, on a Win98 Pentium MMX-based system, 32Mb RAM and 2.1 Gb HD I have a weird (at least to me) problem: the Connection Centre always appears as minimized, but when I click on the taskbar, it doesn't appear. I couldn't find the cause of this behaviour. It has been happening since 3 days ago. I even tried to re-install TB (i.e., install TB over my current installation without uninstalling it). I didn't want to uninstall, 'cos I don't know if it'll erase my configuration. Well, that's it. Any ideas? Sorry if my english is not so good, but it's not my mother tongue ;) -- Regards JM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Just curious why ....
On 7 Dec 2001, 1:40:12 PM, Marc van Breemen wrote: > Can anybody explain me why RitLabs introduces new features (like > common folders) in an 'old' version (version 1.xx) when they are > very (I hope) busy with finishing (I hope) version 2.? If I were > them I put all my effort in completing version 2 and, besides > solving the serious bugs, quit developing version 1. Why not? Tell > me, why not? It's been suggested on the Beta list that current development is beta testing of version 2. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: MT sorting
On 7 Dec 2001, 1:00:33 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Hello TBUDL Members! > Can anyone tell me on which principles the MailTicker sorts the > message? According to the signal in the columns, by received time. > I think it would be a good idea to implement a feature to customize > sorting in it - i.e. by accounts, alphabetic, received/created time. > Even combinations would be nice (first by accounts, then by creation > time per account). good idea, but not top priority. Need to fix the viewer and fix the common folders. They need to compress with the rest, filtering there needs to improve, need to be able to have common trash folder, need to have flagging show in the account tree, and a number of other things we have been discussing here lately. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat beginners list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:38:33 +GMT (which was 19:38 +0100GMT where I live), Tom Cunliffe thought about "The Bat beginners list" and wrote: TC> It says somewhere on The Bat website that there's a The Bat beginners TC> email list on yahoo groups. TC> I've searched yahoo groups and can find several lists in non-English TC> languages but none in English. Hi Tom, I think you found it! :o) - -- Cheers Peter 'Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again.' Oscar Wilde -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication :o) Comment: Key available at http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Comment: Key-ID:0xE10774CE Comment: Have a lot of fun! :-) iQA/AwUBPBEN8AM2UgbhB3TOEQI+AwCdFDSHg5rzdIUh0jyM9CkocsktJRwAmwWE pZ1Thwek6YHFyydnLdTTswm4 =/8eo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Just curious why ....
Hi to you all, I'm a former Calypso user which is, as you maybe know, now orphaned by the owner. So let's say it's dead. Now I am looking for the best replacement. Two email clients are left in my search: Becky and The Bat. Both are extremely good. BUT: I want a email client that will last for a long long time. I don't want to start using a email client again that will be discontinued at some time. Can I rely on RitLabs that they introduce The Bat version 2 in the very near future? They are building it for more than two years now. Still no beta to see, that is not really promising. MCS, the former developer of Calypso, also promised to introduce new versions and then suddenly pulled the plug out; because: "You can't beat Outlook". Why wouldn't this happen with The Bat? Why not?. Can anybody explain me why RitLabs introduces new features (like common folders) in an 'old' version (version 1.xx) when they are very (I hope) busy with finishing (I hope) version 2.? If I were them I put all my effort in completing version 2 and, besides solving the serious bugs, quit developing version 1. Why not? Tell me, why not? Seriously, I like The Bat very much, so don't take my comment as an attack. I'm just worried. Greetings, Marc van Breemen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
MT sorting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL Members! Can anyone tell me on which principles the MailTicker sorts the message? I think it would be a good idea to implement a feature to customize sorting in it - i.e. by accounts, alphabetic, received/created time. Even combinations would be nice (first by accounts, then by creation time per account). - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C If all men acted from enlightened self interest, the world would be a paradise in comparison to what it is. (Bertrand Russell) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBED2/To1oA8g8dLEQKOMACfXkNIwxk9P2gIf9Vmb0rqKplmiuYAoJiC 0QD5r1imPOlE/O9wVQJT6OZa =7jOg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat beginners list
It says somewhere on The Bat website that there's a The Bat beginners email list on yahoo groups. I've searched yahoo groups and can find several lists in non-English languages but none in English. Can anyone give me a clue what I should be looking for? Thanks in anticipation Tom -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Unable to Download
Syafril, On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, at 00:20:19 [GMT +0700] (which was 10:50 PM where I live) you wrote: SH> Remove of disable ? After disable, shutdown and restart first I only did exit... I am not sure what is the way to disable AV so that it does not start again when I reboot... other than un installing the AV... -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Girls are like Internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken :) Replied on Friday, December 07, 2001 using TB Ver 1.54/10 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Unable to Download
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 22:29 GMT +0530 (07/12/2001 23:59 where you think I live) "Raj"=[R] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah on tbudl : SH>> IIRC, you are running AVG and other AV, try again after disable AVG SH>> (at least). > I removed all the AV and still the problem persists... Remove of disable ? After disable, shutdown and restart first > TGIF, Have a great weekend! OGIF (Oh God It's already Friday ) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Unable to Download
Syafril, On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, at 23:45:16 [GMT +0700] (which was 10:15 PM where I live) you wrote: SH> IIRC, you are running AVG and other AV, try again after disable AVG SH> (at least). I removed all the AV and still the problem persists... TGIF, Have a great weekend! -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear. Replied on Friday, December 07, 2001 using TB Ver 1.54/10 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Unable to Download
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 22:02 GMT +0530 (07/12/2001 23:32 where you think I live) "Raj"=[R] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : > From the afternoon today I have been experiencing problems in down loading large > mails. When I say large I mean around 40K or so. [ ...] > Any idea what could be the problem ??? IIRC, you are running AVG and other AV, try again after disable AVG (at least). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Unable to Download
Fellow TB users, >From the afternoon today I have been experiencing problems in down loading large mails. When I say large I mean around 40K or so. Smaller mails 4k, 5 K have been downloaded in a jiffy. I have also been able to down load mp3 files during the day w/o problems ? I am connected on broadband and have a good connection speed. This problem is with three accounts. Two accounts checking the same pop server and the third a different pop server. I will also be uploading the cc window at http://www.mailmejobs.com/conc.jpg Given below is the log of one account and as can be seen its been on for over an hour w/o downloading mail. *07-Dec-2001, 19:25:31: FETCH - receiving mail messages +07-Dec-2001, 19:25:37: FETCH - connected to POP3 server +07-Dec-2001, 19:25:37: FETCH - authenticated (plain) *07-Dec-2001, 19:25:37: FETCH - 150 messages in the mailbox, 5 new +07-Dec-2001, 21:46:31: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received *07-Dec-2001, 21:46:57: FETCH - receiving mail messages +07-Dec-2001, 21:46:57: FETCH - connected to POP3 server +07-Dec-2001, 21:46:58: FETCH - authenticated (plain) *07-Dec-2001, 21:46:59: FETCH - 153 messages in the mailbox, 8 new +07-Dec-2001, 21:47:21: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received --- Any idea what could be the problem ??? -- Best regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought/Joke for the mail : Cannot open file "d:\bat\Cookies for Bat.txt" Member of The Bat! Fan Club. Composed on Friday, December 07, 2001 using TB Ver 1.54/10 On Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 16:15 GMT +0100 (07/12/2001 22:15 where you think I live) "Gert-Jan van Krevelen"=[GJv] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah : > Tnx for the replies. > I'll check it out with the techies monday and see if they can combine > they're knowledge with this info. > But I guess not, since my main plan was to, when I got it completely > working the way I want to, to convince collegues to use the Bat! too, > to get rid of the stupid Outlook virusses. (Next step would be to get > rid of Exchange... ;)), but a 2nd program is not really an option. For > me it would be, but most collegues are completely computer-stupid so > they're never going to understand that. I guess IMAP is the protocol > we need, and if the Bat! is not supporting that completely yet, I > guess we'll have to wait until it comes available. In fact Public Folder under MDaemon can be connected to Mailing List, so we can have another work around (this one what I implemented on my Internal Office for Marketing ), as follows : - Create Mailing List with name "sales" (of course you must delete Sales account/mailbox first). - Set this list as One way List, i.e. all messages come from this list will reply back to Original Poster. - For all members of Sales List, set Folder Template %BCC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (better than that, create it on Address Book Template if you're share TB! Public Address Book). Set that macro for Composing and Reply Template, also set the Identity so that all reply-to : is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - That way, if any member of Sales List reply to author, another member will getting copy, and reply-to: automatically address to original sender. The downside with this approach only you can not create autoresponder, but you may using Content Filter to do that. If your technical person confuse about how to do that, please contact me off list. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
Hey Syafril, SH>> You must using IMAP Protocol, but unfortunetely IMAP in TB! still SH>> limited, so you can not "subscribe" IMAP folder as you wish to. SH>> Sorry ... S> This a work around : S> - install MD Email Agent (aka Worldclient Watch). S> - Subcribe only for Sales Folder, and set to notify only for folder S> Sales. S> - If new message arrive to Sales Folder, your Email Agent will flash, S> then Open WorldClient (note: I am using it here for Groupware S> application (Calender, Appointment and Meeting Scheduler). Tnx for the replies. I'll check it out with the techies monday and see if they can combine they're knowledge with this info. But I guess not, since my main plan was to, when I got it completely working the way I want to, to convince collegues to use the Bat! too, to get rid of the stupid Outlook virusses. (Next step would be to get rid of Exchange... ;)), but a 2nd program is not really an option. For me it would be, but most collegues are completely computer-stupid so they're never going to understand that. I guess IMAP is the protocol we need, and if the Bat! is not supporting that completely yet, I guess we'll have to wait until it comes available. G :) "One ring rules them all" -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Connection Centre
Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 I have a problem with the Connection Centre in that whenever Remind Me sends a reminder email, the Connection Centre remains open. According to the Connection Centre, delivery of the message doesn't finish -- the Progress remains at 0%. However, the message is sent (I can guarantee this because I'm on the distribution list and I received it). I have to either click Abort or Delete Task to remove the message from the queue. Sending queued messages gets an info message that there's nothing to send. However, the message remains visible in the queue. I can't close TB until I delete the message from the Connection Centre. Remind Me uses simple MAPI to send reminder messages to the email address. Here's the headers for one of those messages: Received: from 192.168.42.7 by colossus ([192.168.42.4] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:43:53 - Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:39:56 + From: Geoff Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Business Reply-To: Geoff Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: GJC Technical Ltd X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pay tax and NI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: VPOP3 V1.4.1 - Registered Subject: Scheduled Reminder Any ideas? TIA, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 18:26:14 GMT +0700 (07/12/2001 18:26 where you think I live) "Syafril Hermansyah"=[SH] wrote to Gert-Jan van Krevelen : GJvK>> In the Bat however I can't find a way to specify a mailbox-name, GJvK>> it assumes that the mailbox name is the login name. Which is GJvK>> correct for my personal mailbox, but not for the 'sales' GJvK>> mailbox. I'd like to be able to open that one too, but no matter GJvK>> what I try, for the login info I need my own name else I can't GJvK>> even connect, but when I do that, it only retreives my mail and GJvK>> not the 'sales' mailbox. SH> You must using IMAP Protocol, but unfortunetely IMAP in TB! still SH> limited, so you can not "subscribe" IMAP folder as you wish to. SH> Sorry ... This a work around : - install MD Email Agent (aka Worldclient Watch). - Subcribe only for Sales Folder, and set to notify only for folder Sales. - If new message arrive to Sales Folder, your Email Agent will flash, then Open WorldClient (note: I am using it here for Groupware application (Calender, Appointment and Meeting Scheduler). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 12:12:24 GMT +0100 (07/12/2001 18:12 where you thinkIlive)"Gert-Janvan Krevelen"=[GJv] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : GJvK> At work I have of course my own mailbox, which is no problem to set GJvK> the Bat up to open that box. GJvK> We also have a general mailboxes like 'sales'. A few people have GJvK> rights for that mailbox, and when using Outlook, you can simply add GJvK> the mailbox and it checks the user-rights, and it shows the contents GJvK> if you have access. You mean Sales is "public folder" in Exhange or MDaemon (are you using Mdaemon right ?). Actually it is IMAP folder. GJvK> In the Bat however I can't find a way to specify a mailbox-name, GJvK> it assumes that the mailbox name is the login name. Which is GJvK> correct for my personal mailbox, but not for the 'sales' GJvK> mailbox. I'd like to be able to open that one too, but no matter GJvK> what I try, for the login info I need my own name else I can't GJvK> even connect, but when I do that, it only retreives my mail and GJvK> not the 'sales' mailbox. You must using IMAP Protocol, but unfortunetely IMAP in TB! still limited, so you can not "subscribe" IMAP folder as you wish to. Sorry ... -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
Hi, On Friday, December 07, 2001 Gert-Jan van Krevelen wrote: > At work I have of course my own mailbox, which is no problem to set > the Bat up to open that box. > We also have a general mailboxes like 'sales'. A few people have > rights for that mailbox, and when using Outlook, you can simply add > the mailbox and it checks the user-rights, and it shows the contents > if you have access. > In the Bat however I can't find a way to specify a mailbox-name I'm afraid access to shared folders in the way you describe it is an MS Exchange thing. It will not work that way with non-Exchange mail clients. You might try to convince the Exchange administrator to enable IMAP (another mail access protocol) on you company's Exchange server. IMAP supports separate folders on the server side. Yet, I'm not sure if IMAP supports common folders and also, the Bat!'s current IMAP support is also limited. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Echange - open other mailbox then my own
Hello Bat! world, At work I have of course my own mailbox, which is no problem to set the Bat up to open that box. We also have a general mailboxes like 'sales'. A few people have rights for that mailbox, and when using Outlook, you can simply add the mailbox and it checks the user-rights, and it shows the contents if you have access. In the Bat however I can't find a way to specify a mailbox-name, it assumes that the mailbox name is the login name. Which is correct for my personal mailbox, but not for the 'sales' mailbox. I'd like to be able to open that one too, but no matter what I try, for the login info I need my own name else I can't even connect, but when I do that, it only retreives my mail and not the 'sales' mailbox. Is there a way to specify a mailbox name which I'd like to open? (except for creating a sales account, and use that to access the mailbox, since that's basically not option because of the other people who need to access that mailbox too. Forwarding rules is not really an option either, since we need the mailbox to be complete, and when I mark something as read, the others automatically see it as read (or replied to), and know that way they don't need to look at that). Tnx in advance. Oh for the record: I'm using The Bat! Version 1.53d Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 G :) "One ring rules them all" -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: IMAP email login encrypted password
Hello Randy, On 7 Dec 2001 at 09:48:48 you wrote (at least in part): RR> I'm talking about IMAP. On the same server, Netscape Messenger RR> 4.78 talks to the server and no username/password is visible in RR> the packets it sends. Just plain IMAP with no special security. RR> Using TB, regardless of what I configure (MD5,...) TB sends the RR> username/password in the clear for every transaction with the RR> server! I can't try at the moment but I think I can guess. TB!'s IMAP functionality ain't the best. It's very rudimentary ... So I think Netscape keeps the connection open and therefore sends User/Pass only once, when establishing the connection, while TB! uses IMAP as an other form of POP3 and therefore closes the connection after every action you do. So it has to resend User/Pass every time you want to do something on the IMAP server. As IMAP is under heavy development I think this will be changed too. But one thing _is_ sure: Netscape has to send User/Pass too, otherwise no Login could be done :-) But as I said: seem Netscape needs to do this only once in opposite to TB! :-) RR> I must be missing something? Not really :-) -- Best Regards Peter Palmreuther mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) "Love your country but never trust its government." -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
IMAP email login encrypted password
Hi Peter, > ?!? What login are you talking about? POP3-login for fetching your > mail? Or IMAP? > Yes, there is the possibility for TB! to use a more secure way, sadly > the server has to support this kind of login. One would be 'APOP' an > other would be 'MD5-CRAM'. Both are supported by TB! and IIRC SSL is > being developed. > The passwords are stored somehow encrypted within TB! but as long the > the server only understands plain text passwords (which is the case if > no APOP/CRAM is available) TB! has to decrypt before fetching your > mail, otherwise the server would refuse your connection :-) I'm talking about IMAP. On the same server, Netscape Messenger 4.78 talks to the server and no username/password is visible in the packets it sends. Just plain IMAP with no special security. Using TB, regardless of what I configure (MD5,...) TB sends the username/password in the clear for every transaction with the server! I must be missing something? -- Best regards, Randy -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
