Re: SPAM Filter
Jeff, If the TB4 plug-ins are compatible with TB5, you might want to take a look at the Regula Anti-spam plug-in. I've been using it ever since my mail server went to STARTLS (which broke POPfile) about six months ago. After a bit of training Regula seems to be doing a good job of catching the spam that gets through the mail server's filters. http://www.gaijin.at/en/tbpregula.php -- Steven Vallière | tb 4.2.44.2 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM Filter
Hello Jeff, On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 you wrote: JG Hello Group JG I've been away from Windows for a while but I'm now back home with XP JG x64 and TheBat v 5.0.34. JG I see we no longer have the BayesIT (? spelling) plug in for a variety JG of reasons. JG What do people use/recommend in its place? It's useful to be able to JG identify SPAM and have it moved to a junk folder. Years ago a similar question was asked and the suggestion at that time was K9 from KEIR.NET which I have used ever since with great success. It's a Bayesian (sp?) filter which will tag spam with the word SPAM in the subject line. From there you can create a filter to move it to another folder. -- Jack LaRosa Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)
Hello Watcher everyone else, on 17-Dez-2004 at 21:10 you (Watcher) wrote: I don't know of any desktop spam filter with Bayes analysis that comes Wow, that is strange to hear, it worked the instant I installed it, I trained it very little and it has been doing well. Thats not so strange - I don't know how BayesIt actually works, but I think everything is considered ham until you re-classify it. :) Of course I have NO email offers that I consider non-spam, I don't want to be 'kept up to date', when I need something I'll start looking, not get what someone sent to my desktop to sell me something. Maybe that is part of the reason? The success of any Bayes filter is dependant on one's email profile, and undoubtfully a consistent classification by the end-user is necessary. Its surprising however how precise PopFile can classify mails (PopFile can not only keep ham and spam apart, but classify mails into groups that you define yourself). If I start having problems, I'll download K9 as you suggested, it looks fine except that it's external which will be a bit more of a pain. As it is now, both have their pros cons... BayesIt integrates nicely into TB, K9 has a much better configuration interface. I actually find it easier to re-classify a mail with K9 than with BI. BayesIt needs better integration into TB, but I think that is not the problem of TB but rather the plugin interface. For example, I'd like to have some buttons for classification in the mail viewer and preview pane, and not nested in some right-click menu. I'd also like to see the score of each message in TB, and not only in the logfiles of BI. For me, K9's interface is simply better for that. PopFile's interface statistics are unrivalled IMHO, but then again, the program is so slow, it hurts. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 de la Lastra's Corollary: After an access cover has been secured by 16 hold-down screws, it will be discovered that the gasket has been ommitted. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)
Hello Alexander, Friday, December 17, 2004, 1:25:25 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Having used SpamPal + Bayesian plugin, PopFile lately K9, they all performed a lot better even after the shortest training periods. It's why I use Malwasher Pro. Can include multiple e-mail accounts, but working off the same spam/legit training mail base. It also includes white list/black list, dns blacklist, and user filtering (including RegEx). Everything happens on the server so nothing gets downloaded that I don't let through (though I have recently begun letting some, to train BayesIT and give it a test. Won't be the same, but will do something when I forget to run MWP first). Now if there was a Mailwasher Plugin for TB, now that WOULD be nice. You know, I think I'll e-mail Firetrust about it. Wouldn't that be cool? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. --Plato (427 BC - 347 BC) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)
Hello Andrew, A reminder of what Andrew on TBUDL typed on: 17 December 2004 at 22:15:37 GMT +0100 A You know, I think I'll e-mail Firetrust about it. Wouldn't that be A cool? His name is Nick Bolton, I have Mailwasher Pro as well and I totally agree with you, it's by far the best spam killer I've used... Apart from MDaemon that is. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 17/12/2004 at 21:30 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgplW28UiveAB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat
Hallo Adam, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:49:06 -0230GMT (28-6-02, 3:19 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses? Place the addresses in your address book in one group. What you've got to do is at the 'advanced' tab check 'address(es) must be listed in the address book:' and see that you point to the correct address book group. The condition that you're checking on at the 'rule' tab must be a rather general one (a dot present in the kludges or something like that) since you only want to check for addresses. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat
On Friday, June 28, 2002, 03:19, Adam wrote: How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses? Besides Roelof suggestion you can also make a .txt file with all addresses and filter against that one. This method does however only work with the Selective Download filter. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat
How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses? -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @21 June 2002, 02:11:23 +0200 (01:11 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In closing: Whenever spamcop.bat is run, it leaves a DOS window on my screen that has to be closed manually. I just solved this minor annoyance by putting @echo off as the first line in the template for Spamcop.bat. Another method is to look at the Properties of the remaining (finished) DOS window and check Close window when finished (is that what it's called?). It will remember that setting for next time. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9En32OeQkq5KdzaARAta2AJ9fw6phYQK9TyL8RUB37PoyGCu34ACePh2N pu5Zxx+0sHaRAep7OYvQTPs= =nUOc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the enlightenment!! :) A pleasure :-) I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but I'm not sure if they work as intended. Here's what I found: - Shouldn't the first stage filter (that creates a spam submission message) be set to manual only? Wouldn't it otherwise automatically respond to any incoming message that fulfills the criterion of having a '.' in its kludges? Yes it would! Of course the Ctrl-Alt-S trigger is also set, but I don't know if that will override automatic execution.. Yes - it should be manual. It actually has the faoManualOnly flag and should be pasted as a manual filter. Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? - The file to export to (C:\TEMP\EXPORT.TXT) was set correctly when I pasted the filter into the sorting office, but the Export to File action itself was not activated. Also, append to existing file was set, which I think will inadvertently report any previously sent spam along with the current spam message. I've changed that into overwrite. The export format was Text, is that alright? The quote kludges was Off, and I've turned that on. Again, the filter source says: faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(. I hope I made the correct changes (and if so, maybe the author of the filter should update this FAQ section?). Who, me? (I am both the author of the filter and the maintainer of the FAQ g). I'll have to annotate the filter to say that it may not import correctly. What a pain! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Dy8qOeQkq5KdzaARApbiAJ9jwWWHNj3qTPICBhxDs1Gep8sc1wCgz/E9 rBYxrx5jNg0Y6fPYrgHDwjE= =fgfM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The export format was Text, is that alright? Just spotted this - no, it should be Unix. What a pig's ear! :-( (not your fault at all). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9DzBLOeQkq5KdzaARAkojAJsElUfeLRqdmhFoD3pJecZ74m5KzQCeOmCg FDh5Jf20b67aLu8R/quohFQ= =orQC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote: MDP All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(. Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on the faq page. 1st Filter: after Actions 2nd Filter: after SaveTemplate If you paste the filters in your text editor and remove the linebreaks everything works fine. -- Gruß, Matthias Death is God's way of telling you not to be such a wise guy. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 15:15:27 +0200 (14:15 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters just yet.. I couldn't find a Paste button or anything like it in the Sorting Office, so I simply pressed Ctrl-V. Have I been stupid again? O :-) Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100% correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again: ,-=[ Ctrl-Alt-S Filter ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` ,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]- BeginFilter Name: SpamCop AutoResponder Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat SaveTemplate: \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9DzWXOeQkq5KdzaARArGwAJwPbuAPIVvbF+dYXvRAC5FSjHTJWQCfcvV0 kmKjg1WbnrCc9qthzDMCHuM= =nt7q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, @18 June 2002, 14:28:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here they are again: The MainSet property is wrong: MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,-=[ Try again :-( ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Dze5OeQkq5KdzaARAlREAKCuxopw2r2KswuyPSf+91aAG7Ov1ACgpwJi 81q8QoxhTJtUJ/RuQs/ZveU= =tYXV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hello Daniel, On Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 3:35:11 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): DvRC When I try to enter a high-ascii character using DvRC Alt-nnn, the Bat doesn't enter the character but instead performs all DvRC sorts of system functions (menu's pop up, etc). Do you know of a way DvRC to turn this off? Is there a small chance you have turned 'NumLock' off and don't keep 'Alt' pressed while trying to enter the character codes? I can create exactly the same behavior you're describing if I do so ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Were there fewer fools, knaves would starve. - Anonymous Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hello Marck, On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:28:53 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 20:28 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP ,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]- [...] MDP SaveTemplate: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A This is the line break I advised a member on the German list to delete. You might want to mention this in the FAQ. I have a new problem with SpamCop: Instead of a web page with the header info and the choice which postmasters to send the spam report to, the second filter now opens a web page that suggests Upgrade to a paid SpamCop account. What is that about, I wonder? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @18 June 2002, 20:53:15 +0700 (14:53 UK time) Thomas F wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP SaveTemplate: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A This is the line break I advised a member on the German list to delete. You might want to mention this in the FAQ. I won't need to - I'll be republishing it without the *space* after the SaveTemplate causing auto-wrap! I have a new problem with SpamCop: Instead of a web page with the header info and the choice which postmasters to send the spam report to, the second filter now opens a web page that suggests Upgrade to a paid SpamCop account. What is that about, I wonder? As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the notification message for free accounts :-(. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D0DWOeQkq5KdzaARAp93AJ0Z9KRYy7PipdmERq2kMZOOkFDf1gCfVCA7 /sM9buvYBCpJOKjjzzdbyIw= =ZRUY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100% correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again: snip Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the filter into my filters list, and when I got to run the CTRL ALT S, it exports the text file fine... but never sends anything... I've checked on the server, and the sent items, but nothing... what am I missing? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 09:29:09 -0500 (15:29 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the filter into my filters list, and when I got to run the CTRL ALT S, it exports the text file fine... but never sends anything... I've checked on the server, and the sent items, but nothing... what am I missing? Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over bad wrapping. Actually, that may be the problem anyway: if your viewer wrapped the lines then the pasted filter may be messed up. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D0YAOeQkq5KdzaARAlRHAJ9nS98zPuSQZ90h1QmeDCiiOkmGXwCfWVNv KZNotDz1lVeP1jdXTs2BBuw= =ML0a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over bad wrapping. Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an external editor, removed wrappings from the settings, and everything was fine... but here it is: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\\Spam Target: \\\Spam\Forwarded Spam CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\export.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49235 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter TIA :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 09:45:04 -0500 (15:45 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an external editor, removed wrappings from the settings, and everything was fine... but here it is: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\\Spam Target: \\\Spam\Forwarded Spam CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\export.txt snip ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D0t9OeQkq5KdzaARAub1AJ4iW2Je3lUAdx5Lk8B/JM+1dutvuACdGXHP rHEjNgaC768mT4MuDGQOlqA= =/8j0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... snip ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Plus it's not marking it as read, because all mail that has been marked as spam by the server gets dumped into a common folder, and marked as read... I then process at a later time... would that affect it as well? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:07:31 -0500 (16:07 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! ... dumped into a common folder, and marked as read... I then process at a later time... would that affect it as well? No. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1LXOeQkq5KdzaARAhQiAKDL6NGvX/bkxDnGMgq83ADog6nCBACeMGPe OXGGZumH0ZCUts+VAtqoSQE= =Roaf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:38:29 -0500 (16:38 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1ZSOeQkq5KdzaARAttUAJ9I337Is5JBIR9e4/FwLxa164IOnQCfZeaK ZhYYT1KdxXN+Eqc/9CMj3OA= =EGyS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:52:32 -0500 (16:52 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1gpOeQkq5KdzaARAoBAAKCxOeRTqHdvBROal/Mv9SkWhwQdagCcCgW5 mjJWronHxXK0CD2TZqcDV54= =oIDf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting in the SpamCop address... the same way I've been doing it since signing up. Just tested it again *with* %ACCOUNT='accountname' in the template for the rule, and it still didn't send... any other ideas? or did I put it in the wrong place? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 11:01:49 -0500 (17:01 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting in the SpamCop address... the same way I've been doing it since signing up. Just tested it again *with* %ACCOUNT='accountname' in the template for the rule, and it still didn't send... any other ideas? or did I put it in the wrong place? Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related POP3/SMTP servers. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1qZOeQkq5KdzaARAoVbAJ90G9Qr2sbC7x74TS9o8IQ8hCCpkwCgj4q6 SGJIWwEyMru/DqAwsknyQVc= =Z7GH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related POP3/SMTP servers. That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key combo isn't going to kill me ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 11:13:08 -0500 (17:13 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key combo isn't going to kill me ;) Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and I could never replicate the problem again. The bug was removed from the traqqer without resolution. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D16TOeQkq5KdzaARAiRrAKDcUHaRxzDV5Z6tzOjPKyoT3zuMbwCfVyvF XUARQxKOq9WwkUcBFczT3+4= =BQGz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and I could never replicate the problem again. The bug was removed from the traqqer without resolution. Heh... I'll be damned... that worked fine. Nice lil' filter works... just going to put the other one in too, and I should be all okay to handle spam nearly automatically ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck. At 11:33 AM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]: MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote... Hi Marck. MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. %ACCOUNT is a macro... just replace main with the name of the account you wish to send from... its used in templates. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, @18 June 2002, 13:08:27 -0400 (18:08 UK time) Jan Rifkinson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. main was just a for example. Mine is %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan knew what I meant, fortunately. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D3NTOeQkq5KdzaARAguXAJ9XwBEfbjwnX+ErBY3G5wXQcpCB5wCfSniv I3UbXzgwST4muk5DAn1+QoM= =61S+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hello Marck, On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:16:51 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 21:16 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @18 June 2002, 03:16:11 +0700 (21:16 UK time) Thomas F wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-) ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-( This does though g: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D5g6OeQkq5KdzaARAs8yAKCI+rvuGwecjTVsXmcw5DpGqyw75gCfcEzI 3WKkC1EcL3szXoUHavsigL8= =f7r1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 4:29 PM, you wrote: MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-) MDP ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-( MDP This does though g: MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to paste the entire correct filter and start over ;) thanks, / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQ+a8j3ZlJQqDEkFEQJybACgsh9ofbOIMzZlSy/DEtVnImTRf6QAn2e4 y9RzAVnf2zNAftDglU8AU556 =9wgI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 June 2002, 16:41:19 -0400 (21:41 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to paste the entire correct filter and start over ;) ,-=[ Submit - all flavours ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` ,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]- BeginFilter Name: SpamCop AutoResponder Active: 1 Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat SaveTemplate:\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D6DZOeQkq5KdzaARAoTGAJ97SMC3dhwURVXRWchRaeaxLtGNagCdHVn3 i51C8N0NcA95n12w4XCipdM= =rju6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:06 PM, you wrote: MDP ,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]- MDP BeginFilter MDP Name: SpamCop AutoResponder MDP Active: 1 MDP Source: \Inbox MDP Target: \Trash MDP CopyFolder: none MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion MDP ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat MDP ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat MDP SaveTemplate:\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A MDP EndFilter but I don't see that change you were talking about. Isn't this the change area: MDP 22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A here is your reply with that info: Thanks. Works. :-) ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-( This does though g: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS* with your line: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* or am I looking in the wrong place? / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQ+m4z3ZlJQqDEkFEQJ7ZACfcUqiI7A94NIP0v7xu5DAF+dqjI4An0Vd bjpMunIb2cet6A3eMbO5e3sS =Rlk1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 June 2002, 17:32:14 -0400 (22:32 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS* with your line: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* or am I looking in the wrong place? It's a chalk and cheese issue.. http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the sorting office. http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the same, but what it looks like in the template in the filter. It's there for you to manually paste into an existing filter. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D6pSOeQkq5KdzaARArigAJ9mroLqVk6jgFMvByhBPshm50s7PACfVV08 A/kKJVULq5iCz6on2/qxVcg= =Ryws -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck. At 1:52 PM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]: What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. MDP main was just a for example. Mine is MDP %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan knew what I meant, MDP fortunately. Whew. :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:46 PM, you wrote: MDP It's a chalk and cheese issue.. MDP http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended MDP to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the MDP sorting office. MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the same, but what it looks MDP like in the template in the filter. It's there for you to manually MDP paste into an existing filter. I wondered about that, which is why I asked. I noticed those paste lines, tried to setup the filter manually with that info, but it wasn't easy! Now I know WHY :) / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat
On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:34:55 PM, Carlo Revelli wrote: Do you know if there is a way to create a filter with a huge list of domain names (and not only with e-mail addresses)? How? Not using the regular Inbox filters. You can load a file for Selective Download filtering, but I think that this would be a very slow way of sorting out spam. Is the spam domain list is the best approach? Spammers change the email addresses and domains regularly, so most of the domains listed will no longer be used, and just slow your filters down. I rely on a small number of rules to delete 90% of the spam I get - I am confident enough of them to use them as Kill rules in a Selective Download filter, although I use an Ignore filter to hold suspicious messages. Those that get through I send to Spamcop, and adjust my filters if required. I am sure you can guess the kind if words to filter on - my kill filter includes: btamail.net.cn 2002 Gov Grants spinformillions email-4-prizes.com Viagra Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat
Hello Julian, Sunday, June 16, 2002, 7:59:22 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:34:55 PM, Carlo Revelli wrote: Do you know if there is a way to create a filter with a huge list of domain names (and not only with e-mail addresses)? How? One fairly successful method is to filter to a spamtrap folder all emails that do NOT have your address in the To field. I usually isolate one or two such emails per day. -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Spam filter
Hello Listers, On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, at 18:19:00 [GMT -0600] (which was 1:19 where I live) Joseph wrote: JN Is it to filter out known spam sending addresses, or to filter out JN mail that has or does not have a particular string? Has anyone JN here had much success? I need to have a zero risk of false JN positives. I think most of us filter good addresses and assume rest are SPAM. Of course is necessary to *not* delete assumed SPAM for a few days, and have a look searching for good addresses to save. -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator Subscriptions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53t on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 TB Tip of the Moment: Each account within The Bat! can have its own settings for Microsoft Dial-Up Networking. Check out Account | Properties | Network page. PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Spam filter
Hi Joseph, @ 7:19:00 PM on 11/14/2001, Joseph N. wrote: JN What is the concept behind filtering for spam? This has been answered somewhat, but for the record: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/msg17609.html http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=tbudl_thebat_dutaint_comrestrict=exclude=words=sherlock+filter -Brian -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: SPAM Filter
Hi Raj, Historians believe that Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:05 GMT +0530 was when, Raj [R] typed the following: R I just wanted to check whether the filter will check for all R addresses for a particular entry or only the first one. I use that as well. TB looks at all of them, just like the %AB macros. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Spam Filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 12 December 2000 at 19:48:31 +1100 (which was 08:48 where I live) words of wisdom emanated from John Phillips. JP Any generic type of filter that will pick up spam? These days I get JP so much rubbish - be a millionaire in 30 days, send me money make JP yourself rich, etc., Viagra without a prescription (I sure could do JP with some in any case g), etc. etc. JP Any one had any success in getting rid of these pests? Have a look at http://spamcops.net they might be able to help you. - -- Regards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | David Elliott | Software Engineer | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | Look --- A tag line with no meaning. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOjXwqfmK8eZlD0U0EQKElACfcbLvdwWxBoGSwljzSNz/JV4IJrcAni0J vqcCamLuKnULAD7YCnothOgr =+C5j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam Filter
Hi John Any generic type of filter that will pick up spam? These days I get so much rubbish - be a millionaire in 30 days, send me money make yourself rich, etc., Viagra without a prescription (I sure could do with some in any case g), etc. etc. Any one had any success in getting rid of these pests? I've just programmed a mail filter which does his job quite well. It's a perl script that is executed each time when a mail arrives. A message is treated as spam if the sender's ip is listed in ORBS or MAPS. So, it does for each time two requests (example ip: 1.2.3.4): host 4.3.2.1.blackholes.mail-abuse.org host 4.3.2.1.relays.orbs.org If the ip 127.0.0.2 is returned, the probability is high that the message is spam. Because I don't delete the message, but send it to another address, I take no risks. Additionally, I check the subjects for some suspect strings. So, I let a script filter my mails *before* they arrive in my pop account. So short, Beat -- Using The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam Filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:48:31 +1100, John Phillips wrote these words of wisdom: [...] JP Any generic type of filter that will pick up spam? These days I get JP so much rubbish - be a millionaire in 30 days, send me money make JP yourself rich, etc., Viagra without a prescription (I sure could do JP with some in any case g), etc. etc. JP Any one had any success in getting rid of these pests? It looks like the FAQ pages need a word on spam filtering. I'll have to look into that. I'll give a summary of what I'd write here: Maintaining spam filters to delete spam from your inbox is difficult since spam artists change their addresses frequently and their techniques of spamming vary. This will take too much out of you and the spammers will win I guess. Furthermore you've done nothing to help actually fight spam. Deleting spam at the server level seems nice because the spam actually doesn't reach your inbox. Again, this has two problems. Firstly, the headers of each message has to be checked which takes time, so the concern of saving bandwidth isn't really achieved. You also have the same problems maintaining the spam filters and you can only filter based on characteristics of the headers and not the message bodies. Be that as it may, there are many anti-spam shareware applications available and these are updated frequently by the developers. See http://winfiles.cnet.com/apps/nt/mail-antispam.html for some. The method Marck and I (among others) have been using is very effective in two ways. The first is that the method requires minimal maintenance. The second is that you can examine the spam, if you like, and report them so that the spammers can have a little misery as well. We filter spam by exclusion, the principle here being that if we can actually filter all messages that we know are legitimate, then the rest of messages must be spam. This simple principle is amazingly accurate. Spammers tend to send BCC's of their spams to their victims. So we know now that there's an overwhelming characteristic about spam in that it's almost never addressed directly to you. I do receive the occasional spam message addressed directly to me but they're few and far between and tolerable. :=) So: a) Create filters for all your family members, friends and associates who send e-mail to you. You may have already done so. b) Create filters for all your discussion list messages and newsletter type messages. These you may have largely been created already. This part takes some time to refine since a lot of these messages are not addressed directly to you. If you don't create filters for them, they'll end up in your spam folder. c) The penultimate filter in your filter list should be one that filters, to the inbox, all messages that are addressed directly to you. This basically will catch the occasional legitimate message that you haven't created a filter for. Filter string: 'your email address' Location: 'recipient' Presence: 'yes' d) The last filter should be one that moves all messages not yet filtered by the previous filter rules to a special folder ... I call it my spam folder. This folder will contain only BCC'd messages or messages not addressed directly to you. filter string: 'e' Location: 'anywhere' Presence: 'yes' If you wish to actively fight spam and wish not to actually learn how to trace these pests you definitely should take a look at http://spamcops.net. It does all the tracing for you in a flash. If you wish to learn how to trace them yourself there's a lot of info on the internet in that regard, but I personally suggest looking at the freeware application 'Sam Spade' http://www.samspade.org/ssw/. It provides the tools you need to trace these pesty characters and the documentation is great. Their homepage contains all the application documentation which gives some tutorials on how to examine spam message headers. PS// I'll need to keep this one for personal transmission to anyone who may ask the question again. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ 'Funny, only sensible people agree with me.' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/11 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOjYekVfJ62ArBxfiEQJsWwCgyoTkuqD6sZ6o6RzMxWswn8ordsUAn0bO 4f/wJ4MvI/E7PdhLbVbg0M/H =okMb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Spam Filter
Hello John, In a post time stamped re: "Spam Filter" you wrote: John Any generic type of filter that will pick up spam? I'm sure you will get a lot of suggestions on this -- some more ingenious than others -- but one simple way is to filter out any email that arrives in your inbox that *isn't* addressed to you. TB!'s filtering system is very malleable you will always find substantial, good humored patient support on this list. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam Filter
(ACM == "A. Curtis Martin") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ACM The method Marck and I (among others) have been using is very ACM effective in two ways. The first is that the method requires ACM minimal maintenance. The second is that you can examine the spam, ACM if you like, and report them so that the spammers can have a ACM little misery as well. We filter spam by exclusion, the principle ACM here being that if we can actually filter all messages that we ACM know are legitimate, then the rest of messages must be spam. This ACM simple principle is amazingly accurate. I'll say! Since Marck suggested this to me a few weeks ago, very little SPAM makes it to my Inbox. I'll bet I've seen only one that made it into my Inbox since I implemented this filtering method. It'll take a few tries to make sure you're filtering the _known_ stuff -- that is meant for you -- though. After that, it /is/ pretty darn accurate. However, I'd suggest not deleting stuff from the server before it gets to you unless you have a lot of faith. I just redirect it into a SPAM folder and check it every so often. So far, I can usually just check the folder and hit Ctrl+Del ;-) -Brian -- Behold, the power of cheese! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
Hello ztrader, On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:27:56 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 27, 2000, 10:27:56 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, ztrader wrote: Saturday, August 26, 2000, 5:14:46 PM, you wrote: MDP 1) Set up a filter which specifies a match string of '[X-SBClass: MDP Blocked]|[X-SBClass: Spam]|[X-SBClass: Bulk]' location "Kludges" MDP presence "Yes". Thanks for the tip. I set it up as you suggested. Here's a copy of the string right out of the 'strings' box: '[X-SBClass: Blocked]|[X-SBClass: Spam]|[X-SBClass: Bulk]' I had the unfortunate opportunity to test it on a message, containing the following headers (not a complete list of headers): X-SBRule: Pattern Match (Money) (Score: 3800) X-SBRule: Pattern Match (Work From Home) (Score: 800) X-SBRule: Pattern Match (Other Patterns) (Score: 1525) X-SBRule: Pattern Match (Spam Phone #) (Score: 1200) X-SBClass: Blocked ^^ The message was not sent to the spam folder, as I had hoped, even though it should have a match. Might I need additional parenthesis, or is there another reason this is not working? Is the : a special character, perhaps? When this problem is sorted out, any chance to get something like that in the docs, Faq or as standard installed... Thanks for your help, ztradermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
Hello ztrader, On Monday, August 28, 2000 at 07:40:48 GMT -0700 (which was 7:40 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: For a simple OR function, would we have: '[str A]|[str B]' I think you may be getting confused here. You don't need the apostrophes or the square brackets. Just type your strings in. This is why I think the | method for ORing to strings can be ambiguous. is it OK to put spaces outside brackets as: ' [str A] | [str B] ' I'm not sure about the spaces. Again, this is another reason I find the | method to be ambiguous. (I understand the ' chr is needed - true?) False. z This might be the best example to show how complex notation goes in z TB: z (A or B or (C and D and (E or F)))? The problem I see here is getting AND and OR to work in a *single* expression. How does one do that? Is it possible to write the above as a single, one-line expression? As far as I know, no. In a *single* string set, you could only do the C and D and (E or F). See my example in a previous post to this thread. The suggeston for implementing this split up the parts into simple strings that could be entered as AND's or OR's. If one has an expression that needs an AND or an OR *within* the string, Just be careful here. You can not have a single string that says something like, (Tom or Jane) Doe Instead you would need to break it up into either Tom|Jane AND Doe or Tom Doe|Jane Doe it seems critical to have exactly the right characters ['",etc to make it work. I am trying to understand how to include these chrs correctly so it works. See above. Also, I see a box marked "Regular expressions" in the "options" section. Does this have to be checked to get any complex expressions to work? Nope. Regular expressions are complex, but they are much different than the "simple" search strings you've been looking for. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On 28 August 2000 at 12:26:37 GMT -0700 (which was 20:26 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Spam filter strings?": For a simple OR function, would we have: '[str A]|[str B]' JA I think you may be getting confused here. You don't need the JA apostrophes or the square brackets. Just type your strings in. JA This is why I think the | method for ORing to strings can be JA ambiguous. .. or you do. The help is also ambiguous here. Square brackets are used to delimit contiguous strings. Apostrophes are supposed to be used to delimited complete arguments which contain special characters. It all adds to the ambiguity. is it OK to put spaces outside brackets as: ' [str A] | [str B] ' JA I'm not sure about the spaces. Again, this is another reason I find JA the | method to be ambiguous. I am pretty sure about the spaces - they'll mess it up for sure - especially when used in conjunction with apostrophes and square brackets. (I understand the ' chr is needed - true?) JA False. ... or true, depending which bit of the Help file you're reading. z (A or B or (C and D and (E or F)))? The problem I see here is getting AND and OR to work in a *single* expression. How does one do that? Is it possible to write the above as a single, one-line expression? JA As far as I know, no. In a *single* string set, you could only do the JA C and D and (E or F). See my example in a previous post to this JA thread. Absolutely. ZTrader - Januk's example was *crystal* clear on this point. The suggeston for implementing this split up the parts into simple strings that could be entered as AND's or OR's. If one has an expression that needs an AND or an OR *within* the string, JA Just be careful here. You can not have a single string that says JA something like, JA (Tom or Jane) Doe JA Instead you would need to break it up into either JA Tom|Jane AND Doe JA or JA Tom Doe|Jane Doe ... which could end up as [Tom Doe]|[Jane Doe]. it seems critical to have exactly the right characters ['",etc to make it work. I am trying to understand how to include these chrs correctly so it works. JA See above. .. or refer to the "Help" references on 'Using special syntax in signal strings'. For the sake of clarity, here is some of the help text with the salient points underlined: Pipe character | means that signal string contains two alternatives. For example, string John|Jack means that search will ^ be successful if John or Jack (or both) will be found in the specified location. Square brackets [ ] mean that text embraced by them must be searched as a phrase. i.e. search for [Jack] will be successful for sentence Jack is a good man, but not for Jackson guitars are very good for beginners. Text embraced in quotation marks is case-sensitive, i.e. Internet will be found in the sentence The Internet is growing very rapidly but not in InTeRnEt RuLeZ The text containing special characters mentioned above, must be ^^^ embraced in single quotes, like this: ["New" generation mailing ^^^ list] - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him...is he still wrong? TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOarDYjnkJKuSnc2gEQIIigCgnAlZTAOSF0S4Kkp5mw+opKKaXGkAoOrQ LJVk0JtdQeQT0+HeCYVgyvm+ =o7uG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ztrader, On 27 August 2000 at 06:32:01 GMT -0700 (which was 14:32 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Spam filter strings?": JA I think your filter string is probably to blame here. I find JA using the pipe symbol for OR is ambiguous. z Are you suggesting that it does not work as an OR, or is there z something wrong with the string I was using? I never use it myself - it's very hard to get it to work right. JA Try the following: JA String Location Presence JA X-SBClass: Blocked Kludges Yes JA Then click on the Alternative tab and click on Add Set z Perhaps I was confused by reading help. I thought adding another set z implied an AND function, as per the example in help. I note that there z are two places to put in multiple strings, though. Is the z 'Alternatives' section an implied OR for the sets? Exactly. z If so, what is done if there are multiple strings in *both* sections? z How are the multiple ANDs and ORs combined? Use the "Add" button on the front page to add "AND" strings. Use the Alternatives page and the "Add set" button to add "OR" strings. To have "AND" tests /within/ an "OR" additional set, use Alt-Ins Clear? Probably not! ;-). - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOakcmDnkJKuSnc2gEQKfdwCgxpKuQaLCwWgrdhpj65Az++J1zJwAoMN2 BYVraHq+BeoxFO5MuzvBmwqS =FArV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ztrader, On 27 August 2000 at 07:44:08 GMT -0700 (which was 15:44 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Spam filter strings?": MDP Exactly. z OK - got that :-). Might be worth a mention in the help file. The help file is another issue. Sometimes it gets updated, sometimes it doesn't. The main help for TB is right here on the UDL. MDP To have "AND" tests /within/ an "OR" additional set, use MDP Alt-Ins MDP Clear? Probably not! ;-). z Still a bit of fog here. Are you suggesting that I can make a z construct like: z (A or B or (C and D and (E or F)))? z If so, I'm a bit hazy (that fog again :-) on how to do it. Well, 'A' is a simple test on the main filter page, 'B' is the first Alternative set while the second alternative set is far more complex containing three match strings (added with Alt-Ins) of which the third is a composite string with the '|' (pipe) character to create the '(E or F)' condition - if you can make it work! I would say that once a filter gets that complex I would tend to make two simpler filters that work in sequence to do the whole job. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Headline - Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOaktZDnkJKuSnc2gEQJiBgCghtmPYEEs344KKSsD/cMKaNSTv44Anjnx rAgoLuxshaU22QH8jgbHTFQf =SxuJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
Hallo ztrader,
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 07:44:08 -0700 GMT (27/08/2000, 22:44 +0800 GMT),
ztrader wrote:
z OK - got that :-). Might be worth a mention in the help file.
Yep.
z Still a bit of fog here. Are you suggesting that I can make a
z construct like:
z (A or B or (C and D and (E or F)))?
No need to get acquainted with good old George Boole:
- All the conditions you "add" on the first tab ("rule") are "AND" to
the fist condition.
- All the conditions you 'add" on the second tab ("alternatives") are
"OR" to all other conditions, including the ones in the first tab and
each others.
... and the interface design is unclear. I'm thinking about
suggestions how to improve that. Any ideas?
--
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Re: Spam filter strings?
Hallo Marck, On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:01:49 +0100 GMT (27/08/2000, 23:01 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP Well, 'A' is a simple test on the main filter page, 'B' is the first MDP Alternative set while the second alternative set is far more complex MDP containing three match strings (added with Alt-Ins) of which the third MDP is a composite string with the '|' (pipe) character to create the '(E MDP or F)' condition - if you can make it work! Sorry... could you translate this into English? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
Hi ztrader Marck, z Still a bit of fog here. Are you suggesting that I can make a z construct like: z (A or B or (C and D and (E or F)))? Well, 'A' is a simple test on the main filter page, 'B' is the first Alternative set while the second alternative set is far more complex containing three match strings (added with Alt-Ins) of which the third is a composite string with the '|' (pipe) character to create the '(E or F)' condition - if you can make it work! If you really hate to use the '|' operator, or somehow '|' doesn't work (it always works here, so I use it all the time), you may parse the same condition to A or B or (C and D and E) or (C and D and F) and use four rule sets (1 primary plus 3 alternatives) to do it. I would say that once a filter gets that complex I would tend to make two simpler filters that work in sequence to do the whole job. I agree. It's usually easier to debug that way. BTW, nice to be back. The past week has been full of horror stories, one of which involves dealing with the cable company (ATT Cable Service) and the Internet over cable modem service provider (ISP Channel). I still haven't got my cable modem service, yet. :( Having used to ethernet connection for the past two years, dial-up modem connection is really killing me. Hope I can get my cable modem connection before the school begin (when the modem pool starts getting crowded). -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
Hello ztrader, On Sunday, August 27, 2000 at 18:38:27 GMT -0700 (which was 6:38 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Now that we've established that it is possible to have complex conditions in rules, it would be helpful to me to see exactly how it is implemented in TB, with all the necessary extra characters in just the right places. Sometimes a few good examples are worth a lot of words and emails :-). I'll give it a shot, but the filters don't really convert to plain text too well. So there will still be a few words... This might be the best example to show how complex notation goes in TB: z (A or B or (C and D and (E or F)))? Try the following: String Location Presence A Kludges Yes Then click on the Alternative tab and click on Add Set In the new set that is added, put the following String Location Presence B Kludges Yes Click Add set again, and make the new set read: String Location Presence C Kludges Yes D Kludges Yes E|FKludges Yes And this is good to show how multiple rules are made to interact: ML A or B or (C and D and E) or (C and D and F) ML and use four rule sets (1 primary plus 3 alternatives) to do it. String Location Presence A Kludges Yes Then click on the Alternative tab and click on Add Set In the new set that is added, put the following String Location Presence B Kludges Yes Click Add set again, and make the new set read: String Location Presence C Kludges Yes D Kludges Yes E Kludges Yes Click Add set again, and make the new set read: String Location Presence C Kludges Yes D Kludges Yes F Kludges Yes I would find these most helpful - and, hey, they might be good to put in the help file :-). Probably more confusing than what is currently there. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re: Spam filter strings?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 27.08.00: snip If you really hate to use the '|' operator, or somehow '|' doesn't work (it always works here, so I use it all the time), you may parse the same condition to I never got this '|' working properly. I tried everything what is described in the HLP-file: no effect ! Could you send me a hardcopy (private e-mail, please) of one of your "piped filters" as an example to figure out where the difference is ? snip BTW, nice to be back. Welcome back ! snipped Cheers Gerd Ewald (written @work, no TB! available, sorry !) ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ztrader, On 27 August 2000 at 16:50:50 GMT -0700 (which was 00:50 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Spam filter strings?": z I'm a bit unsure of the exact syntax TB needs. An example string z is: z [X-SBClass: Blocked | X-SBClass: Spam | X-SBClass: Bulk] z where one of the above may appear anywhere in the headers. Where do z I have to put which kind of quotes to get this to work as one of z the strings: z X-SBClass: Blocked OR X-SBClass: Spam OR X-SBClass: Bulk You have a choice of two (similar) ways. 1) Set up a filter which specifies a match string of '[X-SBClass: Blocked]|[X-SBClass: Spam]|[X-SBClass: Bulk]' location "Kludges" presence "Yes". The single quotes in the signal string are significant. 2) Set up a filter with a main and two alternatives for each of the signal strings, again for location Kludges. - - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOahddjnkJKuSnc2gEQKkGACeMu2jjwZcrTVL2jrmSJwTopNtCiMAoPKD wrZU3WpCIFdpM6WgL31ZzAkw =1usS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spam filter strings?
Hello ztrader, On Saturday, August 26, 2000 at 20:27:56 GMT -0700 (which was 8:27 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Thanks for the tip. I set it up as you suggested. Here's a copy of the string right out of the 'strings' box: '[X-SBClass: Blocked]|[X-SBClass: Spam]|[X-SBClass: Bulk]' snip example The message was not sent to the spam folder, as I had hoped, even though it should have a match. Might I need additional parenthesis, or is there another reason this is not working? Is the : a special character, perhaps? I think your filter string is probably to blame here. I find using the pipe symbol for OR is ambiguous. Try the following: String Location Presence X-SBClass: Blocked Kludges Yes Then click on the Alternative tab and click on Add Set In the new set that is added, put the following String Location Presence X-SBClass: SpamKludges Yes Click Add set again, and make the new set read: String Location Presence X-SBClass: BulkKludges Yes This is the least ambiguous way of getting what you need. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
