date:20180420

[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

The first half of that task would be to change the view templates. The view 
templates themselves are made up of tiddlers. If you type 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate under the shadow tab of the advanced search you will 
see the various component tiddlers listed. 

There are various approaches, but this is a quick-and-dirty approach that 
may be good enough for most uses.

Click on and then edit $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle 
 .

Although this tiddler is called 'subtitle', it doesn't display a subtitle, 
or any title.  We will make the "subtitle" tiddler display the title field. 
Just put

| <$view field="title"/>

to the left of the the date view field. This will add the title to the 
tiddler subtitle line, but in subdued gray text.

Now click on (from the advanced search again) $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title 
and open it for editing.

Change down below where it says:

<$view field="title"/>

to

<$view field="subtitle"><$view field="title"/>
> A little detour from the title/GUID debate:
>
> I was wondering, and perhaps I'm not the only one, if someone has already 
> tried to *use uni-link together with modification that displays caption 
> of a tiddler as its name *(effectively using caption as title-shown but 
> not changing title-proper)? I mean what Mark S. hinted upon: "Perhaps the 
> ViewTemplate could be modified to also use the caption or subtitle, 
> reducing confusion."
>
> I think uni-link is a big help with link breakage issue. But I'd also like 
> to view or edit a tiddler while seeing its new title, meaning caption. 
> Otherwise I am not sure uni-link would trump the 
> create-newly-titled-tiddler-and-translude-its-previous-version-into-it or 
> the clone-existing-tiddler-change-its-name-and-link-its-older-version-to-it 
> workarounds for me.
>
> Though I don't have the least idea if such a modification of the tiddler's 
> name behaviour is possible or how difficult it would be to make it. Thanks 
> for any suggestions.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:07:34 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> If you're using the uni-link plugin, it will automatically change how 
>> your links are rendered to match either the caption or the subtitle of the 
>> linked tiddler. You can then leave the tiddler alone, never renaming it but 
>> only changing "caption" or "subtitle" if you want to change how it looks 
>> when linked.
>>
>> Basically, it allows you to use the title as a true immutable ID, and the 
>> caption or subtitle as the title. But it enables better performance -- it 
>> doesn't guarantee it. It's a partial solution because it doesn't fix 
>> existing broken links. You will have to find and fix them. There's also 
>> nothing to prevent you from forgetting and changing a tiddler title. The 
>> title of the tiddler that appears will be different than the title someone 
>> clicked on. Perhaps the ViewTemplate could be modified to also use the 
>> caption or subtitle, reducing confusion.
>>
>> -- Mark 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:28:44 AM UTC-7, Brady77 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josiah,
>>>
>>> I appreciate your willingness to help. Let's say I will generate some 
>>> unique ID for tiddler title. Next I use the "caption" field to as a real 
>>> tiddler title. Could you tell me what files to change so I can use it as 
>>> you suggest? I'm afraid that current tiddler title is hardcoded in many 
>>> places. I'm also awaiting Mario's reply regarding the "partial" solution by 
>>> using the "caption" field.
>>>
>>> Petr
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: NoteSelf uses local browser storage seamlessly with a remote synching server

2018-04-20 Thread ljay4041

Danielo's solution made Tiddlywiki "complete" for me personally. I've been
running it since December and it syncs way better than Evernote or Onenote.
Which isn't saying much, it's being more than gracious to call those two
pieces of software malicious garbage. Noteself syncs REALLY well. The
closest thing I've come to this is using syncthing to sync a zim notebook.
Which works pretty well, except you can't edit it on a phone. And it's a
complicated mess.

I learned about TW years ago, but I require syncing so it wasn't useful for
my use-case until Danielo added noteself. I was really impressed with TW
back then actually, it's just that syncing is a critical part of the system
for me, so I ended up trying every other wiki-like system I could get my
hands on. There are some really cool systems, but nothing compares to TW +
noteself. Thank you Jeremy and Danielo and everyone who's efforts have
helped make my dreams possible! (do you have wallets I might be able to
contribute to or some way to show appreciation?)

My own setup is using couchdb instances on a couple debian devices and
using one to sync and one as a manual periodic backup. It's public facing
with https/SSL and I'm syncing great with Android (Have not been able to
get IOS to work) and also current Firefox on several debian workstations. I
load the files locally since I wasn't able to get Noteself working via DAV
over https with simple authentication.

Hope this is helpful to anyone looking at Noteself and Tiddlywiki, I
personally feel like this is some of the most important and helpful
software development going on currently and would like to encourage
everyone to check it out!

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Re: [tw5] Re: PHP Post mechanism for Feedback, Tasks and cooperation

2018-04-20 Thread Jan

Hi Jed,
thanks, hashover looks very interesting on their but i could not get to
see it running. I fear this is much more complicated.
What I want is far simpler... not a real comment system that allows
discussions but a simple way of exporting entire Tiddlers as Tid-files
to reimport them.

Jan Johannpeter

Am 20.04.2018 um 14:00 schrieb Jed Carty:
I added comments to one of my tiddlywikis
(ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain) using hashover. It is a php-based
commenting system. It is a big rough but the code for importing the
comments as tiddlers may help. Some changes we made to our hosting
setup broke the commenting system and I have been working on putting
the multi-user tiddlywiki on line instead of bothering to fix it, but
maybe some of how I import the comments may help a bit if you haven't
already made a working system. The instructions for setting up
hashover as a commenting system are here:
https://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Adding%20comments%20sections%20to%20tiddlers%20on%20a%20tiddlywiki%20using%20hashover

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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I don't know what BJ has in mind, but assume that he's found an extension 
feature that can work around the browser path limitations. That will be 
interesting to see.

But even if the path information isn't exposed in standard DAD (DragAndDrop 
, obviously the file name is. So if you know that all your images are going 
to be in directory 'xyz', then it should be able to construct a DAD process 
that pulls the path name from a configuration tiddler and creates a new 
_canonical_uri from that. Most of my image directories are below the 
directory where the TW is so that it's easy to transport everything 
together. They tend to be like images/2018 so that the configuration 
tiddler would only need to change once a year or so.

-- Mark 

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I will check out the solutions you mention, Ditto sounds great for My 
> SharePoint work. 
>
> I paid for SnagIt years ago so only need to pay the upgrade, I would like 
> camista for video editing but it is more expensive.
>
> I find the ability to annotate the capture in the SnagIt Editor 
> immediately after capture improves the work flow. 
> So now it is Snap, Annotate, drag and drop, then insert image reference 
> into part of TiddlyWiki (This could be better)
>
> Dreaming I would like to drop and image on an open tiddler and have it 
> insert the link to the image and import it in one step.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:10:40 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The last time I tried using Snag-It, I found it pricey, and kind of 
>> confusing. I really liked Faststone, and would probably purchase it if I 
>> was doing frequent documentation. Green-shot works pretty well, but usually 
>> I get by with the screen-grab feature of IrfanView or even the mozilla 
>> screenshot tool that comes with FF. For images, anything that's in the 
>> clipboard can be pasted into TW.
>>
>> A utility that's really helpful when you need to grab multiple types of 
>> information without going back and forth is Ditto, a clipboard manager. So, 
>> if you're on a web page, you can grab an image (with FF screenshot), the 
>> url, the title of the article,and the text. Then go back and set up your 
>> tiddler, inserting the various bits (title, URL field, etc.) without having 
>> to go back and forth.  Linux has several clipboard managers in its 
>> distribution, though none quite as versatile as Ditto. I imagine the world 
>> of Mac has such things too.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:27:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> In defence of my original post
>>>
>>> if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a 
>>> document then including images and videos is fine.
>>>
>>> Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.
>>>
>>> I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break 
>>> the rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always 
>>> forced to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 5:40:15 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
 modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building 
 documentation.

 I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know 
 it can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki

- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
(PNG files)
- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text 
(OCR)
- or move text within the captured image
- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the 
snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki
- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used 
on their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki


 
- and a lot more that was already there.

 Regards
 Tony


 




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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

2018-04-20 Thread TonyM

Mark,

I will check out the solutions you mention, Ditto sounds great for My 
SharePoint work. 

I paid for SnagIt years ago so only need to pay the upgrade, I would like 
camista for video editing but it is more expensive.

I find the ability to annotate the capture in the SnagIt Editor immediately 
after capture improves the work flow. 
So now it is Snap, Annotate, drag and drop, then insert image reference 
into part of TiddlyWiki (This could be better)

Dreaming I would like to drop and image on an open tiddler and have it 
insert the link to the image and import it in one step.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:10:40 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The last time I tried using Snag-It, I found it pricey, and kind of 
> confusing. I really liked Faststone, and would probably purchase it if I 
> was doing frequent documentation. Green-shot works pretty well, but usually 
> I get by with the screen-grab feature of IrfanView or even the mozilla 
> screenshot tool that comes with FF. For images, anything that's in the 
> clipboard can be pasted into TW.
>
> A utility that's really helpful when you need to grab multiple types of 
> information without going back and forth is Ditto, a clipboard manager. So, 
> if you're on a web page, you can grab an image (with FF screenshot), the 
> url, the title of the article,and the text. Then go back and set up your 
> tiddler, inserting the various bits (title, URL field, etc.) without having 
> to go back and forth.  Linux has several clipboard managers in its 
> distribution, though none quite as versatile as Ditto. I imagine the world 
> of Mac has such things too.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:27:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> In defence of my original post
>>
>> if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a 
>> document then including images and videos is fine.
>>
>> Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.
>>
>> I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break 
>> the rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always 
>> forced to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>  
>>
>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 5:40:15 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
>>> modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.
>>>
>>> I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know 
>>> it can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki
>>>
>>>- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
>>>(PNG files)
>>>- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
>>>- or move text within the captured image
>>>- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit 
>>>editor tray to tiddlywiki
>>>- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used 
>>>on their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>- and a lot more that was already there.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: nodejs server - creating tiddler with text editors in folder rather than in browser. ??

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

BUT -- are you restarting the server after you make the .tid ? You have to 
restart the server. AFAIK the server only loads the tid files when it first 
starts. After that it works from browser memory. 

Also, what directory are you launching from? In your example, you need to 
be in the /home/sherab/ folder when executing the tiddlywiki server command.

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> Hi 
> I realize my language was not precise enough
> to answer your questions:
>
>- the command I use to launch the server is 
>
> tiddlywiki thunderwiki --server
>
>
>- My tiddlers are indeed in my /home/sherab/thunderwiki/tiddlers/
>
>
>
>- Then while inside the thunderwiki/tiddlers/ - using a text editor, I 
>am creating a tiddler
>   - I create a tiddler 
>   - title: New Tiddler
>  - modifer: wisdomlight
>  - I give it a .tid 
>   - nothing happens
>
>
> I'd really like to type my tiddlers with a text editor.
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:22:11 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> How are you launching Tiddlywiki. What command are you using? What 
>> directory are you in?
>>
>> Did you restart the server? It must be restarted to see new tiddlers.
>>
>> Normally, if you follow the install directions, tiddlers will be in a 
>> folder below the TW folder you created. So if you are in your home 
>> directory (~) and your new tiddlywiki is in a sub-folder "mynewwiki" then 
>> the command would be
>>
>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --server
>>
>> (there are variations depending on setup)
>>
>>
>> And your tiddlers would appear in 
>>
>> mynewwiki/tiddlers
>>
>> So it's odd when you say that your tiddlers are appearing in "the 
>> Tiddlywiki" folder.
>>
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a sample file I've writen
>>>
>>> created: 20180420
>>> modified:
>>> tags: 
>>> title: 17:17
>>> type: txt/vnd.tiddlywiki
>>>
>>> this is written in vim 
>>> not sure if it works
>>> Enter code here...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:51:34 PM UTC+1, kelsang sherab wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just installed nodejs server on my linux [mint 18.3]
>>>>
>>>> with the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) I created tiddlers
>>>> I can and see these tiddlers in the TiddlyWiki folder in my Files 
>>>> explorer
>>>>
>>>> *Until now all is fine.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *My question -*In my File explorer in the  Tiddlywiki folder, using a 
>>>> text editor, I created a file ending with the .tid
>>>>
>>>> then in the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) the newly created .tid does not 
>>>> seem to be there.
>>>>
>>>> Why can I not create a tiddler with a text editor 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: nodejs server - creating tiddler with text editors in folder rather than in browser. ??

2018-04-20 Thread kelsang sherab

Hi 
I realize my language was not precise enough
to answer your questions:

   - the command I use to launch the server is 

tiddlywiki thunderwiki --server


   - My tiddlers are indeed in my /home/sherab/thunderwiki/tiddlers/



   - Then while inside the thunderwiki/tiddlers/ - using a text editor, I 
   am creating a tiddler
  - I create a tiddler 
  - title: New Tiddler
 - modifer: wisdomlight
 - I give it a .tid 
  - nothing happens
   

I'd really like to type my tiddlers with a text editor.

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:22:11 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> How are you launching Tiddlywiki. What command are you using? What 
> directory are you in?
>
> Did you restart the server? It must be restarted to see new tiddlers.
>
> Normally, if you follow the install directions, tiddlers will be in a 
> folder below the TW folder you created. So if you are in your home 
> directory (~) and your new tiddlywiki is in a sub-folder "mynewwiki" then 
> the command would be
>
> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --server
>
> (there are variations depending on setup)
>
>
> And your tiddlers would appear in 
>
> mynewwiki/tiddlers
>
> So it's odd when you say that your tiddlers are appearing in "the 
> Tiddlywiki" folder.
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>>
>> Here is a sample file I've writen
>>
>> created: 20180420
>> modified:
>> tags: 
>> title: 17:17
>> type: txt/vnd.tiddlywiki
>>
>> this is written in vim 
>> not sure if it works
>> Enter code here...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:51:34 PM UTC+1, kelsang sherab wrote:
>>>
>>> I just installed nodejs server on my linux [mint 18.3]
>>>
>>> with the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) I created tiddlers
>>> I can and see these tiddlers in the TiddlyWiki folder in my Files 
>>> explorer
>>>
>>> *Until now all is fine.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *My question -*In my File explorer in the  Tiddlywiki folder, using a 
>>> text editor, I created a file ending with the .tid
>>>
>>> then in the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) the newly created .tid does not 
>>> seem to be there.
>>>
>>> Why can I not create a tiddler with a text editor 
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: transclusion and tables

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Well, I hope someone can give you a better answer than this, but whenever 
I've needed to build a table this way I've ended up using HTML structures 
in the template. So 
you would invoke like:


{{{[tag[arme]]||template-equipement}}}


and your template-equipement would look like:

 {{!!nom}}  {{!!type-equipement}}  {{!!degats}} 
 {{!!qualites}}  {{!!cout}}  {{!!note}} 


Good luck!
-- Mark



On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:23:44 PM UTC-7, arg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Here is the content : 
> | {{!!nom}} | {{!!type-equipement}} | {{!!degats}} | {{!!qualites}} | 
> {{!!cout}} | {{!!note}} |
>
>
> Le vendredi 20 avril 2018 17:13:29 UTC+2, Mark S. a écrit :
>>
>> It might help to see the contents of template-equipement
>>
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 7:58:56 AM UTC-7, arg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to build a table from transcluded widgets each containing a part 
>>> of the table.
>>>
>>> there is the syntax i use : {{{[tag[arme]]||template-equipement}}}
>>>
>>> and there is what i get : 
>>>
>>> | arme a une main | arme | 1d8 | | 5 | | | arme batarde | arme lourdes | 
>>> 1d10 | batarde, précis | 50 thalers | a deux mains | | Arme courte | arme 
>>> courte | 1d6 | court | 1 thaler | | | arme longue | arme longue | 1d8 | 
>>> long | 3 thalers | | | armes lourdes | armes lourdes | 1d10 | | 10 thalers 
>>> | | | attaque sans arme | attaque sans arme | 1d4 | court | 0 | | | bâton 
>>> articulé | arme longue | 1d8 | long, immobilisant | 15 thalers | | | bâton 
>>> de combat | arme longue | 1d6 | long, contondant | 1 shilling | | | Bec de 
>>> Corbin |
>>>
>>> Could you help me ? 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: transclusion and tables

2018-04-20 Thread argasm

Here is the content : 
| {{!!nom}} | {{!!type-equipement}} | {{!!degats}} | {{!!qualites}} | 
{{!!cout}} | {{!!note}} |


Le vendredi 20 avril 2018 17:13:29 UTC+2, Mark S. a écrit :
>
> It might help to see the contents of template-equipement
>
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 7:58:56 AM UTC-7, arg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to build a table from transcluded widgets each containing a part 
>> of the table.
>>
>> there is the syntax i use : {{{[tag[arme]]||template-equipement}}}
>>
>> and there is what i get : 
>>
>> | arme a une main | arme | 1d8 | | 5 | | | arme batarde | arme lourdes | 
>> 1d10 | batarde, précis | 50 thalers | a deux mains | | Arme courte | arme 
>> courte | 1d6 | court | 1 thaler | | | arme longue | arme longue | 1d8 | 
>> long | 3 thalers | | | armes lourdes | armes lourdes | 1d10 | | 10 thalers 
>> | | | attaque sans arme | attaque sans arme | 1d4 | court | 0 | | | bâton 
>> articulé | arme longue | 1d8 | long, immobilisant | 15 thalers | | | bâton 
>> de combat | arme longue | 1d6 | long, contondant | 1 shilling | | | Bec de 
>> Corbin |
>>
>> Could you help me ? 
>>
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-20 Thread Miroslav Kalous

A little detour from the title/GUID debate:

I was wondering, and perhaps I'm not the only one, if someone has already 
tried to *use uni-link together with modification that displays caption of 
a tiddler as its name *(effectively using caption as title-shown but not 
changing title-proper)? I mean what Mark S. hinted upon: "Perhaps the 
ViewTemplate could be modified to also use the caption or subtitle, 
reducing confusion."

I think uni-link is a big help with link breakage issue. But I'd also like 
to view or edit a tiddler while seeing its new title, meaning caption. 
Otherwise I am not sure uni-link would trump the 
create-newly-titled-tiddler-and-translude-its-previous-version-into-it or 
the clone-existing-tiddler-change-its-name-and-link-its-older-version-to-it 
workarounds for me.

Though I don't have the least idea if such a modification of the tiddler's 
name behaviour is possible or how difficult it would be to make it. Thanks 
for any suggestions.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:07:34 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> If you're using the uni-link plugin, it will automatically change how your 
> links are rendered to match either the caption or the subtitle of the 
> linked tiddler. You can then leave the tiddler alone, never renaming it but 
> only changing "caption" or "subtitle" if you want to change how it looks 
> when linked.
>
> Basically, it allows you to use the title as a true immutable ID, and the 
> caption or subtitle as the title. But it enables better performance -- it 
> doesn't guarantee it. It's a partial solution because it doesn't fix 
> existing broken links. You will have to find and fix them. There's also 
> nothing to prevent you from forgetting and changing a tiddler title. The 
> title of the tiddler that appears will be different than the title someone 
> clicked on. Perhaps the ViewTemplate could be modified to also use the 
> caption or subtitle, reducing confusion.
>
> -- Mark 
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:28:44 AM UTC-7, Brady77 wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josiah,
>>
>> I appreciate your willingness to help. Let's say I will generate some 
>> unique ID for tiddler title. Next I use the "caption" field to as a real 
>> tiddler title. Could you tell me what files to change so I can use it as 
>> you suggest? I'm afraid that current tiddler title is hardcoded in many 
>> places. I'm also awaiting Mario's reply regarding the "partial" solution by 
>> using the "caption" field.
>>
>> Petr
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: nodejs server - creating tiddler with text editors in folder rather than in browser. ??

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

How are you launching Tiddlywiki. What command are you using? What 
directory are you in?

Did you restart the server? It must be restarted to see new tiddlers.

Normally, if you follow the install directions, tiddlers will be in a 
folder below the TW folder you created. So if you are in your home 
directory (~) and your new tiddlywiki is in a sub-folder "mynewwiki" then 
the command would be

tiddlywiki mynewwiki --server

(there are variations depending on setup)


And your tiddlers would appear in 

mynewwiki/tiddlers

So it's odd when you say that your tiddlers are appearing in "the 
Tiddlywiki" folder.

Good luck
-- Mark

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> Here is a sample file I've writen
>
> created: 20180420
> modified:
> tags: 
> title: 17:17
> type: txt/vnd.tiddlywiki
>
> this is written in vim 
> not sure if it works
> Enter code here...
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:51:34 PM UTC+1, kelsang sherab wrote:
>>
>> I just installed nodejs server on my linux [mint 18.3]
>>
>> with the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) I created tiddlers
>> I can and see these tiddlers in the TiddlyWiki folder in my Files explorer
>>
>> *Until now all is fine.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *My question -*In my File explorer in the  Tiddlywiki folder, using a 
>> text editor, I created a file ending with the .tid
>>
>> then in the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) the newly created .tid does not 
>> seem to be there.
>>
>> Why can I not create a tiddler with a text editor 
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: nodejs server - creating tiddler with text editors in folder rather than in browser. ??

2018-04-20 Thread kelsang sherab

Here is a sample file I've writen

created: 20180420
modified:
tags: 
title: 17:17
type: txt/vnd.tiddlywiki

this is written in vim 
not sure if it works
Enter code here...



On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:51:34 PM UTC+1, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> I just installed nodejs server on my linux [mint 18.3]
>
> with the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) I created tiddlers
> I can and see these tiddlers in the TiddlyWiki folder in my Files explorer
>
> *Until now all is fine.*
>
>
>
> *My question -*In my File explorer in the  Tiddlywiki folder, using a 
> text editor, I created a file ending with the .tid
>
> then in the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) the newly created .tid does not seem 
> to be there.
>
> Why can I not create a tiddler with a text editor 
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread Jeremy Ruston

A property of most GUID generation algorithms is that they can generate a 
stream of GUIDs that are guaranteed to be unique across time and space:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier

> When generated according to the standard methods, UUIDs are for practical 
> purposes unique, without depending for their uniqueness on a central 
> registration authority or coordination between the parties generating them, 
> unlike most other numbering schemes. While the probability that a UUID will 
> be duplicated is not zero, it is close enough to zero to be negligible.


With such algorithms it may be reasonable to maintain a GUID in a tiddler field 
other than the title, and to do without any uniqueness constraints (instead, 
one would just need to follow some high level rules, such as that a new GUID is 
generated for a clone of an existing tiddler).

Best wishes

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>> On 20 Apr 2018, at 16:16, PMario  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:24:38 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>> Mario,
>>> I am in total agreement on your approach to titles and have no problem with 
>>> these myself.
>>> 
>> What I am trying to say is can we make a field that containes a unique id 
>> stored in a field for any (not nessasarily every) tiddler that is 
>> independant of its name.
>> 
> 
> Yes.  tiddler titile.   once "alias" is a first class TW citizen. 
> 
> We need something that works out of the box. The tiddler title is the only 
> thing atm, that fulfills the uniqueness requirement. So the tiddler title is 
> the only thing, that can be used as a UUID. period. 
> 
> We just have to change the existing UI to deal with this. So we have to make 
> sure, once a user flips the switch to UUIDs the "subtitle" or "aliases" field 
> is filled with the tiddler title text. So the user can start to use the 
> tiddler title as the UUID. ... 
> 
> I think UUIDs and human readable titles may even coexist. IMO it's primarily 
> a UI and editor problem atm. 
> 
> I don't think a new uuid-field will be a real solution. 
>  
>> If such a field existed I am sure a minor addition to the uni-links plugin 
>> would allow tiddlers to be located via this permanent reference and render 
>> its caption, title or alias.
>> 
> 
> right. 
> 
> -
> 
> About using timestamp to create UUIDs .. This is a solved problem. We 
> shouldn't discuss it. 
> 
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

TonyM wrote:
>
> What I am trying to say is can we make a field that containes a unique id 
>> stored in a field for any (not nessasarily every) tiddler that is 
>> independant of its name.
>>
>
>
PMario replied:
>
> ... I think UUIDs and human readable titles may even coexist
>
> I don't think a new uuid-field will be a real solution. 
>

Solution to what? I think in some use cases a UUID field would have great 
utility.

The discussion is a bit confused between an attempt to change some thing 
rudimentary (forget it) and supporting a structured logic for a work-around 
that could make TW more like a Database (i.e. with unique record numbers )

I think the point is not that TW in any way at centre needs UUIDs. Rather 
that---as an extension---a UUID field could be the HUB of a work-around for 
SOME  cases.

IMO the issue is not what is in the core. Rather about some standardization 
around getting it to behave a bit more like a standard database through 
extension ... IF you need that. UUIDs are the easiest way to that IMO.

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: nodejs server - creating tiddler with text editors in folder rather than in browser. ??

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

What is the structure of the tid file? Does it have a title field? It might 
help to upload a sample.

Also, the tiddler won't appear until you turn off and then turn back on 
your tiddlywiki server.

-- Mark

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 8:51:34 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> I just installed nodejs server on my linux [mint 18.3]
>
> with the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) I created tiddlers
> I can and see these tiddlers in the TiddlyWiki folder in my Files explorer
>
> *Until now all is fine.*
>
>
>
> *My question -*In my File explorer in the  Tiddlywiki folder, using a 
> text editor, I created a file ending with the .tid
>
> then in the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) the newly created .tid does not seem 
> to be there.
>
> Why can I not create a tiddler with a text editor 
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw5] nodejs server - creating tiddler with text editors in folder rather than in browser. ??

2018-04-20 Thread kelsang sherab

I just installed nodejs server on my linux [mint 18.3]

with the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) I created tiddlers
I can and see these tiddlers in the TiddlyWiki folder in my Files explorer

*Until now all is fine.*



*My question -*In my File explorer in the  Tiddlywiki folder, using a text 
editor, I created a file ending with the .tid

then in the browser (127.0.0.1:8080) the newly created .tid does not seem 
to be there.

Why can I not create a tiddler with a text editor 

Thanks

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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:24:38 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
> I am in total agreement on your approach to titles and have no problem 
> with these myself.
>
What I am trying to say is can we make a field that containes a unique id 
> stored in a field for any (not nessasarily every) tiddler that is 
> independant of its name.
>

Yes.  tiddler titile.   once "alias" is a first class TW citizen. 

We need something that works out of the box. The tiddler title is the only 
thing atm, that fulfills the uniqueness requirement. So the tiddler title 
is the only thing, that can be used as a UUID. period. 

We just have to change the existing UI to deal with this. So we have to 
make sure, once a user flips the switch to UUIDs the "subtitle" or 
"aliases" field is filled with the tiddler title text. So the user can 
start to use the tiddler title as the UUID. ... 

I think UUIDs and human readable titles may even coexist. IMO it's 
primarily a UI and editor problem atm. 

I don't think a new uuid-field will be a real solution. 

> If such a field existed I am sure a minor addition to the uni-links plugin 
> would allow tiddlers to be located via this permanent reference and render 
> its caption, title or alias.
>

right. 

-

About using timestamp to create UUIDs .. This is a solved problem. We 
shouldn't discuss it. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: transclusion and tables

2018-04-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

It might help to see the contents of template-equipement


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On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 7:58:56 AM UTC-7, arg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to build a table from transcluded widgets each containing a part of 
> the table.
>
> there is the syntax i use : {{{[tag[arme]]||template-equipement}}}
>
> and there is what i get : 
>
> | arme a une main | arme | 1d8 | | 5 | | | arme batarde | arme lourdes | 
> 1d10 | batarde, précis | 50 thalers | a deux mains | | Arme courte | arme 
> courte | 1d6 | court | 1 thaler | | | arme longue | arme longue | 1d8 | 
> long | 3 thalers | | | armes lourdes | armes lourdes | 1d10 | | 10 thalers 
> | | | attaque sans arme | attaque sans arme | 1d4 | court | 0 | | | bâton 
> articulé | arme longue | 1d8 | long, immobilisant | 15 thalers | | | bâton 
> de combat | arme longue | 1d6 | long, contondant | 1 shilling | | | Bec de 
> Corbin |
>
> Could you help me ? 
>

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[tw5] transclusion and tables

2018-04-20 Thread argasm

Hello,

I want to build a table from transcluded widgets each containing a part of 
the table.

there is the syntax i use : {{{[tag[arme]]||template-equipement}}}

and there is what i get : 

| arme a une main | arme | 1d8 | | 5 | | | arme batarde | arme lourdes | 
1d10 | batarde, précis | 50 thalers | a deux mains | | Arme courte | arme 
courte | 1d6 | court | 1 thaler | | | arme longue | arme longue | 1d8 | 
long | 3 thalers | | | armes lourdes | armes lourdes | 1d10 | | 10 thalers 
| | | attaque sans arme | attaque sans arme | 1d4 | court | 0 | | | bâton 
articulé | arme longue | 1d8 | long, immobilisant | 15 thalers | | | bâton 
de combat | arme longue | 1d6 | long, contondant | 1 shilling | | | Bec de 
Corbin |

Could you help me ? 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:28:23 PM UTC+2, Brady77 wrote:
>
> ..
>
>> I use "real headings" at the tiddler body, which allows me to use the 
>> tiddler title as an "index" and I can change the heading as often as I 
>> want. "caption" and "subtitle" are very handy here.
>>
>> This works well with the above mentioned plugins, which don't break TWs, 
>> that don't use the plugins, if you copy your texts. (but the functionality 
>> will be different!)
>>
>  
> So you implemented something what Jeremy suggested in this thread above: 
> "...users should be able to use GUIDs for tiddler titles if it suits their 
> use case. The missing piece is a way of linking to a tiddler by it's 
> GUID/title, but having a specified field displayed as the text of the 
> link.". 
>

I did implement it, because I thought in "Globally changing internal links 
to display caption text if possible 
?" Mark S. 
came up with a brilliant Idea, that used the wrong field. ... 
and some other threads, pushed me to add the alias-functions to uni-link, 
to cover it in one plugin. .. 
 

> This is exact opposite to what Felix'es suggests by using "IDs" for GUIDs. 
>

May be. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

TonyM

You mean a field with a UUID/GUID would be quite helpful?

I think so for some use cases.

Josiah


TonyM wrote:
>
> ... we make a field that contains a unique id stored in a field for any 
> (not nessasarily every) tiddler that is independant of its name...
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread TonyM

Mario,

I am in total agreement on your approach to titles and have no problem with
these myself.

What I am trying to say is can we make a field that containes a unique id
stored in a field for any (not nessasarily every) tiddler that is independant
of its name.

If such a field existed I am sure a minor addition to the uni-links plugin
would allow tiddlers to be located via this permanent reference and render its
caption, title or alias.

Let me clarify the use of the created date. I doubt even with a bulk import, I
cant imagin more than 1,000 tiddlers being created in a second. Modification of
the create code can ensure no tiddler has a created date equal to another, by
incrementing the milliseconds until unique, almost certianly only one
millisecond more would do it. This would also guarentee the ability to sort
tiddlers in the exact order of creation.

I stand to be corrected but I do not see the complications you raise. It seems
very scalable to me because it does not require a single byte more.

Nor would it likely impact transfered tiddlers. In fact it would be effectivly
invisible except when someone wants a unique id, it will simply be there
already.

It seems to me if solutions can be developed where even references can be made
to tiddlers for which even the title is mutable we may even find ourselves with
tools for translation or natural language processing.

Such a unique id may allow audit trails or export and reimport such that we
could even restore renamed tiddlers.

This is an abstract algorithmic idea for sure but I expect they are of interest
to you.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 3:51:55 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> ...
> Especially Jeremy's last post, which I'll quote here, because I like his 
> consistency over the years :)
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2011 at 2:55:44 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> ... We can work around the lack of a
>> human readable title by, say, adopting the convention of a "display
>> title" field.
>
>
I used "subtitle" as a name, because I think it "naturally" fits, for this 
usecase. I thought if a Wiki can have a Subtitle. A tiddler can have one 
too ;)

-m

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 3:07:56 PM UTC+2, Brady77 wrote:
>
> @PMario: 
>
> I spent some time with the uni-link plugin to see how it works for me. 
>

good.
 

> First I have to say that it is very close to be a good workaround for 
> "broken links" problem. 
>

It was developed and introduced 
for
 
this type of problems. 
A bit of development history: Globally changing internal links to display 
caption text if possible 
? (only 
click it if you have time)
 

> I have a couple of questions. 
>
>1. In the advanced search
>   - Can I use caption / subtitle values in the standard search tab?
>
> Not atm. .. But it should be easy to implement. ... That's 1 reason I 
wrote "partially" in my first reply. ... 
 

>
>- Is it possible to display the results from the filter as a list of 
>   captions / subtitles?
>
> Yes, ... Someone would need to create it. ... 1 more reason, why I think 
uni-link plugin isn't ripe for the core  yet ;)
 

>
>1. I tried your "stant-01" theme as well. 
>   - Is possible in the edit mode to show the tiddler title as a field 
>   at the bottom and hide it at the top?
>
>
Sure. It's an opinionated theme already.  You would just need to open: 
the tags/EditTemplate 
 tiddler and 
modify the list field. Move the second element to the end of the list.  
BUT ... It looks strange. IMO some more UI tweaking would be needed. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

Hi folks, 
Very interesting discussion going on. 

@Brady
Sorry for being silent even if directly mentioned. ... But I think some of 
your early questions about uni-link have been answered by others, in the 
same way, as I would have done it. ..

The tiddler.title discussion isn't new. If you search for UUID in this 
group you'll get discussions dating back to 2011, where TiddlyWiki 5 wasn't 
born yet :) (Click this link 

and scroll down)

I have been involved in most of them, so I thought, I'll shut up this time 
and see what's going on. 

There is only one (short) thread that I want to point out: Federated wiki 
and tw 

Especially Jeremy's last post, which I'll quote here, because I like his 
consistency over the years :)

On Friday, September 9, 2011 at 2:55:44 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, my take on tiddler GUIDs is to acknowledge that
> they are sometimes useful, but note that it is already possible to use
> a GUID string as the title for tiddlers, and that GUIDed tiddlers can
> co-exist with ordinary tiddlers. We can work around the lack of a
> human readable title by, say, adopting the convention of a "display
> title" field.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Jeremy
>

more replies will follow. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Q: Making editor monospaced

2018-04-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

That sounds like a bug.

On Sunday, 22 October 2006 01:12:03 UTC+2, D. R. Evans wrote:
>
> Found the problem!!!
>
>  I don't know why it's a problem, but it is.
>
> In FF:
>
> Edit | Preferences | Content | Fonts & Colors | Advanced | Allow Pages
> to use their own fonts
>   MUST be checked.
>
> For reasons I don't understand at all, if you have it unchecked, even
> if you have the Monospace selection set to Courier, the CSS doesn't
> work. Logically, it would seem that in this case, choosing "monospace"
> in the CSS should cause FF to use Courier. But it doesn't.
>
> This actually rather sucks, because the reason that option was
> unchecked in the first place was because pages rather frequently make
> really stupid decisions about what font and size they want me to use.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Q: Making editor monospaced

2018-04-20 Thread Andrew Winn

For anyone who stumbles on this thread over a decade after the fact, I have 
found the current (as of April 2018) method to make the editor display 
monospace font is to use the following CSS:

.tc-tiddler-frame textarea.tc-edit-texteditor { font-family: monospace; }

On Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 10:25:45 AM UTC-4, D. R. Evans wrote:
>
> I have an old note from a TW on a Windows box that this is the way to
> make the editor pane use a monospaced font:
>
> -
>
> In StyleSheet add:
>
> .editor {
> font-family: Courier;
> }
>
> -
>
> But that doesn't seem to work any more. What is the right way to do this?
>
> (Or it could be that the "Courier" font family isn't available on my
> new Kubuntu system, I suppose. How do I find out what are allowed
> values for font-family?)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: PHP Post mechanism for Feedback, Tasks and cooperation

2018-04-20 Thread Jed Carty

I added comments to one of my tiddlywikis (ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain) 
using hashover. It is a php-based commenting system. It is a big rough but 
the code for importing the comments as tiddlers may help. Some changes we 
made to our hosting setup broke the commenting system and I have been 
working on putting the multi-user tiddlywiki on line instead of bothering 
to fix it, but maybe some of how I import the comments may help a bit if 
you haven't already made a working system. The instructions for setting up 
hashover as a commenting system are here: 
https://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Adding%20comments%20sections%20to%20tiddlers%20on%20a%20tiddlywiki%20using%20hashover

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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:08:42 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> *Second*
>
> In this discussion there is talk of a GUID
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/Y1V7oyBLpSs
>

I have to say, I stopped following the tread, after my first post, as I saw 
Jeremy is involved, and the discussion seemed to be "heated". ... 
I wanted to wait a bit and see what happens. ... 

You know, I tend to produce "wall of texts", if I have a "strong opinion". 
... 

So may be now is the time to have a second look ;)

--- 

I think it would be quite easy to extend uni-link to provide references to 
> GUID's effectivly a GUID will be an Alias to a tiddler with a created date 
> (uniquified)
>

I'm in favor of a "GUI like" approach. As I pointed out I use 
"tiddler-titles-like-this", "likeThis" or "oneLike.this" ... because I like 
to type a search ".this"  ... Which will find all tiddlers that start with 
"(dot)this". ... I also pointed out, that creating good tiddler names is 
difficult. .. 

They should be 

 - easy to remember by humans
 - simple to type by humans
 - no special UI should be needed. 

__So__ I don't like GUIS. They are none of the above, because of their 
nature. ... 

All we need then is a GUID based on the Created date/time and miliseconds 
> decremented to be unique.
>

nope ... risk of duplicates is too high to be truly unique, even if you go 
down to the miliseconds.  This mechanism doesn't scale well enough .. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

2018-04-20 Thread BJ


HI Costi,

I use tiddlyclip with opera, I am on version 49 of opera (on ubuntu 14.04). 
It needs to be installed as an unpacked extension and the box "Allow access 
to file URLs" needs to be ticked. download the zip from here 
https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases. (and unzip)

If you are doing a lot of clipping you may want to also use the 
savetiddlers extension - https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers/releases - 
it also needs to be installed as an unpacked extension.

BJ


On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 11:23:42 AM UTC+2, Costi Budai wrote:
>
> Hi BJ,
>
> Any idea if this can be used with Opera browser any time soon? I've tried 
> some time ago, a kind of Opera ad-don allowing Chrome extensions to work 
> with Opera, but I couldn't make TC work...
>
> Thanks.
> Costi B.
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:57:11 AM UTC+3, BJ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Diego,
>> there is a description of how to load TC in chrome here:
>>
>> http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/#Upgrade%20Instructions
>>
>> The latest version of the browser plugin is here (it is a prerelease, but 
>> it is very similar to what with be the next full release):
>>
>> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases
>>
>> I have not registered to get the plugin on the chrome store yet, so you 
>> will have to use it is a developer mode.
>>
>> All the best BJ
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-04-20 Thread PMario

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:08:42 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> I just wanted to bump my question to your attention and ask another!
>

:)

> *First*
> Can I ask do you see any reason not to install uni-link in every wiki I 
> use? Is there anywhere this could trip us up, or is it basically invisible 
> until used?
>

I tried to make it backwards compatible as far as I can. So even if you use 
tiddlers that contain uni-links and alias-links in TWs, that don't have the 
plugin installed, nothing bad should happen. 

It will pretty-link all [[alias|?]] links to a tiddler named: ? ... Which 
shouldn't hurt too much :)
and uni-links just work the "old way" without caption and subtitle 
substitution.  

*-m*

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Re: [tw5] Re: PHP Post mechanism for Feedback, Tasks and cooperation

2018-04-20 Thread xanatoswetzel

Hi Jan,

to prevent closing you need to say the form that this is not wished:



title:>>
Created: 
Info1 wanted from user: 
Body: 



  


please note the target attribute in the form opening.
and the iframe at the end.

to your question if it is possible to  insert  php code trough this input:

yes someone can input php code. but this code is not executed.
as long as you only do string operation with the user input, I see no way 
how any php code is able to be executed.

only then you include the tiddlywiki file in your php script with a include 
statement it is possible that such code get executed.

so far from  me
QuaraMan

Am Donnerstag, 19. April 2018 22:47:08 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:
>
> Hi Quaraman,
> thanks, I tried out the code, (http://szenio.de/Kommentare/#Version%20Q)
> Your approach is to rebuild the .tid-file.
> I would like to extract it by means of the template because I also want to 
> have various fields in different usecases (geo-tagging, image und 
> video-urls etc)
> Therefore I would like to use the template which exports tid-files 
> {{$(storyTiddler)$||$:/core/templates/tid-tiddler}} .
>
> Do you have any ideas for preventing the Wiki from closing when pressing 
> submit and showing the message in a modal instead.
>
> Jan
>
> Am 18.04.2018 um 12:18 schrieb xanato...@gmail.com :
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> the best I would do is to separate  the fields in different questions to 
> the user:
>
> 1.
>
> 
>
> title: value=<>>
> Created: 
> Info1 wanted from user: 
> Body: 
> 
>
> 
>
> 2. The post.php 
>
>  $title = $_POST['title'];
> $created = $_POST['created'];
> $info1 = $_POST['info1'];
> $body = $_POST['body'];
>
> //this use a heredoc for php as explained here: 
> http://php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php
> $content= << title: $title
> created: $created
>
> ! Info1 answer from user
>
> $info1
>
> $body
> EOD;
>
> $postfile = fopen('post/'.$title.'.tid', "w") or die("Unable to open 
> file!");
> fwrite($postfile, $content);
> fclose($postfile);
> ?>
>
> That should do the trick.
>
> the time and day of the user send data can also be calculated, in php /  
> tiddlywiki 
>
> php: look at http://php.net/manual/en/function.date.php
> tiddlywiki look at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#now%20Macro
>
> QuaraMan
>
> Am Mittwoch, 18. April 2018 01:42:38 UTC+2 schrieb Jan: 
>>
>> Hello and thanks Quaraman,
>> how can I get the missing characters (is it /n) in to the file if the 
>> form? 
>> I guess it is the wikifikation that causes the trouble but without 
>> nothing gets inserted at all...
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 18.04.2018 um 00:38 schrieb xanato...@gmail.com:
>>
>> Hello Jan,
>>
>> the .tid file format is as follows (between the - lines):
>>
>> 
>> field1: value of field1
>> field2: value of field2
>>
>> content of tiddler
>> -
>>
>> so your file is only one line long.
>> the import process can also not finish, because it sees a tiddler with 
>> one field.
>>
>> hope that helps.
>> quaraman
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 17. April 2018 23:57:20 UTC+2 schrieb Jan: 
>>>
>>> Hello, 
>>> I have been seeking for a method to allow students to post contributions 
>>> in the form that I easily can import as a Tiddler. 
>>> Now finally I built a very basic mechanism to post a Tiddler to a 
>>> directory called post as a tid. 
>>>
>>> It consists of two parts 
>>>
>>> 1. The Upload-button (which is trancluded by a viewTemplate 
>>> \define ExportTid() {{$(storyTiddler)$||$:/core/templates/tid-tiddler}} 
>>>
>>> <$wikify name="ExTid"  text=<> > 
>>>  
>>> title:>> value=<>> 
>>> tiddler:> 
>>> > 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. The post.php 
>>> >> $title = $_POST['title']; 
>>> $content = $_POST['content']; 
>>> $postfile = fopen('post/'.$title.'.tid', "w") or die("Unable to open 
>>> file!"); 
>>> fwrite($postfile, $content); 
>>> fclose($postfile); 
>>> ?> 
>>>
>>> So far it generates a Tid which looks like exactly like the an exported 
>>> .Tid-file but appear to empty when importing it to TW. 
>>> And it closes the wiki. 
>>>
>>> So there is still a quite bunch of Questions to be solved: 
>>>
>>> 1. What is wrong with my .tid file? 
>>> 2. How do I avoid the TW form being closed when calling the php? 
>>> 3. Is there a way to trigger a TW-action with the same click that 
>>> submits the form? 
>>> 4. (a php-question)How can I avoid beeing pwned by someone inducing a 
>>> php through this mechanism. 
>>> I hope you can help me solving these things... 
>>>
>>> Jan 
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

2018-04-20 Thread Costi Budai

Hi BJ,

Any idea if this can be used with Opera browser any time soon? I've tried 
some time ago, a kind of Opera ad-don allowing Chrome extensions to work 
with Opera, but I couldn't make TC work...

Thanks.
Costi B.

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:57:11 AM UTC+3, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Diego,
> there is a description of how to load TC in chrome here:
>
> http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/#Upgrade%20Instructions
>
> The latest version of the browser plugin is here (it is a prerelease, but 
> it is very similar to what with be the next full release):
>
> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases
>
> I have not registered to get the plugin on the chrome store yet, so you 
> will have to use it is a developer mode.
>
> All the best BJ
>

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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

2018-04-20 Thread TonyM

Great BJ,

Looking forward to it. tiddlyclip really is an iconic TiddlyWiki solution. 
Thanks for developing it further.

Tony

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 5:25:51 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> the new version of tiddlyclip will support selecting areas of the screen 
> to screenshot  and allow the result to be saved separately from the docked 
> tiddlywiki.
>
> BJ
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:10:40 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The last time I tried using Snag-It, I found it pricey, and kind of 
>> confusing. I really liked Faststone, and would probably purchase it if I 
>> was doing frequent documentation. Green-shot works pretty well, but usually 
>> I get by with the screen-grab feature of IrfanView or even the mozilla 
>> screenshot tool that comes with FF. For images, anything that's in the 
>> clipboard can be pasted into TW.
>>
>> A utility that's really helpful when you need to grab multiple types of 
>> information without going back and forth is Ditto, a clipboard manager. So, 
>> if you're on a web page, you can grab an image (with FF screenshot), the 
>> url, the title of the article,and the text. Then go back and set up your 
>> tiddler, inserting the various bits (title, URL field, etc.) without having 
>> to go back and forth.  Linux has several clipboard managers in its 
>> distribution, though none quite as versatile as Ditto. I imagine the world 
>> of Mac has such things too.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:27:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> In defence of my original post
>>>
>>> if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a 
>>> document then including images and videos is fine.
>>>
>>> Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.
>>>
>>> I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break 
>>> the rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always 
>>> forced to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 5:40:15 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
 modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building 
 documentation.

 I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know 
 it can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki

- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
(PNG files)
- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text 
(OCR)
- or move text within the captured image
- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the 
snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki
- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used 
on their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki


 
- and a lot more that was already there.

 Regards
 Tony


 




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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

2018-04-20 Thread BJ

Hi Mark,
the new version of tiddlyclip will support selecting areas of the screen to 
screenshot  and allow the result to be saved separately from the docked 
tiddlywiki.

BJ

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:10:40 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The last time I tried using Snag-It, I found it pricey, and kind of 
> confusing. I really liked Faststone, and would probably purchase it if I 
> was doing frequent documentation. Green-shot works pretty well, but usually 
> I get by with the screen-grab feature of IrfanView or even the mozilla 
> screenshot tool that comes with FF. For images, anything that's in the 
> clipboard can be pasted into TW.
>
> A utility that's really helpful when you need to grab multiple types of 
> information without going back and forth is Ditto, a clipboard manager. So, 
> if you're on a web page, you can grab an image (with FF screenshot), the 
> url, the title of the article,and the text. Then go back and set up your 
> tiddler, inserting the various bits (title, URL field, etc.) without having 
> to go back and forth.  Linux has several clipboard managers in its 
> distribution, though none quite as versatile as Ditto. I imagine the world 
> of Mac has such things too.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:27:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> In defence of my original post
>>
>> if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a 
>> document then including images and videos is fine.
>>
>> Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.
>>
>> I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break 
>> the rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always 
>> forced to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>  
>>
>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 5:40:15 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
>>> modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.
>>>
>>> I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know 
>>> it can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki
>>>
>>>- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
>>>(PNG files)
>>>- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
>>>- or move text within the captured image
>>>- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit 
>>>editor tray to tiddlywiki
>>>- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used 
>>>on their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>- and a lot more that was already there.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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