Re: new mail at top/bottom
Hello Elaine, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 3:51:44 AM, you wrote: Indeed. Returning to the last message viewed allows me to leave a folder to look at something else, then return and pick up where I left off. I like the option as well, but I compact every night before signing off. Alas, my place is lost when I open up the next day. I compress the folders but it does not lose his focus. BTW your -- is missing. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: As for Swen.A - every one of those messages sits in my quarantine folder, having been easily identified by my AVG plug-in. Do you also get the pop-up window each time the virus is identified and quarantined? I have the AVG plug-in too, but am using v1.62r and the free edition of AVG. Can you disable this in other versions? -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filter Syntax
Quoting Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [SNIP] By now I am of the opinion that the ISP should delete Swen server-side. They should have an interest in eradicating it, as it is costing them a lot of bandwidth and therefore money, it annoys the users, and enough users might click on them and spread it further. Two of my ISPs have now started using Interscan VirusWall (I am sure there are other products) and I merely get a message saying: Receiver, InterScan has detected virus(es) in the e-mail attachment. My POP3/smtp provider (not my ISP0 puts email through 3 virus checkers, and I get a similar message. As they are coming through at a rate of over 1 a minute it seems a good idea. But it's a paid option. The impact of this volume on ISPs must be huge. I imagine some are cracking under the strain. [NIP] Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Messages in Outbox sent by accident
Hello, Thomas: Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 1:22:50 AM, you wrote: (snip) DAI noticed earlier that it also stops me from deleting mail in the DAOutbox, but I didn't twig. TF This has been changed in v2. You can now delete those messages, TF but TB will ask you first (are you sure). Thank you for this. -- Best wishes, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V2 Some observations
Hi Bat Users, I have installed V2 last week and I have noticed some differences in behavior from previous versions, which I would like all of you to have a look at. 1) V2 creates more duplicate email msg¦s I now have 200 duplicates every now and then in 1 day in 1 folder. That is much more then I had before. I use SMTP/POP3 on all but 1 account and this is not the one. 2) Restore from backup not complete I made a back up and reinstalled that on my laptop but not all the msg were restored. I had to do a restore, for the same file, at least twice to get all the email in all the folders. I had all option marked when doing the backup and restore. 3) The TB! folder on my drive was filled with 92 tmp files I have thrown them all out now, but I think it is sloppy programming. 4) V2 seems slightly slower then the previous version on some actions. I regularly mark folder read with 80 msg. This is visibly slower in V2 5) A file that is saved to the virtual folder my documents is save to the real folder AND PATH of the user on win2K. This becomes a problem if you switch users and do a save because it gets save in the file structure of the original user and not the current one. I just noticed this and this might have been pre-V2 behaviour to. Are you guy¦s and girls seeing this to? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- At night, a golfer can program her mind with great expectations. But she must throw them away when she steps onto the first tee. Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
Hi Ken, @24-Sep-2003, 01:57 -0500 (07:57 UK time) ken green [K] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As for Swen.A - every one of those messages sits in my quarantine folder, having been easily identified by my AVG plug-in. K Do you also get the pop-up window each time the virus is K identified and quarantined? No. That is disabled. K I have the AVG plug-in too, but am using v1.62r and the free K edition of AVG. Can you disable this in other versions? I disable it using the Configure button in the Anti-virus plug in Preferences screen in TB. I think (and I may be wrong) this was present in 1.62. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
On Tue 23 September 2003, 16:39:32 +1000, rich gregory wrote: Anyway, I still need to be able to edit messages I have a filter that uses a simple batch file and my editor to do this pretty seamlessly. See my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Re: Changing received mail subject) of this morning (my time) Robin -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
attachment details in the sent email printout
Hello TBUDL, i often send document attachment and keep copy of the email sent.. the print out so taken for the email sent doesnot contain the document .. how to get the document in the print out.. -- Best regards, pradeep_minoo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachment details in the sent email printout
Hello pradeep_minoo, how to get the document in the print out.. Use the %ATTACHMENTS in your print template. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2 Some observations
Hello Gerard, 1) V2 creates more duplicate email msg¦s Not here. 2) Restore from backup not complete Don't know, I don't use TB's backuprestore. 3) The TB! folder on my drive was filled with 92 tmp files I have thrown them all out now, but I think it is sloppy programming. Only till I exit TB, and that is in my TEMP folder, not TB's. 4) V2 seems slightly slower then the previous version on some actions. I regularly mark folder read with 80 msg. This is visibly slower in V2 Don't quite understand what you mean. 5) A file that is saved to the virtual folder my documents is save to the real folder AND PATH of the user on win2K. That is not a TB issue, is the normal behaviour of My Documents in Win2K. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: attachment details in the sent email printout
Hello MAU, can u pl. elaborate..how to do that.. using ver 2.00.6 thanks Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 4:45:33 PM, you wrote: M Hello pradeep_minoo, how to get the document in the print out.. M Use the %ATTACHMENTS in your print template. -- Best regards, pradeep_minoomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
suggestion: logging for kill filters
Hi everyone, One of my killfilters just finished with an email I would have liked to receive and/or read. I only found out by comparing the log from spampal ... SpamPalLog 030924-135311 -- none [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamPalLog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confirmation -- send email when the item is in stock ... with TB!'s log TB!'s_log 24.09.2003, 13:53:11: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new TB!'s_log 24.09.2003, 13:53:12: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received I have some 16 killfilters, all of which refer to external textfiles, and they (the textfiles!) total to some 37k. Up to now I failed to spot the reason, why this mail has been killed. A more detailed log would definitly make my search easier. Would you also like to have log list the reason(s) why any mail has been deleted on the server? Is there sufficient interest to add the matter to the wishlist? -- still searching, Peter Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachment details in the sent email printout
Hello pradeep_minoo, can u pl. elaborate..how to do that.. using ver 2.00.6 thanks On the main TB window menu select Message/Print Setup/Template and, for example below %Text, include the macro %ATTACHMENTS. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 2:57:59 AM, ken green wrote: kg Do you also get the pop-up window each time the virus is identified kg and quarantined? I have the AVG plug-in too, but am using v1.62r and kg the free edition of AVG. Can you disable this in other versions? I'm using the same as you - 1.62r the free version of AVG. You can choose what you want to happen when a virus is received, by going to Options - Virus Protection. -- Deborah Never face facts; if you do, you'll never get up in the morning. - Marlo Thomas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2 Some observations
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 4:30:15 AM, Gerard wrote: G 2) Restore from backup not complete GI made a back up and reinstalled that on my laptop but not all the Gmsg were restored. I had to do a restore, for the same file, at least Gtwice to get all the email in all the folders. GI had all option marked when doing the backup and restore. I just moved TB from one computer to another had this happen, using the same version (1.62r) on both computers. My common folders didn't appear at all until the third time I restored. -- Deborah A straw poll only shows which way the hot air blows. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download / filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:33:49 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: Selective download / filter Greetings Allie, On Monday, September 22, 2003, 10:25:24 PM, you wrote: Allie Manually scanning all incoming mail with the dispatcher ... more work. I absolutely agree with all your statements Allie. Why need I do the work when another application or filter can do so? Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Endless Love: Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles playing tennis. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP3B2Zbwi09Hs/j+VEQJ4dQCgozYuKCy0WGdnkc43QM6UF0PKrPgAoMEO oyqoxz7L4LGp2BFtdoLxA/OJ =F3YV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Are we talking about taking the time (an extra step) to put an exclamation at the beginning of every memo, just so that the column width can be set to 7? It's most likely just to accommodate the fact that the message list typically uses proportional fonts, and to provide a consistent visual cue. For example, at a column width of 7, you'll only see a single PIXEL for some characters, such as a capital T, which might be missed in a quick visual scan. And if you widen it, you'll end up with a variable number of characters appearing in that column, which is kinda messy. I'm pretty sure ! was selected because it's a single pixel wide and effectively provides a consistent visual icon, not unlike the park/flag symbols. -- zParticle Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
ken green wrote: Are there are any plans to allow the memo window to be docked? That would solve these issues. If the memo window could be docked on the preview window screen, then the ability to change the subject line would almost become a moot point. Yep, that's exactly what it needs to make the memo feature useful on a regular basis. Or if the programmers want to get fancy, make the entire memo appear as a tooltip when mousing over the memo column. For bonus points, allow in-place editing of the memo from the column list (like renaming a file in Windows Explorer). -- zParticle Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: suggestion: logging for kill filters
Peter Asenbauer wrote: One of my killfilters just finished with an email I would have liked to receive and/or read. During my quest to understand/configure Selective Download, I have created 2 filters and 2 signal string files to load: SPAMkill and SPAMignore. The SPAMignore filter/file is much more restrictive to allow for over-zealous filtering. I leave messages on the server for 1-5 days (mostly 1) and just remember to use dispatcher to check on any ignored messages before deleting them each night. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
Deborah W wrote: I'm using the same as you - 1.62r the free version of AVG. You can choose what you want to happen when a virus is received, by going to Options - Virus Protection. Thank you, thank you, thank you (Marck too) -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
Thomas Fernandez wrote: This is how I deal with that plague: I have a seperate address for PM, and that one does hardly get any spam, and it hasn't received Swen (yet?). The addresses for NGs and MLs are set to not download message over 50KB but delete them right on the server (Account / Properties / Mail Management). If you are on lists with large attachments, this won't work for you, though. This has turned out to be such a great idea for me!!! I was concerned about missing legitimate messages that were over 50K and set my mail list account to 100K. (I occasionally receive product info msgs to this address) This morning, my server received two more Swen.A messages, and I get this: A message with the size exceeding 100 K bytes limit has arrived to your address - the message number on the server is 14. Please take care of it by yourself The message header follows [snip] I'm not sure if everyone already knows that TB does this (I'm kind of slow), but what a great feature! Not only does limiting the download size help with virus control, but it will greatly benefit me when traveling (laptop, modem dial-up). I've never used the size restriction before because I was worried that I'd miss stuff I wanted to see. Very cool! -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange and very annoying: I now often get prompted for username/pwd - what can I do? (TB! 1.62)
Hello list, I've been using TB! for a few years now... but now I got a real problem I can't seem to figure out. Perhaps someone on the list can give me a hint with my problem. I'm using The Bat! 1.62, there are multiple mail accounts set up. These accounts use different providers. The PC is connected to a LAN all the time. Now, sometimes when the automatic mailbox check is done or when I press check mail for all, I get prompted with a window to confirm username and password and a checkbox named Update account's data. This shouldn't happen - the accounts have not changed in any way. When I press OK, The Bat! reports an error... (mostly: connection to host broken). When I then press get new mail for this mailaccount, it works without error - so the settings were still correct! I have experimented a little with authentication settings, no luck. The only indicator I have is that it might be related to the number of different mailproviders... sounds stupid, huh? But it happened only sometimes when I had my mailaccounts at only two providers; now that they are distributed over three, it happens every few minutes! Has anybody seen this? Or, better yet: does anybody know a fix? TIA for any answer! Georg -- Best regards, gd_news mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filter Syntax
ken green wrote: Also (to Joseph N.) - I am currently dealing with the same virus e-mails you are filtering for. Problem is, every time I think I got a domain and/or subject line variation in my spamkill text file, another variant shows up. A comprehensive list is available here, at least until another variant shows up: http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/swen.shtml As discussed in the Agent newsgroup, a regular expression filter on these two strings catches 99% of these: Content-Type: multipart/(mixed|alternative); boundary\=([a-z][a-z]*) To catch the rest, you'll need to relax or tweak the boundary expression a bit, as some contain nonalpha characters. -- zParticle Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello zParticle et al, I originated the ! commnet. Sorry for the delay in responding. Sven is giving my system fits. Not infecting system, just a lot of messages carrying Sven. On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 07:40:33, you wrote: I'm pretty sure ! was selected because it's a single pixel wide and effectively provides a consistent visual icon, not unlike the park/flag symbols. Exactly. It's a kludge admittedly, but one that seems appropriate given the many other items Stefan et al must attend to. Sheeesh, I never know what's going to ignite a debate on TBUDL. ;-) -- Regards, Paddy L Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
Robin Anson wrote: See my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Re: Changing received mail subject) of this morning (my time) How did you create this link? Since the message was already downloaded, I was able to open it immediately. Very nice. I see you used the message ID - is the magic part putting mid:; in front? -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filter Syntax
zParticle wrote: As discussed in the Agent newsgroup, a regular expression filter on these two strings catches 99% of these: Content-Type: multipart/(mixed|alternative); boundary\=([a-z][a-z]*) Thank you very much for that reference. I need to brush up on regex. Just to be clear: are you talking about using those filters above with Selective Download or regular Incoming filters? AVG steps in before TB processes any Incoming filters. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange and very annoying: I now often get prompted for username/pwd - what can I do? (TB! 1.62)
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:32:48 +0200, gd_news wrote I'm using The Bat! 1.62, there are multiple mail accounts set up. These accounts use different providers. The PC is connected to a LAN all the time. Now, sometimes when the automatic mailbox check is done or when I press check mail for all, I get prompted with a window to confirm username and password and a checkbox named Update account's data. This shouldn't happen - the accounts have not changed in any way. Don't know that I have an answer, but can confirm I see the same thing from time to time (using v 1.62). I have 8 or 9 accounts, but see the error in the same 1 or 2. The only thing I have been able to surmise is that it is an error on the server side where the auhtentication fails, but doesn't report out as such. HTH, Patrick G. (Sorry if this dupes - looks like I sent from an unsubbed address the 1st go- round) -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
List problem?
Is it the list or me? I have received no posts from TBUDL or TBBETA, both of which usually teem with new messages. -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing message in Dispatcher
If I invoke Mail Dispatcher to see all messages on the server and try to view a message nothing happens unless I check the message to be received. Is this normal behavior? I can understand the logic behind this behavior, but is there a UI reason behind it? This behavior seems very awkward/inefficient for reading mail on the server remotely. Why the extra step? I understand that new messages will automatically be checked to Receive, but if I have a machine at work that is frequently downloading mail but leaving a copy on the server, that message is marked Read, so the Receive box is unchecked when checking through Dispatcher. Note that I'm not asking for messages to all be marked Received - that would defeat the purpose of using Dispatcher and Selective Download. I'm just wondering why I can't select a message in Dispatcher, hit Enter and view that message, regardless of flags set for that message. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing message in Dispatcher
24-Sep-2003 19:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just wondering why I can't select a message in Dispatcher, hit Enter and view that message, regardless of flags set for that message. I'm doing exactly that with the Dispatcher in 1.62r (at work when I check my mails - during lunchbreak only, of course;-) and it works just like expected. It sometimes doesn't work for the very first message though, but navigating through the list with the keyboard/cursor keys using enter to read/open a message then works fine. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Give me, Mother, luck at my birth, then throw me if you will on the rubbish heap. -- Bulgarian Proverb Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
Hi Ken, @24-Sep-2003, 11:18 -0500 (17:18 UK time) ken green [K] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Re: Changing received mail subject) of this morning (my time) ... snip K I see you used the message ID - is the magic part putting mid:; K in front? Yes. I use this macro: mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=;(.*)%REGEXPMATCH=%OMSGID -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
Hello ken, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:18:13 -0500 GMT (24/09/2003, 23:18 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: How did you create this link? Since the message was already downloaded, I was able to open it immediately. Very nice. I see you used the message ID - is the magic part putting mid:; in front? Yes. Look for the message-ID of the mail you want to refer to, add mid:; in front of it, and TB will find it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 10. Your boss is always yelling, I wanna see your butt in here by 8:00. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List problem?
Hello Joseph, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:46 -0500 GMT (24/09/2003, 23:28 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: Is it the list or me? I have received no posts from TBUDL or TBBETA, both of which usually teem with new messages. I have received several on both. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: It is always possible to park directly outside any building you are visiting. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing message in Dispatcher
Alexander wrote: It sometimes doesn't work for the very first message though, but navigating through the list with the keyboard/cursor keys using enter to read/open a message then works fine. Thank you, that was it. Using the arrow keys to select a message - works like a charm! -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
rich gregory wrote: I finally decided that TB likes OLDEST mssgs at the top! I noticed that the TB* archives use newest thread at top, with the messages themselves sorted date ascending - using the oldest message of that thread at the top-level. For those using newest at top, this is a really great set up for reading threaded mailing lists. Maybe everyone knows this already (it took me awhile to find this setting when I was using newest top): Preferences Message List The oldest message begins a thread by Subject/From/To *off-topic Is is redundant to say the TheBat! ? And how do you punctuate that last sentence? Even with quotes, it still looks weird: Is is redundant to say the TheBat!? /off-topic -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyGate 2.5
Hello! Finally... MyGate v2.5 released. Welcome to http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ What is short list of changes: * some options were not saved or did not work * authorization mechanism in SMTP NNTP gate updated * advanced subscription settings is back from MyGate 2.3 * removed slang from MyGate responses, which now also include NNTP error messages * fixed Range check error and Bit array access error * crossposting is supported since now * added X-MyGate-MID for filtering crossposted messages * program was translated on Italian (Marcello Rossi) and German (Thomas Martin, Andreas Rumpenhorst) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: List problem?
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it the list or me? I have received no posts from TBUDL or TBBETA, both of which usually teem with new messages. TF I have received several on both. Thomas, It was me, not the list. My gmx.net account filled up so quickly with such large Swen.A messages, that mail was being bounced and the TB forum listservers disabled my mail. I have now created some filters for the Swen messages (took me blinking forever going back and forth to Babble Fish to translate the German options), and I've re-enabled my list mail. -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello! AP What is short list of changes: Eeerr, oops... did I say that? 8) /me Gone to have some beer... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replying to messages to post new
I've noticed the well-done moderator templates used for things like reminding us to quote at bottom, configure signatures correctly, etc. But I haven't seen anything for people who want to post a new thread, and select a message, hit Reply, strip everything out, insert new subject and body, then send. When viewing threads by reference, things get screwed up this way. I am constantly switching between view by reference and view by subject. Neither view seems to be perfect (and that may be because of humans and not TB). Online archives (which view by ref) get messed up, and you can't switch that view! Since this is an account-level option (view by Thread setting affects all folders in that account), I'd consider this issue to be pretty low priority. (I can just see me trying to convince 20+ lists to post a certain way - perhaps this is why no moderator intervention?) -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello Andrew, Andrew, AP Finally... MyGate v2.5 released. Welcome to AP http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ Thanks very much! (from all of us NG junkies, I think) -- Neal Laugman Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying to messages to post new
Hello ken, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 12:48:49 PM, you wrote: kg I've noticed the well-done moderator templates used for things kg like reminding us to quote at bottom, configure signatures kg correctly, etc. Thanks. kg But I haven't seen anything for people who want to post a new kg thread, and select a message, hit Reply, strip everything out, kg insert new subject and body, then send. We do have one, see the bottom of the message. When we see someone blatantly change the topic by reply, we use the below template. However, for messages getting out of whack in view by reference, I have noticed that from time to time, but don't know exactly why it happens as I never really looked into the headers. I'll start paying attention to that to see what I can come up with. moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ken. Please don't use reply to start a new thread. Your question has been posted at the bottom of an unrelated topic. The Bat! is a threading mail client. See View | View threads by | Reference to see where it ended up. The result is that it will only be seen by those reading that thread instead of by all users. I recommend that you post your question again using a New message if you want to see more replies to your query. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying to messages to post new
Hi Ken, @24-Sep-2003, 13:48 -0500 (19:48 UK time) ken green [K] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: K But I haven't seen anything for people who want to post a new K thread, and select a message, hit Reply, strip everything out, K insert new subject and body, then send. We have them, but it takes noticing what's happened. Viewing through the ticker, I often miss such a faux pas. I shall have to keep a keener eye on it. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Multiple Responses re. Selective Download Filter Syntax
Thanks to all those who replied to my query about selective download filter syntax. Ironically, I received none of the replies, because TBUDL blocked my mail due to excessive bounces from my ISP, which in turn was due to my mailbox constantly becoming full from Swen.A messages. I have now fixed that problem and am back in the flow. So here, a tad late, are a few responses: * To Roelof: Because of the single quotation marks But the TB! help file specifically says to use single quotation marks: ---Begin Text--- ... Pipe character | can be used when the signal string contains two alternatives. For example, string John|Jack means that the filter will search for John OR Jack in the specified location. If either is present, the search is successful. If neither are present, the search fails. ... Any text containing the special characters mentioned above must be enclosed in single quotes ---End Text--- * To Ken: You've probably already fixed your situation, but the signal string I was using for selective downloads is the one I posted with my initial query. It was only about 65% effective, so I have switched strategies. I am now filtering at the ISP level for all messages over a certain size. Since I only use this address for newsgroups and mailing lists, it should work fine; at least, it has been working so far today * To zParticle: Thanks for the helpful cross-ref to the Agent NG. -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Palm Connection
Hello All, I know this subject has come up several times in the past, but I was wondering, if a full fledged conduit for the Palm operating system is not likely, and not being a programmer myself, if it is possible to just write a script that will cull all of the addresses from the Palm desktop and update the address book in TB? I ran across something like this some time ago for Eudora and it works well. It is a one way update, but better than doing it manually through a vcf extraction and import. What do you-all think? -- Best regards, Freddie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! - MyGate posting problem
Hello Andrew, JP MyGate came back with error message (similar to) Posting failed - JP server suspiciously refused to accept MyGate creates logs in /log/ subdir (if you turned this option on). Look through it yourself or send it to me directly. Today, for the first time, I started to get this error when trying to send a reply to a newsgroup. I logged several sessions and the error actually reported by the news server is: news.fu-berlin.de:119 441 Duplicate Mime-Version header And it is true, this is a transcript of part of the session: ,- [ ] | References: | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MIME-Version: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit `- It looks like MyGate is adding the first MIME-Version line. I have sent other messages with no problem, but this specific one causes always the same error if I try to send it. Heh, v2.5 will be a bit more specific in messages ;) Patience, please. It will be ready tomorrow or after tomorrow 100%. Yesterday was tomorrow and today is after tomorrow ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Andrew, On 24-09-2003 20:30, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Finally... MyGate v2.5 released. Welcome to A http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ Thank you! A * added X-MyGate-MID for filtering crossposted messages Is this related to an MSID token of any sort? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello Andrew, /me Gone to have some beer... Thanks for the news version ;-) There is a few of us here who owe you some beer ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying to messages to post new
Hello ken, Since this is an account-level option (view by Thread setting affects all folders in that account) It is a folder-level setting, at least in my case :) And it was so with version 1.6x also. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp PLAYING: Soundscape UK - Feel The Love (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT
Hello Everyone! Is there an expression like %NOUSEPGP that I can put into the address book for TBOT such that I won't have to turn PGP/Mime off in the Privacy menu of the Edit Mail Message window and, in addition, uncheck the boxes related to PGP in Account/Properties/Options? When I don't do both of these things, I get a double-spaced post on TBOT. I know, it is an old Yahoo! problem, and PGP/Mime may not always be the cause. But it seems to be, in my case. No post of mine was ever double-spaced before I got V. 2.00.6 of The Bat! and enabled PGP/Mime. And %NOUSEPGP, for the Bat lists, kept my signature delimiter out of trouble. It's a minor thing to have to remember to do, but with all the conveniences The Bat! offers, I would really rather not be having to run back and forth to Account/Properties when I do actually want to sign a message with PGP, and it would also be more comfortable to me not to have to remember to change the Privacy menu, depending on my recipient. %NOUSEPGP is working just fine in the AB templates for friends and family to whom I write privately--it keeps the potentially confusing little ? button off those mails. And I thought it was doing okay for the lists, also. But just having the PGP/Mime options exist apparently throws Yahoo!'s wheels into a skid. Anyway, if anyone knows an easier way for me to keep the extra line feed out of my posts to TBOT, I would be forever grateful if you would tell it to me! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why MyGate with TB!?
Why do people use MyGate - The Bat! for their newsgroups? Why not a specialized newsreader like xnews? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hi Andrew, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, at 21:30:05 [GMT+0300] (which was Thu, 4:30:05 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Finally... MyGate v2.5 released. Thanks also from myself. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A bachelor enjoys the chase but doesn't eat the game. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why MyGate with TB!?
Dave, On 24-09-2003 22:12, you [D] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: D Why not a specialized newsreader like xnews? I (also) run XNews, but I prefer to have it all in one place. I prefer the TB editor, macros, templates, etc. I also like the spell check. MyGate is not fit for binaries and I am not able to do some stuff I can in XNews (mark read in cross-posted groups, keyboard move to next unread thread, etc). But I still prefer MyGate. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 24 September 2003, 15:07 -0500 (21:07 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Is there an expression like %NOUSEPGP that I can put into the address MB book for TBOT such that I won't have to turn PGP/Mime off in the MB Privacy menu of the Edit Mail Message window and, in addition, uncheck MB the boxes related to PGP in Account/Properties/Options? Add the following to your folder template: %NOPGPMIME% %NOSIGNCOMPLETE%- - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP3IC9lv+PP8p0/caEQIsbwCeKTqXhPvre7CexBhB2qMv/CJR0CsAoOP2 Ey3GwkULgKBIY7GM2ZSC/No7 =2S71 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why MyGate with TB!?
Hello Peter, I prefer to have it all in one place. That is one important reason for me. I prefer the TB editor, macros, templates, etc. Very right. And don't forget filters. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT
Hi Martin, @24-Sep-2003, 21:47 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Mary: MB Is there an expression like %NOUSEPGP ... MW Add the following to your folder template: MW %NOPGPMIME% MW %NOSIGNCOMPLETE%- Hold it - either %NOUSEPGP or %NOSIGNCOMPLETE is enough. %NOPGPMIME is only of use to programmatically turn off PGP/MIME when using PGP or signing with it. By signalling no signing or no PGP, it's redundant to turn off PGP/MIME too. Maybe a tad pedantic, but helps to clarify the logic. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why MyGate with TB!?
MAU, On 24-09-2003 22:57, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I prefer the TB editor, macros, templates, etc. M Very right. And don't forget filters. Yes and no. In Xnews there are some more newsreader-like filters I miss: different filter settings (view threads with unread, etc.) for each group. Of course this is possible in TB but takes longer time/more work. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
Wednesday, September 24, 2003, ken green wrote: Is is redundant to say the TheBat! ? Do you say the Eudora, the Becky, the Outlook Express? -- Urban The sun never set on the British Empire because the British Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 3:47 PM, you wrote: MB Is there an expression like %NOUSEPGP that I can put into the address MB book for TBOT such that I won't have to turn PGP/Mime off in the MB Privacy menu of the Edit Mail Message window and, in addition, uncheck MB the boxes related to PGP in Account/Properties/Options? M Add the following to your folder template: M %NOPGPMIME% M %NOSIGNCOMPLETE%- Thanks a million, Martin!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Faulty editor action in subject line
Open an Edit mail message window. Enter a subject at least 4 or 5 words in length. Place the cursor at the beginning of the 2nd word from the left. Hold down SHIFT + CTRL while pressing the right arrow (words right of the cursor become highlited). Once several words are highlited (and still holding the SHIFT + CTRL keys now press the left arrow key. See the incorrect action of the editor? It doews not un-highlite what you just highlited, it instead now highlites the first word of the subject w/o undoing the highlighting you would normally be undoing with this action. It works fine in the message itself, but editing the subject is not working right. QUESTION: Will having posted this message here (as opposed to at RITs' site) do anything at all toward alerting them (RitLabs) that such a problem exists? I find that I get better responses to my queries here than there and I'd hate like h*ll to have to post everything twice!! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, On 24 September 2003, 22:00 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Is there an expression like %NOUSEPGP ... MW Add the following to your folder template: MW %NOPGPMIME% MW %NOSIGNCOMPLETE%- MDP Hold it - either %NOUSEPGP or %NOSIGNCOMPLETE is enough. MDP %NOPGPMIME is only of use to programmatically turn off PGP/MIME when MDP using PGP or signing with it. By signalling no signing or no PGP, MDP it's redundant to turn off PGP/MIME too. MDP Maybe a tad pedantic, but helps to clarify the logic. Yes, you're correct. This is a remnant from copying a template from TBUDL (my earlier example was from TBOT). For this list I use: %NOPGPMIME%- %USEPGP%SIGNCOMPLETE%- Although I see you use PGP/MIME on TBUDL. Anyway, I will amend my TBOT templates for correctness. :-) - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP3IOsFv+PP8p0/caEQJYaQCgoI66EQxV4jL6n8f0gH9McGk+TY8An0OI MW6N2BdN5zV8rB4h38hGW3LX =rb9p -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help with AddHeader, SetHeader ?
Hi, Can anyone help me out or give me an example of the use or syntax for the AddHeader and SetHeader macros. I hate to be stupid but I can't seem to get them to work... G... it's bugging me! -- Jim PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Faulty editor action in subject line
Hello rich, QUESTION: Will having posted this message here (as opposed to at RITs' site) do anything at all toward alerting them (RitLabs) that such a problem exists? I find that I get better responses to my queries here than there and I'd hate like h*ll to have to post everything twice!! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html I have purposely quoted even the trailer included by the list server in every message. If you click the link: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html You will read this: ,- [ ] | The moderation team and all subscribers to this list wish you a warm | welcome and hope that you do, and continue to, find this list useful. | Please note that this list is neither hosted, maintained nor moderated | by Ritlabs, but instead by registered users of The Bat! as yourself. The | moderation team therefore has no inside knowledge on TB!'s development. | Neither can we influence TB!'s development path more than other users. `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with AddHeader, SetHeader ?
Hello all, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, Jim Dever wrote: Can anyone help me out or give me an example of the use or syntax for the AddHeader and SetHeader macros. I hate to be stupid but I can't seem to get them to work... G... it's bugging me! Try for example %SETHEADER(X-My-Header,BlaBla), but You must add X-My-Header field to Preferences | Message headers dialog first. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.15 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 5:14:40 PM, Urban wrote: U Do you say the Eudora, the Becky, the Outlook Express? No, because the names of those programs are Eudora, Becky Outlook Express spit G But the name of this one is The Bat. The The is part of its name. Confused yet? -- Deborah Canis meus id comedit. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with AddHeader, SetHeader ?
Hello Marek, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 6:07:22 PM, you wrote: Can anyone help me out or give me an example of the use or syntax for the AddHeader and SetHeader macros. I hate to be stupid but I can't seem to get them to work... G... it's bugging me! Try for example %SETHEADER(X-My-Header,BlaBla), but You must add X-My-Header field to Preferences | Message headers dialog first. Ahhh... now that worked! Thanks... s.. what's the difference between %SETHEADER and %ADDHEADER ??? Jim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Screen readers and TheBat
Hi all, Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com) with TheBat? Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why MyGate with TB!?
Hallo Peter, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:34:04 +0200GMT (24-9-03, 22:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: D Why not a specialized newsreader like xnews? PF I (also) run XNews, but I prefer to have it all in one place. PF I prefer the TB editor, macros, templates, etc. I've used TB for a while for my usenet stuff, not with MyGate but with Mailtraq, but the difference is negligible. These days I'm using Agent. I actually do prefer TB's templates, macros etc, but it's just missing quite a bit of usenet functionality, like follow-ups etc. TB's editor is way better, but TB in usenet is behaving like a Ferrari without a reverse. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 2:31:28 PM, ken green wrote in the message new mail at top/bottom mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: *off-topic Is is redundant to say the TheBat! ? And how do you punctuate that last sentence? Even with quotes, it still looks weird: Is is redundant to say the TheBat!? /off-topic From looking at the Ritlabs web site, I have determined the following: 1) The Bat! should be written as such. It is not the Bat, TheBat, theBat!, TheBat!, or variation thereof. 2) When The Bat! ends a sentence, no period is needed. For example: I am checking my e-mail with The Bat! 3) When you end a question with The Bat!, a question mark is needed (Just like when your question ends with a quotation.). For example: Will you help me with templates for The Bat!? 4) If an exclamation ends with The Bat!, I would have three exclamation points at the end. For example: I LOVE The Bat!!! NB: Number four is more so a matter of style than the others. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Responses re. Selective Download Filter Syntax
Hallo Joseph, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:01:54 -0500GMT (24-9-03, 21:01 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Because of the single quotation marks JN But the TB! help file specifically says to use single quotation marks: JN Pipe character | can be used when the signal string contains JN ... JN Any text containing the special characters mentioned above JN must be enclosed in single quotes Thus stating that if you're using single quotation marks, the pipe character will be taken literally and not as a separator between alternatives. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: suggestion: logging for kill filters
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 9:17:46 AM, Peter Asenbauer wrote in the message suggestion: logging for kill filters mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone, One of my killfilters just finished with an email I would have liked to receive and/or read. I only found out by comparing the log from spampal ... SpamPalLog 030924-135311 -- none [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamPalLog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confirmation -- send email when the item is in stock ... with TB!'s log TB!'s_log 24.09.2003, 13:53:11: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new TB!'s_log 24.09.2003, 13:53:12: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received I have some 16 killfilters, all of which refer to external textfiles, and they (the textfiles!) total to some 37k. Up to now I failed to spot the reason, why this mail has been killed. A more detailed log would definitly make my search easier. Would you also like to have log list the reason(s) why any mail has been deleted on the server? Is there sufficient interest to add the matter to the wishlist? I think that that would be a great feature. If the developers were feeling particularly energetic, they could put a Verbose Logging option on the Options or Advanced tab in the Sorting Office/Filters. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Error, no keyboard-press F1 to continue. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: thebat.exe 100% CPU usage ... please help!
David- I had the 100% CPU usage thing on a client's win2k server for quite a while. I went back and forth uninstalling and reinstalling among several TB versions but never could quite figure out what was going on. Pausing the antivirus software (Symantec Corporate) got things going a bit better. Sometimes. I finally bit the bullet and reinstalled Win2k over the existing installation and everything's been fine since. It turns out that TB was exhibiting the most symptoms because it gets used the most, but the real problem was the OS. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
Thursday, September 25, 2003, Deborah W wrote: No, because the names of those programs are Eudora, Becky Outlook Express spit G But the name of this one is The Bat. The The is part of its name. Confused yet? Not really... The The Bat e-mail client... could be a bit mind-boggling, but it seems correct. (Nope, I'm not a linguist so I have to go on gut feeling on this one) The Bat e-mail client... is plainly wrong, because Bat! (if there exists one of those) is another piece of software. A much better approach altogether would be The e-mail client The Bat... Canis meus id comedit. That looks like latin. I don't know latin. Translation pleease. -- Urban A scout obeys all to whom obedience is due and respects all duly constipated authorities. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Multiple Responses re. Selective Download Filter Syntax
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RO Thus stating that if you're using single quotation marks, the pipe RO character will be taken literally and not as a separator between RO alternatives. Roelof, (spoken softly, with slightly sunken head) Oh -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: new mail at top/bottom
At 7:13 PM on 9/24/2003, Chris typed ... From looking at the Ritlabs web site, I have determined the following: C 1) The Bat! should be written as such. It is not the Bat, TheBat, CtheBat!, TheBat!, or variation thereof. As much as I like The Bat, as an editor I abhor this advice from the website and do not follow it. Ritlabs must present its trademark with the exclamation point, but others need not do this. It is sufficient in general use, and particularly in running text, to simply capitalize the name. The same is true of things like eBay and dBASE. There is no need to follow goofy capitalization in running text. Ebay and Dbase are just fine. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/24/2003 at 8:09 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: An attacker must vanquish, a defender need only survive. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
Hello Deborah! On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 5:26 PM, you wrote: U Do you say the Eudora, the Becky, the Outlook Express? D No, because the names of those programs are Eudora, Becky Outlook D Express spit G D But the name of this one is The Bat. The The is part of its name. Very clearly put, Deborah. Want lessons from my little cats on spitting? They sometimes throw in a hiss and a growl when OE gets mentioned. For The Bat!, they purr and purr! D Confused yet? I hope he is not. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
Hello Chris! On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 6:13 PM, you wrote, in part: C I LOVE The Bat!!! C NB: Number four is more so a matter of style than the others. And opinion, as, I *Love* The Bat! g SCNR! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 7:08:32 PM, Urban wrote in the message new mail at top/bottom mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Canis meus id comedit. That looks like latin. I don't know latin. Translation pleease. My dog chewed it up. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Would a fly without wings be called a walk? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PIM app for The Bat?
Hi... Im a brand new user of The Bat... trying out the demo version So far so good Question. does RIT have a good PIM app that works well wit The Bat so that I could give up total use of Outlook? Or... does there exist any PIM apps that do work well with Bat? Thanks! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new mail at top/bottom
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 7:08:32 PM, Urban wrote: Canis meus id comedit. U That looks like latin. I don't know latin. Translation pleease. My dog ate it :-) -- Deborah Invest in the human soul. Who knows, it might be a diamond in the rough. - Mary McLeod Bethune Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?
The TBUDL archive used to have a link on RitLabs site, but no longer. Does anyone know where it is? Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...Why is the third hand on the watch called the second hand? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?
Hi Paul, @25-Sep-2003, 11:48 +1000 (02:48 UK time) Paul Berger [PB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PB The TBUDL archive used to have a link on RitLabs site, but no PB longer. PB Does anyone know where it is? See the bottom of this message? And the message you posted? Well, all of the information about these lists is there. Including the address of the archive. Enjoy! -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?
Good morning Paul, It was foretold that on 25-9-2003 @ 11:48:32 GMT+1000 (which was 3:48:32 where I live) Paul Berger would mumble: snipped a bit PB The TBUDL archive used to have a link on RitLabs site, but no longer. PB Does anyone know where it is? Every message on this list get's this link: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Click and at the right side under content is a link to the archives. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 and using the best browser: Opera. A computer is almost human - except that it does not blame its mistakes on another computer. - Anonymous Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?
@25-Sep-2003, 02:53 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul: MDP See the bottom of this message? Okay - bad example. My messages are PGP/MIME signed so the footer is pushed into part.txt. Right theory, wrong universe. Look at part.txt or any non-PGP/MIME signed message. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why MyGate with TB!?
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:18:34 +0200 GMT (25/09/2003, 06:18 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: D Why not a specialized newsreader like xnews? PF I (also) run XNews, but I prefer to have it all in one place. PF I prefer the TB editor, macros, templates, etc. I am also very little in the usenet at all, mainly reading specialised NGs when I'm on to something (like now security issues on wireless networks), throw in an odd question, but mail is really my main medium. For the little I do in the usenet, I don't want to fire up (let alone download and install) another software. TB/MyGate does what I need. If I spent more time in the usenet, I'd probably go for a dedicated software (i.e. a newsreader) that also understands scoring, follow-up, etc. TB in usenet is behaving like a Ferrari without a reverse. ;-) LOL! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was ist das Problem der heutigen Gesellschaft - mangelndes Wissen oder mangelndes Interesse? - Weiss ich nicht, ist mir auch egal. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing Mail setup from Eudora v6
Hi all, can I import my entire mail setup from Eudora bv6 into TheBat? I have already imported my mail boxes but what about my address books and filters? Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Application error when clicking on a particular help topic
Hi all, I am running a demo version of TheBat. When I click on the topic Sorting Office - general information I get the following error Main Window Title: winhlp32.exe - Application Error The instruction at 0x010062c1 referenced memory at 0x039be000. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program OK Cancel How do I fix this? I am running Version 2.00.6 of TheBat. Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Pranav, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 04:25:11 +0530 GMT (25/09/2003, 05:55 +0700 GMT), Pranav Lal wrote: Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com) with TheBat? Several people are. I know that TB works very well with Jaws. There are also WindowEyes users on this list. What is your question? Just fire away. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ZWIEBELN statt Kiwis kaufen! Sie sind laenger haltbar und ausserdem preiswerter. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic
Hello Pranav, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:50:24 +0530 GMT (25/09/2003, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Pranav Lal wrote: When I click on the topic Sorting Office - general information I don't have this. I have: Account / Properties / General (and some other choices) and I have: Account / Sorting Office / Incoming (and some other choices) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PIM app for The Bat?
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, J wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: J Or... does there exist any PIM apps that do work well with Bat? J, I hope someone will disagree with me on this and provide a good PIM resource for you, but it's been my experience that TB!'s MAPI support--which provides the functional connection between the mail client and the PIM--does not work very well. I've tried it with the same results with a few different programs. The best I could get was to use Lotus Organizer and to periodically transfer Org's contacts into the TB! address book (unless they were in the AB, they didn't populate a mail message correctly). Frankly, it's a far cry from the great interoperability that, say, Eudora has with other programs (including Lotus Organizer, which can even feed groups to Eudora). On the other hand, TB! is so much the superior mail client that I've put up with inconveniences like that in order to use it as the mailer. -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Application error when clicking on a particular help topic
Hi Pranav, On 25 September 2003 at 05:24:50GMT +0100 (which was 05:20 where I live) Pranav Lal sent an E-Mail on the subject of Application error when clicking on a particular help topic: PL Hi all, PL I am running a demo version of TheBat. PL When I click on the topic PL Sorting Office - general information PL I get the following error PL Main Window Title: winhlp32.exe - Application Error PL The instruction at 0x010062c1 referenced memory at 0x039be000. The memory PL could not be read. PL Click on OK to terminate the program PL Click on CANCEL to debug the program PL OK Cancel I don't get this when searching to the Help section you describe. Have you tried re-installing the program? The page that is displayed contains a graphic of the Sorting Office with links to information about filter setup. -- Regards, Simon Fincham Using The Bat: Version 2.00.6 on Windows XP Pro SP1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello! A * added X-MyGate-MID for filtering crossposted messages PF Is this related to an MSID token of any sort? You can correctly filter crossposted messages with it. It shows which gruop message was downloaded from. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
