Re: [OT] I hate HTML mail
Hello Ben, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:35:03 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 06:35 +0700 GMT), Ben Kennish wrote: BK Please please please use a browser based on the Gecko engine (like BK Mozilla or K-Meleon) to give web site designers (such as me) an actual BK standard that we can work to without fear of browsers such as this! I am currently testing Mozilla 1.0 as an alternative to IE 6. What I like is tabbed browsing, but I am not so sure about the security. Why do I say this: In IE, I have many choices for my settings. In Mozilla, there are much less. For example, when I open a web page that contains a PDF file, IE will ask me whether I will allow Active-X while Mozilla just opens the app on my computer without asking me. Where is that setting in Mozilla? Weird enough, I feel safer browsing with IE than with Mozilla. f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Do not be redundant; do not use more words than necessary; it's highly superfluous. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter signatures when writing to file
Hello Ricardo,
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 2:31:48 AM you [RMR] wrote (at least in
part):
RMR I would like to cut the signatures (everything below the '-- ')
RMR before writing the archive, just like the %QUOTES macro does, but
RMR obviously without the Quote prefix in every line.
If you don't already have a regular expression applied to your quotes
macro use this as a starting point:
%SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(^-+ eGroups.*~-~.*-*_-$\s+){0,1}%-
(^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
(.*?)(^(- --\s*\n|--\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)'%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%text'%SUBPATT='4'
and insert it instead of '%Text'.
If you already have a regular expression for quoting you're happy
with: take it, remove the '%Quotes=' and the final '' and put the
rest in your save template, replacing the '%Text'.
HTH Pit
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Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
Hello Blarp, On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:31:58 -0700 GMT (17/07/02, 11:31 +0700 GMT), Blarp wrote: B Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' Apply message B rule now that can run a specific rule (filter) against a selected B folder or all folders manually? The refilter action is not what I B want since it runs all filters in a category, not just a particular B one. No, you cannot just run only one filter. The work-around I use is to mark this filter manual only and then re-filter the folder, choosing manual filters only. It doesn't work in the one account were I do have a manual filter (which I invoke with a short-cut). So, your suggestion is a good wish-list item. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Assign template precedence
Hello Peter, On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:20:22 +0200 GMT (17/07/02, 02:20 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: PF I am sorry to say that I haven't tried it. I will hand on my master PF thesis on Friday so I am fully backed up. Good luck! BTW what are you studying? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reality? Is that where the pizza delivery guy comes from? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
Hello Michael, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:24:44 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 10:24 +0700 GMT), Michael Thompson wrote: TF How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a TF directory once, but cannot remember how I did that. MT I think this program you refer to is Magic Folders available from MT http://pc-magic.com . Yes! (Oh, my memory) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Lothar Matthaeus (ehemaliger Nationalspieler) zum Koks-Skandal um Christoph Daum: Wichtig ist, dass er nun eine klare Linie in sein Leben bringt! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
Hello Dwight, On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:25:44 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 03:25 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC I think always. The games were more primitive of course back in days DAC when computers required their own huge air conditioned rooms and DAC ground to a halt on days when there were brown outs, and backups were DAC reel to reel, etc, and you wrote your programs on a keypunch machine. That's how I started. Actually we didn't have brown outs or other such problems, because that was a prestigious (for the government) research facility, but that didn't make the computers less vulnerable. DAC But there were games. But the computers were not *designed* to entertain. Programmers never grow up - so we built some games. It was a don't let the boss see it kind of thing. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Durch einen Lichtstrahl drangen in der Nacht zum Freitag unbekannte Taeter in den Supermarkt ein. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
Hi Thomas, TF No, you cannot just run only one filter. I suspected as much after going through all the menu options. Sigh. It's a really handy feature when you've just created a rule (filter) and want to run it against your Inbox. One of the few things Outlook Express is better at. (FWIW, Becky 2 can't do it either AFAIK.) -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
MS Exchange LDAP Service
Hoi TBUDL, our corp. email service is base on MS Exchange and Outlook usage. But we all know which email client is the best... My problem is the LDAP-feature. I don't know what to use as search base. When searching i do not receive any results (connection is working). Can anyone give me a tip, or a sample search base? greetinx m.tacker Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Personal Address Book
When opening the Personal Address Book, it opens with a + box at left. You then have to left click on the box to turn it into a - box and to open up the subfolders. Can this be set as the default? Paul - Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Setting a rule for no To, Cc or Bcc ..
Hello Clemens, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:19:53 AM, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Hello The Bat! ML, How can I make a rule, that filters out all mail with no to (emtpy To: ) or CC, BCC ... Would be another small victory in the Fight for SPAM ... well ... it's as easy as it coult be ... just filter all mails out, where the recipient has no '@' in it ... Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.60q on Windows XP, 5 1 Build 2600 on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 8:58:53 AM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Signatures.
Hi Jonathan, On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 16:29 your local time, which was 22:29 my local time, Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote; JA dashdashspacecr (that is --space) As you can see from the below, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for that :-) JA That is a signature delimiter. When you use that, anything below it is JA considered signature, and some email clients will respond accordingly. JA When signing with PGP, the signature delimiter gets replaced with JA dashspacedashdash. PGP - This is something I've been looking into and may need to start a new thread on it. I'm thinking of adding PGP to my messages, but is it more hassle than it's worth? ie. sending the key to friends etc. Sorry if this is a bit ignorant, but I've no knowledge on PGP at all :-( Thanks, Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by AVG. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: MS Exchange LDAP Service
Hallo Markus, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:54:54 +0200GMT (17-7-02, 8:54 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: TM My problem is the LDAP-feature. TM I don't know what to use as search base. Search for '@' in the e-mail address. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Personal Address Book
Hallo Paul, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:55:43 +1000GMT (17-7-02, 8:55 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PB When opening the Personal Address Book, it opens with a + box at left. PB You then have to left click on the box to turn it into a - box and to PB open up the subfolders. Can this be set as the default? The AB remembers where you were when you left it. So select a group and close the AB. Next time you open it all groups are shown. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
Hallo Sudip, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:56:54 +0545GMT (17-7-02, 6:11 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MT Partition Magic will quite happily convert NTFS to FAT / FAT32 and MT Vice versa. SP Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think XP No, but that's because NTFS stores things like ownership of directories and files and those are not implemented in FAT32, for the rest the answer is Yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: [OT] I hate HTML mail
Hi Sudip, On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:24:19 AM, you [SP] wrote: SP Hi Ben, SP On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:35:03 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 05:20 my local time), SP you [BK] wrote: BK Mozilla 1.0 supports tabs just like Opera, comes without any BK adverts and supports resumeable downloads. SP I'm becoming increasingly aware of Opera's shortcomings but I still SP use it primarily because of few features. Does Mozilla have auto SP reload function like Opera? I do not think so at present but you could always suggest this on www.mozilla.org SP Does it 'retain' the browsed webpages, SP like Opera, when you close the program? You can set your home page to be the last visited page but I don't think this will remember all your pages open in different tabs if thats what you mean. I admit that this would be handy too! Regards, -- Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: I hate HTML mail
Hi, Thomas F wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Why not? When I receive HTML mails with embedded objects, they display fine. Just click on the tab below the message. A work-around is to click on the HTML attachment. The whole HTML message will then display in the system-default browser. This doesn't always work. I think it depends on the attachment storage option and on the Content Disposition MIME tag. I know that there are HTML messages that display fine (with images) within the bat but the images come up empty when the HTML part is opened with a browser. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60q/Post6/newhtml under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sudip, @17 July 2002, 09:51 +0545 (05:06 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel [SP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP Since there are new variants only a few days old it is no surprise MDP that AVG didn't spot the infection. SP I think the 'E' variant Rick is talking about is more than a months SP old. All I know is that the naming of the variants of this virus varies from AV vendor SP Norton's definition dated June 15 included this variant. http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.htm shows that AVG picked up what it called the A and F variants on June 13th. Two days before Norton. http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A 'J' variant was found on July 12th with an update from Symantec coming on the same day and from Grisoft on the following day, although given the 7 hour time zone difference that proves nothing. The second link also explains some of the various names given to the variants by the different AV companies. SP So, maybe its a question of which AV company's lab comes out with SP definitions quicker. That would probably be AVG then g. Seriously, it's a matter of which company you trust to be more accurate. I have explained more than once why that will never again be Symantec/Norton for me. SP Besides, Norton's Bloodhound technology is great for detecting SP these variants. I doubt that virus writers would bother releasing a variant unless they knew it circumvented such over-hyped functionality. Since when do we have to trust the label and capabilities given something by a company's marketing department? Especially (no offence intended) one from the USA. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NUFjOeQkq5KdzaARAnjsAJ4p8jH0XwqcfgghDYsyol+sNnRe8wCeP1GY EaxkDPpj9WyvSYqPPemHgjg= =awkp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Assign template precedence
Thomas, On 17-07-2002 08:34, you [T] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: T Good luck! Thanks. T BTW what are you studying? Information Science: humans and computers. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.60q/Post6/newhtml /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sudip, @17 July 2002, 10:01 +0545 (05:16 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel [SP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Michael Thompson: MT varients should still contain something in similar fashioon to the MT origional, and still should be realised. SP I think Norton's Bloodhound technology does this sarcasm What a lovely fluffy clouds syrup and honey thought that is! I think the virus writers should give up now and devote their lives to theological contemplation, don't you? /sarcasm Don't believe everything a marketing department claims for their superior technology. - From one site detailing how lame this technology can actually be: ,-=[ http://www.dessci.com/support/TSN/TSN62.stm ]- According to Symantec, Bloodhound virus is a catch-all name for anything that Norton AntiVirus suspects may be a virus fragment or a variant of a virus. The MathType macros do not contain viruses. This problem has been corrected in Norton's current virus definitions files. ` If Bloodhound technology worked, Norton need never issue an update again! Let's be serious, please. Norton AV is fine for those that can put up with its false positives but the company is too big and irresponsible for my liking. NOD32, AVG and Kapersky are the three top players in my list of responsible and responsive AV outfits. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NUU+OeQkq5KdzaARAk+7AJ0VQZ9Xcob5EsbNoB7rWV6vCDNF2wCeOYm5 un4xyQNGUmCoaTMGoHXjBCg= =kuOS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: personalised mass-mailing?
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 5:35:24 AM, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA In your trekker group properties, select Hide items if not explicitly JA selected. That will prevent the members of the trekker group from JA showing up in your main AB list. Problems with that: I don't want all of them hidden in the main AB list - some are people I correspond with generally. Those are the ones who are currently in both the personal trekker abs. I could make two entries for those, and link only one to the trekker group, but that gives me 2 entries for the same email address, the info for my QT will be pulled from the first entry, which may or not be the complete entry - iow, back to the original problem :-/ Deborah Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Blarp, @17 July 2002, 21:31 -0700 (05:31 UK time) Blarp [B] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The Bat Mailing List: B Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' Apply B message rule now that can run a specific rule (filter) against a B selected folder or all folders manually? Yes. Assign a hotkey to the filter, mark all messages you want to apply the rule to and press the hotkey. B ... Also, the assign to hot key only takes the action of the rule B and not the filtering so it won't work on a folder level. It will if the Check the selected message against this rule is on in the Options. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NUaJOeQkq5KdzaARAmI7AJ4jqbpywQ0WBwAevbhZcTWY+bbWUQCbB5+X vvvDr3Xd5MIOJSaduHpm4X8= =12lQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: personalised mass-mailing?
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 9:54:00 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP You have a default address book. That's what's used for MDP resolution of the macros. Is there a way to make TB use a specific AB in a macro? Something like %Ab*trekker*TOLastName, eg? DW I suppose it would work better if I had the people in the DW Trekker book in the same AB as everyone else, then created a DW Trekker group, rather than a Trekker AB - MDP Yes, yes, YES! That's by far the best way to do it. DW but that has drawbacks of its own :-( MDP It needn't. Subvert one of the unused fields (the AB has *many*) to MDP provide the extra information used by the Trekker group and use the MDP appropriate %AB macro to pull it out into your mass mailing. You'll MDP love it! ;-). That still leaves me with the extra entries in the main view of the personal AB though. Is there a time wheen you *would* recommend the use of more than one AB then? -- Deborah Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:31, Deborah W wrote: That still leaves me with the extra entries in the main view of the personal AB though. Not necessarily. Right click on your address group, select Properties and mark Hide items if not explicitly selected. If I'm not misinterpreting your intentions this should do the trick. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Deborah, @17 July 2002, 11:31 +0100 Deborah W [DW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DW Is there a way to make TB use a specific AB in a macro? Something DW like %Ab*trekker*TOLastName, eg? No :-(. DW That still leaves me with the extra entries in the main view of DW the personal AB though. So make the trekker group one which will Hide items unless explicitly selected. The extra entries are then hidden from the main view of the personal AB. It works well and is a system I use all the time. DW Is there a time wheen you *would* recommend the use of more than DW one AB then? Me? No. I don't bother. I suppose if I sat down and thought about it I could come up with a valid scenario. No. I can't. That's because I have invested a lot of invention into my AB group and individual (of which there are less and less as time goes by and as my group templates and AB field subversion gains in sophistication) templates. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NVRPOeQkq5KdzaARAu33AKDNwKKud73DlJO37z8zuNnK0G8m3wCgjEZ7 GwRwNn/XB4xNWIOyVkOX6NM= =6+6o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
Hello Marck, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:27:20 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 17:27 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: B Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' Apply B message rule now that can run a specific rule (filter) against a B selected folder or all folders manually? MDP Yes. Assign a hotkey to the filter, mark all messages you want to MDP apply the rule to and press the hotkey. What he said (and I agree with) that having to assign a hot-key and then taking it off again (because it is no longer needed) is not as efficient as having a button Apply this one filter only, this time. B ... Also, the assign to hot key only takes the action of the rule B and not the filtering so it won't work on a folder level. MDP It will if the Check the selected message against this rule is MDP on in the Options. Where is this? This might be what we are looking for. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hello Marck, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:26:06 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 18:26 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DW Is there a time wheen you *would* recommend the use of more than DW one AB then? MDP Me? No. I don't bother. I suppose if I sat down and thought about it I MDP could come up with a valid scenario. No. I can't. Here is one: When I used TB in the office, I had one AB for business contacts and another one for private contacts. The accounts (office versus private) had different settings under Account / Properties / General / Default Addressbook. This makes a lof of sense when you click on the mini-AB icon at the right-hand side of the TO/CC fields, or when you use autocomplete. The email addresses from one addressbook will simply not come up when you use the other account, if you know what I mean. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
Hi Marck, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:21:48 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 16:06 my local time), you [MDP] wrote: MDP Don't believe everything a marketing department claims for their MDP superior technology. I don't have a habit of believing big corporate marketing departments; else I'd be using Eudora ! I have a tried and tested experience with NAV for past 6-7 years. I haven't had any problem with NAV in these years and it has stopped all sorts of nasties for me and my clients. Similar experience with other 20+ friends in my tech-circle. - From one site detailing how lame this technology can actually be: http://www.dessci.com/support/TSN/TSN62.stm Snip This site does not pertain Bloodhound is a lame technology, it just outlines an instance where Bloodhound mistook a software called MathType 3.5 for a virus. These types of things occur with technology such as Bloodhound, which relies on logic and guess-work. To my mind, even if Bloodhound misreports 4 out of 5 cases, that one positive ID it makes is a worthwhile endeavor. The rest of the time, you ignore the virus warning (matter of pressing 'c' in NAV) and continue. Besides, you can adjust the sensitivity of Bloodhound detection or turn it off completely. If Bloodhound technology worked, Norton need never issue an update again! I don't agree. Bloodhound is a fuzzy logic type of application which complements the updates not replaces it. As with any fuzzy logic applications, Bloodhound has its share of gray areas, hence the issue with MathType 3.5. Today, this type of detection mechanism is in its infancy and NAV is the pioneer, who knows maybe Kaspersky will incorporate similar innovation in future and improve it? I'd say instead of bashing such a potential technology, we need to support it, our personal preference to NAV notwithstanding. -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] A wishbone has never taken place of a backbone Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 11:20 PM, you wrote: MDP -=[ From the Grisoft site ]- MDP Update 377 available. Added detection of three new variants of MDP I-Worm/Frethem. - July 15, 2002 - MDP ` MDP Since there are new variants only a few days old it is no surprise MDP that AVG didn't spot the infection. I have just updated and one that MDP got through on Monday is spotted now. MDP This is always going to be a problem with *any* AV software. Any new MDP variants and especially a completely new virus won't be spotted until MDP at least one person reports it to the AV vendor for them to update their MDP database and issue a new one. I am having a problem with MY system. It crashed and burned and I had to rebuild it. In the process, I can't get Roxio Easy Cd to work, so I started looking in the discussion lists on Roxio's web site. Someone mentioned that my problem might be from the W32.Klez.H@mm virus. I have AVG running, and I also downloaded and tried Mcafee, neither found a virus. This problem first appeared after my wife ( running Outlook) checked her email ( Outlook) and swears she did nothing wrong. / Paul Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
Hi Marck, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:21:48 +0100, you wrote: Let's be serious, please. Norton AV is fine for those that can put up with its false positives but the company is too big and irresponsible for my liking. NOD32, AVG and Kapersky are the three top players in my list of responsible and responsive AV outfits. Have you heard of Sophos? They're pretty good. I have that running on the mail server itself (they develop clients/servers fro most OSes), and it auto-updates daily for me. Their support team is amazing, their sales staff (not saying much I guess) are great, nice and friendly, their virus software is accurate, and runs on a very small footprint, and HDD space (the server version I'm running, including all virus definition files takes up no more than 300KB). It is mainly a UK based vendor, but they have branches all over the world, and could easily put Norton, and McAffe in a trash can (IHMO). Plus I've been getting notifications and updates on all viruses about 3-5 days before Symantec/other big time vendors have even heard of it, including ones that Symantec etc don't bother mentioning such as Word macro viruses (can't believe people still write these). It's certainly nice to be informed ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @17 July 2002, 18:42 +0700 (12:42 UK time) Thomas F [TF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL: B ... Also, the assign to hot key only takes the action of the rule B and not the filtering so it won't work on a folder level. MDP It will if the Check the selected message against this rule is MDP on in the Options. TF Where is this? This might be what we are looking for. Sorting office | (filter) | Options | Execute action ... It's an option of the Hotkey setting. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NV8MOeQkq5KdzaARApR/AJ9gCa68h1bDmqIyPTeEhkQk+cCXMwCguLla vn1bG9nvOh0wg7nXNacHXxU= =waxP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: PGP (was: Re[2]: Signatures.)
Hi Chris, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:07:44 +0100, you wrote: PGP - This is something I've been looking into and may need to start a new thread on it. I'm thinking of adding PGP to my messages, but is it more hassle than it's worth? ie. sending the key to friends etc. Sorry if this is a bit ignorant, but I've no knowledge on PGP at all :-( It really depends on if you'd find it useful of not. I mean, are your emails so important, and have such a risk of people modifying them that you have to sign them so that the destination source can verify they've really come from who they say it did? Do the parties involved also have PGP? As for sending keys, it's easy to do that automatically, or even put them right up there on the PGP key servers, and people can download from there. Or you can write a PGP key filter that looks for a certain string in (say in the subject), and mails out your PGP key to that person. As for the hassle, it isn't too bad. TB! has a few DLLs that are useable, and mean you can integrate PGP right into TB!, the rest is pretty simple. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: AVG didn't catch
Hello Marck, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:56:02 AM, you wrote : MDP We just said that in a long thread discussing the plug-in thesis. The MDP middle man approach slows down *all* mail while plug-ins are only MDP called when there is an attachment worth looking at. MDP Please read the recent thread exploring these issue in depth under the MDP topic OT: Antivirus software review. Sorry, new to the list. -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage
Hello Sudip, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 5:11:54 AM, you wrote : SP Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think XP SP converts FAT32 to NTFS without having to format the drive , thereby SP maintaining data integrity. Yes, it is completly safe, (Version 5) And will not lose any data at all. You are correct that WinXP does not lose data, it does this by modifing the first section of the drive only, and files are not converted until use, though thry appear to have been converted, this saves on time. (Like a quick format when installing) So basicly it does on the fly conversion sector by sector until the drive is converted completly. Where as utils like Partition Magic do the entire drive at once. -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:36:21 AM, you wrote : RO No, but that's because NTFS stores things like ownership of RO directories and files and those are not implemented in FAT32, for the RO rest the answer is Yes. Yes, but if you dont considure this to be data then it aint important. and if you are converting to FAT32 then you should expect to lose this. as FAT32 is not a secure filesystem (Neither is NTFS come to think about it.) -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[4]: OT: Sharing after marriage (PGP Issues)
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:40:39 AM, you wrote : JA In what way? I uninstalled, and reinstalled two times versions (one was a JA different version, the other was because I missed a package) on WinXP only 3 JA weeks ago... not had any issues. PGP 7.5 was to add Windows XP support, but due to the reorganization of NAI, it looks like PGP 7.5 will never make it out of production. I'm told that the basic functions of PGP 6.5.x and 7.x versions appear to work properly in WinXP, if the PGPnet and PGPvpn components (PGPfire may also be a problem) are not installed - DO NOT install the PGPnet and/or PGPvpn component on Windows XP. A couple PGP 7.0.3 users report having an 'IP Stack Disabled' problem when having installed the PGPnet component, but being able to resolve it by running the command sc config ipsec start= system at the command prompt (without the quotation marks) - there is report that this will then even let you use the PGP Personal Firewall. If you made the mistake of installing PGPnet, PGPvpn, and/or PGPfire, and need to remove it, Microsoft advises the use of System Restore - they warn against attempting to resolve this by uninstalling PGP, because doing so uninstalls the TCP/IP stack, and the TCP/IP stack does not support manual reinstallation. However, there is also report that the above command will resolve this resulting uninstall problem. There are problems with the PGPdisk drive not appearing in Windows Explorer (this is fixed in PGP 7.1.1), and there are problems with the Outlook and Outlook Express plug-ins and their expected PGP buttons (icons) on the tool bars (I'm not aware of a fix for these plug-in problems, but the PGP Current Window option should work). At least one person reports not being able to install PGP 7.0.x to an NTFS partition. PGP 7.1.x is reported to have preliminary work for support of Outlook XP, but Outlook XP is not officially supported. -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
Hello Marck, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:11:54 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 19:11 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Sorting office | (filter) | Options | Execute action ... MDP It's an option of the Hotkey setting. Found it. So you will still have to assign one hotkey for each filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was ist ein Optimist ? - Jemand der das eine Fernsehprogramm langweilig findet und auf das andere umschaltet! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: I hate HTML mail
Hello Markus, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 10:16:34 AM, you wrote : MG This doesn't always work. I think it depends on the attachment storage MG option and on the Content Disposition MIME tag. I know that there are MG HTML messages that display fine (with images) within the bat but the MG images come up empty when the HTML part is opened with a browser. It depends whether the imae is referneced on a web server or local dos'nt it? -- Best regards, Michael Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Automatic backups?
Hello tbudl, Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure?? -- Best regards, Michael http://web.ukonline.co.uk/thompsonmike/ 'To see a world in a grain of sand And heaven in a wild flower To hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour' Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @17 July 2002, 19:28 +0700 (13:28 UK time) Thomas F [TF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL: MDP It's an option of the Hotkey setting. TF Found it. So you will still have to assign one hotkey for each TF filter. Yes. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NWVDOeQkq5KdzaARAu90AJ41g1Fh9fUX1OvNC5gjCPpLsuqHrwCfdoyl pZ4eZC9lf+JC0hGBLxJJzQs= =QTmh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: I hate HTML mail
Hello Markus, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:16:34 AM, you wrote: I know that there are MG HTML messages that display fine (with images) within the bat but the MG images come up empty when the HTML part is opened with a browser. I am wondering what causes this? It drives me batty.. also some html messages are totally unreadable because of this issue too. even the plain text doesn't show what is missing in the html view.. almost all of my html mail have x's where the pictures are. -- Best regards, alistsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
TBUDL archive?
Hello TBUDL, Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.61 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hi Greg, On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 08:51:55 [GMT -0500], you wrote: GS Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived? Yes, they do. You haven't looked at the message footer for a while, have you? :-) -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Greg, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:51:55 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 20:51 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived? Check the footer of this very reply. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Many people quit looking for work when they find a job. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 5:11:54 AM, Sudip wrote: Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think XP converts FAT32 to NTFS without having to format the drive , thereby maintaining data integrity. It will convert FAT32 to NTFS safely. However, you don't get the best results by doing so, as you usually end up with 512 byte clusters, which tends to make it very slow. You are better off (if you can) copying your data somewhere else and creating and formatting the NTFS partition from scratch, then re-instating your data. Regards Christopher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
Hi Paul, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:03:33 PM, you wrote: PC I have AVG running, and I also downloaded and tried Mcafee, PC neither found a virus. Try Norton AV ;-) Seriously, my suggestion is to maybe just try Command AV internet check up. It worked for me when I had a similar problem and was running AVG. It found a virus others had missed. Maybe other people have better suggestions ... I'm just speaking from my own experience. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Charity consulting: http://www.coaching-lab.com Web development/hosting: http://www.buzzdns.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage
Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 10:56:35 AM, you wrote: [snip] TF I believe for dual boot you need seperate partitions anyway. TF (Partition Magic comes to mind.) If you have programs or data on the TF NTFS partition (and you will have), I have no idea whether it is TF possible to recover these when you go back to FAT32. I haven't dual booted for some time, but I do use Partition Magic fairly regularly. It will convert some file systems back and forth safely - as I rarely do that, unless someone has carelessly formatted a 20G partition to FAT and it needs to go to NTFS, I don't remember the lurid details, but it will do some for sure. No doubt the latest version will do more than the one I am using, too. A very reliable utility, in my experience. Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: [OT] I hate HTML mail
Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 4:35:03 PM, you wrote: [snip] BK NOOO! Why do you use Opera? It isn't properly CSS or HTML compliant! BK Please please please use a browser based on the Gecko engine (like BK Mozilla or K-Meleon) to give web site designers (such as me) an actual BK standard that we can work to without fear of browsers such as this! BK Mozilla 1.0 supports tabs just like Opera, comes without any adverts and BK supports resumeable downloads. I can't speak for Richard, but I use Opera (have for several years), and find very few sites that don't display properly - though there are a few with java functions I have to go to IE for. Apart from the tabs (I often have a dozen pages open on loading), I like the way it's hotlists work, and it's options for form filling. It's stability is much less critical now than it was when I started using it, but that was an issue. I did dl Mozilla, but haven't checked it out yet .. One day I'll do that, and hopefully will never have to resort to the Infernal Exploder again. BK But hey, at least we're not talking Netscape 4.7. Don't even get me BK started on that! ;) No chance :-) Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:39:20 AM, Thomas F wrote: Actually we didn't have brown outs or other such problems, because that was a prestigious (for the government) research facility I was computing in New York, and on hot summer days the brown outs were for the whole metro area. By noon you were lucky of you could even read a stack of cards -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage
Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:47:11 AM, you wrote: [snip] JA Although they found the plain text switch... try looking at the JA headers. If I remember correctly, (at least the version I saw JA anyway), put in a whole load of X- headers for other incredimail JA users, which can create a substantial over head... especially as one JA plain text mail that was sent to a list had nearly 22 X-* headers for JA just a plain text message. JA - -- JA Jonathan Angliss [snip] No doubt .. but even that is better than some of the formatting that comes from these things. I don't really care what they use, but I always appreciate it if they'll turn it all off and just send text when sending to me :-) Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote... No doubt .. but even that is better than some of the formatting that comes from these things. I don't really care what they use, but I always appreciate it if they'll turn it all off and just send text when sending to me :-) I agree totally... but that is my opinion. I personally cannot stand emails flying into my inbox with size 50 purple font, on yellow backgrounds (which is always the case from a friend). That is something I like about TB!, the ability to turn off the HTML when it comes in. I unfortunately couldn't work out how to do that in OE/OL. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWOCSuD6BT4/R9zEQK2zgCgjCKDubamZxGQTrxEFFNTtaDBgdoAn3RF GLdSv2IfeQm0Rh9hbhE4kyaR =jyxM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
Hi Marck, TF Found it. So you will still have to assign one hotkey for each TF filter. MDP Yes. It also needs to handle it like OE. Select the filter, choose Apply Now and up comes a list box showing folders. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage
Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:32:20 AM, you wrote: [snip] JA I personally cannot stand emails flying into my inbox JA with size 50 purple font, on yellow backgrounds (which JA is always the case from a friend). That is something I JA like about TB!, the ability to turn off the HTML when JA it comes in. I unfortunately couldn't work out how to JA do that in OE/OL. JA - -- JA Jonathan Angliss That's no joy, but it's the 5pt fonts in pale green on pale blue that make me froth at the mouth .. if you don't want it read, why send it? lol! Websites, too, come to think of it .. Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
Hello Dwight, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:23:14 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 22:23 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC I was computing in New York, and on hot summer days the brown outs DAC were for the whole metro area. By noon you were lucky of you could DAC even read a stack of cards Well, over in Hamburg, the computer read the cards - I never really figured out all those rectangular holes, and the computer was faster anyway. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Who the hell wants to hear actors talk? -- H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:54:53 AM, you wrote: TF Check the footer of this very reply. ;-) Yes, I know the URL which re-directs you to http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/. I've check the archive for [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and either I missed it, or it is not there. This is a reply message dated 7/14/02. I did the search on the subject Trouble checking mail with ALT F2. So I'll ask my original question again. Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.61 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... So I'll ask my original question again. Does all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get archived? Yes... but as far as I can guess... the headers are stripped out, so you may not be able to search for a message id. http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44050.html Would that be the message you were after? Unfortunately the search facility doesn't seem to work quite as well as liked, I had to go to search for the thread (like you did), open the first message, and use the thread navigator buttons (-- thread --) and went through it like that. It could be because it got nested really deep into the thread that the mail search doesn't go that far. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWVKiuD6BT4/R9zEQJi7wCdElfMBsxbx0wQsgjAiEg/sRY0yFgAn26H i+LXPQM/GBYUQRRYeKdUaCNN =MXzH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: AVG didn't catch
Replying to your message of Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 9:20:26 PM: MDP This is always going to be a problem with *any* AV software. Any new MDP variants and especially a completely new virus won't be spotted until MDP at least one person reports it to the AV vendor for them to update their MDP database and issue a new one. Hey Marck, This is true only if you have an anti virus that is based on daily signatures to be effective. If you have a solution that is based on rule sets and policies, as well as signatures, your vulnerability will be greatly decreased. -- Pete www.milneweb.com Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:04:07 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.61 Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Apply filter now? (REPOST)
Dear Thomas, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:28:46 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Marck, TF On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:11:54 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 19:11 +0700 GMT), TF Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Sorting office | (filter) | Options | Execute action ... MDP It's an option of the Hotkey setting. TF Found it. So you will still have to assign one hotkey for each filter. You can assign hotkey to refilter action (in folders menu) When you select folder and press this hotkey - it will ask what ruleset to apply (income/read/ replied etc) - that's all. Ofcourse, I assume, that inbox was processed by other filters before. So you will check only newly created filter(s). -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.62/Beta1, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [OT] I hate HTML mail
Hello Ben! On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 1:35:03 AM you wrote: NOOO! Why do you use Opera? It isn't properly CSS or HTML compliant! Actually it is 100% HTML 4 compliant. And CSS. It only lacks in DOM. Please please please use a browser based on the Gecko engine Please, please use a car based on the Wankelmotor ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If you give up drinking, smoking and sex, you don't live longer. It just seems like it. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:02:46 AM, you wrote: JA Yes... but as far as I can guess... the headers are stripped out, so JA you may not be able to search for a message id. I tried to search on ID, but was unsuccessful. As you, I discovered that headers are gone in archive. So unless someone can tell me otherwise, you can NOT search on message ID. JA http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44050.html JA Would that be the message you were after? Yes! Thank you! I must have missed it this AM. I wish I was on wide band. Doing search on dial up can take time which causes frustration when unsuccessful. JA Unfortunately the search facility doesn't seem to work quite as JA well as liked, I had to go to search for the thread (like you JA did), open the first message, and use the thread navigator buttons JA (-- thread --) and went through it like that. I agree search function could be better, but something is better than nothing. JA It could be because it got nested really deep into the thread that JA the mail search doesn't go that far. I don't know. This thread did meander. If someone knows a better way to use search function in archive, I hope they would fill us in. g -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Greg, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:29:47 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 23:29 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS I don't know. This thread did meander. If someone knows a better way GS to use search function in archive, I hope they would fill us in. g If it's any consolation, I was trying to your message in the archives after your posting and couldn't find it either. I even tried searching for some key words in the message body (like factor/possibility) but still came up negative. FWIW I keep 180 days' worth of messages for this list on my computer, and that's where I search (if necessary), using TB's superior search facility. If it's older than 180 days, well then I don't have it. Hardly ever matters. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was langsam faehrt, hat einen Hut. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... Yes! Thank you! I must have missed it this AM. I wish I was on wide band. Doing search on dial up can take time which causes frustration when unsuccessful. I didn't find it when I searched... and I have a very wide band ;) I can download 85meg files in about 89 seconds via FTP... at least that was the speed this morning when I tried ;) I even tried putting in the first line to see if it'd fine it, and it didn't. I don't know. This thread did meander. If someone knows a better way to use search function in archive, I hope they would fill us in. g I don't think it's because the thread meandered... I think it could be because it went too deep for the search to maybe record it. For example the list search may have a cut off point like this: - - Msg 1 - Msg 2 - Msg 3 - Msg 4 (Cut off point) - Msg 5 In that instance, Msg 5 may not be searched... just an idea, and I guess very possible based on the fact that you cannot see all the items in the list when you display via thread view. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWdwiuD6BT4/R9zEQITvACgyXJhltOMQ078xSKIf82NhZXe6oIAn3Ks ZAvrDwnnNMDd13MWpSXR8lGn =wukG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pete, @17 July 2002, 10:06 -0600 (17:06 UK time) Pete Milne [PM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: PM This is true only if you have an anti virus that is based on daily PM signatures to be effective. If you have a solution that is based on rule PM sets and policies, as well as signatures, your vulnerability will be PM greatly decreased. LOL! Blimey! What a load of baloney you lot manage to digest and store! That was pure techno-babble! I mean no offence by this. As an older statesman of the software industry I've seen a lot of claims and counter claims (and made a few) and they always amuse me. Look, virus writers take it as a challenge to write one that will dive in under the scanners of the leading AV players. That's the challenge and the meat and two veg of what they *do*. Their purpose. Their raison d'etre. That's all you need to understand to realize that the AV vendors will *ALWAYS* be playing catch up. That's *their* job. Anything else they say is just wishful thinking and marketing hype. Virus are written to work, not to be caught before they leave the starting pistol. Hey - guess what - people get hit by them! So they *do* works. And AV software doesn't, not until a new virus has been identified catalogued and added to the database. That's a fact. Let's not have any more of the hype here please. It's a paliative at best and a false security at worst. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NZ4/OeQkq5KdzaARAlkUAKDBK847y4WIyjqu5duW4NmQv93vMQCcCdDd udJji/iM0AG7y5jtudlxeBg= =Wxnw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Launch Failure
A bug report failed to get a response, so I'll see if anyone here has had this problem--and a solution: TheBat! refuses to launch under WinXPpro. The splash screen displays, TheBat! appears in the task bar, but both disappear after a few seconds, and TheBat! never completely starts. I had reinstalled 1.60c, installed 1.60q--all with no improvement. Once was I would have this problem now and the--rebooting always solved it. Now it's a solid problem. Any ideas? TIA... Curt Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
DEAD HORSE (was [OT] I hate HTML mail)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, @17 July 2002, 18:10 +0200 (17:10 UK time) Dierk Haasis [DH] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Ben Kennish: NOOO! Why do you use Opera? It isn't properly CSS or HTML compliant! DH Actually it is 100% HTML 4 compliant. And CSS. It only lacks in DOM. moderator This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce it dead. I have replied to TBOT (because I don't mind carrying it on, as long as it's not here). For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. Thank you. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NZ9TOeQkq5KdzaARAvq1AKDx8WQAs3UCAnwyMYluNxpCOe/7nwCcCDlf rNCaoya33HuMu5fJ+Vbx4qg= =eZgi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B
How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail can be downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can be commanded by either computer and the e-mail can be read by either computer? If possible, this setup would insure that all mail is in one place, and would allow anyone on the network to read all of it. FWIW, I am currently using XP Home OS, and The Bat ver. 1.53, but will upgrade to current version at the time I set up the network. -- Thanks, Avi. Avram Sacks Chicago, IL sac [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Importing some fields into AB
Hey Joseph, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Business' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 4:24:48 PM. JN Forgive my asking a question here as a shortcut; I think I could JN trial-and-error my way to an answer of this, but I don't have the JN time: I need to import several hundred records into a new AB group JN from another program. The address records in that other program JN all have titles such as Mr., Ms., Dr., etc. I don't want those in JN my TB! group, but if I import them my customary way, as vCards, JN all fields come over. Is there a way to import everything except JN the contents of a specified field? How about editing your .vcf file and stripping out the titles? A good text editor (like TextPad, Vim, UltraEdit, etc.) should be able to do that fairly easily. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:39:26 AM, you wrote: JA I didn't find it when I searched... and I have a very wide band ;) I JA can download 85meg files in about 89 seconds via FTP... at least that JA was the speed this morning when I tried ;) Wow that is fast. JA I even tried putting in JA the first line to see if it'd fine it, and it didn't. I assume you mean when you searched off web. JA I think it could be because it went too deep for the search to JA maybe record it. For example the list search may have a cut off JA point like this: JA - - Msg 1 JA - Msg 2 JA - Msg 3 JA - Msg 4 JA (Cut off point) JA - Msg 5 JA In that instance, Msg 5 may not be searched... just an idea, and I JA guess very possible based on the fact that you cannot see all the JA items in the list when you display via thread view. I wish one of the moderators would answer and take the guessing out of this. What good is a search when or if it does NOT search the entire archive from web? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:35:40 AM, you wrote: TF If it's any consolation, I was trying to your message in the archives TF after your posting and couldn't find it either. I even tried searching TF for some key words in the message body (like factor/possibility) but TF still came up negative. See Jonathan's message/reply per [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. TF FWIW I keep 180 days' worth of messages for this list on my computer, TF and that's where I search (if necessary), using TB's superior search TF facility. If it's older than 180 days, well then I don't have it. TF Hardly ever matters. I only keep 30 days worth. I'm trying to minimize HD space. I thought I'd use archive when older. This experience of mine tells me either we are approaching search wrong, or I can NOT rely on archive. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... JA I even tried putting in the first line to see if it'd fine it, JA and it didn't. I assume you mean when you searched off web. Yes... I found it from the msgid in my message base, and then used that to try finding it in the archives. I wish one of the moderators would answer and take the guessing out of this. Would be good. ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWn9CuD6BT4/R9zEQLPXwCg8+EpDoXqJeFJ16o4PMIUI39VXQsAmweJ NlgVDkA1MyU6dy/HBAxdkk2t =uGvo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 11:39:26 AM, you wrote: JA I didn't find it when I searched... and I have a very wide band ;) JA I can download 85meg files in about 89 seconds via FTP... at least JA that was the speed this morning when I tried ;) I even tried JA putting in the first line to see if it'd fine it, and it didn't. I understand this to mean you found it after you downloaded archived messages. How did you download TB! archive? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Well off topics
Hello tbudl, I know this may not be the place for this, but I am really starting to get bugged by this. I am using WinXP Professional and every once in a while I am unable to delete some directorys, rename them etc. I get the Message that it may be in use by another process or user. there are no other users, and there are no processes using any directorys. ( I have shut down the Indexing Service) the files within the directorys can still be deleted, renamed etc, just the directory. A reboot enables deletion. Any one got any Ideas? -- Best regards, Michael http://web.ukonline.co.uk/thompsonmike/ 'To see a world in a grain of sand And heaven in a wild flower To hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour' Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... I understand this to mean you found it after you downloaded archived messages. How did you download TB! archive? I didn't... I meant I downloaded a file this morning, was 85megs, and I got it in about 89 seconds. Was just showing how having wide band really didn't make any different in searching the archives ;) There is some list archiving software that actually allows you to download the archives in .txt or .tar.gz (those non-unix can open that in winzip), but I've not seen any sign (not really looked) of that for this list. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWp3yuD6BT4/R9zEQJo0ACbBUEF2cMWXhHsV/k0RTNhTmjXpPAAn206 gIrW3KlvPgLVy3mzG0A4iugE =dvAN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Well off topics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Michael Thompson wrote... I am using WinXP Professional and every once in a while I am unable to delete some directorys, rename them etc. I get the Message that it may be in use by another process or user. there are no other users, and there are no processes using any directorys. ( I have shut down the Indexing Service) the files within the directorys can still be deleted, renamed etc, just the directory. A reboot enables deletion. Any one got any Ideas? I have that issue too, but I have it using Novell servers (the novell client with WinXP is really bad). When I try overwriting/deleting/moving files on the server, it throws that message, or the file/folder doesn't exist message which is even more confusing. I do most of the moving about on the server via my Win98 machine ;) Sorry I cannot give you any ideas to solve it though. Wouldn't mind some myself. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWqrCuD6BT4/R9zEQKhTACeJiLOK4obPVcNhj861CwV3q6+KP0AoI+T kbYzvM3k0BQasw2RPh9RPbX3 =0b4I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Color Groups in INBOX message list
Hello everybody, I don't seem to be able to make TB give the proper colors to the mex as they arrive into the Inbox. There seems to be no way that i can tell it : every time you get mex from/to XY paint it... pink. And if *I* have to do it manually _after_ I've received and read all my mex, then the feature for me is moot. Can anybody explain to me what I'm doing wrong, please? Thanks, -- Joyce mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... I only keep 30 days worth. I'm trying to minimize HD space. I thought I'd use archive when older. This experience of mine tells me either we are approaching search wrong, or I can NOT rely on archive. I was going to snip mine down a bit, but decided to keep it as it contains nuggets of info all over the place, and it's quicker, and more accurate to search for things in TB than via the archive. There was some mentioning of local archiving via another program a while back. My archives go back to when I signed up, which was back in May I think... I have just a little over 6,000 messages in the TBUDL folder. http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg31914.html ^^ Was one thread. Another was a thread with the topic CD-Rom Archives unfortunately I cannot get the list archives to go back to 7th of May, but if you'd like a copy, I can zip the thread up, and mail it over. Some mentions of packages such as MailBag appeared in the thread. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWsASuD6BT4/R9zEQK+3wCeLZ6uDZbvItqWOn7gIBb1mpcedCkAni8T c+VurH+RNYRAtwrBuFYAOGJ7 =ewfv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Well off topics
Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 10:34:24 AM, you wrote: JA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JA Hash: SHA1 JA On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Michael Thompson wrote... I am using WinXP Professional and every once in a while I am unable to delete some directorys, rename them etc. I get the Message that it may be in use by another process or user. [snip] Here too, with WinNT4 and W2kPro. W2k seems a little better at releasing the files .. sometimes a drive refresh will do it. Sometimes not. Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Off topic messages
I've just had to download dozens (hundreds?) of messages dealing with someone's computer usage issues with his wife, people hating HTML mail, etc. And, now the threat that a new thread will develop around XP problems. It's all nice and friendly and cosy, but a waste of time in both downloading and sorting through messages for people primarily interested in help/information about TB. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:40:13 PM, you wrote: JA Some mentions of packages such as MailBag appeared in the thread. IIRC I might have started that thread. My memory tells me that Melissa Reese informed me of Mailbag. Do you have a URL for Mailbag? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg, @17 July 2002, 12:20 -0500 (18:20 UK time) Greg Strong [GS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan Angliss: JA In that instance, Msg 5 may not be searched... just an idea, and I JA guess very possible based on the fact that you cannot see all the JA items in the list when you display via thread view. GS I wish one of the moderators would answer and take the guessing out of GS this. What good is a search when or if it does NOT search the entire GS archive from web? That won't help g. We don't run the archive. It's a public facility. Just make the archive submission address a member of the list and messages get archived. How it works beyond that is beyond me/us. See http://www.mail-archive.com for access to About and FAQ screens for the archive service. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Na8vOeQkq5KdzaARAkHKAKCDMmQBHrXY0mAHprT8AJQbjT7svQCdGcZm 2kt4/cKZaB2IS4+R/VQGEUU= =xF9k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Greg Strong wrote... IIRC I might have started that thread. My memory tells me that Melissa Reese informed me of Mailbag. Do you have a URL for Mailbag? http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.html -- that look right? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTWweyuD6BT4/R9zEQLA7gCfaojTEoBH7NWG6YqsjkuQ/kwra6wAn0E6 CCmPJpZVQP69p6wAPvaALP4K =E2M2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL archive?
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:40:13 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I was going to snip mine down a bit, but decided to keep it I just moved several thousand older messages from TBUDL and TBBETA to a folder in a dummy account. Those folders don't get compressed on exit. It has speeded up closing, and also opening those two folders. But the messages are still there for searching if needed. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Launch Failure
Hello, Curt: This won't help you now, but I notice that my local computer retailer has stern warning for all who walk up to the counter. They say there are numerous SW problems due to XP issues and that they will not offer any SW support for boxes running XP. Even when they have sold the box and software installed. It is a very generalized warning. Best regards, David Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:46:23 PM, you wrote: C A bug report failed to get a response, so I'll see if anyone here has C had this problem--and a solution: C TheBat! refuses to launch under WinXPpro. The splash screen displays, C TheBat! appears in the task bar, but both disappear after a few C seconds, and TheBat! never completely starts. I had reinstalled 1.60c, installed 1.60q--all with no C improvement. C Once was I would have this problem now and the--rebooting always C solved it. Now it's a solid problem. C Any ideas? C TIA... C Curt C C Current Ver: 1.61 C FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com C Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com C Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Access Violation Error
Hi Batpeople, Just upgraded to XP and I've been getting an Access Violation Error dialog box upon launching TB! It doesn't appear every time I launch TB! but after 2 or 3 launches. Any ideas? -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] Never trust a stockbroker who's married to a travel agent Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hi Deborah, on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:01:39 +0100GMT (16.07.02, 19:01 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DW You know that junk-mail you get? Oh yeah... *sigh* DW I need to do that with emails. Oh heavens! ;-) There is a mass mailing feature in TB!, but I haven't used it yet. You need an address book group for it, so much I followed the threads. :-) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Gilberto Gil Caetano Veloso - Cada Macaco No Seu Galho Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Off topic messages
Hello Paula, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) GMT (18/07/02, 00:53 +0700 GMT), PFord wrote: P I've just had to download dozens (hundreds?) mere dozons. P of messages dealing with [OT stuff] The mods are out of trouts... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. IF THERE IS NO GOD, WHO POPS UP THE NEXT KLEENEX? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Color Groups in INBOX message list
Hello Joyce, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:46:31 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 01:46 +0700 GMT), Joyce Sala wrote: JS I don't seem to be able to make TB give the proper colors to the mex JS as they arrive into the Inbox. There seems to be no way that i can JS tell it : every time you get mex from/to XY paint it... pink. Works here. I don't use pink for my boss but blue JS Can anybody explain to me what I'm doing wrong, please? If you don't mind posting the fitler here, we'll dissect it (vicously, as usual g). Go to the filter, press crtl-C, and paste into your reply. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Access Violation Error
Hello Sudip, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:10:16 +0545 GMT (18/07/02, 01:25 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: SPJust upgraded to XP and I've been getting an Access Violation Error SPdialog box upon launching TB! It doesn't appear every time I launch SPTB! but after 2 or 3 launches. Any ideas? No, because you don't post the text of the AV warning. And I understand that XP is not an upgrade. g -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat six. (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Well off topics
Hello Jonathan Angliss, You wrote on 17/07/2002, 19:34: Jonathan I have that issue too, but I have it using Novell servers (the novell Jonathan client with WinXP is really bad). You really should check in Novell Client - Advanced Properties that File Caching is set to OFF and File Commit is set to ON. They come with wrong defaults in Novell Client 4.83 and it caused a lot of stability and speed problems in my workplace. Cheers, SyP -- The girl of your dreams is unavailable except in print. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Well off topics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, SyP wrote... You really should check in Novell Client - Advanced Properties that File Caching is set to OFF and File Commit is set to ON. They come with wrong defaults in Novell Client 4.83 and it caused a lot of stability and speed problems in my workplace. XP Novell client (one that gets installed with XP I mean) doesn't have an advanced page ;) But thanks for the suggestion. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTW9QCuD6BT4/R9zEQLYJgCgqkDpALKevWjxcEt5BXduWE1YYPEAoPD9 oLlHigeY+hqnsQxTj0slI1Mj =ot9/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hello Peter, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:59:59 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 01:59 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM Is this on DutaInt's behalf or somewhere else? Looking at the headers of that missing message: PM Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.176] helo=moutng2.kundenserver.de) PM by home.worldless.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2001) PM id 17UtQ6-88-00 PM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:21:03 +0700 PM Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng0.kundenserver.de) PM by moutng2.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) PM id 17UXc2-lW-00 PM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:54 +0200 ... well, you can figure it out. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For drowning: Climb on top of the person and move up and down to make artificial perspiration. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hi Peter, on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:59:59 +0200GMT (17.07.02, 20:59 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM Wow, great! my message of yesterday has arrived! ;o) I wonder where it PM spent the time in between. *G* Now there's only one more missing... PM Is this on DutaInt's behalf or somewhere else? I looked at the message's headers. Some servers seem to have received it with a wrong dateline. It was sent on July 16, and some responses show July 18: ,- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | Received: from [203.130.233.9] (helo=home.worldless.net) | by mxng03.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) | id 17UtWc-0006tV-00 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:27:47 +0200 | Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=thebat.dutaint.com) | by home.worldless.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2001) | id 17UtQ9-8Q-00; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:21:05 +0700 | Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.176] |helo=moutng2.kundenserver.de) | by home.worldless.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2001) | id 17UtQ6-88-00 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:21:03 +0700 | Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng0.kundenserver.de) | by moutng2.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) | id 17UXc2-lW-00 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:54 +0200 | Received: from [217.230.167.250] (helo=pD9E6A7FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | by mrelayng0.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) | id 17UXc2-0001Ag-00 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:54 +0200 | Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:04:31 +0200 | From: Peter Meyns [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- I'd really like to know why those delays happen. :-) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Paulina Rubio - Vive El Verano Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Well off topics
Hello Marcus, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:11:42 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 02:11 +0700 GMT), Marcus Ohlström wrote: MO Ehrr? What is a drive refresh? From www.microsoft/windows/hiddenfeatures/refresh : In order to achieve best performance, you should sometimes choose Start / Run and key in the command Format C: (without quotes). Of course, you can choose any drive you want. You'll be surpised how much free space you get. (@mods: I hear the trouts are out for spawning season). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:13:22 +0700GMT (17.07.02, 21:13 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM Is this on DutaInt's behalf or somewhere else? TF Looking at the headers of that missing message: PM Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.176] helo=moutng2.kundenserver.de) PM by home.worldless.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2001) PM id 17UtQ6-88-00 PM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:21:03 +0700 PM Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng0.kundenserver.de) PM by moutng2.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) PM id 17UXc2-lW-00 PM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:54 +0200 TF ... well, you can figure it out. ;-) So you suggest it's in kundenserver's responsibility? I'll complain to them! *S* Have a good night, Thomas :-) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Laura Pausini - Siamo Noi Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Message submitted to 'tbudl'
Hi Marck On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Marck wrote the following on the subject Message submitted to 'tbudl' -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Terry, There is a problem with this message to the list. It didn't make it there. It was intercepted by the server for us to look at because: Failed administrivia check on pattern '^unsubscribe$' To unsubscribe, follow the instructions in 1) the welcome message you got when you joined, 2) the monthly mission statement 3) the FAQ or 4) every message sent out by the list!! ;-). 5) If all else fails, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait for the Confirm response. Reply to that. That should do it. I don't know what I did wrong...since I just clicked on the Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; that is on every message sent out by the list!! ;-) ...but I am sure that I screwed up somewhere. I will follow your advice. Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 1.61 under Windows 2000 Service Pack 1 2195 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hello Peter, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:28:30 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 02:28 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM So you suggest it's in kundenserver's responsibility? I'll PM complain to them! *S* I don't suggest. I *know*. ;-) PM Have a good night, Thomas :-) Thanks. I'll be hitting the sack soon. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Es war eine machtvolle Demonstration. Der Marktplatz war voller Menschen. In den Nebenstrassen pflanzten sich Maenner und Frauen fort. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
DEAD HORSE (was Well off topics)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @17 July 2002, 02:21 +0700 (20:21 UK time) Thomas F [TF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marcus Ohlström on TBUDL: MO Ehrr? What is a drive refresh? moderator This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce it dead. It didn't really belong here to start with. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. Thank you. /moderator TF (@mods: I hear the trouts are out for spawning season). Paula has made me feel remiss in my duties and I've just hauled in a huge net-full of trouts. So OT threads ... I'm coming for you! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NcqiOeQkq5KdzaARAi7qAJ9fa6UAWE3ls/uPUVsLdkaTvR+FfgCgrebP +9VOERduaL8ksNwvyVy1sYU= =EpHy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @17 July 2002, 21:20 +0200 (20:20 UK time) Peter Meyns [PM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Peter Meyns on TBUDL: PM I looked at the message's headers. Some servers seem to have PM received it with a wrong dateline. No - the message has crossed the dateline and come back again. PM It was sent on July 16, and some responses show July 18: PM ,- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] PM | Received: from [203.130.233.9] (helo=home.worldless.net) PM | by mxng03.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) PM | id 17UtWc-0006tV-00 PM | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:27:47 +0200 This evening it arrived back at your place. PM | Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=thebat.dutaint.com) PM | by home.worldless.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2001) PM | id 17UtQ9-8Q-00; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:21:05 +0700 Having left Indonesia at 01:21 tomorrow morning.. that's 20:21 this evening local time a.k.a six minutes earlier. No mystery there! PM | Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.176] helo=moutng2.kundenserver.de) PM | by home.worldless.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2001) PM | id 17UtQ6-88-00 PM | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:21:03 +0700 Having arrived in Indonesia from your ISP two seconds before it went out again. PM | Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng0.kundenserver.de) PM | by moutng2.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) PM | id 17UXc2-lW-00 PM | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:03:54 +0200 Having spent TWO DAYS languishing at mrelayng0.kundenserver.de PM I'd really like to know why those delays happen. :-) Does that help? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Ncr1OeQkq5KdzaARAkDDAKCHPUvbIn1o7DNbkBFFxKxRUVwdIQCeNUmH lbAEXnsCZRmGLE7daQhF5iE= =vBrt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Message submitted to 'tbudl'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Terry, @17 July 2002, 12:35 -0700 (20:35 UK time) Terry G. Munson [T] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck on TBUDL: T I don't know what I did wrong...since I just clicked on the T Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; that is on T every message sent out by the list!! ;-) ...but I am sure that I T screwed up somewhere. T I will follow your advice. Here's what you did wrong - and I'll make it public so that everyone can see that it doesn't work to say Well, I use folder templates all the time and they always work well for me. stock lecture I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates. The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail. BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any pre-existing addresses are retained. Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for me. Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this message yet again. It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw. The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended. With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind. Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier. Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you have to click to the right of the new message button and select the list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is* a favourite in the address book). /stock lecture You have a TBUDL folder that has folder templates that are killing your ability to target a message to anywhere but the list from that folder. Please use AB templates for everything you possibly can. It will save facial egg removal issues every time. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NcuxOeQkq5KdzaARAmpNAJ9fc6+PVRdgGtjtxNmTft/MKu7jkQCg+e0q CnbeiEdsos8OWvXMmXdsZ+w= =YpwX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
Hi Marck, on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:52:20 +0100GMT (17.07.02, 21:52 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM I looked at the message's headers. Some servers seem to have PM received it with a wrong dateline. MDP No - the message has crossed the dateline and come back again. ... MDP Having spent TWO DAYS languishing at mrelayng0.kundenserver.de MDP Does that help? Yes, it does. *vbs* So, should I tell them to adjust their calendar? ;) I'm glad they now seem to work properly again. :o) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Alan Jackson - I Don't Even Know Your Name Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: AVG didn't catch
Replying to your message of Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 10:41:35 AM: MDP Let's MDP not have any more of the hype here please. Hypehow do you mean that?? For example, there is a new virus written tonight. This virus is delivered in a .pif attachment (like Klez is). Tomorrow comes, if you are using XYZ anti virus and it is based solely on signature updates, unless you get the days update you are vulnerable to this virus. Me on the other hand, I use LMN anti virus which is based on signatures, rules sets and policies. This solution is set so it will not allow any .pif attachments to get to my email client. Therefore if I don't get the daily update for some reason, I am protected from this virus regardless. How does this rate as a false security? -- Pete www.milneweb.com Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:33:16 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.61 Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
