Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB
Hello tbudlers, I thought I'd give this another try. Saturday, May 8, 2004, 12:36:41 PM, I wrote: I've noticed that when I update AVG's virus definitions (6.0 free version), that the version number showing in TB (options|preferences|anti-virus) has not updated to the latest version. I've always closed and restarted TB. Is it really necessary to do that to get the anti-virus plugin updated? To put it differently: I'm sure many of you use TB with an anti-virus plug in. Do you need to close and restart TB after updating the virus definitions? It used to be that AVG would warn me that TB was running (with the plug in) when I would update it and that I should restart TB. That hasn't happened for some months now (after an update). Does anyone know if that is still necessary generally, and for AVG in particular? -- Best regards, Lee Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition
Hello Folks, I'm just wondering whether or not Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition has any plug-in to be used with THE BAT!? -- Sincerely, Mamuka Khantadze Finance Administration Director Healthy Women in Georgia Program (http://healthywomen.ge) John Snow (JSI) Research Training Institute, Inc. (http://jsi.com) 25 Gogebashvili street, 4600, Kutaisi, Georgia Tel./Fax: +995-331 45363. 45364, 45717 Mobile: +995-99 929297, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] System: Windows XP,2600, 5, 1 The Bat!: 2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB
Hey! It used to be that AVG would warn me that TB was running (with the plug in) when I would update it and that I should restart TB. That's what mine does from time to time. I think it only happens when the plug-in is updated. You can configure AVG to change the files at the next restart, so you don't need to restart TB. -- Regards, Raymund -- NEU : GMX Internet.FreeDSL Ab sofort DSL-Tarif ohne Grundgebühr: http://www.gmx.net/dsl Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB
Hallo Lee, On Tue, 18 May 2004 23:14:06 -0700GMT (19-5-04, 8:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Gibbon To put it differently: I'm sure many of you use TB with an anti-virus Gibbon plug in. Do you need to close and restart TB after updating the virus Gibbon definitions? It used to be that AVG would warn me that TB was running TB's always running here, but I can't remember any instance of AVG telling me TB had to be closed because of the plug-in. What it does sometimes is telling me the computer has to be rebooted. BTW My mail server also uses a plug-in for AVG and I'm running W98 and AVG7, I don't know how relevant that might be. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition
Hallo Ian, On Wed, 19 May 2004 17:30:47 +1000GMT (19-5-04, 9:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MK I'm just wondering whether or not Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition MK has any plug-in to be used with THE BAT!? IAW It should be able to be set to automatically check inbound e-mail for IAW viruses. IAW What advantages (if any) are there for having it as a plug-in? Imagine this. TB's downloading a message, the virus scanner finds it's a virus and deletes it. TB thinks the connection's gone bad, disconnects and tries again. And again and again. This isn't imaginary. The list archive is full of examples of this. What you didn't mention is the checking of outbound mail. NAV does that too, as do the various plug-ins for TB. TB sends a message on a dial-up connection. NAV checks it. TB has gotten rid of the message and disconnects. NAV comes with an error message: Message not sent. Those are the problems you can easily avoid with plug-ins. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Just-In-Time Spell Checker
Hi All, I'm brand new to this list and so, please excuse me if I start asking questions which you have discussed before. First one up is why does the Just-In-Time spell checker only work if I use the Plain Text (MicroEd) message editor? If I use another editor, e.g. the Plain Text (Windows) option, the option for 'Automatic Checking Ctrl+F4' is no longer available. Any ideas why this is so? -- Best regards, John Cunnane -- Using 2.10.03 on Windows 2000 SP4 -- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Navigation Frustration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M I'll try to make some test tonight. Did you discover anything? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.5.3 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQKsme9ttnLhkydF1EQJ37QCfT1A+2aGsp9Dr48d0/em9sJCvnSEAn2f8 ROaGny9yGE+m9/ag7YhlCMo5 =wuMY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.com See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Just-In-Time Spell Checker
John Cunnane, [JC] wrote: JC I'm brand new to this list and so, please excuse me if I start asking JC questions which you have discussed before. JC First one up is why does the Just-In-Time spell checker only work if I JC use the Plain Text (MicroEd) message editor? If I use another editor, JC e.g. the Plain Text (Windows) option, the option for 'Automatic JC Checking Ctrl+F4' is no longer available. Any ideas why this is so? It's just a known limitation at this time and we're awaiting the fixing of it. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgphR70AR6nPZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! V2.10.01 and KAV plug-in.
Hi all, I'm currently using The Bat! V2.10.01 and am experiencing problems with the KAV plug-in side of things. If you look at this thread over at the KAV forums, you will see my concerns: http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=40ab4bdc2467;act=ST;f=1;t=316;st=20 I have the situation where there doesn't appear to be a valid database of AV definitions and therefore, the mail isn't being scanned with anything!? Is anyone currently using a KAV plug-in for TB! that is fully working? FYI - I'm at work now, hence the use of Thunderbird and more functional IMAP :-) -- Thanks, Chris. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A challenge/response to TBUDL identity
Just a short response, since I am in hurry now (these days)... ***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Wed, 19 May 2004, at 03:28:31 +0200, @ @ when MAU wrote: I cannot see the way how to implement that in selective download filter. Is it possible at all? As far as I know all such messages have a From address similar to this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. So, you can try a Selective Download filter for: Yes, thanks. Now we already have a more steadfast pattern. It's enough to put a Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will work just fine. For the lazy ones :) : BeginFilter Name: riskfreemail Active: 1 Source: \\blueness\Inbox Target: \\blueness\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: fkoDetectHeader AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: DelAddrItems: HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Just replace blueness with the appropriate account name. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GoldMine and The Bat! Solution needed....
Hi, I'm looking for anyone who knows of, has, or would like to integrate The Bat! with Goldmine CRM software. Goldmine integrates well with MS Outlook, but I steer most of my clients away from Outlook, and many of them simply use the goldmine MUA - which sucks. A superior solution would be to use The Bat! with Goldmine, but we need to be able to integrate all of the messages with Goldmine. Any suggestions? Or, has anyone done this? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated :) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A challenge/response to TBUDL identity
On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 9:18 PM, you wrote: MAU I have blocked all mail from RiskFreeMail at my server, it just rejects MAU the connection :)) MDP Nice idea - I'm going there right now! I just added it to K9's blacklist.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0421-1 (19.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:54 PM, you wrote: LG Right now the moderators are bidding, arguing, punching and slapping LG to see who will get to delete that subscriber with extreme prejudice. hey, wait, don't we get a vote???BG just walk softly and carry a big trout! LG I only had one dissenting voice among you all who seemed to think our LG attempts at making this list better was an inconvenience. probably another C/R person... and thanks to you guys for talking the time to work it all out, congrats! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0421-1 (19.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GoldMine and The Bat! Solution needed....
Bradley D. Thornton, [BDT] wrote: I had a look at Goldmine, an interesting super PIM. They seem to be all about efficient communication/dealing with customers and hence making them more happy and more likely to remain your customers. :) BDT I'm looking for anyone who knows of, has, or would like to BDT integrate The Bat! with Goldmine CRM software. Goldmine BDT integrates well with MS Outlook, but I steer most of my clients BDT away from Outlook, and many of them simply use the goldmine MUA - BDT which sucks. How is the Outlook integration provided. Is it that GoldMine offers built-in integrating capabilities with Outlook, or does it provide a plugin/extension type API that allows this and there's an Outlook extension available? IOW's, from what I'm seeing, I very much doubt that the type of integration you're asking for would be possible in the generic sense, but would have to be developed either from the GoldMine or client developer side, depending on what facility is provided to get it done. BDT A superior solution would be to use The Bat! with Goldmine, but we need to BDT be able to integrate all of the messages with Goldmine. BDT Any suggestions? Or, has anyone done this? Have you written Goldmine support or looked at the support pages to see what they have to say about using other e-mail clients with GoldMine? -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpYf60vExFmP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GoldMine and The Bat! Solution needed....
Hello Bradley, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:57, you wrote: BDT I'm looking for anyone who knows of, has, or would like to integrate The BDT Bat! with Goldmine CRM software. Goldmine integrates well with MS Outlook, BDT but I steer most of my clients away from Outlook, and many of them simply BDT use the goldmine MUA - which sucks. BDT A superior solution would be to use The Bat! with Goldmine, but we need to BDT be able to integrate all of the messages with Goldmine. I trod this path last year and was told that they have no plans to support anything other than OL. It didn't seem to me that this was something that was likely to change... Expect plenty of follow-up calls though - they obviously use their own product! -- Nick Using TheBat!: v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backup script
On 5/19/04, at 8:52 AM, Allie Martin sent the following: Allie AM Many get by without the 'fancy' backing up that you do because they AM don't have the same backup requirements as you do. A couple of those AM batch scripts will therefore work just fine and will not amount to a AM headache. Take my wife for example. I just backup TB! and her AM Documents directory daily to a 750MB zip. Do I need Second Copy for AM that. NO! A single batch script, with a few lines of text run with the AM system scheduler works just fine, thanks. :) It's all a matter of AM needs. What's fine for one, is a hassle for the other. AM I think I'm finished here since this is becoming unproductive. I am in agreement with you as to what and what not to backup, and the fact that this thread is becoming unproductive. However may I trouble you for more direct information on the batch scripts that you use and how to implement them. I just happen to have a JumpDrive that would be capable of holding the backup information that I need. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas. Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
On 5/19/04, at 8:38 AM, Leif Gregory sent the following: LG I only had one dissenting voice among you all who seemed to think our LG attempts at making this list better was an inconvenience. LG Thanks to all the rest of you who put up with the probes. I think it is great to be on a list where the moderator cares enough to take the steps to remove something like this. Thanks again and no problem from here with the probes. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A challenge/response to TBUDL identity
Hello Paul, On Wed, 19 May 2004 08:49:05 -0400 GMT (19/05/2004, 19:49 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC I just added it to K9's blacklist.. It's on GMX' blacklist by default. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Avoid cliches like the plague (They're old hat.) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Navigation Frustration
Hello Stuart, M I'll try to make some test tonight. Did you discover anything? I said 'tonight and it is only 4 pm here ;-) No, I haven't done any test at all, just been too busy. Sorry. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Jimmie, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 7:40:49 AM, you wrote: Jimmie I think it is great to be on a list where the moderator cares Jimmie enough to take the steps to remove something like this. Thanks Jimmie again and no problem from here with the probes. As Bartles and James would say, Thanks for your support. grin Actually, the dissenting voice and I had some follow up e-mail and it turned out to be a misunderstanding as he hadn't been following the thread on the probes. Alls well... -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Allie, Does that really matter especially since you're not really aware of just what others here may or may not need to backup? This seems to be the crux of the misunderstanding. The discussion has been about backing up TB! and nothing else. Yes, that is right. But someone was asking for a way to run a program before or after running the backup and I initially just pointed out that it was easy to do with Second Copy 2000. I think I'm finished here since this is becoming unproductive. AOL Me too. /AOL -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Leif, I liken it to people who post to lists with the Reading Confirmation Flag set. Nope. I never ask for Reading Confirmation anywhere and I got quite a few mails from RiskFreeMail.com, I am not sure if it was every time I posted to the list though. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello MAU, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 8:27:01 AM, you wrote: MAU Nope. I never ask for Reading Confirmation anywhere and I got MAU quite a few mails from RiskFreeMail.com, I am not sure if it was MAU every time I posted to the list though. Errr. No, I meant I was making an analogy in terms of being something very irritating. On a couple other lists I'm on, some people post with reading confirmations set, and it's irritating like a bad C/R config! grin -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hallo Leif, -- Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2004, 02:54:49: We have discovered the true address for the user who subscribed with an improperly configured C/R system. Right now the moderators are bidding, arguing, punching and slapping to see who will get to delete that subscriber with extreme prejudice. I must confess honestly I have no clue what this was all about - never mind. Seems you solved the problem. I only had one dissenting voice among you all who seemed to think our attempts at making this list better was an inconvenience. It was an inconvenience also for me as I got around 6-8 such messages. At the End I really thought it was Spam so have to move it back to 'normal'. Leif, but this inconvenience was for a good cause to keep this ML up and running as it was since I joined in. Thanks to all the rest of you who put up with the probes. I like to take the opportunity to thank you and all the mods for all the work your investing here so as we can enjoy some moments of easy going in a well cultivated environment. What a contrast to the rest of the World of greed, hate and war. -- liebe Grüsse Eddie Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Opening url with non-default browser
Hallo Coyle306, -- Dienstag, 18. Mai 2004, 21:26:35: Sure, I hide all the illegal stuff. I let 'em drive my car. My computer, too, is just a dumb machine that's supposed to make my life easier. I have to come in here. May I repeat: 'a dumb machine makes your life easier'! Question: how dumb is your life? *gg* Sorry - cnr ; -- liebe Grüsse Eddie Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Opening url with non-default browser
Hallo Julian, -- Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2004, 00:34:50: I'll have to agree with you. Now if The Bat! had a built-in browser... ...we could call it Outlook! I would call it 'LookOut'! -- liebe Grüsse Eddie Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Jimmie, I am in agreement with you as to what and what not to backup, and the fact that this thread is becoming unproductive. However may I trouble you for more direct information on the batch scripts that you use and how to implement them. I just happen to have a JumpDrive that would be capable of holding the backup information that I need. What you and Allie find unproductive may be productive for others, just like discussing about batch scripts. They should actually be considered OT and discussed in TBOT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary, On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:49:11 -0500 (11:49 PM here), Mary Bull [MB] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MB It would have been more than annoyance for me, if the mail from MB RiskFreeMail had arrived in my Inbox before I read about the MB problem in Marck's first post about it. Someone was extolling the virtues of RiskFreeMail awhile back and I took a look. Afterward I had received a couple of these C/R messages while attempting to contact some subscribers. Because of the background I wasn't caught off guard. MB The wording would have made me think tbudl's moderators had put me MB on hold. Depending on whether that caught me in a brave or a MB cowardly mood, I might have spent a sleepless night before finally MB asking the moderators what I had done wrong, to have my post MB regarded as potential junk. I wouldn't fret about that Mary. You post often enough here and the moderators would more than likely contact you in a more friendly fashion if had done something unwittingly against policy. MB Forewarned, I put the horrid thing in its own junk folder MB temporarily, as I watched the developments here, and eventually I MB had the pleasure of seeing from Leif that everything has turned MB out well and the problem is taken care of. After reading this thread I can begin to appreciate how undesirable these C/R systems can be. While spam is definitely annoying, with BayesIT or the many other solutions that work with The Bat!, C/R simply isn't necessary. In this case, the solution seems worse than the problem. Oh, by the way, Happy Belated Birthday!!! - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.11 Beta/6 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAq35rvZSrVDqOXK0RAhYMAKCpT199SiiFRFWFnKObpaag4cOldACfTtSJ GOomdPbC/M5R/Mid4K70x4k= =YdmV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing multiple identities
MAU wrote: Hello gmenini, Now I successfully regenerated my environment using a 'simple' (restricted permissions account) but cannot find the way to create and admninistrative account or even another simple account for my brother. I don't think you can. What I am going to suggest may work but I have not tested it. 1.- Exit TB if it is running. 2.- I assume you have not changed the default directory TB uses for its message base (Program Files/The Bat!/Mail). If so,with Windows Explorer, browse to Program Files/The Bat!/Mail and copy the whole Mail directory to a Temp folder. 3.- Uninstall The Bat and make sure the Mail directory is empty. I not, delete it. 4.- Install TB from scratch and, this time, remember to create an account with Admin rights. 5.- Finally, once you are satisfied (and sure you have admin rights) use Tools/Import Messages/From The Bat! Messge Base (.TTB-files) and import every MESSAGES.TTB files you can find in the Mail folder tree that you copied to your Temp directory. I think that should do it but, as I have said, I haven't tried it. Great !!! It worked!! I had to do some tweaking but now I have two normal accounts. thanks everyone :) -- Gabriel Menini Soporte IT Proyecto Sistema Acuífero Guaraní http://www.sg-guarani.org/ Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM Filtering Problems
Brien King wrote: TBUDL, I'm using The Bat! Version 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The Spam Filtering does not appear to be working on TheBat! It is not catching ANY SPAM at all. Well, this isn't helpful, but FWIW I have the same problem. Even setting the score to 5 didn't help. I use IMAP, and I've come to assume that Bayesit doesn't work on IMAP connections. But maybe the problem lies elsewhere. -- Sean H. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM Filtering Problems
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 9:07:05 AM, you wrote: Brien King wrote: TBUDL, I'm using The Bat! Version 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The Spam Filtering does not appear to be working on TheBat! It is not catching ANY SPAM at all. Well, this isn't helpful, but FWIW I have the same problem. Even setting the score to 5 didn't help. I use IMAP, and I've come to assume that Bayesit doesn't work on IMAP connections. But maybe the problem lies elsewhere. Sean, If I get it to work, I'll let you know what I did. -- Brien King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Arcade Restoration Workshop @ http://www.arcaderestoration.com Home of Cart Commander, the Ultimate Cartridge Cataloging Utility! Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Kevin! On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 10:33 AM, you wrote, in part: KC After reading this thread I can begin to appreciate how undesirable KC these C/R systems can be. While spam is definitely annoying, with KC BayesIT or the many other solutions that work with The Bat!, C/R KC simply isn't necessary. In this case, the solution seems worse than KC the problem. Agreed. Well, the moderators solved the solution! :) KC Oh, by the way, Happy Belated Birthday!!! Thanks. :) I'm packing all these thoughtful greetings up now and moving on. Gorgeous weather outdoors here, and fine reading on all the TB! lists. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Greg, Well it all comes down to an individual's needs. Geez have I heard that before. :-) For me running a BAT file for an incremental backup on shut down of TB works great. Of course, you are right. Just like many people can get along with OE (which is free) instead of TB. I'd bet a beer or too that many TB users, for their needs, could actually get along with OE. Or maybe not, I'm not sure if OE has macros to tell what time it is where I live. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing multiple identities
Hello Gabriel, Great !!! It worked!! Glad to hear that it worked. But as the 'oldies' in this list know, that means that you owe me a beer. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Mary, Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 7:18:48 PM, you wrote: Mary I was 100 per cent *for* what you were doing. I hope my small Mary joke about finding my first two probes inedible and putting them Mary in the trash wasn't taken the wrong way!! grin Thanks Tril... If we're not careful, people will begin to think we pay you to say nice things about us! grin -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Eddie, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 7:50:07 AM, you wrote: Eddie It was an inconvenience also for me as I got around 6-8 such Eddie messages. At the End I really thought it was Spam so have to Eddie move it back to 'normal'. Leif, but this inconvenience was for Eddie a good cause to keep this ML up and running as it was since I Eddie joined in. Marck and I discussed this a bit (albeit from a different angle), so if we have to do something similar to this in the future, we'll use our real moderators address instead of the one I created for the probe. Eddie I like to take the opportunity to thank you and all the mods Eddie for all the work your investing here so as we can enjoy some Eddie moments of easy going in a well cultivated environment. What a Eddie contrast to the rest of the World of greed, hate and war. That's what we live for! grin -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Leif! On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:15 PM, you wrote: Mary I was 100 per cent *for* what you were doing. LG grin Thanks Tril... If we're not careful, people will begin to think LG we pay you to say nice things about us! grin If we were on tbot, I would promise, at this point, not to tell them how much. :) Shutting up now--I've already taken too much bandwith with peripheral issues lately. 42. grin -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Highlight emails and send a quick note to all
I don't suppose I can do this without setting up a filter can I: Open folder of emails, highlight some or all, compose a quick email note, send it to all as if individually. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat 2.10.03 with POPFile 0.21.1 on XP Pro v2002 SP1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: SPAM Filtering Problems)
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 1:08:21 PM, Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LG Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not LG just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have LG instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Brien. Getting an awful lot of these moderator's top posting / improper sig notes lately. Can they be sent to individuals rather than the whole list? jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration question
Hello Marck, Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:34:49 PM, you wrote: MDP Dear Nick, MDP @18-May-2004, 20:30 -0400 (19-May 01:30 UK time) Nick OHare [NO] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NO The only other thing I can think may be complicating this is that I NO downloaded and set up the Bat! v. 1.62 on his machine and he bought a NO license for v.2 MDP It is the only thing. v1 and v2 keys are *not* interchangeable. You MDP may not use a v1 key for v2 or vice versa. You or your friend will MDP have to grab a v2 to go with that v2 key. Oh yes, and v2 keys no MDP longer use passwords. Thank you for your reply. Is there any chance of still getting a v1.62 registration? The reason I opted for v1.63 for him is that I'm the one who is going to support him and I don't want him using a different version than me. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Highlight emails and send a quick note to all
Hello Marten, On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:02:50 +0100 GMT (20/05/2004, 01:02 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG I don't suppose I can do this without setting up a filter can I: [...] No, that doesn't seem possible. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nennen Sie ein anderes Gericht als das Bundesverfassungsgericht: Erbsengericht Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello MAU, On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:04:37 +0200 GMT (20/05/2004, 00:04 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Of course, you are right. Just like many people can get along with OE M (which is free) instead of TB. OE isn't free. You pay for it when you buy Windows, whether you use OE or not. M I'd bet a beer or too that many TB users, for their needs, could M actually get along with OE. Well, I couldn't. I'm so used to TB's filtering and folder structure and general layout, that I even lost my way in Eudora a few months ago. And I used Eudora for 2 years, but never OE. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: SPAM Filtering Problems)
Hello jwayne, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:14:05 PM, you wrote: jwayne Can they be sent to individuals rather than the whole list? And it appears you've ignored every one dealing with the sigs. See below: jwayne jon jwayne -- jwayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] jwayne jwayne Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: jwayne http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default message selection in message list?
Hello, I have my messages sorted by thread, in descending date order i.e. the most recent ones are at the top. I normally have several parked messages in some folders. According to the above sort order, the parked messages, being relatively old, appear at the bottom of the list. The parked messages are all marked as read. In most cases, when I click on a folder in the folder list tree, then the initial message selected in the message list view is the topmost *parked* message. Can this behaviour be changed? I would rather have the selected message to be the oldest *unread* message. According to the sort order that I use, this would ordinarily be an *unparked* message at the bottom of the message list. -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration question
Dear Nick, @19-May-2004, 14:24 -0400 (19-May 19:24 UK time) Nick OHare [NO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP ... v1 and v2 keys are *not* interchangeable. You may not use MDP a v1 key for v2 or vice versa. You or your friend will have to MDP grab a v2 to go with that v2 key. Oh yes, and v2 keys no MDP longer use passwords. NO Thank you for your reply. NO Is there any chance of still getting a v1.62 registration? I don't think so. NO The reason I opted for v1.63 for him is that I'm the one who is NO going to support him and I don't want him using a different NO version than me. Suggestion: Why not take the upgrade? There are a number of very good reasons to made the switch to v2 and no good reason to stay with v1. Countless bugs are fixed. (okay, countless new bugs have been added in new features too - g). Some stunning new functionality has made it into v2. It really is worth the upgrade fee - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/upgrade_en.php. And, no, I don't get a cut. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpelHNQVViN8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Jimmie, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 8:40:49 AM, Jimmie Toney wrote: JT I think it is great to be on a list where the moderator cares enough JT to take the steps to remove something like this. Thanks again and no JT problem from here with the probes. Agreed. BTW I like that tagline. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello MAU, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:04:37 PM, MAU wrote: Well it all comes down to an individual's needs. Geez have I heard that before. :-) For me running a BAT file for an incremental backup on shut down of TB works great. M Of course, you are right. Just like many people can get along with OE M (which is free) instead of TB. I'd bet a beer or too that many TB users, M for their needs, could actually get along with OE. I have to use OE at work. I really miss TB's filtering capability coupled with macros. I most definitely could use TB's macro capabilities at work, but you know you have to use the what is provided. Not much choice. M Or maybe not, I'm not sure if OE has macros to tell what time it is M where I live. ;-) Not me! :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello MAU, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 10:24:29 AM, MAU wrote: I am in agreement with you as to what and what not to backup, and the fact that this thread is becoming unproductive. However may I trouble you for more direct information on the batch scripts that you use and how to implement them. I just happen to have a JumpDrive that would be capable of holding the backup information that I need. M What you and Allie find unproductive may be productive for others, just M like discussing about batch scripts. They should actually be considered M OT and discussed in TBOT. Isn't this really a function of opinions which are a function of needs? :-) Sounds like an old broken record, but true! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (Saying for the day: Like a former boss once said opinions are like a**h^les, everyone's got one.) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing multiple identities
Hello Gabriel, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 11:03:09 AM, Gabriel Menini wrote: 3.- Uninstall The Bat and make sure the Mail directory is empty. I not, delete it. 4.- Install TB from scratch and, this time, remember to create an account with Admin rights. ... snip GM Great !!! GM It worked!! IIRC newer versions of TB install the mail directory in a sub-directory of the user's somewhere under C:\Documents and Settings when it is a clean install. Don't recall exact directory. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Without Time, everything would happen at once. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Opening url with non-default browser
Hi Martin, Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 12:48:36 PM, you wrote: C It would be nice if The Bat let you select a browser. MW Please no, that's an OS feature... I don't know of any OS that allows you to select a different browser for url links depending on the email client that's running. Certainly not Windows -- of course Windows is happy for you to select Internet Explorer for everything :-) -- Wayne Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB
Hello Roelof, Thanks for the responses, Roelof and Raymund. Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:52:17 AM, you wrote: RO TB's always running here, but I can't remember any instance of AVG RO telling me TB had to be closed because of the plug-in. What it does RO sometimes is telling me the computer has to be rebooted. My main concern is that the version number for the AVG plug in does not get updated when I install a new virus definition file (the main AVG application does show a new version number). I don't know if the AVG plug in is actually updated (without restarting TB). I also don't know if this is an AVG plug in issue (could be just a bug in updating version number? or not updating version at all?) or a more general TB plug in architecture issue. -- Best regards, Lee Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail download + new line problems
Hi Britt, Monday, May 17, 2004, 3:01:02 PM, you wrote: BH Unfortunately, nobody seems to have any solution to my major BH problem: that The Bat is busy working with something for ca 15 BH minutes every morning before it downloads my mails. As I said, That reminds of a similar problem I had when I first started using The Bat. I ran across a suggestion to delete the bat*.tmp files from my temp directory. There turned out to be thousands of them. As soon as I did this all was well. You might try this. In my case I later discovered that the import from Pegasus had created those thousands of .tmp files and not cleaned them up. -- Wayne Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
