Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins
Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 12:19:27 AM, you wrote: ACM @ 19:05:47 + [ Tue, 1 Jan 2002], John Rainer [JR] thoughtfully ACM wrote the following: ACM ... JR Re the stuff on Norton and XP below: (related to Norton AV 2002 JR and the loss of the autodelete function for infected mail after JR moving from 2001) ACM I'm a PC-Cillin user, and this new system I got came with NAV 2002 ACM installed.. I've been using it and have so far had one bad experience. ACM I disable the mail checker since I use the system monitor. However, it ACM would appear that it stakes out the temp folder and will alert you of ACM virus or virus-like presence in the temp folder. No problem. However, ACM TB! was in the process of downloading an infected message and as soon ACM as NAV2002 detected it in the temp folder it alerted me but this ACM process somehow prevents TB! from completing the download and deletion ACM from the server. As a result of this, TB! kept attempting the download ACM until I had to manually delete the offending message from the server. ACM This I find annoying. PC-Cillin never did or caused this. This is more or less what I found - 2001 deleted attachments before they were actually received by the mail client by redirecting incoming mail through a local server arrangement. In 2002, what seems to happen is a forced scan of the mail as it is handled by the client, which not only picks up infected mail but also tmp files as they are created. It then says it found two infected files but can only find one of them (as the tmp file has gone), that they cannot be repaired and that after deletion of one file there is still infected mail present, presumably because it can't find the previously infected tmp file. It does go on, though, to complete the mail download - at least, it did for me. None of this can be automated so if you receive a series of badtrans, it gets very tedious. 2001, on the other hand, works fine, fully automatic and adding txt attachments to say what virus was in the deleted attachment. There is a slight drawback from 2002 in that it doesn't scan outging mail, which I can live without anyway. John -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
On 28 Dec 2001, 10:47:54 AM, John Rainer wrote: The email scanner in 2002 works in a very different way to earlier versions and needs no email client configuration. The only automatic function seems to be autorepair, which pops up a dialog on every infected mail (infuriating) as it can't repair it, plus it picks up the tmp file created by the bat, presumably because the mail is intercepted in a different way from 2000/2001. To make things worse, what's left of any infected mail has most of its headers removed. I've heard that 2001 can be got to work in XP, so I might give it a try - that worked fine in Windows 2000. I just received a message with a virus which was detected by NAV 2002. While it didn't give me a choice to delete, the easy option was to hit the quarantine button, which I did. The virus got quarantined, the rest of the mail got collected, and I was able to locate the message which had had the infected attachment. (I sent to the sender asking that I be removed from the resident Outlook Express address book and suggested that the machine be checked for infection. I sent a copy of the message to the postmaster of the ISP in question and to abuse@ that address as well. The message to 'postmaster' bounced because her mailbox was over quota!!) Anyhow, my point is that NAV 2002 seemed to me to have behaved quite adequately. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins
Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 11:24:09 PM, you wrote: DAC On 28 Dec 2001, 10:47:54 AM, John Rainer wrote: The email scanner in 2002 works in a very different way to earlier versions and needs no email client configuration. The only automatic function seems to be autorepair, which pops up a dialog on every infected mail (infuriating) as it can't repair it, plus it picks up the tmp file created by the bat, presumably because the mail is intercepted in a different way from 2000/2001. To make things worse, what's left of any infected mail has most of its headers removed. I've heard that 2001 can be got to work in XP, so I might give it a try - that worked fine in Windows 2000. DAC I just received a message with a virus which was detected by NAV 2002. DAC While it didn't give me a choice to delete, the easy option was to hit DAC the quarantine button, which I did. The virus got quarantined, the DAC rest of the mail got collected, and I was able to locate the message DAC which had had the infected attachment. (I sent to the sender asking DAC that I be removed from the resident Outlook Express address book and DAC suggested that the machine be checked for infection. I sent a copy of DAC the message to the postmaster of the ISP in question and to abuse@ DAC that address as well. The message to 'postmaster' bounced because her DAC mailbox was over quota!!) DAC Anyhow, my point is that NAV 2002 seemed to me to have behaved quite DAC adequately. Fine for you but not for me, especially after using earlier versions. I'm not denying 2002 works - it does, but the way it works is not as convenient for me as in 2000 and 2001. If you opt for quarantine instead of repair, you still have to hit a button to quarantine the mail otherwise your mail download stops, and after the fifth one, this gets a bit tedious and after the twentieth infuriating. I was getting 40 badtrans a day when it first came out and others were getting many more. You then have to look at all the stuff in quarantine and manually delete it. Having used 2000 and 2001, where there is a dialog-free delete option as first choice for infected mail, not a last ditch alternative after going through repair and/or quarantine dialog, this was a step backward, imho. In 2001, infected attachments can be deleted automatically with no intervention by me and mail downloads proceed uninterrupted without me having to be at my desktop to press a button or have other tasks interrupted. All received mail is still present in my inbox, with all mail information there, but those with infected attachments have their attachments replaced by a text file giving details of the virus that was in the deleted file. If you're happy with 2002, fine - I just prefer the functionality in 2001 and for any others that do, it does seem to work in XP ok if certain precautions are taken at installation. John -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Anti-virus plugins
(apologies if this appears twice) Re the stuff on Norton and XP below: (related to Norton AV 2002 and the loss of the autodelete function for infected mail after moving from 2001) I've found that Norton 2001 works fine (so far!) with the Bat in XP if the instructions found from the google search below are followed. Norton were very cagy about it working, citing the Microsoft compatiblity update as untested. in fact, I suspect all the MS update is is a warning flash on installation about the symevent file in 2001 being incompatible, but installing the updated file during the main install seems to work ok. Uninstalling 2002 was a pain, though - the uninstall routine leaves loads of stuff in the registry which I manually cleared out, and a number of dll files. Even then, the new install picked up my registration details from the 2002 install. At least my 90 day oem 2001 copy now has the 365 days of updates of the retail 2002 that was there before! My mail downloads are now fully automatic but I've disabled all the scheduled tasks just in case there is still a problem with Symevent. John Rainer Friday, December 28, 2001, 8:22:47 PM, you wrote: JR Friday, December 28, 2001, 6:45:55 PM, you wrote: S John, your observations of NAV2002 seem to be exactly the same as my S observations. I think the autodelete function is not there, at least S I have not seen the option. Like you, the autorepair does not seem to S work. S I'd be interested to know whether or not you are successful in using S NAV2001 with WinXP. I did try it, but got the not compatible S warnings. Symantec has some information on using it, but was very S hard to find on their web site, and seemed very sketchy. I never S could make it work and from what others say, they couldn't either. JR Sam, JR I found the following info on Google - I don't know if it is reliable JR or not! Put HjWi7.17602$[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with JR quotes into a Google news search. JR There is also a software compatibility update for XP where Norton JR Antivirus 2001 is mentioned - I've contacted Symantec about it and am JR awaiting a response (cue moaning wind and tumbleweed). See JR http://servicenews.symantec.com/cgi-bin/displayArticle.cgi?group=symantec.support.winnt.nortonantivirus2002.generalarticle=25317 JR - I did not post the original article but did follow it up. JR John -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
@ 19:05:47 + [ Tue, 1 Jan 2002], John Rainer [JR] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... JR Re the stuff on Norton and XP below: (related to Norton AV 2002 JR and the loss of the autodelete function for infected mail after JR moving from 2001) I'm a PC-Cillin user, and this new system I got came with NAV 2002 installed.. I've been using it and have so far had one bad experience. I disable the mail checker since I use the system monitor. However, it would appear that it stakes out the temp folder and will alert you of virus or virus-like presence in the temp folder. No problem. However, TB! was in the process of downloading an infected message and as soon as NAV2002 detected it in the temp folder it alerted me but this process somehow prevents TB! from completing the download and deletion from the server. As a result of this, TB! kept attempting the download until I had to manually delete the offending message from the server. This I find annoying. PC-Cillin never did or caused this. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/20 WinXP Home ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Anti-virus plugins
Re the stuff on Norton and XP below: (related to Norton AV 2002 and the loss of the autodelete function for infected mail after moving from 2001) I've found that Norton 2001 works fine (so far!) with the Bat in XP if the instructions found from the google search below are followed. Norton were very cagy about it working, citing the Microsoft compatiblity update as untested. in fact, I suspect all the MS update is is a warning flash on installation about the symevent file in 2001 being incompatible, but installing the updated file during the main install seems to work ok. Uninstalling 2002 was a pain, though - the uninstall routine leaves loads of stuff in the registry which I manually cleared out, and a number of dll files. Even then, the new install picked up my registration details from the 2002 install. At least my 90 day oem 2001 copy now has the 365 days of updates of the retail 2002 that was there before! My mail downloads are now fully automatic but I've disabled all the scheduled tasks just in case there is still a problem with Symevent. John Rainer Friday, December 28, 2001, 8:22:47 PM, you wrote: JR Friday, December 28, 2001, 6:45:55 PM, you wrote: S John, your observations of NAV2002 seem to be exactly the same as my S observations. I think the autodelete function is not there, at least S I have not seen the option. Like you, the autorepair does not seem to S work. S I'd be interested to know whether or not you are successful in using S NAV2001 with WinXP. I did try it, but got the not compatible S warnings. Symantec has some information on using it, but was very S hard to find on their web site, and seemed very sketchy. I never S could make it work and from what others say, they couldn't either. JR Sam, JR I found the following info on Google - I don't know if it is reliable JR or not! Put HjWi7.17602$[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with JR quotes into a Google news search. JR There is also a software compatibility update for XP where Norton JR Antivirus 2001 is mentioned - I've contacted Symantec about it and am JR awaiting a response (cue moaning wind and tumbleweed). See JR http://servicenews.symantec.com/cgi-bin/displayArticle.cgi?group=symantec.support.winnt.nortonantivirus2002.generalarticle=25317 JR - I did not post the original article but did follow it up. JR John -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
Norton AV2002 seems to work with the_Bat. I know it checks the outgoing mail and supposedly checks the incoming mail. I probably have had warnings on the incoming mail, but the_Bat seems more or less immune to viruses so AV2002 is not triggered unless I was to try and open an attachment, which is don't. -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches. (George Bernard Shaw) tbudl... What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see how I would use it to check my incoming emails. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins
S Norton AV2002 seems to work with the_Bat. I know it checks the S outgoing mail and supposedly checks the incoming mail. What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see how I would use it to check my incoming emails. Norton Antivirus works very well with The Bat! Be sure to enable the manual mail configuration, and for each mail account (assuming that it's a POP account), use pop3.norton.antivirus instead of the POP mail address. Use that one in your username line: username/pop.mail The SMTP address will remain unaffected. The online help will have more detail, just make sure to look under manual mail configuration. I have my NAV setup to automatically delete infected attachments. All I see in the left hand frame is a file icon with some Norton Virus Detected message. I got another Badtrans sent to me yesterday, and Norton and The Bat! handled it wonderfully. -- Dave Nadeau Fort Collins, CO -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 28 Dec 2001 at 14:30:37 , Peter Adams wrote the following on the Anti-virus plugins thread: PA What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what PA can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see PA how I would use it to check my incoming emails. Doesn't BitDefender have an option to scan mails ? - -- If you meet someone without a smile, give them yours! __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Member of the PGP-Basics, Encryption Help Team iD8DBQE8LGYb8WBGNj3ut+0RAkYpAJ9OwlMuoFGEiKstuRTcXIvvwigCvgCcD7LM mi9Jdu8FnYKyJSMdxyXjAIU= =iVlj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
Actually, NAV2002 does not need to be set up manually. Someone previously mentioned setting up NAV2001 manually. I had tried that some time ago, and didn't think it worked. Someone again mentioned it later and I tried it again and I still could not get it to work with the_Bat. Seems like NAV2001 would not start because of an error. Probably a case of me not having it set up right, but I had followed what directions were available. -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be the change that you want to see in the world. (Mohandas Gandhi) Visit my web site at http://personal.mem.bellsouth.net/mem/s/a/sammtn/home.html Norton Antivirus works very well with The Bat! Be sure to enable the manual mail configuration, and for each mail account (assuming that it's a POP account), use pop3.norton.antivirus instead of the POP mail address. Use that one in your username line: username/pop.mail The SMTP address will remain unaffected. The online help will have more detail, just make sure to look under manual mail configuration. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see how I would use it to check my incoming emails. I've been using AVG (www.grisoft.com) for several months now, and I like it very much. So far, though, they don't tie into The Bat! for incoming/outgoing mail. If anyone else on this list is using AVG, please join with me in nagging grisoft to tie into The Bat! as they have with OE (yuk!). -Don The Bat! 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins
It was foretold that on 28/12/2001 @ 08:12:10 GMT-0800 (which was 17:12 where I live) Don Taylor wrote and spread these wise comments on Anti-virus plugins: I've been using AVG (www.grisoft.com) for several months now, and I like it very much. So far, though, they don't tie into The Bat! for incoming/outgoing mail. If anyone else on this list is using AVG, please join with me in nagging grisoft to tie into The Bat! as they have with OE (yuk!). I'm your man !! using AVG too and hoping they will tie it into The Bat! -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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Hi Geoff, NAV2002 seems to bear little resemblance to NAV2001. It no longer has an are which tells you what e-mail clients are detected and protected. Upon installation, The_Bat is detected and will scan the sent e-mail as well as the received e-mail. It still has the Live Update features but the rest has changed. I printed off your directions for using The_Bat and NAV2001 and I'll re-check the setup, but it seems to be what I originally tried. If there is one point I might have missed it would be putting my user name in front of my mail server, although I think I did. -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be the change that you want to see in the world. (Mohandas Gandhi) Visit my web site at http://personal.mem.bellsouth.net/mem/s/a/sammtn/home.html BTW, what's different about NAV2002 that it does not need manual configuration? Has TB been added to the list of mail clients that it recognises? HTH, -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Anti-virus plugins
Friday, December 28, 2001, 1:36:47 PM, you wrote: DN Norton Antivirus works very well with The Bat! Be sure to DN enable the manual mail configuration, and for each mail account DN (assuming that it's a POP account), use pop3.norton.antivirus DN instead of the POP mail address. Use that one in your username DN line: username/pop.mail The SMTP address will remain DN unaffected. The online help will have more detail, just make DN sure to look under manual mail configuration. DN I have my NAV setup to automatically delete infected DN attachments. All I see in the left hand frame is a file icon DN with some Norton Virus Detected message. I got another DN Badtrans sent to me yesterday, and Norton and The Bat! DN handled it wonderfully. Dave, Which version are you using? - I've gone to 2002 because I'm now using XP and the autodelete function seems not to be present in 2002 - worked fine in 2000 and 2001 though. The email scanner in 2002 works in a very different way to earlier versions and needs no email client configuration. The only automatic function seems to be autorepair, which pops up a dialog on every infected mail (infuriating) as it can't repair it, plus it picks up the tmp file created by the bat, presumably because the mail is intercepted in a different way from 2000/2001. To make things worse, what's left of any infected mail has most of its headers removed. I've heard that 2001 can be got to work in XP, so I might give it a try - that worked fine in Windows 2000. Advice from Symantec on their forums seems to be along the lines of disabling the email scanner, as it is only a supplementary function, and relying instead on the resident scanner. Seems to ignore the point of why some users want to use email scanning but there you go. John Rainer -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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Hi John, JR Which version are you using? - I've gone to 2002 because I'm now using JR XP and the autodelete function seems not to be present in 2002 - JR worked fine in 2000 and 2001 though. I've got about 1 1/2 months left on my NAV2001. I didn't realize that the 2002 version was so different. The manual configuration and autodelete are a snap with NAV2001. I'm on Win2K Pro SP2. I guess I'll see what NAV2002 looks like in about 45 days -- Dave Nadeau Fort Collins, CO -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:10:41 -0600GMT (which was 14:10 +0100GMT where I live), Sam thought about Anti-virus plugins and wrote: S I probably have had warnings on the incoming mail, but the_Bat seems S more or less immune to viruses so AV2002 is not triggered unless I was S to try and open an attachment, which is don't. Hi Sam, you are right. The Bat! will give you a real hard time before you can open an email-virus! Thumbs up! ;o) Still you will need your AV for other possible ways of infections... - -- Cheers Peter 'Fatal error: Keyboard not found! Press Enter to continue.' _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8LL20AzZSBuEHdM4RAvOEAKDv3G8rYzoj2Qi6IGXBZ4Ys1NRMYgCg7VyQ lizzEk1pEuRiT5pSxwEHiD4= =zQlI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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John, your observations of NAV2002 seem to be exactly the same as my observations. I think the autodelete function is not there, at least I have not seen the option. Like you, the autorepair does not seem to work. I'd be interested to know whether or not you are successful in using NAV2001 with WinXP. I did try it, but got the not compatible warnings. Symantec has some information on using it, but was very hard to find on their web site, and seemed very sketchy. I never could make it work and from what others say, they couldn't either. -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The harder you work the luckier you become. Which version are you using? - I've gone to 2002 because I'm now using XP and the autodelete function seems not to be present in 2002 - worked fine in 2000 and 2001 though. The email scanner in 2002 works in a very different way to earlier versions and needs no email client configuration. The only automatic function seems to be autorepair, which pops up a dialog on every infected mail (infuriating) as it can't repair it, plus it picks up the tmp file created by the bat, presumably because the mail is intercepted in a different way from 2000/2001. To make things worse, what's left of any infected mail has most of its headers removed. I've heard that 2001 can be got to work in XP, so I might give it a try - that worked fine in Windows 2000. Advice from Symantec on their forums seems to be along the lines of disabling the email scanner, as it is only a supplementary function, and relying instead on the resident scanner. Seems to ignore the point of why some users want to use email scanning but there you go. John Rainer -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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Hi Peter, You are correct. The_Bat does a good job on viruses, which seem to be extremely abundant these days. I have yet to get infected, thanks to stance the_Bat takes. The virus scan program is very important, maybe not for the_Bat, but for Outlook Express and Outlook, both of which are on this computer even though they are only uses sparingly. I use OE for HTML mail, but might try using Word and attaching it to the_Bat. Only bad part is that most of my correspondents will not open attachments either. LOL -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history. (George Bernard Shaw) you are right. The Bat! will give you a real hard time before you can open an email-virus! Thumbs up! ;o) Still you will need your AV for other possible ways of infections... - -- Cheers Peter -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 12:51:42 -0600GMT (which was 19:51 +0100GMT where I live), Sam thought about Anti-virus plugins and wrote: S I have yet to get infected, thanks to stance the_Bat takes. The virus S scan program is very important, maybe not for the_Bat, but for Outlook S Express and Outlook, both of which are on this computer even though they S are only uses sparingly. Sure, Sam, sparingly might be enough! ;-) S I use OE for HTML mail, but might try using Word and attaching it to S the_Bat. Only bad part is that most of my correspondents will not open S attachments either. LOL For what in the world do you need HTML in emails? Ok, sending mom an x-mas card. Right. I'd use OE for that too. ;o) Have a good time! :-) - -- Cheers Peter 'DOS Tip #17: Add DEVICE=FNGRCROS.SYS to CONFIG.SYS' _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8LMreAzZSBuEHdM4RAmwtAJ4qnO623Y+GpXl/GcLz9aIct5BgugCdH/vS G2NpAxSBOjc3xhGKdxKfefg= =6eOL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Anti-virus plugins
S I have yet to get infected, thanks to stance the_Bat takes. The virus S scan program is very important, maybe not for the_Bat, but for Outlook S Express and Outlook, both of which are on this computer even though they S are only uses sparingly. Sure, Sam, sparingly might be enough! ;-) Can't argue here. When I say sparingly, I do indeed mean SPARINGLY. I have some in-laws who are gung-ho on HTML; don't think they EVER send a plain text message. I use it when I want to send a picture imbedded in the message, something I don't think can be done in the_Bat. It can be sent as an attachment, but, like I said, many people will not open attachments, me included unless I know what is being sent and by whom. S I use OE for HTML mail, but might try using Word and attaching it to S the_Bat. Only bad part is that most of my correspondents will not open S attachments either. LOL For what in the world do you need HTML in emails? Ok, sending mom an x-mas card. Right. I'd use OE for that too. ;o) I don't even send Christmas or other holiday cards by HTML. I use Hallmark or Blue Mountain e-cards. I use it to send pictures. I do feel HTML is a bane to the internet and should be stopped but that surely will never happen. Too many tyros on the net who go ga-ga over that stuff. I notice The_Bat is working on incorporating HTML in the next version; sure hope they don't mess up the good thing they presently have. Peter -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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Friday, December 28, 2001, 6:45:55 PM, you wrote: S John, your observations of NAV2002 seem to be exactly the same as my S observations. I think the autodelete function is not there, at least S I have not seen the option. Like you, the autorepair does not seem to S work. S I'd be interested to know whether or not you are successful in using S NAV2001 with WinXP. I did try it, but got the not compatible S warnings. Symantec has some information on using it, but was very S hard to find on their web site, and seemed very sketchy. I never S could make it work and from what others say, they couldn't either. Sam, I found the following info on Google - I don't know if it is reliable or not! Put HjWi7.17602$[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with quotes into a Google news search. There is also a software compatibility update for XP where Norton Antivirus 2001 is mentioned - I've contacted Symantec about it and am awaiting a response (cue moaning wind and tumbleweed). See http://servicenews.symantec.com/cgi-bin/displayArticle.cgi?group=symantec.support.winnt.nortonantivirus2002.generalarticle=25317 - I did not post the original article but did follow it up. John -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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Hi John, Thanks, I filed the information on using NAV2001 with WinXP just in case. Good luck with your inquiry to Symantec. My experience with them is not great. I get conflicting, and frequently incorrect information and, like the inquiry quoted, it is the problem of the user, not Symantec. That seems to be a given. Of course, this is if they even bother to answer my inquiries. -- Have a great day, Sammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Visit my web site at http://personal.mem.bellsouth.net/mem/s/a/sammtn/home.html I found the following info on Google - I don't know if it is reliable or not! Put HjWi7.17602$[EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with quotes into a Google news search. There is also a software compatibility update for XP where Norton Antivirus 2001 is mentioned - I've contacted Symantec about it and am awaiting a response (cue moaning wind and tumbleweed). See http://servicenews.symantec.com/cgi-bin/displayArticle.cgi?group=symantec.support.winnt.nortonantivirus2002.generalarticle=25317 - I did not post the original article but did follow it up. John -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Anti-virus plugins
Hello all, What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see how I would use it to check my incoming emails. DT I've been using AVG (www.grisoft.com) for several months now, and I DT like it very much. So far, though, they don't tie into The Bat! for DT incoming/outgoing mail. If anyone else on this list is using AVG, DT please join with me in nagging grisoft to tie into The Bat! as they DT have with OE (yuk!). Grisoft working on POP/SMTP proxy and should be released soon. I contacted them (they are in my town) and received their API, so I sent it to Stefan for creating plugin. If will be possible to support it, it will be. BTW Grisoft use The Bat! as their mailer :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.54 Beta/21 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 256 MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
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tbudl... What Anti-virus software works with the AV section of The Bat? ie what can I use? I've been using AVX pro (Dow BitDefender) here and can't see how I would use it to check my incoming emails. -- Peter http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76/ np: Data Bank A - ...In It's Wake -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
