Re: Superscript character in a word?
Title: Re: Superscript character in a word? Hi Stuart, On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:27:13 AM you wrote: Hello Maggie, Thursday, March 11, 2021, 9:58:14 AM, you wrote: Are you talking about in the customise toolbar menu? I did not see this choice. Go to View/Toolbars/Advanced Formatting in the menu when editing an email in HTML. I'm afraid that the problem must lie with my version. I don't have an Advanced Formatting choice, only Lock Toolbars and Customize. -- Regards, Maggie In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt. ~Margaret Atwood Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Title: Re: Superscript character in a word? Hello Maggie, Thursday, March 11, 2021, 9:58:14 AM, you wrote: Are you talking about in the customise toolbar menu? I did not see this choice. Go to View/Toolbars/Advanced Formatting in the menu when editing an email in HTML. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm using: TheBat! 9.3.3 64 on Windows 10.0 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Hi David, On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 10:54:02 AM you wrote: F> Hello Maggie, F> Thursday, March 11, 2021, 3:08:39 PM, you wrote: F> Hi Christopher, F> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:56:28 AM you wrote: CW>> On 2021-03-10 at 1:49 PM, Maggie Meister wrote: >>> In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to >>> type a superscript character, F> Not sure if this has been mentioned. On my version of TB F> (8.7) when using the mail message window, under View you can F> enable HTML toolbars then any character can be sub/super scripted. Thanks, but it doesn't seem to be there in v. 7.00.56, or I am looking in the wrong place. I brought up a blank email, clicked on View|Toolbars|Customize ~now I'm on shaky ground~ in the layout pane I click on Format?? I don't see superscript anywhere in this. -- Best regards, Maggie "One of the most effective means of temptation that Evil possesses is the challenge to struggle against it." -Kafka Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Title: Re: Superscript character in a word? Hi Stuart, On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:04:41 AM you wrote: Hello Maggie, Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 8:04:11 PM, you wrote: Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Where in the HTML editor did you find it? Sorry I sent a screenshot last night but it must have been too large. Yes, it didn't come through here. Under the menu bar that has bold, italics etc there is another menu that has X2 for superscript and X2 for subscript. Are you talking about in the customise toolbar menu? I did not see this choice. Thanks for your help, Stuart, trying to function in html is earthquaking for me - I long to do this in plain text. -- Kind regards, Maggie Spring has returned. The Earth is like a child that knows poems. ~Rainer Maria Rilke Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Hello Maggie, Thursday, March 11, 2021, 3:08:39 PM, you wrote: Hi Christopher, On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:56:28 AM you wrote: CW> On 2021-03-10 at 1:49 PM, Maggie Meister wrote: >> In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to >> type a superscript character, CW> If all you need are the ordinal indicators º and ª, these exist as dedicated CW> Unicode characters: no HTML needed. I copied/pasted these from the Wikipedia CW> article on the orginal indicator [1]. Thanks Christopher, but it's usually the 'a' that needs to be superscripted from what I understand. For instance, you can see (even in the old records) Ma where the 'a' is superscripted. This is an abbreviation of the name, Maria. In the case of Profa, the abbreviation would be to indicate that the PhD graduate is a female. This is found in salutations of more formal correspondence, again as I understand it. Learning is happening. Pointing out the degree symbol is also handy for different reasons. Thanks again. -- Regards, Maggie “When you least expect it, someone may actually listen to what you have to say.” -Maggie Kuhn Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Not sure if this has been mentioned. On my version of TB (8.7) when using the mail message window, under View you can enable HTML toolbars then any character can be sub/super scripted. David -- Best regards, David imap Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Title: Re: Superscript character in a word? Hi Christopher, On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:56:28 AM you wrote: CW> On 2021-03-10 at 1:49 PM, Maggie Meister <mag...@leelehman.com> wrote: >> In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to >> type a superscript character, CW> If all you need are the ordinal indicators º and ª, these exist as dedicated CW> Unicode characters: no HTML needed. I copied/pasted these from the Wikipedia CW> article on the orginal indicator [1]. Thanks Christopher, but it's usually the 'a' that needs to be superscripted from what I understand. For instance, you can see (even in the old records) Ma where the 'a' is superscripted. This is an abbreviation of the name, Maria. In the case of Profa, the abbreviation would be to indicate that the PhD graduate is a female. This is found in salutations of more formal correspondence, again as I understand it. Learning is happening. Pointing out the degree symbol is also handy for different reasons. Thanks again. -- Regards, Maggie “When you least expect it, someone may actually listen to what you have to say.” -Maggie Kuhn Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Title: Re: Superscript character in a word? Hello Maggie, Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 8:04:11 PM, you wrote: Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Where in the HTML editor did you find it? Sorry I sent a screenshot last night but it must have been too large. Under the menu bar that has bold, italics etc there is another menu that has X2 for superscript and X2 for subscript. There is also an insert symbol in both the HTML editor and test editor that should work, but it seems to be a bit messed up. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm using: TheBat! 9.3.3 64 on Windows 10.0 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
On 2021-03-10 at 1:49 PM, Maggie Meister wrote: > In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to > type a superscript character, such as Profa. or Ma where the 'a' is > superscripted. To illustrate, I've pasted from a wp document into a blank > email with my default editor changed from PlainText (MicroEd) to HTML > Alternative with Plain Text Part in order to be able to paste the above > examples successfully, but it's kludgy. Is there an easier way to > accomplish this? If all you need are the ordinal indicators º and ª, these exist as dedicated Unicode characters: no HTML needed. I copied/pasted these from the Wikipedia article on the orginal indicator [1]. There's nothing for longer sequences like "st" or "ora" in Unicode, so if you want to stick to plain text, you'll need to use something else. In English, one sees things like 1st or 1^st or 1^{st}. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_indicator -- Christopher Warrington Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Title: Re: Superscript character in a word? Hi Stuart, On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:26:19 PM you wrote: Are you looking for this? Aaa There is a superscript button in the HTML editor. Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Where in the HTML editor did you find it? -- Regards, Maggie First a howling blizzard woke us, Then the rain came down to soak us, And now before the eye can focus —Crocus! ~Lilja Rogers Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Hello Maggie, Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 3:49:35 PM, you wrote: In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to type a superscript character, such as Profa. or Ma where the 'a' is superscripted. To illustrate, I've pasted from a wp document into a blank email with my default editor changed from PlainText (MicroEd) to HTML Alternative with Plain Text Part in order to be able to paste the above examples successfully, but it's kludgy. Is there an easier way to accomplish this? Are you looking for this? Aaa There is a superscript button in the HTML editor. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm using: TheBat! 9.3.3 64 on Windows 10.0 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Superscript character in a word?
Hi Bats, On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:49:35 PM you wrote: In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to type a superscript character, such as Profa. or Ma Whoops! I see it didn't send correctly, even though it was superscripted on my screen. Sorry! -- Regards, Maggie Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Superscript character in a word?
Hello Bats, In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to type a superscript character, such as Profa. or Ma where the 'a' is superscripted. To illustrate, I've pasted from a wp document into a blank email with my default editor changed from PlainText (MicroEd) to HTML Alternative with Plain Text Part in order to be able to paste the above examples successfully, but it's kludgy. Is there an easier way to accomplish this? Thanks in advance. (with apologies to MPFA if this is a cookie I've ripped from you.) :-) -- Kind regards, Maggie I believe that if you don’t change your views as you learn new facts, then many of the facts you believe probably aren’t facts. George T. Conway III Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Editor profile when the character set is "Auto"
Hi When I am composing replies, the Character Set is often shown as "Auto". When this is the case, TB! uses the "Generic" editor profile instead of the one I have set up to be used with all character sets. I know I can work around this by setting the character set in my templates with the %charset macro, or I could edit the Generic profile to be the same as my other profile. But I was wondering is there a way to specify which editor profile to use when the character set is "Auto"? -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> An obstinate man does not hold opinions. They hold him. Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows 10.0 Build 10586 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Character sets
I just had a phishing attempt and wanted to forward it to PayPal. When I went to send it, I got this: --- Edit Mail Message - sp...@paypal.com --- The message characters that cannot be encoded using currently selected Windows-1252 character set. Please use Windows-1250. --- OK --- How do I select the right character set, please? If I'm in the message editor and hit Options - Character set I get plenty of options, but nothing I recognise as Windows-1250. -- Thanks in anticipation, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.4.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Character sets
Hi On Friday 2 May 2014 at 8:32:38 PM, in mid:216341657.20140502203...@theluminousvoid.plus.com, Robert Bull wrote: How do I select the right character set, please? If I'm in the message editor and hit Options - Character set I get plenty of options, but nothing I recognise as Windows-1250. It is under Options | Preferemces | Other Options | Character Sets (XLAT) You will have ticks in some of the boxes, and hopefully those correspond to the descriptions you get to choose from when you hit Options | Character Set. Windows-1250 is described as Central European (Windows) here. But does it not work if you select Unicode (UTF-8)? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Character sets
On Friday, May 2, 2014, 9:02:07 PM, MFPA wrote: How do I select the right character set, please? If Options | Preferemces | Other Options | Character Sets (XLAT) You will have ticks in some of the boxes, and hopefully those correspond to the descriptions you get to choose from when you hit Options | Character Set. Windows-1250 is described as Central European (Windows) here. Yes! Clearly visible. Many thanks. I was only looking at Options under the message forwarding screen, not Options from TB's main window. But does it not work if you select Unicode (UTF-8)? Yes! I didn't think to try that before, but as it worked, didn't (this time) need to check Windows-1250 after all. Many thanks, especially for your speedy response. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.4.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Change Character at Beginning of Reply Line
Is there a way to change the character at the beginning of a reply line ()? Perhaps disable it or use a different character? -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change Character at Beginning of Reply Line
Hello Mike, A reminder of what Mike Dillinger typed on: Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 17:31:57 GMT -0700 MD Is there a way to change the character at the beginning of a MD reply line ()? Perhaps disable it or use a different character? I'm not aware of being able to change the sign, but you can show the persons name or initials as I have here. If you go to Account/Properties/Templates/Reply/Sender Information Used for Quotation. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.04 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: character sets in MicroEd?
Hi Thomas! On Sunday, September 4, 2005, 9:53:45 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF It thought there was a macro to change the charset (and you could use TF it in conjunction with IF and OCHARSET), but I cannot find that macro TF in the help right now. Ah, good idea! That does indeed work, I put: %IF:%OCharset=gb2312:%Charset=us-ascii in my reply templates, and it works just fine (using 3.60.7). Thanks for the suggestion! - Paul -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Paul A. |NCBI / NIH Thiessen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello aam, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 06:04:02 +0200 GMT (05/09/2005, 11:04 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aas Are you sure a macro like %OCharset exists, Thomas? I can't see aas anything like that here in 2.12. It's in my help file, and it works for Paul. However, I am not sure it was already present in v2.12. -- Cheers, Thomas. Trees that grow in smoggy cities are needed to make carbon paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello Paul, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 07:56:10 -0400 GMT (05/09/2005, 18:56 +0700 GMT), Paul A. Thiessen wrote: PAT in my reply templates, and it works just fine (using 3.60.7). Thanks for PAT the suggestion! Glad I could help. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Is there another word for synonym? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
character sets in MicroEd?
Hi! I'm using TB! 3.60.07, and am having a problem with character sets. I get e-mail from a particular person in HTML in chinese simplified (gb2312), although it's English correspondence (dunno why he has his e-mail set that way...). I can view the e-mails just fine, but when I reply to his messages, the character set displayed in the editor (microed) is all messed up, squashed together. I can fix this by manually switching to a different character set, but I have to do this each time I respond to an e-mail like this. How do I tell TB! to never use this set? I've unchecked it from the XLAT table in the preferences, but that only seems to serve to not put that font in the character set pull-down menu. Is there some way to tell TB! never to use this particular encoding in MicroEd? TIA, - Paul -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Paul A. |NCBI / NIH Thiessen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello Paul! On Sunday, September 04, 2005, 2:57 PM, you wrote: Hi! I'm using TB! 3.60.07, and am having a problem with character sets. ... HTML in chinese simplified (gb2312),... when I reply to his messages, the character set displayed in the editor (microed) is all messed up, squashed together. ... Is there some way to tell TB! never to use this particular encoding in MicroEd? I don't think there's a way to choose. However, the problem may have been addressed (or fixed) in a subsequent beta. I've run a search, but I can't find anything specific about it in the change logs. I do know that the problems of replying in HTML are being addressed. Would you consider signing up as a beta tester and running the current beta, 3.61.02? It's running reliably and stably for me, with no problems. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.61.02 beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: character sets in MicroEd?
Hi Mary! MB Would you consider signing up as a beta tester and running the current MB beta, 3.61.02? It's running reliably and stably for me, with no MB problems. Thanks for the tip, and I tried 3.61.2, but the behaviour is the same. Note that I'm composing in plain text/MicroEd mode, not HTML. In HTML mode the fonts are okay, but in microed mode it's messed up. - Paul -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Paul A. |NCBI / NIH Thiessen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello Paul! On Sunday, September 04, 2005, 5:13 PM, you wrote: MB Would you consider signing up as a beta tester and running the current MB beta, 3.61.02? It's running reliably and stably for me, with no MB problems. Thanks for the tip, and I tried 3.61.2, but the behaviour is the same. Note that I'm composing in plain text/MicroEd mode, not HTML. In HTML mode the fonts are okay, but in microed mode it's messed up. I know. Without HTML in the mix, in an earlier beta, I was having problems with MicroEd in its choice of charsets and was having to set them manually in order to reply using MicroEd. That was fixed. Occasionally RitLabs will fix something and not log it. So I was hoping this was fixed. They are working on Unicode and charsets among their main focuses as they develop their new interface for TB! further. I suggest that you write an issue report about this in Bug Tracker. Do you have an account there? If not, go here, and you can register as a BT reporter: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.61.02 beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello Paul, On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:57:08 -0400 GMT (05/09/2005, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Paul A. Thiessen wrote: PAT Hi! I'm using TB! 3.60.07, and am having a problem with character sets. I PAT get e-mail from a particular person in HTML in chinese simplified (gb2312), PAT although it's English correspondence (dunno why he has his e-mail set that PAT way...). I can view the e-mails just fine, but when I reply to his PAT messages, the character set displayed in the editor (microed) is all messed PAT up, squashed together. TB will use the charset of the incoming messages for replies, and that is as designed. You have the choice of downloading a font for that charset in which the Latin characters please your eye, or you need to manually change it. It thought there was a macro to change the charset (and you could use it in conjunction with IF and OCHARSET), but I cannot find that macro in the help right now. I get messages in GB2312 and Big5 and don't consider the font a problem - much better than UTF8, which triggers my Thai font and the Latin characters look ugly. I am still waiting for the plain-text viewer to interpret UTF. -- Cheers, Thomas. If you don't like the news, go out and make some. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello Mary, On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:30:28 -0500 GMT (05/09/2005, 03:30 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB Would you consider signing up as a beta tester and running the current MB beta, 3.61.02? This is not a beta issue... -- Cheers, Thomas. Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
A Bat-fellow, Thomas Fernandez, wrote on Monday, 5th September 2005 at 08:53:45 (GMT +0700), which was 3:53 a.m. in Bratislava, Slovakia -- I thought there was a macro to change the charset (and you could use it in conjunction with IF and OCHARSET), but I cannot find that macro in the help right now. %Charset=ISO-8859-1 Are you sure a macro like %OCharset exists, Thomas? I can't see anything like that here in 2.12. If it does exist, might the correct syntax for Paul's purposes be the following? %IF:%OCharset=gb2312:%Charset='ISO-8859-1' -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 amd athlon 2400 mhz 704 mb ram] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
C The problem is Word. It is replacing your straight quotes with what it C call smart quotes. C These are the English menu options, so in French they are probably C phrased differently: C Go to Tools/AutoCorrect Options C Go to the AutoFormat As You Type Tab C Uncheck Replace straight quotes with smart quotes Thanks, you find the problem. Word is replacing my quote ! But if I uncheck this option, it solves the problem of simple curved quote, but I will lost double quote as « » that will be replaced by . And in french, it's not correct... It's a shame that Word doesn't propose 2 check boxes instead of 1 for simple and double quote... When I paste the text in the subject, problem occurs... I had to type the ' manually. C So, in French, a ' is not grammatically wrong? That was my original C question. I think it's not wrong. Just not very beautiful... I don't understand that Ritlabs says TB is French compatible and doesn't support so simple useful characters ! -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
W It's a shame that Word doesn't propose 2 check boxes instead of 1 for simple and double quote... And I don't understand that this problem occurs only since TB version 3.5 !!! I was waiting for personalized menus since months, and the day I can use these with TB3.5, I had to downgrade to TB3.01 because of compatibility problems with French standard characters ! -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
Hi On Sunday 12 June 2005 at 12:03:20 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], WilWilWil wrote: it solves the problem of simple curved quote, but I will lost double quote as « » that will be replaced by . And in french, it's not correct... Could you work around this by using Autocorrect options instead? E.g. replace (or) with « and with ». -- Best regards, MFPA Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
Hello, Since I use TB (2.12, and after, TB 3.01) I had no problem when I paste the french text below copy from winword in the header subject : Réponse à lannonce I will have to downgrade my TB to 3.01.33 because in TB 3.5 and 3.5.25, the quote character is replace by a bad character when I send the message. Sometimes replaced by a ?, sometime by a strange squares shape ... And recipient person receive a wrong subject, that is not so good for finding a job... This is very strange, because when I have a look on archive mails, more than 1000, all header with this character are well shown when I launch TB 3.01, and bad shown with 3.5 and 3.5.25 ! Bad shown, and bad sent !!! When I manually replace by keyboarding the character quote ' in the subject, it is well shown and sent ! What's wrong in this last version 3.5.25 of TB ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à lannonce
WilWilWil @ 2005-Jun-11 4:40:55 PM Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I will have to downgrade my TB to 3.01.33 because in TB 3.5 and 3.5.25, the quote character is replace by a bad character when I send the message. Sometimes replaced by a ?, sometime by a strange squares shape ... This probably shows my ignorance of French, but do you have to use the curled ? Could you instead use the straight '? This is not the right solution; that would involve proper Unicode support in both The Bat! and the recipient's client. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Would a fly without wings be called a walk? pgp0cYtpg0I5b.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
C This probably shows my ignorance of French, but do you have to use the C curled ? Could you instead use the straight '? C This is not the right solution; that would involve proper Unicode C support in both The Bat! and the recipient's client. I can't choose straight or curved '. I just use the AZERTY keyboard and use the ' on the key 4 (without shift key pushed) when I write my text in Winword... When I paste the text in the subject, problem occurs... I had to type the ' manually. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
WilWilWil @ 2005-Jun-11 5:19:47 PM Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't choose straight or curved '. I just use the AZERTY keyboard and use the ' on the key 4 (without shift key pushed) when I write my text in Winword... The problem is Word. It is replacing your straight quotes with what it call smart quotes. These are the English menu options, so in French they are probably phrased differently: Go to Tools/AutoCorrect Options Go to the AutoFormat As You Type Tab Uncheck Replace straight quotes with smart quotes When I paste the text in the subject, problem occurs... I had to type the ' manually. So, in French, a ' is not grammatically wrong? That was my original question. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once... pgpRWlItD6tRM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character set questions
Hallo rich, On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:06:40 -0500GMT (8-1-2005, 4:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG 1) Often, received messages do not properly display the ' character. RG Such as world⤙s Generally that happens when the sender uses a different charset than he specifies in the Content-Type: header. RG 2) In replies many times the quoted text drops characters so the words RG sometimes get stucktogether likethis. That could be related to the same problem. You mention 'often' and 'many times', is it always with messages from the same sender/group of senders? Do these messages have anything in common: language, originating program, HTML, whatever? -- Groetjes, Roelof Mistrust first impulses, they are always good. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgptgN89fH6qO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: character set questions)
Hallo rich, On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:06:40 -0500GMT (8-1-2005, 4:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG Thanks, all RG Rich RG RG Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: RG http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out rich. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows:(n.)3. The solution to a problem that didn't exist. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpQUR5kApytI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character madness
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:36:01 -0500, rich gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 odd things going on with my fonts, so where do I fix these? Welcome to the defective behaviour of TB! HTML viewer and editor. If things (features bugfixes) continue like they have in the last 2 years, you'll notice an increase in useless feaures and nagging bugs, but nothing will be fixed. Best practise: stick to plain text. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't View and Print out Chinese Character in HTML Viewer and via printer...
Hi All, I have using The Bat! for few years, and just upgrade it from version 1.42 to version 2.12... After the version upgrade, I can't view the HTML version and even print out message which are in Chinese... But I can view the message in Chinese in Plain Text version... I have try to change the default fonts of the HTML viewer to use Chiense fonts but it still not works.. Besides, I have try all the Kinds of Character set which inside The Bat (including Big5 character set) but none of them works.. The printout of the message which are in Chinese have the same problem... I have try to change to print-out-template to use Chinese Fonts, but also not work... The message body and even the FromName (which is the mail sender's name) if is in Chinese, I can't be printed out correctly. If the open the html file as a attachment which will then launch the browser to view that html document, then all characters are displayed correctly... And means the html document shouldn't contain any problem but Just The Bat! can't read it out correctly in the HTML viewer and can't print it our correctly too.. Of course of computer's OS is in Chinese language... How can I solve this problem?? Thanks Regards, Raymond Hui Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't View and Print out Chinese Character in HTML Viewer and via printer...
Hello Raymond, On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:35:25 +0800 GMT (02/08/2004, 15:35 +0700 GMT), Raymond Hui wrote: RH After the version upgrade, I can't view the HTML version and RH even print out message which are in Chinese... RH But I can view the message in Chinese in Plain Text version... Please send me a short PM in Chinese. I run a Big5-Windows98 and I'll run some tests. Please use simple words, my Chinese reading is not very good! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 7. To stop those creepy guys in Marketing from looking down your blouse. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't View and Print out Chinese Character in HTML Viewer and via printer...
Hi Thomas, The following are five chinese characters: ¤@ ¤G ¤T ¥| ¤ They are separated by one single space between each character. Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Raymond Hui Hello Raymond, On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:35:25 +0800 GMT (02/08/2004, 15:35 +0700 GMT), Raymond Hui wrote: RH After the version upgrade, I can't view the HTML version and RH even print out message which are in Chinese... RH But I can view the message in Chinese in Plain Text version... Please send me a short PM in Chinese. I run a Big5-Windows98 and I'll run some tests. Please use simple words, my Chinese reading is not very good! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 7. To stop those creepy guys in Marketing from looking down your blouse. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug?: TB! truncating lines exceeding 1010 characters (was: Re: Character Line Limit)
Mike Dillinger, [MD] wrote: I have some friends who send me long emails and don't believe in formatting or hitting enter to separate paragraphs. Yes. This is rather common. I think I've found a bug in The Bat! where it seems to truncate lines that are longer than 1,010 characters. I can't duplicate this problem. I just sent myself a test message that was a single line of text with 4231 characters. Not a character lost. Maybe it's a server problem? -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpCJcjgTxBIz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug?: TB! truncating lines exceeding 1010 characters (was: Re: Character Line Limit)
--- Original Message From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 04:34AM PDT Hi Allie, AM I can't duplicate this problem. I just sent myself a test message that AM was a single line of text with 4231 characters. Not a character lost. AM Maybe it's a server problem? I did some experimenting, and neither can I. The only thing I have noticed in the pattern is that all of the originating e-mails come from Hotmail. I guess perhaps they use some pattern to trigger something, but I can't figure out what it is. I even tried sending some mails from a Hotmail account and couldn't duplicate it. Thanks for your help. -- -MikeD Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Character Line Limit
Hello, I have some friends who send me long emails and don't believe in formatting or hitting enter to separate paragraphs. I think I've found a bug in The Bat! where it seems to truncate lines that are longer than 1,010 characters. I cut and paste the text into a couple of text counters that I found online to get that number. In addition, I left the mail messages that get truncated in my POP mailbox and I used pine to read them and they appear just fine (no truncation). Has anyone else seen this behavior? Should I file a bug? -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 to reply, quoted text unknown character
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 28, 2003, 1:14:40 PM, you wrote: TF What character set does TB choose in that case? I checked it out from composing window, option, message encoding = Chinese Simplified (GB-2312), option, message format= plain test (windows) TF I know that TB chooses the same character set for replies that it TF finds the original message was sent in. I suspect that this is not the TF case when you hit F4. Check it out and let us know. I tried to add %CHARSET=gb-2312 in my reply template to force the reply message using GB2312 encoding, but still cannot solve the problem... I am not sure whether it related to sender's text MIME encoding methods, I am trying to send myself some 8-bit, quoted printable and base64 test messages, and reply each of them to see any difference~~ TF PS: When you receive a mail in HTML/alternative and charset=GB2312, TF can you view the message in the HTML viewer? I receive a lot of such TF message but Big5 encoded and always have to hit F9 to see the text. Yes, I can see them in the preview pane, but all of them are wrongly formatted, and seems that it cannot auto-wrap very well, so I prefer to covert them into plain text or just open the source view window :D. -- best regards TK using The Bat! Version 2.02.3 CE on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 to reply, quoted text unknown character
Hello TKGG, On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:27:18 +0800 GMT (28/12/2003, 20:27 +0700 GMT), TKGG wrote: TF What character set does TB choose in that case? I checked it out from composing window, option, message encoding = Chinese Simplified (GB-2312), option, message format= plain test (windows) Looks correct to me. TF I know that TB chooses the same character set for replies that it TF finds the original message was sent in. I suspect that this is not the TF case when you hit F4. Check it out and let us know. I tried to add %CHARSET=gb-2312 in my reply template to force the reply message using GB2312 encoding, but still cannot solve the problem... But GB2312 is already being used, so that cannot be the problem. I am not sure whether it related to sender's text MIME encoding methods, I am trying to send myself some 8-bit, quoted printable and base64 test messages, and reply each of them to see any difference~~ It might have been an issue, but since you already tested this and can confirm that it has nothing to do with it, we can discard the idea. TF PS: When you receive a mail in HTML/alternative and charset=GB2312, TF can you view the message in the HTML viewer? I receive a lot of such TF message but Big5 encoded and always have to hit F9 to see the text. Yes, I can see them in the preview pane, but all of them are wrongly formatted, and seems that it cannot auto-wrap very well, Oh, I see only a blank page with a vertical blue line at the left margin. so I prefer to covert them into plain text or just open the source view window :D. That's what I have to do, too. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick-boxing. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
F4 to reply, quoted text unknown character
Hello List, Friends sent me mails with gb2312 Chinese character, when I highlight the text in preview pane and press F4 key to reply, all the quoted text became ?, unknown character~~ if I just press normal reply button, it works well, but I have to manually remove the unwanted text... I didn't encountered such problem in ver. 1.63... anyone could help, please? thanks a lot! -- best regards TK using The Bat! Version 2.02.3 CE on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 to reply, quoted text unknown character
Hello TKGG, On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:35:29 +0800 GMT (28/12/2003, 09:35 +0700 GMT), TKGG wrote: Friends sent me mails with gb2312 Chinese character, when I highlight the text in preview pane and press F4 key to reply, all the quoted text became ?, unknown character~~ What character set does TB choose in that case? if I just press normal reply button, it works well, but I have to manually remove the unwanted text... I know that TB chooses the same character set for replies that it finds the original message was sent in. I suspect that this is not the case when you hit F4. Check it out and let us know. PS: When you receive a mail in HTML/alternative and charset=GB2312, can you view the message in the HTML viewer? I receive a lot of such message but Big5 encoded and always have to hit F9 to see the text. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Ladies Little Mothers Club. All wishing to become little mothers, please see the minister in his study. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Hello Deborah, AltGr is a button which is found on European keyboards where you'd find one of the Alt buttons on North American keyboards. It acts as a second Alt button, allowing you to have a whole extra set of keyboard shortcuts. Actually it basically does the same that Alt+Ctrl keys hit together and the main use is to have 3 characters available on many keys. Take for example the 2 or E keys on a Spanish keyboard: 2 = 2 Shift+2 = AltGr+2 = @ E = e Shift+E = E AltGR+E = Cheers, -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Euro character
Hi Geoff, Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 (01:04 Uhr) hast Du in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben... On 24 July 2003, 18:50, Peter Kerekes wrote: I can get a number of off-key-characters using Altletter or AltShiftletters but not the euro. ~~~ ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font that includes the Euro by pressing AltGr+4 (which is how I produced the ?'s in this paragraph). what - in return - produces an empty black border rectangle unless the font you are using is support the ? character in it's font table. ;) Jan -- __ (..) _.o0( )0o.__ I went over to the neighbor's and asked to borrow a cup of salt. 'What are you making?' 'A salt lick.' (Steven Wright) Message created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 Windows XP 5.1-Service Pack 1 (Build 2600), Fujistu-Siemens AMILO D 7820, P4 2.53ghz, 512mb RAM, 40gb HD, ATI Mobility RADEON 9000 (64mb RAM), SIS 645 DX, ENE CB 1420, AC97 Cirrus CS4299 KQ, SIS 962 Southbridge smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
25-Jul-2003 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get a number of off-key-characters using Altletter or AltShiftletters but not the euro. ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font that includes the Euro by pressing AltGr+4 (which is how I produced the ?'s in this paragraph). I believe that depends on at least three different things: the keyboard layout, the used font, and the encoding. For example, the mentioned Courier New charset in Windows/Western encoding has the Euro symbol at offset 0x80 (hex). You can get the character by pressing (and holding) ALT, then typing (on the numeric pad, thats important) 0128. However, both the DOS/USA and DOS/Western encoding of the same charset don't have the Euro symbol at that offset. But - and I think thats one of the rare benefits of Windows :) you can still reach it with ALT+0128. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
On 25 July 2003, 09:30, Jan Oetjen wrote: what - in return - produces an empty black border rectangle unless the font you are using is support the ? character in it's font table. ;) ~~~ Just like other characters, the euro symbol is only available when the font includes it. All the Windows main fonts (arial, TNR, etc.) now have euro symbols, but you may need to update the fonts on your system to get that symbol. IIRC, you can get the update fonts from the Windows Update site. That said, I didn't tell the full story. AltGr+4 gives the euro symbol on my machine, but some need AltGr+e or another combination. The full story can be found at: https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/itsolutions/techsol/euro/symbol.asp HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 All I did was press this button and !$!(()%^%!... Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
On Friday, 25 July 2003, Alexander wrote: A the rare benefits of Windows :) you can still reach it with ALT+0128. Thanks. That works for me. (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) Can someone recommend a good online list of all the Alt+numeric codes? Occasionally I google for a specific character, but I never remember to bookmark whatever site I find. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
On Friday, 25 July 2003, Geoff Lane wrote: GL ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font that includes the Euro GL by pressing AltGr+4 What is AltGr? I can insert euro symbol in Word though InsertSymbol, but I've never found a keystroke that will do it in any application. Is there an Alt+0??? combination that will do it? -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
25-Jul-2003 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone recommend a good online list of all the Alt+numeric codes? Occasionally I google for a specific character, but I never remember to bookmark whatever site I find. Windows has a tool for that. Not very comfortable because searching is a manual task, but you can show all charsets in all possible encodings, and it will show you the ALT+x combinations. On WinNT/2k/XP it should be %SystemRoot%\System32\charmap.exe -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on Earth. -- Harry S. Truman Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
25-Jul-2003 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) Hmmm. On my keyboard, the Alt key is left of the SpaceBar, AltGr is right... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of dominant groups rather than to make men happy. (Bertrand Russel) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 T Thanks. That works for me. (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) On most PC keyboards, it's the Alt key on the right-hand side of the space bar. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... I like kids but I couldn't eat a whole one. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPyECadttnLhkydF1EQLHmwCg8mD4yYMEa+oEdhTVsy2CWPnC+vQAoJLy TlyuCbC+RwkBdzRRwHjDyGGD =5+Mf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
On Friday, 25 July 2003, Stuart Hemming wrote: T Thanks. That works for me. (But I still don't know what AltGr means.) SH On most PC keyboards, it's the Alt key on the right-hand side of the Define most keyboards. I did another Google search when I read this, and after limiting the search to English language, I found it is usually the right Alt key on European [some pages said 'international'] keyboards. Not much use to me in Australia (everyone assumes that, if we speak English, have dollars as currency, and go to war when the US says because our prime minister likes licking the president's arse, we must really be American. We're not.) An easy way to type is great for me, as I have clients all over the world, some who like invoices in US dollars, some who like invoices in euros, and a majority who would prefer not to be invoiced at all. I almost never use the right Alt key as the left one is much easier to hit (for me) in most cases. It would be really useful to have an extra mondifier key, so does anyone know a way to activate AltGr on US keyboard layouts? -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
On 25 July 2003, 11:01, Tim wrote: What is AltGr? ~~~ AltGR is the Alt key to the right of the spacebar. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A procrastinator's work is never done. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 T Not much use to me in Australia (everyone assumes that, if we speak T English, have dollars as currency, and go to war when the US says T because our prime minister likes licking the president's arse, we must T really be American. We're not.) Very sorry to have troubled you. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Sometimes too much to drink is not enough. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPyENoNttnLhkydF1EQKsngCfRjJWb0PBHiplOGmK9Ayt66GWZqsAniCB 9orXcEbD81XoOm8cRrljt4XA =zBO/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Hi Tim, on Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:01:40 +1000GMT (25.07.03, 12:01 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : T Is there an Alt+0??? combination that will do it? Here it is alt+0128, but then this is German Win98 with a German keyboard with char set ISO-8859-1 or -2 or -15... -- Cheers Peter The irony of life is that no one gets out alive... Winamp currently playing: Shania Twain - I'm Gonna Getcha (Good) [Country Version] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Euro character
Hello Artemich, On July 24, 2003, 16:52, you wrote: A Hello Peter, A Thursday, July 24, 2003, 8:50:54 PM, you wrote: PK I use the MicroEd text editor in the BAT and cannot get the Euro PK symbol. A I think that font you are using for MicroEd does not contain Euro A symbol (Courier for example), so you should change the it in Options/Editor A Preferences/Display to font that contain Euro sign (Courier New). Thanks all for the comments. You solved the problem, I had to change fonts. I was using Lucida Console, by changing the Courier New it works fine with AltGR5. -- Peter Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 98 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 12:52 schrieb Tim: I almost never use the right Alt key as the left one is much easier to hit (for me) in most cases. It would be really useful to have an extra mondifier key, so does anyone know a way to activate AltGr on US keyboard layouts? Hi Tim, I'm not sure, as I use a German keyboard and char set, but I think I once read that our right altgr key on American keyboards is represented by ctrl+alt. Give it a try. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Hello Peter, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:34:54 +0200 GMT (25/07/03, 22:34 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: It would be really useful to have an extra mondifier key, so does anyone know a way to activate AltGr on US keyboard layouts? I'm not sure, as I use a German keyboard and char set, but I think I once read that our right altgr key on American keyboards is represented by ctrl+alt. Give it a try. My Chinese keyboard works like a US keyboard when I switch the OS to English. I, too, read that crtl-alt should imitate AltGR, but it doesn't. My only way to produce the euro symbol is by using alt-0128 (NumPad). As for a list of codes (like 0128 for the euro symbol), apart from the charset application in Windows (Start / Run / charset), I have an ASCII table printed out and taped to the wall near my screen. I use it for German umlauts as well. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Mothers all want their sons to grow up to be President, but they don't want them to become politicians in the process. (John F. Kennedy) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Euro character
On Friday, July 25, 2003, 6:01:40 AM, Tim wrote: T What is AltGr? AltGr is a button which is found on European keyboards where you'd find one of the Alt buttons on North American keyboards. It acts as a second Alt button, allowing you to have a whole extra set of keyboard shortcuts. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Euro character
Hello All, I use the MicroEd text editor in the BAT and cannot get the Euro symbol. I can get the euro symbol in my text editor (Notetab) or MSWord by pressing Alt-5. I can also get the same in the Window Editor in BAT shown here: ?. but not in plain Text, Microed. I get a rectangular box, regardless what characters I use ( Latin, Central European (Iso or Window etc.). Only if I use the Cyrillic character set I get something else, but not the euro. I can get a number of off-key-characters using Altletter or AltShiftletters but not the euro. Any recommendation, other than use the Window Editor? Sometimes I get an E-mail from a list in both text and html format. It also shows the box, but in the html format there is nothing in place. -- Best regards, Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada) I either want less corruption, or more chance to participate in it. -- Ashleigh Brilliant Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 98 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Any recommendation, other than use the Window Editor? If you can't get the MicroEd to do it, I'd recommend setting up a quick template with the text . Then you can type something like euctrl+space to type the symbol. Not ideal I know - but it might work. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) I am. Is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I Do. is the longest sentence? - George Carlin. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Hello Peter, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 7:50:54 PM, you wrote: PK I use the MicroEd text editor in the BAT and PK cannot get the Euro symbol. The MicroEd editor produces proper ? here, at least it show up fine in my viewer and most of my correspondent's. No way of telling for sure though what it looks like at the other end, so I have gotten used to spelling it out: xxx euro's. I normally use character set Latin-9, but notice that it changed in this reply to Central European (ISO-8859-2). -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
Hello Peter, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 8:50:54 PM, you wrote: PK I use the MicroEd text editor in the BAT and cannot get the Euro PK symbol. I think that font you are using for MicroEd does not contain Euro symbol (Courier for example), so you should change the it in Options/Editor Preferences/Display to font that contain Euro sign (Courier New). -- Best regards, Artem Koren Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Euro character
On 24 July 2003, 18:50, Peter Kerekes wrote: I can get a number of off-key-characters using Altletter or AltShiftletters but not the euro. ~~~ ? can be obtained on keyboards that have a font that includes the Euro by pressing AltGr+4 (which is how I produced the ?'s in this paragraph). HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Help ... I can't find my Any key! Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting order of character sets
Hello tbudl, Is it possible to change the order in list of character set (view menu of Main window) and/or Message Encodings list (Option menu of Editor window)? It also would be nice to have the most wanted items on the top, when calling from the menus, and at the bottom when right clicking status bar in the editor. BTW, very strange (for me), that the same thing is named differently and located in different menus. Thanks in advance. -- Artem Koren Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Character Set Choice
Dear The Can someone tell me how does one choose the correct character set. I am UK based so do I choose 1250 Central European? Does the character set help to display the correct characters for a given region? For example, here in the UK for a email to another UK user, how do I ensure that the GBP currency sign () is displayed? -- Best regards Barry Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Character Set Choice
Hi, Barry Higginbottom wrote: Can someone tell me how does one choose the correct character set. I am UK based so do I choose 1250 Central European? No, you should choose Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) -- Edvinas Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Character Set Choice
Hello Edvis, Can someone tell me how does one choose the correct character set. I am UK based so do I choose 1250 Central European? E No, you should choose Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) According to the help file one should Choose which character set is used for the message auto-view window I've been using None for years - what am I missing out? Maurice Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Character Set Problems
Hello Keith, hey, it's you! Now I remember. :-) On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0700 GMT (06/11/02, 12:17 +0700 GMT), Keith Russell wrote: Hello 8o4q-skup, ROTFL! I did sign my message, didn't I? (Sorry--forgot to put my full name in the template 8-).) The user part of the email address could've been the representation of Korean characters in my system (which doesn't support Korean characters). How would I know? ;-) I went to the Web page and read the description and it looked like it was just the interface language; but it's worth a try! For future reference, please let us know whether it helped. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Planet: A body of Earth surrounded by sky. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Character Set Problems
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. As some of you know, I have a particular interest in using Korean with The Bat! For some time now, I've been aware that my home installation handled Korean differently (better) than the one at work. I've finally decided to try to track down why. Even though I've been running 1.61 in both locations, View | Character Set displays more character sets at home than at work. For example, it has Japanese (not Korean, however). I even installed the latest beta at work to see if I would get the additional character sets, but no such luck. All I have here are Latin-1, Central European (2 entries), Cyrillic (7), and Ukrainian. Can anyone tell me how I can get the missing character sets? I'm sure I installed something in the past that gave them to me, but I just can't remember what 8-(. That might not have anything to do with the problem. It might just be the difference between Windows XP and 2000, for all I know. But it's worth a try. Anything else that could account for the difference between the two locations? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...How do you make Windows faster ? Throw it harder Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 on a Pentium II 233 with 64 MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Character Set Problems
Hello 8o4q-skup, On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:23:24 -0700 GMT (06/11/02, 03:23 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some of you know, I have a particular interest in using Korean with The Bat! I don't remember that, but maybe it's because I find your name so difficult to pronounce and to remember. All I have here are Latin-1, Central European (2 entries), Cyrillic (7), and Ukrainian. Can anyone tell me how I can get the missing character sets? I'm sure I installed something in the past that gave them to me, but I just can't remember what 8-(. I got all the new character set options when I installed 1.61, I believe. I have also installed a new version of the intpack.exe somewhere a long the line, but I am not sure whether this has only to do with the interface language or also with the encodings. Try downloading and installing the new intpack onto the computer where Japanese is missing, and see whether it helps. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Avoid cliches like the plague (They're old hat.) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Character Set Problems
Hi, Thomas. On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:07:00 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, November 05, 2002, 7:07 PM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: Hello 8o4q-skup, On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:23:24 -0700 GMT (06/11/02, 03:23 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some of you know, I have a particular interest in using Korean with The Bat! I don't remember that, but maybe it's because I find your name so difficult to pronounce and to remember. ROTFL! I did sign my message, didn't I? (Sorry--forgot to put my full name in the template 8-).) I got all the new character set options when I installed 1.61, I believe. I have also installed a new version of the intpack.exe somewhere a long the line, but I am not sure whether this has only to do with the interface language or also with the encodings. Try downloading and installing the new intpack onto the computer where Japanese is missing, and see whether it helps. I went to the Web page and read the description and it looked like it was just the interface language; but it's worth a try! Thanks. -- Keith Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What TB sees as quote character
TheBat-users, Maybe I'm stupid, but I have not found (in Help or in the archives) how to change/add what characters TB treats as quote prefixes. Some people are fond of using all sorts of weird stuff :, |, etc. Of course I could ask them to change it... -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta1 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /os Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What TB sees as quote character
Hallo Peter, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:58:26 +0200GMT (16-10-02, 20:58 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PF Maybe I'm stupid, but I have not found (in Help or in the archives) how PF to change/add what characters TB treats as quote prefixes. I don't think you can change it. PF Some people are fond of using all sorts of weird stuff :, |, etc. PF Of course I could ask them to change it... You could try that. is by convention used as quote prefix | is by convention used as prefix for copied materials that aren't quotes from messages, but something like a batch-file or some source-code. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What TB sees as quote character
Roelof, On 17-10-2002 00:03, you [R] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: R I don't think you can change it. Then it is easy! :) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:What TB sees as quote character
At 2:58 PM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 Peter Fjelsten [PF] wrote the following about [What TB sees as quote character]: PF Maybe I'm stupid, but I have not found PF (in Help or in the archives) how to PF change/add what characters TB treats as PF quote prefixes. PF Some people are fond of using all sorts PF of weird stuff :, |, etc. Of course I PF could ask them to change it... I would agree with every word you've said except I would apply it to situations where people use an html format to identify the start end of each text line in their signature. giggle giggle /giggle ,- [Peter] | greeting Best regards /greeting | author Peter Fjelsten /author | thebat version 1.62/Beta1 /thebat version | os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /os '- -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta6/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISO-2022-JP Character Set
Hello Fossa, On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:59:00 +0700 GMT (10/07/02, 08:59 +0700 GMT), Fossa wrote: F Has someone tried to solve this problem ? Not with Japanese, but with Thai. F Like trying to add ISO-2022-JP character sets to the XLAT table ? Since you are already using a DBCS Windows, importing the XLAT table is all you to to do. Options / XLAT Tables / Add... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Alexander Strehmel (Unterhaching): Gerade in einem Spiel, wo die Nerven blank liegen, muss man sein wahres Gesicht zeigen und die Hosen runterlassen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ISO-2022-JP Character Set
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, July 10, 2002, 3:21:58 PM, you wrote: Hello Fossa, On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:59:00 +0700 GMT (10/07/02, 08:59 +0700 GMT), Fossa wrote: F Has someone tried to solve this problem ? Not with Japanese, but with Thai. F Like trying to add ISO-2022-JP character sets to the XLAT table ? Since you are already using a DBCS Windows, importing the XLAT table is all you to to do. Options / XLAT Tables / Add... Sorry for this dumb question but, where can I get this ISO-2022-JP XLAT table ? :) I've tried creating one, using materials from the RFC documents, it didn't get me anywhere :) TIA -- Best regards, Fossamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ISO-2022-JP Character Set
Hello Fossa, On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:55:49 +0700 GMT (10/07/02, 15:55 +0700 GMT), Fossa wrote: F Sorry for this dumb question but, where can I get this ISO-2022-JP XLAT F table ? :) I've tried creating one, using materials from the RFC F documents, it didn't get me anywhere :) Not a dumb question. I got the Thai XLAT table from a fellow TB-user who lives in Thailand. If you know how to create XLAT tables manually and have the patience to key in all the kanji, hiragana and katagana, that would be one way. :-) Otherwise, I would try a google search (XLAT tables are probably available for free download somewhere; also try www.microsoft.com), or ask on Japanese ML's or NG's if anybody has this table. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with explosions. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ISO-2022-JP Character Set
Hello Fossa, On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:11:12 +0700 GMT (10/07/02, 17:11 +0700 GMT), Fossa wrote: F Do you or anyone knows the xlat table format ? .. I have just found on F the internet ISO-2022-JP3 character table, I guess if I put it in xlat F format then I can load it into TB. Sorry, I don't know the rule for it. All I can recommend is to go to HKCU / Software / RIT / The Bat! / XLT / ... and look at samples. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
ISO-2022-JP Character Set
Another question, I'm using Win XP japanese version. I can write or read messages written in japanese if it uses shift-jis character set. But almost other japanese email softwares uses ISO-2022-JP character set in sending emails, which is not supported by the Bat character translation table. Has someone tried to solve this problem ? Like trying to add ISO-2022-JP character sets to the XLAT table ? Or does anyone have any suggestions ? -- Best regards, Fossa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: The Character
Hello Peter, On Wed, 15 May 2002 21:21:22 -0700GMT (16-5-02, 6:21 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MO Have a look at Options - Editor Preferences... - General - Quote MO Name Limit. PC What does the Quote Name Limit actually control? The number of characters that TB will recognize as a quote prefix before it encounters a '' -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
The Character
Folks, I've noticed that The Bat! will format an entire line as if it was a reply if it finds the greater than character . This is tough on me because I am on HTML and PERL mailing lists, and as you may know, that character is used extensively in both languages. Is there any way I can force The Bat! to just look at the first couple of characters in a line to determine whether it's a reply or code? Thanks, -MikeD Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Character
On 15 May 2002, 19:24, Mike Dillinger wrote: Is there any way I can force The Bat! to just look at the first couple of characters in a line to determine whether it's a reply or code? ~~~ From the menu, choose Options, Editor Preferences, then set the required number of characters in Quote Name Limit. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Tagline theft ... the sincerest form of flattery Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Character
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 20:24, Mike Dillinger wrote: Is there any way I can force The Bat! to just look at the first couple of characters in a line to determine whether it's a reply or code? Have a look at Options - Editor Preferences... - General - Quote Name Limit. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Character
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mike, @15 May 2002, 11:24:50 -0700 (19:24 UK time) Mike Dillinger wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've noticed that The Bat! will format an entire line as if it was a reply if it finds the greater than character . This is tough on me because I am on HTML and PERL mailing lists, and as you may know, that character is used extensively in both languages. Perl may be a slight problem but HTML is not - look: tag See - not quoted! Mind you, if you reply, that line will be quoted like this: tag instead of this: tag Is there any way I can force The Bat! to just look at the first couple of characters in a line to determine whether it's a reply or code? The other way (when you're writing such codes) - you've already been told how to shorten TB's recognition - is to use a space prefix at the beginning of lines that include the '' character. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60k-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE84rx9OeQkq5KdzaARArOIAKChXXdVBw98yrR7yRNf2rsly+2c/wCg6dQo EIofZwkozerVl8d6q4/mFDY= =oCJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Character
Hello Marck, 15. maj 2002, 21:52:27, you wrote: See - not quoted! Mind you, if you reply, that line will be quoted like this: tag instead of this: tag No, it's quoted properly... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] This will hurt me more than it hurts you. -- Hare's Additional Lie Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: The Character
Hello Marcus, Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 11:40:18 AM, you wrote: MO Have a look at Options - Editor Preferences... - General - Quote MO Name Limit. -- What does the Quote Name Limit actually control? -- Best regards, Peter Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: character setting (OT?)
Hello Luc! Can somebody explain me the difference between character set Latin 1 and Latin 9? Have a look at http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/latin9.html . -- Best Regards, Patrick Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: character setting (OT?)
Good afternoon Patrick, It was foretold that on 6-4-2002 @ 13:50:32 GMT+0200 (which was 13:50 where I live) Patrick Hagemann wrote and spread these wise comments on character setting (OT?): snipped a bit PH Have a look at http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/latin9.html . Tnx !! -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.60c with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. I may not jog or workout -- but I'm a very brisk eater. - Jim Moore Jr. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
character setting (OT?)
Good night list, Can somebody explain me the difference between character set Latin 1 and Latin 9? -- Best regards, Luc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by The Bat! version 1.60c with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. To get nowhere, follow the crowd. - Frank Baer. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Character set
Hello tbudl, I have problem with character set, instance accept message in setting character set with Central European (Windows 1250) and when i reply message (character set = none), i'am still accept this message in character set Central European (Windows 1250), how ? it is possible for 'none' character set when i reply ? How using %CHARSET for setting character set with 'none' ? it is possible ? (replies) %CHARSET=none %QINCLUDE=myreply *TB! 1.60c official -- Best regards, Han'smailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Group in address book and character set
Hello all In my address book I've created a new group and set it to use a special character set, this group is for mass mailing. When I choose one record for a test, The Bat! generated a message to ALL the group's records and not only for the selected one. When I click off the character set setting, all return to normal and only one message was created. Am I doing something wrong ? If It's a bug, can it be confirmed ? TIA. Shahar. nm Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Character Encoding / Fonts
Hello Dierk, Tuesday, October 30, 2001, 2:52:37 PM, you wrote: DH for the time being you will have to work with either FixedSys or DH another Thai font you may find on the Internet - as long as it is a DH fixed pitch font. Ah yes of course...! I remember fiddling around with fixed-spaced Thai fonts years ago on software which required monospaced fonts. Anyway, I found a fairly good Thai courier replacement which looks pretty good in Latin text as well. I found it at: http://software.thai.net/tis-620/courierthai.html The only minor drawback when displaying English text using this font is that the line spacing is a bit wider, which is something also most of the Thai standard Windows fonts do. (Except for Tahoma which I prefer for that reason) Just like the Fixedsys font however, it doesn't display the Thai vowels which appear above or below the consonant all that well. I guess there is just no way around that; all monospaced fonts of course skip the same space after every character. DH BTW, yours is the first sensible use for proportional fonts in e-mail DH I ever saw ... even if it is only for cosmetic purposes. :-) I loved TB the moment I saw the default font was Courier. :-) When it comes to Thai text, it's more than just cosmetic though; for the occaisional Thai email I can live with odd spaces in the text, however I think a Thai person who is used to perfectly spaced text in Outlook (curses!) would think twice before switching to TB. Fo r exa mple ima gine you r te xt loo ki ng li ke this. That's pretty much the effect when you try to write Thai with Fixedsys and other monospaced Thai fonts. Cheers, Han. +--+ | Han Thomas 25/1 Moo 2 Pa Bong, Saraphee| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]Chiang Mai 50140 THAILAND | +--+ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com