[tw5] Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

[TonyM]

Folks,

I just stumbled across this, 

   - Using TiddlyViewer to display a website in an iframe within a tiddler, 
   I browsed to https://tiddlywiki.com/, found the Filter Operators tiddler.
   - I then used the menu button for this tiddler (at TiddlyWiki.com) to 
   Open in a New Window.
   - I now have a single tiddler view in a dedicated (browser panel) window 
   showing all Filter Operators.
   

*Now this in wonderful in its own right but can anyone workout how to 
trigger this directly without the need to browse to the external Wiki?*

If I could invoke a link to a tiddler to open in new window showing only 
that tiddler 

   - Links to reference material (in a single tiddler) from an external 
   wiki it would help immensely with with accessing support/Documentation.
   - Doing the same to $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Plugins in my central 
   collection wiki (on my desktop) also supports a form of TiddlyWiki 
   federation because I can drag Plugins from this window onto any Wiki in the 
   browser or TiddlyDesktop window.
  - And of course my buttons, lists of macros and filters etc...
   - This would even allow "Shared Tiddlers"  from another wiki to be 
   visible but not actually installed the current wiki unless dragged into the 
   current wiki, great for read only tiddlers at least
   - Further it would be nice if this Open in Window, single tiddler view 
   could be achieved inside a tiddler like an iframe but a single tiddler 
   iframe.
   
My first attempt was trying to wrap the open in new window button in a list 
that has the external tiddlers permalink, but I am not sure about my 
filters.

There may be some cross site restrictions on the internet but why should 
this be limited in my own local TW network?

Thanks in advance
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[TonyM]

Folks,

You need to look into the Two Panel TOC implementation to see the selected 
tiddler and the way the navigation works as it can be using an alternate 
story and history. I can see how it works in TWOutlier but in other 
outlines?

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:44:12 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> If new tiddlers are being generated, you might be calling with the wrong 
> parameters. This might be a good time to suggest that you be sure to have a 
> backup.
>
> For safety, you could call the toclink macro with names. Like
>
> < toc_home:"Noun">>
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:28:30 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much for this!! It seems to be navigating to "Nouns" but then 
>> also creating new tiddlers with a name equal to the title parameter and not 
>> actually selecting the child tiddler in the TOC.  I am probably missing 
>> something stupid but unfortunately I don't have much time to dig into it 
>> tonight.  I think I'm going to create a new test case from scratch to see 
>> if I have something funky in my current config.  I'll keep you posted.  
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:43:11 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, haven't tested this in every possible configuration. In your table 
>>> tiddler:
>>>
>>> \define selectTiddler() 
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="""$(selectedTiddler)$""" $value=
>>> """$(title)$"""/>
>>> <$action-navigate $to="$(toc_home)$"/>
>>> \end
>>> \define toclink(linkname,title,selectedTiddler:"$:/mySelection",toc_home
>>> :"Noun")
>>> <$vars title="""$title$""" toc_home="""$toc_home$"""  selectedTiddler=
>>> """$selectedTiddler$""" >
>>> <$button actions=<> class="tc-btn-invisible 
>>> tc-tiddlylink">$linkname$
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then for your link, use something like:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> The first parameter is the text you want to appear for the link.
>>>
>>> The 2nd parameter is the name of the tiddler you want to open in the TOC.
>>> The 3rd parameter is the name of the tiddler that holds the selected 
>>> Tiddler name. Te default is $:/mySelection, but it must be the same as 
>>> selectedTiddler in your toc macro. 
>>> The 4th parameter is the name of the tiddler that has the TOC. The 
>>> default for the last parameter is "Noun". I made it flexible in case there 
>>> were more than 1 TOC's you would be making. Just remember that for each 
>>> parent/link set  the parameter  for "selectedTiddler" must be the same.
>>>
>>> If you use these macros in more than one tiddler, then you might want to 
>>> put them in a global macro tiddler.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> -- Mark   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:

 You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
 tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, 
 right?

 Yes exactly!! The appearance isn't important at all.  I will start 
 looking into creating a button and if you have any tips/suggestions please 
 pass them along. Thanks!!

 On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:38:28 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.
>
> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, 
> right?
>
> If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a 
> link) to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and 
> then navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look 
> like a link if the appearance is really important to you.
>
> So, does that seem about right?
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
>> words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
>> notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
>> references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example 
>> I'm 
>> talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are 
>> in reference to noun classes for which I have created individual 
>> tiddlers...
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which 
>> is a child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun 
>> class. 
>> tiddlers or to the grandparent 

[tw5] Re: Presenting: SetUp - a guide to set up a great TW system

[TonyM]

Mat,

Whilst it would be nice to do this with TWC its options are very limited 
compared to TW5 (although there are still many) perhaps instead flag TWC in 
so far as does the "method" also support TWC as does TiddlyDesktop but 
redirect others to the TWC Discussion thread and information on Migration. 
I have just contributed to a thread on this 
here https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/L3p321qp7EU

The truth is the future is with TW5 and although existing TWC users may 
benefit from this information, I think it unwise to promote TWC as an 
answer to someone entering the TW universe, for its reduced maintenance, 
reduced futures and diminishing user base.

Further, I love your work here, I wanted to do something similar but are 
glad you have "taken this by the reigns", I plan to provide a community 
resource and Expect this reference work will be key.

Thanks
Tony

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 2:29:17 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> Guys, just quickly; I have been, and will continue to be, busy for a few 
> more days so difficult to work on this at the moment.
>
> But, regarding TWC on SetUp - sure, why not, if I can get some help if it 
> is much work with it. What I mean is; 
>
> If it is merely a matter of adding TWC as one of the criteria (i.e the top 
> row) then it'd be easy-peasy. That would mean you click a name like 
> "TWC-compatible" and see which SetUps that fulfill this... and from those 
> identified SetUp-rows see what other criteria the respective SetUp features.
>
> The more ambitious solution would be to introduce TWC as a qualifying 
> filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, Manager" and logically at that 
> level, i.e so that every listed SetUp will have to fulfill TWC and whatever 
> of "Saver, Server etc" that is ticked. This is not difficult to do but a 
> little iffy. However, what I would need help with then is to have others 
> bring in potential SetUps that are TWC specific and, again, the data for 
> them.
>
> Another thought:
> I think the site would bring more value if it could add more info about 
> individual setups. Obviously, not everything fits in the matrix and even if 
> I've added some comments in the respective SetUp-tiddlers, there is often 
> good stuff found in discussions on the boards. So, it would be useful to 
> somehow collect data such that can be added. I'm considering accepting 
> links to relevant discussions - or if someone other than me curates/refines 
> info, then this could be added to the individual setups. (Oh, a project 
> like this would be sooo spot-on for TWederation!!!)
>
>
> Again, please note I can't engage much in this for a few days.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Titles vs unique IDs

[TonyM]

Reto,

Thanks but I do not have enough knowledge to implement this in TW5, have 
you a finished solution I could use and modify?

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 9:12:26 PM UTC+10, Reto wrote:
>
> Nothing fancy here (I am not much of a JS programmer):
>
>function generateUniqueId(uniqueId) {
>   /* Returns a unique number based on date and time */
>   /* If the passed value is 0 then the function generates a new unique id 
> */
>   /* If the passed value is not 0 then the function checks if the value 
> ist unique */
>   var notUnique= 0;
>   /* Generate the unique number */
>   if(uniqueId == 0) {
>  uniqueId = new 
> Date().formatString(config.options.extendedBrainFormatUniqueId);
>   }
>   /* check if not already in use */
>   do {
>  if(checkUniqueId(uniqueId)) {
> uniqueId = parseInt(uniqueId) + 1;
> notUnique = 1;
>  } else {
> //alert(uniqueId + " is unique");
> notUnique = 0;
>  }
>   } while(notUnique);
>   return uniqueId;
>};
>
>
> config.options.extendedBrainFormatUniqueId = "0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss";
>
>
>
> Am Samstag, 2. Juni 2018 11:26:56 UTC+2 schrieb TonyM:
>>
>> Reto,
>>
>> Are you able to share the method you use to increment the date time. I 
>> belive milliseconds MMM can now be added to date time stamps.
>>
>> Of course I will share back my solution that you may be able to use some 
>> features.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Migration from TWC to TW5

[TonyM]

Reto,

Understood.  As highlighted below not as manual as you think, yes much of 
what required plugins is in the core or easier to implement than in TWC

Please clarify when you say "* in this way I woukdn't break the features 
within each tiddler. And I could maintain further development of my TWC 
tiddlers." * and *"Maybe there is a way to add TW5 content which is ignored 
by TWC and have TWC content which is ignored in TW5?"*
After reading my notes below.

Personally I think you need to recreate the functionality and bring your 
content into the new wiki(s) in a logical way, not as you appear to be 
suggesting.


Are you aware you can import tiddlers from TWC into TW5 using the same 
import mechanism as TW5, select the source tiddlywiki and give it time for 
the list to build. You can then preview tiddlers and selectively import.

Please see below for something new I learned, while preparing this response.

One trick is to copy the list of tiddler names in the import into another 
tiddler and use this to subsequently organise the imported items. 
Personally I like using Marios Bundler - Simple UI to create tiddler 
bundles, with the import bundle feature selected, this records every item 
imported. I would use an empty TW5 to import your tiddlers then drag and 
drop into the actual TW5 designed to receive them. The import recognises 
TWC tiddlers and and points you 
to https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Upgrading.html which is somewhat miss 
leading. Usingn the Upgrade button converts the tiddler to TW5 which 
initially can look unsuccessful due to the different handling of line 
breaks. *I would use a Editor toolbar button I created to prefix lines with 
; or : to help in the rapid repair of such tiddlers*. Keep in mind they 
need not be made pretty if they are for archive purposes until you need to. 
Perhaps convert them "just in time" for actual use.

Of course if you want more granularity for the import one way is to use TWC 
to export to a fresh wiki a subset of tiddlers before you try and import 
them to TW5. To negate Browser compatibility and save issues use 
TiddlyDesktop which allows the very powerful TWC 
Plugin http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin to work well. You 
can use this to filter on almost anything via tags etc.. before export. You 
could take a copy of your TWC first and use the export tool to also delete 
all tiddlers exported, so you eventually have none left. 

Personally I would try and separate code related tiddlers from content 
related tiddlers. And create new ones to separate it where they are 
embedded. The thing is if your tiddlers were defined as say ProjectTasks 
then you will import these into a TiddlyWiki to handle your project tasks 
so hopefully they are already organised that way.

*Learned, while preparing this response*.

If you drag a full TWC onto the Upgrade 
mechanisium https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html it does a decent job of 
importing all tiddlers into TW5, You can then use the Tag Manager, and 
Tiddler Manager to start upgrading critical tiddlers and then drag these to 
tour target wiki when ready. The Bundler plugin would be helpful here as 
well, including plain bundles for random tiddler names, or the filtered 
bundles for simple or sophisticated filters that helps you see the results 
before export. This mechaisium also names all the incompatible TWC Plugins 
allowing you to consider what functionality you need may to replace or find 
in TW5.

Do continue the conversation here, and we can help others on the same 
journey.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

If new tiddlers are being generated, you might be calling with the wrong 
parameters. This might be a good time to suggest that you be sure to have a 
backup.

For safety, you could call the toclink macro with names. Like

<>

Good luck
-- Mark

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:28:30 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this!! It seems to be navigating to "Nouns" but then 
> also creating new tiddlers with a name equal to the title parameter and not 
> actually selecting the child tiddler in the TOC.  I am probably missing 
> something stupid but unfortunately I don't have much time to dig into it 
> tonight.  I think I'm going to create a new test case from scratch to see 
> if I have something funky in my current config.  I'll keep you posted.  
> Thanks again.
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:43:11 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Ok, haven't tested this in every possible configuration. In your table 
>> tiddler:
>>
>> \define selectTiddler() 
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="""$(selectedTiddler)$""" $value=
>> """$(title)$"""/>
>> <$action-navigate $to="$(toc_home)$"/>
>> \end
>> \define toclink(linkname,title,selectedTiddler:"$:/mySelection",toc_home:
>> "Noun")
>> <$vars title="""$title$""" toc_home="""$toc_home$"""  selectedTiddler=
>> """$selectedTiddler$""" >
>> <$button actions=<> class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink"
>> >$linkname$
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>>
>>
>> Then for your link, use something like:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> The first parameter is the text you want to appear for the link.
>>
>> The 2nd parameter is the name of the tiddler you want to open in the TOC.
>> The 3rd parameter is the name of the tiddler that holds the selected 
>> Tiddler name. Te default is $:/mySelection, but it must be the same as 
>> selectedTiddler in your toc macro. 
>> The 4th parameter is the name of the tiddler that has the TOC. The 
>> default for the last parameter is "Noun". I made it flexible in case there 
>> were more than 1 TOC's you would be making. Just remember that for each 
>> parent/link set  the parameter  for "selectedTiddler" must be the same.
>>
>> If you use these macros in more than one tiddler, then you might want to 
>> put them in a global macro tiddler.
>>
>> HTH
>> -- Mark   
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>>
>>> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
>>> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>>>
>>> Yes exactly!! The appearance isn't important at all.  I will start 
>>> looking into creating a button and if you have any tips/suggestions please 
>>> pass them along. Thanks!!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:38:28 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:

 Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.

 You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
 tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, 
 right?

 If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a 
 link) to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and 
 then navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look 
 like a link if the appearance is really important to you.

 So, does that seem about right?

 -- Mark

 On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
> words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
> notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
> references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example 
> I'm 
> talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives
>
>
> 
>
>
> as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are 
> in reference to noun classes for which I have created individual 
> tiddlers...
>
>
> 
>
>
> These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which 
> is a child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun 
> class. 
> tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
> what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
> 'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
> picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
> expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, 
> I 
> am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open 
> the 
> 

[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

When you get a chance, please show how you are calling it.

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:28:30 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this!! It seems to be navigating to "Nouns" but then 
> also creating new tiddlers with a name equal to the title parameter and not 
> actually selecting the child tiddler in the TOC.  I am probably missing 
> something stupid but unfortunately I don't have much time to dig into it 
> tonight.  I think I'm going to create a new test case from scratch to see 
> if I have something funky in my current config.  I'll keep you posted.  
> Thanks again.
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:43:11 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Ok, haven't tested this in every possible configuration. In your table 
>> tiddler:
>>
>> \define selectTiddler() 
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="""$(selectedTiddler)$""" $value=
>> """$(title)$"""/>
>> <$action-navigate $to="$(toc_home)$"/>
>> \end
>> \define toclink(linkname,title,selectedTiddler:"$:/mySelection",toc_home:
>> "Noun")
>> <$vars title="""$title$""" toc_home="""$toc_home$"""  selectedTiddler=
>> """$selectedTiddler$""" >
>> <$button actions=<> class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink"
>> >$linkname$
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>>
>>
>> Then for your link, use something like:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> The first parameter is the text you want to appear for the link.
>>
>> The 2nd parameter is the name of the tiddler you want to open in the TOC.
>> The 3rd parameter is the name of the tiddler that holds the selected 
>> Tiddler name. Te default is $:/mySelection, but it must be the same as 
>> selectedTiddler in your toc macro. 
>> The 4th parameter is the name of the tiddler that has the TOC. The 
>> default for the last parameter is "Noun". I made it flexible in case there 
>> were more than 1 TOC's you would be making. Just remember that for each 
>> parent/link set  the parameter  for "selectedTiddler" must be the same.
>>
>> If you use these macros in more than one tiddler, then you might want to 
>> put them in a global macro tiddler.
>>
>> HTH
>> -- Mark   
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>>
>>> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
>>> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>>>
>>> Yes exactly!! The appearance isn't important at all.  I will start 
>>> looking into creating a button and if you have any tips/suggestions please 
>>> pass them along. Thanks!!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:38:28 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:

 Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.

 You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
 tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, 
 right?

 If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a 
 link) to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and 
 then navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look 
 like a link if the appearance is really important to you.

 So, does that seem about right?

 -- Mark

 On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
> words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
> notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
> references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example 
> I'm 
> talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives
>
>
> 
>
>
> as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are 
> in reference to noun classes for which I have created individual 
> tiddlers...
>
>
> 
>
>
> These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which 
> is a child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun 
> class. 
> tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
> what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
> 'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
> picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
> expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, 
> I 
> am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open 
> the 
> "Nouns" tiddler, expand "Classes" in the TOC and select a specific 'Noun 
> Class' tiddler.  So for example, from the "Demonstratives" tiddler shown 
> 

[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[Clayton Northrup]

Thanks so much for this!! It seems to be navigating to "Nouns" but then 
also creating new tiddlers with a name equal to the title parameter and not 
actually selecting the child tiddler in the TOC.  I am probably missing 
something stupid but unfortunately I don't have much time to dig into it 
tonight.  I think I'm going to create a new test case from scratch to see 
if I have something funky in my current config.  I'll keep you posted.  
Thanks again.

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:43:11 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok, haven't tested this in every possible configuration. In your table 
> tiddler:
>
> \define selectTiddler() 
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="""$(selectedTiddler)$""" $value=
> """$(title)$"""/>
> <$action-navigate $to="$(toc_home)$"/>
> \end
> \define toclink(linkname,title,selectedTiddler:"$:/mySelection",toc_home:
> "Noun")
> <$vars title="""$title$""" toc_home="""$toc_home$"""  selectedTiddler=
> """$selectedTiddler$""" >
> <$button actions=<> class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink">
> $linkname$
> 
> 
> \end
>
>
>
> Then for your link, use something like:
>
> <>
>
> The first parameter is the text you want to appear for the link.
>
> The 2nd parameter is the name of the tiddler you want to open in the TOC.
> The 3rd parameter is the name of the tiddler that holds the selected 
> Tiddler name. Te default is $:/mySelection, but it must be the same as 
> selectedTiddler in your toc macro. 
> The 4th parameter is the name of the tiddler that has the TOC. The default 
> for the last parameter is "Noun". I made it flexible in case there were 
> more than 1 TOC's you would be making. Just remember that for each 
> parent/link set  the parameter  for "selectedTiddler" must be the same.
>
> If you use these macros in more than one tiddler, then you might want to 
> put them in a global macro tiddler.
>
> HTH
> -- Mark   
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>
>> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
>> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>>
>> Yes exactly!! The appearance isn't important at all.  I will start 
>> looking into creating a button and if you have any tips/suggestions please 
>> pass them along. Thanks!!
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:38:28 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.
>>>
>>> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
>>> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>>>
>>> If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a 
>>> link) to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and 
>>> then navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look 
>>> like a link if the appearance is really important to you.
>>>
>>> So, does that seem about right?
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:

 Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
 words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
 notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
 references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example 
 I'm 
 talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives


 


 as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are 
 in reference to noun classes for which I have created individual 
 tiddlers...


 


 These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which 
 is a child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun class. 
 tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
 what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
 'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
 picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
 expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, I 
 am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open 
 the 
 "Nouns" tiddler, expand "Classes" in the TOC and select a specific 'Noun 
 Class' tiddler.  So for example, from the "Demonstratives" tiddler shown 
 above, click on the "(1/2)..." link and open the "Nouns" tiddler with the 
 "(1/2) m/wa" content displayed on the right side of the pane without 
 having 
 to actually click on the "(1/2) m/wa" link from within the TOC for "Nouns"


 

[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Ok, haven't tested this in every possible configuration. In your table 
tiddler:

\define selectTiddler() 
<$action-setfield $tiddler="""$(selectedTiddler)$""" $value="""$(title)$"""
/>
<$action-navigate $to="$(toc_home)$"/>
\end
\define toclink(linkname,title,selectedTiddler:"$:/mySelection",toc_home:
"Noun")
<$vars title="""$title$""" toc_home="""$toc_home$"""  selectedTiddler=
"""$selectedTiddler$""" >
<$button actions=<> class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink">
$linkname$


\end



Then for your link, use something like:

<>

The first parameter is the text you want to appear for the link.

The 2nd parameter is the name of the tiddler you want to open in the TOC.
The 3rd parameter is the name of the tiddler that holds the selected 
Tiddler name. Te default is $:/mySelection, but it must be the same as 
selectedTiddler in your toc macro. 
The 4th parameter is the name of the tiddler that has the TOC. The default 
for the last parameter is "Noun". I made it flexible in case there were 
more than 1 TOC's you would be making. Just remember that for each 
parent/link set  the parameter  for "selectedTiddler" must be the same.

If you use these macros in more than one tiddler, then you might want to 
put them in a global macro tiddler.

HTH
-- Mark   



On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:18:51 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>
> Yes exactly!! The appearance isn't important at all.  I will start looking 
> into creating a button and if you have any tips/suggestions please pass 
> them along. Thanks!!
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:38:28 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.
>>
>> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
>> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>>
>> If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a link) 
>> to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and then 
>> navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look like a 
>> link if the appearance is really important to you.
>>
>> So, does that seem about right?
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
>>> words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
>>> notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
>>> references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example I'm 
>>> talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are in 
>>> reference to noun classes for which I have created individual tiddlers...
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which is 
>>> a child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun class. 
>>> tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
>>> what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
>>> 'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
>>> picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
>>> expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, I 
>>> am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open the 
>>> "Nouns" tiddler, expand "Classes" in the TOC and select a specific 'Noun 
>>> Class' tiddler.  So for example, from the "Demonstratives" tiddler shown 
>>> above, click on the "(1/2)..." link and open the "Nouns" tiddler with the 
>>> "(1/2) m/wa" content displayed on the right side of the pane without having 
>>> to actually click on the "(1/2) m/wa" link from within the TOC for "Nouns"
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hopefully I didn't make it more confusing :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:49:05 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:

 I'm still confused. Maybe you could draw on the screenshot, to show 
 what you would like to see.

 -- Mark

 On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 10:46:14 AM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Thanks to Mark and Tony for the quick replies and examples! I'm just 
> getting a chance to look them over.  I apologize but I don't think I 
> explained myself very well :/  I should 

[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[David Gifford]

already put it there this morning. Nice stuff coming out this week

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 7:33:51 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thank you BTC.
> To David, please add this plugin info into Tiddlywiki toolmap
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:59:20 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> for those who already want to use global keyboard shortcuts within their 
>> wikies, I've made a plugin and a little plugin-info-page:
>>
>> http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> have fun with it,
>> BTC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow application

[David Gifford]

TiddlyWiki toolmap isn't for classic, only for TiddlyWiki. Thanks, though.

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 11:16:17 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> @David
>
> Hello David,
>  There is one interesting slideshow application based on classic TW 2.6 I 
> think at
>
> http://tiddlyslidy.com
>
>
>  Please also this to your list. It seems their developer were part of TW 
> team at Osmosoft. I could not go into details but I think this is the most 
> complete TW application for slide show
> It supports shortcutkeys, note and theme.
>
> I hope developer Paul Downey could take a look and possibly import it to 
> TW5.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>  
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 8:21:57 PM UTC+4:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad
>>
>> I added tiddlyshow to the TiddlyWiki toolmap. Blessings!
>>
>> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
>>> application not an edition not a plugin.
>>> It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
>>> simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki
>>>
>>> http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> [To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]
>>>
>>> This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
>>> answer to question in this forum.
>>> Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, 
>>> Tobias, Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
>>> (Sorry if I forgot a name ...)
>>>
>>> I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I 
>>> will later upload this to Github in the hope
>>> people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
>>> contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
>>>  - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
>>>  - effects
>>>  - shortcut keys
>>>  - export to pdf
>>>
>>> I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.
>>>
>>> Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
>>> indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
>>> for them.
>>> By the way let me know if there is a violation!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow application

[David Gifford]

yes, thanks!

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 7:22:56 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I assume you have returned then. I will email the few things I captured in 
> your absence.
>
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:51:57 AM UTC+10, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad
>>
>> I added tiddlyshow to the TiddlyWiki toolmap. Blessings!
>>
>> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
>>> application not an edition not a plugin.
>>> It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
>>> simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki
>>>
>>> http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> [To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]
>>>
>>> This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
>>> answer to question in this forum.
>>> Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, 
>>> Tobias, Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
>>> (Sorry if I forgot a name ...)
>>>
>>> I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I 
>>> will later upload this to Github in the hope
>>> people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
>>> contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
>>>  - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
>>>  - effects
>>>  - shortcut keys
>>>  - export to pdf
>>>
>>> I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.
>>>
>>> Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
>>> indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
>>> for them.
>>> By the way let me know if there is a violation!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[Clayton Northrup]

You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?

Yes exactly!! The appearance isn't important at all.  I will start looking 
into creating a button and if you have any tips/suggestions please pass 
them along. Thanks!!

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:38:28 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.
>
> You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
> tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?
>
> If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a link) 
> to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and then 
> navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look like a 
> link if the appearance is really important to you.
>
> So, does that seem about right?
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
>> words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
>> notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
>> references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example I'm 
>> talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are in 
>> reference to noun classes for which I have created individual tiddlers...
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which is 
>> a child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun class. 
>> tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
>> what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
>> 'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
>> picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
>> expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, I 
>> am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open the 
>> "Nouns" tiddler, expand "Classes" in the TOC and select a specific 'Noun 
>> Class' tiddler.  So for example, from the "Demonstratives" tiddler shown 
>> above, click on the "(1/2)..." link and open the "Nouns" tiddler with the 
>> "(1/2) m/wa" content displayed on the right side of the pane without having 
>> to actually click on the "(1/2) m/wa" link from within the TOC for "Nouns"
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hopefully I didn't make it more confusing :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:49:05 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm still confused. Maybe you could draw on the screenshot, to show what 
>>> you would like to see.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 10:46:14 AM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:

 Thanks to Mark and Tony for the quick replies and examples! I'm just 
 getting a chance to look them over.  I apologize but I don't think I 
 explained myself very well :/  I should have just included a screenshot in 
 the first place to show what I was talking about instead of speaking in 
 generalities.  I would like to be able to link to the 'Nouns' tiddler with 
 "(3/4) m/mi" ...or any of the other children already selected so their 
 info 
 is showing in the right-hand pane...is that possible?  I'm super new to 
 this so still trying to figure out the capabilities/limitations.  Thanks 
 again!


 

>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to refresh a JavaScript widget based on a parsed tiddler ?

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Thank you... but I cannot make it work so far...
>
> It appears that the 
>
> if($tw.utils.hop(self.allTiddlers[i],changedTiddlers))
>
> generates the following error: 
>
> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot convert object to primitive value
>
> Apologies, I believe I made a mistake here

Does it work if you switch the arguments?

if($tw.utils.hop(changedTiddlers,self.allTiddlers[i]))


---

Also, I learned today that one can use 
$tw.wiki.getTiddlersWithTag(this.filterTag); instead of $tw.wiki.
filterTiddlers("[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag[" + this.filterTag + "]]");

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

>
> @BTC
>  Your solution works great!
> I have assigned Enter, Space, PageDown and Right-arror for next tiddler 
> (slide) and Left-arrow, PageUp for previous.
>

Awesome 

>
> There is some adjustment remained. For example, if I click on the 
> next-slide button or previous-button, the state tiddler is not notified.
> Also after slideshow, the next time state tiddler still has the last slide 
> title and it should rewind.
>

Yes, you'll need the same solution within your next and previous buttons
you could add this to the button that starts and ends a presentation:
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler"/>

and modify my code from above:

<$list filter="[[$:/state/presentation-tiddler]is[missing]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" text={{{ 
[list[$:/StoryList]nth[1]] }}}/>

<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]count[]]" variable="storyCount">
<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]nth!title{$:/state/
presentation-tiddler}]">
<$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
variable="nextTiddler">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" text=<
>/>
<$action-navigate $to=<>/>




With this it sets the state tiddler to the first tiddler if it's missing - 
and it should be missing when you add the above line to the presentation 
launcher

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[Mohammad]

@BTC
 Your solution works great!
I have assigned Enter, Space, PageDown and Right-arror for next tiddler 
(slide) and Left-arrow, PageUp for previous.

There is some adjustment remained. For example, if I click on the 
next-slide button or previous-button, the state tiddler is not notified.
Also after slideshow, the next time state tiddler still has the last slide 
title and it should rewind.


Cheers
Mohammad



On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi again BTC
>>
>> If I use Zoomin storyview is this the correct code for defining shortcuts 
>> to navigate forward and backward through Tiddlers in story river
>>
>>
>>- Goto next tiddler in story view with ctrl-N 
>>
>> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">
>> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
>> 
>> 
>>  tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>>
>>- Goto previous tiddler in story view with ctrl-P
>>
>> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">
>> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>>
>> I have required tiddlers for description
>>
>>
>>- $:/config/ShortcutInfo/next-tiddler   text: Next tiddler in 
>>story river
>>- $:/config/ShortcutInfo/previous-tiddlertext: Previous tiddler 
>>in story river
>>
>>
> Hi Mohammad, there's a problem you need to work around: the currentTiddler 
> is not the same outside of the story river as within the story river (the 
> keyboard shortcuts are outside the story river)
> That's why [is[current]] in a keyboard shortcut will not match a tiddler 
> in the story river.
>
> The currentTiddler in the story river is defined through the list widget 
> in the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story Tiddler. You need a way to know 
> outside of the story river which one is the currently viewed tiddler to 
> make your idea work.
> The list widget in the story pagetemplate lists all tiddlers that are 
> listed in the $:/StoryList tiddler's list field:
>
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]]" .../>
>
> If you start a presentation, you could set the text of a state tiddler , 
> say $:/state/presentation-tiddler, to the title of the first tiddler in the 
> presentation
> When you go to the next Tiddler with your next button, you would set that 
> state tiddler to the next title (previous title for the previous button). 
> You would do the same in the keyboard shortcuts.
> Like that you should always have a reference which tiddler is shown.
>
> If you know the currently viewed tiddler you get the next from the 
> $:/StoryList with this filter:
>
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="nextTiddler">
>
> the previous:
>
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}previous[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="previousTiddler">
>
> I would add a check if we're at the beginning or the end of the story list:
>
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]count[]]" variable="storyCount">
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]nth
> !title{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}]">
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="nextTiddler">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" 
> text=<>/>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
>
> Don't hesitate to ask if the how or why is unclear
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

Hi Diego,
 

> As usual BTC, this is fantastic!!! I really really hope this makes it into 
> the core!! 
>

It's looking good that it does :) 

>
> Side note: I tried to get the focus on search one working but was unable 
> to. 
>

did you tag the tiddler that holds the code for the action with 
$:/tags/KeyboardShortcut?
did you create a $:/config/ShortcutInfo/quick-search tiddler and set the 
quick-search shortcut in the control panel?
did you add the field "key" to the tiddler tagged with 
$:/tags/KeyboardShortcut and put ((quick-search)) in its value field?

if you follow these 3 steps it should work I think - it does so for me

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

It looks like it works fine after restart. I played with it. After closing 
and reopening Bob the items appear in child wiki ...

In Bob settings I put ... 



... and (after restart) using the "<>" got, correctly, 
back, in a child wiki, no problem.


Fabulous stuff! Thanks!

Jed Carty wrote:
>
> It looks like the settings tiddlers are not updated in child wikis if they 
> are loaded before the changes are made. This may be a bit more complex to 
> fix.
>

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[tw5] Help for external tiddlers

[Dave KP]

Hello,

I have been searching around the google groups and I tried to use Tobias 
Beer's external plugin but it either isn't designed for what I want or I'm 
not using it right.

Here is my setup. I have a tiddlywiki html file "Glossary.html" which 
contains tiddlers that define a single concept or term. What I want to be 
able to do is to link to these tiddlers from other html tiddlywiki files 
the same way you would any normal tiddler.

I want to be able to link to these tiddlers from several different 
tiddlywiki html files.

For example, in a tiddlywiki file "Notes for meeting 3" We have a Tiddler 
"Agenda item 3" that contains:

*We discussed the thing with the thing relating to this general term.*

Where '*general term*' links to a Tiddler in Glossary.html that opens 
inside "Notes for meeting 3" under the current tiddler (as per any normally 
linked tiddler).

As I said I already tried to use the external plugin from Tobias Beer but 
I'm not sure it is suitable. If it is can someone explain (In really basic 
steps) how to get it working? If it's not is what I want even possible?

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[Diego Mesa]

As usual BTC, this is fantastic!!! I really really hope this makes it into 
the core!! 

Side note: I tried to get the focus on search one working but was unable 
to. 

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 6:29:20 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> for those who already want to use global keyboard shortcuts within their 
> wikies, I've made a plugin and a little plugin-info-page:
>
> http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> have fun with it,
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: How to refresh a JavaScript widget based on a parsed tiddler ?

[Silverfox]

Thank you... but I cannot make it work so far...

It appears that the 

if($tw.utils.hop(self.allTiddlers[i],changedTiddlers))

generates the following error: 

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot convert object to primitive value

I don't understand how to solve it...




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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[Jed Carty]

It looks like the settings tiddlers are not updated in child wikis if they 
are loaded before the changes are made. This may be a bit more complex to 
fix.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[Jed Carty]

The settings have worked for me in different wikis. You can only set them 
in the root wiki and you have to remember to click the 'update settings' 
button after adding or changing the settings.

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Ok, before I get off on the wrong track.

You want to click on the "class #" link (e.g. 1/2) and have the Nouns 
tiddler open, already displaying the "(1/2) m/wa" tiddler in the TOC, right?

If so, the trick to this, I think, is to use a button (instead of a link) 
to set the value of the tiddler referenced by selectedTiddler and then 
navigate to Noun. The button can be changed with CSS I think to look like a 
link if the appearance is really important to you.

So, does that seem about right?

-- Mark

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
> words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
> notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
> references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example I'm 
> talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives
>
>
> 
>
>
> as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are in 
> reference to noun classes for which I have created individual tiddlers...
>
>
> 
>
>
> These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which is a 
> child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun class. 
> tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
> what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
> 'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
> picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
> expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, I 
> am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open the 
> "Nouns" tiddler, expand "Classes" in the TOC and select a specific 'Noun 
> Class' tiddler.  So for example, from the "Demonstratives" tiddler shown 
> above, click on the "(1/2)..." link and open the "Nouns" tiddler with the 
> "(1/2) m/wa" content displayed on the right side of the pane without having 
> to actually click on the "(1/2) m/wa" link from within the TOC for "Nouns"
>
>
> 
>
> Hopefully I didn't make it more confusing :)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:49:05 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm still confused. Maybe you could draw on the screenshot, to show what 
>> you would like to see.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 10:46:14 AM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks to Mark and Tony for the quick replies and examples! I'm just 
>>> getting a chance to look them over.  I apologize but I don't think I 
>>> explained myself very well :/  I should have just included a screenshot in 
>>> the first place to show what I was talking about instead of speaking in 
>>> generalities.  I would like to be able to link to the 'Nouns' tiddler with 
>>> "(3/4) m/mi" ...or any of the other children already selected so their info 
>>> is showing in the right-hand pane...is that possible?  I'm super new to 
>>> this so still trying to figure out the capabilities/limitations.  Thanks 
>>> again!
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[Clayton Northrup]

Sorry for all the confusion I'm probably not using the correct 
words/phrases or I'm trying to do something that can't be done :)  The 
notebook is a reference for learning Swahili so there are a lot of cross 
references to relate various rules and parts of speech.  In the example I'm 
talking about, I have a tiddler for Demonstratives




as you can see there are links under the "Class #" column.  These are in 
reference to noun classes for which I have created individual tiddlers...




These 'Noun Class' tiddlers are children to a "Classes" tiddler which is a 
child to "Nouns".  I can create a link to the individual 'noun class. 
tiddlers or to the grandparent "Nouns" tiddler with no problem.  however 
what I want is to create a link to the "Nouns" tiddler so that a specific 
'Noun Class' tiddler is selected from the table of contents.  So in the 
picture below I have the "Nouns" tiddler open and the "Classes" tiddler 
expanded and the "(3/4) m/mi" 'Noun Class' tiddler selected.  In effect, I 
am looking for a way to create a link from a different tiddler and open the 
"Nouns" tiddler, expand "Classes" in the TOC and select a specific 'Noun 
Class' tiddler.  So for example, from the "Demonstratives" tiddler shown 
above, click on the "(1/2)..." link and open the "Nouns" tiddler with the 
"(1/2) m/wa" content displayed on the right side of the pane without having 
to actually click on the "(1/2) m/wa" link from within the TOC for "Nouns"



Hopefully I didn't make it more confusing :)

Thanks!






On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:49:05 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm still confused. Maybe you could draw on the screenshot, to show what 
> you would like to see.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 10:46:14 AM UTC-7, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to Mark and Tony for the quick replies and examples! I'm just 
>> getting a chance to look them over.  I apologize but I don't think I 
>> explained myself very well :/  I should have just included a screenshot in 
>> the first place to show what I was talking about instead of speaking in 
>> generalities.  I would like to be able to link to the 'Nouns' tiddler with 
>> "(3/4) m/mi" ...or any of the other children already selected so their info 
>> is showing in the right-hand pane...is that possible?  I'm super new to 
>> this so still trying to figure out the capabilities/limitations.  Thanks 
>> again!
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[Mohammad]

Thank you BTC,
 Actually, I am trying to adopt these shortcuts in Tiddlyshow app! So, let 
me try the revised code and I will return to you to share the result.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi again BTC
>>
>> If I use Zoomin storyview is this the correct code for defining shortcuts 
>> to navigate forward and backward through Tiddlers in story river
>>
>>
>>- Goto next tiddler in story view with ctrl-N 
>>
>> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">
>> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
>> 
>> 
>>  tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>>
>>- Goto previous tiddler in story view with ctrl-P
>>
>> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">
>> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>>
>> I have required tiddlers for description
>>
>>
>>- $:/config/ShortcutInfo/next-tiddler   text: Next tiddler in 
>>story river
>>- $:/config/ShortcutInfo/previous-tiddlertext: Previous tiddler 
>>in story river
>>
>>
> Hi Mohammad, there's a problem you need to work around: the currentTiddler 
> is not the same outside of the story river as within the story river (the 
> keyboard shortcuts are outside the story river)
> That's why [is[current]] in a keyboard shortcut will not match a tiddler 
> in the story river.
>
> The currentTiddler in the story river is defined through the list widget 
> in the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story Tiddler. You need a way to know 
> outside of the story river which one is the currently viewed tiddler to 
> make your idea work.
> The list widget in the story pagetemplate lists all tiddlers that are 
> listed in the $:/StoryList tiddler's list field:
>
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]]" .../>
>
> If you start a presentation, you could set the text of a state tiddler , 
> say $:/state/presentation-tiddler, to the title of the first tiddler in the 
> presentation
> When you go to the next Tiddler with your next button, you would set that 
> state tiddler to the next title (previous title for the previous button). 
> You would do the same in the keyboard shortcuts.
> Like that you should always have a reference which tiddler is shown.
>
> If you know the currently viewed tiddler you get the next from the 
> $:/StoryList with this filter:
>
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="nextTiddler">
>
> the previous:
>
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}previous[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="previousTiddler">
>
> I would add a check if we're at the beginning or the end of the story list:
>
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]count[]]" variable="storyCount">
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]nth
> !title{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}]">
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="nextTiddler">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" 
> text=<>/>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
>
> Don't hesitate to ask if the how or why is unclear
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Jed Carty wrote:
>
> ... I will fix it but I don't think that the single executable version is 
> going to be updated until I get back to Paris.
>

To try make it a bit easier for you I went on GitHub intending to raise an 
Issue that pointed to what we discussed. Your new GitHub setup, even after 
I did "x" in the right boxes, didn't let me post :-(. Not sure what the 
issue was. I was logged in.

Just letting you know.
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Thanks. Got it. That works fine for "<>" in a 
child wiki.

Is it supposed to work if I create my own settings too? 

J.

Jed ...
>
> For the getSettings macro I put in the wrong syntax for calling a macro. I 
> put key="First##;Second" instead of key:"First##Second". You can just drop 
> the key part and use this:
>
> <>
>
> that example should work in any wiki served by Bob
>


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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

@Mohammad

I've edited the last code example

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi again BTC
>
> If I use Zoomin storyview is this the correct code for defining shortcuts 
> to navigate forward and backward through Tiddlers in story river
>
>
>- Goto next tiddler in story view with ctrl-N 
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
> <$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">
> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
> 
> 
>  tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>
>- Goto previous tiddler in story view with ctrl-P
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
> <$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">
> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
> 
> 
> tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>
> I have required tiddlers for description
>
>
>- $:/config/ShortcutInfo/next-tiddler   text: Next tiddler in 
>story river
>- $:/config/ShortcutInfo/previous-tiddlertext: Previous tiddler in 
>story river
>
>
Hi Mohammad, there's a problem you need to work around: the currentTiddler 
is not the same outside of the story river as within the story river (the 
keyboard shortcuts are outside the story river)
That's why [is[current]] in a keyboard shortcut will not match a tiddler in 
the story river.

The currentTiddler in the story river is defined through the list widget in 
the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story Tiddler. You need a way to know outside 
of the story river which one is the currently viewed tiddler to make your 
idea work.
The list widget in the story pagetemplate lists all tiddlers that are 
listed in the $:/StoryList tiddler's list field:

<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]]" .../>

If you start a presentation, you could set the text of a state tiddler , 
say $:/state/presentation-tiddler, to the title of the first tiddler in the 
presentation
When you go to the next Tiddler with your next button, you would set that 
state tiddler to the next title (previous title for the previous button). 
You would do the same in the keyboard shortcuts.
Like that you should always have a reference which tiddler is shown.

If you know the currently viewed tiddler you get the next from the 
$:/StoryList with this filter:

<$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
variable="nextTiddler">

the previous:

<$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}previous[$:/StoryList]]" 
variable="previousTiddler">

I would add a check if we're at the beginning or the end of the story list:

<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]count[]]" variable="storyCount">
<$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]nth
!title{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}]">
<$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
variable="nextTiddler">
<$action-navigate $to=<>/>




Don't hesitate to ask if the how or why is unclear

BTC

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Ciao BTC
>
> In your approach, which looks really interesting, is it possible to 
> associate keystrokes combos with opening a single tiddler? Case: I often 
> need to work with one or two configuration Tiddlers and its a lot of 
> strokes to find them (they have "$:/" system names). What would the code 
> needed be?
>

Hi Josiah, Mohammads  suggestion is exactly right!
What you can do with a button is also possible with a keyboard shortcut

BTC

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[Clayton Northrup]

Thanks to Mark and Tony for the quick replies and examples! I'm just 
getting a chance to look them over.  I apologize but I don't think I 
explained myself very well :/  I should have just included a screenshot in 
the first place to show what I was talking about instead of speaking in 
generalities.  I would like to be able to link to the 'Nouns' tiddler with 
"(3/4) m/mi" ...or any of the other children already selected so their info 
is showing in the right-hand pane...is that possible?  I'm super new to 
this so still trying to figure out the capabilities/limitations.  Thanks 
again!




On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 11:54:47 PM UTC-4, Clayton Northrup wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
> tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
> specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
> with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
> within the context of the 'parent'.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Clayton
>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SetUp - a guide to set up a great TW system

[Mat]

Guys, just quickly; I have been, and will continue to be, busy for a few 
more days so difficult to work on this at the moment.

But, regarding TWC on SetUp - sure, why not, if I can get some help if it 
is much work with it. What I mean is; 

If it is merely a matter of adding TWC as one of the criteria (i.e the top 
row) then it'd be easy-peasy. That would mean you click a name like 
"TWC-compatible" and see which SetUps that fulfill this... and from those 
identified SetUp-rows see what other criteria the respective SetUp features.

The more ambitious solution would be to introduce TWC as a qualifying 
filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, Manager" and logically at that 
level, i.e so that every listed SetUp will have to fulfill TWC and whatever 
of "Saver, Server etc" that is ticked. This is not difficult to do but a 
little iffy. However, what I would need help with then is to have others 
bring in potential SetUps that are TWC specific and, again, the data for 
them.

Another thought:
I think the site would bring more value if it could add more info about 
individual setups. Obviously, not everything fits in the matrix and even if 
I've added some comments in the respective SetUp-tiddlers, there is often 
good stuff found in discussions on the boards. So, it would be useful to 
somehow collect data such that can be added. I'm considering accepting 
links to relevant discussions - or if someone other than me curates/refines 
info, then this could be added to the individual setups. (Oh, a project 
like this would be sooo spot-on for TWederation!!!)


Again, please note I can't engage much in this for a few days.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow application

[Mohammad]

@David

Hello David,
 There is one interesting slideshow application based on classic TW 2.6 I 
think at

http://tiddlyslidy.com


 Please also this to your list. It seems their developer were part of TW 
team at Osmosoft. I could not go into details but I think this is the most 
complete TW application for slide show
It supports shortcutkeys, note and theme.

I hope developer Paul Downey could take a look and possibly import it to 
TW5.


Cheers
Mohammad

 

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 8:21:57 PM UTC+4:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad
>
> I added tiddlyshow to the TiddlyWiki toolmap. Blessings!
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:20 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlyshow is a new application from Tiddlywiki. I call it an app or 
>> application not an edition not a plugin.
>> It is used for presentation and slideshow. It is objective is to be a 
>> simple yet powerful presenter based on html5 and wiki
>>
>> http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> [To start the slideshow click on the small button on top-left corner]
>>
>> This is based on the work of many developer and helpfull comments and 
>> answer to question in this forum.
>> Part of codes is borrowed from the great work by Mat, Birth, BTC, Tobias, 
>> Jed, Jeremy, Thomas, Tony, Eric, David,  ...
>> (Sorry if I forgot a name ...)
>>
>> I appreciate to have a look and let me your opinion, your comments. I 
>> will later upload this to Github in the hope
>> people find it useful and advanced users and developers from this forum 
>> contribute to improve it or fork and make better app.
>>
>>
>> I hope I can add the following features when I had enough time
>>  - themes (styles, colors, fonts)
>>  - effects
>>  - shortcut keys
>>  - export to pdf
>>
>> I try to have tiddlyshow as an app for final users.
>>
>> Note: In this application some codes or plugin has been directly or 
>> indirectly used! I tried to appreciate them. I did not see a licence policy 
>> for them.
>> By the way let me know if there is a violation!
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[Jed Carty]

Oh, yeah. It looks like that is a bug. I just looked at the code and after 
doing everything to use the name you give it just uses index.html anyway. I 
will fix it but I don't think that the single executable version is going 
to be updated until I get back to Paris.

For the getSettings macro I put in the wrong syntax for calling a macro. I 
put key="First##;Second" instead of key:"First##Second". You can just drop 
the key part and use this:

<>

that example should work in any wiki served by Bob because the host is 
always set, so if you run into a situation where it doesn't work let me 
know.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Jed Carty wrote:

> ... There is a tiddler called $:/WikiName that has the name of the current 
> wiki that is used by the back-end, so you can just transclude that instead 
> of defining it in the macro. 
>

Thanks for info on $:/WikiName. That I, with some help from Mark S., is 
working well in child Wiki.

And the buildHTMLWiki message can take outputFolder and outputName


Good tip. I think there is a bug in it. It creates wiki fine where you want 
them but it seems to ignore "outputName" example ...

\define sfTo() ..\..\..\..\pages\tw\tw_$(twName)$

<$set name=twName value={{$:/WikiName}}>

<$button>
  ''Make a <>'' single file 
  <$action-websocketmessage $type='buildHTMLWiki' outputFolder=<> 
outputName='PerryMason.html' />




 Result is file is still named "index.html" ...

Build Wiki
Built Wiki:  C:\bag\pages\tw\tw_katex\index.html

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[Mohammad]

Hi again BTC

If I use Zoomin storyview is this the correct code for defining shortcuts 
to navigate forward and backward through Tiddlers in story river


   - Goto next tiddler in story view with ctrl-N 

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
<$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">
<$action-navigate $to=<> />


 tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut

   - Goto previous tiddler in story view with ctrl-P

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
<$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">
<$action-navigate $to=<> />


tagged with:   $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut

I have required tiddlers for description


   - $:/config/ShortcutInfo/next-tiddler   text: Next tiddler in 
   story river
   - $:/config/ShortcutInfo/previous-tiddlertext: Previous tiddler in 
   story river
   

Best
Mohammad

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> Hi folks,
>
> for those who already want to use global keyboard shortcuts within their 
> wikies, I've made a plugin and a little plugin-info-page:
>
> http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> have fun with it,
> BTC
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[Jed Carty]

TiddlyTweeter,

I have plans to have an optional property of the message to build an html 
file that takes a filter of tiddlers to exclude from the final html file. I 
think that will cover 2.
I have a few separate things that will hopefully take care of 1, but your 
suggestion may be the most direct way.

I think that your suggestion is equivalent to using multiple editions to 
create a new wiki, which I think is supported in the core, I just don't 
have support for it when creating a wiki through Bob. I have some ideas on 
how to make an interface that would allow multiple editions to be selected 
without being too cluttered but I may not get around to implementing that 
for a while.

My other idea is adding an optional filter to the message attributes that 
lists tiddlers from existing wikis to be added to the new wiki created. 
This would make it consistent with the rest of how Bob works. I am not sure 
how it would handle naming conflicts which may be a problem.

Would any of that let you do what you want to do?

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao BTC

In your approach, which looks really interesting, is it possible to 
associate keystrokes combos with opening a single tiddler? Case: I often 
need to work with one or two configuration Tiddlers and its a lot of 
strokes to find them (they have "$:/" system names). What would the code 
needed be?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Good stuff.

Between you and David Gifford these developments are looking really good.

One thought I dared was about being able to export/import to OPML 
 (Outline Processor Markup Language). 
Its one of the least complex XML interchange formats. Designed by Dave 
(RadioUserLand) Wiener  
originally to support his innovative Outliner of the time, its been widely 
adopted to distribute collections of newsfeeds. But it has a more generic 
power than that.

David Gifford's TiddlyToolkit on Dynalist 
should support it as both 
an import and export format.

My thought is that the simplicity of OPML could serve TW well. Especially 
for Information Retrieval: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFlFIG22Y9E :-)

Just thoughts
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[Mohammad]

Thank you BTC.
To David, please add this plugin info into Tiddlymap.

Cheers
Mohammad

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> Hi folks,
>
> for those who already want to use global keyboard shortcuts within their 
> wikies, I've made a plugin and a little plugin-info-page:
>
> http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> have fun with it,
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[Mohammad]

Thank you BTC.
 I got the plugin working!

Best
Mohammad

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:19:27 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> By the way, I followed the pull request for adding sortcuts by you at 
>> Github/Tiddlywiki, and to me it seems they reacts slowly, may be they are 
>> very busy!
>> For short-term if I want to use this shortcuts in another wiki is it 
>> enough to import the $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.
>>
>
> Yes I think that is the case... there's also a restructuring process going 
> on - so reasons may be various.
> I've made a plugin of it in the meantime, because importing only 
> keyboard.js is not enough.
> The plugin: http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[David Gifford]

Glad I saw this here, I didn't see it when you came out with it. I added
KeeBoord to the TiddlyWiki toolmap, in its own category, "Writing and
editing - keyboard shortcuts"

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> By the way, I followed the pull request for adding sortcuts by you at
>> Github/Tiddlywiki, and to me it seems they reacts slowly, may be they are
>> very busy!
>> For short-term if I want to use this shortcuts in another wiki is it
>> enough to import the $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.
>>
>
> Yes I think that is the case... there's also a restructuring process going
> on - so reasons may be various.
> I've made a plugin of it in the meantime, because importing only
> keyboard.js is not enough.
> The plugin: http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[Mohammad]

Thank you BTC!
Great job!

I hope Jeremy take action on this a bit sooner!


On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:19:27 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> By the way, I followed the pull request for adding sortcuts by you at 
>> Github/Tiddlywiki, and to me it seems they reacts slowly, may be they are 
>> very busy!
>> For short-term if I want to use this shortcuts in another wiki is it 
>> enough to import the $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.
>>
>
> Yes I think that is the case... there's also a restructuring process going 
> on - so reasons may be various.
> I've made a plugin of it in the meantime, because importing only 
> keyboard.js is not enough.
> The plugin: http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[BurningTreeC]

>
> By the way, I followed the pull request for adding sortcuts by you at 
> Github/Tiddlywiki, and to me it seems they reacts slowly, may be they are 
> very busy!
> For short-term if I want to use this shortcuts in another wiki is it 
> enough to import the $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.
>

Yes I think that is the case... there's also a restructuring process going 
on - so reasons may be various.
I've made a plugin of it in the meantime, because importing only 
keyboard.js is not enough.
The plugin: http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/


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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[Mohammad]

By the way, I followed the pull request for adding sortcuts by you at 
Github/Tiddlywiki, and to me it seems they reacts slowly, may be they are 
very busy!
For short-term if I want to use this shortcuts in another wiki is it enough 
to import the $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.

Thank you again BTC for all your efforts.

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:56:31 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @Mohammad
>  
>
>> Still no success!
>>
>
> Ah then it can only be the navigator widget which isn't defined for the 
> keyboard shortcut action.
>
> Change your actions to this:
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
> 
> 
>
>  This is needed for the action-navigate widget and many other messages 
> like tm-new-tiddler, tm-navigate, tm-edit-tiddler ...
>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[Mohammad]

@BTC
Wonderful! Now It works like charm!

Thank you


On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 3:56:31 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @Mohammad
>  
>
>> Still no success!
>>
>
> Ah then it can only be the navigator widget which isn't defined for the 
> keyboard shortcut action.
>
> Change your actions to this:
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
> 
> 
>
>  This is needed for the action-navigate widget and many other messages 
> like tm-new-tiddler, tm-navigate, tm-edit-tiddler ...
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SetUp - a guide to set up a great TW system

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Yakov (Mat & Mark S.)

I see your points Yakov & Mark. It potentially introduces complications 
including support for TWc.

Mat's work on this all goes through him, but he listens (mainly :).

My point was simple. This is the most comprehensive survey of How To Run 
TiddlyWiki ever done. I suddenly found it odd it didn't include Classic in 
some way. Not just for "saving" but for using, for instance, TiddlyDesktop.

Perhaps it can have its own matrix in TWc world? But I am aware you are one 
person and Classic has a smaller number of people with time to do stuff 
like that.

Just thoughts
Josiah

Yakov wrote:
>
> I have to note that marking which of those support TWc is ambivalent if 
> other tools, that are for TWc only, are not listed, but if it's ok to add 
> those than I'd vote for it. Still, this can be confusing: like if 
> "encryption" is marked green it won't mean it is supported for TWc without 
> a separate plugin; and with a separate plugin, the support may be different 
> from that for TW5.
>

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[tw5] KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

Hi folks,

for those who already want to use global keyboard shortcuts within their 
wikies, I've made a plugin and a little plugin-info-page:

http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/

have fun with it,
BTC

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[BurningTreeC]

@Mohammad
 

> Still no success!
>

Ah then it can only be the navigator widget which isn't defined for the 
keyboard shortcut action.

Change your actions to this:

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
<$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
<$action-navigate $to=<> />



 This is needed for the action-navigate widget and many other messages like 
tm-new-tiddler, tm-navigate, tm-edit-tiddler ...

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[Mohammad]

Still no success!

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 12:04:41 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @BTC
>> For shortcut based on your description I learned I have to define three 
>> tiddlers. For example if I want to have a shortcut for oppening all 
>> tiddlers tagged with learning I need the follwoing tiddlers
>>
>>
>>1. $:/config/ShortcutInfo/open-myTag(text: Open my tiddlers 
>>tagged with learning)
>>2. $:/config/shortcuts/open-myTag (text: alt-V)
>>3. $:/KeyboardShortcut/open-myTag (tag: $:/KeyboardShortcut,  
>> key: ((open-myTag)) )
>>
>>
> Yes that's right. You wouldn't need the 2nd tiddler because it gets 
> created when you set the shortcut in the ControlPanel 
>
>>
>>1. 
>>
>> and the text of $:/KeyboardShortcut/open-myTag 
>> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
>> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
>> 
>>
>> I save the wiki and reload it! Then press alt+V nothing happened. What is 
>> the problem ?
>>
>
> I forgot mentioning that you need the tag "$:/tags/KeyboardShortcut" on 
> the tiddler with the action and the "key" field
> Then it works without reloading 
>
>>
>>
>> /Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Titles vs unique IDs

[Reto]

Nothing fancy here (I am not much of a JS programmer):

   function generateUniqueId(uniqueId) {
  /* Returns a unique number based on date and time */
  /* If the passed value is 0 then the function generates a new unique id */
  /* If the passed value is not 0 then the function checks if the value ist 
unique */
  // var uniqueId = 0;
  var notUnique= 0;
  /* Generate the unique number */
  if(uniqueId == 0) {
 uniqueId = new 
Date().formatString(config.options.extendedBrainFormatUniqueId);
  }
  /* check if not already in use */
  do {
 if(checkUniqueId(uniqueId)) {
uniqueId = parseInt(uniqueId) + 1;
notUnique = 1;
 } else {
//alert(uniqueId + " is unique");
notUnique = 0;
 }
  } while(notUnique);
  return uniqueId;
   };


config.options.extendedBrainFormatUniqueId = "0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss";



Am Samstag, 2. Juni 2018 11:26:56 UTC+2 schrieb TonyM:
>
> Reto,
>
> Are you able to share the method you use to increment the date time. I 
> belive milliseconds MMM can now be added to date time stamps.
>
> Of course I will share back my solution that you may be able to use some 
> features.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Migration from TWC to TW5

[Reto]

Hi Tony

Thanks for sharing.

I also did not have in mind some kind of migration but my idea was to be 
able to import my TWC tiddlers into TW5 and then the tiddlers would use TW5 
syntax and code. Of course it would be a manual process to implent the new 
syntax and code. But in this way I woukdn't break the features within each 
tiddler. And I could maintain further development of my TWC tiddlers.

I also had the impression that most of the plugins and custom code I wrote 
wouldn't be necessary anymore in TW5.

Maybe there is a way to add TW5 content which is ignored by TWC and have 
TWC content which is ignored in TW5?

Cheers
Reto

Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2018 09:14:48 UTC+2 schrieb TonyM:
>
> Reto,
>
> I know where you are coming from because I have a large TWC myself, but 
> basically I am developing new TW5 solutions and retaining my TWC as an 
> archive. I may export TWC content (rather than actual code etc...)  but 
> there is more to be gained from using TW5 uncomplicated by a conversion. It 
> is a learning curve I have no doubt, but it is even easier to do what we 
> used to in TWC than ever. 
>
> Personally I am building the solutions I had in TWC in TW5 at a logical 
> practical level rather than migrations. I am also finding ways for TW5 
> wikis to interact so now I can divide my work amongst multiple wikis. 
>
> Unfortunately scripts do not work as they did in TWC with the Plugin, but 
> fortunately most of what scripts were used for in TWC no longer need 
> scripts in TW5
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
> On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 4:11:34 PM UTC+10, Reto wrote:
>>
>> I am using TWC since 10 years and it is heavily customized and contains a 
>> lot of tiddlers (> 12'000 in total, about 140 with some kind of functions). 
>> Nevertheless my aim is to migrate to TW5. One problem is to identify parts 
>> which needs to be rewritten.
>>
>> I wonder if there is a way how I could make a tiddler evaluate in which 
>> version of tiddly wiki it runs. Of course this mechanism should work in TWC 
>> as well as TW5. In this way I could just import my TWC into TW5 and check 
>> for each of my function tiddler what exactly is needed to make it run in 
>> TW5.
>>
>> My question: is there a way how the InlineJavascript syntax 
>> ... of TWC could be made working in TW5? Any other ideas 
>> how to achive this?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

So far I haven't been able to get that to "getSettings" to work. I think I 
need an illustrated example to "twig" it.

Jed Carty wrote:
>
> You can put anything you want into the Bob settings and they will be the 
> same in every wiki, and the getSettings macro can be used to access them. I 
> haven't done a lot of testing with this in child wikis so there may be 
> bugs. 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob/blob/master/Documentation/Macros/getSettingMacro.tid
>

Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Further to my last. I did NOT mean you write those Tiddlers, I mean I have 
written them already, custom to my use case. I meant whether on creation of 
a Wiki one could have transfer in of a few extra Tiddlers that are kept in 
a dedicated directory? Something like that.

On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:46:39 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> ... I am trying to find the best way to share tiddlers between wikis. I 
>> will probably set it up so you can set a filter that gives the tiddlers 
>> that will be shared with all the wikis.
>>
>
> Ciao Jed, I have a Use Case that might be relevant.
>
> For every wiki created by Bob main wiki I would like a few additional 
> Tiddlers included automatically if possible ..
>
>1 - A Tiddler that contains standard automated tasks (via several 
> buttons) every Wiki may need to perform. It draws on the scripts and uses 
> relative pathing.
>
>2 - A Tiddler that contains code that is useful for tidyng-up once you 
> created a Single File version to delete Tiddlers no longer relevant that 
> pertain to automation that is not possible in in the Single File version.
>
>  ... those are two examples ... you get the idea? To use the brilliant 
> automation to make management easier.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Jed Carty wrote:
>
> ... I am trying to find the best way to share tiddlers between wikis. I 
> will probably set it up so you can set a filter that gives the tiddlers 
> that will be shared with all the wikis.
>

Ciao Jed, I have a Use Case that might be relevant.

For every wiki created by Bob main wiki I would like a few additional 
Tiddlers included automatically if possible ..

   1 - A Tiddler that contains standard automated tasks (via several 
buttons) every Wiki may need to perform. It draws on the scripts and uses 
relative pathing.

   2 - A Tiddler that contains code that is useful for tidyng-up once you 
created a Single File version to delete Tiddlers no longer relevant that 
pertain to automation that is not possible in in the Single File version.

 ... those are two examples ... you get the idea? To use the brilliant 
automation to make management easier.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao BTC

Very useful to see. Thanks!

I do see a more complex situation where I could need that and not just 
"set".

Best wishes, J

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> \define get-wiki-path()
> C:\\bag\\PortableApps\\twMU\\pages\\tw\\tw_$(wikiName)$\\index.html
> \end
> \define actions()
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="ma-tiddla" $index="path" 
> $value="""$(wikiPath)$"""/>
> \end
>
> <$vars wikiName={{tiddlerwithwikiname}}>
> <$vars wikiPath=<>>
> <$button>
> <>
> set
> 
> 
> 
>
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[tw5] Re: Basic Problem -- How to get Tiddler text into a variable (NOT a transclusion)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

That is good. 

I delayed replying till I tested it with the buttons of automate (some 
quite complex) properly.

It works well without adding too much code.

Thankyou! J.

Mark S. wrote:
>
> So does
>
>
> Not work?
> \define sfTo() ..\..\pages\tw\tw_$(twName)$\
>
>
> <$set name=twName value={{$:/PerryMason}}> 
> <$button>
>   Make a ''<>'' single file
>   <$action-websocketmessage $type='buildHTMLWiki' outputFolder=<> 
> outputName="index.html" />
> 
> 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

"It's a life changer."
-- @yaronhadad 

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[tw5] Re: How to reference the parent (containing) tiddler?

[TonyM]

FYI a somewhat related post.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/xomkZjP_hlQ

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 11:36:12 AM UTC+10, Luca Dorigo wrote:
>
> For now I have something like
>
> <>
>
> This usually kind-of-works, but it actually displays a toc for the *current 
> *tiddler, not the tiddler in which the snippet is contained.
>
> How can I change that?
>

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[TonyM]

Edited in forum to include attachment this time

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 6:05:52 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Sorry, 
>
> With attachement
>
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 6:05:09 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> I did any way,
>>
>> Drag the attached file into your wiki, you can select if this button 
>> appears in the view Template, and you could hide the regular one.
>>
>> I am not sure how to make it appear bigger, any one know?
>>
>> Then if you use this button it will add the parent title to the parent 
>> field as well as tagging it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:31:43 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Marios https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/
>>>
>>> Table of Contents with a parent field is one way to do this.
>>>
>>> How did it become a child to begin with?
>>>
>>> If you created the button to do this like the new here button you could 
>>> ensure tiddlers created that way add the parent to the child tiddler at 
>>> creation time.
>>>
>>> I may create such a button if your are interested.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:54:47 PM UTC+10, Clayton Northrup wrote:

 Hi!

 I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
 tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
 specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
 with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
 within the context of the 'parent'.

 Thoughts?

 Thanks in advance!
 Clayton



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new-here-with-parent.bundle.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[TonyM]

Sorry, 

With attachement

Tony

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 6:05:09 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> I did any way,
>
> Drag the attached file into your wiki, you can select if this button 
> appears in the view Template, and you could hide the regular one.
>
> I am not sure how to make it appear bigger, any one know?
>
> Then if you use this button it will add the parent title to the parent 
> field as well as tagging it.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:31:43 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Marios https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/
>>
>> Table of Contents with a parent field is one way to do this.
>>
>> How did it become a child to begin with?
>>
>> If you created the button to do this like the new here button you could 
>> ensure tiddlers created that way add the parent to the child tiddler at 
>> creation time.
>>
>> I may create such a button if your are interested.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:54:47 PM UTC+10, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
>>> tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
>>> specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
>>> with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
>>> within the context of the 'parent'.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Clayton
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[TonyM]

I did any way,

Drag the attached file into your wiki, you can select if this button 
appears in the view Template, and you could hide the regular one.

I am not sure how to make it appear bigger, any one know?

Then if you use this button it will add the parent title to the parent 
field as well as tagging it.

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 5:31:43 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Marios https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/
>
> Table of Contents with a parent field is one way to do this.
>
> How did it become a child to begin with?
>
> If you created the button to do this like the new here button you could 
> ensure tiddlers created that way add the parent to the child tiddler at 
> creation time.
>
> I may create such a button if your are interested.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:54:47 PM UTC+10, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
>> tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
>> specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
>> with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
>> within the context of the 'parent'.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Clayton
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[BurningTreeC]

>
> BTC,
>
> Just a little constructive feedback.
>
> I would love a method of creating siblings without selecting the parent. 
> In fact I would personally value  creating siblings rather than 
> children with a right arrow creating children. Enter for siblings is in 
> fact more intuitive because enter in a text editor is new line, in a spread 
> sheet next line (cell).
>

Yes, sounds good. I didn't think about it. In the end all shortcuts will be 
configurable in the ControlPanel - most already are. The one for siblings 
isn't existent right now, I'll add that. 

>
> I wonder it we could selectively display and hide an info panel of the 
> keyboard shortcuts on the outline view?
>

Yes, that's something I already wanted to do. I'd like to make the bottom 
right popup more useful with a cheatsheet, outline-saving and loading 
options and whatever good idea comes up

>
> I am not sure if I will go to the effort to publish the viewer I am 
> developing since it is quite complex although I expect to publish related 
> technology, and the design principals I have "discovered".
> These include
>
>- Custom Toolbars
>- The viewer tiddler model (below)
>- Custom view Template(s)
>
> But the main design principal is using an outliner that displays the 
> tiddler in a view to the right of the selected tiddler (Like TWOutlier) 
> allows the designer to introduce their own headers, footers,  almost as if 
> they were using another TiddlyWiki altogether but all in a single tiddler 
> (wrapper), such that closing the viewer one finds themself back in the core 
> tiddlywiki with the standard (or modified) view/edit templates and 
> toolbars. In some ways I could see solutions being distributed this way 
> rather than taking over the whole wiki with customisations, all the 
> customisations take place within the "custom View Tiddler". If these custom 
> views are designed correctly, a bit like your 
> http://outlineproto.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
>  Then we can look at the wikis data via more than one "curated" or 
> functional view (perspective). Pick the view that suits the current 
> workflow or application with confidence you will not "damage" any other  
> workflow or application.
>

Would be interesting to see! 

>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> Goodwork
> Thanks
> Tony
>
> Thanks Tony,

BTC 

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[BurningTreeC]

>
> @BTC
> For shortcut based on your description I learned I have to define three 
> tiddlers. For example if I want to have a shortcut for oppening all 
> tiddlers tagged with learning I need the follwoing tiddlers
>
>
>1. $:/config/ShortcutInfo/open-myTag(text: Open my tiddlers tagged 
>with learning)
>2. $:/config/shortcuts/open-myTag (text: alt-V)
>3. $:/KeyboardShortcut/open-myTag (tag: $:/KeyboardShortcut,  
> key: ((open-myTag)) )
>
>
Yes that's right. You wouldn't need the 2nd tiddler because it gets created 
when you set the shortcut in the ControlPanel 

>
>1. 
>
> and the text of $:/KeyboardShortcut/open-myTag 
> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
> <$action-navigate $to=<> />
> 
>
> I save the wiki and reload it! Then press alt+V nothing happened. What is 
> the problem ?
>

I forgot mentioning that you need the tag "$:/tags/KeyboardShortcut" on the 
tiddler with the action and the "key" field
Then it works without reloading 

>
>
> /Mohammad
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Link to a 'child' within the context of it's 'parent'

[TonyM]

Marios https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/

Table of Contents with a parent field is one way to do this.

How did it become a child to begin with?

If you created the button to do this like the new here button you could 
ensure tiddlers created that way add the parent to the child tiddler at 
creation time.

I may create such a button if your are interested.

Tony



On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 1:54:47 PM UTC+10, Clayton Northrup wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a 'parent' tiddler (A) which contains a two panel TOC of 'child' 
> tiddlers [1,2,3].  I want to link to this 'parent' tiddler (A) with a 
> specific 'child' [2] selected.  I can link to the [[parent]] or [[child]] 
> with no problem but I can't figure out how to create a link to the 'child' 
> within the context of the 'parent'.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Clayton
>
>

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[tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

[Mohammad]

@BTC
For shortcut based on your description I learned I have to define three 
tiddlers. For example if I want to have a shortcut for oppening all 
tiddlers tagged with learning I need the follwoing tiddlers


   1. $:/config/ShortcutInfo/open-myTag(text: Open my tiddlers tagged 
   with)
   2. $:/config/shortcuts/open-myTag (text: alt-V)
   3. $:/KeyboardShortcut/open-myTag (tag: $:/KeyboardShortcut,   key: 
   ((open-myTag)) )
   
and the text of $:/KeyboardShortcut/open-myTag 
<$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
<$action-navigate $to=<> />


I save the wiki and reload it! Then press alt+V nothing happened. What is 
the problem ?


/Mohammad







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