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Hello Ladies and Gents, What does this mean WARNING: there were no compatible authentication mechanisms detected I send mail through a authentcated system (SMTP Auth). I am having some doubts about where my email is coming from though, due to some weird headers(Previous Post long ago!) -- Best regards, Michael http://.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0x3CC985FA SIGNS YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO AT WORK No longer content with merely photocopying your hand, you now scan and enhance it with Photoshop. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problem with repeated copies of parked messages
Hello alists, On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:21:41 -0700 GMT (05/10/02, 04:21 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awc I've been going through my email and see a problem i'm not sure awc what is causing it.. those that are parked have sometimes 50, 60, awc 100 copies of the same parked message in the folder!! awc any idea what causes this? I use parks a lot because i'm a quick awc deleter!! :) If you copy a parked message from one folder to another, the copy will be parked, too. If you run the filter again (like manually on your Inbox were the original message is), then it will be copied again, so you have two identical parked messages in the destination folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You have a right to your opinions. I just don't want to hear them. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I filter for this?
Hello Jan, On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:18:44 -0400 GMT (05/10/02, 04:18 +0700 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR I don't think so. Every group Yahoo! groups, for example, has JR the list name contained by []. Not true. Our very own TBOT does not have this: it is optional and can be set/unset by the list owners. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message import error message
Hello Graham, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:05:43 +1000 GMT (05/10/02, 07:05 +0700 GMT), Graham Connolly wrote: GC When I attempt to import my Outlook 2000 address book I get the GC error message Not enough storage is available to complete this GC operation. I have tried the import using two different drives, GC each with over 3GB of space, and I still get the message. Try splitting the import up, for example by seperating the mails into different folders first. Then import a mouthful at a time, so that TB does not choke on the big amount. I suspect TB uses the RAM, and there is actually not enough memory (despite the error message saying storage). Let us know whether this works. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Be more or less specific. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Features galore -
Hello Joseph! On Friday, October 4, 2002 at 11:50:57 PM you wrote: awc Regardless of what some people think, email is a logical part of awc a PIM I couldn't agree more! I am sure I do know only half of what you agree with, but if from A follows B it doesn't mean that from B follows A. Therefore e-mail may be a logical (even necessary) part of a PIM, but not the other way round. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ein politischer Kommentar? - Salzflecken bekommt man am besten mit Rotwein raus. (Aleks Papst) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP
Hello David! On Saturday, October 5, 2002 at 4:55:39 AM you wrote: You will not notice a reduction in SPAM if you only report it to spamcop. I doubt that you will notice a reduction at all, not so much because I doubt SpamCop but because of the vast increase in junk mail that is foreseen by various studies for the next few months/years. Some of them even think that we will see as much spam in the future to render e-mail practically unusable. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Don't punish others for their lack of insight. (Derek Leveret) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using filters with a mailgroup
Well, I've looked but I probably can't see the wood for the trees. I'm slowly getting to grips with all the features of this programme but can't find a way to move messages from the Inbox to a specific folder which contains 60 names. I want to sort mail from all or any of those names to the corresponding box and am sure I don't have to input each address separately but can't find the correct way of doing it. Richard Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using filters with a mailgroup
Hello Richard, I want to sort mail from all or any of those names to the corresponding box and am sure I don't have to input each address separately but can't find the correct way of doing it. Go to the Advanced tab of the filter and scroll down, you will see the option Address(es) must be listed in address book. Once you select this, you also have the option to The address entry must belong to groups. I think that is what your are looking for. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message import error message
Saturday, October 5, 2002, 6:37:14 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Graham, TF On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:05:43 +1000 GMT (05/10/02, 07:05 +0700 GMT), TF Graham Connolly wrote: GC When I attempt to import my Outlook 2000 address book I get the GC error message Not enough storage is available to complete this GC operation. I have tried the import using two different drives, GC each with over 3GB of space, and I still get the message. TF Try splitting the import up, for example by seperating the mails into TF different folders first. Then import a mouthful at a time, so that TB TF does not choke on the big amount. TF I suspect TB uses the RAM, and there is actually not enough memory TF (despite the error message saying storage). TF Let us know whether this works. Yep this worked - the error is definitely related to the number of messages being imported at one time. Cheers Graham Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb
Hello Batmans, Something bad happned, so that The Bat dont' want to show messages (except parked) in Inbox folder But messages.tbb do contains much MORE messages... Any advices would be very appreciable !!! Regards, Your sincerely registered 3AHO3A [EMAIL PROTECTED]|2:5012/18.2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using filters with a mailgroup
Hello Miguel, Saturday, October 5, 2002, 10:22:53 AM, you wrote: MAU Go to the Advanced tab of the filter and scroll down, you will see the MAU option Address(es) must be listed in address book. Once you select MAU this, you also have the option to The address entry must belong to MAU groups. Gosh I'm so thick, never saw the scroll bar down the side of the Advanced tab! It works a treat thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb
Hello Alexander, Something bad happned, so that The Bat dont' want to show messages (except parked) in Inbox folder But messages.tbb do contains much MORE messages... Any advices would be very appreciable !!! Go to main TB menu and select View/Display/All messages. Does it help? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb
Hello Alexander, Saturday, October 5, 2002, 12:41:39 PM, you wrote: AAG Something bad happned, so that The Bat dont' want to show messages AAG (except parked) in Inbox folder Go to View, Display, and select All messages. If this isn't the problem, then I don't know what could be wrong. -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using filters with a mailgroup
Hello Richard, Gosh I'm so thick, never saw the scroll bar down the side of the Advanced tab! Don't worry, many people have missed and do miss the scroll bar at first. :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:glyphs
Hi Luc. At 9:50 PM on Friday, October 04, 2002 you [L] wrote the following about 'glyphs': JR I've saved an altered TB! glyph file to The Bat! directory with JR the name glymph.bmp, closed down re-started TB! w/o luck. So I JR must be missing something. L Try saving it as glyphs.bmp Sorry, typo. My file is actually 'glyphs.bmp' Maybe I need a re-boot but I don't know why that would be the case. The bmp has all the icons used by TB! in one file which I d/l a long time ago when the discussion on changing TB!'s toolbar appeared. Where did your glyph.bmp come from? Maybe that's the problem although, again, I don't know why. TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:How do I filter for this?
Hi Thomas. At 4:28 AM on Saturday, October 05, 2002 you [TF] wrote the following about 'How do I filter for this?': JR Every group Yahoo! groups, for example, has JR the list name contained by []. TF Not true. Our very own TBOT does not have TF this: it is optional [...] Fair enough, Thomas. That should teach me never to use words like never or every. How about many or most? The effect would allegedly most probably be sort of like, similar, or have some attributes of the supposed point I was attempting to bring to the fore, however, maybe. :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote:' JR Sorry, typo. My file is actually 'glyphs.bmp' Maybe I need a JR re-boot but I don't know why that would be the case. You need only exit and restart TB!. There's no need to reboot. JR The bmp has all the icons used by TB! in one file which I d/l a JR long time ago when the discussion on changing TB!'s toolbar JR appeared. Where did your glyph.bmp come from? Maybe that's the JR problem although, again, I don't know why. If it's still not working for you then we have to check the obvious. The first was the file name. The other is if you've looked at the glyphs themselves. There are a couple that have glyphs almost identical to TB!'s default. Have you inspected the glyphs to see what the differences are? - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9nuXNV8nrYCsHF+IRAnRJAKCmpFrCviIKQHwdUdWDq90zO+PLYgCgyA2Q FNfhW9VSFzj7Wvi7aEanC8U= =DgKD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
All templates, changing standard language
Hello tbudl, After a new install all my templates of 4 accounts are in the Dutch language. Maybe because during or after install I choose for the Dutch interface. But I went back to the English interface and also prefer the templates in English. Is there a quick way to change them all from Dutch into English? -- Best regards, Jos Klaassens Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
* Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've saved an altered TB! glyph file to The Bat! directory with the name glymph.bmp, closed down re-started TB! w/o luck. So I must be missing something. - Options - Preferences - [x] High colour images ... maybe... *shrug* -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.62/Beta5) Business Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:glyphs
Hi Allie. At 9:14 AM on Saturday, October 05, 2002 you [ACM] wrote the following about 'glyphs': ACM [...] if you've looked at the glyphs ACM themselves. There are a couple that have ACM glyphs almost identical to TB!'s ACM default. Have you inspected the glyphs ACM to see what the differences are? Yes, I looked at all the glyph.bmp files chose one that was the most different from the default. :-? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Strange emails
I know this is OT, but there's a wealth of knowledge on this list: I'm seeing strange incoming email for about 3 weeks now, at the rate of one every 3 or 4 days; the [From] header usually includes 4 numbers + my user name, the return address includes my email address, the message is addressed to my email account, and the subject header includes what appears to be Japanese or Chinese characters and English text. The message also appears to have been sent from a hinet.net server. The oddest part is that the email contains the text of a just received message... yet when you re-read it the text changes to the text of ANOTHER message in the same folder. What's going on here? Art mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Strange emails
Hi Art, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 10:06 AM, mentioned about OT: Strange emails: A I'm seeing strange incoming email for about 3 weeks now, at the rate of A one every 3 or 4 days; the [From] header usually includes 4 numbers + A my user name, the return address includes my email address, the message A is addressed to my email account, and the subject header includes what A appears to be Japanese or Chinese characters and English text. The A message also appears to have been sent from a hinet.net server. hinet.net is really hinet.net.tw which is from Taiwan. The 4 numbers, plus your return address, ... well, it is probably spam to begin with. A The oddest part is that the email contains the text of a just received A message... yet when you re-read it the text changes to the text of ANOTHER A message in the same folder. It is probably from a spam program which is not RFC 2821(SMTP) or RFC 1652 (8-bit MIMEtransport) compliant, and your ISP's SMTP does not recognize it and mangles it during receipt, as they (ISP) may not have an 8-bit clean extended character MTA. It could also contain java script which is not a good thing.. Personally I would filter it to go to the bit bucket (trash), so you never see it, using something like reg ex on kludges using ^.*@hinet.net*, or something more exotic such as (^(To|Cc|From):.*@hinet.net*) I filter this junk from DNS and my MTA before it hits my box. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Try to relax and enjoy the crisis. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
Good afternoon Jan, It was foretold that on 5-10-2002 08:14:17 GMT-0400 (which was 14:14:17 where I live) Jan Rifkinson spread these wise comments: snipped a bit JR Where did your glyph.bmp come from? Maybe that's the problem JR although, again, I don't know why. A reboot isn't necesarry, just an exit and start up again. My guess would be that something's wrong with the files you dl'd. Here's where i got mine: http://tronogi.tripod.com/ostalo.html Maybe try them and it works. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.61 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. Fun is inexhaustible, seriousness not. - Johann Paul Friedrich Richter, writer, 1763-1825. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to
Hi ~John! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, October 5, 2002, 1:30:37 PM, you wrote: jI need to know how to create a filter, or something that will show jall e-mails that I have Replied to with a line going through it. jOr in other words have the messsage displayed with text that is jstiked through. The icon on the left side changes when you reply to a message; is that sufficient for your needs? -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: glyphs
Replying to your message of Saturday, October 5, 2002, 10:20:46 AM: JR I now have new glyphs How about a list of all the possible glyphs that are available for TB!? -- Pete www.milneweb.com Saturday, October 5, 2002 10:34:48 AM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.61 Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All templates, changing standard language
Hallo Jos, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:56:48 +0200GMT (5-10-02, 15:56 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JK After a new install all my templates of 4 accounts are in the Dutch JK language. Maybe because during or after install I choose for the Dutch JK interface. Yep, that's why. JK But I went back to the English interface and also prefer JK the templates in English. JK Is there a quick way to change them all from Dutch into English? Since you're using the English interface now, every new account you'll create will use English templates. There are two possible ways to go. Create a new account (with English templates) and copy and paste those templates to your Dutch accounts. Or create new copies of your accounts and delete the old ones. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Strange emails
Hello Gary, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:44:27 -0500 GMT (05/10/02, 22:44 +0700 GMT), Gary wrote: G hinet.net is really hinet.net.tw which is from Taiwan. It is the biggest ISP in Taiwan, and it is hinet.net (.net as the TLD, without .tw). www.hinet.net They used to be my main ISP when I lived in Taiwan, so the recommendation to filter out everything from them is not a good idea, if another user in Taiwan joins this list. G The 4 numbers, plus your return address, ... well, it is probably G spam to begin with. ACK. A The oddest part is that the email contains the text of a just received A message... yet when you re-read it the text changes to the text of ANOTHER A message in the same folder. G It is probably from a spam program which is not RFC 2821(SMTP) or RFC 1652 G (8-bit MIMEtransport) compliant, and your ISP's SMTP does not recognize it G and mangles it during receipt, I would like to see that. Once a message is in the TB folder, it cannot be mangled any more. G as they (ISP) may not have an 8-bit clean extended character MTA. G It could also contain java script which is not a good thing.. But the script wouldn't execute under TB. Art, could you MIME-forward suc a message to me by PM? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You have a right to your opinions. I just don't want to hear them. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to
Hello ~John, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:30:37 -0700 GMT (06/10/02, 01:30 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: ~ I need to know how to create a filter, or something that will show ~ all e-mails that I have Replied to with a line going through it. ~ Or in other words have the messsage displayed with text that is ~ stiked through. You can create a Replied filter which changes the colour. You would need to create a coulr group first (under the Message menu). I'm afraid strikeout is not possible, but maybe you can live with colours. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hilf einem Freund in der Not und er wird sich an dich erinnern, wenn er wieder in Not ist. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:57:51 +0200 GMT (05/10/02, 15:57 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: You will not notice a reduction in SPAM if you only report it to spamcop. DH I doubt that you will notice a reduction at all, not so much DH because I doubt SpamCop but because of the vast increase in junk DH mail There are two factors here: Using SpamCop should reduce the amount of spam, because they report to the ISP. Responsible ISP's will close their open relays, or the account in question, and irresposnsible ISP's will be blacklisted by ORBL. On the other hand, as you correctly pointed out, the amount of spam is steadly increasing. Also, new ISP's come up all the time and may have new open relays. So it's an uphill struggle. But is is worth it. If we don't take action via SpamCop (or otherwise), we will be flooded with spam until the prediction comes true: DH Some of them even think that we will see as much spam in the DH future to render e-mail practically unusable. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I filter for this?
Hello Jan, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 08:18:45 -0400 GMT (05/10/02, 19:18 +0700 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Fair enough, Thomas. That should teach me never to use words like JR never or every. g JR How about many or most? If you have the statistics and now that most groups use the [groupname] option, you can use that word. Otherwise, I would recommend many. g JR The effect would allegedly most probably be sort of like, similar, JR or have some attributes of the supposed point I was attempting to JR bring to the fore, however, maybe. :-) There is a difference between incorrect precision and general vagueness. ;-) f'up2:tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Der Tabellenerste kann jederzeit den Spitzenreiter schlagen. (Berti Vogts) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Features galore -
On Saturday, October 05, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: awc Regardless of what some people think, email is a logical part of awc a PIM JN I couldn't agree more! DH I am sure I do know only half of what you agree with, but DH if from A follows B DH it doesn't mean DH that from B follows A. DH Therefore e-mail may be a logical (even necessary) part of a PIM, but DH not the other way round. Dierk, Full PIM functionality is not necessary in a capable email package; I agree with you on that. My only point was agreeing with the notion that email would be a valuable complement to a full-featured PIM. That's one reason why Outlook and Notes are so useful. I'm going to explore switching from using both TB! and Lotus/IBM Organizer, both of which I think are outstanding programs, to using only AbacusLaw, a PIM that integrates The Bat! as the email client. The issue will be whether I gain enough from having TB! integrated into the full PIM to justify losing the power and office-suite-integration features of Lotus/IBM Organizer. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: All templates, changing standard language
Hello Roelof, Saturday, October 5, 2002, 6:43:30 PM, you wrote: RO Since you're using the English interface now, every new account you'll RO create will use English templates. ...and after a few minutes copying and pasting, all in English again now. Thanks. -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
On Saturday, October 5, 2002 10:35 your local time, which was 09:35 my local time, Pete Milne [PM] wrote; JR I now have new glyphs PM How about a list of all the possible glyphs that are available for TB!? I agree! -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton AV. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Stupid Envelope Question.
Hi all, Sorry, but I need to ask this, apologies if I appear stupid, but need to know. Why do some envelopes appear a different colour when they appear in my inbox? Is it something to do with the importance level? Thanks and apologies, Chris Weaven -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton AV. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid Envelope Question.
Hi Chris! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, October 5, 2002, 1:47:23 PM, you wrote: CW Why do some envelopes appear a different colour when they appear in my CW inbox? Is it something to do with the importance level? Yes, press F9 to check the header to see. This one is LOW priority. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid Envelope Question.
Hi Scott, On Saturday, October 5, 2002 13:48 your local time, which was 11:48 my local time, Scott McNay [SM] wrote; CW Why do some envelopes appear a different colour when they appear in my CW inbox? Is it something to do with the importance level? SM Yes, press F9 to check the header to see. This one is LOW priority. Ok, thought it was and just wanted to check. Just for test purposes, I've set this as high priority. Cheers, Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton AV. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid Envelope Question.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Weaven [CW] wrote:' CW Why do some envelopes appear a different colour when they appear CW in my inbox? Is it something to do with the importance level? The envelope colour indicates message priority: yellow - normal blue - low red- high You can adjust both your outgoing and incoming message priorities. For outgoing messages, left clicking the little bat icon in the status bar of the editor toggles the priority for the message. You can also right click the same little bat icon to get a context menu from which you can choose the message priority. Finally, you can change it via the editor's option menu. You can adjust received message priority through an incoming filter action or manually, through a hotkey assigned filter. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9nzXGV8nrYCsHF+IRAkYdAJ9p3ruUNOlk2GjwlbRKGAmEuXHEjwCg7NBm OOFSm+UgH8kBIE8jNZQzXyU= =XOoS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid Envelope Question.
Hallo Chris, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:47:23 -0700GMT (5-10-02, 20:47 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: CW Why do some envelopes appear a different colour when they appear in my CW inbox? Is it something to do with the importance level? Yep. High importance is red. Normal is yellow. Low importance is green (or blue, I'm a bit colorblind) Of course you realize that this means that messages with a low importance emphasize there presence because of the means that ought to diminish their importance. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to
Hi Thomas. At 1:42 PM on Saturday, October 05, 2002 you [TF] wrote the following about 'Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to': TF [...] You would need to create a coulr TF group first (under the Message menu). I'm TF afraid strikeout is not possible, but TF maybe you can live with colours. [/...] The first part of this statement is accurate. The 2nd part isn't. Under fonts there is a strike through option. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid Envelope Question.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Chris, @5-Oct-2002, 11:47 -0700 (19:47 UK time) Chris Weaven [CW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CW Why do some envelopes appear a different colour when they appear CW in my inbox? Is it something to do with the importance level? Priority: Red = High, Blue = Low, Yellow = Normal. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9nzroOeQkq5KdzaARArENAKDHtNl6PBazrtKnd1x2b4wPFRB0/QCcC5WU H3TeJVzimRj8cJoXVPLjnxs= =ACkL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Strange emails
Hi Thomas, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 12:39 PM, you mentioned about OT: Strange emails: T It is the biggest ISP in Taiwan, and it is hinet.net (.net as the TLD, T without .tw). www.hinet.net They used to be my main ISP when I lived in T Taiwan, so the recommendation to filter out everything from them is not T a good idea, if another user in Taiwan joins this list. True, this is subjective depending on where you live, and what mail you are accustomed to receiving. I don't know the full capabilities of using reg ex in TB!, but I do know them in Unix/Linux... It would be interesting to see if TB! would filter on the IP address of the sender, or a block of addresses. That would work, providing that remains constant from a few emails that Art was receiving. That way, hinet.net could be left intact. G The 4 numbers, plus your return address, ... well, it is probably G spam to begin with. T ACK. A The oddest part is that the email contains the text of a just received A message... yet when you re-read it the text changes to the text of ANOTHER A message in the same folder. G It is probably from a spam program which is not RFC 2821(SMTP) or RFC 1652 G (8-bit MIMEtransport) compliant, and your ISP's SMTP does not recognize it G and mangles it during receipt, T I would like to see that. Once a message is in the TB folder, it T cannot be mangled any more. Of course, I was referring to the ISP's MTA, whether it be Sendmail, Postfix, qmail, or 100s of others.. Once the mail is received and stored by the ISP, and is pop'd or IMAP'd mail into TB!, it can be already mangled from the ISP's MTA. The above 3 MTAs are fully compliant, but I have seen this many times with non-compliant MTAs. G as they (ISP) may not have an 8-bit clean extended character MTA. G It could also contain java script which is not a good thing.. T But the script wouldn't execute under TB. Of course. The damage was initially done from the MTA either from hinet.net on sending, or from Art's ISP in receiving, or the spammer's software itself. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Strange emails
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 2:19:46 PM, Gary wrote: G Hi Thomas, G On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 12:39 PM, you mentioned about OT: Strange emails: ... T But the script wouldn't execute under TB. G Of course. The damage was initially done from the MTA either from G hinet.net on sending, or from Art's ISP in receiving, or the spammer's G software itself. Gary, I've got to admit that I don't understand a lot of this... but why would the CONTENTS of the message keep changing when you review it in the TB! Preview pane? And Thomas, I've deleted the messages from my PC, but will send you a MIME copy when I receive the next one. Thanks for all the help, guys. -- Artmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Strange emails
Hi Art, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 2:32 PM, you mentioned about OT: Strange emails: A I've got to admit that I don't understand a lot of this... but why A would the CONTENTS of the message keep changing when you review it in A the TB! Preview pane? And Thomas, I've deleted the messages from my PC, A but will send you a MIME copy when I receive the next one. In many mailers, if the headers are really fouled up, the message contents will not read correctly, or partially, and demonstrate symptoms as you described. I don't know specifically if this is true with TB! It is just a logical possibility, as I have seen this happen many times (not with TB!). You can view the headers in TB! by hitting Ctl+Shift K. Does this occur when you do not view that email in a preview pane, but within TB! itself? Also, have you compressed your folders in TB! Next time you get one, can you forward a copy to me also. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: I was trying to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re[2]: Stupid Envelope Question.
CW Just for test purposes, I've set this as high priority. Hmmm. Priority flags don't make it into digest mode. Just as well, I guess, but Yet Another Thing To Bug The List Developers About. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why Bat! is a better Email Client Than Outlook
Hello Anthony, Friday, October 4, 2002, 4:29:27 PM, you wrote: AXC Hi All, AXC While doing my research, I stumbled on the following survey on email AXC user behavior. A interesting read, and make me realize why Bat! is AXC better and Outlook sucks. AXC http://research.microsoft.com/research/coet/Email/TRs/01-88.pdf This is a quite interesting article. Now I wonder was that evaluation in a purely business context? Has anyone done a pure home or recreational analysis of usage patterns? Or at least not warped by atypical focus of usage in a workplace. It never mentions anything about volume. How many messages viewed or trashed over X time. or X months. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can only connect when The Bat starts.
When I open The Bat my mail is sent and downloaded perfectly and, thereafter, nothing happens apart from could not connect to the server messages. In Account/Properties/Network I have Use account specific network settings and LAN or manual connect ticked. I have the same in Options/Network and Admin. In Account/Properties/Mail I have Check mailbox at startup and Periodical checking set but all I get is a bleep from the speaker when it attempts the periodical checking. Richard Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hallo Richard, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:22 +0100 (BST)GMT (6-10-02, 0:22 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RW When I open The Bat my mail is sent and downloaded perfectly and, RW thereafter, nothing happens apart from could not connect to the server RW messages. This happens while you're connected? RW In Account/Properties/Network I have Use account specific network RW settings and LAN or manual connect ticked. RW I have the same in Options/Network and Admin. When you're using the second, you don't need the first option enabled. Though I don't see why it'd cause any troubles. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! for my Mum - several questions
After recently cleaning out all the viruses from my mother's computer, I've decided it's time she changed from Outlook Express to TB! I've set up her account in TB!, and set up AVG. I'm now trying to anticipate her problems in adjusting. She can just manage to use Outlook Express, Internet Explorer and Word. Anything else is too hard (I'm still not sure if she's understood how to use folders yet). 1. I know lots of people have problems with the editor when they first use it. What options should I have turned on? For my own use, I normally have Autoformat off and Autowrap on. My feeling is it's probably better to have Autoformat on for my mother, as she's unlikely to be able to reformat a block when she edits a line. 2. How do you make TB! ask for confirmation before going online? If the connection option is set to LAN or Manual, then it seems TB! will not do anything if there's no connection. If it's set to dial-up, then it connects without confirmation. That's what I've set it to at present, but I'd prefer for my mother to know with no doubt when she is going online. 3. HTML mail. I don't think my mother has any reason to send HTML mail, so that part's not a problem. Most of the HTML mail she receives is really just text sent as HTML. She also receives a few store catalogues and specials offers, which all display perfectly. However, each month she receives a report related to her breeding program. The report comes as an HTML mail. It should show six graphs, four tables, and some text. The figures are attached to the email. In TB!, these emails do not display correctly. The left edge (about 1 cm) of the first figure appears. Where the remainder of the figures should be is all blank. The tables and text appear correctly below the blank area of figures. If I double-click to open the html attachment in Internet Explorer, the figures do not appear. The space where each should appear is clearly marked, and there is a little picture icon in the top left corner of each rectangle, but I can't make the pictures appear. If I save all the attachments to a folder and open the message.htm attachment, I get the same as if I double-clicked in TB! Similarly if I export the email as .eml and open it in Outlook Express. The email received in Outlook Express displays perfectly. Unless someone can tell me how to make these emails display correctly in TB! (no complicated workarounds), I will have to uninstall TB! and go back to Outlook Express (unless someone can suggest another mailer that would be more secure and work perfectly for my mother). My mother returns tomorrow, and I leave tomorrow night. So this has to be solved quickly. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! for my Mum - several questions
Hi Tim! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, October 5, 2002, 5:51:11 PM, you wrote: T After recently cleaning out all the viruses from my mother's computer, T I've decided it's time she changed from Outlook Express to TB! T I've set up her account in TB!, and set up AVG. I'm now trying to T anticipate her problems in adjusting. She can just manage to use T Outlook Express, Internet Explorer and Word. Anything else is too hard T (I'm still not sure if she's understood how to use folders yet). T 1. I know lots of people have problems with the editor when they first Tuse it. What options should I have turned on? TFor my own use, I normally have Autoformat off and Autowrap on. My Tfeeling is it's probably better to have Autoformat on for my Tmother, as she's unlikely to be able to reformat a block when she Tedits a line. T 2. How do you make TB! ask for confirmation before going online? TIf the connection option is set to LAN or Manual, then it seems TB! Twill not do anything if there's no connection. If it's set to Tdial-up, then it connects without confirmation. That's what I've Tset it to at present, but I'd prefer for my mother to know with no Tdoubt when she is going online. T 3. HTML mail. TI don't think my mother has any reason to send HTML mail, so that Tpart's not a problem. TMost of the HTML mail she receives is really just text sent as THTML. She also receives a few store catalogues and specials offers, Twhich all display perfectly. THowever, each month she receives a report related to her breeding Tprogram. The report comes as an HTML mail. It should show six Tgraphs, four tables, and some text. The figures are attached to the Temail. TIn TB!, these emails do not display correctly. The left edge (about T1 cm) of the first figure appears. Where the remainder of the Tfigures should be is all blank. The tables and text appear Tcorrectly below the blank area of figures. TIf I double-click to open the html attachment in Internet Explorer, Tthe figures do not appear. The space where each should appear is Tclearly marked, and there is a little picture icon in the top left Tcorner of each rectangle, but I can't make the pictures appear. TIf I save all the attachments to a folder and open the message.htm Tattachment, I get the same as if I double-clicked in TB! TSimilarly if I export the email as .eml and open it in Outlook TExpress. TThe email received in Outlook Express displays perfectly. TUnless someone can tell me how to make these emails display Tcorrectly in TB! (no complicated workarounds), I will have to Tuninstall TB! and go back to Outlook Express (unless someone can Tsuggest another mailer that would be more secure and work perfectly Tfor my mother). T My mother returns tomorrow, and I leave tomorrow night. So this has to T be solved quickly. I suspect that TB! has problems with displaying HTML. Here's what you can do to crank down the security in OE. Go to Tools | Options | Security. Set it for Restricted Zone, Warn when other applications try to send mail as me, and Do not allow potentially-dangerous attachments to be saved or opened. Then, go to IE, Tools-Internet Options-Security-Restricted Sites | Custom Level, Set everything to Disable or High Safety. Next, save that and click Tools-Windows Update, and make sure that you have all of the security patches installed. That will make OE about as secure as you can manage. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
This happens while you're connected? Yes, and my other mail programme works perfectly alongside it (no, they aren't RW In Account/Properties/Network I have Use account specific network RWsettings and LAN or manual connect ticked. RW I have the same in Options/Network and Admin. When you're using the second, you don't need the first option enabled. Though I don't see why it'd cause any troubles connecting at the same time). OK, I've deleted the second one and it's even weirder. I close TB and re open it and get the first connection. I can now get a second connection but, after that, nothing more :-( Richard Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello there, Sunday, October 6, 2002, 1:22:00 AM, Richard Wakeford wrote: RW When I open The Bat my mail is sent and downloaded perfectly and, RW thereafter, nothing happens apart from could not connect to the server RW messages. Are you running ZoneAlarm by any chance? If yes, it is probably the culprit. To fix this, add your pop server's IP in ZoneAlarm's local zone and all should be fine. -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello Alexander, On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 at02:27:43[GMT +0300](which was 00:27 where I live) you wrote: AC Are you running ZoneAlarm by any chance? If yes, it is probably AC the culprit. To fix this, add your pop server's IP in ZoneAlarm's AC local zone and all should be fine. That's already in but I've now found that The Bat will only connect if I have the fire wall set to medium security, not a very good thing with ADSL on all the time. Will I just have to live with that? I don't fancy it very much. -- Best regards, Richard Using The Bat! 1.61 with Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello Richard On Saturday, October 5, 2002, you wrote That's already in but I've now found that The Bat will only connect if I have the fire wall set to medium security, not a very good thing with ADSL on all the time. Will I just have to live with that? I don't fancy it very much. I am using medium for local and high security for internet and am on cable and it works. Have you tried that in ZoneAlarm? (I am using free, not pro version, and prefer the earlier version, not the ZA3+ now being offered so don't know if you are affected by the program's recent changes). TheBat is set to bring down mail every five minutes into three accounts, two from cable mail server and one a pop3 download. Elaine Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello ETM, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 at20:51:04[GMT -0400](which was 01:51 where I live) you wrote: E I am using medium for local and high security for internet and am E on cable and it works. Have you tried that in ZoneAlarm? (I am E using free, not pro version, and prefer the earlier version, not E the ZA3+ now being offered so don't know if you are affected by E the program's recent changes). TheBat is set to bring down mail E every five minutes into three accounts, two from cable mail E server and one a pop3 download. Well, I can have local on high but not internet, it just refuses to work. I've posted a question in the ZoneAlarm forum so I'll see what happens. Thanks anyway. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hi Richard, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 7:35 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can only connect when The Bat starts.: R That's already in but I've now found that The Bat will only connect if R I have the fire wall set to medium security, not a very good thing with R ADSL on all the time. Will I just have to live with that? I don't fancy R it very much. It is *not* TB! It is any MUA. They all use the same standard ports. This is because when you send and recieve mail, it uses 2 ports, 25 for SMTP and 110 for POP3. If you use SSL or IMAP, those are other ports It is not a question of your mailer... it is a question of you knowing your firewall. Just set your firewall to open up port 25, and/or 110, experiment a little. I am sure you can open up individual ports, instead of a general medium security. If you use IMAP and/or SLL to your ISP, let us know... -- Best regards, Gary I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello Gary, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 at20:13:39[GMT -0500](which was 02:13 where I live) you wrote: G It is *not* TB! It is any MUA. They all use the same standard ports. G This is because when you send and recieve mail, it uses 2 ports, 25 for G SMTP and 110 for POP3. If you use SSL or IMAP, those are other ports G It is not a question of your mailer... it is a question of you knowing G your firewall. Just set your firewall to open up port 25, and/or 110, G experiment a little. I am sure you can open up individual ports, instead G of a general medium security. If you use IMAP and/or SLL to your ISP, G let us know... I never said it *was* TB, honest :-) Your suggestion was perfect and TB now works every time (so far!) Many thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hi Richard, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 8:25 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can only connect when The Bat starts.: R I never said it *was* TB, honest :-) LOL... R Your suggestion was perfect and TB now works every time (so far!) Great news... might have to reset it again if you reboot, unless you can save your changes to the default setting, not that familiar with windows firewalls, but the principle is the same when it comes to ports ... ports is ports.. R Many thanks. Glad to be of help.. Always good to have another Bat flying about the Web. -- Best regards, Gary A flashlight is a case for holding dead batteries. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hi Richard, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 8:25 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can only connect when The Bat starts.: G It is not a question of your mailer... it is a question of you knowing Gyour firewall. Just set your firewall to open up port 25, and/or 110, Gexperiment a little. I am sure you can open up individual ports, Ginstead of a general medium security. If you use IMAP and/or SLL to Gyour ISP, let us know... On second thought, you probably do not need to keep port 25 (SMTP) open, unless you are running your own mail server. Try closing that down, and sew what happens when you send mail. You should be able to send mail even though it is not open. OTOH, leave port 110 open, so you can fetch or POP your mail... This way, you will not have to keep port 25 open at all. -- Best regards, Gary Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello Gary, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 at20:55:34[GMT -0500](which was 02:55 where I live) you wrote: G On second thought, you probably do not need to keep port 25 (SMTP) open, G unless you are running your own mail server. Try closing that down, and G sew what happens when you send mail. You should be able to send mail even G though it is not open. OTOH, leave port 110 open, so you can fetch or POP G your mail... This way, you will not have to keep port 25 open at all. I did a reboot and the settings stayed in ZoneAlarm. I've now removed port 25 and TB works fine with just having 110 open. I've only been using TB for 3 days but it's a real journey of exploration. I wish it could show bold and italic words instead of just *bold* or is that yet another setting I've missed? -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hi Richard, On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 9:02 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can only connect when The Bat starts.: R I did a reboot and the settings stayed in ZoneAlarm. I've now removed R port 25 and TB works fine with just having 110 open. Good deal, this should work very nicely for you now. R I've only been using TB for 3 days but it's a real journey of R exploration. I wish it could show bold and italic words instead of R just *bold* or is that yet another setting I've missed? It takes time to learn all the features that are available in TB! However, these additional things are not necessary to get or send mail. I am not familiar with showing italic words, as this would require a rich text format, or HTML sending. -- Best regards, Gary I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to
Hello Jan, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:02:51 -0400 GMT (06/10/02, 02:02 +0700 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR The first part of this statement is accurate. The 2nd part isn't. JR Under fonts there is a strike through option. Please advise how you can change the font of a message in the message list by filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello Gary, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 at21:12:06[GMT -0500](which was 03:12 where I live) you wrote: G It takes time to learn all the features that are available in TB! However, G these additional things are not necessary to get or send mail. It certainly does. I'll get there in the end because I will definitely buy this in a few days time. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hi Richard, On Sunday, October 6, 2002 03:02 your local time, (07:47 my local time), you [RW] wrote: RW I wish it could show bold and italic words instead of just *bold* RW or is that yet another setting I've missed? You haven't missed anything. TB! is a plain text mail client. While it can view inbound HTML messages, you can't composed HTML messages with TB! -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ 5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! for my Mum - several questions
Hi Tim, On Sunday, October 6, 2002 08:51 your local time, (04:36 my local time), you [T] wrote: T If I double-click to open the html attachment in Internet Explorer, T the figures do not appear. The space where each should appear is T clearly marked, and there is a little picture icon in the top left T corner of each rectangle, but I can't make the pictures appear. AFAIK, TB! doesn't download pictures with HTML mail. This is not a bug or a limitation but a security feature. The spammers frequently use pictures to confirm your mail address - which obviously results in more spam. T The email received in Outlook Express displays perfectly. Needless to say a perfect environment for spammers to exploit. T Unless someone can tell me how to make these emails display T correctly in TB! (no complicated workarounds), I will have to T uninstall TB! and go back to Outlook Express No need to revert back to OE T (unless someone can suggest another mailer that would be more T secure and work perfectly for my mother). Yes: Pocomail (www.pocomail.com). Fantastic mail client with HTML support both ways. Has an option to toggle picture(s) download on/off. IMO, the best client after TB! Easy to use yet all advance functionality exist for power users. -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ Buy one for the price of two and get the second one free! ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
spamcop.bat missing
well, I figured out why my spamcop filter isn't working. the spamcop.bat file is missing. I checked the archives and didn't see it, how do I get it back??? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spamcop.bat missing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC well, I figured out why my spamcop filter isn't working. the PC spamcop.bat file is missing. I checked the archives and didn't PC see it, how do I get it back??? Spamcop.bat is created by the filter that's triggered by the spamcop autoresponder messages. You don't have to worry about where it is. The filter is all that you need. Here's a copy of mine which you'll have to edit after importing. I use Netcaptor so you'll have to edit it to invoke your preferred browser.: BeginFilter Name: SpamCop AutoResponder Active: 1 Source: \\alliem\Inbox Target: \\\Spam\Autoresponder CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: \22c:\5CSoftware\5CNetcaptor\5CNetcaptor.exe\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0Aexit\0D\0A SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9n7avV8nrYCsHF+IRAim7AKC5L0S+xCN1eIBFOPe79zV03UEhgwCguZ7J 7m2fNMT7Hgz4VA+JFIjw+vU= =iDhQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter that strikes out messages that have been replied to
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 at 09:19:53 [GMT +0700], you wrote: TF Please advise how you can change the font of a message in the TF message list by filter. First create a Color Group by clicking Options - Message List and Color Groups. Make sure you check the Strikethrough option. Next open your filters, create a new filter in Replied. Next put the symbol as the string text for sender and presence is Yes. On the Actions tab, put a check in Set the Message Color Group to, and choose the strikethrough color group you made. The only issue is trying to keep the messages in the same folder. I still haven't figured out why there isn't a checkbox to disable the Move Message to Folder option. Other than that it works fine. Cheers, Leif Gregory -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site http://www.PCWize.com TB FAQ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a P4 1.6Ghz OC'd to 2.32Ghz with 512MB. Tagline of the day: A peeping Tom is a guy who is too lazy to go to the beach. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can only connect when The Bat starts.
Hello Sudip, On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 at08:22:16[GMT +0545](which was 03:37 where I live) you wrote: SP You haven't missed anything. TB! is a plain text mail client. While it SP can view inbound HTML messages, you can't composed HTML messages with SP TB! OK. It's just that in AMEOL, my offline reader, if you put *bold* then the reader interprets that and makes the word into bold text even though it's a plain text reader too. Ah well, can't have everything :-) -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
