Re: Beginners List
22 August 2002, 07:05, you wrote: E I'm one of them smile. I think they still can be educated, E perhaps more easily than their grandchildren. Well, I'm sure you're more focussed and have an attention span of more than a nanosecond! E just personally cable networked my own PC and laptop, next going E for wireless cable sharing, it's hard on my silver surfing knees, E but I did it with my own brain power) I'm impressed. Keep at it. -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:34:21 PM, you wrote: JS I should have thought about that before I 'solved' the problem by JS reinstallation. Next time it comes around I'll try to remember to JS save that part of the registry :) I've now exported it while it works JS ok. Hi Johnny, That should be good enough. I take it from that, that a reinstall solved the problem? I also saw report that even a reinstall didn't solve it. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In wildness is the preservation of the world. - Henry David Thoreau, Walking(1862) - Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Blarp, B There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've B seen (including mine). Ok, this may be of interest to you and others: Earlier today I uninstalled The Bat, but I said no to the question of whether to remove the message base or not. After reinstalling the program I restored a backup of all accounts that I'd just done. This didn't make the periodical checking work. Just now I uninstalled the program and answered yes to all questions of removal - that is both from the registry and the mail directory. After this I made sure no files were left in the mail directory and the program directory. Then I installed the program again and restored my backup. Now the periodical checking works. Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this procedure works there too. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.
Hi Allie, ACM Blarp is using Tiny Personal Firewall and not ZA. I've also tried running without TPF active at all (disabled service, reboot) and it has no effect on TB's periodical checking. It seems to be something internal to TB. Since it only gets reported on XP 2000, I wonder if there's something with the permissions. I have TB installed under my account (which has Admin rights). I wonder what it does if installed under a different account with say Power User rights or something? -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
need help with IMAP Support?
Hi I am a beginner to The Bat and am having trouble figuring out if it supports IMAP connections like Outlook Express - i.e. the ability to synchronize folders and mails, etc? I can't seem to get it to work. Thanks in advance for any help... regardsSteve
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Marck, JS :) Perhaps I'll submit a bug report then. MDP Not yet. MDP Blarp doesn't mention the thing that causes this 9/10 times. MDP See message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for more MDP information (The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks) if you are a ZA user. Thanks. As I mentioned in another post I managed to overcome the problem by uninstalling all parts of the program including the message base. However, I have to mention that I've used TB! since version 1.46 as far as I remember. The problem with the (lack of) periodical checking have periodically surfaced using firewalls Atguard, Zone Alarm, Tiny Personal Firewall as well as no firewall at all. Unfortunately I have kept no record of whether this was the case with all versions of TB! or not. I can say I am quite familiar with the problem. It was usually solved either on the next reinstallation of the operating system or of the program. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.
On Thursday, August 22, 2002, 8:02:06 AM, Blarp wrote: Since it only gets reported on XP 2000, I wonder if there's something with the permissions. I have TB installed under my account (which has Admin rights). I wonder what it does if installed under a different account with say Power User rights or something? I am running 1.61 under Win XP Pro with Power User rights, and I don't have any problems with periodical checking. A couple of questions come to mind with periodical checking: 1. Are all the problems being experienced on a dialup connection? 2. Does TB start a dialup connection to do a periodical check? 3. Is there anything in the log file to indicate that TB attempted to connect? 4. In anyone experiencing problems with periodical checking with a permanent connection (such as a network connection or DSL)? The answers might narrow the problem down a bit. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Delete Certain Messages
Hi Jan, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:18:51 -0400 GMT (Aug 22, 06:03 my local time), you [JR] wrote: JR Your special sender could be filtered to change color on arrival JR move automatically to trash after a certain # of days if you left JR in your inbox. This is exactly what I want to achieve but in a message level, not folder level i.e. I don't want to delete *all messages* in a folder after certain # of days. OTOH, I don't want to keep these 'other messages' forever either so parking them is out of the question. So, Allie's suggestion of manual filter is perfect for me. However, if TB! had an option to invoke a filter upon start/exit, it would have been excellent :))) As to why I need this, I collect lot of news in a folder and would like to delete 'Breaking News' after couple of days of their arrival while preserve others for a month or so. I could, of course, create a separate folder for 'Breaking News', but there are so many of them folders with me and I was just looking for the possibility of one less folder. I was hoping that if this function could be automated, I could cut down on numbers of other folders whose sole purpose is just that: to delete messages after 'n' number of days. -- Cheers,Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. ___PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| http://pgpkeys.mit.edu P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| _.. Sad to think that when the letters 'WWF' are mentioned, most of us think of wrestlers, before the World Wildlife Fund... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
no sound filter
Hello all, I want no sound when message come into a particular mailbox, so I tried adjusting the filter. (Now that I know what goodies are hidden under the Actions tab...) I scrolled down to find the option: Play Sound. This is unchecked, but the wav that I chose for the account is still being played with incoming messages. The radio button before Play this wav file is checked, but the field next to it is left empty. The radio button before Play this system sound is unchecked. What do I have to do to have the messages ruled by this filter dropping in without making a sound? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter
Message from: 22. august 2002, 12:13:31 PM,: O Hello all, O I want no sound when message come into a particular O mailbox, so I tried adjusting the filter. You don't need filter for that, try mailbox sound settings in Account/properties/sound. Check or uncheck as you wish. That applies to the whole account. Right-click the folder within an account, select properties and check/uncheck sound only for this folder. You can use filter sound settings when you filter messages from specific sender,ie message from St.Claus to play Jingle bells..:-))) -- wlk TB161,w98 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: no sound filter
Hello vlk, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 12:35:27 PM, you wrote: v You can use filter sound settings when you filter messages v from specific sender That is exactly what I want to do. Perhaps I wasn't clear: I want certain messages that arrive in the Inbox not to sound the alarm that normally goes off when mail arrives in that box. I filter these messages so that they are forwarded to another email address. At first I collected them in a folder before they were forwarded, but that seemed silly: I got them all twice. So now they come into my general Inbox, get filtered and sent on, but I would like to them to do that in silence. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.
Hello Julian, A couple of questions come to mind with periodical checking: [...] 4. In anyone experiencing problems with periodical checking with a permanent connection (such as a network connection or DSL)? No problem here, whichever version of ZA or TB. Running XP Pro in a network-environment (DHCP [yes or no, doesn't matter]; Router etc). Greetings, Alexander Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ochrid, @22-Aug-2002, 12:44 +0200 (11:44 UK time) Ochrid [O] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to vlk: O now they come into my general Inbox, get filtered and sent on, O but I would like to them to do that in silence. So create a new wav file that is just a one second burst of silence and choose that as the specific sound for that message. You have to override the account default with *something* to suppress the default sound. Leaving the filter with no sound set will cause the default sound to play. Actually that won't work. What you really need to do is to remove the account default sound (play no sound), put your soundless filters at the top of the sorting office, add an intermediate filter after them that doesn't move messages (ie moves them from inbox to inbox), looks for '@' in the kludges, plays the default sound and has the option set to continue processing with other filters. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWTHjTnkJKuSnc2gEQKLkQCg0AMr/LyBXOQLvCVG+Yrl/pVzsiwAoPjm c95cjhEFrp9SHq85e5+CD9QG =dBgq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: no sound filter
Hello Marck, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 1:14:21 PM, you wrote: MDP What you really need to do is to remove MDP the account default sound (play no sound), put your soundless MDP filters at the top of the sorting office, add an intermediate filter MDP after them that doesn't move messages (ie moves them from inbox to MDP inbox), looks for '' in the kludges, plays the default sound and MDP has the option set to continue processing with other filters. That'll keep me busy for the rest of the afternoon ;) Thanks. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
LDAP AB properties - re-send
Hello Bat Folk. I'm new to the LDAP protocol or whatever you call it. When I try to search using the LDAPs listed in the AB, almost all show a can't connect or connect failed error. Question: how do I fix this, i.e. where do I find the correct addresses, ports, etc. TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Delete Certain Messages
Hi Sudip. At 3:41 AM on Thursday, August 22, 2002 you [SP] wrote the following about Auto Delete Certain Messages: SP This is exactly what I want to achieve but in SP a message level, not folder level i.e. I don't SP want to delete *all messages* in a folder SP after certain # of days. OTOH, I don't want to SP keep these 'other messages' forever either so SP parking them is out of the question. [...] Right. What I was describing was a automatic filter that changed a particular message [from your sender] to a special color or flagged after just after a certain # of days as one thing, i.e. a filter that deals with those messages on a message level, while at a folder level, other msgs left in the folder after a certain of days are deleted or moved or whatever. These are separate commands at different levels I'm not sure why they can't work out of one folder automatically. OTOH, I'm not looking to beat a dead horse. This is just a curiosity for me as I think it's possible to do what you want to do automatically. Of course Allie knows *much* more than I will probably ever know about this program. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: no sound filter
Hello Marck, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 1:14:21 PM, you wrote: MDP What you really need to do is to remove MDP the account default sound (play no sound), put your soundless MDP filters at the top of the sorting office, add an intermediate filter MDP after them that doesn't move messages (ie moves them from inbox to MDP inbox), looks for '' in the kludges, plays the default sound and MDP has the option set to continue processing with other filters. I *think* I did what you said: the filter for the messages I want to shut up is now at the top of the sorting office ( this filter also forwards mail with the word 'digest' in the header to another account.) The other filters just move incoming mail into a particular box. The 'intermediate' filter is set up as you suggested (I think). Effect: when I now send a test mail to the main account, it gets forwarded as if it had *digest* in the header. Where did I go wrong? And thanks again! -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ochrid, @22-Aug-2002, 14:05 +0200 (13:05 UK time) Ochrid [O] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: O I *think* I did what you said: the filter for the messages I want O to shut up is now at the top of the sorting office ( this filter O also forwards mail with the word 'digest' in the header to O another account.) That sounds about right .. except the also bit makes me frown. That sounds like it should be two separate filters. O The other filters just move incoming mail into a particular box. O The 'intermediate' filter is set up as you suggested (I think). Good. Remember that filters run top down, first come, first served. If a message is process by a filter, earlier filters will have operated but later filters will not. O Effect: when I now send a test mail to the main account, it gets O forwarded as if it had *digest* in the header. O Where did I go wrong? Making a single filter to do two jobs sounds dodgy to me. Without more explicit information it's a hard one to call on. Why not copy/paste the filter in here and we can tell you what's wrong with it. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWTU2TnkJKuSnc2gEQLqHQCgvMw6kmRXrb5vM/3dvzByoNomPdYAn23P 8GjQcinCAADt7M3McG5u/cW9 =rsFe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: no sound filter
Hello Marck, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 2:11:04 PM, you wrote: MDP hy not copy/paste the filter in here and we can tell you MDP what's wrong with it. BeginFilter Name: vertalers Active: 1 Source: \\xs4all\Inbox Target: \\xs4all\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 20digest Actions: faMarkRead,faFwdMsg,faoSendNow,faoPlayWAV AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: This\20is\20a\20forwarded\20message\0D\0A\0D\0A%Text\0D\0A\0D\0A--\20\0D\0AEnd\20of\20forwarded\20message.\0D\0A\0D\0A ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: standaard AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: standaard SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter I cannot make head or tail of it, but I am sure you can... -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: no sound filter / additional info
Funny thing: I just forwarded a message to myself from my own *webmail* account: it landed in the Inbox welcomed by the appropriate sound and did *not* get forwarded. So I send another test mail to myself using TB! and again: that message got forwarded, although it did not have 'digest' in the header. Does this help? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter
ON Thursday, August 22, 2002, 2:11:04 PM, you wrote: MDP Good. Remember that filters run top down, first come, first served. MDP If a message is process by a filter, earlier filters will have MDP operated but later filters will not. What you mentioned about the filters is correct but what should alo be mentioned is that ALL email go in the inbox BEFORE a filter is used (CAPS intentional) This means that if you have a default sound for the inbox you will always hear it and that why it was suggested to replace this default sound with a silence. Then you can use filters to activate sounds on demand. I hope this helps and not further confuses the matter ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= All right everyone, line up alphabetically according to your height. -- Casey Stengel Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ochrid, @22-Aug-2002, 14:21 +0200 (13:21 UK time) Ochrid [O] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP why not copy/paste the filter in here and we can tell you MDP what's wrong with it. O BeginFilter O Name: vertalers ... snip O I cannot make head or tail of it, but I am sure you can... Well, it looks right to me. It will take any message that contains the word digest in the subject, forward it to you, mark it read and move it to trash. I don't think that this filter is causing your problem - unless simply filtering on the keyword digest within the subject is getting too many positives and you need to refine it by adding more conditions. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWTgtznkJKuSnc2gEQL/kwCeLGEGC1TVgaFolU9CO1K0wC2hH20AoKxB ZKEkfqlCYK8Pq59yS2a8J2bp =qaP7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Delete Certain Messages
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:26:35 +0545 Sudip Pokhrel (SP) wrote: This is exactly what I want to achieve but in a message level, not folder level i.e. I don't want to delete *all messages* in a folder after certain # of days. OTOH, I don't want to keep these 'other messages' forever either so parking them is out of the question. So, Allie's suggestion of manual filter is perfect for me. However, if TB! had an option to invoke a filter upon start/exit, it would have been excellent :))) Much better if having folder filter. TB! has Account Template and folder template, why not account filter plus folder filter :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter / additional info
Hallo Ochrid, On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:32:39 +0200GMT (22-8-02, 14:32 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: O I just forwarded a message to myself from my own *webmail* O account: it landed in the Inbox welcomed by the appropriate sound O and did *not* get forwarded. O So I send another test mail to myself using TB! and again: that O message got forwarded, although it did not have 'digest' in the O header. Show us the filter that's misbehaving and show us the headers from the message that triggered it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: no sound filter / additional info
Hello Roelof, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 3:41:57 PM, you wrote: RO Show us the filter that's misbehaving and show us the headers from the RO message that triggered it. The filter was posted to this group ten minutes ago. I am not sure what you mean by header, but hope these two help: Source message that I sent to myself (taken from 'sent mail') Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:43:00 +0200 From: Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Personal Reply-To: Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sound check MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Source from message as it arrived in another account,after having been forwarded, presumably by the filter that is supposed to redirect messages with the word 'digest' in the header: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:43:02 +0200 From: Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Personal Reply-To: Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: sound check In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Filters! -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SmartBat doesn't hyperlink
I confess to not having read the last few threads on SmartBat, thinking quickly and erroneously that it was one of those TB! variants in the crypto category. Now that I have my own SmartBat comment, I'm hoping this hasn't already been raised Web links pasted into SmartBat take on the blue, underlined appearance of hot links, but they do not link. Clicking or double-clicking on them doesn't get anywhere. Is there some reason this would be appropriate, or is it a bug? -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SmartBat doesn't hyperlink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, August 22, 2002, Joseph N. wrote... Web links pasted into SmartBat take on the blue, underlined appearance of hot links, but they do not link. Clicking or double-clicking on them doesn't get anywhere. This was mentioned about 23rd May, in the thread Re: Link catching, was Re: Cookies wanted! ;) Is there some reason this would be appropriate, or is it a bug? I'd say they either didn't put it there, or did it by design... who knows. I'd probably assume they forgot to put it in... maybe put it on the wishlist to see if it can be included in later versions. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPWTyViuD6BT4/R9zEQKIBACgpvDQk+f6DUXXWo3YDWOy0l6I1C4AoMjg 6kE/cq793TlSXiR9i/3TJtEQ =SSnd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter / additional info
Hallo Ochrid, On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:49:15 +0200GMT (22-8-02, 15:49 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: O The filter was posted to this group ten minutes ago. Yep, I saw it. Came in with the mail-check accompanying my message out. O I am not sure what you mean by header, The ones you posted were what I meant. Though the best set of headers would've been those from the original (not forwarded) message as it came in. Because that's the one that actually does the triggering. O but hope these two help: Nope. Can't see any problem with those and the posted filter. O Source from message as it arrived in another account,after having O been forwarded, presumably by the filter that is supposed to O redirect messages with the word 'digest' in the header: The keyword here is 'presumably'. You could test whether it's actually being processed by the digest filter or not. Give the digest forwarding filter a specific forwarding template. Something like 'Forwarded by vertalers filter'. Could be that you've got another forwarding filter running that's triggered by 'check' in the subject. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter / additional info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ochrid, @22-Aug-2002, 14:32 +0200 (13:32 UK time) Ochrid [O] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Ochrid: O So I send another test mail to myself using TB! and again: that O message got forwarded, although it did not have 'digest' in the O header. O Does this help? Yes. Having seen your filter, it is obvious that you have another filter in place that is forwarding your messages. The one you posted here isn't going to hit on a message that doesn't have digest in the subject. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWT0XTnkJKuSnc2gEQKSxQCgwYEWKwySnUvxnPhLx+I6hgaX+2cAnRXQ xKcYqPdoyUcxWpcojKYgyTZm =j02Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter / additional info
ON Thursday, August 22, 2002, 3:49:15 PM, you wrote: O Hello Roelof, O Thursday, August 22, 2002, 3:41:57 PM, you wrote: RO Show us the filter that's misbehaving and show us the headers from the RO message that triggered it. O The filter was posted to this group ten minutes ago. O I am not sure what you mean by header, but hope these two help: O Source message that I sent to myself (taken from 'sent mail') snipped Hi Ochrid, Yes these are the headers and No this was not forwarded by the filter you posted earlier. That filter only forwards a msg if it has digest in the subject. Go to your filter box, select filter vertalers, select actions and move the slider until you can see Forward to Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now click on the filter vertalers again and using your up/down arrow key move though the other filters until you find an other with Forward to Ochrid [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The post the headers of the email that didn't get send and hopefully we will tell you why :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The secret of the universe is @*^^^ NO CARRIER Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no sound filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ochrid [O] wrote:' O I want no sound when message come into a particular mailbox, so I O tried adjusting the filter. (Now that I know what goodies are O hidden under the Actions tab...) I scrolled down to find the O option: Play Sound. This is unchecked, but the wav that I chose O for the account is still being played with incoming messages. Yes. The filter rule action to play a sound overrides the account setting only when you configure it to play a sound. If you don't configure it to play a sound, the account level filter will still work. O The radio button before Play this wav file is checked, but the O field next to it is left empty. O The radio button before Play this system sound is unchecked. O What do I have to do to have the messages ruled by this filter O dropping in without making a sound? The only way to do this is to configure the target folder to which you filter the messages, not to make any sound upon receiving messages. Each folder has its own sound configuration properties. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9ZMJAV8nrYCsHF+IRAl1yAJ4+d8t0JCgniIpXCEmE6BmylJBEiACgxqgX 9zFr1qPnTH/3R2FBrE12pUU= =19m+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.
Hello Julian, JBL A couple of questions come to mind with periodical checking: JBL 1. Are all the problems being experienced on a dialup connection? In my case it's always occurred with different DSL connections. JBL 3. Is there anything in the log file to indicate that TB attempted to JBL connect? Unfortunately my standard sized (20k) logs have already lost that info. However, I can say that the connection centre which I've always set to appear automatically stays away too when this problem is present. JBL 4. In anyone experiencing problems with periodical checking with a JBL permanent connection (such as a network connection or DSL)? See 1. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.
Hi Allie, ACM When I had the problem, a restart of TB! would *always* result in a ACM successful mailcheck. When it stopped checking for mail, it would ACM stop and never successfully check again until I restarted TB!. The same thing happened to me - every time I started TB! (with ZA running) I would get about 5 minutes worth of successful checks. Quit and restart TB and I'd get another 5 minutes. When you start a program ZA keeps a table of where the program is accessing. When you quit, that table is removed. Therefore a quit + restart would clear that table. ACM My connection problems were later not confined to TB! but my ACM internet connection in general. I'd be connected to my ISP but ACM nothing would be happening. Only an OS reboot would fix this, ... ACM all the time. That's probably a different and bigger issue. :-) ACM When I installed uninstalled ZA and installed TPF, I created 2 rules ACM for TB!. One to allow connections to the remote machine's port 25 ACM and another for remote port 110, with both connecting at a single IP ACM (not a hostname who's IP may vary). I never had problems again. Unfortunately with ZA you can't create specific rules like that - you can only say the remote server(s) IP address is good. But my first suggestion/solution that I gave is effectively the same as what you did with TPF. ACM The changing IP may be one factor but I doubt that it's the only ACM one. True. I don't have a full Windows debugger available on my email box to be able to track down what's going on in the background otherwise. I'm more of a unix guy (actually a networking guy) than a windows expert. :-) ACM Be that as it may, I don't think ZA is to blame for the frequently ACM reported problems with auto-mail checking. In my case it was - I could reproduce the problem and create the test environment so I found out what it was. There may be (and most likely are) other problems/bugs/issues that look and act in similar ways. ACM Especially since a clean install of TB! fixes the problem. This ACM seems to point to a TB! problem. Hate to say it, but it's probably is a windows problem actually. They (MS) have an absolutely horrid TCP/IP implementation in the OS, so I wouldn't be surprised to find it does things in weird and unexpected ways... Cheers, Ross. -- Ross West mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: no sound filter / additional info
Hello Roelof, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 4:30:31 PM, you wrote: RO Could be that you've got another forwarding filter running Not for the first time I have to thank you all for your help blushing with shame... I was só sure I had checked for another filter before asking you, but had forgotten that the test filter I used for an earlier problem also had the forwarding action in it. Next time I will check things even more thoroughly before wasting your time! But I again learned a lot (about filter hierarchy and sounds). Yours, red as a beetroot, -- Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
