messages
Dear Sirs, Please stop all the received messages. I receive so many messages How can I do for stop this. Thanks -- Ariane Furer Rue de la Colombière 7 1260 Nyon 079 800 94 89 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
messages
Dear Sirs, Please stop all the messages. I received to much messages, I dont want it. Thanks -- Ariane Furer Rue de la Colombière 7 1260 Nyon 079 800 94 89 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages
On 8/9/06, Ariane Furer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sirs, Please stop all the messages. I received to much messages, I dont want it. You subscribed yourself to a mailing list. If you don't want to be on the list, please unsubscribe yourself by going to this link: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl and looking for the text near the bottom of the page that says To unsubscribe from TBUDL... -- Dave Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages
Hi Ariane, on Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:49:01 +0200GMT (09.08.2006, 13:49 +0200GMT here), Ariane Furer wrote: AF Please stop all the messages. I received to much messages, I dont want it. As you are using The Bat! it's easy: go to the Specials menu, select Mailinglist » Unsubscribe and send the resulting message. -- Cheers Peter Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. Frank Zappa Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages
Dear Ariane, @9-Aug-2006, 13:44 +0200 (09-Aug 12:44 here) Ariane Furer [AF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas: AF Please stop all the received messages. Please stop writing Off-Topic messages to the list. I have already told you what is going on. Read the welcome message you got when you signed up. It contains all the information you need. Alternatively, click on the link at the bottom of every message that comes from this mailing list: ,--/ List message footer \-- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html `--\ End /-- The Using TBUDL web page tells you how to join and, more importantly for you, how to leave, -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpUezjxQ0Qvg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
Hello Andrew, On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AD I logged a ticket with Ritlabs support. Short version: Synchronise is AD depricated, doesn't work, will be replaced at some unknown date with AD something better. There is no way of sync'ing between TB Pro and AD Voyager except for a backup/restore between the two. Well that's interesting to know and thanks for that. For me I just use Voyager on a rare basis, when I go back to the UK to see my Dad. I'll just have to back up before I go and then, as I'm normally only away for a week at the most, I have Voyager set to leave all messages on the server so that I can instantly update the main machine when I get home. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06
Mary Bull wrote: One more idea: post the problem on TBBETA. There are many more technically able people there, and the RitLabs team reads there more often than it does on TBUDL. OTFE was developed through a beta series, so it's not too far off-topic, I think, to post about its deficiencies on TBBETA. Thanks for that suggestion, Mary. I thought about doing that, but haven't done so because it doesn't seem to me that this is really a beta issue. I know that Marck, Roelof and Leif monitor this list, so I'll ask now if any of you moderators agree that it would be ok to post this problem on the beta list. I've been a reader there for a long time, though I don't participate in the beta testing. My own belief is that my question is more appropriate to *this* list, and I am hopeful that the additional information I posted in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] can lead to a resolution. (I hope that mid: reference works; I made it by hand, so I'm not confident that it will.) If this problem can be resolved, then having the resolution on this list would work to the long-term benefit of any future users who faced a similar difficulty if they searched the archives. I think I'll give folks a little more time to digest that previous message and perhaps come up with a recommendation. Go here to join the list, if you haven't already: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Thank you, though, for the link. If appropriate, I'll use it later. -- Regards, Perry Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06
Dear Perry, @09-Aug-2006, 10:44 -0400 (09-Aug 15:44 here) Perry Nelson [P] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip P issue. I know that Marck, Roelof and Leif monitor this list, so I'll P ask now if any of you moderators agree that it would be ok to post this P problem on the beta list. See my other reply. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgprAaJlXbXHk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06
Dear Perry, @08-Aug-2006, 21:47 -0400 (09-Aug 02:47 here) Perry Nelson [P] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip P that the message base folder I mentioned earlier, The Bat! Pwd, is still P there in all its glory. And under C:\Program Files\ there are *two* P The Bat! folders, one of them has the name The Bat!(2). ... snip P I'm sure all of that is more than you wanted to know, but maybe it will P offer some clues.. I'd make sure that really *everything* is gone after the uninstall (by manually checking the program files directory and your user profile directory where the messagebases are) and try again with a fresh install then. P As you can see, even though I specified NOT to retain any files, a whole P lot is left. ... snip I suggest that from this uninstalled state, you use windows explorer to manually remove all traces. Clearly these folders contain locked and corrupt files that, as soon as they are accessed, bring TB to its knees. The value of posting this situation in TBBETA is that a BugTraq report can perhaps be instigated to cover the fact that Remove all files simply does not do the job. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp74i5SL6a0E.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I suggest that from this uninstalled state, you use windows explorer to manually remove all traces. Clearly these folders contain locked and corrupt files that, as soon as they are accessed, bring TB to its knees. Okay, I'll give that a shot. I'm going to move the folder containing the unencrypted files (from before I began using the Pro version) to a different partition however, because I don't want to risk losing access to the messages of significance historically that are contained in it. If after removing the folder The Bat! Pwd and trying to install, I continue to get the AVs, I'll burn that folder to CD (of unencrypted files) and delete it from the other partition and then try again. I'll report the results later this morning. The value of posting this situation in TBBETA is that a BugTraq report can perhaps be instigated to cover the fact that Remove all files simply does not do the job. Let's see what outcome I get from following your instructions and whether I can get the program reinstalled successfully. Then if I can, I'll post my experience on the beta list. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Regards, Perry Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!
Hello Cricket everyone else, on 08-Aug-2006 at 16:03 you (Cricket) wrote: RuSpy.A is a Trojan that obtains the usernames and passwords from certain programs, such as ICQ, Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Outlook, and The Bat!, among others. The harvested information is then sent to its author in an email message. There's a vital part of information missing IMHO: RuSpy.A does not spread automatically using its own means. It needs an attacking user's intervention in order to reach the affected computer. The means of transmission used include, among others, floppy disks, CD-ROMs, email messages with attached files, Internet downloads, FTP, IRC channels, peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing networks, etc. So, you have to execute the trojan somehow. Given that brain.exe (or alternatively, a fully updated virus scanner) is in use, I find these trojans a neglectible risk. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Burning Bridges by Crimson Glory (from the 1988 album Transcendence) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06
Hello Marck D Pearlstone everyone else, on 09-Aug-2006 at 16:53 you (Marck D Pearlstone) wrote: I suggest that from this uninstalled state, you use windows explorer to manually remove all traces. Clearly these folders contain locked and corrupt files that, as soon as they are accessed, bring TB to its knees. I second that suggestion. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Transcendence by Crimson Glory (from the 1988 album Transcendence) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
All's well that ends well
Hi TBUDL, After deleting all the folders associated with TB! manually, I was able to reinstall the program without incident. I restored from backup and my copy is once again registered. Thanks for all your help. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry! On Wednesday, August 09, 2006, 11:14 AM, you wrote: After deleting all the folders associated with TB! manually, I was able to reinstall the program without incident. I restored from backup and my copy is once again registered. Thanks for all your help. Bravo, Perry! I know that getting your registered copy up and running was your main goal. Did restoring from backup allow you to access your previously OTFE encrypted messages? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry Nelson everyone else, on 09-Aug-2006 at 18:14 you (Perry Nelson) wrote: After deleting all the folders associated with TB! manually, I was able to reinstall the program without incident. I restored from backup and my copy is once again registered. Thanks for all your help. Have you kept your old messagebase files? You could try to replace the backup copies one by one (while TB is not running) to maybe find the corrupted message base. In addition, you'd get back the messages between the crash and your last backup. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Hoodoo / Voodoo Medicine Man by Aerosmith (from the 1989 album Pump) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!
On Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 18:09:23, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: So, you have to execute the trojan somehow. Given that brain.exe (or alternatively, a fully updated virus scanner) is in use, I find these trojans a neglectible risk. Hey, have you seen that program that shows dancing pigs? I attached it so you just need to click it to see them, too! -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ Opportunity always knocks at the least appropriate moment. -- Law of Adult Opportunity [Note to moderators: the attached program just displays a message box] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hi Mary, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 12:23:23 PM, you wrote: MB Did restoring from backup allow you to access your previously OTFE MB encrypted messages? With the exception of the messages received since the date of my backup, yes. Of course, I had to set up the system again as OTFE to do it. Since I don't know of a way to revert from OTFE to an unencrypted installation, it appears that once saved (as OTFE), always saved as some of my Baptist friends would say. Unless my understanding is mistaken about the permanence of such a decision, this, it seems to me, represents a lack of foresight on the part of the designers. Thanks for your help and encouragement. Now my only remaining problem is that each time TB! checks the mail, I'm getting a dialog that says, Unknown CA Certificate. That didn't used to happen with my previous installation. I do recall some discussion of this in the past, but since I wasn't having the problem then, I didn't pay much attention to the resolution, if any, that was given. Because I must click OK for the CC to continue, that makes an automatic check near impossible, or at the least very annoying. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hi Alexander, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 12:28:04 PM, you wrote: ASK Have you kept your old messagebase files? They are still in the recycle bin, so I could go dumpster diving and restore them to a different partition. ASK You could try to replace the backup copies one by one (while TB is ASK not running) to maybe find the corrupted message base. Sounds like a tedious process, but I may consider it. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry! On Wednesday, August 09, 2006, 11:39 AM, you wrote: MB Did restoring from backup allow you to access your previously OTFE MB encrypted messages? With the exception of the messages received since the date of my backup, yes. Ah. Well, at least partial satisfaction. Of course, I had to set up the system again as OTFE to do it. Since I don't know of a way to revert from OTFE to an unencrypted installation, it appears that once saved (as OTFE), always saved as some of my Baptist friends would say. ... God bless us every one, as Tiny Tim would say. :) ... Unless my understanding is mistaken about the permanence of such a decision, this, it seems to me, represents a lack of foresight on the part of the designers. This and the failure to clean out all files automatically by The Bat! when making a fresh install are two reasons I hope you will have time to report these deficiencies in OTFE-installations on TBBETA and make a bugtracker issue report of each one. Although it would be technically OT to the beta list, it's relevant to beta development. The RitLabs team is currently working toward v. 3.82, according to the beta download page. It would be well for them to clean up the faults of OTFE before the next release to the public. Marck has agreed that it would be appropriate to post on TBBETA the failure to remove all files in an Uninstall of a copy of TB! which has OTFE enabled. So, when you have the time, I hope you'll be able to do this much, at least. Thanks for your help and encouragement. Your problem very much engaged my attention! It's been my pleasure to try to help. Now my only remaining problem is that each time TB! checks the mail, I'm getting a dialog that says, Unknown CA Certificate. That didn't used to happen with my previous installation. I do recall some discussion of this in the past, but since I wasn't having the problem then, I didn't pay much attention to the resolution, if any, that was given. Because I must click OK for the CC to continue, that makes an automatic check near impossible, or at the least very annoying. I think it's addressed in the beta series. I'll do a search of the TBBETA archives to jog my memory. If it's fixed in a beta, would you want to run one? V. 3.81.14 is quite stable for me, running two POP3 accounts in a Pro version, with OTFE *not* installed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry! On Wednesday, August 09, 2006, 11:39 AM, you wrote: Now my only remaining problem is that each time TB! checks the mail, I'm getting a dialog that says, Unknown CA Certificate. That didn't used to happen with my previous installation. I do recall some discussion of this in the past, but since I wasn't having the problem then, I didn't pay much attention to the resolution, if any, that was given. Because I must click OK for the CC to continue, that makes an automatic check near impossible, or at the least very annoying. There are some fixes in re CA certificates going on in the beta series. I'm not sure they relate to this particular problem. See TBBETA mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] copy-and-paste quote from beta v. 3.81.12 availability announcement in the message cited above: -- [+] The Bat! now keeps associations between recipient emails and certificates for encryption also for S/MIME Internal Implementation. Previously, this have been done only for signing, not for encryption in S/MIME Internal Implementation. However, in CryptoAPI Implementation, both signing and encryption certificates were associated with emails. -- For what it's worth. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!
Hello Jernej Simončič everyone else, on 09-Aug-2006 at 18:39 you (Jernej Simončič) wrote: So, you have to execute the trojan somehow. Given that brain.exe (or alternatively, a fully updated virus scanner) is in use, I find these trojans a neglectible risk. Hey, have you seen that program that shows dancing pigs? I attached it so you just need to click it to see them, too! :-) Exactly. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: What It Takes by Aerosmith (from the 1989 album Pump) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hi Mary, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 1:16:17 PM, you wrote: MB This and the failure to clean out all files automatically by The Bat! MB when making a fresh install are two reasons I hope you will have time MB to report these deficiencies in OTFE-installations on TBBETA and make MB a bugtracker issue report of each one. MB Marck has agreed that it would be appropriate to post on TBBETA the MB failure to remove all files in an Uninstall of a copy of TB! which has MB OTFE enabled. So, when you have the time, I hope you'll be able to do MB this much, at least. I'll make a report of my misadventures in reinstallation on the TBBETA list. MB I think it's addressed in the beta series. I'll do a search of the MB TBBETA archives to jog my memory. As you'll see, I am now running the beta and the Unknown CA Certificate problem still exits here. MB If it's fixed in a beta, would you want to run one? V. 3.81.14 is MB quite stable for me, running two POP3 accounts in a Pro version, with MB OTFE *not* installed. Aside from that issue with the certificate, it seems to be running okay for me too. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry Nelson everyone else, on 09-Aug-2006 at 18:39 you (Perry Nelson) wrote: Since I don't know of a way to revert from OTFE to an unencrypted installation Its the same as switching an existing plain installation into an OTFE installation (or transfer a TB installation to Voyager). - backup everything - uninstall TB remove all traces of it - install again, select (plain|OTFE) - restore the backup -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The only real food for thought is more thought. -- Peter Ustinov Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry! On Wednesday, August 09, 2006, 12:35 PM, you wrote: MB ... I hope you will have time MB to report these deficiencies in OTFE-installations on TBBETA ... I'll make a report of my misadventures in reinstallation on the TBBETA list. Many thanks. :) MB I think it's addressed [Unknown CA Certificate dialogue problem] MB in the beta series. ... As you'll see, I am now running the beta and the Unknown CA Certificate problem still exits here. I'm sorry. You might want to report this on TBBETA. Either someone else there might then confirm the problem or else post a solution. Aside from that issue with the certificate, it seems to be running okay for me too. Very good to hear!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hi Alexander, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 1:41:27 PM, you wrote: ASK Its the same as switching an existing plain installation into an ASK OTFE installation (or transfer a TB installation to Voyager). ASK - backup everything ASK - uninstall TB remove all traces of it ASK - install again, select (plain|OTFE) ASK - restore the backup Thanks for straightening me out. It was my understanding that you couldn't restore a backup from an encrypted version to an unencrypted version. I think I'll give that a try. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hello Perry, On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:48:29 -0400 GMT (10/08/2006, 00:48 +0700 GMT), Perry Nelson wrote: PN Thanks for straightening me out. It was my understanding that you PN couldn't restore a backup from an encrypted version to an unencrypted PN version. I think I'll give that a try. You can. I think that's a security issue, because if you make regular backups from within TB, these can be restored in plain text, even though the original message base was OTFE-encrypted. But then, I'm not a friend of OTFE. -- Cheers, Thomas. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 5. Interrupted to phone his therapist for advice on answering specific interview questions. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
Hello Andrew, On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:45:28 -0600 GMT (09/08/2006, 08:45 +0700 GMT), Andrew Diederich wrote: AD I logged a ticket with Ritlabs support. Short version: Synchronise is AD depricated, doesn't work, will be replaced at some unknown date with AD something better. There is no way of sync'ing between TB Pro and AD Voyager except for a backup/restore between the two. No, there is no sync. These are two independent email clients. You can run them in parallel on the same computer, or you can run them on different computers. The latter is what Voyager is meant for. For example, I have my private accounts on the Voyager but not on my work computer. That's how I check my private mail in the office (don't want those mails on the office computer). I also have my two major work accounts in Voyager. This is for when I am out of the office and need to check my office mail. AD Another suggestion from support was to leave all the mail on the AD server, and let Voyager and TB just manage it separately. They AD suggested always BCC'ing myself so I'd get a copy of mail I sent, too. That's what I do, with great success. I just came back from a one-day business trip, checked my mail three times during the day. I haven't made a trip without Voyager in my pocket for half a year now. Can I put my thing into your thing? usually makes my friends or business associates look at me with a startled expression, but when they see my right hand holding up my USB stick and my left hand pointing to their computer, they will allow me to. And they are amazed about this piece of software. Today I learned that there is also a Thunderbird Portable which also runs on a USB stick, so I couldn't impress this new acquaintance much. I didn't ask him whether that has a synchronise function, because I don't miss that function. AD Hmm, it'll duplicate sent mail on the sending client. Yes, but I don't need Outgoing filters any more. Only Incoming filters. Kind of makes my earlier wish for one kind of filters obsolete: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Every time a person turns on the television to see the news, he instantly sees what he wants and what concerns him. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hi Thomas, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 2:09:42 PM, you wrote: TF But then, I'm not a friend of OTFE. You're right by the way. (See my reply to myself, just posted.) And for what it's worth, OTFE and I have had a falling out recently too. ;-) -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
Hi Everyone, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 1:48:29 PM, I said to Alexander earlier: ASK Its the same as switching an existing plain installation into an ASK OTFE installation (or transfer a TB installation to Voyager). PN I think I'll give that a try. Here's the update. I un-installed TB! and removed the things it did not remove (as it should have), reinstalled and then restored from backup, but this time as PLAIN rather than OTFE. It worked as you had suggested. I then added back the beta version as well. Furthermore, I am no longer getting the Unknown CA Certificate warning, which pleases me greatly but also puzzles me. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ping Tone
Hello TBUDL, When clicking on the drop down arrow on the Receive New Mail radial button and clicking on Send Check for All, The Bat is giving me a ping tone, but when I click on my two profiles separately to get mail, I do not get this ping tone. Is this normal? -- The Bat! v3.80.06 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 9 Aug 2006, @ @ at 18:39:43 +0200, when Jernej Simončič wrote: So, you have to execute the trojan somehow. Given that brain.exe (or alternatively, a fully updated virus scanner) is in use, I find these trojans a neglectible risk. Hey, have you seen that program that shows dancing pigs? I attached it so you just need to click it to see them, too! | | | The file convolution.dll | | needed to run brain.exe not found. | | Shall I fake this one too? | | | | [YES] [NO] [MAYBE] | | | - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRNo0XLSpHvHEUtv8AQiZlwf9HztnBMTLboAF+EUubNM2BaFl2vWs+FQx D6Qu6Ftjodj6IsOmS5wHjCRjqw06AsXkZ5Dh2ErCkvHYkkownWBBK4K87WARIw6F 9uH3yuronoCe7VcsMLphL/SuOSnoZkLiHQrjl3Sguph4Y/S0V8S/80cCbXzucDbL xzMuQGkOU20bimQbkoBXtTFtGj3xC/fb/FbqIzirdbZSiFUK5qltfDy/00AwnjVC lxL+V0vByKDZeTDSL4Ra7uyif6+A+pmY7DPDFpB6SfhOKzmV0rbE0pI7qqZCmTso KmbHJ/OYqaIszf4MWKcLrSFyy7zHC+12JRbgpTjK7TSSecbhs/qTUg== =y7Sy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ping Tone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 9 Aug 2006, @ @ at 11:47:53 -0700, when Tim Hamm wrote: When clicking on the drop down arrow on the Receive New Mail radial button and clicking on Send Check for All, The Bat is giving me a ping tone, but when I click on my two profiles separately to get mail, I do not get this ping tone. Is this normal? Will be that something unhooked within its insides (or the button is not in mood to be touched). Try F11 instead. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRNo4KbSpHvHEUtv8AQgJbggAgbrEy71qZjjeOjges3I5psNBfHlD5aP7 jZIRhyDw6E1/+G28kwt224Yenyvznq/7X76jG0S6NZCG8ipGu86qk2dh8bkUWree QFmNSqf9eLJgO4qhrQujM0hxZGsy/yoe1JvdpifI+5e31T84+8jF4qkLX/5DFkWR 7tW98OTvWOLhGM6nLo/76AelarmqMxhnSwT9LxrF+CAHYpi3DmdojSVLKimEGxmD cWEOv4pNQ8vYB9y/r0i/93BYe/8sGaeYiKuEZ/DmMgIqQd7jBtzwO0y9gh5LHG9P 7qoaM5k/5oKFQDabXUbdPHEM8cEo2DBm5ihPd0AvxbKj2FKm4yU/yQ== =Qc7V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All's well that ends well
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 10 Aug 2006, @ @ at 01:09:42 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Perry, On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:48:29 -0400 GMT (10/08/2006, 00:48 +0700 GMT), Perry Nelson wrote: PN Thanks for straightening me out. It was my understanding that you PN couldn't restore a backup from an encrypted version to an unencrypted PN version. I think I'll give that a try. You can. I think that's a security issue, because if you make regular backups from within TB, these can be restored in plain text, even though the original message base was OTFE-encrypted. But then, I'm not a friend of OTFE. Nobody should be. Encryption (and decryption too, and even more) is a decently sensitive activity and should be entrusted to dedicated standalone, strong and independent applications. As a brain child/brat, that is a conception, it is simpatico (I myself was warmed to this for a shorter time at the beginning), but using something like that integrated into a program which is constantly in an OTF fixing and with running unfinished components with besides so active beta releases and OTF live testings, is not very mind cuddling idea. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRNo9BrSpHvHEUtv8AQhzbggAgvqtc1lw3H8lFFmW72//6wopojGpZrLD jNOamuanUp44WsMYUgckzpSbQIvAwybUPevPKeTS3jyP725dA9UsmpIxLGHnUoyW hPldtUNTAWBD+a5iGm8a/VlcB/X3KaToBs/4WUG0SeJswY9OaJUkZe1Jte/kB4bn b/nbXTuBKhrTxpvaEsiUocw8kX2QFHRIrC9S/afjYKOrw2iFLsw5y6P1Qrzjo417 VO2RbwqQ7tZbpS0GlDRBuSWL7ylrQbUjj/YD1pkCNMQcZWGBPyWxaw3L8P0+gk5p 65ZBgBddk4rDPUo2xKSUIExlzV8PQPEiiuGzpBf4bfsWkdM3bN1PCA== =PHgI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!
Hello Jernej, Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 10:39:43 AM, you wrote: Hey, have you seen that program that shows dancing pigs? I attached it so you just need to click it to see them, too! I double-clicked on the attached part.txt file and got this: Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Is it one of those stereogram type things? I'm not seeing the pigs. :-( I'd really like to see them. Can you help?!?!? :grin: -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Supercomputer - A computer that can complete an endless loop in under 5 minutes. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!
On Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 22:36:35, Leif Gregory wrote: Is it one of those stereogram type things? I'm not seeing the pigs. :-( I'd really like to see them. Can you help?!?!? You're the list administrator, find out where the executable disappeared! -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ If you mess with something long enough, it'll break. -- Schmidt's Law Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
On Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 1:04:34 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AD Another suggestion from support was to leave all the mail on the AD server, and let Voyager and TB just manage it separately. They AD suggested always BCC'ing myself so I'd get a copy of mail I sent, AD too. But the real answer when you travel or use multiple computers is IMAP. It will collect all your POP mail for you, and you can ease into using the IMAP address. I could never go back to POP again without going stark raving madder. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
On 8/9/06, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, there is no sync. These are two independent email clients. You can run them in parallel on the same computer, or you can run them on different computers. The latter is what Voyager is meant for. Ok, this was not clear to me. For example, I have my private accounts on the Voyager but not on my work computer. That's how I check my private mail in the office (don't want those mails on the office computer). This is a good idea. I may do this, too. I've been using the gmail web interface but have always been frustrated by the lack of S/MIME support. S/MIME is why I started looking at TB in the first place, actually, since Opera does't have S/MIME support. I've already purchased Pro, so own a copy of Voyager. Maybe I take the plunge and move my personal email to Voyager. Worth thinking about. snip Today I learned that there is also a Thunderbird Portable which also runs on a USB stick, so I couldn't impress this new acquaintance much. I didn't ask him whether that has a synchronise function, because I don't miss that function. Thunderbird just didn't turn my crank. I tried it for a while (desktop version), but couldn't get too excited by it. I imagine most people on this least are similar! :) Thanks for the suggestions. -- Andrew Diederich Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
