Re[2]: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Chris Weaven

Hi Jonathan,

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 16:29 your local time, which was 22:29 my
local time, Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote;

JA>  (that is --)

As you can see from the below, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for
that :-)

JA> That is a signature delimiter. When you use that, anything below it is
JA> considered signature, and some email clients will respond accordingly.
JA> When signing with PGP, the signature delimiter gets replaced with
JA> .

PGP - This is something I've been looking into and may need to start a
new thread on it. I'm thinking of adding PGP to my messages, but is it
more hassle than it's worth? ie. sending the key to friends etc.
Sorry if this is a bit ignorant, but I've no knowledge on PGP at all :-(

Thanks,

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Re: Setting a rule for no To, Cc or Bcc ..

2002-07-16 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer

Hello Clemens,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:19:53 AM, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote:


> Hello The Bat! ML,

>   How can I make a rule, that filters out all mail with no to (emtpy
>   To: ) or CC, BCC ...

>   Would be another small victory in the Fight for SPAM ...

well ... it's as easy as it coult be ... just filter all mails out,
where the recipient has no '@' in it ...

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Personal Address Book

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Berger

When opening the Personal Address Book, it opens with a + box at left.
You then have to left click on the box to turn it into a - box and to
open up the subfolders. Can this be set as the default?

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MS Exchange LDAP Service

2002-07-16 Thread Tacker, Markus

Hoi TBUDL,

our corp. email service is base on MS Exchange and Outlook usage.
But we all know which email client is the best...

My problem is the LDAP-feature.
I don't know what to use as search base.
When searching i do not receive any results (connection is working).

Can anyone give me a tip, or a sample search base?

greetinx
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Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)

2002-07-16 Thread Blarp

Hi Thomas,

TF> No, you cannot just run only one filter.

I suspected as much after going through all the menu options. Sigh.
It's a really handy feature when you've just created a rule (filter)
and want to run it against your Inbox. One of the few things Outlook
Express is better at. (FWIW, Becky 2 can't do it either AFAIK.)

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dwight,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:25:44 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 03:25 +0700 GMT),
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

DAC> I think always. The games were more primitive of course back in days
DAC> when computers required their own huge air conditioned rooms and
DAC> ground to a halt on days when there were brown outs, and backups were
DAC> reel to reel, etc, and you wrote your programs on a keypunch machine.

That's how I started. Actually we didn't have brown outs or other such
problems, because that was a prestigious (for the government) research
facility, but that didn't make the computers less vulnerable.

DAC> But there were games.

But the computers were not *designed* to entertain. Programmers never
grow up - so we built some games. It was a "don't let the boss see it"
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Michael,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:24:44 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 10:24 +0700 GMT),
Michael Thompson wrote:

TF>>> How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a
TF>>> directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.

MT> I think this program you refer to is "Magic Folders" available from
MT> http://pc-magic.com .

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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Peter,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:20:22 +0200 GMT (17/07/02, 02:20 +0700 GMT),
Peter Fjelsten wrote:

PF> I am sorry to say that I haven't tried it. I will hand on my master
PF> thesis on Friday so I am fully backed up.

Good luck!

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Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Blarp,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:31:58 -0700 GMT (17/07/02, 11:31 +0700 GMT),
Blarp wrote:

B> Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' "Apply message
B> rule now" that can run a specific rule (filter) against a selected
B> folder or all folders manually? The "refilter" action is not what I
B> want since it runs all filters in a category, not just a particular
B> one.

No, you cannot just run only one filter. The work-around I
use is to mark this filter "manual only" and then re-filter the
folder, choosing "manual filters only".

It doesn't work in the one account were I do have a manual filter
(which I invoke with a short-cut). So, your suggestion is a good
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Re: Filter signatures when writing to file

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Ricardo,

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 2:31:48 AM you [RMR] wrote (at least in
part):

RMR> I would like to cut the signatures (everything below the '-- ')
RMR> before writing the archive, just like the %QUOTES macro does, but
RMR> obviously without the Quote prefix in every line.

If you don't already have a regular expression applied to your quotes
macro use this as a starting point:

%SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(^-+ eGroups.*~-~>.*-*_->$\s+){0,1}%-
(^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
(.*?)(^(- --\s*\n|--\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)'%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%text'%SUBPATT='4'

and insert it instead of '%Text'.
If you already have a regular expression for quoting you're happy
with: take it, remove the '%Quotes="' and the final '"' and put the
rest in your save template, replacing the '%Text'.

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Re: [OT] I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Ben,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:35:03 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 06:35 +0700 GMT),
Ben Kennish wrote:

BK> Please please please use a browser based on the Gecko engine (like
BK> Mozilla or K-Meleon) to give web site designers (such as me) an actual
BK> standard that we can work to without fear of browsers such as this!

I am currently testing Mozilla 1.0 as an alternative to IE 6. What I
like is tabbed browsing, but I am not so sure about the security. Why
do I say this: In IE, I have many choices for my settings. In Mozilla,
there are much less. For example, when I open a web page that contains
a PDF file, IE will ask me whether I will allow Active-X while Mozilla
just opens the app on my computer without asking me. Where is that
setting in Mozilla?

Weird enough, I feel safer browsing with IE than with Mozilla.

f'up2tbot.

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Re: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Nick,

On 16-07-2002 23:28, you [N] wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> How is this achieved and are there any basic rules I need to follow to
>> have one myself?

N> Not really.

Yes!

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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Dwight,

On 16-07-2002 22:44, you [D] wrote in
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D> congrats and good luck. Celebrate Saturday, don't fiddle with e-mail
D> til Sunday.

I will go on a well-deserved holiday for a month. I have flagged your
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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Michael,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:32:28 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 09:17 my local time),
you [MT] wrote:

MT> varients should still contain something in similar fashioon to the
MT> origional, and still should be realised.

I think Norton's Bloodhound technology does this

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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Deborah,

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 22:00 GMT +0100, aliens probed Deborah W
[DW] and found:

DW> Wellsome of the people who are in the Trekker AB are also in
DW> my personal AB, but most aren't, so it's more cluttered with them
DW> all in one place

In your trekker group properties, select "Hide items if not explicitly
selected."  That will prevent the members of the trekker group from
showing up in your main AB list.

DW> plus some of them use a different email address for the
DW> Trekker project than they do for personal emails,

The above suggestion isn't perfect as you'll see if you play with it
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Apply filter now? (REPOST)

2002-07-16 Thread Blarp

Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' "Apply message
rule now" that can run a specific rule (filter) against a selected
folder or all folders manually? The "refilter" action is not what I
want since it runs all filters in a category, not just a particular
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Michael,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:25:30 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 09:10 my local time),
you [MT] wrote:

MT> Partition Magic will quite happily convert NTFS to FAT / FAT32 and
MT> Vice versa.

Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think  XP
converts FAT32 to NTFS without having to format the drive , thereby
maintaining data integrity.

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Marck,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:20:26 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 09:05 my local time),
you [MDP] wrote:

MDP> Since there are new variants only a few days old it is no surprise
MDP> that AVG didn't spot the infection. 

I think the 'E' variant Rick is talking about is more than a months
old. Norton's definition dated June 15 included this variant. So,
maybe its a question of which AV company's lab comes out with
definitions quicker.

Besides, Norton's Bloodhound technology is great for detecting these
variants.


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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Michael,

@17 July 2002, 04:29 +0100  Michael Thompson [MT] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Rick Reumann:

MT> Norton is great due to the fact it basicly acts as a middle man,
MT> examing the attachments before they even get to the client. (Bonus
MT> when using Express, but not a issue if using a decent email client
MT> such as the Bat!) Most other scanners only examin after the actual
MT> file is present on your machine.

We just said that in a long thread discussing the plug-in thesis. The
"middle man" approach slows down *all* mail while plug-ins are only
called when there is an attachment worth looking at.

Please read the recent thread exploring these issue in depth under the
topic "OT: Antivirus software review".

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Michael,

@17 July 2002, 04:32 +0100  Michael Thompson [MT] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D
Pearlstone:


Please trim your quotes as outlined in the list rules


MT> varients should still contain something in similar fashioon to the
MT> origional, and still should be realised.

Not at all. Why would a virus writer release a variant that all the
checker caught immediately? Think about it :-).

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Re: Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Michael,
On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:24:44 +0100, you wrote:

> I think this program you refer to is "Magic Folders" available from
> http://pc-magic.com . Personnal peference is not to encrypt folders,
> but to individualy encrypt files. PGP does a good job of this, but
> will screw up a XP machine if you try to uninstall it.

In what way?  I uninstalled, and reinstalled two times versions (one was a
different version, the other was because I missed a package) on WinXP only 3
weeks ago... not had any issues.

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Re[2]: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Marck,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:20:26 AM, you wrote:

MDP> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MDP> Hash: SHA1

MDP> Hi Rick,

MDP> @17 July 2002, 21:54 -0400 (02:54 UK time)  Rick Reumann [RR] in
MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat List:

RR>> Has anyone else ever received the W32.Frethem.E@mm  worm virus? I
RR>> didn't run the exe but it slipped passed AVG with the
RR>> decrypt-password.exe. I thought AVG was supposed to be pretty good.
RR>> I'm surprised this high-profile got by. Should I maybe switch to some
RR>> other protection? (AVG has caught other viruses so it does work and it
RR>> was just updated yesterday).

MDP> ,-=[ From the Grisoft site ]-
MDP> Update 377 available. Added detection of three new variants of
MDP> I-Worm/Frethem. - July 15, 2002 -
MDP> `

MDP> Since there are new variants only a few days old it is no surprise
MDP> that AVG didn't spot the infection. I have just updated and one that
MDP> got through on Monday is spotted now.

MDP> This is always going to be a problem with *any* AV software. Any new
MDP> variants and especially a completely new virus won't be spotted until
MDP> at least one person reports it to the AV vendor for them to update their
MDP> database and issue a new one.

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varients should still contain something in similar fashioon to the
origional, and still should be realised.

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Rick,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:54:20 AM, you wrote:

RR> Has anyone else ever received the W32.Frethem.E@mm  worm virus? I
RR> didn't run the exe but it slipped passed AVG with the
RR> decrypt-password.exe. I thought AVG was supposed to be pretty good.
RR> I'm surprised this high-profile got by. Should I maybe switch to some
RR> other protection? (AVG has caught other viruses so it does work and it
RR> was just updated yesterday).

RR> Thanks for any more info.

RR> --

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I use Norton 2002 and it has so far not let anything past. The only
thing to worry about with mail scanners is to make sure that nothing
else is processing mail. Firewalls (ZoneAlarm springs to mind)
sometimes grab files and isolate them, you should not have more than
one mail checker running.

Norton is great due to the fact it basicly acts as a middle man,
examing the attachments before they even get to the client. (Bonus
when using Express, but not a issue if using a decent email client
such as the Bat!) Most other scanners only examin after the actual
file is present on your machine.

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Sudip,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:11:50 AM, you wrote:

SP> Hi Thomas,

SP> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:45 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:24 my local time),
SP> you [TF] wrote:

TF>> I think he is sharing TB with his wife.

SP> I wish Thomas but no, She uses Incredimail 

TF>> How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a
TF>> directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.

SP> I think there's a third party software which is pretty nifty at this.
SP> I used it once but can't recall its name. It could: password protect
SP> files/directories, prevent deleting and moving  files/directories,
SP> password protect read-only access, etc..


I think this program you refer to is "Magic Folders" available from
http://pc-magic.com . Personnal peference is not to encrypt folders,
but to individualy encrypt files. PGP does a good job of this, but
will screw up a XP machine if you try to uninstall it.

To encrypt under a NTFS partition just right click on the
file/Directory and click Propertys --> Advanced. then select
encrypt...

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Sudip,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:05:03 AM, you wrote:

SP> Hi Thomas,

SP> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:56:35 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:41 my local time),
SP> you [TF] wrote:

TF>> I have no idea whether it is possible to recover these when you go
TF>> back to FAT32.

SP> AFAIK, you can convert FAT32 to NTFS but not other way around


Partition Magic will quite happily convert NTFS to FAT / FAT32 and
Vice versa.

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Rick,

@17 July 2002, 21:54 -0400 (02:54 UK time)  Rick Reumann [RR] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat List:

RR> Has anyone else ever received the W32.Frethem.E@mm  worm virus? I
RR> didn't run the exe but it slipped passed AVG with the
RR> decrypt-password.exe. I thought AVG was supposed to be pretty good.
RR> I'm surprised this high-profile got by. Should I maybe switch to some
RR> other protection? (AVG has caught other viruses so it does work and it
RR> was just updated yesterday).

,-=[ From the Grisoft site ]-
Update 377 available. Added detection of three new variants of
I-Worm/Frethem. - July 15, 2002 -
`

Since there are new variants only a few days old it is no surprise
that AVG didn't spot the infection. I have just updated and one that
got through on Monday is spotted now.

This is always going to be a problem with *any* AV software. Any new
variants and especially a completely new virus won't be spotted until
at least one person reports it to the AV vendor for them to update their
database and issue a new one.

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Rick,
On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:54:20 -0400, you wrote:

> Has anyone else ever received the W32.Frethem.E@mm  worm virus?

Had about 15 of them.  And 30 of the Yaha ones yesterday alone.  They all get
stomped on by the mail server, as it is running Sophos anti-virus ;)  More
effective if you stop it at the server level I find.

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Re: Another problem for my mother

2002-07-16 Thread Mark Wieder

I suppose you did the obvious and checked the Message Headers options
under the View menu? Try a shift-control-H and see if that helps.

Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 3:16:52 PM, you wrote:

RE> When we imported her message base in to the bat from outlook the inbox
RE> worked  fine however her send mail came through with no headers so she
RE> can no longer see who they were too or what the subject was.

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Rick,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:54:20 -0400 GMT (Jul 17, 07:39 my local time),
you [RR] wrote:

RR> Has anyone else ever received the W32.Frethem.E@mm worm virus? I
RR> didn't run the exe but it slipped passed AVG with the
RR> decrypt-password.exe.

This came my way last week but NAV2001 detected it.

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AVG didn't catch

2002-07-16 Thread Rick Reumann

Has anyone else ever received the W32.Frethem.E@mm  worm virus? I
didn't run the exe but it slipped passed AVG with the
decrypt-password.exe. I thought AVG was supposed to be pretty good.
I'm surprised this high-profile got by. Should I maybe switch to some
other protection? (AVG has caught other viruses so it does work and it
was just updated yesterday).

Thanks for any more info.

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Re: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dave,

@17 July 2002, 17:29 -0700 (01:29 UK time)  Dave in Phoenix [DIP] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Nick Andriash:

DIP> I've been wondering about the tiny print grey signatures also.
DIP> Using the normal bat viewer for example Nick Andriash's signature
DIP> and all beyond including the bat links for FAQ etc tiny grey.

Everything below a non-PGP cut mark (i.e., not *this* message )
will be shown in the style defined for "Signature text" under
"Preferences | Viewer".

See "Creating a New Message" topic in the TB help and click on the
pop-up "cut-mark" for a description of the Cut mark.

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Re: [OT] I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Ben,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:35:03 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 05:20 my local time),
you [BK] wrote:

BK> Mozilla 1.0 supports tabs just like Opera, comes without any
BK> adverts and supports resumeable downloads.

I'm becoming increasingly aware of Opera's shortcomings but I still
use it primarily because of few features. Does Mozilla have auto
reload function like Opera? Does it 'retain' the browsed webpages,
like Opera, when you close the program?

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Re: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Chris,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:14:20 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 02:59 my local time),
you [CW] wrote:

CW> I notice that a lot of people who mail to these lists have signatures on
CW> the bottom of their mails in the slightly smaller font and in grey.

In your template insert a blank line with Carriage Return after your
%cursor position and type (-- ) without the parenthesis i.e. 
 . Insert another blank line after that then type your
signature text. This tells TB! that the text following (-- ) is a
signature text. Now, to define its color and fonts goto
Options->Preferences then click on Viewer Tab. Select 'Signature Text'
from drop-down list box 'Item' and define color and font of the
signature accordingly. I think default color is gray.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:45 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:24 my local time),
you [TF] wrote:

TF> I think he is sharing TB with his wife.

I wish Thomas but no, She uses Incredimail 

TF> How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a
TF> directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.

I think there's a third party software which is pretty nifty at this.
I used it once but can't recall its name. It could: password protect
files/directories, prevent deleting and moving  files/directories,
password protect read-only access, etc..

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:56:35 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:41 my local time),
you [TF] wrote:

TF> I have no idea whether it is possible to recover these when you go
TF> back to FAT32.

AFAIK, you can convert FAT32 to NTFS but not other way around

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Filter signatures when writing to file

2002-07-16 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

Hi:

I have a 'Read Filter' that appends to a text file certain messages
that meet certain conditions, for archive purposes. The archive is
growing really fast, and I would like to cut the signatures
(everything below the '-- ') before writing the archive, just like the
%QUOTES macro does, but obviously without the Quote prefix in every
line.

This is the Save template that I use, I think is the default:

,- [ Save Message Template ]
| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| From:%OFromName <%OFromAddr>
| To:  %OToName <%OToAddr>
| Date:%ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn
| Subject: %OSubj
| Files:   %Attachments
| --===--
| %Text
| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| 
`-

Anyone knows what should I put instead of %Text to make it cut the
signatures?

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Re[2]: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Dave in Phoenix

I've been wondering about the tiny print grey signatures also. Using the
normal bat viewer for example Nick Andriash's signature and all beyond
including the bat links for FAQ etc tiny grey.

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Re[2]: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread alists

Hello Allie,

Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:03:19 PM, you wrote:

ACM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
ACM> Hash: SHA1

ACM> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ACM> Daniel Van Rooijen [Copycats] [DVR] wrote:

ACM> DVR> Actually it IS a real problem. I use the fixed width viewer
ACM> DVR> because it is faster and looks more coherent than the slightly
ACM> DVR> more frivolous rich text viewer.

ACM> I agree that it is faster but looks more coherent?? I don't get it. If
ACM> you configure the rich text editor to use the same font and font sizes
ACM> with the various text types then it'll show the text exactly as in the
ACM> plain text viewer.

ACM> DVR> The sideways scrolling happens very frequently. Just position
ACM> DVR> your mouse a few milimeters to the side of the vertical scroll
ACM> DVR> bar. Click and move about a little, and voila. The reason why
ACM> DVR> this is so inconvenient is that I frequently miss the vertical
ACM> DVR> scroll bar by just a few milimeters when I want to drag it down.

ACM> Sounds like you need to widen the width of your scroll bar.

hi Allie,

I hate to take up all that screen space on numbers that are
meaningless to me... so i only show the folder name. hence,
suggestion to maybe make those columns customizable.

If I set that window wide enough for it all, it takes a lot away
from the email viewer.

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Re[2]:[OT] I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Richard,

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 10:46:53 PM, you [RE] wrote:


RE> If  she  double  clicks the HTML message to open it in her browser (IE
RE> I'm  afraid, I'll work on switching her to Opera once we've bedded the
RE> Bat  in)


RE> Richard Evans
RE> (happily  married  with a wife and children who use Opera for Browsing
RE> and e-mail)

NOOO! Why do you use Opera?  It isn't properly CSS or HTML compliant!
Please please please use a browser based on the Gecko engine (like
Mozilla or K-Meleon) to give web site designers (such as me) an actual
standard that we can work to without fear of browsers such as this!
Mozilla 1.0 supports tabs just like Opera, comes without any adverts and
supports resumeable downloads.

But hey, at least we're not talking Netscape 4.7.  Don't even get me
started on that! ;)

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Re: OT: Antivirus software review

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Kerekes

Hello,

Thank you all for the extensive replies to my inquiry.

I learned a lot, not just about the number of AV softwares available, but
also what is the reason for the "plug-in" or "Hook".

Since I use GetRight already and it is linked to my current AV software, if
I can use a plug-in  with Bat I don't have to run my AV software in monitor
mode. In that case I have to use one of the AV softwares with plugin.

>From all the discussion I think my best bet is AVG from Grisoft, since it
appears to be good and is free. The second choice would be NOD32. It is
reasonable priced.

Thank you again for all the help.

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Another problem for my mother

2002-07-16 Thread Richard Evans


Fellow Bat Lovers
When we imported her message base in to the bat from outlook the inbox
worked  fine however her send mail came through with no headers so she
can no longer see who they were too or what the subject was.
Any thoughts
-- 
From,
Richard Evans
Written at 23:14 on 16/07/02
Pure E-mail with The Bat!v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 Build  A
Browsing with Opera 6.04 build 1135

While I write this I'm listening toDubh Chapter Touch & Go 04 Touch & Go by 
Complete...With Winamp 2.78   

(Long but worth it)Thought for the day
"What  if  a  demon crept after you one day or night in your loneliest
solitude  and  said  to  you:  ‘This life, as you live it now and have
lived it, you will have to live again and again, times without number;
and  there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and
every thought and sigh and all the unspeakably small and great in your
life  must  return  to  you,  and  everything  in  the same series and
sequence...  The  eternal hour-glass of existence will be turned again
and  again—and  you  with  it,  you dust of dust!’—Would you not throw
yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who thus spoke?
Or have you experienced a tremendous moment in which you answered him:
‘You  are  a  god  and never did I hear anything more divine!’ If this
thought  gained power over you it would, as you are now, transform and
perhaps  crush  you;  the question in all and everything: ‘do you want
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Re: I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Richard Evans


Hi TBUDL,
On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, at 18:27:03 [GMT +0100] you wrote:
RE> She  receives a number of "Funnies" from her friends which consist of
RE> a  joke  written  in  HTML  with  coloured  backgrounds  animated gifs
RE> embedded in the text etc.
RE> As  you  all  know  The Bat displays the text fine (plain or HTML) but
RE> shows  all  the Gifs etc as attachments which she can open individually
RE> but cannot get them to display within the mail as the sender intended.

Thank  you all for your responses. I need to clarify the problem a bit
further  I think as it sounds like some of you don't have this problem
I may need to tweak some settings
When  She  receives  an HTML mail I have the viewer set to display the
HTMl  therefore  any fancy fonts and background appear fine within the
bat.
The problem seems to be when there are gif's embedded in the e-mail.
these  appear  as  attachments  on  the  left  of  the  viewer  and as
individual  tabs  at  the bottom of the mail but she is unable to see
them  all  on  one screen (i.e with the animated frog next to the joke
about the frog)
If  she  double  clicks the HTML message to open it in her browser (IE
I'm  afraid, I'll work on switching her to Opera once we've bedded the
Bat  in)  The  message  displays  again with font/background in IE but
still no dancing frogs just boxes with little crosses in
Are  there some settings in the Bat that I can change to give her what
she wants.
These  are  not  the linked images that you get in some corporate HTML
mails but stand alone gifs.
I  am  always  on  at  her  about  the  risks of these e-mails and the
benefits of plain text but just as was stated in the incredimail thread
she likes her computer to be entertaining.
(To  avoid  any  confusion  and  further comparisons to the incredimail
thread  my  Mother  and  I  do not share a computer. It is a long time
since I lived with my Mother)

--
Richard Evans
(happily  married  with a wife and children who use Opera for Browsing
and e-mail)

Pure E-mail with The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 Build  A

While I write this I'm listening toSleep & Be Thankful by Dubh Chapter...With 
Winamp 2.78

Thought for the day
Edited out as was slightly offensive



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Re: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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> How is this achieved and are there any basic rules I need to follow to
> have one myself?

 (that is --)

That is a signature delimiter. When you use that, anything below it is
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When signing with PGP, the signature delimiter gets replaced with
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Re: Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Chris Weaven,

In Reference to your Posting on Tuesday, July 16 2002 at 02:14 PM PDT,

> I notice that a lot of people who mail to these lists have signatures on
> the bottom of their mails in the slightly smaller font and in grey.

I think you are seeing that because you are using the RTViewer which
allows for the smaller font in signatures.
 
> How is this achieved and are there any basic rules I need to follow to
> have one myself?

Not really. Be creative... have a look at the multitude of those that have
signatures for a few ideas. Using Templates, you can have different
signatures for different Recipients, etc.

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Signatures.

2002-07-16 Thread Chris Weaven

Hi all,

This is a bit of a trivial question, but a valuable one to me all the
same.

I notice that a lot of people who mail to these lists have signatures on
the bottom of their mails in the slightly smaller font and in grey.

How is this achieved and are there any basic rules I need to follow to
have one myself?

Thanks,

Chris.



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Re[4]: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Deborah W

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 9:41:51 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

JN> What sort of drawbacks? I used to have a separate AB the way you
JN> describe it, and opted instead to make those entries a group
JN> within my personal AB. I've found no disadvantages, and several
JN> advantages, so I'm interested in your thinking.

Wellsome of the people who are in the Trekker AB are also in my
personal AB, but most aren't, so it's more cluttered with them all in
one placeplus some of them use a different email address for the
Trekker project than they do for personal emails, so for me it's
easier to just generally use my personal AB without thinking about
*which* entry I need, or which email address to use...I realise these
things also work using AB groups but it just makes more sense in *my*
brain to have them as separate ABs...LOL

Besides, what's the point in having the option of several ABs if you
only use one? ;-)

I think I've got it all worked out now anyway, though the mass-mail
won't be going out tonight (as I'd planned) as discussion of the
project on a couple of email lists has led to another surge of
volunteers; I'll wait for a day or two so I don't have to do multiple
mailings :-)

It still makes more sense to me that TB would pick up the details from
the AB I'm using for a mass-mailing, rather than pick up details from
other ABs, kwim?

Deborah



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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Deborah,

@16 July 2002, 20:54 +0100  Deborah W [DW] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DW> When I click on the icon for the AB, the AB window appears. In the
DW> left pane there are several book icons, the first of which is
DW> "Personal address book". I then have a couple of others - one of
DW> which is the one I'm trying to use (sending the mass email to
DW> every entry in that AB) - called Trekker.

Aha. Therein lies a problem methinks. It may be that the %AB macros
are only using the default address book while the records you are
using actually come from another.

DW> IOW, there's only one entry for each recipient in the list shown
DW> when I click on "Trekker" in the left pane.

DW> Does each of those little blue book icons represent a different
DW> AB?

Yes.

DW> It seems that although I have one AB open, it's taking the info
DW> from a different AB? This seems a truly odd way for it to work
DW> s:-/

You have a default address book. That's what's used for resolution of
the macros.

DW> I suppose it would work better if I had the people in the
DW> "Trekker" book in the same AB as everyone else, & then created a
DW> Trekker group, rather than a Trekker AB -

Yes, yes, YES! That's by far the best way to do it.

DW> but that has drawbacks of its own :-(

It needn't. Subvert one of the unused fields (the AB has *many*)  to
provide the extra information used by the Trekker group and use the
appropriate %AB macro to pull it out into your mass mailing. You'll
love it! ;-).

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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 2:20:22 PM, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

> master thesis on Friday

congrats and good luck. Celebrate Saturday, don't fiddle with e-mail
til Sunday.

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Re[3]: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Joseph N.

   On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Deborah W wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

DW> I suppose it would work better if I had the people in the "Trekker"
DW> book in the same AB as everyone else, & then created a Trekker group,
DW> rather than a Trekker AB - but that has drawbacks of its own :-(

Deborah,

What sort of drawbacks?  I used to have a separate AB the way you
describe it, and opted instead to make those entries a group within my
personal AB.  I've found no disadvantages, and several advantages, so
I'm interested in your thinking.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:52:52 PM, Thomas F wrote:

JB>> Computers are designed to entertain

> Not in the beginning

I think always. The games were more primitive of course back in days
when computers required their own huge air conditioned rooms and
ground to a halt on days when there were brown outs, and backups were
reel to reel, etc, and you wrote your programs on a keypunch machine.
But there were games.

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Importing some fields into AB

2002-07-16 Thread Joseph N.

Forgive my asking a question here as a shortcut; I think I could
trial-and-error my way to an answer of this, but I don't have the
time: I need to import several hundred records into a new AB group
from another program. The address records in that other program all
have titles such as Mr., Ms., Dr., etc. I don't want those in my TB!
group, but if I import them my customary way, as vCards, all fields
come over. Is there a way to import everything except the contents of
a specified field?

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Re[2]: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Deborah W

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:39:36 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP> This is a symptom of there being two address book entries for the
MDP> email address. 

Hnow I'm getting confused. I understand what you're saying,
and it does indeed seem to be doing exactly what you say, in a
sense...perhaps you can explain to me how the AB works.

When I click on the icon for the AB, the AB window appears. In the
left pane there are several book icons, the first of which is
"Personal address book". I then have a couple of others - one of which
is the one I'm trying to use (sending the mass email to every entry in
that AB) - called Trekker. IOW, there's only one entry for each
recipient in the list shown when I click on "Trekker" in the left
pane.

Does each of those little blue book icons represent a different AB? Or
does it consider everything that's available to be all part of one
great big AB?

It seems that although I have one AB open, it's taking the info from a
different AB? This seems a truly odd way for it to work s:-/

I suppose it would work better if I had the people in the "Trekker"
book in the same AB as everyone else, & then created a Trekker group,
rather than a Trekker AB - but that has drawbacks of its own :-(

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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Deborah,

@16 July 2002, 20:32 +0100  Deborah W [DW] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DW> ... There seems to be a problem with how the macros collect info
DW> from the AB - they're picking up old information, ... it doesn't
DW> pick up the new info, & instead puts "John & Jane" in the field
DW> for FirstName.

This is a symptom of there being two address book entries for the
email address. Although you and I know that the message is part of a
mass mail to the addresses in a specific AB group, the %AB macro
hasn't got a clue about that and initiates a fresh search from the top
of the address book looking for the address in the message it is
currently processing. If it finds a match before it gets to your
specific group, it will use the record it finds first.

Make sure that there are no spurious entries for people. A good tip
for doing that is to sort the address book listing by email address.

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Re[2]: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Deborah W

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 7:46:40 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> Look for the %ABnnnPPP macro. With it you can put any information
DH> stored in any field of the AB into your mails just like %TO etc.

Okay, I've got that far, & my QT seems to be working - for *some* of
the recipients. There seems to be a problem with how the macros
collect info from the AB - they're picking up old information, so, for
example, if someone in my address book used to be called "John & Jane"
& is now called "John Smith" with "Jane" in the memo section, it
doesn't pick up the new info, & instead puts "John & Jane" in the
field for FirstName.

Likewise, for those recipients I've just added to the AB, it doesn't
pick up any information at all, other than the headers (ie the name &
email address of who it's going to) - there's no info included in the
body of the message. For those who were previously in the AB but for
whom I've added new information, it only picks up the old info. The
fields for the new info are blank.

I've exited the AB & opened it again; I've exited TB & opened it again
- still the same problem.

Any help appreciated

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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Thomas,

On 16-07-2002 19:37, you [T] wrote in
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PF>> Right on!

T> But then, does my suggestion with the QT help you?

I am sorry to say that I haven't tried it. I will hand on my master
thesis on Friday so I am fully backed up.

I makes sense so I guess it works.

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Re[2]: OT: Antivirus software review

2002-07-16 Thread Ochrid

Hello Allie,

Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 9:14:42 PM, you wrote:


ACM> The hook invokes the antivirus check upon completion of the download,
ACM> not before or during.

Thanks for the explanation. My point was that you - obviously
much more of an expert than I am - thought it wise to hook up DAP
to your VirusScanner.
I did not know when the scan took place - before, after or
during - bus just accepted the advice happily.
Thanks again,
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Re: I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Nick,

@16 July 2002, 10:41 -0700 (18:41 UK time)  Nick Andriash [NA] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL:

>> She  receives a number of "Funnies" from her friends which consist of
>> a  joke  written  in  HTML  with  coloured  backgrounds  animated gifs
>> embedded in the text etc.

NA> In that case, I think all she has to do is double click on the HTML link
NA> and open the message in her Browser. That is a very dangerous practice she
NA> is engaging in, but I suppose you have already told her that. ;o)

A caveat: If the referenced images are out-of-line, fine - that will
work as advertised. Otherwise, if they are poorly referenced in-line
images then if they stored in the message base and not in an external
folder, viewing the message externally may still not provide the full
"technicolor" experience ;-).

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Re: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread Allie C Martin

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Alists [A] wrote:

A> This is very annoying, it would be wonderful if they could just
A> add an option to don't show horizontal scroll bar in folder
A> window..

This is separate from what we're discussing and I'm with you on this
one. My way of dealing with it is to make the folder window wide
enough so that the horizontal scroll-bar doesn't appear.

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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Jan Rifkinson

At 2:46 PM on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 Dierk Haasis wrote the
following about [personalised mass-mailing?]:

>> Can I do this without individually typing in information for each
>> recipient? I know I can do a Quick Template with First Name, Last
>> Name, Email Address - but can I put in other information from the AB?
>> If so, do I use a QT (& if so, what other macros do I need)? Or is
>> there another way to do it?

DH> Look for the %ABnnnPPP macro. With it you can put any information
DH> stored in any field of the AB into your mails just like %TO etc.

  And if its the same group of 30, you can create an AB
  group, a boilerplate template, calling any new info you
  want to include from a separate file & use the 'mass
  mailing' feature which addresses each person in the group
  individually w/o use of the cc or bcc.

  As Dierk suggests the ABnnnPPP macro can help personalize
  each email automatically as in

  Dear Harry
  Dear Ms. Jones
  Dear mom

  HTH

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Re: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread Allie C Martin

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Daniel Van Rooijen [Copycats] [DVR] wrote:

DVR> Actually it IS a real problem. I use the fixed width viewer
DVR> because it is faster and looks more coherent than the slightly
DVR> more frivolous rich text viewer.

I agree that it is faster but looks more coherent?? I don't get it. If
you configure the rich text editor to use the same font and font sizes
with the various text types then it'll show the text exactly as in the
plain text viewer.

DVR> The sideways scrolling happens very frequently. Just position
DVR> your mouse a few milimeters to the side of the vertical scroll
DVR> bar. Click and move about a little, and voila. The reason why
DVR> this is so inconvenient is that I frequently miss the vertical
DVR> scroll bar by just a few milimeters when I want to drag it down.

Sounds like you need to widen the width of your scroll bar.

DVR> Instead of moving down, the screen then moves sideways. It's a
DVR> bug and it needs fixing! :)

The fix for the viewer was the rich text viewer. Many complained that
the viewer didn't support variable width fonts, that it broke pgp
signature verification. They also voiced the wish for multi-quote
level colouring.

The plain text viewer seems to be a derivative of the editor and even
uses some of the editor settings such as the font and auto-wrap
settings. A lot of the limitations and problems seen in the PTV are
derivatives of features of the editor including the free caret
interface, no support for soft wrapping and no support for variable
width fonts. The problem you're having is as a result of the free
caret interface of the editor.

The developers said that it would be easier for them to just develop a
new viewer entirely rather than 'fix'/enhance the old one. This is
what the RTV is about including the new HTML rendering engine. The RTV
is not only there for rendering HTML but also for reading plain text.

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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Deborah,

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 18:01 GMT +0100, clairvoyants were
mystified when Deborah W [DW] conjured:

DW> I need to do that with emails. I have about 30 people to send an email
DW> to, & I need to be able to put information from my address book in
DW> various "fields" in the email: name, address, email address etc. Each
DW> person is to get an email with their own information (gleaned from my
DW> AB) in it. (This is for checking & completion purposes.)

Use the %AB macros.  From the help file:

=[Begin Help File]=
AbnnnPPP   insert a field from the address book. The "nnn" part
   determines the address that is used to retrieve
   information from the address book, the "PPP" part is
   the name of the address book field to be used. 

Possible values for the " nnn " part are:

TO  use the address entry for the TO addressee of the current message
OFROM   use the address entry for the FROM address of the original message
OREPLY  use the address entry for the REPLY-TO address of the original message
OTO use the address entry for the TO addressee of the original message
FROMuse the address entry for the FROM address of the current message
REPLY   use the address entry for the REPLY-TO address of the current message

Possible values for the " PPP " part are:

Namethe full name
FirstName   the first name
LastNamethe last name
MiddleName  the middle name
Handle  the handle (alias)
NamePrefix  the name prefix (such as "Mr.", "Mrs.", "Dr." etc)
NameSuffix  the name suffix (such as ", Jr.", ", PhD", etc)
Birthdaythe date of birth
Email   the primary e-mail address
Addrthe home street address
Citythe home city name
State   the home state/province name
ZIP the home address ZIP/Postal code
Country the home address country name
Phone   the home phone number
Fax the home facsimile number
Mobile  the mobile phone number
Pagethe personal homepage URL
Company the company name
Job the job title
Deptthe department name
Office  the office number
BusAddr the business street address
BusCity the business address city name
BusStatethe business address state/province name
BusZIP  the business address ZIP/Postal code
BusCountry  the business address Country name
BusPhonethe business telephone number
BusFax  the business facsimile number
BusPagerthe business pager number
BusPage the business homepage URL
Gender  the person's gender
Charset the default character set
Memothe Memo contents of the address entry

AbnnnPPP = "text"   insert a field from the address book as above.
If there is no matching address book entry or
the field requested from the address book is
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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Deborah!

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 7:01:39 PM you wrote:

> Can I do this without individually typing in information for each
> recipient? I know I can do a Quick Template with First Name, Last
> Name, Email Address - but can I put in other information from the AB?
> If so, do I use a QT (& if so, what other macros do I need)? Or is
> there another way to do it?

Look for the %ABnnnPPP macro. With it you can put any information
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Thomas F wrote...

> I believe for dual boot you need seperate partitions anyway.
> (Partition Magic comes to mind.) If you have programs or data on the
> NTFS partition (and you will have), I have no idea whether it is
> possible to recover these when you go back to FAT32.

I don't think Win98 can read NTFS... but from WinXP/2k you should be
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Re: I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:27:03 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 00:27 +0700 GMT),
Richard Evans wrote:

RE> I am trying to convince my Mother to switch from "lookout" to the bat
RE> whilst  she  is quite impressed with the ease of use and functionality
RE> she has one problem which I know you're all going to Love :-)

My mother went from AOL to a real POP account and needed an email
client. She didn't *want* to use OL because of the virus vulnerability
(smart lady, right?). A friend at the pensioner's club told her about
TB, and she used it for a few years (never upgraded from version 1.41
- if it ain't broke, don't fix it).

Then, unhappy about the POP provider's service, she went back to AOL.
And misses TB: "It was so much easier" :-)

RE> She  receives a number of "Funnies" from her friends which consist of
RE> a  joke  written  in  HTML  with  coloured  backgrounds  animated gifs
RE> embedded in the text etc.
RE> As  you  all  know  The Bat displays the text fine (plain or HTML) but
RE> shows  all  the Gifs etc as attachments which she can open individually
RE> but cannot get them to display within the mail as the sender intended.

Why not? When I receive HTML mails with embedded objects, they display
fine. Just click on the tab below the message.

A work-around is to click on the HTML attachment. The whole HTML
message will then display in the system-default browser.

RE> Unfortunately I'm writing this without the aid of music

Did you follow the thread about IncrediMail? - Just asking

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello John,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:02:35 -0500 GMT (16/07/02, 23:02 +0700 GMT),
John Blue wrote:

JB> Computers are designed to entertain

Not in the beginning, but that is what seems to have evolved.

JB> and I say if people *want* to send e-mail as html by god let 'em.

Not if they communicate with me. I find the backgrounds most often
annoying, don't care for music accompanying the mail, and please send
me flashing gifs only if you want to make a point, not because "it
looks great". It doesn't. And by the way, I'm on dial-up.

JB> Strength is diversity not in "training" conformity.

Great. My mother took a cruise down the Pacific coast of South America
on one of these luxury liners (she fulfilled one of her dreams, and I
think she did the right thing), and she could be reached by the ship's
email address. They charged 1,-DM per KB for incoming or outgoing
emails. Guess what, my sister (not knowing about the charge) sent her
a Christmas greating with animation and stuff, worth several MB. :-(

LT>> Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
LT>> "upgraded" to IncrediMail,

One thing is true about IncrediMail: it's really incredible...

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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Peter,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:26:35 +0200 GMT (16/07/02, 23:26 +0700 GMT),
Peter Fjelsten wrote:

D>> It isn't because Peter is illogical, it is because the list he is on
D>> is illogical.

PF> Right on!

But then, does my suggestion with the QT help you?

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Joseph,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:15:04 -0500 GMT (16/07/02, 21:15 +0700 GMT),
Joseph N. wrote:

JN> 4. Password protect files that are critical, like Quicken, calendars,
JN> TB!, etc.

I think he is sharing TB with his wife.

But my question is: How do you password-protect files? I managed to
password-protect a directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.
I took the password off before I forgot it. ;-)

(Win98)

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Re: I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Richard Evans,

In Reference to your Posting on Tuesday, July 16 2002 at 10:27 AM PDT,

> She  receives a number of "Funnies" from her friends which consist of
> a  joke  written  in  HTML  with  coloured  backgrounds  animated gifs
> embedded in the text etc.

In that case, I think all she has to do is double click on the HTML link
and open the message in her Browser. That is a very dangerous practice she
is engaging in, but I suppose you have already told her that. ;o)

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Re[4]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 9:02:35 AM, you wrote:

JB> Computers are designed to entertain and I say if people *want* to send
JB> e-mail as html by god let 'em.

So far, so good, but a lot of the html mail I get is
nearly unreadable ... if they'd compose for readability
instead of animated gifs and gadgetry, and choose colour
schemes/backgrounds that didn't obscure the message, it
wouldn't be so objectionable, even not considering the
space/bandwidth issues .. I'm not even going to bring up
type size ...

JB> Strength is diversity not in "training" conformity.

It certainly is .. but users of M$ software who have never
looked at anything else, much less the settings for the
software they are using are hardly 'diversified' ... too many
people have been *seriously* trained never to change
anything on the computers they are using.

This is due in large part to vendor support whose first
reaction to some problem is to a) find out what
'non-standard' (read 'non-M$') software is on the machine,
and b) strip it off. Oddly, no one seems to notice that
that generally doesn't fix the problem, but it does make
people scared to try different software options.

Anyway, I don't care what people use in general, and this
clearly doesn't apply to my IncrediMail friend .. I just
much prefer to get *my* mail plain text ... there's a switch
for that .. in almost all the clients I've seen :-)

Lynn


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I hate HTML mail

2002-07-16 Thread Richard Evans


Fellow Bat Lovers
I am trying to convince my Mother to switch from "lookout" to the bat
whilst  she  is quite impressed with the ease of use and functionality
she has one problem which I know you're all going to Love :-)

She  receives a number of "Funnies" from her friends which consist of
a  joke  written  in  HTML  with  coloured  backgrounds  animated gifs
embedded in the text etc.
As  you  all  know  The Bat displays the text fine (plain or HTML) but
shows  all  the Gifs etc as attachments which she can open individually
but cannot get them to display within the mail as the sender intended.
Is this possible either within the bat or with another application.
I  am keen for her to keep using the bat as I figure she's less likely
to get a virus and also less likely to pass one on to me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re[2]: HELP! configurastion error!!!

2002-07-16 Thread Mark Wieder

Yes, this method has worked for me a couple of time, too. BTW - I
think zip drives also use scsiport.sys...Iomega has some weird way of
mapping zip drives as SCSI drives, even if they're external or on an
IDE bus.

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Re: HELP! configurastion error!!!

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Paul Cartwright wrote...


> well, I just created the new ( old ) accounts, selecting the existing
> folders. Once you select the folders, it already HAS the info for the
> next screens, so I didn't have to do anything ! All is back now ;)
> well, maybe not the templates, yup they are still there, from my OLD
> backup, but my newer ( and working) spamcop filters are gone ..
> oh well, almost done!

They may have changed that then.  But it has been a while since I was
forced to use that to restore mail.  Last time I remembered having to
recomplete all the stuff even though the files were there.  Glad to
hear nearly everything is back though :)

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:16 PM, you wrote:

SP> Hi Paul,

SP> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:05:46 -0400 GMT (Jul 16, 21:50 my local time),
SP> you [PC] wrote:

PC>> I use XP, and me and my SPOUSE have separate logins, so I DON"T MESS
PC>> with her setup, windows, or email program ( Outlook).

SP> Yes, I'm thinking about XP. But, can't take chances with some of the
SP> hardware that XP might not support. So:

SP> 1. Can I safely install XP alongside Win98 and use dual boot?

dunno, I didn't try that, but I think so. I had it dual boot with
win2K on another machine.

SP> 2. Do I need separate partition (NTFS) if I go with dual OS? I'd like
SP>to keep FAT32 incase I decide to discard XP later.
you REALLY know how to hurt a guy don't you!! My current situation is
rebuilding a CRASHED winXP setup, had to reload the OS because I
couldn't boot to C:\ because it was NTFS!!! I believe you can keep
FAT32 ( or fat16)


SP> 3. In this dual OS environment, can XP be safely uninstalled, without
SP>disturbing original Win98 setup?

I wouldn't know, never tried to uninstall it. why bother, just leave
it in, ignore the bootup option and default to the other OS. Better
safe than ...


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Re: HELP! configurastion error!!!

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:15 PM, you wrote:

JA> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
JA> Hash: SHA1

JA> On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Paul Cartwright wrote...


>> Now I have the old folders from my other accounts still in place, so
>> how do I get back those settings easily ?

JA> If you still have the files and folders there, copy them to a safe
JA> location (outside TB! directory should be fine).  Recreate the
JA> accounts in TB!, close TB!, copy files back for each account... reopen
JA> TB!, and they should all be there... At least that was how I managed
JA> to do it last time anyway.  You may not necessarily have to copy the
JA> files back, but I think you do because when you first create an
JA> account, it writes the files, and if they are already there, it'll
JA> update them... which will get rid of your old settings.

well, I just created the new ( old ) accounts, selecting the existing
folders. Once you select the folders, it already HAS the info for the
next screens, so I didn't have to do anything ! All is back now ;)
well, maybe not the templates, yup they are still there, from my OLD
backup, but my newer ( and working) spamcop filters are gone ..
oh well, almost done!

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personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-16 Thread Deborah W

You know that junk-mail you get (snail mail, not email) that has your
name etc inserted in various places in the information? Says stuff
like "You, Deborah, may have won a million pounds! Just fill in this
form, Deborah, & send it back" etc?

I need to do that with emails. I have about 30 people to send an email
to, & I need to be able to put information from my address book in
various "fields" in the email: name, address, email address etc. Each
person is to get an email with their own information (gleaned from my
AB) in it. (This is for checking & completion purposes.)

Can I do this without individually typing in information for each
recipient? I know I can do a Quick Template with First Name, Last
Name, Email Address - but can I put in other information from the AB?
If so, do I use a QT (& if so, what other macros do I need)? Or is
there another way to do it?

TIA
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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Dwight,

On 16-07-2002 15:39, you [D] wrote in
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D> It isn't because Peter is illogical, it is because the list he is on
D> is illogical.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Paul,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:05:46 -0400 GMT (Jul 16, 21:50 my local time),
you [PC] wrote:

PC> I use XP, and me and my SPOUSE have separate logins, so I DON"T MESS
PC> with her setup, windows, or email program ( Outlook).

Yes, I'm thinking about XP. But, can't take chances with some of the
hardware that XP might not support. So:

1. Can I safely install XP alongside Win98 and use dual boot?

2. Do I need separate partition (NTFS) if I go with dual OS? I'd like
   to keep FAT32 incase I decide to discard XP later.

3. In this dual OS environment, can XP be safely uninstalled, without
   disturbing original Win98 setup?

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Re: HELP! configurastion error!!!

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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> Now I have the old folders from my other accounts still in place, so
> how do I get back those settings easily ?

If you still have the files and folders there, copy them to a safe
location (outside TB! directory should be fine).  Recreate the
accounts in TB!, close TB!, copy files back for each account... reopen
TB!, and they should all be there... At least that was how I managed
to do it last time anyway.  You may not necessarily have to copy the
files back, but I think you do because when you first create an
account, it writes the files, and if they are already there, it'll
update them... which will get rid of your old settings.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread John Blue

SP>How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
SP>your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
SP>is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!

gee wiz people .. the response's to this thread make me laugh!

All you have to do is enable profiles on your 98 machine.  Better yet
get Windows 2000.

My wife is a seamstress and when she logs into our 2k box she has all
her sewing programs.

When I log in .. I have all my admin and game programs.  Buy another
computer if you *really* want to.  All that will solve is allow use at
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Re: HELP! configurastion error!!!

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 1:32 AM, you wrote:

PC>> error about new hardware ( that I didn't install), got a BSOD error at
PC>> bootup even when doing SAFE mode, it was complaining about a
PC>> SCSIPORT.sys driver, when i DON"T HAVE SCSI INSTALLED!!!

TF> Sounds like a virus-related problem to me.

I had both AVG and Norton running, but who knows!

PC>> the mail folders are there for all the accounts, so I ASSUME it won't
PC>> be too hard to restore those accounts?? what did I do wrong and how do
PC>> I fix it?

TF> I would recommend reinstalling Windows first.
I did, that was my 2ND problem, trying to reinstall TB before AVG-
antivirus module choked. Now I at least have me one account and TB
lists back ;)
Now I have the old folders from my other accounts still in place, so
how do I get back those settings easily ?



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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 11:16 AM, you wrote:

LT>> I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time
LT>> for the second computer, but they beat me to it.

SP> Yes I think its time as well. The problem is not about who uses the
SP> computer, I get more usage and that's mutually agreed. The problem is
SP> about how we use the computer. While I'm using it, she wants me to
SP> leave Incredimail (which I hate from the bottom of my toes) minimized.
SP> Everytime she gets mail (which is one every minute!!), her animated

I use XP, and me and my SPOUSE have separate logins, so I DON"T MESS
with her setup, windows, or email program ( Outlook).

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Re[3]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread John Blue

oh boo hoo.  Was finding the 'plain text' switch immediately fast
enough for you?

Computers are designed to entertain and I say if people *want* to send
e-mail as html by god let 'em.

Strength is diversity not in "training" conformity.

LT> Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
LT> "upgraded" to IncrediMail, but when I complained, she
LT> managed to find the 'plain text' switch immediately. If
LT> only I could get the M$ users trained ...

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Re: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread John Seymour

Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 7:10:43 AM, you wrote:
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TF> This is getting OT, but the whole point of beta testing is "doing
TF> strange things". In fact, "Testing" (which is an important part of
TF> software engineering) is all about what happens when the user does
TF> things that the developer hasn't anticipated.

Here is what I reported back in March of 2002. The bug still occurs in
161, but I don't think that it is related to what is being discussed
here. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=633
It has to do with a html message snapping to the right.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Lynn,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:44:45 -0700 GMT (Jul 16, 21:29 my local time),
you [LT] wrote:

LT> "upgraded" to IncrediMail

Paradox of the century !

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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> Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
> "upgraded" to IncrediMail, but when I complained, she
> managed to find the 'plain text' switch immediately. If
> only I could get the M$ users trained ...

Although they found the plain text switch... try looking at the
headers.  If I remember correctly, (at least the version I saw
anyway), put in a whole load of X- headers for other incredimail
users, which can create a substantial over head... especially as one
plain text mail that was sent to a list had nearly 22 X-* headers for
just a plain text message.

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:16:26 AM, you wrote:

SP> Everytime she gets mail (which is one every minute!!), her
SP> animated
SP> "cute doggy" notifier pops up and announces new mail with most
SP> irritating of barks ! If she'd only agree to learn TB! ..

Would make me crazy .. I support a friend who has all
these toys, and it makes me *nuts* trying to do anything
on her system .. .. but she always says .. 'oh, go ahead
and close all that stuff', so it's just a matter of 10
minutes of shutting stuff down. I've given up trying to
reform her, but I don't have to live with it :-)

SP> This
SP> is just one example, other vandalism in her part includes
SP> setting up
SP> 700KB BMP image as a desktop wallpaper, windows themes that'll
SP> give
SP> you migraine, inadvertently shuffling directories around so my
SP> visual
SP> basic projects go berserk searching for the linked databases and
SP> files, etc, etc

I can never figure out how people who compute this way can
find anything .. but then, they are the ones always losing
stuff, aren't they? lol! It does sound like a quick trip
to the rubber room ..

SP> I would say this calls for a new computer, wouldn't you?

Immediately, if not sooner ...

LT>> And I assume if it was a really viable option, you'd
LT>> have done it.

SP> Except for /mucho dinero/ all other options are viable
SP> ! When I was still a bachelor, no wonder all my
SP> married friends were broke :(

Yeah .. but it does seem like something to put high on the
priority list. You have my total sympathy. As I said in a
previous mail, my lot are either geeks or don't dare
change anything on my system; but in any case our system
is .. well, mature, I guess you'd call it, so only my
brother is a nomad, and he's setting his system up now so
will soon be able to commit whatever vandalism he likes
without criticism. He's a good sharer, though. Still, if
he starts sending out IncrediMail, we'll choke him! lol!

Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
"upgraded" to IncrediMail, but when I complained, she
managed to find the 'plain text' switch immediately. If
only I could get the M$ users trained ...

Good luck with it!

Lynn


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Re[3]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Joseph N.

   On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Rick Reumann wrote in
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RR> I just set up an admin account with the Bat and then as an admin
RR> assigned an account to me and an account to my wife. Works well,
RR> except of course I could always log in as admin and check her mail
RR> if I wanted.

Rick,

That is a good way to do it, and it allows you to control which
options users can change. However, if you and your wife also password
protect your accounts, then they will be more private (other than the
nonencrypted message base) and each account won't appear when the
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Lynn,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:33:45 -0700 GMT (Jul 16, 20:18 my local time),
you [LT] wrote:

LT> I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time
LT> for the second computer, but they beat me to it.

Yes I think its time as well. The problem is not about who uses the
computer, I get more usage and that's mutually agreed. The problem is
about how we use the computer. While I'm using it, she wants me to
leave Incredimail (which I hate from the bottom of my toes) minimized.
Everytime she gets mail (which is one every minute!!), her animated
"cute doggy" notifier pops up and announces new mail with most
irritating of barks ! If she'd only agree to learn TB! .. This
is just one example, other vandalism in her part includes setting up
700KB BMP image as a desktop wallpaper, windows themes that'll give
you migraine, inadvertently shuffling directories around so my visual
basic projects go berserk searching for the linked databases and
files, etc, etc

I would say this calls for a new computer, wouldn't you?

LT> And I assume if it was a really viable option, you'd have done it.

Except for /mucho dinero/ all other options are viable ! When I was
still a bachelor, no wonder all my married friends were broke :(

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote...

> I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time for the
> second computer, but they beat me to it. And I assume if it was a
> really viable option, you'd have done it.

Would say the same. But I use a completely different operating system
as well. I get bored of using Windows all day, so a nice change to
have my brain flexed when I get home ;)

> Uh oh ... Any way you can get a separate mail box? Not sure where
> you're located, but North American ISP's will often supply an
> additional mailbox (account) for a smallish fee. They don't always
> make this clear up front, so might be worth asking them. My account
> has 5, which covers the household nicely. So even if we had to share
> a machine, we could use separate clients.

Most ISPs actually offer multiple accounts, just neglect to tell you,
and if they don't offer them for free, they normally charge (as you
said) a small fee. My old ISP in the UK allowed me to setup up to 5
mail boxes, each mail box could have up to 3 aliases assigned to it.
There are other ISPs in the UK that don't provide a specific address,
but give you a subdomain (virtual anyway) so you can setup whatever
you want.  You can then use nice filters to process them into a
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Re: suddenly weird characters

2002-07-16 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Ochrid,
 
16. julij 2002, 15:04:16, you wrote:

O> Sometimes, when typing a message in TB!, certain characters will
O> change - i.e. in stead of ( I will get ), colon's become
O> plus-minus-signs etc.

Sounds like you're changing the character set. Try this next time:
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:06:15 AM, you wrote:

SP> Hi Batpeople,

SP>How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
SP>your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
SP>is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!


I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time
for the second computer, but they beat me to it. And I
assume if it was a really viable option, you'd have done
it.

I'm not sure though why you can't just run separate mail
clients - I know several people who do, and I've done it
myself. Two of you can't use the same machine
simultaneously, so I'm not clear on the problem. Unless
it's the *mail account* you have to share?

Uh oh ... Any way you can get a  separate mail box? Not
sure where you're located, but North American ISP's will
often supply an additional mailbox (account) for a smallish
fee. They don't always make this clear up front, so might
be worth asking them. My account has 5, which covers the
household nicely. So even if we had to share a machine,
we could use separate clients.

All my mob are Bat-using geeks, though :-)

Lynn


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Re[4]: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 6:22:01 AM, you wrote:

DvRC> Ehm, I just noticed that Internet Explorer does the same thing
DvRC> when
DvRC> you just miss the vertical scroll bar and drag the mouse
DvRC> sideways.


I've been reading this thread with interest, because I've
noticed the same thing .. or at least, I thought I had,
but now I'm confused .. I didn't think it was the folder
pane, I thought it was the mail list.

At least I fixed my problem by doing what Marck (I think
it was, mail now gone) said with reference to the columns
settings. Whoever it was, thank you!

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Rick Reumann



On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 3:29:05 AM, Dave wrote:

DC> I use WorkGroupMail mail server, so she can access her mail using
DC> Eudora and I get mine with TB! Works well, flexible, easy to set up
DC> and is inexpensive.

I just set up an admin account with the Bat and then as an admin
assigned an account to me and an account to my wife. Works well,
except of course I could always log in as admin and check her mail
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Joseph N.

   On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Sudip Pokhrel wrote in
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SP>How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
SP>your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
SP>is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!


Sudip,

1. Button down for worst case possibilities with well-configured
firewall and AV systems;

2. Establish certain rules about downloading from non-commercial sites
and not using file-sharing programs;

3. Use the least dangerous programs that still have flashy features.
In my case, I installed Beonex Communicator Suite, which not only
works fast and well as a browser, but has decent controls over mail,
including an html setting that works like TB!

4. Password protect files that are critical, like Quicken, calendars,
TB!, etc.

5. Clean out your temp file often, reboot often, and save for another
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Re: Assign template precedence

2002-07-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 5:56:19 AM, Thomas F wrote:

> I don't think I misunderstood. He replies to a list posting which
> was sent by someone who is also a member of his addressbook with his
> private address.

> If I understand correctly, he used to do it the other way around:
> private recipient address in the TO field (thus triggering the
> templates for the individual) and the list address in the CC field.

> The solution to the problem is to post to the list with the list
> address in the TO field (thus the list templates will be used) and put
> the PM address into the CC field.

I don't think you misunderstood the original message, but I think
several people aren't tracking with why he has this problem. I am on
some lists which have what in my opinion is lousy behavior, but when
one replies, the default is to reply to the sender, not to the list.
One must reply to all for the list address to get picked up by TB! at
all. (this is one reason one needs to be able to block and quote text
with reply to all as well as with reply, but that's another rant). I
believe his problem is that since the reply to is his friend not the
list, the wrong template gets used. It isn't because Peter is
illogical, it is because the list he is on is illogical.

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Re: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote...


> The sideways scrolling happens very frequently. Just position
> your mouse a few milimeters to the side of the vertical scroll bar.
> Click and move about a little, and voila.

I've been following this thread, and couldn't for the life of me work
out what you meant until this explanation. I see what you mean, but
I've never come across it before because I either use the mouse scroll
button, or page up/down buttons on my keyboard. And the reason it
behaves in this manor (I believe) is because of the time of editor it
is. You can do it in the New Message window as well, but that is
because the editor allows you to place the cursor anywhere within its
bounds.

> The reason why this is so inconvenient is that I frequently miss the
> vertical scroll bar by just a few milimeters when I want to drag it
> down. Instead of moving down, the screen then moves sideways. It's a
> bug and it needs fixing! :)

I'm not sure I'd call it a bug, more of a feature of the editor ;)
Otherwise you could class being able to scroll down several pages
using the page up/down button, and the vertical scroll bar not growing
to reflect that (see Word/notepad, press and enter for several pages,
and look at the scroll bar). The bar is behaving (in what I'd see)
normally. The horizontal and vertical scroll bars should only (and do
only) appear when text breaks outside the width of the current screen.
As TB! itself soft-wraps non-broken lines, the horizontal bar should
(in theory, and most cases) never appear.

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Re[3]: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


(talking to myself..)

Ehm, I just noticed that Internet Explorer does the same thing when
you just miss the vertical scroll bar and drag the mouse sideways.

Maybe this is some Windows fluke after all.. or worse, it might be
intended behaviour! :)



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suddenly weird characters

2002-07-16 Thread Ochrid


Hello all,
Sometimes, when typing a message in TB!, certain characters will
change - i.e. in stead of ( I will get ), colon's become
plus-minus-signs etc.

Closing TB down and starting it up again usually solves the
problem, so I wonder if I clumsily and unwittingly use some
short cut that changes the keyboard layout. Would that be
possible?

(I have only one keyboard defined in Windows).



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Re[3]: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread alists

Hello Daniel,

Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 5:39:23 AM, you wrote:


DvRC> Hi Allie,

DvRC> ACM> I guess you must realize the priority such a problem would receive in
DvRC> ACM> the fix list. ;)

DvRC> Actually it IS a real problem. I use the fixed width viewer because it
DvRC> is faster and looks more coherent than the slightly more frivolous
DvRC> rich text viewer.

DvRC> The sideways scrolling happens very frequently. Just position
DvRC> your mouse a few milimeters to the side of the vertical scroll bar.
DvRC> Click and move about a little, and voila. The reason why this is so
DvRC> inconvenient is that I frequently miss the vertical scroll bar by just
DvRC> a few milimeters when I want to drag it down. Instead of moving down,
DvRC> the screen then moves sideways. It's a bug and it needs fixing! :)

This is very annoying, it would be wonderful if they could just
add an option to don't show horizontal scroll bar in folder
window..

I try not to touch the area! I think since the folders will bold
up when there is unread, that the numbers are an option.. so an
alternate idea would be to have an option to set a fixed width of
the folder pane or have options on what columns to display (aside
from folder names)..

just my .02!!

Laura Leee :)
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Re[2]: Sliding screen

2002-07-16 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Allie,

ACM> I guess you must realize the priority such a problem would receive in
ACM> the fix list. ;)

Actually it IS a real problem. I use the fixed width viewer because it
is faster and looks more coherent than the slightly more frivolous
rich text viewer.

The sideways scrolling happens very frequently. Just position
your mouse a few milimeters to the side of the vertical scroll bar.
Click and move about a little, and voila. The reason why this is so
inconvenient is that I frequently miss the vertical scroll bar by just
a few milimeters when I want to drag it down. Instead of moving down,
the screen then moves sideways. It's a bug and it needs fixing! :)

(Do the developers read this list - that is, if someone reports a bug
here, will someone put it on the ToDo list?)

If they do, I have two further suggestions:

 1. In the F7 Find command: A clear progress indicator is needed.
 2. In the main screen: A button that presents a list of available Quick
Templates, and executes the one that you pick. With that, I could
immediately "send a message to Mum" or "send a pricelist to customer".

Best regards,

-Daan-



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