Re: Know Filter ... know problems?

2002-08-26 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo The,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:43:41 +0200GMT (26-8-02, 7:43 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

 1) The mails that don't get sorted are processed by another filter
 that doesn't move them from the inbox. (You can test this, create a

CGS oh gosh! you are right! I forgot, that this email adress gets some
CGS colors ...

At the coloring filter you've got to set the option 'Continue
processing with other filters'

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Getting Mail Problem

2002-08-26 Thread Terry Buchanan Home

Hello Marck,

Saturday, August 24, 2002, 11:25:03 PM, you wrote:

MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MDP Hash: SHA1

MDP Hi Thomas,

MDP @24-Aug-2002, 19:07 +0700 (13:07 UK time) Thomas F. [T] in
MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

T (I know, I am playing devil's advocate.)

MDP moderator
MDP And I'm playing OT's advocate.

MDP This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce
MDP it dead.

MDP Please take it off-list or to TBOT.

MDP For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO
MDP REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT.

MDP Thank you.
MDP /moderator

MDP - --
MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
MDP TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2

The following has happened a couple of times in the last month.

Check mail and all messages are received, Connection Centre stays open with status 
importing messages
you cannot delete task, abort task etc. only way to close Connection Centre is Ctrl - 
Alt -  Del to close Bat.

Connection Centre shows Progress 100% Estimated 00.00.01   Transferred 214k/214k


Run Bat again and same messages are received again and same problem continues. Does 
seem to stop for a week or so and then decides to do the same.

Any clues?

Terry Buchanan



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Re: Getting Mail Problem

2002-08-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Terry,

@26-Aug-2002, 19:13 +1000 (10:13 UK time) Terry Buchanan Home [TBH]
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MDP - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB!

 ... snip

TBH Any clues?

moderator
Three no-no's in one message!

1/. Reply to irrelevant message.
Please don't use reply to start a new thread. Your question has been
posted at the bottom of un unrelated topic. The Bat! is a threading
mail client.

See View | View threads by | Reference to see where it ended up.

The result is that it will only be seen by those reading that thread
instead of by all users.

I recommend that you post your question again using a New message.

2/. Reply to Dead Horse thread
It is against the rules to reply to a thread that has been denoted a
Dead Horse. The message that you replied to and even included all
of (the third no-no - see below) actually stated that you weren't
allowed to reply to it!

3/. Over-quoting
Please trim your quotes to simply provide context for your replies.
This message was a good example of over quoting.

On a positive note: You didn't top post Thank heavens for small
mercies ;-).

I understand that you may be a newcomer and that this may seem a
harsh welcome, but it's not intended to be confrontational and I ope
it helps a bit.
/moderator

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Re[3]: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

2002-08-26 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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Monday, August 26, 2002
7:25:03 AM
RE: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings Mark,

On Saturday, August 17, 2002, 2:29:29 PM, you wrote:

Mark ...Now *that's* living on the edge...

On this workstation here there are very few, if any, programs that are
running that are not currently in beta or haven't been released in the last
two to three weeks.

Let's say (out of my nine total systems on my home LAN/WAN) that this PC,
that I use as my personal desktop, is my test bed of sorts.

Sometimes this system has one foot over the cliff and a half step would send
it crashing down but  nothing I can't repair or fix.

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Getting Mail Problem

2002-08-26 Thread Terry Buchanan Home



The following has happened a couple of times in the last month.

Check mail and all messages are received, Connection Centre stays open with status 
importing messages
you cannot delete task, abort task etc. only way to close Connection Centre is Ctrl - 
Alt -  Del to close Bat.

Connection Centre shows Progress 100% Estimated 00.00.01   Transferred 214k/214k


Run Bat again and same messages are received again and same problem continues. Does 
seem to stop for a week or so
and then decides to do the same.

Any clues?

Terry Buchanan



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Re: After updating AntivirPE antivirus-plugin stopped working

2002-08-26 Thread Alain de Gevigney

Hello Peter,

 On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 at 12:38 you [PP] wrote:

H I think there have been some changes in the program which caused the
H plugin to stop working.

PP They did.
PP Go, get additionally the command line version (AVE32), and install
PP this into your AntiVir directory. [.../...] You'll have to get the
PP newest AVE32.exe than again to make the plugin work.

The only one I found is:
  AntiVir/DOS32 Version 6.14.0.1, (Apr 21 2002, 21:16:28)
  but it didn't detect anything (even eicar.com) through the plugin.

Last one was:
  AntiVir/DOS32 Version 6.15.0.0, (Jul 08 2002, 10:53:49)
  but it didn't work with the new .vdf (err. 212)
  
Version of AVWIN.EXE:6.14.17.67
   AVEWIN32.DLL: 6.14.0.1
   ANTIVIR.VDF:  6.14.00.69


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Automatically mark all as read in a folder once viewed option

2002-08-26 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi all,

OK the title says it all pretty much - could I set it up so that when
I goto one of my mailing list folders (like my TB Mailing List folder
for ex), as soon as I click away to another folder on the folder pane,
ALL messages are automatically marked as read.

Obviously, this would be better as a per-folder option rather than per
account.

TIA,

-- 

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Re:Automatically mark all as read in a folder once viewed option

2002-08-26 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Ben.

At 10:33 AM on Monday, August 26, 2002 you [BK]
wrote the following about 'Automatically mark all
as read in a folder once viewed option':

BK as soon as I click away to another folder on
BK the folder pane, ALL messages are
BK automatically marked as read.

  I don't believe so but you could assign a key
  combo to do for you via key assignments ALT
  F-12. See the main menu - Folder - Mark All
  Msgs Read command.

  HTH

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Re: After updating AntivirPE antivirus-plugin stopped working

2002-08-26 Thread Haico

On 26-8-2002 at 14:18, Alain de Gevigney wrote:

Hi Alain,

 The only one I found is:
   AntiVir/DOS32 Version 6.14.0.1, (Apr 21 2002, 21:16:28)
   but it didn't detect anything (even eicar.com) through the plugin.

That's the one I downloaded and installed in the AVpersonal directory
and after doing that it intercepted eicar. That's the prove that the
plugin works.

Don't pay attention to the other testmails.

 Last one was:
   AntiVir/DOS32 Version 6.15.0.0, (Jul 08 2002, 10:53:49)
   but it didn't work with the new .vdf (err. 212)

If that one exists it has a different engine and therefore it doesn't
work with the current version. [I think ;)]

 Version of AVWIN.EXE:6.14.17.67
AVEWIN32.DLL: 6.14.0.1
ANTIVIR.VDF:  6.14.00.69

The engine has version 6.14.0.1 and therefore ave32.exe with the same
version number should work. (I have the same versions)

Did you check if you have the right settings for the plugin?
(options--virusprotection.. Check incoming mail for viruses)


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Re[2]: Automatically mark all as read in a folder once viewedoption

2002-08-26 Thread Alaeddin Muntasser

Hello Jan,


JR   I don't believe so but you could assign a key
JR   combo to do for you via key assignments ALT
JR   F-12. See the main menu - Folder - Mark All
JR   Msgs Read command.

I could not find key assignment in the help menu.  Could you please
tell me how to get to that option? I'd like to do the same as ben.



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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written:

JS I'm not sure which problem area triggered TB to shut down but I
JS suspect it was the 150+ email addresses that were listed in the
JS subject line ;).

TF Yes, there is a limit to the number of characters that are allowed in
TF the subject line (RFC(2)822). The mistake, of course, was created by
TF the sender's MUA. But it still shouldn't make TB shut down.

I've just send a test message to my self, containing a 200 characters
subject line. No crash.
I sent an additional test message with a '11 x 20 chars' subject line, so
simulate the white space characters in subject: no crash.


There's _no_ such limit in RFC-(2)822 that is near 150+ characters, the
only limit given is: 999 characters, and a recommendation to have lines no
longer than 78 or 80 characters (means: folding long header lines).

I can't imagine why this 'long line' would make TB! crash, but if James
could 'conserve' this mail in it's original state I'd be interested in
inspecting it and it's repercussions on The Bat! by myself.
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attachments in root folder

2002-08-26 Thread Reza Habib

Hi everyone.  I have a question.  I'm running TB 1.61 on win2k.  I
find that the attachments of my incoming mail appear in my root (c:\)
directory.  I tried changing the account settings from 'keep
attachments in body' to 'keep attachments in separate folder'.
Although this made a difference for outgoing attachments, the incoming
ones are still appearing in c:\.  Anyone experience this or know how
to fix it.  Thanks,

Reza



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Re:Automatically mark all as read in a folder once viewed option

2002-08-26 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Alaeddin.

At 9:25 AM on Monday, August 26, 2002 you [AM]
wrote the following about 'Automatically mark all
as read in a folder once viewed option':

JR   I don't believe so but you could assign a key
JR   combo to do for you via key assignments ALT
JR   F-12. See the main menu - Folder - Mark All
JR   Msgs Read command.

AM I could not find key assignment in the help
AM menu. Could you please tell me how to get to
AM that option? I'd like to do the same as ben.

  I think if you use the ALTF12 keys
  simultaneously, you will see a dialogue come up
  that allows you to assign key combinations to
  various commands. The read all msgs in folder
  command is under the Menu - Folder group. It
  should work but if I'm wrong, someone will come
  right along  correct me.

  HTH

-- 
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Scheduled Mail Checks Stopped Working

2002-08-26 Thread Bob Curtis

Hello TBUDL,

  I know this was discussed previously and I believe the consensus was
  that ZA was causing the problem of automated email checking
  stopping.

  I don't have ZA. I have Win2KPro, TB v1.61, Cable Internet
  connection.

  Auto checking was working well then suddenly stopped. Auto checking
  still works with Outlook Express, Outlook, Fox, Becky Mail.

  Is there any additional info regarding TB and auto checking not
  working?

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Re[2]: Beginners List

2002-08-26 Thread Lynn Turriff



Friday, August 23, 2002, 1:16:46 PM, you wrote:

 That wasn't what got my attention, but I have been
 beginning to think there was something wrong with me. I
 thought it was as easy to get off the ground as anything
 I'd ever used, too.

E Of course, it is easy to get off the ground.  What it isn't, is
E free.  Outlook Express, Netscape, Eudora, Pegasus, are.

Hi Elaine -

Cheap at the price, though ... when I found it I promptly
bought enough licenses for the whole family .. and even my
non-geek brother uses it. I didn't have to strong-arm even
one of them!

Free is only a good price if the product is what you
want.

Lynn



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Re: Scheduled Mail Checks Stopped Working

2002-08-26 Thread Allie C Martin

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bob Curtis [BC] wrote:'

BC I know this was discussed previously and I believe the consensus
BC was that ZA was causing the problem of automated email checking
BC stopping.

Not really the only cause but one of the known causes.

BC I don't have ZA. I have Win2KPro, TB v1.61, Cable Internet
BC connection.

BC   Is there any additional info regarding TB and auto checking not
BC   working?

This was recently discussed in two threads. You can read them here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg46204.html

and

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg46246.html


The first of the two threads will likely be more enlightening,
though not necessarily more helpful. :/

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Re: Beginners List

2002-08-26 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae The,
 
On Sat, 24 Aug 2002, at 07:04:46 [GMT -0700] (or 15:04 in Wales)
regarding 'Beginners List' you wrote:


LT Cheap at the price, though ... when I found it I promptly
LT bought enough licenses for the whole family .. and even my
LT non-geek brother uses it. I didn't have to strong-arm even
LT one of them!

LT Free is only a good price if the product is what you
LT want.

LT Lynn

A phrase I heard which I like is

whatever is only free if your time is worthless.

i.e  sometimes  with  the free stuff you spend a lot of time trying to get it to
work.

It doesn't always apply, but to OE - well no comment.

Saying that mind, Mozilla Mail isn't too bad, and Calypso is ok.

A

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Re: Getting Mail Problem

2002-08-26 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Marck,

26. avgust 2002, 12:23:58, you wrote:

MDP On a positive note: You didn't top post Thank heavens for small
MDP mercies ;-).

To tell you the truth, I rather see a top-posted one-liner than
bottom-posted reply, because it's easier to evade :)

fup2 TBOT

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Re: Getting Mail Problem

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Terry,

on Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:35:53 +1000GMT (26.08.02, 13:35 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

TBH Check mail and all messages are received, Connection Centre stays open
TBH with status importing messages you cannot delete task, abort task
TBH etc. only way to close Connection Centre is Ctrl - Alt -  Del to close
TBH Bat.

TBH Connection Centre shows Progress 100% Estimated 00.00.01   Transferred
TBH 214k/214k

Has happened here several times with actual and previous versions. Not very
often though...

TBH Run Bat again and same messages are received again and same problem
TBH continues.

Yes, same messages are received again, because for whatever reason TB! in
this case refuses the last goodbye to the server which would delete
messages there. It has happened here only once at a time, so after next
download all was ok. I suspect, TB!'s developers knew why they implemented
the Kill Dupes feature... ;-)

TBH Any clues?

Too bad, no... :-(

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Re: Getting Mail Problem

2002-08-26 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Terry!

On Monday, August 26, 2002 at 11:13:53 AM you wrote:

 Any clues?

Use the Dispatch Mail on Server from Account menu, choose All
Messages.

When the Dispatcher window opens look for all messages you already
have received and un-check Receive, leave Delete checked. Now,
there will be one message after the last you received, this will most
certainly be the culprit - don't ask me what exactly the problem is,
but it will likely be an unwanted post. For this also un-check
Receive and let Delete checked. Now close the dispatcher and close
the connection.

The next time you download your mails everything should be alright.



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Re: Scheduled Mail Checks Stopped Working

2002-08-26 Thread Johnny Skaaning

Hello Bob Curtis,

BC   I know this was discussed previously and I believe the consensus was
BC   that ZA was causing the problem of automated email checking
BC   stopping.

I don't think there should be such a consensus. Rather a consensus
that the mailchecking problems might be caused either a) by some kind of
conflict with ZA or b) by conflicts not related to ZA that nobody has been
able to define.

I have experienced these problems with several versions of TB using
3 different firewalls as well as no firewall at all. There are other
users who like yourself have reported in this forum that they have a
similar problem without using ZA.

BC   Is there any additional info regarding TB and auto checking not
BC   working?

Nobody really figured anything out in this forum about the non-ZA
related type of problem, but now you have the problem you might follow
an earlier suggestion and check the log to see if there's any
indication that a mailcheck was actually attempted. Also, export the
TB part of the registry and we might be able to compare with the same
export from a machine that's working and find some explanation.

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread James Senick

Hello Peter,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, at 17:37:52 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:37:52
AM in NY, USA) Peter Palmreuther wrote:

 There's _no_ such limit in RFC-(2)822 that is near 150+ characters, the
 only limit given is: 999 characters, and a recommendation to have lines no
 longer than 78 or 80 characters (means: folding long header lines).

The actual message in question contains more than 150 email
addresses...not just characters.  So the number of characters is
well above 999.  But this may be beside the point.

 I can't imagine why this 'long line' would make TB! crash, but if James
 could 'conserve' this mail in it's original state I'd be interested in
 inspecting it and it's repercussions on The Bat! by myself.

I can't either and it intrigues the heck out of me.  I have
conserved the message but cannot figure out how I could send an
exact copy to anyone else including myself.  Since I can't
receive it, I can't do much else but forward it via the
dispatcher to the best of my knowledge.

All I can really add is that from the list of email addresses
provided, I am sure it's spam.  So it could be possible that
something within the actual body of the message causes TB to
shut down.  But without being able to receive it, I cannot say
for sure.  That is the part that intrigues me--something that
can take TB down.  The question arises; what else could it do?

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alt + F12, shortcut editor

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi there,

I learned from another thread, that alt + F12 opens the shortcut editor.
Well, it does - yet another feature I didn't know before. :o)
BUT, here it is just a shortcut viewer. I can get to the edit window of a
task without current shortcut, but I can't edit anything, the entry box is
greyed out. Any ideas why this might be? Now that I know of the feature, I
would like to use it! ;-)

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Re: Automatically mark all as read in a folder once viewed option

2002-08-26 Thread Thomas F.

Hello Alaeddin,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:25:39 +0400 GMT (26/08/02, 20:25 +0700 GMT),
Alaeddin Muntasser wrote:

AM I could not find key assignment in the help menu. Could you please
AM tell me how to get to that option? I'd like to do the same as ben.

View / Edit Shortcuts

and

Options / Define System Hotkeys

Don't ask me why it is not in one menu. ;-)

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Thomas F.

Hello Peter,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:37:52 +0200 GMT (26/08/02, 22:37 +0700 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

JS I'm not sure which problem area triggered TB to shut down but I
JS suspect it was the 150+ email addresses that were listed in the
JS subject line ;).

PP There's _no_ such limit in RFC-(2)822 that is near 150+ characters,

He was talking of 150+ email addresses, and I tend to believe that
each of them has more than one character, adding up to more than 999.
;-)

PP I can't imagine why this 'long line' would make TB! crash,

Clear now?

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Thomas F.

Hello James,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:42:12 -0400 GMT (26/08/02, 23:42 +0700 GMT),
James Senick wrote:

JS All I can really add is that from the list of email addresses
JS provided, I am sure it's spam.  So it could be possible that
JS something within the actual body of the message causes TB to
JS shut down.  But without being able to receive it, I cannot say
JS for sure.  That is the part that intrigues me--something that
JS can take TB down.  The question arises; what else could it do?

This is a very good question. Do you have any other access to the mail
server, so that you can retrieve the message another way? Ritlabs
certainly need to investigate here IMHO.

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Re: alt + F12, shortcut editor

2002-08-26 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo The,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:45:44 +0200GMT (26-8-02, 18:45 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

PM BUT, here it is just a shortcut viewer.

Select the item you'd like to assign a hotkey and press the hotkey
combination you'd like to use. From what I gtather from your message
the shortcut editor has changed in beta, but how I described is how it
works in 1.61

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Re: alt + F12, shortcut editor

2002-08-26 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Monday, August 26, 2002, Peter Meyns wrote...

 I learned from another thread, that alt + F12 opens the shortcut
 editor. Well, it does - yet another feature I didn't know before.
 :o) BUT, here it is just a shortcut viewer. I can get to the edit
 window of a task without current shortcut, but I can't edit
 anything, the entry box is greyed out. Any ideas why this might be?
 Now that I know of the feature, I would like to use it! ;-)

Try selecting the top box (you cannot type in it), and press the key
combination you want to use.  You should notice it change, then click
OK.  You've now assigned the new key combo.  I think that second box
is a mistake ;)

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Re: alt + F12, shortcut editor

2002-08-26 Thread Thomas F.

Hello Peter,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:45:44 +0200 GMT (26/08/02, 23:45 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

PM BUT, here it is just a shortcut viewer. I can get to the edit window of a
PM task without current shortcut, but I can't edit anything, the entry box is
PM greyed out. Any ideas why this might be?

Let us know where you find this shortcut viewer, and we'll check it
out. ;-)

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written:

TF He was talking of 150+ email addresses, and I tend to believe that
TF each of them has more than one character, adding up to more than 999.
TF ;-)

*hmmm* _ONLY_ if each is in average longer than 5.6 characters :-D

PP I can't imagine why this 'long line' would make TB! crash,

TF Clear now?

Yes. THIS long line in fact I could imagine making TB! crash.
For sure there's a buffer in The Bat! that reads one line at a time.
This buffer has a max length. This length is overflowed with this mail.
There's no 'try/catch' - The Bat! crashes :-/

I just read something about 150+ _characters_ in original post ... seem I'm
not concentrated enough after a long day of working :-)

But ... is it really _one long line_??? That question has to be answered,
else there's probably something completely different that makes The Bat!
crash. It's hard to imagine the MTA did not fold this overlong line, that's
why I ask.

@James: could you contact your ISP to grab this mail 'as is' out of your
mailbox and send it to you as ZIPed (or any other form of archive that
conserves _the original state_) file??? Any chance this could be done???
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Re: Know Filter ... know problems?

2002-08-26 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer

Hello Roelof,

Monday, August 26, 2002, 9:12:25 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

CGS oh gosh! you are right! I forgot, that this email adress gets some
CGS colors ...

 At the coloring filter you've got to set the option 'Continue
 processing with other filters'

I know, when I did that, everything worked as it should :) Actually I
should have remembered this settings, cause it was discussed here
often enought ...

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Re: alt + F12, shortcut editor

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Jonathan,

on Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:19:36 -0500GMT (26.08.02, 19:19 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 I would like to use it! ;-)

JA Try selecting the top box (you cannot type in it), and press the key
JA combination you want to use.

I typed in the box that I cannot type in, and it worked! :o) Why didn't I
think of that earlier: why not type in a box that looks not supposed to
type in... ~:-)

That's what I like about The Bat! - most features are in one or another way
hidden, but they are great, once I discover them! *S*

JA You should notice it change, then click OK. You've now assigned the new
JA key combo.

Yes, it worked absolutely! :))

The Bat! is always good for surprises!

JA I think that second box is a mistake ;)

Possibly. It works well without it...

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread James Senick

Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, at 23:57:51 [GMT +0700] (which was 12:57:51
PM in NY, USA) Thomas F. wrote:

JS That is the part that intrigues me--something that
JS can take TB down.  The question arises; what else could it do?

 This is a very good question. Do you have any other access to the mail
 server, so that you can retrieve the message another way? Ritlabs
 certainly need to investigate here IMHO.

No, there is no other way that I know of right now.  I tried to
gain FTP access from our hosting service and they will not allow
it.  In fact, they recommended that I open the message from the
Web mail alternative.  Bad suggestion IMO.  I guess that's why
I'm not in tech support. ;)



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alt + F12, shortcut editor: another query

2002-08-26 Thread myob

Hello list,

  There's one shortcut I really miss in TB!  When I'm reading a
  message, I know I must use the space bar to scroll down. If I
  do so too quickly, how do I set a shortcut to take me back a
  screen within the same message?


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Re: alt + F12, shortcut editor: another query

2002-08-26 Thread Keith Rodrigues



Monday, August 26, 2002, 3:11:34 PM, you wrote:

m   There's one shortcut I really miss in TB!  When I'm reading a
m   message, I know I must use the space bar to scroll down. If I
m   do so too quickly, how do I set a shortcut to take me back a
m   screen within the same message?


Hello myob,

Alt - PgUp


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help needed with secure smtp

2002-08-26 Thread Apostolos Manolitzas

Hello TBUDL,

I'm using The Bat! Version 1.60m
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998  

  My school (www.columbia.edu) has changed the configuration for
  sending mail. According to their instructions
  (http://www.columbia.edu/acis/email/authsmtp/), I should use the
  secure smtp with authentication in order to send my mails. So I
  tried to follow the instructions for the other
  mail clients. In the account properties I added the
  send.columbia.edu as a sending server, I added the authentication, I
  chose the connection to STARTTLS and in the authentication menu a
  ticked the Perform SMTP Authentication and Used settings of Mail
  Retrieval. But when I try to send an email i get the following error
  in the log and the I cannot send the mail.
quote
 25/8/2002, 19:01:14: SEND  - sending mail messages - 2 messages in queue
 25/8/2002, 19:01:24: SEND  - Initiating TLS handshake
 25/8/2002, 19:01:27: SEND  - connection finished - 0 messages sent
 25/8/2002, 19:01:27: SEND  - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details  
\quote
  Not to say that in the log there are no details beyond the previous
  quotation.
  Furthermore I added the certificate of the university in The Bat.

  I need your help in order to use the mail server of my
  university. Don't hesitate to contact me for more details.  

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, August 26, 2002, 8:10:21 PM, James Senick wrote:

 Are there any other mail clients with a dispatcher that
 allow for redirecting a message straight from the dispatcher?  I
 seem to remember a client that would allow one to choose how
 many lines of body text the dispatcher would preview...

I think that Popcorn might do this - it works only on messages on the
server without downloading.  It is no longer available from
the developers, but if you search for Popcorn you should be able to
find it.  If not, let me know, and I will email you a copy.  It is a
108K zip file, and about 300K unzipped.  It has a small .ini file for
configuration - no registry settings.

Julian

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Re[2]: alt + F12, shortcut editor: another query

2002-08-26 Thread myob

Monday, August 26, 2002, 8:49:52 PM, Keith wrote:


m   There's one shortcut I really miss in TB!  When I'm reading a
m   message, I know I must use the space bar to scroll down. If I
m   do so too quickly, how do I set a shortcut to take me back a
m   screen within the same message?

KR Alt - PgUp

Many thanks, Keith. I'd tried so many key combinations, how on earth did I
miss that one?


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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread James Senick

Hello Julian,

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, at 21:11:10 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:11:10
PM in NY, USA) Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

 I think that Popcorn might do this - it works only on messages on the
 server without downloading.  It is no longer available from
 the developers, but if you search for Popcorn you should be able to
 find it.  If not, let me know, and I will email you a copy.  It is a
 108K zip file, and about 300K unzipped.  It has a small .ini file for
 configuration - no registry settings.

Thanks Julian.  Cool little program.  I really thought this was
going to workBut the message crashed Popcorn too :(
Unfortunately, Popcorn will not allow me to redirect that
message without first downloading it...which of course, crashes
it.

 Julian


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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

JS In fact, they recommended that I open the message from the
JS Web mail alternative.  Bad suggestion IMO

why is it a bad suggestion?

As far as I see it, it may be your only chance to read the message.
And if it's not private, I would send it to RIT labs to help them fix
the bug.

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

JS Unfortunately, Popcorn will not allow me to redirect that
JS message without first downloading it...

I think you won't find a program like that, because it goes beyond the
capabilities of the POP protocol. The protocol allows you to receive
and/or delete the mails in the server, but there's no command to
send/redirect an incoming mail.

Maybe if the mail server provides web access, you can use their site
to send the message.

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