[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
On May 4, 7:24 pm, Stephan Hradek wrote: > Transcluded Tiddler Sections don't get refreshed when changed. Responses on this thread should be specific to problems with TW272b1; i.e, a problem that existed in a previous revision and was **supposed to be fixed** in TW272b1 -- as per the [[WhatsNew]] tiddler -- is still broken, or something that worked in a previous revision is newly broken in TW272b1. Any other problems should be discussed/reported in a separate thread. Thanks, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
Transcluded Tiddler Sections don't get refreshed when changed. Example: [[PartlyTranscluded]] !Section1 not transcluded !Section2 transcluded !End [[transcluding]] <> This will give you in "transcluding" the proper text "transcludded". If you change the tiddler "PartlyTranscluded", the tiddler "transcluding" does not get refresehed. But I already mentioned that before to you ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
For what it's worth, this is what happens for me: The display URI is built from the path of the TiddlyWiki itself *and* the path of the TiddlyWiki I'm importing from. file:///F:/installers/TiddlyWiki/ W:/XAMPP/htdocs/sites/TiddlyWikis/secret-hq/add-ons.tw (I never noticed this before, likely because I was always importing from the same directory once I knew that cross-directory imports would fail.) Just like you say, though, the import works fine — even though the displayed URI appears mangled. — Likely unrelated/irrelevant, but — with some TiddlyWikis as the target, I do get this error: Unable to get property '1' of undefined or null reference. After clicking "OK," I get the list of tiddlers and import proceeds fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
> Even with the new API, though, it seems that using "browse" to select a > file still generates a malformed URI, as detailed here: > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/70FECqj3otg/00A3dOF-m-sJ When you select a file with the browse button, the displayed URI text is actually not used. Rather, an internal object, returned from the selection dialog, is passed along to the FileReader API. Thus, even if the URI is malformed, the FileReader should still be able to open the file that was selected. Nonetheless, the code should not be creating a malformed URI... I'll look into this. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
Woo-hoo! Even with the new API, though, it seems that using "browse" to select a file still generates a malformed URI, as detailed here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/70FECqj3otg/00A3dOF-m-sJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
On May 4, 10:20 am, Yakov wrote: > Now my point is, I'd like to test the update engine, but currently I have > no opporunity to do this. My 2.7.1 TW sais: > "This TiddlyWiki appears to be already using the latest version of the core > code (2.7.1). > You can continue to upgrade anyway to ensure that the core code hasn't been > corrupted or damaged" The backstage upgrade process only applies to full releases. The current full release is still TW271. When TW272 is released, a copy is posted to http://tiddlywiki-releases.tiddlyspace.com, which is then used as the source for upgrades. Until then, the upgrade process considers TW271 to be current. > I tried this, and fortunately this haven't spoiled the content. However, to > be sure that the new version is "safe", I have to test upgrading from 2.7.1 > to 2.7.2 beta. Is there any way to do so? May be it's worth extending the > upgrade engine so that it allows two options: update to the main current > release or update to the current "nightly built"? To test a beta build you need to first download a local copy and then import your content. Go to http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta, and select the "download" link (or, just right click the link right here and choose "save link as...". Once the file is downloaded, open it locally, select backstage>import, and import your content from another document. Then save-and-reload to verify that your plugins are working. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Cancelling the TiddlyFox allert
Hi Dani, do you use TiddlyFox from FireFox extensions official repository? The thing is, there's quite outdated version in there. The latest version can be found at GitHub [1] (tiddlyfox.xpi file); though, recently Jeremy added some new things and I'm not sure how stable it is (see the main conversation [2]). Version 1.0alpha12 works finely for me. This particular post can be useful [3], but still there's a bunch of recent changes, so I suggest testing the newest version after you create backups of your TiddlyWikis. Best regards, Yakov. [1] https://github.com/tiddlywiki/tiddlyfox [2] https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywikidev/1Em8cJviVKk [3] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/1Em8cJviVKk/Anydib5eIAkJ суббота, 4 мая 2013 г., 22:08:18 UTC+4 пользователь danizobin написал: > > I'm using Tiddly on firefox, through the TiddlyFox extension. > Every time I load Tiddly, an annoying allert pop's up, asking me aboujt > the obvious: do I want to enable tiddlywiky saving features. Yes I do. > > Is there a way to turn this alert off? > > Who is it that asks me that - is it the extension or firefox itself, maybe > some security measure? > > Dani > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Cancelling the TiddlyFox allert
I'm using Tiddly on firefox, through the TiddlyFox extension. Every time I load Tiddly, an annoying allert pop's up, asking me aboujt the obvious: do I want to enable tiddlywiky saving features. Yes I do. Is there a way to turn this alert off? Who is it that asks me that - is it the extension or firefox itself, maybe some security measure? Dani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Hi,
суббота, 4 мая 2013 г., 20:36:15 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:
>
> Yakov,
>
> Thanks for testing the plugins. The "more" thing is not taken care of yet,
> and the keyboard navigation issues are still there (for a while already).
> They will be addressed in the future. Currently I am writing some
> documentation and preparing to separate the large table support
> (scrolling of table body, fixed rows/cols, etc.) to reduce the plugin size
> a bit.
>
> Well, I thought I would separate the "other" part of codes so there is one
> version for tables only. But soon I realized that was impractical since *all
> editing features share the same core codes*. To make one for tables only
> needs to duplicate the core codes, which does not really help much in
> reducing the plugin size. Separating the large table support, however,
> could reduce a noticeable amount of codes, I think, since this part is
> outside of the core of the plugins.
>
>
> The version 1.6.4 is mainly on *fixing the positioning issue*, and some
> restructuring for the separation of large table support.
> See release note athttp://
> http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.4%5D%5D
> download links, test cases and other info.
>
> Have fun!
> Vincent
>
> p.s. By the way, what do you suggest to change in the plugin information?
> I have not much idea of what that part should be. Or you can give me some
> reference?
>
> Well, TWtid.min has Core Version slice with a value "2.6.5." while it
should be CoreVersion with a value "2.6.5"; TWted.min has the Description
slice with a value "In-place edit table cells while in TWted you've already
changed it to "In-place view mode editor". The same story about Core
Version as in TWtid.min is in TWted.min and, by the way, wrong name "Core
Version" is used in the TWted and TWtid as well. Finally, TWted.min
contains "Needs to have" with an outdated "TWtable" value.
Note: it may be of interest to take a look at the "plugin registration"
codes [1], so that you'll know what slices are used by the core.
Other than that, I still recomment to add something helpful to the
"GettingStarted" tiddler (or even change the contents of the
DefaultTiddlers), -- it's good when your repository has a "starting page"
(starting tiddler(s)).
Best regards,
Yakov.
[1] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/main.js#L141
plus try searching main.js for "loadPlugins"
PS I'll check out the 1.6.4 version some time later (or may be will try the
next version).
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:53:41 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> versions 1.6.3 definitely work much better. Would you mind to change the
>> Description/Core Version/Needs to have slices in the .min versions of the
>> plugins too?
>>
>> No "extra list items", no strange things with the first list item and
>> many more things got better. Now I can edit both translcusion macro and
>> transcluded content for each of tiddler/slider/tabs, although for tiddler I
>> can do that only with some more text in the edit box (not just <> ..>>, but also text before and after).
>>
>> Now a couple of error messages. My "New Tiddler 1" contains the same
>> stuff as in the previous tests, from your site:
>>
>> --
>> @@color:blue;The plugins disable editing features if the tiddler is
>> marked ''readOnly'' by ~TiddlyWiki. You may need to copy it off-line to
>> try.@@
>>
>> Try change the content in one of the transcluded tiddlers. In this test
>> case changes are synchronized among all copies.
>> !! {{{<>}}} transcluded
>> <>
>> !! {{{<>}}} transcluded
>> <>
>> !! {{{<>}}} transcluded
>> <> 'Tab1' '' 'Test 1'
>> 'Tab2' '' 'Test 2'
>> >>
>> --
>>
>> "Test 1" contains
>>
>> --
>> some wonderful things!
>> * one
>> * two
>> more
>> * and
>> --
>>
>> and "Test 2":
>> --
>> more interesting things..
>> Let's try lists:
>> * item one
>> * item two
>> and then more text
>> * one more item
>> --
>>
>> Now let's go to the "New Tiddler 1":
>>
>> there's a position of the cursor that allows to open the text of the
>> whole <> transclusion. But if I mouseover the "more" line and
>> click, I get this message:
>>
>> ...
>> Message: Plain text starts at 0 after LI[text:( two)], ends at -2 before
>> LI[text:( and)] in tiddler
>> ...
>>
>> Another one appears if I click the "more" line in the <>
>> translcusion:
>>
>> Message: Plain text starts at 2 after LI[text:()], ends at 0 before
>> LI[text:()] in tiddler
>>
>> Nothing like that, however, happens when I click "more" line in the
>> <> transclusion.
>>
>>
>> I took a look at the old tests of table editing. This one contains some
>> tiny issues:
>>
>> -
>> Section
>> |со слитыми ячейками|c
>> |h-cell1|>|h-cell2|h
>> |c11+|c12|c13|
>> |~|c22|c23|
>>
>> |с отсутствующими я
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1
Hello Eric, I have an issue about testing new core versions. Preliminary. When 2.7.1 beta was released, I downloaded it, but haven't given it a try in an actual use. After a while, I decided to add one more TiddlyWiki to those I use and took that one. I put some content (fortunately, not much) there but there was a problem with saving with TiddlySaver (I had to use FireFox instead), so I decided to upgrade the core. I've run the update engine, but what I got was spoiled content (before upgrade, it contained non-latin letters; after -- as well but mostly some hieroglyphs, may be Chinese). There were some piculiar details about it: for instance, some tiddler titles got "created=" parts and texts -- parts of and may be tags (parts of the storage html code). Now my point is, I'd like to test the update engine, but currently I have no opporunity to do this. My 2.7.1 TW sais: "This TiddlyWiki appears to be already using the latest version of the core code (2.7.1). You can continue to upgrade anyway to ensure that the core code hasn't been corrupted or damaged" I tried this, and fortunately this haven't spoiled the content. However, to be sure that the new version is "safe", I have to test upgrading from 2.7.1 to 2.7.2 beta. Is there any way to do so? May be it's worth extending the upgrade engine so that it allows two options: update to the main current release or update to the current "nightly built"? Best regards, Yakov. суббота, 4 мая 2013 г., 4:51:30 UTC+4 пользователь Eric Shulman написал: > > Greetings All! > > I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic, version 2.7.2 BETA 1, > is now available for viewing/download, here: > http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta > > IMPORTANT: This revision is on an shortened release schedule and, > barring any reports of critical "show stopper" errors, will be > promoted to full release within the next week. > > This revision includes the following changes: > > * Backstage>import: > See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 > > Importing tiddlers now uses "FileReader" API whenever available > (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.). This new HTML5- > standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special > privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you > interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now > successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current > folder. > > Note: this change only applies when you use the "browse" (or "select > file") button to interactively choose a document from your local > filesystem. If you manually enter (or paste) a local "file://" URL > into the import form (or if FileReader handling is not supported by > your browser version), the existing browser-specific file I/O > functions are used, which still requires security permissions and/or > other add-ons to permit reading of file contents; e.g. TiddlyFox > (FireFox), TiddlySaver java applet (Chrome, Safari, Opera, etc.), or > ActiveX (Internet Explorer). > > * Internet Explorer: > See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/118 > > When using IE10 (the current version of IE), special-case handling of > embedded newlines in PRE-formatted blocks is no longer applied. This > corrects a formatting/display error introduced by changes in IE10. > Note: this change only applies to IE10 and above; special handling is > still applied to embedded newlines in IE9 and earlier so there should > be no change to existing content when viewed on IE9 or earlier. > > enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > Lead Developer - TiddlyWiki Classic > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Yakov,
Thanks for testing the plugins. The "more" thing is not taken care of yet,
and the keyboard navigation issues are still there (for a while already).
They will be addressed in the future. Currently I am writing some
documentation and preparing to separate the large table support (scrolling
of table body, fixed rows/cols, etc.) to reduce the plugin size a bit.
Well, I thought I would separate the "other" part of codes so there is one
version for tables only. But soon I realized that was impractical since *all
editing features share the same core codes*. To make one for tables only
needs to duplicate the core codes, which does not really help much in
reducing the plugin size. Separating the large table support, however,
could reduce a noticeable amount of codes, I think, since this part is
outside of the core of the plugins.
The version 1.6.4 is mainly on *fixing the positioning issue*, and some
restructuring for the separation of large table support.
See release note athttp://
http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.4%5D%5D
download links, test cases and other info.
Have fun!
Vincent
p.s. By the way, what do you suggest to change in the plugin information? I
have not much idea of what that part should be. Or you can give me some
reference?
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:53:41 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> versions 1.6.3 definitely work much better. Would you mind to change the
> Description/Core Version/Needs to have slices in the .min versions of the
> plugins too?
>
> No "extra list items", no strange things with the first list item and many
> more things got better. Now I can edit both translcusion macro and
> transcluded content for each of tiddler/slider/tabs, although for tiddler I
> can do that only with some more text in the edit box (not just < ..>>, but also text before and after).
>
> Now a couple of error messages. My "New Tiddler 1" contains the same stuff
> as in the previous tests, from your site:
>
> --
> @@color:blue;The plugins disable editing features if the tiddler is marked
> ''readOnly'' by ~TiddlyWiki. You may need to copy it off-line to try.@@
>
> Try change the content in one of the transcluded tiddlers. In this test
> case changes are synchronized among all copies.
> !! {{{<>}}} transcluded
> <>
> !! {{{<>}}} transcluded
> <>
> !! {{{<>}}} transcluded
> < 'Tab1' '' 'Test 1'
> 'Tab2' '' 'Test 2'
> >>
> --
>
> "Test 1" contains
>
> --
> some wonderful things!
> * one
> * two
> more
> * and
> --
>
> and "Test 2":
> --
> more interesting things..
> Let's try lists:
> * item one
> * item two
> and then more text
> * one more item
> --
>
> Now let's go to the "New Tiddler 1":
>
> there's a position of the cursor that allows to open the text of the whole
> <> transclusion. But if I mouseover the "more" line and click, I
> get this message:
>
> ...
> Message: Plain text starts at 0 after LI[text:( two)], ends at -2 before
> LI[text:( and)] in tiddler
> ...
>
> Another one appears if I click the "more" line in the <>
> translcusion:
>
> Message: Plain text starts at 2 after LI[text:()], ends at 0 before
> LI[text:()] in tiddler
>
> Nothing like that, however, happens when I click "more" line in the
> <> transclusion.
>
>
> I took a look at the old tests of table editing. This one contains some
> tiny issues:
>
> -
> Section
> |со слитыми ячейками|c
> |h-cell1|>|h-cell2|h
> |c11+|c12|c13|
> |~|c22|c23|
>
> |с отсутствующими ячейками|c
> |h-cell1|h-cell2|h
> |c11|c12|
> |c21|
> !!end
>
> |двигаем столбцы|c
> ||h-cell1|h-cell2||h
> |c13|c11|c12|c14|
> |c34|c21|c22|c24|
> [[тестируемая вставка]]
>
> тесты вставки:
> <>
> -
>
> First, try navigation via arrows in the first table. If you try up/down in
> c12, c13, c22 and c23, you'll probably get some strange behaviour (diagonal
> and other jumping).
>
> In the second table, you can edit the missing cell by direct clicking on
> it, but can't reach it by arrows from other cells.
>
> In the third one, you can find an "escaping caption" fun :) just mouseover
> the table and don't stop it -- when I move cursor being over the table,
> caption goes more and more to the right.
>
> I think that's all for now.
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> пятница, 26 апреля 2013 г., 17:29:58 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
> написал:
>>
>> Ton,
>>
>> I am very glad that you like v1.6.2. I hope you will like v1.6.3 even
>> more (because I do).
>>
>> TWtid v1.6.3+TWted v1.6.3. (No changes made to TWtcalc 0.8.1)
>>
>> Bug fixes for transclusion support, edit the macro command as well as
>> the transcluded content (see
>> http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BTransclusion%20support%5D%5D for
>> details), better focusing border behavior, etc.
>>
>> See release note athttp:
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 missing left sidebar
Hi Grant Many thanks, much appreciated. It's terrific that TiddlyWiki intertwines itself into people's brains so well. I'm very excited about TiddlyWiki5, and value the feedback, Best wishes Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com On 3 May 2013, at 22:15, Grant wrote: Thanks Jeremy, All is OK then. Great work you have done these last 9 years. There is something addictive about TW. I use Evernotes, and MylifeOrganized mainly, but keep coming back to take a look at TW because of the better and flexible information management and viewing capabilities. Naturally I like the support the group gives too! Cheers, Grant Op vrijdag 3 mei 2013 11:47:39 UTC+2 schreef Grant het volgende: > > HI, > I am a casual user of Tiddlywiki's (but have a lot of notes stored in > some) and I wanted to try out TW5 (so I can more easily save on my many > devices) but I can not even get past saving my TW, at least as instructed, > by using the ' Save ' button on the leftsidebar because there is no > left sidebar, only a right one (which has save hidden in the tools, where > it seems more like a ' save configuration change' command (but does save > the whole thing I guess... I am using Chrome v26 on Windows 7. I have not > tried any other browser or device yet... > > Any idea what is wrong... > > Also, I miss the backstage, and the title is only on the right sidebar, > not to top... maybe its all because its still early Beta... > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TW and (Alex Gorbatchev's) SyntaxHighlighter
Hi Carlos, Nice you found the issue. If you need syntax highlighting in edit mode too. codemirror may be an option. http://codemirror.tiddlyspace.com/ There is also a video, how to activate the stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tq5xv0FHU have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
