[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
Hi Tobias, I'd be inclined to make the same suggestion as I have to Danielo... I was trying to follow the instructions at http://tiddlywiki.com/#PluginMechanism: *Plugin authors are encouraged to provide special information and documentation tiddlers that TiddlyWiki can include as plugin information tabs in the control panel.* If you think that's bad practice, I recommend you propose a change to the instructions. Please consider shipping the plugin with one mater example that shows it all. That's what the example in the Example tab was trying to do, but maybe it can be improved. See below :) Also, I think it would be better to just see the example code, not the output with some pseudo-code that is hard to read... and get to. I've changed that example so that it directly shows the notation above the diagram. Finally, that example tab in the current documentation shows an error. Oops. That's because I hadn't updated http://ae-railroad.tiddlyspot.com http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fae-railroad.tiddlyspot.com%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHj2jp2vPJwXyS-pRLcIdBsQkfC8g to the latest prerelease core. Thanks – now fixed. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
Also, this is TW5, not TWC. Sorry, how stupid of me! All I can say is: it was late at night when I posted. I'll start a new TW5 thread for any further discussion that would have appeared in this one. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Next stop on the railroad
You may not have seen this thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/b57cfTZoI5w … because I goofed and typed [TWC] instead of [TW5] in the title. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] 3D question - Is anyone doing it and is it possible
Check this : https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/Duarte/tiddlywiki/i_jkev-RYIM Regards, Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] 3D question - Is anyone doing it and is it possible
Oops, doesn't work. Is a post from Duarte about his poster in 3D in a tiddler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TW5 get tiddlers with the same tags combination
I don't think a macro helps here, we need a filter to get to something like this, I guess: Of course my macro is just a workaround. I agree that we need a filter. http://tagfilter.tiddlyspot.com Best wishes, Tobias. I don't understand at all how your filter works. I expect it to return all the tiddlers with the same tags than the current one with this : [all[current[]tags[]tagging:all[]] but it does not work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Context Search plugin updated
Picking up on Tobias's comment at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/b57cfTZoI5w: Maybe the documentation for plugins in Jermolene's repository (i.e. plugins that are version-linked to the core, such as KaTeX and railroad) should be held centrally on tiddlywiki.com. In the current thread, Tobias said: I pretty much create a new TiddlySpot (or other individual wiki) for every little thing. To document and showcase individually. I find that helps with the focus. I can see both sides of this. Certainly it's good to avoid mixing things up into a muddly mess. On the other hand, you then have to spend more time maintaining everything when (say) a new version of the core is released. Personally, I also wouldn't ship js comments with the core. Perhaps plugins should offer an alternative compact version of themselves, in which the JavaScript would be minified and the documentation removed. Then the user could choose which they want. But this would mean more work for the plugin developer. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: How can the public add data to my tw?
I haven't tried it but an easy way to limit what the users can do will be like, if you mess with the file permissions for the available tiddlers, maybe it wont be possible to delete the already created tiddlers but only create new ones. As far as I know there is no authentication layer atm. So it's either full access or none. Some basic js-only authentication could probide for a rudimentary type that not so secret password into this box in that hidden admin panel. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TW5 get tiddlers with the same tags combination
http://tagfilter.tiddlyspot.com I don't understand at all how your filter works. I expect it to return all the tiddlers with the same tags than the current one with this: [all[current[]tags[]tagging:all[]] but it does not work. Where / how does it not work? Don't you see the list being filtered by precisely the currently selected tags (stored at a state tiddler)? Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Context Search plugin updated
I think I'm starting a discussion that does not belongs to this but: I like having the Tiddlywiki code expanded. I find it more transparent. The other way, it looks like you are trying to hide something. Also it could be a culprit to many people that explores tiddlywiki directly on the HTML file version. If the single file edition is minified, you force people to do their customization's and explore the code directly on github, making this the only way. Does somebody tried to minify tiddlywiki's JS code? Does the difference deserve the problems it has? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] xlist — rewritten (!) and plenty more powerful now!
Is there a way to put a [[NEW]] Tag on the new stuff and have that easily pulled? Or better than that a way to do a date search for things in the last month or two and have that shown? As for my stuff... - check the timeline @tb5 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Timeline - although, I touched a lot of tags to give them icons, recently - take a look at $:/follow @ tb5 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Ffollow for external content Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Could TW display a file that is actually a tiddler?
Hi Mat, However, I'm wondering if it is possible to actually make it display as a normal tiddler? (Pretty much making TW behave like node.js TW in this specific matter). That requires a server for TiddlyWiki to talk to and make XmlHttpRequests delivering the tiddlers wrapped in the expected response. So, just accessing the filesystem won't do that for you. You need... - some TiddlyWiki code to make a request for something specific - and the necessary response headers that tell TiddlyWiki what to do with it - some TiddlyWiki code to handle the response, e.g. create tiddlers ...pretty much something like TiddlyDrive, only local. I'm guessing the answer is that we dont'. I think it would be useful and I see a few possible scenarios for what this could actually be So, yes, TiddlyWiki itself, in the browser cannot provide that functionality by itself. IMO the most interesting application would be if the external tiddler could remain as the external source and that kind of just temporarily pulled in on demand - i.e processed/rendered temporarily! Again, a bit like external images but with possibility to execute the code and have text readin [[link]] to actually, but temporarily, be link. (What is it called when the text or code is interpreted in TW? Wikified? The method form my link above tells the browser to handle and embed the file the way it is able to, if it is. All TiddlyWiki does at that point is tell the browser to do just that. It's got no means to access that content in the same way it's got no means to access iframes just like that. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Context Search plugin updated
I like having the Tiddlywiki code expanded. I find it more transparent. It would be totally easy to have a link point to the source of a component at GitHub. Also, I wasn't (yet) asking for minification and certainly not obfuscation. I was just mildly pointing out that I don't quite fancy the way everything gets stuffed and expanded into the distro. In the source code, sure... put as much documentation as you can, especially when we eventually extract it into some on-thy-fly-generated code documentation, hopefully, eventually. But, what is being built and shipped is not a developer environment, it's a distribution with a functionality... that should be optimized for performance to the fullest, imho. Again, pointing to the readable source is (or should be) as easy as 1-2-3. The other way, it looks like you are trying to hide something. So, just don't make it look like that, point to the readable source, in an automated manner. Also it could be a culprit to many people that explores tiddlywiki directly on the HTML file version. If the single file edition is minified, you force people to do their customization's and explore the code directly on github, making this the only way. While I would sure like a minified distro for things like a website project, leaving out the code comments really isn't impinging on readability. It just takes out that overhead intended for core developers. Does somebody tried to minify tiddlywiki's JS code? Does the difference deserve the problems it has? Just try not to forget the benefits. There's always two sides to a story. Also, I think we're only talking about js tiddlers in terms of minifying stripping comments, not html. So, any templates are just as redable as before! The rest is for people knowledgeable of the core, imho... or those with the skillset to explore and modify it. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Context Search plugin updated
Out of interest, I've just tried minifying a couple of large JS files from the core (boot.js and wiki,js) and a couple of small ones (addprefix.js and textparser.js). The result in each case was just under half the size of the original file. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Possible to include/transclude contents of an external text file into a tiddler?
Thanks Tobias, that works great. The reason I'm using todo.txt for task management is the mobile aspect and the flexibility. I have a windows client at work, a linux client at home, an Android app, and if necessary I can edit the todo.txt directly. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:26 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com wrote: Thanks! Seems to be another situation where the code is case sensitive. Mark On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 1:46:50 PM UTC-8, Mat wrote: @Mark S I got it to work by copying Tobias code and put in a local file like this: object data=file:///C:/Users/ type=text/plain style=width:100%;height:400px; scrolling:yes a href=file:///C:/Users/.. target=_blankEnTiddler.tid/a (missing or not supported) /object On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 10:24:24 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: I couldn't get this code to work with a local file. Does it only work with http ? For organizing daily tasks stored in plain text, emacs org-mode has loads of functionality and a wide user base. Is there a good meta-app for task management in TW5? OM will let you quickly see a calendar for today, change dates, priorities, tags, statuses, and edit tasks. Mark On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 2:29:34 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote: I have settled on using todo.txt (http://todotxt.com/) to manage my todo list. I recommend it. Not trying to convince you otherwise... May I ask why the decision to use that and not TiddlyWiki? Specifically, what was (mostly) missing in TiddlyWiki that you get with *todotxt.com http://todotxt.com*? (preferably indicating importance: 10-high / 1-low) Is it possible to transclude the contents of the todo file into a tiddler? Can it be done with a relative path, so that it will work whereever I access my TW from? This... object data=./text.txt type=text/plain style=width:100%;height: 400px; scrolling:yes a href=./text.txttext.txt/a (embedding not supported) /object ...works for me. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/dYIbm6FpYfc/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- website: matthewpetty.com podcast: coiledspring.org READ CAREFULLY. By reading this email, you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (BOGUS AGREEMENTS) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in Node WebKit
Well, if you download Node-Webkit and open a TW5 file in it, it detects that node is available and tries to load everything from the file system. This of course does not work. So what I did as a workaround, was to add a line to bootprefix.js if( $tw.nodeWebKit ) $tw.node = null;. This took care of the problem. Then I made a save handler based off TiddlyFoxSaver to save to the file system using NodeWebKit. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote: As you may be aware, single file TiddlyWiki does not seem to work on Node-WebKit. I'm not. What's the workflow here? It would be nice of you to provide some pointers. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
I use filters and lists a lot, combined with tags, to generate lists of people, lists of abbreviations, even lists of lists. The problem (if you can call it that) is that if the only time a tiddler is referenced is as part of a filtered list, then it shows up as an orphan. For example, I use journals to take notes every day. I have a List of Journals, but that is generated, so my orphans list is full of journals. I could create a tiddler and just list all the journals, so they are statically referenced and no longer orphans, but that seem inelegant. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions about this? Regards, Matthew Petty UAE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
My FF says I need a plugin to see this pdf http://tiddlywiki.com/#Motovun%20Jack.pdf Can you see it successfully? Which plugin would this be? Thanx :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Visual timeline widget plugin v0.8.1 released
Hi emkay and everyone, I think everybody agrees that this Plugin is very very useful. It seems not be updated so: - would it be possible to update it to be compatible with post-beta TW5? (I mean, are allowed to do this by our own in case no further official evolution is planned) - what are the required changes? - Is there any other plugin with similar visualization capabilities (I'd say charting would also be very good to have) ? Thank you very much, Cheers, Albert El martes, 10 de junio de 2014, 13:29:20 (UTC+2), Måns escribió: Hi Martin I have a couple of requests: 1) I can't use [is[current]] as a filter for your timeline plugin - I'd like to be able to create a template and show a timeline of all tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler title. 2) Will you please update your plugin to work with TW 5.012 ? I have a deadline next week where I should be able to present a working mangement/toDoList tool for my collegues - and your TimeLinePlugin is an essential part of it... Having to use TW ver. 5.08 for this particular presentation isn't ideal - especially because permalinking to single tiddlers wasn't available until ver. 5.012 - and my tool also depends on this feature... Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 15. marts 2014 13.08.16 UTC+1 skrev emkay: I have released an updated version of my vis.js based timeline plugin. The main changes that may be of interest are: * Removed list and tiddler attributes from widget - unified using the filter attribute * support 'now' as a value for the end date or start date fields * test for end dates before start date in timeline * In refresh handle a tiddler excluding itself from the timeline As usual, a demonstration of the widget and it's help tiddler can be seen at: http://emkayonline.github.io/tw5visjs You can install it by dragging it from the demonstration's ControlPanel into your wiki. It requires TW5 version = 5.0.8-beta. Full documentation, source and tests can be found at: https://github.com/emkayonline/tw5visjs Have fun, Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Context Search plugin updated
El martes, 20 de enero de 2015, 11:50:37 (UTC+1), Astrid Elocson escribió: Out of interest, I've just tried minifying a couple of large JS files from the core (boot.js and wiki,js) and a couple of small ones (addprefix.js and textparser.js). The result in each case was just under half the size of the original file. That is quite interesting. I have the opinion that the empty version of TW is too big right now. So I in favor of the minify process, even it looks like the opposite. I'm curious to see how big is an empty minified TW file. Maybe we can get a 500k file? Regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
Worked fine for me in FF on Win 8.1. I thought most PDF displays were plugin-free these days https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/view-pdf-files-firefox-without-downloading-them On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:27:24 PM UTC, Mat wrote: My FF says I need a plugin to see this pdf http://tiddlywiki.com/#Motovun%20Jack.pdf Can you see it successfully? Which plugin would this be? Thanx :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] 3D question - Is anyone doing it and is it possible
Alberto that is what started this line of thought was I saw that thread. Are there any other 3D examples? What other 3D things could be done and are being done? There are a variety of 3D viewing options coming on board soon. But how do you view data in 3D? Since TW is based on the web browser, and web browsers are adding and have 3D options how can that be leveraged by TiddlyWiki? Has it been leveraged yet? A lot of times I ask a question and find out that there is a bunch of stuff that has been created already. Thanks for all the help. Rich Shumaker -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in Node WebKit
Does this mean that one could write an admin / dev ui in TiddlyWiki to handle the build process / parameters / configuration / etc...? Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)
Hi Alberto, I must say your work is awsome. These plugins contain what I need, and in speaking of customisations, i can say I am trying hard to adapt your plugin to my needs. And I also can say I can't finalize it... I am trying to do this, for an help to a writer : character tiddlers, with three bottom tags filled with fields (describing the character), and forms to fill these fields. I hope I can do it one day. thank you anyway for your plugin. Bien cordialement Philippe Le dimanche 18 janvier 2015 19:18:47 UTC+1, Alberto Molina a écrit : Hi Danielo, Thanks for your kind words. I didn't have time enough to work on the plugin this week, neither to answer the last messages here. Since the plugin is still a work in progress, I'm much interested in your customisations and your use case to adapt the plugin, make it easier to customise, and add new tabs that could be useful for users like you. Would you let me see your customizations when you are finished? Regards, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions about this?
It seems like you're not so much concerened about interconnecting your
tidbits.
So, here's a question: Why bother?
However, if you don't like the orphans list as it is, you can experiment
changing the *filter* field in...
$:/core/Filters/Orphans
http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2FFilters%2FOrphans
There might possibly be components not yet making use of configurable
filters like that.
Probably, macros and plugins should consider this approach to make defaults
configurable.
Never new that these things work...
\define ref(foo:{{$:/core/Filters/Orphans!!filter}})
$foo$
\end
\define var(foo:currentTiddler)
$foo$
\end
\define data(foo:{{$:/palettes/Vanilla##background}})
$foo$
\end
* ref
* var
* data
Added here...
Variable Parameter Defaults @tb5
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Variable%20Parameter%20Defaults
Best wishes, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Edit tiddlers from my text editor
This may be of interest to you: http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#ExternalizePlugin On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:22:55 AM UTC-8, László Zsigmond wrote: Hello, I'm a newcomer, and I like TiddlyWiki a lot, thanks for all contributors! Only that I'm more familiar with my text editor (Notepad++) than with the text areas provided by browsers. I tried to separate the tiddlers part from the core code by creating a tiddly.txt by grabbing the tiddlers's html source code and pasting in there and then write there a javascript to just read in this file and write it out as html source code. It didn't worked just like that, I see javascripts should be defined in a TiddlyWiki way and so on... Did anyone else had this idea and where did he/she got with it? I saw that there is a tiddlers import/export plugin but that would mean that instead of direct editing I should have 4-5 additional steps per editings - this I won't do cause then my TiddlyWiki would be always out of sync with my file. Any good advice, directions for this? Thanks, Laszlo Zsigmond -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in Node WebKit
Hello Arlen, What do you need is a sync module that uses Node-webkit. I think you can base your work on the FS syncer. What is the difference between your first post instructions and tiddlydesktop or the instructions to make TW work on node webkit described here: http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20node-webkit ? El martes, 20 de enero de 2015, 16:39:08 (UTC+1), Arlen Beiler escribió: Sure looks like it. I've finally got the other format working as well where you have all the tiddlers in separate files. That was a little harder, but it works. Basically I had to use tiddlywiki.js and modify it a bit. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Does this mean that one could write an admin / dev ui in TiddlyWiki to handle the build process / parameters / configuration / etc...? Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
Is that really necessary even if the tiddler file is on my local computer? By external tiddler I simply meant it is outside of the TW file not on a different server. Unfortunately it is. Browsers are rather strict in accessing the local filesystem these days and considering all those extensions constantly talking to the web, they probably should. Personally, I would prefer a model where I can decide what gets which access to my filesystem and where. Somehow, noone seems to have bothered adding a little more flexibility, after it was stripped down ...on the browser front. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)
Hello Alberto. El domingo, 18 de enero de 2015, 19:18:47 (UTC+1), Alberto Molina escribió: Hi Danielo, Thanks for your kind words. Thank you for your work and support. Since the plugin is still a work in progress, I'm much interested in your customisations and your use case to adapt the plugin, make it easier to customise, and add new tabs that could be useful for users like you. Would you let me see your customizations when you are finished? Of course I can share with you my customizations. But currently they are very basic: I just created a new type, a new tab and I added it to the control panel. I have plans to put a link to the parent tiddler of each annotation (not just notes) in the control panel. I think is important to know where do you have those notes when you want to review, for example, your doubts or what is the note about. Regards. Regards, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
*\define concat(1 2 3 4 5) $1$$2$$3$$4$$5$concat {{ Hello There } }*
Interesting. I have added it to the above as
an example for the substitution and evaluation process.
Variable Parameter Defaults @tb5
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftb5.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23Variable%2520Parameter%2520Defaultssa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFBCFXY-PnxZEMCynbMeyDFyM9niw
Best wishes, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
In order to make the documentation clear and accurate, I've actually given this phenomenon a name: not all links are observable. Yes, there can be links to what is listed as an orphan. The criterion is that an orphan is one that does not have any hard-wired link-references. Perhaps orphans are a bit of an outdated concept with all the listing capabilities of these days which wikis of some distant past might not have had. Although, just being listed somewhere does not (necessarily) make for well integrated content... tied-in with all the other knowledge bits. Perhaps, rather than orphans, what would really be interesting is a tab that showed the number of backlinks for all tiddlers. Then you could see which tiddlers are heavily referenced and not only those that are not referenced at all. So, on that backlinks list, orphans would be but one type of entry. Likewise, an equivalent references tab might be interesting. Perhaps it's time to say good bye to a dedicated orphans tab which at best yields confusion or users never bothering to take a look. Anyhow, how to sort tiddlers by number of references, backlinks, tags?!? We may want a suffix to the sort filter, e.g [sort:count[tags]] [sort:count[tagging]] [sort:count[references]] [sort:count[backlinks]] Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: node,js install
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:05:30 PM UTC+1, Andy Pastuszak wrote: I decided to try Tiddlywiki on node.js. Install was extremely straightforward. When I click on save, it prompts me to download an html file. Is this normal behavior? If you run the tiddlywiki --server command every tiddler is automatically saved back to the disk. Your command line window will show you some debugging info if you run tiddlywiki --server ... --verbose . So you should see, what's going on. tiddlywiki --help ... should give you more info. If you click the save button, you get a download dialog. That's by design. It downloads a TW that contains all tiddlers. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:41:02 PM UTC+1, Astrid Elocson wrote: Do you think, the railroad grammar should be a tiddlywiki mime type, or should it have its own mime type. eg: text/x-railroad .. as long as it is experimental. I don't mind. An x- type would be fine. x-types are discouraged, when a syntax is out of experimental status. ... So x-types will definitely break some user content, when it's changed to vnd. later on. ... but that's what the x stands for :) Does the grammar you use have its own mime type? Or did you design it for TW? I designed it for TW, basing it on EBNF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Backus%E2%80%93Naur_Form. As it is based on EBNF, imo it should be a real subset of EBNF. So one could take tiddler content and convert it to full EBNF with a simple converter. Or even do an export with node tiddlywiki and some simple templates. more on this in a second post. Note that it contains syntax for linking to and transcluding tiddlers, so it really is very TW-specific. I did play with it and saw the TW specific stuff. Nice :) -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
Astrid Elocson wrote:
*\define concat(1 2 3 4 5) $1$$2$$3$$4$$5$concat {{ Hello There } }*
That's funny. If it hadn't been for the space between } } which I initially
assumed was a typo, I wouldn't have figured out what is happening.
@Tobias - for your page, a quick note on what *is* happening will probably
be good. Maybe Here is the string {{HelloThere}} split up to make five
parameter values or some such.
:-)
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[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
By the way, this discussion should really be in the TW5 thread I created after it was pointed out that I'd labelled this one TWC… https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/p-xfq5Jxq4I I suggest we move over there. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Title vs Caption. Why should titles be unique? Is there an internal ID for each tiddler?
Hi Pierre, In TiddlyWiki, titles are the unique ID of the tiddlers. I don't know why it is so, but I know that each design decision have pros and cons. There are several use cases where an ID different from the title would be better. But there are also several use cases where it would be worse. I think using the title is very intuitive, and it makes linking and transcluding very easy, among other things. I'm sure Jeremy considered different solutions when designing TW, and if he took that decision is because it's the better one for everybody or at least for most people and usecases. There are two things you can do : one is to adapt your workflow to TiddlyWiki as it is, the other is to adapt TiddlyWiki to your workflow, and TW is very adaptable, much more than any other similar software I know. Look at how others are using it, and even creating plugins to suit their needs. Best wishes, Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
An even better example would be something like:
*\define concat(1 2 3 4 5) $1$$2$$3$$4$$5$*
*concat abc{{ Getting Started } }def*
making it clearer that there's nothing special about *{{* and *}}* being
first and last in the macro's result string.
A counterexample would also be good:
*\define itself(x) $x$*
*itself {{GettingStarted}}*
That one *doesn't* transclude anything, because the return value of the
macro call is parsed in isolation, so it can't see the closing *}}* and so
doesn't match the syntax for a transclusion.
Pushing the edge cases still further:
*{{itself GettingStarted}}*
results in nothing at all. The macro call returns the string
*GettingStarted*, which the parser then recognises as a link – and this
link then makes no sense within the transclusion brackets.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
Thank you Peter. Problem fixed. Turns out I had set the default to not view it in FF but in my separate pdf viewer. For anyone else having the problem, here's a description https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/view-pdf-files-firefox-without-downloading-them - but you should do the opposite, i.e set it *to* *be* previewed in FF. :-) On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:02:23 PM UTC+1, Peter Miller wrote: Worked fine for me in FF on Win 8.1. I thought most PDF displays were plugin-free these days https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/view-pdf-files-firefox-without-downloading-them On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:27:24 PM UTC, Mat wrote: My FF says I need a plugin to see this pdf http://tiddlywiki.com/#Motovun%20Jack.pdf Can you see it successfully? Which plugin would this be? Thanx :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Imagemap in TW5?
Hi Tobias, I have very limited knowledge of css etc. but have created some drawings using SVG-edit after you recommended it. I've noticed that if you move particular elements of the drawing to individual layers, the layer name appears when you hover over the element in the tiddler. Would it be easy to somehow introduce a reference to another tiddler at the layer part of the code so that clicking on that part of the image would open the other tiddler? Apologies if this is what you've already done here Interactive SVG Image Map @ tb5 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Interactive%20SVG%20Image%20Map but this is too advanced for me and I wondered if the layer thing might be easier (for me to do) Thanks, Jon. On Saturday, 10 January 2015 17:33:53 UTC, Tobias Beer wrote: Not precisely; the way to open a tiddler with an HTML anchor link is to use a permalink like so: area shape=rect coords=159,82,230,154 href=#TiddlerName/ Perhaps also interesting... Using svg instead of a pixel-based image. Interactive SVG Image Map @ tb5 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Interactive%20SVG%20Image%20Map Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Free JavaScripts site! - how install?
I found this little treasure of javascripts: JavaScript Kit - Free JavaScripts http://www.javascriptkit.com/cutpastejava.shtml ...which makes me wonder, just how do I integrate a javascript into TW? And if it is not a direct procedure, is there any way to tell how tricky it would be? I find very little info on tw .com on this, probably Modules http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Modules is the most informative one, which is not much. If anyone is kind enough to answer, please note I'm not a programmer so I'd really appreciate the dummies version. You create a tiddler and set the type to XXX. You must surround the code with YYY and ZZZ. And for the core to execute it you must make sure that... BTW, that site also links to a site on DHTML. Is this something we can use in TW? Actually, other than JavaScript, HTML and CSS what is directly applicable in TW? I know jQuery is basically JavaScript so this should work, right? Other languages? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 11:39:07 PM UTC+1, Astrid Elocson wrote: I've done some more work on the railroad plugin. Great work! You can now store a diagram's notation in a dedicated tiddler of type *text/vnd.tiddlywiki.railroad*, and simply transclude that tiddler to wherever you want the diagram to show up. The explicit *$railroad* widget is still supported, of course, and won't ever be removed. Do you think, the railroad grammar should be a tiddlywiki mime type, or should it have its own mime type. eg: text/x-railroad .. as long as it is experimental. Does the grammar you use have its own mime type? Or did you design it for TW? text/vnd.tiddlywiki ... Is a vendor mime type that should be registered. (Which Jeremy didn't do yet) all text/vnd.tiddlywiki.xxx will have to be registered with it as well and are bound to TW if so. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Title vs Caption. Why should titles be unique? Is there an internal ID for each tiddler?
While Jeremy is probably the one to answer why maybe using the toolbar Clone button is a practical solution for you? This creates *Banking Crisis 1*, *Banking Crisis 2* etc. No thnking needed. In that original tiddler, you could also include a tag titled with the tiddler title itself! This will make clones from it tagged with Banking Crisis. This way it would be very easy to list them all in that original tiddler. If you don't want to have to open the Banking Crisis tiddler to create these tiddlers you can make a New tiddler button using *Banking Crisis* as a template/skeleton. This will also create Banking Crisis 1, Banking Crisis 2 etc. For the cloned tiddlers you'd just have to add the Mish http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.se/ and Mrs Parker http://jugglingdynamite.com/ tags ;-) but as tags they are easy to reuse since they appear ready to click in the dropdown list. You may also want to check out Tobias new baby xlist for cross referencing and having the tiddlers listed either by Topic or by Person. Let's just hope you won't have to create too many of those *Banking Crises* tiddlers though... :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
Hi Mario, Thank you for filling in some gaps in my knowledge of the *vnd.* and *x-* prefixes. Do you think, the railroad grammar should be a tiddlywiki mime type, or should it have its own mime type. eg: text/x-railroad .. as long as it is experimental. I don't mind. An x- type would be fine. Does the grammar you use have its own mime type? Or did you design it for TW? I designed it for TW, basing it on EBNF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Backus%E2%80%93Naur_Form. Note that it contains syntax for linking to and transcluding tiddlers, so it really is very TW-specific. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
So x-types will definitely break some user content, when it's changed to
vnd. later on.
There's no technical reason why we couldn't support both. More than one
MIME type can be attached to the same TiddlyWiki parser module.
As it is based on EBNF, imo it should be a real subset of EBNF.
EBNF is great for formal grammar analysis, but it wasn't designed for ease
of producing railroad diagrams. For example, as far as I know, EBNF has no
compact way to express the separator in a list. But that's a specific
component of railroad diagrams, and is represented in my notation as *{
item +separator }*.
So one could take tiddler content and convert it to full EBNF with a
simple converter.
That's a very interesting idea. But you'd need a formalism for how the rest
of the tiddler should be laid out. Bear in mind that a railroad diagram
represents just one rule of a grammar, whereas EBNF is a list of rules.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
Reading files by selecting with an input or drag and drop and then being able to get certain properties is not the same as handling them via embedding. But the important question is... Why are you asking any of this? Ok, I'm asking because of (still) the Federation thoughts. I'm trying to identify possible routes for this to see what advantages and disadvantages there are with different methods... even if I so far haven't really found any method at all. Dragn'drop is, I guess, the most intuitively simpe since this is what we do for general import but, failing that, I'm thinking maybe visiting a tiddler via an iframe and using its own toolbar export command to download it to your local file is something we might be able to automate. I hope to find the best technical solution for something that will not turn out to be a dead end for some later desired Federation features. Then to bring this to Eric so he could create a first proof of concept that is exciting enough so others will see the potential and want help take it further. Digression: I can't let go of the Federation thoughts because I'm sure this will revolutionize our little community. It will open up for social behaviour in a completely different way than now. I think special interest groups will form, micro-communites if you will, that will naturally lead to much more application oriented solutions in TW. For instance, the authors, the graphical artists, the mathematicians will have incentive to develop a great set of tools and themes for their respecitve niche group. This will, in turn, make it much *more* easy to attract people to TW. Hey *physics teachers* there is a special wiki tool just for you!, Setting up a business? Here's the *web shop* toolkit! Currently TW demands a lot of imagination and investigation, even for very competent and technical people, because it is not obvious what it can be used for. Forgive me if the things I bring up on this are a bit all over the place but I'm a bit in the dark. Regarding That requires a server for TiddlyWiki to talk to and make XmlHttpRequests delivering the tiddlers wrapped in the expected response. So, just accessing the filesystem won't do that for you. I just found a thread on How do I load the contents of a text file into a javascript variable? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/196498/how-do-i-load-the-contents-of-a-text-file-into-a-javascript-variable which mentions some fudgery (sounds tasty!) I figure this means the full contents could be pulled into a script and then one could use the fieldnames as identifiers for various parts. That should work, right? It also brings up JSONP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSONP. On wikipedia it says Note that for JSONP to work, a server must know how to reply with JSONP-formatted results. - but this should not be a problem in TW because both ends are TWs, right? I figure there must be some advantage that we know that the communicatinon between server and the client is in TW. Do programmers generally know about JASONP - (and specifically Jeremy, I wonder)? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TWC] Next stop on the railroad
So one could take tiddler content and convert it to full EBNF with a simple converter. More on this! While converting EBNF to a railroad diagram is non-trivial, it would be pretty easy to go the other way. It would just need an additional pragma for specifying the name of the rule (i.e. the nonterminal) being defined in the diagram. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Search
Hi Tobias, Thanks, I think I got it working in my wiki. Alan On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alan, I don't think I am seeing any problem. Be sure to use the latest version from tb5, though. Custom Search Tab Exact @ tb5 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Custom%20Search%20Tab%20Exact Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/tHsXzzZ61NU/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Title vs Caption. Why should titles be unique? Is there an internal ID for each tiddler?
I wrote many programs over the years, perhaps long before Jeremy. I can't think of any system online or offline where unique things don't get unique IDs, from part numbers for paper-based inventories to computerized records of drivers licenses. The whole of point of computing is to automate and thus relieve anyone of cognitive overload. While the design decision as it stands is easier for the programmer, it's not easier for the user. One way to have solved the issue of by duplicate title during transclusion would have been to simply by detect the transclusion action, producing a list of all tiddlers from which a user could select the one desired. Linking could have worked in an alike manner. That said, the Tiddly products are good, otherwise. Tiddly 5 seems overwhelming at times as there are so many goodies and perhaps too many ways to solve the same problem. I am quite sure there are more than two acts (things) I could do, but thanks for your two things suggestion, Alberto. In the end, I'll work around it. I suppose I could create an alternative default template that uses a caption field where the title field displays and autogen a title field using the caption field as title, appending a timestamp and coverting that string to base 64. Thanks. On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 4:18:36 PM UTC-8, Alberto Molina wrote: Hi Pierre, In TiddlyWiki, titles are the unique ID of the tiddlers. I don't know why it is so, but I know that each design decision have pros and cons. There are several use cases where an ID different from the title would be better. But there are also several use cases where it would be worse. I think using the title is very intuitive, and it makes linking and transcluding very easy, among other things. I'm sure Jeremy considered different solutions when designing TW, and if he took that decision is because it's the better one for everybody or at least for most people and usecases. There are two things you can do : one is to adapt your workflow to TiddlyWiki as it is, the other is to adapt TiddlyWiki to your workflow, and TW is very adaptable, much more than any other similar software I know. Look at how others are using it, and even creating plugins to suit their needs. Best wishes, Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!
Where is the best place to put it up? Can you think of somewhere? Imagine if there were a few people around you who also enjoyed TiddlyWiki that you could tiddlefiddle with :-) The best way to put it up is during foss events anywhere in the world. I wish to use it in fossasia 2015* in Singapore coming in March. Is there any mention about CC license accompanying the posters? For asians target, I think the diamond shaped figure will attract more. Putting more colors on the fish scales are also good though using the fish may like representing garbage in garbage out. *twitter @fossasia - fossasia.org Handoko - On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 3:17:39 AM UTC+7, Tobias Beer wrote: I really like the poster and was only commenting on the title. I think Your thoughts. Organized sounds stronger and avoids any messy associations. +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Title vs Caption. Why should titles be unique? Is there an internal ID for each tiddler?
Yes, Mat, thanks, I make use of the clone function already. It beats having to type the same tags. As well, once a Tiddly file grows to 3.5 Mb in size, the tagging suggestion feature comes to a standstill almost. It becomes painfully slow to edit a Tiddly file at that size or larger. Your thoughts are good and I shall avail myself of yours. On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8, Mat wrote: While Jeremy is probably the one to answer why maybe using the toolbar Clone button is a practical solution for you? This creates *Banking Crisis 1*, *Banking Crisis 2* etc. No thnking needed. In that original tiddler, you could also include a tag titled with the tiddler title itself! This will make clones from it tagged with Banking Crisis. This way it would be very easy to list them all in that original tiddler. If you don't want to have to open the Banking Crisis tiddler to create these tiddlers you can make a New tiddler button using *Banking Crisis* as a template/skeleton. This will also create Banking Crisis 1, Banking Crisis 2 etc. For the cloned tiddlers you'd just have to add the Mish http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.se/ and Mrs Parker http://jugglingdynamite.com/ tags ;-) but as tags they are easy to reuse since they appear ready to click in the dropdown list. You may also want to check out Tobias new baby xlist for cross referencing and having the tiddlers listed either by Topic or by Person. Let's just hope you won't have to create too many of those *Banking Crises* tiddlers though... :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Changing an Image from Embedded to _canonical_uri
Do you mean that you have tagged all the tiddlers to be changed with [[Special Tag]]? BJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 7:59:54 PM UTC-6, RichShumaker wrote: I have a bunch of JPEG's that I put directly into my TW5 before I saw the _canonical_uri light. I have all the images in the same place and I can easily change each by hand to _canonical_uri, it just takes time, lots of time. I wanted to know if there is an easier way to 'change' an Embedded Jpeg to _canonical_uri. Here is what I have, I have created a [[Special Tag]] for all the Jpegs and I need to have a 'field name' of '_canonical_uri' with the file location added to the 'field value'. Ex. The Tiddler is named 'Picture.jpg' then the file location is images/Picture.jpg. So I need to add the *field name* '_canonical_uri' with *field value* 'images/[[TiddlerName]]'. Half way through I figured out that probably the best way to do this is to massage the data using JSON. Arg now I need to figure that out. Okay so if anyone has a different way to do this trick let me know. If you have any questions about what I am trying to do let me know. Thanks again everyone for all the help. Rich Shumaker -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Changing an Image from Embedded to _canonical_uri
I have a bunch of JPEG's that I put directly into my TW5 before I saw the _canonical_uri light. I have all the images in the same place and I can easily change each by hand to _canonical_uri, it just takes time, lots of time. I wanted to know if there is an easier way to 'change' an Embedded Jpeg to _canonical_uri. Here is what I have, I have created a [[Special Tag]] for all the Jpegs and I need to have a 'field name' of '_canonical_uri' with the file location added to the 'field value'. Ex. The Tiddler is named 'Picture.jpg' then the file location is images/Picture.jpg. So I need to add the *field name* '_canonical_uri' with *field value* 'images/[[TiddlerName]]'. Half way through I figured out that probably the best way to do this is to massage the data using JSON. Arg now I need to figure that out. Okay so if anyone has a different way to do this trick let me know. If you have any questions about what I am trying to do let me know. Thanks again everyone for all the help. Rich Shumaker -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in Node WebKit
What do you need is a sync module that uses Node-webkit. I think you can base your work on the FS syncer. I actually think I got it working for both single file and node.js style. The single file one needed a hack to bootprefix.js (in order to work right) and a Saver module which I based off the tiddlyfox saver. I guess that's the same thing as a syncer. If you're running the Node.JS version (like you download from GitHub), you don't even need the browser-server sync, because the server and the browser are one. Literally. So all changes in the browser go directly to the Node FileSystemSaver or whatever it is. What is the difference between your first post instructions and tiddlydesktop or the instructions to make TW work on node webkit described here: http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20node-webkit ? That I don't know. Those instructions didn't work for me (because of the bootprefix.js problem), and all you need to do is just paste the file url into node-webkit and it loads it like a regular file. You don't actually need the package.json. TiddlyDesktop sounded a bit complicated, and I wanted to see if there was an easier way. I don't know what features it has beyond a regular tiddlywiki, though. -Arlen On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Arlen, What do you need is a sync module that uses Node-webkit. I think you can base your work on the FS syncer. What is the difference between your first post instructions and tiddlydesktop or the instructions to make TW work on node webkit described here: http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20node-webkit ? El martes, 20 de enero de 2015, 16:39:08 (UTC+1), Arlen Beiler escribió: Sure looks like it. I've finally got the other format working as well where you have all the tiddlers in separate files. That was a little harder, but it works. Basically I had to use tiddlywiki.js and modify it a bit. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean that one could write an admin / dev ui in TiddlyWiki to handle the build process / parameters / configuration / etc...? Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Edit tiddlers from my text editor
Hi Tobias, Thanks for the reply. If you get the feeling, I have good news, if you are using FireFox you can use It's All Text extension to be able to edit the textareas in your editor. My goal would have been to have a text file as database for TiddlyWiki so that I could edit it directly, editing the one div tag per tiddler wouldn't be such a pain as editing from the browser - but the above mentioned extension solves it. Thanks, Laci marți, 20 ianuarie 2015, 20:36:44 UTC+2, Tobias Beer a scris: Hi Laszo, I get the feeling you are trying to directly edit a full TiddlyWiki in your text-editor. Don't do that, unless you're trying to fix a broken TiddlyWiki. Handling the html entities is no fun. Better use node.js to handle individual tiddlers in plain text in your editor of choice and then build your wiki from it. However, what would be interesting was a distraction free editor in TiddlyWiki that allows to fullscreen on edit-mode leaving you with a clean ui FocusWriter-style and basic text editing support, e.g. search/replace. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] 3D question - Is anyone doing it and is it possible
Well that example has very little to do with leveraging tiddlywiki itselft for 3D, you see that 3D model was done completely outside TW5 and simply imported as an HTML tiddler. Now as a fully static 3D model, it has no possible input of any kind. I am no coder and I am unable to do anythyng more complex, but I know that like many modern web technologies WebGL is supposed to be an integral part of the webpage its sits on, so with the necessary skiils one could theoretically do dynamic stuff that interacted or received it's data from tiddlywiki, like some sort of 3D graph or visualization. Again this is way beyond my skill level. On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:02:41 UTC, RichShumaker wrote: Alberto that is what started this line of thought was I saw that thread. Are there any other 3D examples? What other 3D things could be done and are being done? There are a variety of 3D viewing options coming on board soon. But how do you view data in 3D? Since TW is based on the web browser, and web browsers are adding and have 3D options how can that be leveraged by TiddlyWiki? Has it been leveraged yet? A lot of times I ask a question and find out that there is a bunch of stuff that has been created already. Thanks for all the help. Rich Shumaker -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Edit tiddlers from my text editor
Anyway, thank you a lot because fom the ExternalizePlugin I got to the FireFox plugin It's All Text! which is a brilliant plugin! The textareas can be edited from my editor of choice and when I save end exit from it, it will insert it back my edited version, well this is just great news for me. :-) Thanks guys, Laci miercuri, 21 ianuarie 2015, 07:55:58 UTC+2, Arc Acorn a scris: This is why we really need to do something about the group setup. The honer system with Tagging all post TW5 and TWC and the random name takeover of TW5 as TW is just confusing and annoying. On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:30:40 PM UTC-8, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 7:35:16 PM UTC+1, Arc Acorn wrote: This may be of interest to you: http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#ExternalizePlugin This is TWclassic and won't work for TiddlyWiki! -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] css and transclusion
Hi,
I have 2 transcluded tiddlers with an image in each and I want to adjust
them so they appear side by side. How do I apply css to {{mytiddler}} to
adjust its position?
Thanks, Jon
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[tw] Re: Edit tiddlers from my text editor
This is why we really need to do something about the group setup. The honer system with Tagging all post TW5 and TWC and the random name takeover of TW5 as TW is just confusing and annoying. On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:30:40 PM UTC-8, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 7:35:16 PM UTC+1, Arc Acorn wrote: This may be of interest to you: http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#ExternalizePlugin This is TWclassic and won't work for TiddlyWiki! -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Edit tiddlers from my text editor
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 7:35:16 PM UTC+1, Arc Acorn wrote: This may be of interest to you: http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#ExternalizePlugin This is TWclassic and won't work for TiddlyWiki! -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in Node WebKit
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 4:10:47 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Does this mean that one could write an admin / dev ui in TiddlyWiki to handle the build process / parameters / configuration / etc...? Yes. Have a look here https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases at New Architecture -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
Hi Matthew, The problem (if you can call it that) is that if the only time a tiddler is referenced is as part of a filtered list, then it shows up as an orphan. Coincidentally, I'm currently revising the documentation of all the filter operators, and I've noticed a very similar problem. The system for detecting links (and hence also backlinks, orphans and missing tiddlers) doesn't detect links that are: * contained in text trancluded from elsewhere * supplied via a macro or variable * generated by a link widget whose *to* attribute is a transclusion, macro or variable In order to make the documentation clear and accurate, I've actually given this phenomenon a name: not all links are observable. However, in your case, the only link is in fact a mention in a filter, which I wouldn't expect to count as a link by any definition. A simple solution for you might be to ignore the standard Orphans tab, and instead create your own list with a more specialised filter, e.g. *[all[orphans]!tag[Journal]]* – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] node,js install
I decided to try Tiddlywiki on node.js. Install was extremely straightforward. When I click on save, it prompts me to download an html file. Is this normal behavior? Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
Here is some stuff I think may be relevant; Read Textfiles Using the JavaScript FileReader http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/javascript/read-text-files-using-the-javascript-filereader.html#fbid=bm-BAf8h32m (2013) How to read local files http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh580307%28v=vs.85%29.aspx Reading files in JavaScrip using the fiel APIs http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/dndfiles/ (2010) Do you think any of it is applicable? Thanks! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Lists, Filters and Orphans - thoughts
$:/core/Filters/Orphans
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftiddlywiki.com%2F%23%2524%253A%252Fcore%252FFilters%252FOrphanssa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGUYLEDQgIE5-fIbWEROK-8Q5M98A
That tiddler is only used for populating the dropdown list on the Filter
tab of Advanced Search.
Variable Parameter Defaults @tb5
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftb5.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23Variable%2520Parameter%2520Defaultssa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFBCFXY-PnxZEMCynbMeyDFyM9niw
Those work because macro parameters are dumb. They're just simple strings
of characters, and not parsed at all. This is true both of the default
values specified on the *\define* line, and of the values passed when a
macro is called.
A macro call returns a string that is the value/definition of the
underlying variable/macro, with any *$parameter$* placeholders filled in
via trivial textual replacement. Only once the string has been returned
does it finally get parsed.
For the same reason, the following weirdness also works:
*\define concat(1 2 3 4 5) $1$$2$$3$$4$$5$concat {{ Hello There } }*
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[tw] Re: node,js install
Did you run the server or just build it? Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Which plugin to see Motovun Jack.pdf ?
Reading files by selecting with an input or drag and drop and then being able to get certain properties is not the same as handling them via embedding. But the important question is... Why are you asking any of this? Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
