[tw] Re: remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

[Tristan Kohl]

Hi Giovanni,

this is awesome! Just when I came into problems with my many small wikis 
using up all my storage and started digging into some TiddlyWeb setup for 
myself to solve this you came as my saviour :)

I heard of remoteStorage before but never used it to be honest since there 
were not so many apps that brought me any benefits.

I will definitely check this out and finally use my years old 5apps account 
for something useful. Thank you so much for this.

Cheers,
Tristan

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[tw] Re: Broken with macro calls

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

As a starter, there's an error in your macro. It should be "$i$", not "$i".

Good luck!

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On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:17:50 PM UTC-8, Iain wrote:
>
> I'm trying to construct a tabulated listing of tiddlers using the 
> following template. In the  element, "order" is an attribute, and it's 
> value XXX is the tiddler's position in the title list (not shown in 
> example).
>
> <$list filter="filter goes here">
>   
> 
>   
> 
>
> As I've discovered, tiddlywiki macros don't do simple text substituion at 
> all, so doing something obvious like
>
> \define makerow(i) 
>
> <$list filter="filter goes here">
>   <$macrocall $name="makerow" i=<> />
> 
>   
> 
>
> doesn't work because the substition works fine, but the macro output then 
> seems to be rendered into the DOM tree as  a , but NOT 
> wrapped around my row contents (and the  in the source is now an 
> orphaned end element).
>
> Can anyone instruct me on how I can produce  elements so they get the 
> correct attribute value and wrap my row contents - the row contents in the 
> sample is quite complicated, so I suspect it'll break tiddlywiki if the 
> answer is to move the lot up into the macro.
>
> Cheers, Iain
>

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[tw] How to concatenate < and a tiddler field value for use as a new tiddler title

[markhylton2]

I've two things I want to do:

1) I want to use the current date/time as part of a concatenated string for 
a new tiddler title.
2) I want to use the value of a field from the host tiddler as part of a 
concatentated string for a new tiddler title.
3) I want to use 1) and 2) at the same time for the same new tiddler.

E.g.:

A host tiddler has a field "projectnumber" and that tiddler also hosts a 
transcluded tiddler "newProjectEntry". "newProjectEntry" holds <$button>
code to create a new tiddler. Clicking the newProjectEntry button from the 
host tiddler is intended to generate a new tiddler with a title "2018-02-01 
09:57:04, 12345, Project entry:" where:

   1. "2018-02-01 09:57:04" is the value from <> when the button 
   is clicked.
  1. Issue 1: I can get a date/time string, but it is the date/time AT 
  THE TIME that tiddler "newProjectEntry" is rendered in the host tiddler, 
  not at the time the button was pressed.
  2. Issue 2: Otherwise, I get the text string "<>" instead of 
  the rendered version for <>.
  3. Issue 3. Or otherwise, I get the proper date/time, but am unable 
  to concatenate a looked-up project number.
   2. "12345" is the value of host tiddler's projectnumber field.
  1. Issue 1: I can get the host tidder's title ("<>"), 
  but the construct "<>" doesn't seem to work.
   3. "Project entry:" (and the other spaces and commas) are text literals.
  1. No issues here. I've mostly had sufficient guidance on how to 
  concatenate things. So far. I think.
   

What I've written:

Tiddler 1 fields:

> Title:hostTiddler
> projectnumber:12345
> Text:{{newProjectEntryPB}}
>

Tiddler 2 fields:

> Title:newProjectEntryPB
> Text:\define projecttitle() $(todaynow)$, $(projectnum)$, Project entry:
>
> <$set name="todaynow" value=<>>
> <$set name="projectnum" value={{<>}}>
>
> Need a new project entry? Click this button and a project tiddler will be 
> created:
> <$button>
>   New project entry
>   <$action-sendmessage
>  $message="tm-new-tiddler"
>  title=<>
>   />
> 
>
> 
>

When the button is clicked from within hostTiddler, it generates a new 
tiddler with the title:
2018-02-21 18:36:34, , Project entry:

1) Issue: The date/time is not current with the button press.
2) Issue: Unable to get the project number value from the host tiddler.

Thanks much for your help!

Mark Hylton

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[tw] self-made macro is inconsistent... why?

[Darin Wick]

I defined a macro "tasklist" (well, heavily modified a macro I found 
elsewhere) in a tiddler called $:/macros/tasklist and tagged it 
$:/tags/Macro.  I call <> in several other tiddlers.  At first, 
the task list displays as expected.  But every time I close my wiki and 
re-open it, the calls to <> produce nothing... until I open 
$:/macros/tasklist, and then everything works perfectly.  

Am I doing something wrong?  I'm using NoteSelf rather than plain TW5 - 
could that be the cause, since $:/macros/tasklist is stored in PouchDB 
rather than the file?  

Any advice/suggestions would be much appreciated...

Thanks!

Darin Wick

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[tw] Broken with macro calls

[Iain]

I'm trying to construct a tabulated listing of tiddlers using the following 
template. In the  element, "order" is an attribute, and it's value XXX 
is the tiddler's position in the title list (not shown in example).

<$list filter="filter goes here">
  

  


As I've discovered, tiddlywiki macros don't do simple text substituion at 
all, so doing something obvious like

\define makerow(i) 

<$list filter="filter goes here">
  <$macrocall $name="makerow" i=<> />

  


doesn't work because the substition works fine, but the macro output then 
seems to be rendered into the DOM tree as  a , but NOT 
wrapped around my row contents (and the  in the source is now an 
orphaned end element).

Can anyone instruct me on how I can produce  elements so they get the 
correct attribute value and wrap my row contents - the row contents in the 
sample is quite complicated, so I suspect it'll break tiddlywiki if the 
answer is to move the lot up into the macro.

Cheers, Iain

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Re: [tw] Re: Online/Offline Sync & Version Control

[Darin Wick]

Danielo,



I think I posted this shortly before the new release - which resolved one of 
the issues I opened, too!  I'm interested in working to resolve the "delete 
local database"/authentication enhancement but have little free time and lots 
to learn, so it might be a while.  



Thanks again for the recent release!  



-Darin





 On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:26:29 -0800 Danielo Rodríguez 
rdani...@gmail.com wrote 








El viernes, 5 de enero de 2018, 23:17:58 (UTC+1), Darin Wick escribió:

Right now NoteSelf seems to have all the features I want, but I don't see any 
activity in the github repository in the last six months.  I'm a little 
hesitant to start using something that isn't actively maintained.  



That is weird.

I made a release very recently,  I answer all the issues that got open on the 
github repository and  I've been fixing bugs recently. How can you see no 
activity ?



In the other hand, not making a commit on six months does not mean a project is 
abandoned or not maintained. It means that the HUMANS that are behind it does 
not have time to work on that.



And even if it is not maintained, it is an open source project, so potentially 
anyone can take the challenge of maintaining it or even forking it. But people 
prefer to open issues instead of pull requests.



Another thing to think about is that people have been using TW for more than 
ten years without problem, and most of them are using a very old unmaintained 
version.



The summary is: NoteSelf is being maintained, and with the current 
functionality, based on open standards it should work for many years.



Regards




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[tw] Re: Wikipedia, Text Slicer Edition & Pandoc

[TonyM]

As much as I like tiddlywiki to be self sufficent, including its wikitext rules 
in a utility makes sence because it enables conversion between many different 
formats. 
Tony

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[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Thanks Mark S.

I didn't understand. I do now. YES. It could be quite easy for me as I now 
understand what you saying. Decent text editors support "vertical paste" so 
it would be easy to get a number on each line and then in TW regex it into 
position.

BUT I'm still playing with "how to do this without leaving TW". Yesterday I 
was playing with transcluding a list of the 1000 numbers vertically next to 
a transclusion of content that needs enumerating to see if one could 
generate a (surface level) copyable text to go back into processing. So far 
no good as the selection is columnised.

Best wishes
Josiah 

Mark S. wrote:
>
> What I'm suggesting is that you don't need the counters -- you create a 
> 1000 rules to apply a 1000 counts, one after the other. Building up those 
> rules shouldn't take long in a good text editor (especially one's like 
> Emacs that have column modes).
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:28:15 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Mark S & coda coder
>>
>> For your further ideas -- molto grazie.
>>
>> coda coder wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure if I've understood correctly, but, that draft seems to 
>>> suggest that in Firefox you *may* be able to set user-select, either in 
>>> the parent element or in the before/after pseudo element itself:
>>
>>
>> Right. There is a lot of ambiguity and no clear outcome. Its clear its an 
>> issue.
>>
>> I tried a few different tests on user-select. Got it to work but not 
>> (yet) on any generated pseudo bits. I try a bit more before giving up.
>>
>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with how your regex tools work. Do they re-iterate 
>>> until there are no more changes to be made?
>>>
>>
>> I'm using BJ's Flexity plugin that allows sequences of RegEx to be run 
>> before the main parser kicks in. Iteration continues freely if you want, 
>> until done. Basically its raw access to JS regex in its full form.
>>  
>>
>>> If so, then I'm thinking that rules like this at the very end:
>>>
>>> /(.*?)#startmarker#/$1 0001#endmarker#/
>>> /(.*?)#startmarker#/$1 0002#endmarker#/
>>>  etc.
>>>
>>> Might brute force what you want. 
>>>
>>
>> The problem is getting the counters. Whilst some JS (edit: I meant Regex) 
>> implementations when you get a capturing group you can return both the 
>> string and the match index (i.e. return the match count value as well as 
>> the string content) in JS, as far as I know, you can return the string 
>> matched with the captured group, but you can't access the COUNT of the 
>> match, even though you can use it. IF you could then I could use that to 
>> build the indices I need.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

[BurningTreeC]

Thank you, Giovanni!

Now it's much more clear to me - and it confirms that it does what I wished 
it would!

Could it also handle more storages than one? let's say 
$:/tiddlers/like/this -> storage1, $:/tiddlers/like/that -> storage2 ?
It's just an idea, I think it's already very cool what you've made!

BTC

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Re: [tw] Re: remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

[Giovanni P]

The idea behind remoteStorage is to decouple the app provider from the
storage provider.

In a normal app today, Google Sheets, for example, Google provides both the
app (the actual spreadsheet app) and the storage (the content you type into
the spreadsheet is stored on Google servers), the app is thus hopelessly
tangled with the store.

remoteStorage is a protocol (really just some data formats and endpoints)
that storage providers and app providers can adhere to so the app becomes
untangled from the store, enalbing the end-users to use the same app with
different storage providers and/or pass the stored data from one app to a
different app that will use it somewhat differently.

How close this was to an explanation a non-developer can understand?
Let me try again with an example:

In this case the APP is TiddlyWiki + remoteStorage plugin.
The DATA is the collection of tiddlers you produce.
The STORES are any server that talks the remoteStorage protocol, 5apps.com,
CozyCloud, IndieHosters or a server you can run yourself.

Separatedly, there's my https://tiddly.alhur.es//
server. We could say it is a different APP that uses the same DATA,
fetching it from the one of STORES the user wants.

Later, someone can write a different APP that will use the same DATA, for
example, an app that will download all the tiddlers from a remoteStorage
namespace and produce a single TiddlyWiki HTML file, or a bunch of HTML
files in static fashion like https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki, or
something else entirely.

(TiddlyWiki already supports multiple types of storage, but since they
aren't remoteStorage-compliant we aren't concerned with them right now.)

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 5:20 PM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> There you go with your first star on your GitHub repo! :)
>
> I think I haven't understood all the possibilities your plugin adds, but
> it sounds and looks very cool!
>
> Would you mind to explain in non-developer words a little bit of what you
> can do with remoteStorage?
>
> all the best,
>
> BTC
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[tw] Re: How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[Joe Armstrong]

On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:43:32 UTC+1, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> *Background color by tag*:  See 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles%20by%20tag
>
> *Buttons on tagged tiddlers*.  You're going to want to use a 
> ViewTemplate.  A ViewTemplate is a tiddler tagged with 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate.  It gets used as a template for every tiddler in the 
> story river, so you probably want to start it with something like 
> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[Now]]">
> ...button code goes here...
> 
>
> *Buttons that add and remove tags*.  You're probably going to want to use 
> action widgets.  Something along the line of
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Later" />
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Now" />
> Move to Later
> 
> Refer to  https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSendMessageWidget  and 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Messages for more info about that.  
>
>
Ok so now I have created exactly two tiddlers

FeedTheCats
   has two tags 'Now' and '$:/tags/ViewTemplate'
   and content
  I must feed the cats

$:/tags/ViewTemplate
   has the following content

<$list filter="[is[current]tag[Now]]">
  <$button>
   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Later" />
  <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Now" /> 
   Move to later
   

 
The result of this is that the tiddler FeedTheCats now says

  I must feed the cats
 
  I must feed the cats

ie the text is repeated - not exactly though, the lower line is in a 
slightly smaller font than the
first line

So I'm tad confused.

Incidentally the initial value of ViewTemplate was empty - I'm not sure why

What can I try next?

/Joe


>
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:24:33 PM UTC-5, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> I want to make a triage system in TW5 - tasks are tagged 'now' 'later' 
>> and 'done'
>>
>> My simple minded approach is as follows:
>>
>>1. A tiddler can be tagged 'now' 'later' or 'done'
>>2. if a tiddler has the tag 'now' its background should be red and it 
>>should have two buttons 'Move to Later' and 'Move to Done'
>>3. if I press 'Move to Later' the tag 'now' should be removed and a 
>>'later' tag should be added. If I press 'Move to done' the 'now' tag 
>> should 
>>be removed and a 'done' tag should be added.
>>4. Similar rules for treatment of the 'later' and 'done' tags.
>>
>> How should I proceed?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /Joe
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BTC

Don't try this at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9ssQSV6UA

@TiddlyTweeter :-)

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[tw] Re: How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[Matthew Lauber]

Ok, coming back to this and fleshing it out, there's a piece I missed, the 
field mangler.   you should be able to use the attached .tid file to 
transition from now to later.

Matt

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 2:37:17 PM UTC-5, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:43:32 UTC+1, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> *Background color by tag*:  See 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles%20by%20tag
>>
>> *Buttons on tagged tiddlers*.  You're going to want to use a 
>> ViewTemplate.  A ViewTemplate is a tiddler tagged with 
>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate.  It gets used as a template for every tiddler in the 
>> story river, so you probably want to start it with something like 
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[Now]]">
>> ...button code goes here...
>> 
>>
>> *Buttons that add and remove tags*.  You're probably going to want to 
>> use action widgets.  Something along the line of
>> <$button>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Later" />
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Now" />
>> Move to Later
>> 
>> Refer to  https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSendMessageWidget  and 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Messages for more info about that.  
>>
>>
> Ok so now I have created exactly two tiddlers
>
> FeedTheCats
>has two tags 'Now' and '$:/tags/ViewTemplate'
>and content
>   I must feed the cats
>
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate
>has the following content
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[Now]]">
>   <$button>
><$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Later" />
>   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Now" /> 
>Move to later
>
> 
>  
> The result of this is that the tiddler FeedTheCats now says
>
>   I must feed the cats
>  
>   I must feed the cats
>
> ie the text is repeated - not exactly though, the lower line is in a 
> slightly smaller font than the
> first line
>
> So I'm tad confused.
>
> Incidentally the initial value of ViewTemplate was empty - I'm not sure why
>
> What can I try next?
>
> /Joe
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:24:33 PM UTC-5, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to make a triage system in TW5 - tasks are tagged 'now' 'later' 
>>> and 'done'
>>>
>>> My simple minded approach is as follows:
>>>
>>>1. A tiddler can be tagged 'now' 'later' or 'done'
>>>2. if a tiddler has the tag 'now' its background should be red and 
>>>it should have two buttons 'Move to Later' and 'Move to Done'
>>>3. if I press 'Move to Later' the tag 'now' should be removed and a 
>>>'later' tag should be added. If I press 'Move to done' the 'now' tag 
>>> should 
>>>be removed and a 'done' tag should be added.
>>>4. Similar rules for treatment of the 'later' and 'done' tags.
>>>
>>> How should I proceed?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> /Joe
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

[BurningTreeC]

There you go with your first star on your GitHub repo! :)

I think I haven't understood all the possibilities your plugin adds, but it 
sounds and looks very cool!

Would you mind to explain in non-developer words a little bit of what you 
can do with remoteStorage?

all the best,

BTC

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[tw] Re: Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... (aka Saying Succinctly What TW Is About ...)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

"... writing articles using transclusion is an eye opener -- it changes how 
I think." -- @joeerl on Twitter 


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[tw] Re: How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[BurningTreeC]

Hi Joe,

all Tiddlers tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate get used AS A VIEWTEMPLATE

so the content of your newly tagged tiddler will also be shown on any other 
tiddler when not in "edit-mode"

that's the purpose of the tag $:/tags/ViewTemplate

Simon

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[tw] Re: How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

['Surya' via TiddlyWiki]

Ohhh, never forget or move feeding your fur-monsters AND making the cats 
toilet to "later"  ;-)))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZq3_mASEbo

Miauu, Surya

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[tw] remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

[Giovanni Parra]

I've just created this remoteStorage plugin 
 that 
autosaves individual tiddlers to a remoteStorage server 
 and would like to get some feedback and perhaps 
some people using it.

I'm just starting to use TiddlyWiki myself (I wrote the plugin before 
starting to use it), so please forgive me if I've misunderstood anything 
about the principles that guide this community.

The basic idea is that your tiddlers will be saved on 
/public/tiddlers//, but you can make it non-public (so 
/tiddlers//) and change  to anything in the 
config tiddler. By default it is "main".

Along with the plugin, I've made available a server on 
https://tiddly.alhur.es/ that will serve you with an empty TiddlyWiki with 
just that plugin installed. After you connect your remoteStorage account 
you'll get your tiddlers downloaded automatically and on-demand from your 
remoteStorage and will be able to browse and edit them normally.

If your remoteStorage account is mys...@5apps.com and your tiddlers are 
saved under /public/tiddlers/something/ you can also point people to 
https://tiddly.alhur.es/mys...@5apps.com/something/ and they'll be browsing 
*your* wiki in no time.

See, for example, https://tiddly.alhur.es/fiat...@5apps.com/main/#Hello

For more information (probably nothing that I haven't written here), see the 
GitHub repository .

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[tw] Re: How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[Joe Armstrong]

Goodness you're right I'd missed that -- now it says I have to feed the 
cats on every single tiddler - not what I wanted.

So the rule

 <$list filter="[is[current]tag[Now]]">

is applied to every tiddler - How do I say (In pseudo code)
 
if currentTiddler has tag 'Now' then
   add a button at the top of the tiddler
   and display the tiddler
else
   display the tiddler
   end

Cheers

/Joe


On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:50:26 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> all Tiddlers tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate get used AS A VIEWTEMPLATE
>
> so the content of your newly tagged tiddler will also be shown on any 
> other tiddler when not in "edit-mode"
>
> that's the purpose of the tag $:/tags/ViewTemplate
>
> Simon
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

[BurningTreeC]

@TiddlyTweeter,

Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

It shows that:


   - rocketlaunchs need about 20 minutes of preparation
   - they start with a bang
   - everybody gets excited 'cause rockets are cool
   - someone has to press that button
   - I'm living in Innsbruck and the guy at 4:10 is John Insprucker
   - that's a coincidence



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[tw] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Why do we need a launcher?  I mean what is the advantage of having the 
"rocket" tiddler when all it does is replace it with the rocket in action? 
Lets get too it directly :-)

Now IF a TW could LAUNCH THE ROCKET in a separate woìindow/tab that might 
be more exciting. Like you have a Rocket tiddler that invoked rocket... 
You'd just need a tiddler that knew where to find it.

Lovely stuff.

J.

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[tw] How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[TonyM]

Hi,

A quick pointer

See https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles%20by%20tag

For changing the look of tiddlers for each tag

Then search for cycletags there are solutions to help.

Regards Tony

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[tw] Re: How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[Matthew Lauber]

*Background color by tag*:  
See https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles%20by%20tag

*Buttons on tagged tiddlers*.  You're going to want to use a ViewTemplate.  
A ViewTemplate is a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate.  It gets used 
as a template for every tiddler in the story river, so you probably want to 
start it with something like 
<$list filter="[is[current]tag[Now]]">
...button code goes here...


*Buttons that add and remove tags*.  You're probably going to want to use 
action widgets.  Something along the line of
<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Later" />
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="Now" />
Move to Later

Refer to  https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSendMessageWidget  
and https://tiddlywiki.com/#Messages for more info about that.  




On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:24:33 PM UTC-5, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> I want to make a triage system in TW5 - tasks are tagged 'now' 'later' and 
> 'done'
>
> My simple minded approach is as follows:
>
>1. A tiddler can be tagged 'now' 'later' or 'done'
>2. if a tiddler has the tag 'now' its background should be red and it 
>should have two buttons 'Move to Later' and 'Move to Done'
>3. if I press 'Move to Later' the tag 'now' should be removed and a 
>'later' tag should be added. If I press 'Move to done' the 'now' tag 
> should 
>be removed and a 'done' tag should be added.
>4. Similar rules for treatment of the 'later' and 'done' tags.
>
> How should I proceed?
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>

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[tw] How to add buttons if tiddler has a tag

[Joe Armstrong]

I want to make a triage system in TW5 - tasks are tagged 'now' 'later' and 
'done'

My simple minded approach is as follows:

   1. A tiddler can be tagged 'now' 'later' or 'done'
   2. if a tiddler has the tag 'now' its background should be red and it 
   should have two buttons 'Move to Later' and 'Move to Done'
   3. if I press 'Move to Later' the tag 'now' should be removed and a 
   'later' tag should be added. If I press 'Move to done' the 'now' tag should 
   be removed and a 'done' tag should be added.
   4. Similar rules for treatment of the 'later' and 'done' tags.

How should I proceed?

Cheers

/Joe

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[tw] Re: How to build a tag list for comsuption by <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" ... />?

[markhylton2]

Stephan, this worked perfectly. My Javascript chops are practically 
non-existant. As my TW needs grow, I'm starting to learn more, but I'm 
still basically a TW script-kiddie.

BTW, two tags in the list.

Thanks much!

~Mark

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 2:07:42 AM UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Do I understand correct, that the main question is, how to concatenate 
> $:/state/project-number with the word "project"?
>
> Should it be one tag or 2?
>
> For concatenation you usually require a macro. Try this
>
> \define projecttags() project $(projectnumber)$
>
> <$set name="projectnumber" value={{$:/state/project-number}}>
> <$button>
><$action-sendmessage
>   $message="tm-new-tiddler"
>   title={{$:/state/project-number}}
>   tags=<>
>/>
>New project
> 
> 
>
> use
>
> \define projecttags() [[project $(projectnumber)$]]
>
> if "project 123" should be just one tag
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

What I'm suggesting is that you don't need the counters -- you create a 
1000 rules to apply a 1000 counts, one after the other. Building up those 
rules shouldn't take long in a good text editor (especially one's like 
Emacs that have column modes).

-- Mark

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:28:15 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Thank you Mark S & coda coder
>
> For your further ideas -- molto grazie.
>
> coda coder wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if I've understood correctly, but, that draft seems to 
>> suggest that in Firefox you *may* be able to set user-select, either in 
>> the parent element or in the before/after pseudo element itself:
>
>
> Right. There is a lot of ambiguity and no clear outcome. Its clear its an 
> issue.
>
> I tried a few different tests on user-select. Got it to work but not (yet) 
> on any generated pseudo bits. I try a bit more before giving up.
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm not familiar with how your regex tools work. Do they re-iterate until 
>> there are no more changes to be made?
>>
>
> I'm using BJ's Flexity plugin that allows sequences of RegEx to be run 
> before the main parser kicks in. Iteration continues freely if you want, 
> until done. Basically its raw access to JS regex in its full form.
>  
>
>> If so, then I'm thinking that rules like this at the very end:
>>
>> /(.*?)#startmarker#/$1 0001#endmarker#/
>> /(.*?)#startmarker#/$1 0002#endmarker#/
>>  etc.
>>
>> Might brute force what you want. 
>>
>
> The problem is getting the counters. Whilst some JS (edit: I meant Regex) 
> implementations when you get a capturing group you can return both the 
> string and the match index (i.e. return the match count value as well as 
> the string content) in JS, as far as I know, you can return the string 
> matched with the captured group, but you can't access the COUNT of the 
> match, even though you can use it. IF you could then I could use that to 
> build the indices I need.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[BurningTreeC]

> I wanted to have a discussion first before making a pull request. It is 
> painfully easy to convert the existing sort filter to acquire this 
> behavior. Case being that, should we have it as a new filter, or modify the 
> existing sort. Right now I feel like we ll have to add it as a new filter, 
> as modifying existing sort might break the work flow of those who depended 
> on the current way of its behavior. If somebody tells me different, Either 
> way I would be happy to oblige.
>
> Yes, as I understood it, this is how it is - to assure compatibility for 
those filters you appear to need to add yours as a new one

I would like to have both - compatibility and your new filter, that's why I 
personally don't bother if it's almost the same as the original sort filter

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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[Riz]

I wanted to have a discussion first before making a pull request. It is 
painfully easy to convert the existing sort filter to acquire this 
behavior. Case being that, should we have it as a new plugin, or modify the 
existing sort. Right now I feel like we ll have to add it as a new filter, 
as modifying existing sort might break the work flow of those who depended 
on the current way of its behavior. If somebody tells me different, Either 
way I would be happy to oblige.

On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:04:32 UTC+5:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> this is great!
>
> can't we try to make a pull request to add it to the core as a new filter?
>
> BTC
>

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[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Thank you Mark S & coda coder

For your further ideas molto grazie.

coda coder wrote:

> I'm not sure if I've understood correctly, but, that draft seems to 
> suggest that in Firefox you *may* be able to set user-select, either in 
> the parent element or in the before/after pseudo element itself:


Right. There is a lot of ambiguity and no clear outcome. Its clear its an 
issue.

I tried a few different tests on user-select. Gotit to work but not (yet) 
on any generated pseudo bits. I try a bit more before giving up.

Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm not familiar with how your regex tools work. Do they re-iterate until 
> there are no more changes to be made?
>

I'm using BJ's Flexity plugin that allows sequences of RegEx to be run 
before the main parser kicks in. Iteration continues freely if you want, 
until done. Basically its raw access to JS regex in its full form.
 

> If so, then I'm thinking that rules like this at the very end:
>
> /(.*?)#startmarker#/$1 0001#endmarker#/
> /(.*?)#startmarker#/$1 0002#endmarker#/
>  etc.
>
> Might brute force what you want. 
>

The problem is getting the counters. Whilst some JS implementations when 
you get a capturing group you can return both the string and the match 
index (i.e. return the match count value as well as the string content) in 
JS, as far as I know, you can return the string matched with the captured 
group, but you can't access the COUNT of the match, even though you can use 
it. IF you could then I could use that to build the indices I need.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Wikipedia, Text Slicer Edition & Pandoc

[BurningTreeC]

Hi Steve,

I recently took a look at the pandoc github repository to see what's needed 
to maybe include tiddlywiki syntax
I didn't have that much time to get into it...

I think in a collaborative effort we could gather informations at one place 
that help make it clear a) if it's possible and if then b) how it can be 
done

We could then, if possible, see if we can make a pull request there to 
include tiddlywiki syntax

I think that would be a great thing, like 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3O--B-3R3E that great


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[tw] Re: Wikipedia, Text Slicer Edition & Pandoc

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Steve

Footnotes to last.

1 - You could use Text-Slicer or TiddlyClip for the first step. Then 
finesse with Flexity?

2 - I believe BJ is working on a new version of TiddlyClip that will 
include greater scope as a customised "screen-scraper". I don't know the 
details.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Introducing TW5 to a beginner

[Steven Schneider]

Hi Joe,

I've struggled with this through several iterations of my class at SUNY 
Poly (old name: SUNYIT). I've moved students through various versions, 
including what is now TiddlyWiki Classic, TiddlySpace, TiddlyWiki5 via 
Updog/Google Drive, and now primarily TiddlyWiki5 using 
tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.html as a wiki creator.

This year, with some success, I've pushed students to just learn how to do 
basic things in TiddlyWiki, and then slowly come to an understanding of 
what it is. So we create a new wiki, make a new tiddler, write links using 
[[square brackets]], add tags to tiddlers, begin to write lists using 
<> and then <$list>, write transclusions of {{!!fields}} and 
{{tiddlers}}, and then surprisingly quickly move into using templates. 

After that immersion, we step back and begin to identify other aspects of 
the tiddlywiki such as "title" and sidebars etc. But they've got a solid 
foundation to build on.  Of course, I have captive students who are 
committed to investing 4-10 hours per week. And they struggle.

You might find some insight by looking at the exercises I've created in 
DesignWriteStudio 

//steve.




On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 8:09:09 AM UTC-5, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
>
> Suppose I was trying to explain the TW to a complete beginner who is
> *not* a programmer.
>
> In the old TW, if I remember rightly, there was a tiddler called
> 'Title' - if you changed the content of the 'Title' tiddler to 'Joes
> Blog' - then the TW would magically be named 'Joe Blog'.
>
> This is easily to explain and demonstrate - but even this might be
> perceived as difficult by a total beginner - taking the first step is
> always the most difficult.
>
> In TW5 'Title' is called '/$SiteTitle' - I can imagine very good
> reasons for this - one might accidentally choose the word 'Title' and
> change it with rather puzzling results (if you didn't know what you
> were doing)
>
> It wasn't exactly obvious to me that the tiddler '/$SiteTile' was the
> thing to change. So this needs some explanation.
>
> I want to make an explanation that starts with empty.html (the empty
> TW from https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> I was thinking about introducing the TW as follows:
>
> Step 1)
>
> How to create a page. This is easy. Click on "+"
> make the page and store it. I'll call it 'JoesPage'
>
> Step 2)
>
> Find the page we just created.
>
> This is easy if I don't close the first page - it appears in the menu
> under the Open Tab.
>
> But If I close it it vanishes.
>
> So click on the 'Recent' tab.
>
> Is this *obvious* to a total beginner?
>
> Step 3)
>
> Make the page I just created appear in a 'Contents' tab
> as in https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> How do I do this
>
> Step 4)
>
> Create a page from a page.
>
> This time we edit an existing page and add a link, which when clicked
> will create the page
>
> Step 5)
>
> Show the amazing power of list transclusion (is this the correct term)
>
> Step 5a) Create a page called ToDo
>
> Add the single line
>
> <>
>
> Step 5b) Create any page and add the tab 'todo'
>
> Step 5c) Go to the ToDo page and magically the page you just added
> appears
>
> Step 6)
>
> Talk about tags and filters. We two tags 'todo' and 'done'
> we can change the ToDo page to
>
> <>
>
> And make a 'CompletedTasks' page with
>
> <>
>
> Is this a good order? - Is there an event simpler ordering of concepts
>
> Now to the subject of "magic" (shadow tiddlers)
>
> I want to introduce TW5 to a complete beginner who is not a programmer
>
> Certain tiddlers (like '/$SiteTitle') have an immediate effect on the
> site and are easy to understand. Others are far more difficult to 
> understand.
>
> So in what order would you introduce the shadow tiddlers - I'm assuming
> '$/SiteTitle' is #1 - or is there an even easier and more direct tiddler
> (say to change the background color)
>
> How about tags with side effects. I discovered the tag 'TableOfContents'
> caused the tiddler in question to appear in the 'Contents' tab
> of the sidebar - What are the most important tags that one would introduce 
> to
> a beginner
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>
>

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[tw] Re: Wikipedia, Text Slicer Edition & Pandoc

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Steve

IMO here you are talking about a specificity of import. Text slicer alone 
is unlikely to be able to do that as its a generic tool for effective slice 
on normal universally repeated elements.

But a specific Wikipedia page de-reconstructor needs pay attention to its 
*specific 
layout*. I think it would need to be A bespoke solution. 

Pandoc is one route. Probably over complex(?). Another route is to use 
Regular Expressions within TW. 

BJs FLEXITY plugin I have been crapping on about for months. It is 
excellent. It provides a new Content Type that allows you to run raw 
JavaScript regex over a Tiddler before the main parser kicks in. Its a 
possible solution within TW for this issue. It takes a while to grasp how 
it works. And to get the best from it you'd need understand basic regex 
syntax.

Anyway here it is: http://flexibility.tiddlyspot.com/

Best wishes
Josiah 

On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:18:27 UTC+1, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I wanted to open / revive a conversation about using TiddlyWiki to add 
> functionality to other types of documents, in this case, Wikipedia pages. 
> In the DesignWriteStudio  class, we are 
> currently working on importing wikipedia tables through google sheets 
> , as well as 
> "tiddlywiki-fying" wikipedia pages by excising and tagging paragraphs, but 
> that will only get us so far.
>
> I'm interested in being able to take a wikipedia page like the timeline 
> of Russia interference in the 2016 United States elections 
> 
>  and 
> create tagged tiddlers for each of the, say, 100+ individuals 
> 
>  
> and 100+ events.
>
> To that end: I was wondering if anyone has experimented with or mastered 
> the art of ingesting Wikipedia pages (perhaps using text slicer edition 
>  or perhaps using pandoc 
>  as an intermediary) into TiddlyWiki?
>
> Along those lines: has there been any movement to create a Tiddlywiki 
> import/export for pandoc, or to write a custom pandoc filter for wikitext? 
> Pandoc currently supports "Markdown (including CommonMark and 
> GitHub-flavored Markdown), reStructuredText, AsciiDoc, Emacs Org-Mode, 
> Emacs Muse, Textile, txt2tags, MediaWiki markup, DokuWiki markup, TikiWiki 
> markup, TWiki markup, Vimwiki markup, and ZimWiki markup," but not 
> tiddlywiki/wikitext.
>
> Thanks!
>
> //steve.
>

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Re: [tw] Presentation ...a little help needed

[Steven Schneider]

Hello all, 

Here is my latest attempt 
 to solve the 
challenge of presenting from a tiddlywiki: this is built on Jeremy's 
talkytalky , but adds the functionality 
of setting the bg color of slides from the palette, and also shows the 
slides as tiddlers in a more familiar way. there is a small bug right now 
that I haven't figured out so the last slide is the focus slide, rather 
than the first slide. And someday I'll put this into a plugin for ease of 
use.

//steve.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[BurningTreeC]

this is great!

can't we try to make a pull request to add it to the core as a new filter?

BTC

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[tw] Wikipedia, Text Slicer Edition & Pandoc

[Steven Schneider]

Hi folks,

I wanted to open / revive a conversation about using TiddlyWiki to add 
functionality to other types of documents, in this case, Wikipedia pages. 
In the DesignWriteStudio  class, we are 
currently working on importing wikipedia tables through google sheets 
, as well as 
"tiddlywiki-fying" wikipedia pages by excising and tagging paragraphs, but 
that will only get us so far.

I'm interested in being able to take a wikipedia page like the timeline of 
Russia interference in the 2016 United States elections 

 and 
create tagged tiddlers for each of the, say, 100+ individuals 

 
and 100+ events.

To that end: I was wondering if anyone has experimented with or mastered 
the art of ingesting Wikipedia pages (perhaps using text slicer edition 
 or perhaps using pandoc 
 as an intermediary) into TiddlyWiki?

Along those lines: has there been any movement to create a Tiddlywiki 
import/export for pandoc, or to write a custom pandoc filter for wikitext? 
Pandoc currently supports "Markdown (including CommonMark and 
GitHub-flavored Markdown), reStructuredText, AsciiDoc, Emacs Org-Mode, 
Emacs Muse, Textile, txt2tags, MediaWiki markup, DokuWiki markup, TikiWiki 
markup, TWiki markup, Vimwiki markup, and ZimWiki markup," but not 
tiddlywiki/wikitext.

Thanks!

//steve.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Riz

My feeling is YES regarding sort orders in core, if viable backwards 
compatible.

IMO its currently a serious hassle in TW we lumbered with a 
counter-intuitive, cumbersome sort order.

Best wishes
Josiah 

Riz: I was very tempted to make a pull request to modify the current sort 
> filter instead of creating a plugin. I had a feeling that such a change 
> will not be backward compatible. 
>

Riz wrote, fully:
>
> plugin and demo 
> 
>
> Currently available sort filters in the core either sorts alphabetically 
> or sorts numerically. It creates an issue when both alphabets and numbers 
> appear in the titles.
>
> For eg: Apple 8, Apple 9, Apple 10 will be sorted as
>
> Apple 10
> Apple 8
> Apple 9
>
> With *sortan*, you can sort them as 
>
> Apple 8
> Apple 9
> Apple 10
>
> As usual, there is a *sortancs filter *too for case-sensitive option, and 
> both are negatable (ie, using them as !sortan will sort them in decreasing 
> order) 
>
>
> I was very tempted to make a pull request to modify the current sort 
> filter instead of creating a plugin. I had a feeling that such a change 
> will not be backward compatible. 
>
> Anyhow, let me know what you feel,
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[David Gifford]

Added to the 'Lists and filters' section of the TiddlyWiki ToolMap 
https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:44:35 AM UTC-6, Riz wrote:
>
> plugin and demo 
> 
>
>
> Currently available sort filters in the core either sorts alphabetically 
> or sorts numerically. It creates an issue when both alphabets and numbers 
> appear in the titles.
>
> For eg: Apple 8, Apple 9, Apple 10 will be sorted as
>
> Apple 10
> Apple 8
> Apple 9
>
>
> With *sortan*, you can sort them as 
>
> Apple 8
> Apple 9
> Apple 10
>
>
>
> As usual, there is a *sortancs filter *too for case-sensitive option, and 
> both are negatable (ie, using them as !sortan will sort them in 
> decreasing order) 
>
>
> I was very tempted to make a pull request to modify the current sort 
> filter instead of creating a plugin. I had a feeling that such a change 
> will not be backward compatible. 
>
> Anyhow, let me know what you feel,
>
> sincerely,
> Riz
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[David Gifford]

I second this, or an adaptation of this, becoming core.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 8:02:51 AM UTC-6, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> VERY COOL!
>
> I like it. Should be part of the core.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[Stephan Hradek]

VERY COOL!

I like it. Should be part of the core.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

[David Gifford]

Very nice! Thanks for the added instructions for visitors. Much clearer.

David Gifford
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 3:16 AM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> I know how to use it, and you know how to use it, but you might want to at
>> least explain on your site what the Rocket is for, and how to use it.
>>
>
> You're right, I've updated the page
>
>>
>> I added it to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under "Writing and editing -
>> bookmarking".
>>
>
> Thank you :) - your dynalist is great!
>
>
>> Hi, I'm making this little TW companion that let's you edit tiddlers
>>> while browsing on other websites, dragging stuff into your wiki and more
>>>
>>> I hope you like it, and find it useful!
>>>
>>
>> If you would tell potential users, what it should do and how to use it.
>>
>> You're right, too
>
> TWRocketDock is a new browser window opened from within a tiddlywiki
>
> It is meant to enable you to add notes to your wiki, drag content into
> your wiki, while you're away from your tiddlywiki browser tab
>
> http://rocketdock.tiddlyspot.com
>
> The page now contains more details
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[tw] Re: Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... (aka Saying Succinctly What TW Is About ...)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

#TiddlyWiki remakes itself on every save.

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[tw] Re: Issue: Auto-Enumeration. I have no idea how.

[Riz]

Just to ice the cake a bit, I made a filter that sorts the titles in the 
natural order.

Link to thread: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/fJ-kKaxRwy0

Plugin and demo 


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[tw] [TW5] [Plugin] Sortan: For sorting alpha-numericals

[Riz]

plugin and demo 



Currently available sort filters in the core either sorts alphabetically or 
sorts numerically. It creates an issue when both alphabets and numbers 
appear in the titles.

For eg: Apple 8, Apple 9, Apple 10 will be sorted as

Apple 10
Apple 8
Apple 9


With *sortan*, you can sort them as 

Apple 8
Apple 9
Apple 10



As usual, there is a *sortancs filter *too for case-sensitive option, and 
both are negatable (ie, using them as !sortan will sort them in decreasing 
order) 


I was very tempted to make a pull request to modify the current sort filter 
instead of creating a plugin. I had a feeling that such a change will not 
be backward compatible. 

Anyhow, let me know what you feel,

sincerely,
Riz

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Re: [tw] A slider which closes itself when clicking elsewhere or closing tiddler

[stefct4]

Hi Andreas,

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 11:45:59 AM UTC+1, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> just to add onto all the tips you have already gotten: The info tab uses 
> the button popup mechanism to get the behaviour that you want, so an 
> example would be this (taken from the documentation at [1]):
>
>
>
This, of course, makes much more sense than my suggestions (at least in 
this particular case). For some reason, I hadn't been aware of this feature 
of the reveal widget.

Cheers,

Stef

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Re: [tw] A slider which closes itself when clicking elsewhere or closing tiddler

['Andreas Hahn' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi,

just to add onto all the tips you have already gotten: The info tab uses 
the button popup mechanism to get the behaviour that you want, so an 
example would be this (taken from the documentation at [1]):


|<$button popup="$:/SamplePopupState">Open Answer <$reveal 
type="nomatch" text="" state="$:/SamplePopupState"> ! This is the Answer 
1+1 = 2 most of the time :o |


/Andreas

[1] https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget

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[tw] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

[BurningTreeC]

>
> I know how to use it, and you know how to use it, but you might want to at 
> least explain on your site what the Rocket is for, and how to use it.
>

You're right, I've updated the page 

>
> I added it to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under "Writing and editing - 
> bookmarking".
>

Thank you :) - your dynalist is great!
 

> Hi, I'm making this little TW companion that let's you edit tiddlers while 
>> browsing on other websites, dragging stuff into your wiki and more
>>
>> I hope you like it, and find it useful!
>>
>
> If you would tell potential users, what it should do and how to use it.
>
> You're right, too

TWRocketDock is a new browser window opened from within a tiddlywiki

It is meant to enable you to add notes to your wiki, drag content into your 
wiki, while you're away from your tiddlywiki browser tab

http://rocketdock.tiddlyspot.com

The page now contains more details

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[tw] Re: A slider which closes itself when clicking elsewhere or closing tiddler

[Stephan Hradek]

I do not know, how far you followed my exampl, but an easy trick, with 
HTML5 enabled browser is:

1. instead of @.answer @ put around the answers


answerhere


2. change the "hover" in the CSS to "focus"

Now when you click on the anwer, it will get focus, and will be displayed.

You will be able to edit the answer, but this won't be stored. after 
closing and reopening the tiddler, the correct answer will reappear.

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[tw] Re: Online/Offline Sync & Version Control

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El viernes, 5 de enero de 2018, 23:17:58 (UTC+1), Darin Wick escribió:
>
> Right now NoteSelf  seems to have all the 
> features I want, but I don't see any activity in the github repository in 
> the last six months.  I'm a little hesitant to start using something that 
> isn't actively maintained.  
>

That is weird.
I made a release very recently,  I answer all the issues that got open on 
the github repository and  I've been fixing bugs recently. How can you see 
no activity ?

In the other hand, not making a commit on six months does not mean a 
project is abandoned or not maintained. It means that the HUMANS that are 
behind it does not have time to work on that.

And even if it is not maintained, it is an open source project, so 
potentially anyone can take the challenge of maintaining it or even forking 
it. But people prefer to open issues instead of pull requests.

Another thing to think about is that people have been using TW for more 
than ten years without problem, and most of them are using a very old 
unmaintained version.

The summary is: NoteSelf is being maintained, and with the current 
functionality, based on open standards it should work for many years.

Regards

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello again Lost Admin,

This kind of problems have been long solved. Could you try it again and let 
me know if you still experiencing this problems ?

Regards

El jueves, 21 de septiembre de 2017, 16:00:49 (UTC+2), Lost Admin escribió:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 7:09:26 AM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> This is very inconvenient, and very hard to trace.
>> Lost Admin, If I open the link you have provided it reloads the page a 
>> couple of times, but after that it then starts to work and from that point 
>> the page no longer crashes or reloads. The page crashes randomly at first 
>> because it has to create the required environment, and it creates a part of 
>> it each time it reloads. This is NOT by design, but it happens, and it only 
>> happens on the offline version.
>>
>
> Likewise, it only happened to me on the version I got from your download 
> button. To reproduce it I had to clear all data from Firefox, which is 
> surprisingly difficult.
>  
>
>> As time passes, it is getting harder and harder to keep both versions 
>> (the online and offline ones) on sync, and sometimes it takes time that I 
>> would better invest in developing NoteSelf itself.
>>
>> The fact that I can't reproduce the issue on any of my computers or 
>> mobile devices does not help neither: for me it always works, an it's quite 
>> frustrating. I'm thinking about hidding the offline version a bit more and 
>> put a disclamer about it's beta stage.
>>
>
> That is your choice and I respect it. But if I can't host everything on my 
> own system(s), I will look for something else. Self-hosting is part of what 
> got me looking at TiddlyWiki and the offline/online mode(s) of NoteSelf 
>  combined with the per-tiddler conflict resolution got me very interested 
> in NoteSelf.
>
>

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