Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread Anne
On Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 8:46:08 AM, SL wrote in message:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
S However...I ran into a problem with registration: I have my
S registration(serial) number but I don't have a checksum number
S recorded anywhere

S So..how do you get around this ..if you do a clean/new instal, you
S have your serial number...but no other data??

S I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but...

Steve,

If you buy it from somewhere other than Ritlabs direct (as I did
from Amazon.co.uk) the serial number that comes with it is a
single number, which has to be entered onto the Ritlabs auth reg
page here: https://support.ritlabs.com/authreg.htm. This then
generates the keys that are needed for registration.

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Re[2]: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Anne,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 7:54:02 PM, you wrote:

snip

A Steve,

A If you buy it from somewhere other than Ritlabs direct (as I did
A from Amazon.co.uk) the serial number that comes with it is a
A single number, which has to be entered onto the Ritlabs auth reg
A page here: https://support.ritlabs.com/authreg.htm. This then
A generates the keys that are needed for registration.

It would seem I have a similar problem as I downloaded the upgrade
V2.11.02 and installed it flawlessly.  It went pretty smoothly, but to
my surprise, it appears to be a non-registered 10-day trail version. I
previously had V2.00.nn installed and registered, but that didn't seem
to matter in my case.  Now, the version I had was given to me from a
friend who tried it and didn't like The Bat! ... too complicated for
him he said, so that may be part of the problem.  And, come to think
of it, he may have registered it with his name, etc., but I'mpretty
sure he gave me serial number and other pertinent data I needed, but
... need to find it.  Anyway, using the newly downloaded and installed
V2.11.02 software and hoping to resolve this issue, I attempted via
the Help menu to read the steps in How to Register by selecting said
option and I get an informational message that lists a super long url
to RitLabs and essentially reads Access is denied.

I will be contacting RitLabs as I'm playing with a 10-day Trail
version here, but I do have a question.  If things don't get resolved
with them within the 10-day trail period, can I restore my previous
version, i.e., V2.00.nn?  Or am I S.O.L.?




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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 9:48 AM, you wrote:

s I will be contacting RitLabs as I'm playing with a 10-day Trail
s version here, but I do have a question.  If things don't get resolved
s with them within the 10-day trail period, can I restore my previous
s version, i.e., V2.00.nn?  Or am I S.O.L.?

I recall, I think, reading on a thread somewhere that you can revert
to previous versions of 2.00xx if you upgraded from a 2.00x
version--as you did.

Reverting back to a 1.xx from a 2.xx I recall as not being possible.
I'm going to do a Search in my personal archives for you about this in
just a sec.

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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary!

On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 9:54 AM, you wrote:

MB Hello subscriber2list!

s I will be contacting RitLabs as I'm playing with a 10-day Trail
s version here, but I do have a question.  If things don't get resolved
s with them within the 10-day trail period, can I restore my previous
s version, i.e., V2.00.nn?  Or am I S.O.L.?

MB I recall, I think, reading on a thread somewhere that you can
MB revert to previous versions of 2.00xx if you upgraded from a 2.00x
MB version--as you did.

subscriber2list, I have not found that thread yet, but I did find the
following on Search in a post by Allie Martin to someone who wanted to
transfer his copy of The Bat! to his own new machine.

I think it is basically bad news for you. I think your best course
will be to buy The Bat! in your own name. Perhaps you can get someone
to give it to you for your birthday?  Just kidding.

But the EULA does seem to plainly forbid your friend to have given you
his copy.

Begin quote:

Friday, February 13, 2004, 6:02:52 AM  (Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:02:52 -0500)

,- / From EULA \
| You are granted a non-exclusive licence to use the program on one
| computer at a time. The program may not be rented, leased or
| transferred. 

End quote.

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Re[2]: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 10:54:36 AM, you wrote:

MB Hello subscriber2list!

MB On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 9:48 AM, you wrote:

s I will be contacting RitLabs as I'm playing with a 10-day Trail
s version here, but I do have a question.  If things don't get resolved
s with them within the 10-day trail period, can I restore my previous
s version, i.e., V2.00.nn?  Or am I S.O.L.?

MB I recall, I think, reading on a thread somewhere that you can revert
MB to previous versions of 2.00xx if you upgraded from a 2.00x
MB version--as you did.

MB Reverting back to a 1.xx from a 2.xx I recall as not being possible.
MB I'm going to do a Search in my personal archives for you about this in
MB just a sec.

Oooh, TY, TY, TY!  That's most gracious of you.  With all you already
have on your plate, I really do appreciate your efforts!  I've got 9
days left, so you have ... time!  :grin:  aaah, :gdr:  I'm hoping it
gets resolved in a timely manner as I am finding V2.11.02 ... pretty
nice overall, but I always do like a fall-back position, if possible!

TTYL

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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 10:28 AM, you wrote:

s Oooh, TY, TY, TY!  That's most gracious of you.  With all you already
s have on your plate, I really do appreciate your efforts!  I've got 9
s days left, so you have ... time!  :grin:  aaah, :gdr:  I'm hoping it
s gets resolved in a timely manner as I am finding V2.11.02 ... pretty
s nice overall, but I always do like a fall-back position, if possible!

You will probably want to take your thanks back when you read my
follow-up message to Mary on this thread! My commiserations to you.
Anyway, I did try. :(

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Re[2]: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 11:15:23 AM, you wrote:

MB Hello Mary!

MB On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 9:54 AM, you wrote:

MB Hello subscriber2list!

s I will be contacting RitLabs as I'm playing with a 10-day Trail
s version here, but I do have a question.  If things don't get resolved
s with them within the 10-day trail period, can I restore my previous
s version, i.e., V2.00.nn?  Or am I S.O.L.?

MB I recall, I think, reading on a thread somewhere that you can
MB revert to previous versions of 2.00xx if you upgraded from a 2.00x
MB version--as you did.

MB subscriber2list, I have not found that thread yet, but I did find the
MB following on Search in a post by Allie Martin to someone who wanted to
MB transfer his copy of The Bat! to his own new machine.

MB I think it is basically bad news for you. I think your best course
MB will be to buy The Bat! in your own name. Perhaps you can get someone
MB to give it to you for your birthday?  Just kidding.

Oh well!  Hey, my birthday is coming up in August!  Do I have any
friends on this list ... I can send my mailing address off-list?  LOL!
Just kidding!

MB But the EULA does seem to plainly forbid your friend to have given you
MB his copy.

Oh, yes, the End User's Losing Again (EULA) document, huh?  Hhhhm, I
wonder how his giving it to me (as a birthday present - yes, that's a
stretch, folks!) since he didn't like it or didn't want to use it
after he purchased it and it only resides/resided on one computer ...
mine!  Oh well, I'm not going to debate it, but it would seem you
can't give it as a boxed gift.  While I agree with most EULA
provisions this is one I really don't necessarily agree, but who am I?
Perry Mason? Matlock? Johnnie Cochran? Hhhh, I wonder how many
recognize those names, huh?  LOL!

Thanks again, Mary.  No problem, but if I disappear for awhile ... you
know why as it appears I may have been illegal according to their
EULA, but I'm good to go for another nine (9) days!  Still don't
understand why the How To Register function doesn't seem to work ...
I would expect it to direct me to the enumerated URL and I could go on
from there.  Oh well ...

MB Begin quote:

MB Friday, February 13, 2004, 6:02:52 AM  (Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:02:52 -0500)

MB ,- / From EULA \
MB | You are granted a non-exclusive licence to use the program on one
MB | computer at a time. The program may not be rented, leased or
MB | transferred. 

MB End quote.




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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 10:45 AM, you wrote:

s Thanks again, Mary.  No problem, but if I disappear for awhile ... you
s know why as it appears I may have been illegal according to their
s EULA, but I'm good to go for another nine (9) days!  ...

I'm no lawyer! And I'm certainly not turning you in! Woe. Maybe the
language doesn't mean what I have read it to mean. :(

s ... Still don't understand why the How To Register function
s doesn't seem to work ... I would expect it to direct me to the
s enumerated URL and I could go on from there. Oh well ...

Like all TB! problems, madly frustrating when first encountered,
simple when explained. So, who reading this thread has the necessary
explanation?  Anyone?

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Re[2]: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 11:40:24 AM, you wrote:

MB Hello subscriber2list!

MB On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 10:28 AM, you wrote:

s Oooh, TY, TY, TY!  That's most gracious of you.  With all you already
s have on your plate, I really do appreciate your efforts!  I've got 9
s days left, so you have ... time!  :grin:  aaah, :gdr:  I'm hoping it
s gets resolved in a timely manner as I am finding V2.11.02 ... pretty
s nice overall, but I always do like a fall-back position, if possible!

MB You will probably want to take your thanks back when you read my
MB follow-up message to Mary on this thread! My commiserations to you.
MB Anyway, I did try. :(

Yes, I got the message, but I still thank you for your efforts.  I
have no real problem with it overall, but do think the area of a
gift is something that has to be handled very carefully ... meaning,
if another person, say a wife or close friend, buys the software for
another person, they need to jump through a few hoops to do it right.
Now, many people are just not that savy per se as they are simply used
to buying boxed software, wrapping it up and giving it to the
intended recipient.  Yes, my situation is different and I have openly
stated the situation ... so I have no qualms ... don't totally agree,
but no qualms.  I think it is a good product, but fear it may be going
the Incredimail direction.

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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-07-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 10:52 AM, you wrote:

s ... I have no real problem with it [the TB! EULA] overall, but do
s think the area of a gift is something that has to be handled very
s carefully ... meaning, if another person, say a wife or close
s friend, buys the software for another person, they need to jump
s through a few hoops to do it right. Now, many people are just not
s that savy per se as they are simply used to buying boxed
s software, wrapping it up and giving it to the intended recipient.
s ...

RitLabs is a small company, but they really do try to treat their
customers fairly. I imagine that in the case of a true gift, they
would work something out, if asked.

When I first got a Laptop, I wrote asking if I needed to buy a second
license. The reply was that I could use my single licensed copy on
both machines, provided I was only on-line with one of them at a time.

So I wrote back (having as income both my own pension and my husband's
and therefore feeling able to be generous toward a company I believe
in) that I was happy to support RitLabs and would buy a second
license. Just in case at some point I should lend my Laptop to a
friend who might get on-line at the same time as I was using my
Desktop.

Blessed are the generous--I advise you to join that crowd, s2,
LOL--and inherit The Bat!

s ... Yes, my situation is different and I have openly stated the
s situation ... so I have no qualms ... don't totally agree, but no
s qualms. I think it is a good product, but fear it may be going the
s Incredimail direction.

Oh, s2, the smileys are only a bit of fun from which evolved the
serious function of the Roguemoticons that even serious business
people are seeing as a possibility to enhance the team spirit of their
in-house networks and there are questions being asked on tbbeta the
last day or so about adding corporate logos into the
already-accomplished display of the Roguemoticons in the headers.

Bat people (even though some of them went over to the HTML side and
won, against my kicking-and-screaming-opposition) are basically plain
people who like a neat, readable page.

We'll all get tired of our new toys after awhile and use them
sensibly--or, perhaps, only on tbot in an occasional silly-fit.

Did you notice in my sig (on tbot) Ex-plain-text person? That's me!

Don't sweat the small stuff. LOL

I'm off to tbot with this. My trout here is already being prepared
even as I write--for rambling on etc. :grin:

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serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-06-15 Thread SL
Hello BatPhiles

I was just reinstalling TheBat (yet again)and thought I might do it
'clean and new'...ie a new install, and without resorting to
restoration of data from a Backup

However...I ran into a problem with registration: I have my
registration(serial) number but I don't have a checksum number
recorded anywhere

So..how do you get around this ..if you do a clean/new instal, you
have your serial number...but no other data??

I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but...

(PS No 'runtime' or 'error reading database' messages in the last few
hours...;-)


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17:41 Tuesday, 15 June 2004

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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-06-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo SL,

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:46:08 +1000GMT (15-6-2004, 9:46 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S However...I ran into a problem with registration: I have my
S registration(serial) number but I don't have a checksum number
S recorded anywhere

Well, the serial number is not the same as the registration key. Both
the registration key and the checksum have sent to you in a message.

S So..how do you get around this ..if you do a clean/new instal, you
S have your serial number...but no other data??

If I'd do a clean install even without importing my old messagebase (I
can hardly imagine that) I'd first export my registration mail to
.msg, so that I could import it in the new install.
An other option would be to save the registration key from the
registry.

S I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but...

Yep. In case you've really lost it, try to send a message to ritlabs,
they might be able to help.

S (PS No 'runtime' or 'error reading database' messages in the last few
S hours...;-)

Good for you.

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Re: serial number and checksum for TheBat

2004-06-15 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello SL,

On 15 June 2004, 17:46 +1000 (08:46 local time) SL [S] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

S So..how do you get around this ..if you do a clean/new instal, you
S have your serial number...but no other data??

You can't. You really should keep the original message for future
reference, print it and keep it somewhere safe, or use a utility like
PINs to keep registration information safe.

S I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but...

Yes, 16/05/2004. You'll have to contact Ritlabs about a new key... see
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/contacts.php for details.


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