[tw5] Re: Can I use a picture to represent an ascii character?

[TonyM]

Sounds great,

Just ask here in the forums if you need further help

The image to text part would be the hardest, I would search for prior 
attempts if I were you. Google has some image recognition AI available in 
the cloud, but perhaps the moving image is too much for it. Not impossible 
with today's tech just challenging.

But if I could type some text and have it translated to sign, it would be a 
good way to learn

Regards
Tony


On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 4:53:52 PM UTC+11, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>
> Wow, Tony M
>
> Fantastic reference, thanks!
>
> I am hoping to build a sign language interpreter (ironic, I know)
>
> Sign language is "native language" non-specific - and it would be nice if 
> TW5 could be used to teach it to a non-signer
>
> Moving from there I am exploring whether it can also be used to "read" 
> sign language with a camera
>
> I am focused on a simple English alphabet to start
>
> Eventually, with a natural language semantic ontology, open the above to 
> concepts expressed in sign
>
> Imagine having the functionality of text-to-speech and speech-to-text 
> using sign language instead of speech (and no audio)
>

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[tw5] Re: Can I use a picture to represent an ascii character?

[JWHoneycutt]

Wow, Tony M

Fantastic reference, thanks!

I am hoping to build a sign language interpreter (ironic, I know)

Sign language is "native language" non-specific - and it would be nice if 
TW5 could be used to teach it to a non-signer

Moving from there I am exploring whether it can also be used to "read" sign 
language with a camera

I am focused on a simple English alphabet to start

Eventually, with a natural language semantic ontology, open the above to 
concepts expressed in sign

Imagine having the functionality of text-to-speech and speech-to-text using 
sign language instead of speech (and no audio)

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[tw5] Re: Reveal Gradually Macros: Next Revision

[TonyM]

Marvellous Mohammad

Some constructive advice,

You often say in your documentation something like
Change the order of tiddlers

Here using the list filed of Master tiddler the order of tiddlers to be 
displayed


Eg at http://revealgradually.tiddlyspot.com/#Example%2003


What I suggest instead is do this


Change the order of tiddlers
Use the tag Pill for any tag to open or change the order if its items with 
drag and drop
eg {{Master||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}


Also unfortunately you have a persistent spelling mistake where ever you go 
I think you are aware of. You have all the letters but put them in the 
wrong order.

filed - Means Status of a properly stored document or record 
 Past tense of 
"file"
field - specialised computing *a division of a database (= a collection of 
similar information on a computer) that contains a particular type of 
information, such as names or numbers*
*- + an Area of land*

*If you need a mnemonic to help you remember think of a field of corn, with 
fences to keep the Cows Out - Notice how in *
*field*

Status of a properly stored document or record.

Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/filed.html
the F is one fence around the "ie" and ld are tall letters together 
providing a fence on the other side.

Where filed as has a fence running down the middle as well, that is a wast 
of fence, so it not a field
*filed*
filed also begins with file - its a file not a field.



PS Don't be Shy, I suffer my own persistent errors too.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:37:09 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> A new release announced!
> The main post edited, Look at: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/e_7jENIg4aY/CkbBwT8qBQAJ
>
> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

That looks beautiful, you really know how to create easy to read stylish 
tiddlywikis. My Compliments.

I am working on one for new users myself, perhaps it makes sense to 
integrate yours, however mine is only a work in progress and could do with 
some of your style.

At this point it is an Edition but I can see creating a plugin for my 
content as well. One key difference it it is a download of tiddlywiki.com 
5.1.17 so contains all the documentation within it.

I have installed the plugin along with favourites (is this a dependency?) 
in my new user wiki, Which I will publish shortly.

If there were one criticism It would be having all the tiddlers names as 
System Tiddlers.

Thanks tony


 

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:26:00 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement a new plugin *
> *(8th Nov, 2018)*
>
> *Shiraz plugin   * 
>
> To download have a look at:
>  
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/Shiraz
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/
>
> Shiraz
>
> Shiraz is a small TW5 plugin contains several macros, stylesheets, 
> templates, snippets and acts as a starter kit. Some of its features are 
> given below
>
>- Macro
>   - abbreviation (abbr) and details macro
>   - alert boxes (bootstrap alert classes)
>   - classic notes (danger, warning, info)
>   - gradient (for dividing section in text)
>   - footnote (creates footnotes)
>   - tc, bc (text with foreground and background colors)
>   - documentation macro to show code, rendered result, and underlying 
>   html code)
>- Reveal gradually ( walkthrough , guided help, linked list)
>   - Steps
>   - Wizard
>- Customized css
>   - notes
>   - float class for images
>   - Resolved floating images (overflow and cross tiddler borders)
>   - Customized control buttons (shown as mouse hover)
>- ToDo
>   - A todo list (ToDos) is set of macro and template to create tasks, 
>   list them and manipulate them!
>- Customized table classes
>   - Colored header
>   - Striped row table
>   - Striped column table
>   - Borderless table
>   - Hoverable table
>- Others
>   - Show fields in view mode (From Ton Gerner)
>   - Notebook tiddler
>   - Standout markup
>   - Sticky footer
>   - Utility macros (.lorem, vspace, hspace,...)
>
>
> -
> This is also in response to recent post on having kind of starter kit for 
> newbies.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Can I use a picture to represent an ascii character?

[TonyM]

Post Script, With a little effort, you could create your own font using 
your own designs.

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 1:19:06 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> JW
>
> I think there may be a way to deliver images via css rather than 
> transclusions, that would be more transferable. Lets see what people have 
> to say.
>
> However can you explain why you are reverting to images? The reason I ask 
> is with so many font opportunities out there there are even sign language 
> fonts one example 
>
> If you keep it as a font, people can type it, you can spell check etc.. 
> but also use other non alphabetical signs
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 10:45:46 AM UTC+11, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>>
>> I am creating a sign language wiki and recommendations are welcome
>>
>> Starting with the alphabet, I created images for letters, such as `A`
>>
>> The image is stored as `A.jpg` in an adjacent subdirectory
>>
>> The letter `A` is invoked by transcluding a tiddler titled `A` which 
>> contains the text `[img[./Sign_language/A.jpg]]`
>>
>> {{A}} - this I have done so far...
>>
>> Then I want to use these letters as a font, allowing them to replace 
>> ASCII characters, possibly using the syntax `<<.sign "THIS">>`
>>
>> The macro would take each letter in turn and render the picture of the 
>> letter - a font "Sign"
>>
>> Any ideas how to accomplish this?
>>
>> JWHoneycutt
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Can I use a picture to represent an ascii character?

[TonyM]

JW

I think there may be a way to deliver images via css rather than 
transclusions, that would be more transferable. Lets see what people have 
to say.

However can you explain why you are reverting to images? The reason I ask 
is with so many font opportunities out there there are even sign language 
fonts one example 

If you keep it as a font, people can type it, you can spell check etc.. but 
also use other non alphabetical signs

Regards
Tony


On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 10:45:46 AM UTC+11, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
> I am creating a sign language wiki and recommendations are welcome
>
> Starting with the alphabet, I created images for letters, such as `A`
>
> The image is stored as `A.jpg` in an adjacent subdirectory
>
> The letter `A` is invoked by transcluding a tiddler titled `A` which 
> contains the text `[img[./Sign_language/A.jpg]]`
>
> {{A}} - this I have done so far...
>
> Then I want to use these letters as a font, allowing them to replace ASCII 
> characters, possibly using the syntax `<<.sign "THIS">>`
>
> The macro would take each letter in turn and render the picture of the 
> letter - a font "Sign"
>
> Any ideas how to accomplish this?
>
> JWHoneycutt
>

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[tw5] Re: How to force auto-save on tiddler

[TonyM]

I used Drop Box for this purpose for years with TWClassic. 

I found being sure the sync took place in Dropbox before I shut down any 
computer, left work to go home was not only critical and you may find it 
not updated when you get to the other location, even if your wiki was not 
saved. So I always saved the wiki, closed the browser, checked DropBox  and 
ideally shut down the computer (laptop) and turned it (and monitor) off at 
the wall. (very important on Fridays). Actually I used my own Eco Switch 
 to "turn it off at the wall"

Doing a shut down when ever possible does allow a fresh operating system, 
browser and tiddlywiki load, but you would be surprised at the kilowatts, 
and related "carbon" emissions that result from computers left on, and the 
power used by a laptop power pack even without a computer connected.

The load time was a real hassle, I know, But I replaced the HDD in both 
home and work PC with SSD (Which I Took when I left) and now startup is 
sub-minute.

However I do not use DropBox any more and I am grateful as too many times I 
was standing looking at my computer waiting for it to finish syncing.

Regards
Tony


On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 5:42:13 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> For recovering your data, don't forget that TiddlyDesktop has a backup (I 
> would point the backup to the local drive on each system rather than to a 
> shared dropbox site).
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 9:09:33 AM UTC-8, Robert Freiberger wrote:
>>
>> Hello, 
>>
>> I have my Tiddlywiki shared between my work Mac and personal PC using a 
>> Dropbox folder with the Tiddlydesktop client. While I'm pretty careful, 
>> there have been times I left one client open with a Tiddler I'm in the 
>> middle of editing, only to update the Tiddlywiki on the other client, 
>> causing some data loss. 
>>
>> Is there a way to force a Tiddler to save given a set timeout of no 
>> changes or edits? Not sure if this is possible or is there a better way to 
>> manage a shared Tiddlywiki?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>> -- 
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>> 510-936-1210
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

[TonyM]

Quaraman,

I would rarely upload content, just type it into a tiddlywiki.

On one hand
I really can not see any way for such regulations to apply to my personal 
IP that no one can access (without hacking) has no information/copywrite 
material about anyone else that is not publicly available.

On the other hand
As a Website host there is a responsibility for me as a good global citizen 
to take what ever steps are required to insure my internet hosted services 
to not provide a method by which DOS (Denial of service attacks)  and other 
illegal (for the most) activities can be executed. 

If I open my tiddlywiki to php (update) but open my tiddlywiki to no one 
but me, how could I possibly be made to comply? 

These are serious issues when publishing on the internet, and we must take 
these into account for published material and storing private information. 
I am running an online shop, I need to comply and personally I am all for 
rules and regulations that set a minimum reasonable standard, why do I like 
such regulations when I also believe in freedom to choose?, because these 
regulations stop a race to the bottom which often occurs in competitive 
situations, placing a floor on which few venture below, and it is clear 
when they do. With a floor set we can all get about our business competing 
in other ways, its a level playing field that maintains the confidence of 
users in using online resources, and when "online resources" is what you 
do, confidence of your clients is essential.

Despite my position above the new regulations are really a list of common 
sense actions you should take when storing your own or other peoples data 
online.

Regards
tony 
 

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 5:21:45 AM UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> first: the draft of this copyright proposal speaks about websites that 
> offer user content upload.
>
> And you are a user of your own site!
>
> So you need an upload filter to monitor your own behavior! 
>
> But they can be exceptions for some sites/companies...
>
> At this time nobody can exactly answer you this! Because first it need to 
> be made as law and then it need to be made as active law in the national 
> states.
>
> After that - I read somewhere in the middle of 2019 - this can be answered 
> by a lawyer.
>
> kind regards
> quaraman
>
> Am Do., 8. Nov. 2018, 16:10 hat TonyM > 
> geschrieben:
>
>> Quaraman,
>>
>> Lets see if I can remove the riddle.
>>
>> If I build a website for me, online but behind a passphrase and on PHP 
>> and store personal information and media on it, the only user is me, I will 
>> not be taking me to task, and if my partner or trusted colleague also has 
>> access I would not be too worried. Once I have developed a good solution I 
>> may translate this into a secure website, build the code into a WordPress 
>> site. I understand the obligations and privacy issues but their are plenty 
>> of applications and cases where such simply do not exist. Personally I 
>> produce a lot of my own, original content that I produce myself for 
>> consumption only by me, it does not include copy write material, or 
>> collecting information from people but may hold a repository of Open source 
>> material for me.
>>
>> PHP services are now available from cloud providers so I can scale and 
>> prototype to my content.
>>
>> I understand where you are coming from but are surprised you cant imagine 
>> a genuine use for this that does not present unacceptable security risks. 
>> By the way, I appreciate you reminding me of these issues, but I am not so 
>> concerned at this time with these, even considering to only place anything 
>> online I cant loose.
>>
>> To be honest amongst my many roles in IT I also have a background in 
>> Security which I maintain an interest in.
>>
>> One example is a NoteSelf TiddlyWiki of my own from which I can export 
>> changes as a form of backup, or generate json files that exist in another 
>> folder with different security rights. I may even host a php server on 
>> local host.
>>
>> I hope that explains
>>
>> Now, I wonder if it is easy to get traditional html/php post to work 
>> within tiddlywiki. My original Question
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 12:35:33 AM UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> without prooving against user failure it is very easy. But that is risky 
>>> as explained before. 
>>>
>>> from tiddlywiki perspective it could be a html form that you present 
>>> with a submit button that trigger the php script.
>>>
>>> the php script then read the data it gets.
>>>
>>> That this function the tiddlywiki and the php script need to be served 
>>> from the same domain.
>>>
>>> But from your description it is a riddle for me how that you want.
>>>
>>> and when for example you are in the eu and the new eu copyright reform 
>>> is active this is illegal to use without a proove against copyright cases!
>>>
>>> kind regards
>>> quaraman
>>>

[tw5] Can I use a picture to represent an ascii character?

[JWHoneycutt]

I am creating a sign language wiki and recommendations are welcome

Starting with the alphabet, I created images for letters, such as `A`

The image is stored as `A.jpg` in an adjacent subdirectory

The letter `A` is invoked by transcluding a tiddler titled `A` which 
contains the text `[img[./Sign_language/A.jpg]]`

{{A}} - this I have done so far...

Then I want to use these letters as a font, allowing them to replace ASCII 
characters, possibly using the syntax `<<.sign "THIS">>`

The macro would take each letter in turn and render the picture of the 
letter - a font "Sign"

Any ideas how to accomplish this?

JWHoneycutt

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[David Gifford]

This is nothing short of amazing. How long have you been at work on this?

I hope to go through it and add the various bits from it to the toolmap 
separately, i.e, tables in the table section, etc. Will try to do it this 
weekend.

Great job!

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement a new plugin *
> *(8th Nov, 2018)*
>
> *Shiraz plugin   * 
>
> To download have a look at:
>  
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/Shiraz
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/
>
> Shiraz
>
> Shiraz is a small TW5 plugin contains several macros, stylesheets, 
> templates, snippets and acts as a starter kit. Some of its features are 
> given below
>
>- Macro
>   - abbreviation (abbr) and details macro
>   - alert boxes (bootstrap alert classes)
>   - classic notes (danger, warning, info)
>   - gradient (for dividing section in text)
>   - footnote (creates footnotes)
>   - tc, bc (text with foreground and background colors)
>   - documentation macro to show code, rendered result, and underlying 
>   html code)
>- Reveal gradually ( walkthrough , guided help, linked list)
>   - Steps
>   - Wizard
>- Customized css
>   - notes
>   - float class for images
>   - Resolved floating images (overflow and cross tiddler borders)
>   - Customized control buttons (shown as mouse hover)
>- ToDo
>   - A todo list (ToDos) is set of macro and template to create tasks, 
>   list them and manipulate them!
>- Customized table classes
>   - Colored header
>   - Striped row table
>   - Striped column table
>   - Borderless table
>   - Hoverable table
>- Others
>   - Show fields in view mode (From Ton Gerner)
>   - Notebook tiddler
>   - Standout markup
>   - Sticky footer
>   - Utility macros (.lorem, vspace, hspace,...)
>
>
> -
> This is also in response to recent post on having kind of starter kit for 
> newbies.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>

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[tw5] I wish ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

... that TW were like the builders in Harry & Paul ... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1UHwZS3FE8

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[tw5] Re: Reveal Gradually Macros: Next Revision

[Mohammad]

A new release announced!
The main post edited, Look 
at: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/e_7jENIg4aY/CkbBwT8qBQAJ

Mohammad

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[tw5] Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

*Announcement a new plugin *
*(8th Nov, 2018)*

*Shiraz plugin   * 

To download have a look at:
 
https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/

Shiraz

Shiraz is a small TW5 plugin contains several macros, stylesheets, 
templates, snippets and acts as a starter kit. Some of its features are 
given below

   - Macro
  - abbreviation (abbr) and details macro
  - alert boxes (bootstrap alert classes)
  - classic notes (danger, warning, info)
  - gradient (for dividing section in text)
  - footnote (creates footnotes)
  - tc, bc (text with foreground and background colors)
  - documentation macro to show code, rendered result, and underlying 
  html code)
   - Reveal gradually ( walkthrough , guided help, linked list)
  - Steps
  - Wizard
   - Customized css
  - notes
  - float class for images
  - Resolved floating images (overflow and cross tiddler borders)
  - Customized control buttons (shown as mouse hover)
   - ToDo
  - A todo list (ToDos 
  
)
 
  is set of macro and template to create tasks, list them and manipulate 
them!
   - Customized table classes
  - Colored header
  - Striped row table
  - Striped column table
  - Borderless table
  - Hoverable table
   - Others
  - Show fields in view mode (From Ton Gerner)
  - Notebook tiddler
  - Standout markup
  - Sticky footer
  - Utility macros (.lorem, vspace, hspace,...)
   

-
This is also in response to recent post on having kind of starter kit for 
newbies.


Cheers
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Re: [tw5] Re: Animation effects: On Opening Tiddlers

[Alex Hough]

I wonder why the animation sends the tiddler off to the left when the side
bar is on the right.
the closed tiddler "goes into recent". If the tiddler could go right and
the recent tab flash to show where it is going I would be over the moon


Alex

On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 16:54, Mohammad  wrote:

> Hello Riz,
>  Thank you for the info! It is really great and I can find many effects
> there!
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: How to force auto-save on tiddler

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

For recovering your data, don't forget that TiddlyDesktop has a backup (I 
would point the backup to the local drive on each system rather than to a 
shared dropbox site).

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On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 9:09:33 AM UTC-8, Robert Freiberger wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> I have my Tiddlywiki shared between my work Mac and personal PC using a 
> Dropbox folder with the Tiddlydesktop client. While I'm pretty careful, 
> there have been times I left one client open with a Tiddler I'm in the 
> middle of editing, only to update the Tiddlywiki on the other client, 
> causing some data loss. 
>
> Is there a way to force a Tiddler to save given a set timeout of no 
> changes or edits? Not sure if this is possible or is there a better way to 
> manage a shared Tiddlywiki?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
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[tw5] Re: How to force auto-save on tiddler

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Robert, 

For my personal Wikis in the browser I developed the plugin Editor Counter 
available on https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html – it can trigger a wikisave 
after a given amount of text entered/removed. 

You will have to configute this on the plugin’s settings tab.
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FEditorCounter

(I never tried in Tiddlydesktop though.)

All the best,
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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

[Sven Wetzel]

Tony,

first: the draft of this copyright proposal speaks about websites that
offer user content upload.

And you are a user of your own site!

So you need an upload filter to monitor your own behavior!

But they can be exceptions for some sites/companies...

At this time nobody can exactly answer you this! Because first it need to
be made as law and then it need to be made as active law in the national
states.

After that - I read somewhere in the middle of 2019 - this can be answered
by a lawyer.

kind regards
quaraman

Am Do., 8. Nov. 2018, 16:10 hat TonyM 
geschrieben:

> Quaraman,
>
> Lets see if I can remove the riddle.
>
> If I build a website for me, online but behind a passphrase and on PHP and
> store personal information and media on it, the only user is me, I will not
> be taking me to task, and if my partner or trusted colleague also has
> access I would not be too worried. Once I have developed a good solution I
> may translate this into a secure website, build the code into a WordPress
> site. I understand the obligations and privacy issues but their are plenty
> of applications and cases where such simply do not exist. Personally I
> produce a lot of my own, original content that I produce myself for
> consumption only by me, it does not include copy write material, or
> collecting information from people but may hold a repository of Open source
> material for me.
>
> PHP services are now available from cloud providers so I can scale and
> prototype to my content.
>
> I understand where you are coming from but are surprised you cant imagine
> a genuine use for this that does not present unacceptable security risks.
> By the way, I appreciate you reminding me of these issues, but I am not so
> concerned at this time with these, even considering to only place anything
> online I cant loose.
>
> To be honest amongst my many roles in IT I also have a background in
> Security which I maintain an interest in.
>
> One example is a NoteSelf TiddlyWiki of my own from which I can export
> changes as a form of backup, or generate json files that exist in another
> folder with different security rights. I may even host a php server on
> local host.
>
> I hope that explains
>
> Now, I wonder if it is easy to get traditional html/php post to work
> within tiddlywiki. My original Question
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 12:35:33 AM UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> without prooving against user failure it is very easy. But that is risky
>> as explained before.
>>
>> from tiddlywiki perspective it could be a html form that you present with
>> a submit button that trigger the php script.
>>
>> the php script then read the data it gets.
>>
>> That this function the tiddlywiki and the php script need to be served
>> from the same domain.
>>
>> But from your description it is a riddle for me how that you want.
>>
>> and when for example you are in the eu and the new eu copyright reform is
>> active this is illegal to use without a proove against copyright cases!
>>
>> kind regards
>> quaraman
>>
>> Am Do., 8. Nov. 2018, 07:24 hat TonyM  geschrieben:
>>
>>> Quaraman,
>>>
>>> Not withstanding your concerns, I still see value in being able to read
>>> and write using PHP independently of TiddlyWikis save steps. Remember such
>>> a website can be restricted to a single user with SSL and multiple levels
>>> of authentication, then all that would be permitted it to write to a
>>> particular filename, perhaps even one only the server can see. We could use
>>> the security method in https://github.com/sendwheel/tw-receiver which
>>> stops update access unless you have a long password/phrase set.
>>>
>>> I am not asking for a PHP lesson, only some insight as to how easy and
>>> or versatile this would be, and how you may invoke PHP from inside a
>>> TiddlyWiki. If accessible I will go to the effort of learning more about
>>> PHP.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:27:02 UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:

 Hi Tony,

 this is to unspecific to answer the questions.

 What is your concrete case?

 This type of extension is easy to program - only to save a file. But as
 I described earlier : the difficult part is to decide how to handle the
 rights and/or the security and/or your need to proove against such things
 as illegal data (malware/copyrighted material/files that are only for
 adults...)

 Regards,
 quaraman


 TonyM  schrieb am Di., 30. Okt. 2018, 10:15:

> Sven,
>
> If the functions exposed were limited like can only save to a specific
> filename etc could we make it safer?
>
> If however this wiki would be behind a password and only trusted users
> had access, how far could we take this and would it be difficult?.
>
> I would appreciate your advice.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
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[tw5] How to force auto-save on tiddler

[Robert Freiberger]

Hello,

I have my Tiddlywiki shared between my work Mac and personal PC using a
Dropbox folder with the Tiddlydesktop client. While I'm pretty careful,
there have been times I left one client open with a Tiddler I'm in the
middle of editing, only to update the Tiddlywiki on the other client,
causing some data loss.

Is there a way to force a Tiddler to save given a set timeout of no changes
or edits? Not sure if this is possible or is there a better way to manage a
shared Tiddlywiki?

Thanks,
Robert
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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

[Lost Admin]

The IP address for tiddlyspot.com is issued to Dreamhost.com. Dreamhost is 
a California US based company. But they could have servers anywhere. 

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 10:27:37 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Is the EU looking at small sites that narrowly?
>
> Where is tiddlyspot.com located? (All the whois info is redacted). Does 
> tiddlyspot have to follow these rules?
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 5:35:33 AM UTC-8, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Animation effects: On Opening Tiddlers

[Mohammad]

Hello Riz,
 Thank you for the info! It is really great and I can find many effects 
there!

Cheers
Mohammad 

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

[Mohammad]

Hello Josiah,
 Yes, Resource is a better name and make sense.
 I will change its name in the next release!


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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

[Sven Wetzel]

Hi Mark,

the Eu is looking after youtube and other big player.

But how that is affecting a small site is something we only see then the
law is out next year.

And who defines what a small site in the context of this law is?

Welcome in #neuland where politicians see that something like internet
exist!

Who is under this law? Everyone that want to have users living in the Eu!

kind regards
quaraman

Am Do., 8. Nov. 2018, 16:27 hat 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> geschrieben:

> Is the EU looking at small sites that narrowly?
>
> Where is tiddlyspot.com located? (All the whois info is redacted). Does
> tiddlyspot have to follow these rules?
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 5:35:33 AM UTC-8, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Is the EU looking at small sites that narrowly?

Where is tiddlyspot.com located? (All the whois info is redacted). Does 
tiddlyspot have to follow these rules?

-- Mark

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 5:35:33 AM UTC-8, Sven Wetzel wrote:
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>
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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

[TonyM]

Quaraman,

Lets see if I can remove the riddle.

If I build a website for me, online but behind a passphrase and on PHP and 
store personal information and media on it, the only user is me, I will not 
be taking me to task, and if my partner or trusted colleague also has 
access I would not be too worried. Once I have developed a good solution I 
may translate this into a secure website, build the code into a WordPress 
site. I understand the obligations and privacy issues but their are plenty 
of applications and cases where such simply do not exist. Personally I 
produce a lot of my own, original content that I produce myself for 
consumption only by me, it does not include copy write material, or 
collecting information from people but may hold a repository of Open source 
material for me.

PHP services are now available from cloud providers so I can scale and 
prototype to my content.

I understand where you are coming from but are surprised you cant imagine a 
genuine use for this that does not present unacceptable security risks. By 
the way, I appreciate you reminding me of these issues, but I am not so 
concerned at this time with these, even considering to only place anything 
online I cant loose.

To be honest amongst my many roles in IT I also have a background in 
Security which I maintain an interest in.

One example is a NoteSelf TiddlyWiki of my own from which I can export 
changes as a form of backup, or generate json files that exist in another 
folder with different security rights. I may even host a php server on 
local host.

I hope that explains

Now, I wonder if it is easy to get traditional html/php post to work within 
tiddlywiki. My original Question

Thanks and Regards
Tony



On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 12:35:33 AM UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> without prooving against user failure it is very easy. But that is risky 
> as explained before. 
>
> from tiddlywiki perspective it could be a html form that you present with 
> a submit button that trigger the php script.
>
> the php script then read the data it gets.
>
> That this function the tiddlywiki and the php script need to be served 
> from the same domain.
>
> But from your description it is a riddle for me how that you want.
>
> and when for example you are in the eu and the new eu copyright reform is 
> active this is illegal to use without a proove against copyright cases!
>
> kind regards
> quaraman
>
> Am Do., 8. Nov. 2018, 07:24 hat TonyM > 
> geschrieben:
>
>> Quaraman,
>>
>> Not withstanding your concerns, I still see value in being able to read 
>> and write using PHP independently of TiddlyWikis save steps. Remember such 
>> a website can be restricted to a single user with SSL and multiple levels 
>> of authentication, then all that would be permitted it to write to a 
>> particular filename, perhaps even one only the server can see. We could use 
>> the security method in https://github.com/sendwheel/tw-receiver which 
>> stops update access unless you have a long password/phrase set.
>>
>> I am not asking for a PHP lesson, only some insight as to how easy and or 
>> versatile this would be, and how you may invoke PHP from inside a 
>> TiddlyWiki. If accessible I will go to the effort of learning more about 
>> PHP.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:27:02 UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> this is to unspecific to answer the questions.
>>>
>>> What is your concrete case? 
>>>
>>> This type of extension is easy to program - only to save a file. But as 
>>> I described earlier : the difficult part is to decide how to handle the 
>>> rights and/or the security and/or your need to proove against such things 
>>> as illegal data (malware/copyrighted material/files that are only for 
>>> adults...)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> quaraman
>>>
>>>
>>> TonyM  schrieb am Di., 30. Okt. 2018, 10:15:
>>>
 Sven,

 If the functions exposed were limited like can only save to a specific 
 filename etc could we make it safer?

 If however this wiki would be behind a password and only trusted users 
 had access, how far could we take this and would it be difficult?.

 I would appreciate your advice.

 Regards
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Is there No way to spell check with the Code Mirror Plugin?

[TonyM]

MArio,

Yes, I looked at the desktop version in part because of that.

I was hopping to find a way for it to interact locally with the browser. 
There is not.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 11:50:39 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 12:07:33 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> I tried a third party plugin https://languagetool.org/#firefox_chrome , 
>> and as I expected the following was returned
>>
>
> Hi, 
> Just to be sure. 
>
> If you look at the homepage, open the developer panel and check the 
> network communication, you'll see, that there is a POST command. This means 
> all your text will be sent to a 3rd party server. 
>
> This is also true, by default for the browser addOn, as the addon info 
> shows. 
>
> -mario
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Re: [tw5] PHP 5.6 EOL on December 31, what does this mean for the PHP saver?

[Sven Wetzel]

Hi Tony,

without prooving against user failure it is very easy. But that is risky as
explained before.

from tiddlywiki perspective it could be a html form that you present with a
submit button that trigger the php script.

the php script then read the data it gets.

That this function the tiddlywiki and the php script need to be served from
the same domain.

But from your description it is a riddle for me how that you want.

and when for example you are in the eu and the new eu copyright reform is
active this is illegal to use without a proove against copyright cases!

kind regards
quaraman

Am Do., 8. Nov. 2018, 07:24 hat TonyM 
geschrieben:

> Quaraman,
>
> Not withstanding your concerns, I still see value in being able to read
> and write using PHP independently of TiddlyWikis save steps. Remember such
> a website can be restricted to a single user with SSL and multiple levels
> of authentication, then all that would be permitted it to write to a
> particular filename, perhaps even one only the server can see. We could use
> the security method in https://github.com/sendwheel/tw-receiver which
> stops update access unless you have a long password/phrase set.
>
> I am not asking for a PHP lesson, only some insight as to how easy and or
> versatile this would be, and how you may invoke PHP from inside a
> TiddlyWiki. If accessible I will go to the effort of learning more about
> PHP.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:27:02 UTC+11, Sven Wetzel wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> this is to unspecific to answer the questions.
>>
>> What is your concrete case?
>>
>> This type of extension is easy to program - only to save a file. But as I
>> described earlier : the difficult part is to decide how to handle the
>> rights and/or the security and/or your need to proove against such things
>> as illegal data (malware/copyrighted material/files that are only for
>> adults...)
>>
>> Regards,
>> quaraman
>>
>>
>> TonyM  schrieb am Di., 30. Okt. 2018, 10:15:
>>
>>> Sven,
>>>
>>> If the functions exposed were limited like can only save to a specific
>>> filename etc could we make it safer?
>>>
>>> If however this wiki would be behind a password and only trusted users
>>> had access, how far could we take this and would it be difficult?.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate your advice.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Animation effects: On Opening Tiddlers

[Riz]

You can actually add a css animation library like  
https://daneden.github.io/animate.css/ to the wiki as a stylesheet and add 
animation classes to the "class" field of tiddler.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Is there No way to spell check with the Code Mirror Plugin?

[PMario]

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 12:07:33 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> I tried a third party plugin https://languagetool.org/#firefox_chrome , 
> and as I expected the following was returned
>

Hi, 
Just to be sure. 

If you look at the homepage, open the developer panel and check the network 
communication, you'll see, that there is a POST command. This means all 
your text will be sent to a 3rd party server. 

This is also true, by default for the browser addOn, as the addon info 
shows. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

IS it an "Archive"?

It is one in the sense of collecting posts from GG, but wouldn't it be 
better advanced as a "Resource?"

Just thoughts
Josiah

On Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:41:26 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
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> A new release is announced!
>
> See the original post edited: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/VRwNIvkd0-c/HxD_jwQCAwAJ
>
> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mohammad & Tony

I think this is a really good approach. I mean Mohammad's basic idea / 
solution is a good one.

My question is this: HOW to make it live? Such that a user could add to a 
collective archive? So it could scale to a bigger resource?

Wondering
Josiah



On Thursday, 8 November 2018 12:30:29 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thank you Tony!
> Thank you for your kind words!
>
> Actually if we could have an online collections of solution it would be 
> excellent! If intrested people can contribute, it is the best!
>
> What I did here is at least collect great solutions from this forum for 
> later reference and reuse!
>
> I even thought for short term we can share a tiddlyspot page to do it! But 
> I really wish to have an online collaboration to have TW documentation like 
> what is on https://readthedocs.org/
>
> You well know, the tiddlywiki.com is not a place to find all the TW docs, 
> while it is a great source for developers!
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlySmile ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

April Mackenzie wrote in earnest ...

"I can't get my TiddlyWiki to work on my Blackberry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI

Any suggestions to solve this issue?"

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[tw5] Re: Compare two variables for equality and inequality

[TonyM]

For people passing this way,

Eric's tip translated to my application looks like this, need not separate 
definition of currentWiki

<$reveal type="match" default={{!!wiki-owner}} 
text={{$:/PSaT/wikimanager/wiki-tiddler##wiki-title}}>
   {{Certificate.svg}} Match



<$reveal type="nomatch" default={{!!wiki-owner}} 
text={{$:/PSaT/wikimanager/wiki-tiddler##wiki-title}}>
{{Certificate-not.svg}} No Match




 but that would be nice to replace 
{{$:/PSaT/wikimanager/wiki-tiddler##wiki-title}} with <> but 
it does not work

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

[Mohammad]

Thank you Tony!
Thank you for your kind words!

Actually if we could have an online collections of solution it would be 
excellent! If intrested people can contribute, it is the best!

What I did here is at least collect great solutions from this forum for 
later reference and reuse!

I even thought for short term we can share a tiddlyspot page to do it! But 
I really wish to have an online collaboration to have TW documentation like 
what is on https://readthedocs.org/

You well know, the tiddlywiki.com is not a place to find all the TW docs, 
while it is a great source for developers!


Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Is there No way to spell check with the Code Mirror Plugin?

[TonyM]

I tried a third party plugin https://languagetool.org/#firefox_chrome , and 
as I expected the following was returned


*No text foundYou don't seem to be inside a text area. If you're using an 
online office software, this add-on might not work there. Please check if 
the online office supports add-ons which provide support for LanguageTool.*

I expected with Code mirrors fancy line numbers and highlight it would not 
be a "text area"

I Downloaded the Desktop version
C:\Data\LanguageTool-4.3\languagetool.jar Need to copy and paste to this 
Java App

Perhaps it could use WithExEditor (With External Editor addon in fire fox) 
not tried, but I want that to open notepad++


On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 9:39:32 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I would like to open this up again. 
>
> Code Mirror on both latest FireFox and Chrome seems to not operate within 
> the codeMirror text editor (plugins). FireFox is my preferred Browser for 
> many reasons, although I use both. 
>
>
>- I use the browsers spell checker in both cases, and whilst they 
>leave a little to be desired is there a solution path to this problem?
>- Perhaps there are better in browser spell checkers, or can we extend 
>the code-mirror plugins to include a spell checking module?
>
> Perhaps a worst case scenario would be including the dictionary in a 
> tiddlywiki plugin, but if it was in "selected" tiddlywikis and word lookup 
> could take place accessible it could be a boon to the authors with in our 
> number as well as those that love playing with language. I remember pre 
> internet days the joy of using an equivalent of regex to find the longest 
> wort beginning "auto" or psycho was a lot of fun, or tiddlywiki could be 
> used for scrabble and cross word builders and more.
>
> Any solutions/Thoughts?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 3:48:07 AM UTC+11, Jeff Vance wrote:
>>
>> I did a search and saw this question come up several times in the past, 
>> but there has never been a clear answer. The browser's spell check does not 
>> work when using the Code Mirror plugin. In the past threads, the solution 
>> was always to disable Code Mirror!  To me, that is not really a solution. 
>> I'd rather keep Code Mirror and just try to be more careful with my 
>> spelling.  But I keep noticing typos when I go back to read things later.  
>> Is there really no way to get the spell check to work again? 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Is there No way to spell check with the Code Mirror Plugin?

[TonyM]

Folks,

I would like to open this up again. 

Code Mirror on both latest FireFox and Chrome seems to not operate within 
the codeMirror text editor (plugins). FireFox is my preferred Browser for 
many reasons, although I use both. 


   - I use the browsers spell checker in both cases, and whilst they leave 
   a little to be desired is there a solution path to this problem?
   - Perhaps there are better in browser spell checkers, or can we extend 
   the code-mirror plugins to include a spell checking module?
   
Perhaps a worst case scenario would be including the dictionary in a 
tiddlywiki plugin, but if it was in "selected" tiddlywikis and word lookup 
could take place accessible it could be a boon to the authors with in our 
number as well as those that love playing with language. I remember pre 
internet days the joy of using an equivalent of regex to find the longest 
wort beginning "auto" or psycho was a lot of fun, or tiddlywiki could be 
used for scrabble and cross word builders and more.

Any solutions/Thoughts?

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 3:48:07 AM UTC+11, Jeff Vance wrote:
>
> I did a search and saw this question come up several times in the past, 
> but there has never been a clear answer. The browser's spell check does not 
> work when using the Code Mirror plugin. In the past threads, the solution 
> was always to disable Code Mirror!  To me, that is not really a solution. 
> I'd rather keep Code Mirror and just try to be more careful with my 
> spelling.  But I keep noticing typos when I go back to read things later.  
> Is there really no way to get the spell check to work again? 
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

This looks great I will be looking in more detail soon.

If I understand you propose people to use this in there own wikis to accumulate 
solutions? What do you think about sharing them?

I am building a new user edition, that people can use while learning 
tiddlywiki, should I include this in that?

You are a great contributor Mohammad despite you relative recent discovery of 
tiddlywiki, so once again, thanks for your contribution.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

[Mohammad]

A new release is announced!

See the original post 
edited: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/VRwNIvkd0-c/HxD_jwQCAwAJ

Mohammad


On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement a new plugin*
>
> To download have a look at:
>  
> http://solution-archive.tiddlyspot.com/#
>
>
> *Philosophy*
>
> There are many questions and answers in TW Google forum 
> , some of them shows 
> elegant solution to raised questions and worth to be archived in a manner 
> to be accessible easily later on.
>
> *Solution plugin*
>
> This is a small plugin to create solution tiddlers for PERSONAL use. It 
> adds a button to page controls and uses template to show the author, 
> reference post and also lets to add keywords. The keywords act like tags, 
> so, clicking on them shows the list of all tiddler tagged with this keyword.
>
>
>
> - Mohammad
>

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