Re: Selective Download Filters
Hello Chris, Wednesday, August 1, 2007, 10:38:39 PM, you wrote: Or, perhaps there is a better way to do what I want to do... I have one real account [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two other account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor [EMAIL PROTECTED] have mailboxes that are checkable on a server somewhere; both are forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't want people to know the the message has been forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I though that I'd create three accounts and use selective download filters to ignore the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] messages when checking as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and select the appropriate messages for the other two accounts. At the moment, I have incoming filters for [EMAIL PROTECTED] the move the messages to the correct account. However, I have to write my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming filters in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confused yet? I am. Selective download filter for each account that reads: Recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The others will be left in the box to be collected by the other accounts. I am confused when you say the other accounts aren't checkable. This would mean you couldn't really send from that address either. Another way to handle your desire to keep account a hidden is to make a reply template that checks the recipient address (a, b, or c) and replies from the appropriate account. Just add %ACCOUNT=a, b, or c in the reply template. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filters
Hi On Thursday 2 August 2007 at 12:40:09 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Higby wrote: Selective download filter for each account that reads: Recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The others will be left in the box to be collected by the other accounts. Would this catch cc, bcc, or forwarded messages? I am confused when you say the other accounts aren't checkable. This would mean you couldn't really send from that address either. Not necessarily. In addition to ISP email addresses, I own two domain names that I use for email and incoming mail for any username at either of those domains is all routed to one POP mailbox. Another way to handle your desire to keep account a hidden is to make a reply template that checks the recipient address (a, b, or c) and replies from the appropriate account. Just add %ACCOUNT=a, b, or c in the reply template. My solution is for one account in TB to download all mail from the POP mailbox for my two domains. Incoming mail filters direct the messages to folders in the relevant TB accounts. This means replies are from the correct account. It also sounds more efficient to filter the mail just once. -- Best regards, MFPA It's better to feed one cat than many mice Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filters
Hi On Wednesday 1 August 2007 at 11:38:39 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris W. wrote: At the moment, I have incoming filters for [EMAIL PROTECTED] the move the messages to the correct account. That's how I do it. However, I have to write my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming filters in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Really? I am able to use common filters, rather than putting them under the wrong account. Also, I thought that if you filter to an account's inbox the messages were then checked against that account's incoming mail filters. Is this incorrect? -- Best regards, MFPA I would like to help you out. Which way did you come in? Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filters
MFPA @ 2007-8-02 3:03:47 PM Selective Download Filters mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I have to write my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming filters in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I thought that if you filter to an account's inbox the messages were then checked against that account's incoming mail filters. Is this incorrect? I've committed a grave sin. I only assumed that things will work this way. I've not tested. When the case arises, I will test and, if I remember, report back. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Is reading in the bathroom considered multitasking? pgp1rZEKKs41m.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filters
Doug Higby @ 2007-8-02 7:40:09 AM Selective Download Filters mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Selective download filter for each account that reads: Recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Except the options are: * Kill * Ignore * Ignore and read None of these options imply Download this message. I am confused when you say the other accounts aren't checkable. This would mean you couldn't really send from that address either. They are real POP or IMAP mailboxes. They just forward to another account. I use the real account's SMTP server for sending, and that works just fine. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Sign in a London department store: BARGAIN BASEMENT UPSTAIRS pgpH71tmponlI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selective Download Filters
Is there anyway to use a selective download filter to select only those messages that I want downloaded. I can only see a way to select messages NOT to download. Or, perhaps there is a better way to do what I want to do... I have one real account [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two other account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor [EMAIL PROTECTED] have mailboxes that are checkable on a server somewhere; both are forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't want people to know the the message has been forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I though that I'd create three accounts and use selective download filters to ignore the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] messages when checking as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and select the appropriate messages for the other two accounts. At the moment, I have incoming filters for [EMAIL PROTECTED] the move the messages to the correct account. However, I have to write my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming filters in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confused yet? I am. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Taped live pgpdd2CrPowEy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Possible bug: selective download filters
Hi all, I have a selective download filter set to Ignore certain messages. I assumed that meant that the messages would stay on the server until I used the dispatcher to delete them. This isn't what is happening. Here's what does seems to be happening (I'm using a test account and sending messages to that account, so no other mail is interfering.): The messages are being filtered correctly. The log indicates the presence of a message in the mailbox. 2/12/2004, 11:36:12: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new 2/12/2004, 11:36:12: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received On the next check, the log indicates that the message is still there. 2/12/2004, 11:39:12: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new On the third check, the message is gone! 2/12/2004, 11:42:11: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new I've used the mail dispatcher to look at the e-mail in various stages without automatic checking. On first check, the e-mail is there with only the read flag checked. On the second dispatcher check, the read and *delete* flags are checked. *I wouldn't expect that the delete flag would be checked.* By the third dispatcher check, of course, the e-mail's been deleted because the flag was checked. My settings on the account are to Delete received messages from server. Since these aren't received messages, I wouldn't expect them to be deleted, whether through automatic checking or through the use of the dispatcher. I could, of course, use the Keep messages on server option. The messages aren't removed, but then no messages are removed. That defeats the purpose, IMHO, since the account I want to use the filter on gets a large amount of e-mail daily and I don't want to wade through all of the e-mail to find the ones that are ignored. I've read the help files, but there's not much guidance there. Is this behavior some kind of bug, or is this by design? I've also noticed that the results from the Selective Download filters (whether set to kill or ignore) don't appear in the log. Is this normal? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download filters
Hello Jurgen other TB! list members following this thread, On Monday, September 22, 2003 Jurgen responded to my saying the following: I link all accounts to the same text file, which I continue to lengthen whenever new Spam mongers are found. This is much easier that adding strings to each and every separate account. JH could you maybe share this file with me? I am going along the JH same line, and am always interested in catch-phrases :-) Sure - I assume you want it sent directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I probably have a couple of versions, since I haven't been transferring the strings added to the desktop computer's text file to the laptop and vice versa, and I can't recall if I added the strings that were put in each account's filter manager before deciding to do a .txt file But the main thing I wanted to say is that my most important filtering device is my eyeball, and I can spot extraneous unexpected mail rather quickly. One of the major clues is the size column, sine no virus is going to come in with a size like these messages have. For instance: I just manually killed two of Microsoft Patch viruses on the server, one of which said error message. It's also easy to notice that the one that said Microsoft didn't in fact come from Microsoft, as the headers showed. If the headers were correct, a friend of mine in Guadalajara has an infected computer, so I'll drop him a note to let him know. The Spam file contains the usual words like mortgage, loan, viagra, and sex as well as the domains these things came from, but I can send it on if you really think it will do you any good. The beauty of the Mail Dispatcher is the fact that I can review and rectify all that comes in, so that some things marked for deletion are downloaded, and some things marked for downloading are deleted. In general however, the selective download filter and Spam.txt file save me some time. This is why I hesitate to use a service that figures out these things for me. I want to use my own judgement in real time. For instance, I just downloaded one of those things from Africa asking for help getting X millions of dollars out of the country, just because it was so ingeniously written. (Obviously, I have no intention on following through on that though, and I get lots of these scams that are killed on the server). -- Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download filters
Jurgen, I sent the following to TBUDL twice earlier and yet it hasn't been posted. I wonder why. Two other posts I sent were posted, so I'm not being blocked out. Maybe if you redirect it, it will go through. Douglas Hello Jurgen other TB! list members following this thread, On Monday, September 22, 2003 Jurgen responded to my saying the following: I link all accounts to the same text file, which I continue to lengthen whenever new Spam mongers are found. This is much easier that adding strings to each and every separate account. JH could you maybe share this file with me? I am going along the JH same line, and am always interested in catch-phrases :-) Sure - I assume you want it sent directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I probably have a couple of versions, since I haven't been transferring the strings added to the desktop computer's text file to the laptop and vice versa, and I can't recall if I added the strings that were put in each account's filter manager before deciding to do a .txt file But the main thing I wanted to say is that my most important filtering device is my eyeball, and I can spot extraneous unexpected mail rather quickly. One of the major clues is the size column, sine no virus is going to come in with a size like these messages have. For instance: I just manually killed two of Microsoft Patch viruses on the server, one of which said error message. It's also easy to notice that the one that said Microsoft didn't in fact come from Microsoft, as the headers showed. If the headers were correct, a friend of mine in Guadalajara has an infected computer, so I'll drop him a note to let him know. The Spam file contains the usual words like mortgage, loan, viagra, and sex as well as the domains these things came from, but I can send it on if you really think it will do you any good. The beauty of the Mail Dispatcher is the fact that I can review and rectify all that comes in, so that some things marked for deletion are downloaded, and some things marked for downloading are deleted. In general however, the selective download filter and Spam.txt file save me some time. This is why I hesitate to use a service that figures out these things for me. I want to use my own judgement in real time. For instance, I just downloaded one of those things from Africa asking for help getting X millions of dollars out of the country, just because it was so ingeniously written. (Obviously, I have no intention on following through on that though, and I get lots of these scams that are killed on the server). -- Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download filters
Rob wrote: what did you put in 'Detect by' on the 'Rule' tab ?? i'm using a text-file with a bunch of subject-lines used by daemons to bounce mail, to kill replies to non-existing addresses on my account by flagging 'subject' and it works like a charm ... 'Detect by' is set to 'Entire header' In your text file, are your subject lines formatted in any way (quotes, brackets, etc.)? Are they each on a new line? -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download filters
A-ha!! Saw another thread that mentioned filters not working with IMAP. I just tested my Spamkill Selective download on my one POP account and it worked. I guess that makes - IMAP filters are usually done at the server, correct? I guess I need to decide if I should switch all account to POP3 or continue using IMAP and create a sorting rule that would delete unwanted messages from the server. Hmmm any recommendations? -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download filters
Hello ken other TB! list members following this thread, On Sunday, September 21, 2003, you wrote: kg I guess I need to decide if I should switch all account to POP3 kg or continue using IMAP and create a sorting rule that would kg delete unwanted messages from the server. kg Hmmm any recommendations? I use POP3 on accounts and selective download exclusively with the mail dispatcher, which I set to download 25 lines. That way, Selective Download will filter on anything contained in that number of lines and you can review all that's occurring in order to make any changes you feel are appropriate regarding what will and what won't be downloaded. I link all accounts to the same text file, which I continue to lengthen whenever new Spam mongers are found. This is much easier that adding strings to each and every separate account. -- Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selective download filters
Hello TBUDL, After getting about 200 Sven worm type emails a day, I would like to know if the selective download filter is case sensitive. Is the string this is a string the same as This Is a String as far as the filter is concerned? -- Best regards, Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I'm an incorrigible punster, so don't corrige me! http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 'To see a world in a grain of sand And heaven in a wild flower To hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour' Using TheBat! Version 2.00.6 Running On Windows XP (2600, Service Pack 1) Sent From OneAndOne pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download filters
Hello Michael, On Saturday, September 20, 2003, 6:16:54 PM, you wrote: After getting about 200 Sven worm type emails a day, I would like to know if the selective download filter is case sensitive. Is the string this is a string the same as This Is a String as far as the filter is concerned? What strings are you using? There seem to be a huge number of options. For one brief period they were arriving faster than I could delete them, but almost all to an address I've hardly ever used -- my mail address at my broadband ISP, half a world away from my mail host for my domain name where I've only had (so far) about six. First thing today there were nearly 400 in my mail at the local ISP and no other messages at all (not even any other spam!) However that does make it easy to use message dispatcher. -- Gordon Woolf The Worsley Press Hastings, Victoria, Australia www.worsleypress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Book: Success in Store - How to Start or Buy a Retail Business, Enjoy Running It and Make Money Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download filters
Hello Gordon, On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, at 18:38:07 [GMT +1000] (which was 09:38 in my TimeZone) you wrote: GW Hello Michael, GW On Saturday, September 20, 2003, 6:16:54 PM, you wrote: After getting about 200 Sven worm type emails a day, I would like to know if the selective download filter is case sensitive. Is the string this is a string the same as This Is a String as far as the filter is concerned? GW What strings are you using? There seem to be a huge number of options. GW For one brief period they were arriving faster than I could delete GW them, but almost all to an address I've hardly ever used -- my mail GW address at my broadband ISP, half a world away from my mail host for GW my domain name where I've only had (so far) about six. First thing GW today there were nearly 400 in my mail at the local ISP and no other GW messages at all (not even any other spam!) GW However that does make it easy to use message dispatcher. Just going through the long list of actual messages and creating a list. They dont appear random, but they do share a set of names that are more prevelent than others. -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 If marriage were outlawed, only outlaws would have in-laws. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download filters
Michael Thompson wrote: Is the string this is a string the same as This Is a String as far as the filter is concerned? Not sure about Selective download (see my troubles below), but in general, any kind of filtering is usually case-sensitive - especially if enclosed in quotes. (and regex is case-sensitive) I can't get Selective download to work. I would greatly appreciate anyone's help on this. I'm starting to wonder if a 'regular' filter that deleted items off the server would be a better option for me. I have a list of e-mail addresses and domains that I'd like to Kill (never download, delete from the server). In the Selective Download folder of Sorting Office, I created a filter rule called SpamKill. I have tried entering the list of addresses in the signal strings box, as well as using a text file and checking 'load signal strings from a file' - in both cases, each address/domain was listed on a new line, and the Advanced tab options were: Action: Kill and Detection method: Any strings match. But I can't get this to work. According the help system, Selective download signal strings do not allow the special syntax used by other types of filters. How are people getting Selective Download to work? Does each string need to be in quotes or something? Should the signal strings be comma-delimited? I feel like I'm missing something terribly obvious. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting signal strings in a file to work in Selective Download filters
Dear TBUDL, I'm trying to get a selective download rule to work with signal strings loaded from a file. The rule looks like: Rule tab: Name = Approved senders Detect by = Originator Signal strings = (empty) Rule is: Active = checked Manual only = unchecked Advanced tab: Action = Kill Detection method = None of strings should match Load signal strings from the file = checked filename box names an existing file (selected by browsing) The signal strings file is formatted like: v--column 1 string1 string2 ... etc When I used to put all the strings in the signal strings box on the Rule tab, the rule would mark for retrieval only messages from people matching entries the list. Will someone put me out of my misery and tell me what I did wrong? The help's a little sketchy on what should go in the signal strings file. -- Warmest human regards, Tim Magee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
