Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-15 Thread Clive Taylor

15 June 2002, 00:43, you wrote:

LT I didn't realize there was a later version, better get on
LT over there and collect it!

6.03 now, with 6.04 in beta and imminent!

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Mail Ticker

2002-06-15 Thread Geoff Lane

Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

The Mail Ticker won't stay put. I want it to appear just above the
Task Bar, where I can see it but it doesn't prevent my from working.
However, each time I log onto my computer, the Mail Ticker moves back
to the centre of the screen.

Is there a way to get the Mail Ticker to stay where I put it?

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Re[2]: Mail Ticker Not Working

2002-06-15 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Roelof,

On Friday, June 14, 2002, 11:18:10 PM, you wrote:
RO The ticker will be displayed at the left top of your screen, you can
RO drag it everywhere you want to.

Thanks for your help.  Unfortunately, I have tried this and it doesn't
seem to help.

If I set the Ticker to be on Always in the settings,I can see it.
It's just automatically does not work as the MailTicker does not
open when I have new mail (even though the Inbox folder is set to
Show unread messages on MailTicker

Any ideas?

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Selecting Specific Browser

2002-06-15 Thread Surfanytime

Hello TBUDL,

  Is there any way of having TheBat! select a specific web browser to handle 
hyperlinks in e-mails?

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Re: Separate image files

2002-06-15 Thread SyP

Hello Joseph N.,
 
You wrote on 6/15/2002, 2:46 AM:

Joseph(Embedded image moved to file: pic00041.pcx)

Joseph I've never seen that before. Does that have anything to do
Joseph with my running a BAV?

No, it's likely a badly configured Lotus Notes/Domino on the sender's
side.

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Re: Mail Ticker Not Working

2002-06-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 8:05:55 AM, Ben Kennish wrote:

 If I set the Ticker to be on Always in the settings,I can see it.
 It's just automatically does not work as the MailTicker does not
 open when I have new mail (even though the Inbox folder is set to
 Show unread messages on MailTicker

 Any ideas?

It sounds more like a problem with the display criteria for the
ticker. If you right-click on it (you will need to set it to display
Always first, you will see a menu item for Messages. Go to that, and
check that it should be displaying all message types, and make sure
that the time limits are not set so short that the Ticker never
appears.

Julian

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Re: Bug?

2002-06-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 6:48:07 AM, Chill wrote:

 Someone explains me, that she just can't write mails with The Bat!
 1.60m or 1.60q. When she clics in the TO field, The Bat! just goes
 down without any error messages. She is on Windows XP.

It is a corrupted address history file.  The best way to solve the
problem is to go to Options|Preferences and the System tab.  Go to the
Autocomplete section, and either turn off autocompletion or set it to
use the Default or All addressbooks.

Julian

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Re: Full-width preview pane bug?

2002-06-15 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

Hello Roelof,

Saturday, June 15, 2002, 12:56:01 AM, you wrote (possibly edited):
 Hello Costas,

 On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 23:12:46 +0300GMT (14-6-02, 22:12 +0200GMT, where
 I live), you wrote:

CP I  missed  something out. The problem actually occurs when you
CP move on to read a second message in the preview pane by pressing
CP Alt-Ctrl left (or right) arrow.
 I still did not have a problem.
CP Do  you  mean  that  you  can drag the divider back down to its normal
CP position?  I  cannot do that once I change from one message to another

 Same problem here. I changed folders (while changing messages) and
 could not drag the preview pane back to it's original size.

 I don't know whether the OS matters. I'm using Win98.
 I don't have any toolbars displayed by TB.

I'm using Windows 98 too. I tried to record it as a bug but I couldn't
log in to RIT Labs website at the time. I may try again later.

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Re: Full-width preview pane bug?

2002-06-15 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

Hello Jan,

Saturday, June 15, 2002, 12:35:56 AM, you wrote (possibly edited):
 Hi Costas.

 At 3:10 PM on Friday, June 14, 2002 you wrote the following
 about [Full-width preview pane bug?]:

   Consider the following:

   Use a different split style, ex: full height file tree
   which allows you to see a good portion of everything. When
   you want to read a msg just double click on it  a new
   window will pop up. From there you can go pretty much full
   screen  move on to the next msg as you wish.

   After that, you can move to any other folder by Menu -
   Navigation - Move to Folder or by keyboard via
   SHFTCTRL G.

   Maybe you'll find that more convenient.

Usually  I  prefer to see as much as possible on the Preview pane (I'm
too lazy!). Anyway, I didn't know about the SHFTCTRL G shortcut. I
like it and I might begin using it. Thank you for the tip.

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Re: Selecting Specific Browser

2002-06-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hail Tim

On 15 June 2002 at 08:43:04 +0100 (which was 08:43 where I live) Tim
emanated these words of wisdom

 Is there any way of having TheBat! select a specific web browser to handle
 hyperlinks in e-mails?

The Bat! uses the default associations of your system. So if the default is
IE that is whet The Bat! uses.

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Re: Mail Ticker

2002-06-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Geoff

On 15 June 2002 at 07:57:50 +0100 (which was 07:57 where I live) Geoff Lane
emanated these words of wisdom

 The Mail Ticker won't stay put. I want it to appear just above the Task
 Bar, where I can see it but it doesn't prevent my from working. However,
 each time I log onto my computer, the Mail Ticker moves back to the centre
 of the screen.

 Is there a way to get the Mail Ticker to stay where I put it?

The position of the mail ticker is saved on exit of The Bat! into the
registry. There are are only two reasons that I can think of (I may be
wrong)

(1) The Bat! is not exiting properly

(2) You don't have write permission for the registry.

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Re: Mail Ticker

2002-06-15 Thread Geoff Lane

On 15 June 2002, 13:25, David Elliott wrote:

 The position of the mail ticker is saved on exit of The Bat! into the
 registry. There are are only two reasons that I can think of (I may be
 wrong)

 (1) The Bat! is not exiting properly

 (2) You don't have write permission for the registry.
~~~

Hi David, and thanks.

To ensure that TB is exiting properly, I chose Exit from the Message
menu, then restarted TB. The Mail Ticker returned to the centre of the
screen.

I logged off as myself and logged on as Administrator, then
repositioned the MT -- the settings stuck. When I logged back on as
myself, the MT was at the position I left it while logged on as
Administrator. However, I'm now able to reposition the MT as any user
and the setting only affects the current user.

Strange ...

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Re[2]: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Peter,

PP For exactly the situation you described I _do_ use 'Mail ticker' :-)

It's a good solution if you can stand the mailticker, which
unfortunately I can't :-)

So here's what I've done: For the mail that doesn't require my
immediate attention (like this list), I've told the sorting office to
flag all incoming messages as 'read'. I don't use threading, so
whereever the cursor is when I look in the folder, is the last message
that I'd already seen. It's not ideal, but it keeps the Bat-icon from
grabbing my attention al the time.

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Re: Mail Ticker

2002-06-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Geoff

On 15 June 2002 at 13:49:09 +0100 (which was 13:49 where I live) Geoff Lane
wrote and made these points

 I logged off as myself and logged on as Administrator, then repositioned
 the MT -- the settings stuck. When I logged back on as myself, the MT was
 at the position I left it while logged on as Administrator.

That i find strange.


 However, I'm now able to reposition the MT as any user and the setting
 only affects the current user.

That is what I expect. The settings are saved per user. I think that you can
find them under Hkey_Current_User\Sortware\RIT\TheBat!.










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How do I tell TheBat! which programs to start for Telnet and FTP links?

2002-06-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg

I have more than one program that can handle Telnet, and more than one
that can handle FTP. Wouldn't you know it, TheBat! starts the wrong
program for each type of transfer.

How do I tell TheBat! which program to start for Telnet and what
program to start for FTP?


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The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread utomo

Hi,

I have some suggestion for the bat:
1. Reply to (mainly in mailing list) better if using the original
mailing list name, not the author name, sometime this can confuse
people. 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account. 
3. Add NAV and McAfee virus checking plugin 
4. Add more help/explanation about PGP, now I think not enough. 5. Add
option to configure toolbar, including the icon so more familiar to new
user. 6. Add Function to auto route the smtp according to our active
ISP. Look at Auto route from mailutilities. So we did not need to change
the setting when we change the dialup. Others

Another suggestion:
Please add [TheBat] or [TUBDL] title in the subject of the mailing list
message, so we can easily manage the message. 

And please if possible release the Beta version of the Portable Bat
ASAP.

Regards,

Utomo



 




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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello utomo,

u 1. Reply to (mainly in mailing list) better if using the original
u mailing list name, not the author name, sometime this can confuse
u people.

I really find this behaviour very annoying, and I get around this problem
with a reply macro like this:

%TO=%TO=listname [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In this case, TB dies not handle correcly the List-* kludges.

u 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account.

Would be GREAT.




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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Deborah W

On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:10:03 AM, utomo wrote:

u 1. Reply to (mainly in mailing list) better if using the original
u mailing list name, not the author name, sometime this can confuse
u people. 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account.

Ah, I asked about this about a week ago - so I know how to do this!

In the Account Properties box, go to Templates,  then into the Reply
template. At the bottom there's a check-box which says Do not use
From name for Reply to or something similar to that. You check that
box,  TB will now use the email address name in the To: field rather
than the name of the person who wrote the post you're replying to :-)

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Re[3]: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Deborah W

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 2:26:27 PM, Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote:

DvRC I don't use threading, so
DvRC whereever the cursor is when I look in the folder, is the last message
DvRC that I'd already seen.

Since I upgraded to 1.6q I think.I've noticed this doesn't
always work any more. Sometimes, instead of the last message I viewed
being highlighted, the highlighting moves back to the first message in
the list. Anyone else noticed that?

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Re: Full-width preview pane bug?

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Costas,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write the following on Friday, June 14, 2002 at 4:12:46 PM.

CP Do you mean that you can drag the divider back down to its normal
CP position? I cannot do that once I change from one message to
CP another in the preview pane, unless I change the Split Mode to
CP something else and then back to full-width Preview pane.

Yep, I put the divider as far up as possible, then went to another
msg, then pulled it back down.  No problem.

Just did it again, still no problem.

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Re: How do I tell TheBat! which programs to start for Telnet and FTP links?

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Daniel,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60h) Educational
to write the following on Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:01:39 AM.

DG I have more than one program that can handle Telnet, and more than
DG one that can handle FTP. Wouldn't you know it, TheBat! starts the
DG wrong program for each type of transfer.

DG How do I tell TheBat! which program to start for Telnet and what
DG program to start for FTP?

I think TB will be using the system default. (the same one IE is
configured for)

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi utomo,

@16 June 2002, 21:10:03 -0700 (05:10 UK time) utomo wrote in
000601c214eb$b49ad030$c8f192ca@microsoft">mid:000601c214eb$b49ad030$c8f192ca@microsoft

 I have some suggestion for the bat:
 1. Reply to (mainly in mailing list) better if using the original
 mailing list name, not the author name, sometime this can confuse
 people.

TB already has a switch in the Account properties Templates | Reply
tab to turn off the FROM name with Reply-To addresses.

Users of TB and TBUDL have a much better option. That which I have
used here. It allows replies to an individual on a list without any
confusion about whose address is whose. This has been thrashed out
*dozens* of times and this is by *far* the best solution.

The Bat! gives you the flexibility to redefine the structure of the To
line as you wish in your reply template. You may do as you please, as
can the other users.

 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account.

I don't understand what you mean. I have at least 200 folders in my
main account and 235k messages. Why would I want to keep them in a
single folder?

 3. Add NAV and McAfee virus checking plugin

That's down to Norton and McAfee, not RITlabs. Anyway, this is really
not the place to make such a suggestion since this is the publicly run
User Discussion List and not a direct route to the developers.

 4. Add more help/explanation about PGP, now I think not enough.

Support for this is available from pgp-basics on YahooGroups. There is
a lot of information there on the subject of TB and PGP.

 5. Add option to configure toolbar, including the icon so more
 familiar to new user.

This is already known to be a feature for V2. The programmers have
told us often before that the current software structure can't support
definable toolbars.

 6. Add Function to auto route the smtp according to our active ISP.
 Look at Auto route from mailutilities. So we did not need to change
 the setting when we change the dialup. Others

TB currently does this per-account. I'm not clear how that would fit
in with the current architecture. If you get involved with the V2
betas early enough, you may be able to influence the adoption of some
kind of feature like this in that version.

 Another suggestion:
 Please add [TheBat] or [TUBDL] title in the subject of the mailing list
 message, so we can easily manage the message.

No. Never. Period. I campaign for its removal wherever possible since
there are much better ways of managing (Reply-To) when you're a TB
user and such additions only ever unnecessarily inflate subject texts.

 And please if possible release the Beta version of the Portable Bat
 ASAP.

Wrong list. Please subscribe to TBBETA for such discussions. I repeat
this is the UDL not RITlabs or TBBETA

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Luigi.

At 10:13 AM on Saturday, June 15, 2002 you wrote the
following about [The bat 1.60q suggestion]:

u 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account.

LR Would be GREAT.

  I believe you can do that now. Just filter all incoming
  mail from all your accounts to the one folder of your
  choice.

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@15 June 2002, 15:17:31 +0100 Deborah W wrote in
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  TB will now use the email address name in the To: field rather
 than the name of the person who wrote the post you're replying to :-)

And the advantage of that when you are addressing an individual is ...?

Personally, I *like* to see who is addressing who within the list. I
agree that leaving the name untouched is misleading, but the ... on
(list) construct is vastly superior to either addressing method.

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Re: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Deborah,

@15 June 2002, 15:18:50 +0100 Deborah W wrote in
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 .. Sometimes, instead of the last message I viewed being
 highlighted, the highlighting moves back to the first message in the
 list. Anyone else noticed that?

Only when the last message viewed has been purged or deleted... hmmm.
I'll watch out for that.

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey utomo,

My MUA believes you used Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
to write the following on Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 12:10:03 AM.

u Hi,

u I have some suggestion for the bat:

Ok, but this is a User discussion list, no guarentee that the authors
are reading... (they do sometimes though)  I think the correct place
for Feature Requests is the Bug Reports: link at the bottom

u 3. Add NAV and McAfee virus checking plugin 

As I recall, it is the AV software company that writes the plugin...

u 4. Add more help/explanation about PGP, now I think not enough.

More documentation is frequently asked for, and it is much better than
it has been.  Did you also check out the FAQ?  I don't use PGP, but a
number of people on this list do, so you could ask here.

u 5. Add option to configure toolbar, including the icon so more
u familiar to new user.

I think this feature request is in already.

u 6. Add Function to auto route the smtp according to our active ISP.
u Look at Auto route from mailutilities. So we did not need to change
u the setting when we change the dialup. Others

u Another suggestion:

u Please add [TheBat] or [TUBDL] title in the subject of the mailing
u list message, so we can easily manage the message.

Look in the TBUDL Mission Statement you got when you joined the
list, or I think you can also get it from the FAQ.  You don't need
[LIST] to manage, that is just how one type of list does it.

u And please if possible release the Beta version of the Portable Bat
u ASAP.

u Regards,

u Utomo



 



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Re[2]: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Marck,

 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account.

MDP I don't understand what you mean. I have at least 200 folders in my
MDP main account and 235k messages. Why would I want to keep them in a
MDP single folder?

A single INBOX for every account in some cases is useful, expecially when you
don't care about separating the inbox.


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Re[2]: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Marck,

MDP Personally, I *like* to see who is addressing who within the list. I
MDP agree that leaving the name untouched is misleading, but the ... on
MDP (list) construct is vastly superior to either addressing method.

Yes, but this has a drawback in the lookup feature.

If I write an email to you after this one, I would star typing Marck in the
recipient field of a new message and TB would complete by adding
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Re[2]: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Deborah W

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 3:39:07 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP And the advantage of that when you are addressing an individual is ...?

I wouldn't use it for an email to an individual. On an email list, it
allows you sort a mailbox by which email list the item has been sent
to, or to filter by the addressee, which is something I do quite
frequently, as I'm the moderator on several lists  often get email
sent directly to me with the name of the list in the subject line; if
I filter by subject line or kludges, the emails go into the mailbox
for that list, when I prefer to keep them separate so I can deal with
them first.

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Re[2]: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Deborah W

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 3:40:20 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 .. Sometimes, instead of the last message I viewed being
 highlighted, the highlighting moves back to the first message in the
 list. Anyone else noticed that?

MDP Only when the last message viewed has been purged or deleted... hmmm.
MDP I'll watch out for that.

No, it seems to be happening sporadically even when the last message
viewed is still happily sitting there :-/. Only started after I
installed the upgrade.

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Re[4]: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Lynn Turriff



Saturday, June 15, 2002, 7:18:50 AM, you wrote:

DW Since I upgraded to 1.6q I think.I've noticed this doesn't
DW always work any more. Sometimes, instead of the last message I
DW viewed
DW being highlighted, the highlighting moves back to the first
DW message in
DW the list. Anyone else noticed that?

DW Deborah

hmmm .. I'm noticing it in h ... it's annoying, but I
suppose I was thinking I would eventually fix it by
accident.

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Easy of use

2002-06-15 Thread utomo

I have some point that the bat must consider it.
One of the important one: It is EASY OF USE.

Let test this way:
1. Ask somebody who never operate an email client, ask them to operate
TheBat, Outlook, Outlook express, Netscape and Opera. Without any
instruction or with very small instruction. 
2. Ask somebody who can operate one of the email client but never try
the bat, or backward somebody who can use the bat but never use other
email client. To try the email client.
3. After somebody using email client ask them some function. Simple
medium or advanced. Others.

After that ask them:
How easy the bat compared to other email client.
How long it takes to learn about main function
After that how easy we can remember a function which we ever use. When
we need it next time. Or how many times we forget about some function
when we needed again. How easy we can guess a icon meaning, or where
some function si hiding behind, etc.

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Luigi,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write the following on Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:55:52 AM.

LR A single INBOX for every account in some cases is useful,
LR expecially when you don't care about separating the inbox.

I don't do it for *every* account, but I have 3-4 that I set up a
quick filter to move everything into one account's inbox.

Act1
Inbox
Act2
Inbox
Act3
Inbox

So for Act23, you just set up a filter to move mail into Act1's
inbox.  Quick and easy to do if that is what you want (v1.60 even
updated how attachments are handled [if they are not stored in line
with the message]).

From What's new in The Bat! 1.60?
[*] Moving messages with external attachments across accounts with
adjusting location of the attachments

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Luigi,

@15 June 2002, 16:57:32 +0200 (15:57 UK time) Luigi Rosa wrote in
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 Yes, but this has a drawback in the lookup feature.

Yes, but you've missed the point. The addition of  on TBUDL negates
that problem.

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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Luigi,

@15 June 2002, 16:55:52 +0200 (15:55 UK time) Luigi Rosa wrote in
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MDP I don't understand what you mean. I have at least 200 folders in my
MDP main account and 235k messages. Why would I want to keep them in a
MDP single folder?

 A single INBOX for every account in some cases is useful, expecially when you
 don't care about separating the inbox.

In that case, create a common folder called Inbox - all and filter
all mail to it. It's pretty simple with TB :-).

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RE: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread utomo

Thanks deborah,. I mean in the default setting of the bat
If I am not wrong I think about this since last year, I forget if I
already suggest it or not.
But since now I am subscribe to this mailing list better to suggest it
again

Regards,

Utomo

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Subject: Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion


On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:10:03 AM, utomo wrote:

u 1. Reply to (mainly in mailing list) better if using the original 
u mailing list name, not the author name, sometime this can confuse 
u people. 2. Add option to use single folder for all email account.

Ah, I asked about this about a week ago - so I know how to do this!

In the Account Properties box, go to Templates,  then into the Reply
template. At the bottom there's a check-box which says Do not use From
name for Reply to or something similar to that. You check that box, 
TB will now use the email address name in the To: field rather than the
name of the person who wrote the post you're replying to :-)

Deborah





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Re[2]: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Tim,

TM LR A single INBOX for every account in some cases is useful,
TM LR expecially when you don't care about separating the inbox.

TM I don't do it for *every* account, but I have 3-4 that I set up a
TM quick filter to move everything into one account's inbox.

Of course you can do it by filering messages, linke fixing the To field, and so
on. But a direct delivery to the correct box would speed up the process and
reduce the database fragmentation.



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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Marck!

On Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 4:36:19 PM you wrote:

 I don't understand what you mean. I have at least 200 folders in my
 main account and 235k messages. Why would I want to keep them in a
 single folder?

Well, if he wants it, why not use a common folder to which every mail
of every account's Inbox is filtered?

 Support for this is available from pgp-basics on YahooGroups. There is
 a lot of information there on the subject of TB and PGP.

Actually TB! isn't the right place at all to explain PGP in more than
five or six lines. If one wants to understand PGP - what I really
endorse, as everybody here may already know - read the PDF manual
provided by NAI and being downloadable from Imad's PGP site. I
especially recommend the Introduction to PGP by Phil Zimmerman,
which is available separately from Imad's page or mine look for
Computer/Sicherheit/PGP).



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Re: Inbox - Known Folder? WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS THINKING?

2002-06-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Miles!

On Friday, June 14, 2002 at 9:03:31 PM you wrote:

 It boggles the mind that several WEEKS after this (potentially very
 useful) feature is implemented there's still NOTHING on the updated
 program's FAQ.

The FAQ does not come from RITLabs.

 And please, please don't tell us that they don't have enough resources to
 hire a full-time,. professional help/FAQ writer. If TB truly has millions
 of users, by now Ritlabs is extremely wealthy, especially considering the
 exchange rate of western currencies for theirs...

Ever heard of the difference between number of downloads, number of
copies in use, number of customers and number of paid copies
around?

I don't know if RITLabs is wealthy already or not. There are a lot of
things to be factored into this equation - one of them being interes
rates, another being payback money.

 Lo and behold, this morning I also get a message from Ritlabs stating the
 changes since 1.53. Wow, how many weeks has it been since the first
 iteration of 1.60 and we're getting this NOW?

Yes, it was asked for.

 I'm sticking to 1.53... Do others feel the same way?

Maybe, although not me.
Are you sticking to 1.53 because it satisfies your needs or because
you are pissed by RITLabs' communication skills?

 Call me crazy but in my humble, non-geeky opinion what WOULD have made sense
 - and created a lot less havoc among TB users, AND generated a lot more
 business in these spam-crazed times - would have been for Ritlabs to create
 a folder called unknown for all the spam... and to implement an easy,
 customer-friendly way to customize it.

Which is the Inbox folder - if you use Known or filters to sort your
known associates' messages into other folders.



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Re: Easy of use

2002-06-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello utomo!

On Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 7:09:59 AM you wrote:

 1. Ask somebody who never operate an email client, ask them to operate
 TheBat, Outlook, Outlook express, Netscape and Opera. Without any
 instruction or with very small instruction.

In this scenario - tested - they are all not very easy to use, but the
learning curve for TB! is slightly better.

 2. Ask somebody who can operate one of the email client but never try
 the bat, or backward somebody who can use the bat but never use other
 email client. To try the email client.

TB! wins out for basic functionality. It will do even better if people
want more than just create and read messages. Tested.

 3. After somebody using email client ask them some function. Simple
 medium or advanced. Others.

I've used Opera's mail client for testing purposes. I've used Eudora
for more than a year and AOL for some weeks.I've used Agent for some
time as a newsreader (still unbeaten) and a few weeks for e-mail
before finding TB! I have to use OE at work - actually I just
converted to Entourage, the Mac version of LookOut. I once had to use
Netscape on Mac.

Guess what, TB! is much easier for basic features and far above all of
them for advanced features. Main problem is, TB! has so much features,
you won't know all of them in years. Tested.

Apart from some features that sold me on TB! it was it's ease of use -
it took me only three days to test TB! and gladly pay for it.

BUT, I've long since given up on being a computer Messiah. If people
want OE/O/Entourage ... etc. let them use it. If they have the time
and interest I show them TB! or refer them to the trial version. Most
of them get sold on TB!


PS: One important thing to understand my point, I think the Macintosh
is worse than Win9x/2K when it comes to usability.


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Re: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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Daniel Van Rooijen [Copycats] [DVR] wrote:

DVR So here's what I've done: For the mail that doesn't require my
DVR immediate attention (like this list), I've told the sorting
DVR office to flag all incoming messages as 'read'. I don't use
DVR threading, so whereever the cursor is when I look in the folder,
DVR is the last message that I'd already seen. It's not ideal, but it
DVR keeps the Bat-icon from grabbing my attention al the time.

I, like Peter, use the mail ticker to indicate to me when messages
that I wish to read sooner than later have come in. I dislike the
ticker sprawling across the screen and I don't really wish to read any
of it's content either, so I set it to thin view, use a small font,
and disable autozoom. I then make it as thin as possible which reduces
it to a small bar in the left lower corner of my screen.

If you configure the ticker in the same way and still prefer your
solution because you dislike the ticker which is quite inconspicuous
as I have mine, then it's really odd.

The 'I dislike the ticker' statements followed by the description of
awkward work-arounds to problems that the ticker would *much* better
handle is a mystery to me, especially since the ticker doesn't have to
be conspicuous and in the way.

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Deleting all messages in all folders

2002-06-15 Thread Claude Renaud

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I have an account with several sub folders in my inbox.
Every day I back up my messages from my computer and I import them at work
to read them there.
When I come back home al my messages are still there.
I would like to know if I could suppress all of them in a one easy step
rather than highlighting each folder and press ctrl-del and answer ok to
the question : do you want to 


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Re: Deleting all messages in all folders

2002-06-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Claude,

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:27:09 +0200GMT (15-6-02, 18:27 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

CR I have an account with several sub folders in my inbox. Every day
CR I back up my messages from my computer and I import them at work
CR to read them there. When I come back home al my messages are still
CR there.

There are three options to delete your messages (semi)automatically.

Set the folder properties to keep messages for 1 day ( or 0 days) and
purge and compress on exit. Now your messages are deleted as soon as
they're one day old.

Set the folder properties to keep 1 message in the folder. (Don't know
whether zero messages is valid) and purge and compress on exit. Now
you're messages are deleted as soon as you exit TB.

Both options have the advantage that they're fully automatic, but
that's their disadvantage too. The messages get also deleted when you
don't backup. (you're ill, on holiday, whatever)

The third option is to create a batch file (that's dos talk) to delete
the messages.tbb and messages.tbi of the respective folders. Create a
shortcut on your desktop to this batch file and you can delete all of
your messages whenever you feel like it. When you're not familiar with
batch files, post the folders you want to get rid of, including the
full path of your account and I'll take a look at it.

The latter way is best to be done without TB active, butt IIRC TB can
be closed from a batch file.

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Re[2]: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Joseph N.

   On Saturday, June 15, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote in
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ACM I, like Peter, use the mail ticker to indicate to me when messages
ACM that I wish to read sooner than later have come in. 


Allie,

Some time back there was a thread about the inordinate use of system
resources by the flying bat indicator in the systray. How does the
tickler affect resources?

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Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Pete Milne



Replying to your message of Saturday, June 15, 2002, 9:56:08 AM:

DH I've used Agent for some
DH time as a newsreader (still unbeaten)

Dick,

I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post.
Would you suggest Agent for this application or should I stick with Opera
(don't really like it).  Whatever I use must be a very light user of
resources.

Any other suggestions?

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Re: Flying tray icon

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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JN does the tickler affect resources?

On my system, it seems to use negligible resources since when I bring
up the taskmanager, TB!'s cpu resource usage remains at zero when the
ticker is on and scrolling.

The systray icon animation also doesn't use significant resources when
free of bugs as it seems to be here. If I have both enabled then I
see the resource oscillate between 0 and 1% cpu usage.

The complaint about excessive cpu resource consumption by the icon
animation was secondary to a bug.

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Re: How do I tell TheBat! which programs to start for Telnet and FTP links?

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Adam,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60p) Personal
to write the following on Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 1:25:07 PM.

DG How do I tell TheBat! which program to start for Telnet and what
DG program to start for FTP?

TM I think TB will be using the system default. (the same one IE is
TM configured for)

A Would you have any idea how to change it?

A I can't see where IE sets either program.

Now that I look, I can't find it either.  S, speculating here...
TB probably calls 'telnet' and whatever is in the path first
responds.

Nope, just checked (I like putty).

I put putty.exe in the first dir
of my path and renamed it to telnet.  Then I brought up a cmd window
and ran 'telnet 10.11.12.13' and as expected, up came putty.

I then created this link telnet://10.11.12.13 and double clicked.
Unfortunately, it ran c:\WinNT\System32\telnet.exe :-(

So, now I am guessing it calls telnet from %OS% or some such thing.

I wonder if anyone else has any thoughts?

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Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Pete,

on Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:23:25 -0600GMT (15.06.02, 20:23 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PM I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post.

PM Any other suggestions?

I don't use newsgroups too often, but when I do I find Gravity 2.50
fulfilling all my needs. It is great for downloading and reading news
offline. It isn't supported by the developers any more, and I don't know if
it's still on any server, so all I can offer is to send you the .zip file
(~1MB) via PM.

Have a good time. :)
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Re: How do I tell TheBat! which programs to start for Telnet and FTP links?

2002-06-15 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Tim,
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:17:39 -0400, you wrote:

 A Would you have any idea how to change it?
 
 A I can't see where IE sets either program.
 
 Now that I look, I can't find it either.  S, speculating here...
 TB probably calls 'telnet' and whatever is in the path first
 responds.
 
 Nope, just checked (I like putty).

I use secureCRT at work, and there are some switches in that that allow you to
set it as the Default Telnet client.  I think there is a system property
somewhere that allows you to set it, but it's not in the usual locations... I'll
run a trace on SecureCRT on monday, and see what it sets.

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Re: How do I tell TheBat! which programs to start for Telnet and FTP links?

2002-06-15 Thread Steve Caine



Saturday, June 15, 2002, 12:17:39 PM, you wrote: 

 [...]

DG How do I tell TheBat! which program to start for Telnet and what
DG program to start for FTP?

 [...]

 So, now I am guessing it calls telnet from %OS% or some such thing.

 I wonder if anyone else has any thoughts?

I did some poking around in the registry.  At least on W2K,
it appears to be in

  HKCR\telnet\shell\open\command

for telnet and probably similarly for ftp.

Steve.

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Re[2]: Mail Ticker Not Working

2002-06-15 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Julian,

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 8:57:25 AM, you wrote:
JBL It sounds more like a problem with the display criteria for the
JBL ticker. If you right-click on it (you will need to set it to display
JBL Always first, you will see a menu item for Messages. Go to that, and
JBL check that it should be displaying all message types, and make sure
JBL that the time limits are not set so short that the Ticker never
JBL appears.

JBL Julian

Cheers!  That was it - I had unticked all the different priorities
under messages but now its working fine.

Thanks again!


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Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Peter,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write the following on Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 3:19:46 PM.

PM Hi Pete,

PM on Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:23:25 -0600GMT (15.06.02, 20:23 +0200GMT here),
PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PM I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post.

PM Any other suggestions?

PM I don't use newsgroups too often, but when I do I find Gravity 2.50
PM fulfilling all my needs. It is great for downloading and reading news
PM offline. It isn't supported by the developers any more, and I don't know if
PM it's still on any server, so all I can offer is to send you the .zip file
PM (~1MB) via PM.

First link on Google for 'news gravity' is http://cws.internet.com/news-gravity.html

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Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Peter.

At 3:19 PM on Saturday, June 15, 2002 you wrote the
following about [Newsreader]:

PM I use Opera newsreader, it is quite basic, all I do is read and post.

PM Any other suggestions


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Re: How do I tell TheBat! which programs to start for Telnet and FTP links?

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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TM I then created this link telnet://10.11.12.13 and double clicked.
TM Unfortunately, it ran c:\WinNT\System32\telnet.exe :-(

You'll likely need to adjust the associations, either via the registry
of through the 'file types' configuration panel.

Open any explorer folder and go to the Tools(Win2k/XP) or View(Win9x)
menu and select 'Folder Options'.

Hit the File Types tab.

Find Extension: N/A (NONE)  URL:File Transfer Protocol
N/A (NONE)  URL:Telnet Protocol

Select each and hit the advanced(Win2k/XP) or edit(Win9x) button.
In the popup, select 'open' hit the 'edit' button. There you can
change the path to that of your preferred client.

Do this if setting this association via the system Internet Options
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Common Trash Folder

2002-06-15 Thread Robbie Robertson

I have TB v1.60q just installed. I have set up Common folders that
receive filtered messages from two accounts. I notice that there is a
separate Common Trash folder.

Is there a way to have *all* accounts use this common trash folder
when I manually delete messages? it sure would be handy to only have
to deal with one trash folder instead of three. (I am keep TB running
24 hrs a day)


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Re: Common Trash Folder

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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RR Is there a way to have *all* accounts use this common trash folder
RR when I manually delete messages? it sure would be handy to only
RR have to deal with one trash folder instead of three. (I am keep TB
RR running 24 hrs a day)

The only way to do this would be to create, for each account, a manual
filter that moves messages to the common trash folder. Assign the
filter a shortcut that triggers it (eg CTRL+Alt+T). After that,
whenever you wish to delete a message, hit the shortcut, instead of
delete.

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Re: Common Trash Folder

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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ACM whenever you wish to delete a message, hit the shortcut, instead of
ACM delete.

JT But this does not work on Common Folders.  Perhaps this is a wish.  I
JT wish shortcuts worked on Common Folders.  Does anybody else?

For the common folders, just hit delete. The deleted messages will
end up in the common trash folder.

I do agree with you though that manual filters should be made to work
on common folder messages.

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Re[2]: Common Trash Folder

2002-06-15 Thread John Thomas

ACM whenever you wish to delete a message, hit the shortcut, instead of
ACM delete.

But this does not work on Common Folders.  Perhaps this is a wish.  I
wish shortcuts worked on Common Folders.  Does anybody else?

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Re: Common Trash Folder

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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ACM whenever you wish to delete a message, hit the shortcut, instead
ACM of delete.

JT But this does not work on Common Folders.

It doesn't need to. Just hit delete for common folders and those
messages will end up in the common trash folder.

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RE: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread utomo

 -Original Message-
 From: Dierk Haasis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:40 AM
 To: Marck D Pearlstone
 Subject: Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion
 
 
 Hello Marck!
 
 On Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 4:36:19 PM you wrote:
 
  I don't understand what you mean. I have at least 200 folders in my 
  main account and 235k messages. Why would I want to keep them in a 
  single folder?
 
 Well, if he wants it, why not use a common folder to which 
 every mail of every account's Inbox is filtered?

I think 200 folder is not so common (mainly people will have less than
20 Folders). Is that correct 200 folder but only contains 235K (I think
it wasting).
Last time when I use MS outlook I have only about 15 folders with about
100MB (yes MB) email.
And my MS outlook start suffering :(

Common folder is OK, but it means we must process it twice.
First process it so all message go to common folder, after that
Process it again accoding to our rules, so it can go to correct folder
for each topics or rules. 
It means wasting time and resources. 

 
  Support for this is available from pgp-basics on 
 YahooGroups. There is 
  a lot of information there on the subject of TB and PGP.
 
 Actually TB! isn't the right place at all to explain PGP in 
 more than five or six lines. If one wants to understand PGP - 
 what I really endorse, as everybody here may already know - 
 read the PDF manual provided by NAI and being downloadable 
 from Imad's PGP site. I especially recommend the 
 Introduction to PGP by Phil Zimmerman, which is available 
 separately from Imad's page or mine look for Computer/Sicherheit/PGP).
 
I did not ask about common PGP tutorial, but PGP on the Bat
- how to get the key
- if we using other PGP (example we use retail PGP) what to do/setting.,
ETC
- what to do with private key and public key in the bat
- how to send message with or without encryption in the bat
And something like that. 


 
 
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RE: Easy of use

2002-06-15 Thread utomo

 -Original Message-
 From: Dierk Haasis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:56 AM
 To: utomo
 Subject: Re: Easy of use

CUT 
 
 Guess what, TB! is much easier for basic features and far 
 above all of them for advanced features. Main problem is, TB! 
 has so much features, you won't know all of them in years. Tested.

I agree, sometimes too many which we did not need it for normal use.
So my suggestion better if we can manage the menu: to display common
function and then hide other function to advanced (setting/function).
Don't reduce the function, keep adding more and more function.

Regards,

Utomo

 




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RE: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread utomo

NewsPro http://www.usenetopia.com
Newsgrabber




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test

2002-06-15 Thread Angel





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Re: The bat 1.60q suggestion

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message 000601c21549$07d10550$d1f192ca@microsoft">mid:000601c21549$07d10550$d1f192ca@microsoft,
Utomo [U] wrote:

U Common folder is OK, but it means we must process it twice. First
U process it so all message go to common folder, after that Process
U it again accoding to our rules, so it can go to correct folder for
U each topics or rules. It means wasting time and resources.

I can't help you here since TB!'s current makeup will not satisfy your
needs exactly as you want to. If you're prepared to change your
methods to one more TB! friendly then I'd be happy to help.

U I did not ask about common PGP tutorial, but PGP on the Bat
U - how to get the key
U - if we using other PGP (example we use retail PGP) what to do/setting.,
U ETC
U - what to do with private key and public key in the bat
U - how to send message with or without encryption in the bat
U And something like that.

TB! uses plugins that provide simple, straightforward hooks to
PGP/GnuPG which are installed separately. If you wish to know how to
use PGP in TB!, you need to know how to use PGP in general.

I agree wholeheartedly with Dierk here. Read the PGP manual and you'll
be OK. Another thing you can do is to join the PGP-Basics list where
using PGP with TB! is often discussed.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Funny the discussions are not usually about how to actually use PGP
with TB!. They're usually about installing the plugin and how to use
PGP itself. The plug-in just works. There are some macros that you can
use to help with autosigning messages but again, these are pretty
straightforward.

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Re: Easy of use

2002-06-15 Thread Adam

Hello utomo,

Sunday, June 16, 2002, 1:15:21 PM, you wrote:

u I agree, sometimes too many which we did not need it for normal use.
u So my suggestion better if we can manage the menu: to display common
u function and then hide other function to advanced (setting/function).
u Don't reduce the function, keep adding more and more function.

No, no. Let that not be. Such a despicable behaviour originating in
Microsoft Office applications.

If there is something you find wrong with some menus, just spell it
out.  I don't think we need to add an option in some weird place to
skewer the menu system like that.

I think you can find all the common functions on the Tool Bars.  Yes,
no?

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Re: Newsreader

2002-06-15 Thread Adam

Hello Peter,

Saturday, June 15, 2002, 4:49:46 PM, you wrote:

PM I don't use newsgroups too often, but when I do I find Gravity 2.50
PM fulfilling all my needs.

Or a little more topical, can you direct it to use TB for news
replies?

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 Adam



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test

2002-06-15 Thread Angel

test #2



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