date:20181211

How about "post Hierarchical" ? Kind of poetic and techy.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:05:03 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> S S,
>
> I consider as permitting you to structure and store your information in 
> anyway you wish not only in a *linear manner*. 
>
> Its use is in someways more poetic than a technical description, However 
> it caught my eye more than a decade ago, because it was proposing a truly 
> open solution.
>
> Some would say a text document from top to bottom is linear, or a 
> hierarchical note pad fixed within the hierarchical model, but non-linear 
> suggests to me these are possible, but so much more is possible.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: [Slightly OT] Jeremy speaking at CodeMesh, London 8/9th November 2018

Josiah,

The so mominated technical items, are sourced from technical diciplins, however 
the relavant learnings to dealing with data, information and knowledge are not 
dissimilar to understanding analysis and synthesis. They include such concepts 
that are so importiant they should be understood publicaly.

One example is "normalisation" from database design and management. The pithy 
statement that comes from that is the details in a given record should be 
related to the key, the whole key, and nothing but the key.

Perhaps we could say that every field including the text field in a tiddller 
should be related to the tiddler title, the whole title and nothing but the 
title.

Understanding this could fix a lot of speadsheets out there or make obviouse, 
common logical errors.


Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Thanks very much. As far as formatting goes, I was really meaning the font 
of the "Backlinks" title and I've got that now.

Damon

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:48:55 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Change the first filter to
>
> [all[current]tag[HelloThere]]
>
> (but with your tag) and then it should always display the "Backlinks" 
> title.
>
> As for the format, I'm not sure what you mean. I used the list-links macro 
> (https://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links%20Macro) to display the actual links. 
> That was the quickest, easiest way to display the items. The list-links 
> macro can take a class, to help customize the look. But you can "roll your 
> own" by replacing the list-links with the list widget, using the same 
> filter as used with the list-links macro. 
>
> See https://tiddlywiki.com/#ListWidget for more information about using 
> the list widget.
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:23:20 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Ah, ok. Could you tell me what in the code prevents it from showing if 
>> there are no backlinks? Also, is there a way to format the output to match 
>> the format of the tiddler?
>>
>> Damon
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:02:33 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> It only displays if there are backlinks. If there are no backlinks, then 
>>> there will be no display.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:26:52 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. 
 Not every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 
 of them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. 
 It did exactly what I wanted otherwise.

 Damon


 On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett 
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body 
> of all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those 
> tiddlers. I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a 
> certain tag value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of 
> each of these so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is 
> there an easy way of doing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon Pritchett
>


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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Duh! Thanks for the reminder.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:47:07 PM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Damon,
>
> The part that prevents it from showing when there aren't any backlinks is 
> the ListWidget's filter attribute - the same part that shows it if there 
> are backlinks. In other words, if that filter is empty (no backlinks) then 
> nothing inside the list widget gets done. If the filter is NOT empty 
> (meaning there ARE backlinks), then the list widget goes ahead and *does 
> stuff.*
>
> For example, if you go to tiddlywiki.com make a new tiddler and type:
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]">
>
> 
>
> you should see all of the tiddlers tagged with HelloThere. But if you type:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[SomeNonsenseTag]]">
>
> 
>
> you would see nothing! 
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 8:23:20 PM UTC-6, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Ah, ok. Could you tell me what in the code prevents it from showing if 
>> there are no backlinks? Also, is there a way to format the output to match 
>> the format of the tiddler?
>>
>> Damon
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:02:33 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> It only displays if there are backlinks. If there are no backlinks, then 
>>> there will be no display.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:26:52 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. 
 Not every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 
 of them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. 
 It did exactly what I wanted otherwise.

 Damon


 On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett 
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body 
> of all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those 
> tiddlers. I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a 
> certain tag value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of 
> each of these so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is 
> there an easy way of doing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon Pritchett
>


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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Change the first filter to

[all[current]tag[HelloThere]]

(but with your tag) and then it should always display the "Backlinks" title.

As for the format, I'm not sure what you mean. I used the list-links macro 
(https://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links%20Macro) to display the actual links. 
That was the quickest, easiest way to display the items. The list-links 
macro can take a class, to help customize the look. But you can "roll your 
own" by replacing the list-links with the list widget, using the same 
filter as used with the list-links macro. 

See https://tiddlywiki.com/#ListWidget for more information about using the 
list widget.

HTH
-- Mark

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:23:20 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Ah, ok. Could you tell me what in the code prevents it from showing if 
> there are no backlinks? Also, is there a way to format the output to match 
> the format of the tiddler?
>
> Damon
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:02:33 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It only displays if there are backlinks. If there are no backlinks, then 
>> there will be no display.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:26:52 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. 
>>> Not every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 
>>> of them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. 
>>> It did exactly what I wanted otherwise.
>>>
>>> Damon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body 
 of all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those 
 tiddlers. I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a 
 certain tag value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of 
 each of these so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is 
 there an easy way of doing this?

 Thanks,

 Damon Pritchett

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Hey Damon,

The part that prevents it from showing when there aren't any backlinks is 
the ListWidget's filter attribute - the same part that shows it if there 
are backlinks. In other words, if that filter is empty (no backlinks) then 
nothing inside the list widget gets done. If the filter is NOT empty 
(meaning there ARE backlinks), then the list widget goes ahead and *does 
stuff.*

For example, if you go to tiddlywiki.com make a new tiddler and type:

<$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]">

you should see all of the tiddlers tagged with HelloThere. But if you type:

<$list filter="[tag[SomeNonsenseTag]]">

you would see nothing! 

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 8:23:20 PM UTC-6, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Ah, ok. Could you tell me what in the code prevents it from showing if 
> there are no backlinks? Also, is there a way to format the output to match 
> the format of the tiddler?
>
> Damon
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:02:33 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It only displays if there are backlinks. If there are no backlinks, then 
>> there will be no display.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:26:52 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. 
>>> Not every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 
>>> of them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. 
>>> It did exactly what I wanted otherwise.
>>>
>>> Damon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body 
 of all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those 
 tiddlers. I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a 
 certain tag value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of 
 each of these so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is 
 there an easy way of doing this?

 Thanks,

 Damon Pritchett

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Ah, ok. Could you tell me what in the code prevents it from showing if 
there are no backlinks? Also, is there a way to format the output to match 
the format of the tiddler?

Damon


On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:02:33 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It only displays if there are backlinks. If there are no backlinks, then 
> there will be no display.
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:26:52 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. 
>> Not every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 
>> of them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. 
>> It did exactly what I wanted otherwise.
>>
>> Damon
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body of 
>>> all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those tiddlers. 
>>> I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a certain tag 
>>> value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of each of these 
>>> so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is there an easy way 
>>> of doing this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Damon Pritchett
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Filename Generation on Save Has Changed in v5.1.18?

I have added more comments to solve the issue, but take it further. 

We need a bit more hack-ability here to open new possibilities.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 7:13:30 AM UTC+11, Scott Simmons 
(Secret-HQ) wrote:
>
> Thanks, guys!
>
> I dropped a comment in there 
> ,
>  
> as well.
>
> In the interest of backward-compatibility and more flexibility in naming 
>> TiddlyWiki files, I'd like to see the old behavior restored — though I can 
>> see a lot of appeal to the new behavior.
>> In my case, I use custom extensions for TiddlyWiki files (.TW5 and .TWC 
>> for older TiddlyWikiClassics) that allow me to handle them with my 
>> preferred browsers (which aren't the same as my day-to-day default browser).
>> I am, as always, all in favor of making the behavior configurable, either 
>> as part of the core or as a core plugin. 
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Dave's awesome list & hi from a new tiddlee

2018-12-11 Thread Pauline


On 12/12/18 10:05, Scott Kingery wrote:

I've created http://bit.ly/tiddlytoolmap



Thanks for that I'm about to have a play with the exploration plugin. I'm a few 
hours in to mashing a tiddlywiki together as an organisation tool for my extensive 
sewing stash (currently in a fairly useless excel spreadsheet). Tiddlywiki is the 
only thing I've found which has all the bits I'm after: tags, links, image support, 
portability, an unlimited number of bits of data, & ability to retain complete 
control over data (I have an aversion to all things cloud).

I am finding some concepts easy. Others, not so much. I spent time yesterday 
wondering why on earth csv -> json + import refused to work. I eventually 
realised that field names (title, text) needed to be lower case for the import to 
work. Excel had the column heads as title case.

I keep seeing tiddlywikis with all sorts of useful features (tag counts in the 
sidebar I'm looking at you) so it's just a matter of figuring out how to get 
them working in mine.

Happy to help make things easier to understand for mere mortals if I can. & 
thanks for all the awesomeness of tiddlywiki.

Cheers,
P

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Re: [tw5] A list of "active" templates?

Diego,

If you wrote a helper macro that you use to invoke you templates, you could 
use your macro where ever you want to use a template, and later you can 
search for than macros name in your tiddlers, to get a list of all tiddler 
using your template helper macro.

You could also introduce another practice, like I do for my macro 
definitions. In any tiddler that defines one or more macros I create a 
field macro-macroname with the content the syntax eg "<> this macro does x to tiddlername.". I then do a search for 
all fields with the prefix "macro-" and display where they were found and 
the content.

You could do the same for all uses of a template eg 
uses-template-templatename (optionaly containing the full tiddler name of 
that template) and on the template tiddler itself have a field 
tamplate-name=templatename

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 8:07:33 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Jeremy,
>
> Thanks for your response. I do indeed use that all the time, but that 
> shows me everything "active" where "active" means "tagged with" view 
> template. I was thinking of something more like "active" meaning it 
> actually DRAWS something on this tiddler. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:05:10 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Diego
>>
>> Frequently, something like the following issue happens:
>>
>> Ill make a template that has any tiddler tagged with "Scientist" show any 
>> tiddlers tagged with "Publications" in its body. Much later, I'll decide I 
>> want this functionality to work for authors as well - now I have to go back 
>> and remember what template did that, etc. 
>>
>> Proper naming and separation of templates helps with this of course, but 
>> I was thinking if there is any way to have a tab in the tiddler info pane 
>> that shows what "active" templates are actually rendering/drawing in this 
>> tiddler, with a link for easy access? 
>>
>>
>> I think this is indeed mostly a matter of using a good naming convention, 
>> but one helpful trick is that if you open any tiddler with the tag 
>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate you’ll be able to click on the tag pill to get a 
>> listing of all the active view template segments.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: "non-linear personal web notebook" or "non-linear platform"

S S,

I consider as permitting you to structure and store your information in 
anyway you wish not only in a *linear manner*. 

Its use is in someways more poetic than a technical description, However it 
caught my eye more than a decade ago, because it was proposing a truly open 
solution.

Some would say a text document from top to bottom is linear, or a 
hierarchical note pad fixed within the hierarchical model, but non-linear 
suggests to me these are possible, but so much more is possible.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

It only displays if there are backlinks. If there are no backlinks, then 
there will be no display.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:26:52 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. 
> Not every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 
> of them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. 
> It did exactly what I wanted otherwise.
>
> Damon
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body of 
>> all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those tiddlers. 
>> I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a certain tag 
>> value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of each of these 
>> so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is there an easy way 
>> of doing this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Damon Pritchett
>>
>

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[tw5] FYI: Helpful Discovery when using Multiple Wikis - Open in same tab

Folks,

In my Quest for even simpler and smoother solutions for naive users and
enthusiasts alike, I would like to share a recent discovery. At some point
it should be documented somewhere else.

*Using Multiple Wikis - Open in same tab*

Pre-condition: If your wikis autosave changes, if you make changes these
should be saved before you leave any tab containing a wiki. Thus when you
return to that tab there is no harm if it reloads automatically (and will
not loose previous updates), unless it is very big and too slow for this.

*Use case*:
If you have multiple wikis you may often want to store a link in one wiki
that refers to a tiddler in another wiki. However you soon discover that
every link is likely to open that wiki a second and third time in a new
tab. Your browser quickly gets messy and you have to perform a tab closure
process, whenever it is no longer needed. Unless you are using Bob for
multi-access to all your wikis, there is a real risk changes in one tab
will write over changes in another tab, making it even more important to be
careful.

*My first work around.*
To avoid this I tend to open all my regular wikis in the FireFox browser
and Pin the tabs, when I see a link to another wiki, I go to the relevant
tab and search for the tiddler, that is I cant use the link because it
would just open another tab and there is a real risk changes in one tab
will write over changes in another tab.

*My Discovery*

Using html links as follows
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators;
target="_blank">TiddlyWiki
Filter Operators

Some of you will be familiar with the target= and its common values

- _blank - Opens the linked document in a new window or tab
- _self - Opens the linked document in the same window/tab as it was
clicked (this is default)
- _parent - Opens the linked document in the parent frame
- _top - Opens the linked document in the full body of the window

*But I have until now myself missed the additional item*

- *framename* - Opens the linked document in a named frame

Basically this allows us to name the frame or Tab in our browser in which
to open the link

* https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators;
target="TiddlyWiki.com">~TiddlyWiki Filter Operators
* https://tiddlywiki.com/#SavingMechanism;
target="TiddlyWiki.com">~TiddlyWiki ~SavingMechanism
* https://tiddlywiki.com/;
target="TiddlyWiki.com">~TiddlyWiki.com
Note: I have stopped wikification of camel case in the display title,
otherwise they tend to open tiddlers not the link. You could use the text
widget to return plain text.

- Using the above you will see each link will open the same tab in the
browser, if you use a target name of your different wikis names all links
sharing the same target will open in the same tab.
- Using this method you can open wikis just in time, from a Directory
wiki, not have a messy list of tabs with the same wiki and the potential to
save over a change in another tab.
- If you open a directory tiddler in a new Window with links to tiddlers
using the same target=wikiname the browser will change to that tab and open
the selected tiddler.

*note: *If you tabs are pinned it will not recognise the tab name, and
bookmarks seem to ignore the target value.

Please provide feedback so others know if this is a helpful tip or not.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Hi Mark,

Thanks very much. That nearly did the trick, but it was very selective. Not 
every tiddler with the given tag was modified. I didn't check all 1800 of 
them, but of the ones I did check, only a small fraction were changed. It 
did exactly what I wanted otherwise.

Damon


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> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body of 
> all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those tiddlers. 
> I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a certain tag 
> value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of each of these 
> so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is there an easy way 
> of doing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon Pritchett
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[tw5] Adjusting the EditTemplate body editor height dynamically

2018-12-11 Thread AdamS

So the title pretty much says it. Specifically, I'm trying to make the text 
box take up however much space is left in the tiddler and scroll once that 
space is used up. Near as I can tell, though, both options for the editor 
height are built into the edit widget. Does anyone know of a workaround for 
this? Or is making a new widget the only way forward on this problem? 

Best regards,

AdamS

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[tw5] Re: Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Physically appending the items would mean that you would then have to 
change them (probably manually) every time your tiddlers changed. But you 
could use a view template.

Make a tiddler and tag it with $:/tags/ViewTemplate with the following 
contents:

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[HelloThere]backlinks[]limit[1]]" 
variable="dummy">

!!! Backlinks
<>



But change tag[HelloThere] to whatever your tag name is.

This should list links to the respective tiddlers at the bottom of the 
tiddlers that have the desired tag.

Be sure to make a make a backup before trying this, in case I've made some 
horrible error!

Also, be aware that if you just want to see the backlinks occasionally, you 
can click on the "info" button from the drop-down menu on every tiddler. 
>From the set of tabs that appears you can pick "References"  to see a 
listing of tiddlers that link to the current tiddler.

-- Mark


On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:02:11 PM UTC-8, Damon Pritchett wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body of 
> all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those tiddlers. 
> I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a certain tag 
> value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of each of these 
> so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is there an easy way 
> of doing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon Pritchett
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.1.1 Pretzel Nubs

2018-12-11 Thread Alex Hough

Jed,

perhaps we could try it out. I could be a tester. the TW could be concerned
with the installation I mentioned elsewhere...

Alex

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> For anyone using the plugin version, I added some quick instructions on
> how to update tiddlywiki to the newest version. Let me know if there are
> any problems with them.
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[tw5] Append text to body of all tiddlers that match a certain tag

Hello,

I'm looking for a way to append one or more lines of text to the body of 
all tiddlers that are tagged with a specified tag and only those tiddlers. 
I have several hundred tiddlers that are all tagged with a certain tag 
value. I would like to append a backlinks line at the end of each of these 
so that I can see what other tiddlers reference them. Is there an easy way 
of doing this?

Thanks,

Damon Pritchett

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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki at the local Community College

2018-12-11 Thread Alex Hough

Jeremy wrote:

One crazy possibility I’ve considered is to package a course as “personal
effectiveness” or “personal organisation" and show people how to be more
organised using the principles we’ve learned with TW. You’d still be
teaching how to use TiddlyWiki, but within a broader agenda rooted on the
idea that many people feel they would be more effective and successful if
only they were a little better organised…


I think a side project were us TWikers reflect on learning in this context
is a good idea...

Alex

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 08:29, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Tony
>
> Doing the course is a great idea. Your bullet points are good.
>
> One crazy possibility I’ve considered is to package a course as “personal
> effectiveness” or “personal organisation" and show people how to be more
> organised using the principles we’ve learned with TW. You’d still be
> teaching how to use TiddlyWiki, but within a broader agenda rooted on the
> idea that many people feel they would be more effective and successful if
> only they were a little better organised…
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 6 Dec 2018, at 06:56, TonyM  wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I am hoping to offer some tiddlywiki lessons with our local community
> college, on the subject of our beloved TiddlyWiki.
>
> I hope to build a local group of enthusiasts. It seems however the college
> needs persuading it is a marketable course.
>
> I have given this some thought but wonder what you would think would be a
> good way to market it to those as yet uninitiated in the "TiddlyWiki
> platform"
>
> here is an example I have
>
>
>- Ever dreamed of writing an App?
>- Do you want to be in control of your own computer?
>- Ever wanted to build a database of information for a hobby?
>- Software is a key to the modern world, but being able to write your
>own software makes you the locksmith.
>
>- In the beginning there was the "General Purpose Computer", on which
>others wrote programs.
>- In time there came the "Universal Client", for which others built
>websites
>- Then came Internet 2.0 which others allowed you to add content
>- Then came tiddlywiki, and all that went before it became yours.
>
> I would appreciate your ideas.
>
> Tony
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Slightly OT] Jeremy speaking at CodeMesh, London 8/9th November 2018

2018-12-11 Thread Alex Hough

Hi All,

I've sent an email to Sonix [1] requestion time to transcribe the talk.

I also get free minutes if other people sign up using the link [2]

My grand idea that the audio could be cut up into semantic units and put
into TW

I did a test [3] with a YouTube of Mark Fisher [4]

I wondered if the Sonix audio editor could be embedded in a Tiddler...

Once the text is in the editor you can use it a bit like a sampler. I[5].
Use the browser's built in search to navigate to word and phrases -- and
hey -- why not feed it into SonicPi for your sonic art project?


Alex

[1] https://sonix.ai/
[2] https://sonix.ai/invite/kmnagvw
[3] https://sonix.ai/r/xpe6rwtXX8sm1pbMUP4okUe1
[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOcwhwumP4
[5] https://soundcloud.com/startdivergence/r26-0003-1wav

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 18:03, Joe Armstrong  wrote:

> Thinking out loud here ...
>
> I've been thinking more about tags. One problem is that tags are rather
> vague and are written in different human languages.
>
> One way out of this might be to adopt the wikidata word definitions. For
> example, I am, unambiguously
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1691321
>
> There are actually several Joe Armstrong's (for example,
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q712592)
>
> These Q numbers uniquely define subjects and objects. Verbs (or
> predicates) are given by P numbers
> so https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P178 means "the organisation or
> person who developed the item.
>
> in RDF speak the triple
>
> {https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1144644,
>   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P178,
>   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17031730}
>
> (BTW I recommend clicking on these links and playing around - there's lots
> of interesting
> data in RDF tuples and the above links are a good place to start looking)
>
> Means "TiddlyWiki developer Jeremy Rushton"
>
> These triples encode facts in a hopefully reasonably clear manner.
>
> So now the N$ question - can we automatically analyse a tiddler and turn
> it into a set
> of RDF tuples. If we could then we could add these to the huge databases
> of RDF tuples
> and possible find stuff in a clever way.
>
> The filter notation in the tiddlywiki reminds me very much of prolog, and
> I guess with a but of
> work SPARQL queries might be possible (SPARQL is an RDF query language)
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 10 December 2018 17:43:01 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> One of the things that interests me a lot that the talk raised a bit--and
>> which no one seems to know how to answer is ... :-)
>>
>> - WHAT exactly is an SU (Semantic Unit) in TW writing (or computing
>> writing In General, for that matter)?
>>
>> There is a kind of rule of thumb "its maybe a paragraph"? But, of course
>> that won't quite work for the one-sentence brevity of a Nietzsche.
>>
>> Its obviously highly context dependent. And I doubt much of that context
>> lives on the computer itself.
>>
>> The idea in TW towards writing "the shortest semantic whole possible"
>> (the word "fragment" here that is thrown around has muddied waters; they
>> are not fragments so much as whole-parts-of-wholes) allows for later
>> re-combinations to form more complex semantics.
>>
>> However, I think its bit of an, ultimately, moot and mute point, in the
>> sense that human meaning is often an interaction with technologies of
>> expression themselves (though no where ever fully defined by them). So its
>> an area of intuited understanding, not formal logic? On the other hand,
>> who's offering the horse which water?
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Monday, 10 December 2018 12:49:14 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here's the video:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1UfLPK7_Q=9=PLvL2NEhYV4ZtWFBNOrApXaIoCTtj-yk7Y
>>>
>>> have fun!
>>> mario
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Dave's awesome list

2018-12-11 Thread Scott Kingery

I've created http://bit.ly/tiddlytoolmap


On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> Hi Stephen 
>
> “tiddlytools” may not be the best shortcut because it’s already associated 
> with Eric Shulman’s http://tiddlytools.com/ site for TiddlyWiki Classic. 
> Perhaps “tiddlytoolmap” is closer to Dave’s title for it too? 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy. 
>
> > On 9 Dec 2018, at 20:14, Ste Wilson > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > I've set up a bitly to Dave's awesome list of tiddly goodness 
> > 
> > Find it at 
> > 
> > bit.ly/tiddlytools 
> > 
> > Thought it might help 
> > 
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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

@Jon

Ok! Great that it's working for you. Some feedback might be useful.

I'm looking at "Table-of-Contents Macros" on TiddlyWiki.com, which ideally 
would have been your first stop when studying the TOC macros.

What do you think should have been in the document there that would have 
been more helpful?

Thanks!
-- Mark



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>
> Got it!
>
> Thanks for your help Mark.
>
> As has been said before, it's a shame this instruction now gets sort of 
> lost.
>
> Jon.
>
> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:16:17 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the 
>>> text into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed 
>>> "TableOfContents" to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a 
>>> partial version of the existing TableOfContents.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You can't just point at any tiddler. There has to be a "tree" of tagged 
>> tiddlers, with the "root" tiddler at the top. Like
>>
>>MyTiddler
>>TiddlerA (tagged with MyTiddler)
>>TiddlerA-1 (tagged with TiddlerA)
>>TiddlerB (tagged with MyTiddler)
>>   TiddlerB-1 (tagged with TiddlerB)
>>
>> Hopefuly GG won't mangle that too badly. So, are your tiddlers structured 
>> as tag-trees ? Only tiddlers that are part of the tree will show up.
>>
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
>>
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Re: [tw5] Dave's awesome list

Hi Stephen

“tiddlytools” may not be the best shortcut because it’s already associated with 
Eric Shulman’s http://tiddlytools.com/ site for TiddlyWiki Classic. Perhaps 
“tiddlytoolmap” is closer to Dave’s title for it too?

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> I've set up a bitly to Dave's awesome list of tiddly goodness
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> Find it at
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> bit.ly/tiddlytools
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Re: [tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Hi Mark

The process will be the same for contributors at this point.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> On 11 Dec 2018, at 21:46, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> Is there a new on-ramp for documentation, or is it still via the GitHub PR 
> process?
> 
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
> 
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:06:37 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Just a reminder that as of the release of v5.1.18 we plan to maintain the 
> ability to issue rapid updates to the documentation that won’t need to wait 
> for the next release.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> On 11 Dec 2018, at 19:44, Jon > wrote:
>> 
>> Got it!
>> 
>> Thanks for your help Mark.
>> 
>> As has been said before, it's a shame this instruction now gets sort of lost.
>> 
>> Jon.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:16:17 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>> Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the 
>> text into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed 
>> "TableOfContents" to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a partial 
>> version of the existing TableOfContents.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You can't just point at any tiddler. There has to be a "tree" of tagged 
>> tiddlers, with the "root" tiddler at the top. Like
>> 
>>MyTiddler
>>TiddlerA (tagged with MyTiddler)
>>TiddlerA-1 (tagged with TiddlerA)
>>TiddlerB (tagged with MyTiddler)
>>   TiddlerB-1 (tagged with TiddlerB)
>> 
>> Hopefuly GG won't mangle that too badly. So, are your tiddlers structured as 
>> tag-trees ? Only tiddlers that are part of the tree will show up.
>> 
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
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Re: [tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Hi Jeremy,

Is there a new on-ramp for documentation, or is it still via the GitHub PR 
process?

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:06:37 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Just a reminder that as of the release of v5.1.18 we plan to maintain the 
> ability to issue rapid updates to the documentation that won’t need to wait 
> for the next release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 11 Dec 2018, at 19:44, Jon > wrote:
>
> Got it!
>
> Thanks for your help Mark.
>
> As has been said before, it's a shame this instruction now gets sort of 
> lost.
>
> Jon.
>
> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:16:17 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the 
>>> text into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed 
>>> "TableOfContents" to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a 
>>> partial version of the existing TableOfContents.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You can't just point at any tiddler. There has to be a "tree" of tagged 
>> tiddlers, with the "root" tiddler at the top. Like
>>
>>MyTiddler
>>TiddlerA (tagged with MyTiddler)
>>TiddlerA-1 (tagged with TiddlerA)
>>TiddlerB (tagged with MyTiddler)
>>   TiddlerB-1 (tagged with TiddlerB)
>>
>> Hopefuly GG won't mangle that too badly. So, are your tiddlers structured 
>> as tag-trees ? Only tiddlers that are part of the tree will show up.
>>
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: New filter operator: kindred: Filter tiddlers by tags (or any fields) recursively

Hi Bimlas

> On 10 Dec 2018, at 13:46, bimlas  wrote:
> 
> If I understand that right, it's not bad to distribute modifications in the 
> core as a plugin, because by deleting the plugin, changes in the core will 
> also disappear? So passing kin as a plugin for TonyM is OK?

That’s exactly right.

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Re: [tw5] A list of "active" templates?

Hi Diego

> Thanks for your response. I do indeed use that all the time, but that shows 
> me everything "active" where "active" means "tagged with" view template. I 
> was thinking of something more like "active" meaning it actually DRAWS 
> something on this tiddler. 

The trouble is that it’s a matter for each segment how and whether it draws 
anything, there’s no generic way to take a segment and determine whether it’s 
content is visible. You’d need to adopt a convention for your custom segments 
such as storing the visibility filter in a field that you can then inspect 
elsewhere with a list filter.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:05:10 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Diego
>> Frequently, something like the following issue happens:
>> 
>> Ill make a template that has any tiddler tagged with "Scientist" show any 
>> tiddlers tagged with "Publications" in its body. Much later, I'll decide I 
>> want this functionality to work for authors as well - now I have to go back 
>> and remember what template did that, etc. 
>> 
>> Proper naming and separation of templates helps with this of course, but I 
>> was thinking if there is any way to have a tab in the tiddler info pane that 
>> shows what "active" templates are actually rendering/drawing in this 
>> tiddler, with a link for easy access? 
> 
> I think this is indeed mostly a matter of using a good naming convention, but 
> one helpful trick is that if you open any tiddler with the tag 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate you’ll be able to click on the tag pill to get a listing 
> of all the active view template segments.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tw5] A list of "active" templates?

Hey Jeremy,

Thanks for your response. I do indeed use that all the time, but that shows 
me everything "active" where "active" means "tagged with" view template. I 
was thinking of something more like "active" meaning it actually DRAWS 
something on this tiddler. 


On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:05:10 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Diego
>
> Frequently, something like the following issue happens:
>
> Ill make a template that has any tiddler tagged with "Scientist" show any 
> tiddlers tagged with "Publications" in its body. Much later, I'll decide I 
> want this functionality to work for authors as well - now I have to go back 
> and remember what template did that, etc. 
>
> Proper naming and separation of templates helps with this of course, but I 
> was thinking if there is any way to have a tab in the tiddler info pane 
> that shows what "active" templates are actually rendering/drawing in this 
> tiddler, with a link for easy access? 
>
>
> I think this is indeed mostly a matter of using a good naming convention, 
> but one helpful trick is that if you open any tiddler with the tag 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate you’ll be able to click on the tag pill to get a 
> listing of all the active view template segments.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Just a reminder that as of the release of v5.1.18 we plan to maintain the 
ability to issue rapid updates to the documentation that won’t need to wait for 
the next release.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 11 Dec 2018, at 19:44, Jon  wrote:
> 
> Got it!
> 
> Thanks for your help Mark.
> 
> As has been said before, it's a shame this instruction now gets sort of lost.
> 
> Jon.
> 
> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:16:17 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
> Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the text 
> into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed "TableOfContents" 
> to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a partial version of the 
> existing TableOfContents.
> 
> 
> 
> You can't just point at any tiddler. There has to be a "tree" of tagged 
> tiddlers, with the "root" tiddler at the top. Like
> 
>MyTiddler
>TiddlerA (tagged with MyTiddler)
>TiddlerA-1 (tagged with TiddlerA)
>TiddlerB (tagged with MyTiddler)
>   TiddlerB-1 (tagged with TiddlerB)
> 
> Hopefuly GG won't mangle that too badly. So, are your tiddlers structured as 
> tag-trees ? Only tiddlers that are part of the tree will show up.
> 
> Good luck
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Re: [tw5] A list of "active" templates?

Hi Diego
> Frequently, something like the following issue happens:
> 
> Ill make a template that has any tiddler tagged with "Scientist" show any 
> tiddlers tagged with "Publications" in its body. Much later, I'll decide I 
> want this functionality to work for authors as well - now I have to go back 
> and remember what template did that, etc. 
> 
> Proper naming and separation of templates helps with this of course, but I 
> was thinking if there is any way to have a tab in the tiddler info pane that 
> shows what "active" templates are actually rendering/drawing in this tiddler, 
> with a link for easy access? 

I think this is indeed mostly a matter of using a good naming convention, but 
one helpful trick is that if you open any tiddler with the tag 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate you’ll be able to click on the tag pill to get a listing 
of all the active view template segments.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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[tw5] A list of "active" templates?

Frequently, something like the following issue happens:

Ill make a template that has any tiddler tagged with "Scientist" show any 
tiddlers tagged with "Publications" in its body. Much later, I'll decide I 
want this functionality to work for authors as well - now I have to go back 
and remember what template did that, etc. 

Proper naming and separation of templates helps with this of course, but I 
was thinking if there is any way to have a tab in the tiddler info pane 
that shows what "active" templates are actually rendering/drawing in this 
tiddler, with a link for easy access? 


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Re: [tw5] Re: Filename Generation on Save Has Changed in v5.1.18?

2018-12-11 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)

Thanks, guys!

I dropped a comment in there 
, 
as well.

In the interest of backward-compatibility and more flexibility in naming 
> TiddlyWiki files, I'd like to see the old behavior restored — though I can 
> see a lot of appeal to the new behavior.
> In my case, I use custom extensions for TiddlyWiki files (.TW5 and .TWC 
> for older TiddlyWikiClassics) that allow me to handle them with my 
> preferred browsers (which aren't the same as my day-to-day default browser).
> I am, as always, all in favor of making the behavior configurable, either 
> as part of the core or as a core plugin. 
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[tw5] Re: Weird filter behavior

2018-12-11 Thread Tristan

Thanks mark, that did the trick. I was not aware that list would create a 
new "list".

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:19:44 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm confused a bit about which parts go where. It might help if you 
> exported your sample data and tiddlers.
>
> But I can point out that this:
>
> [list[!!parent]]
>
> is the same as 
>
>
> [list[!!parent]]
>
>
> Because the list operator is a generator, and does not use prior operators 
> in the filter as an input.
>
> So I think you want something equivalent to :
>
> [list[!!parent]]
>
> This of course doesn't work. So you would need to use a macro or a wikify 
> widget to put the  and the !!parent together.
>
> Possibly a macro like
>
> \define tarpar() """$(target)$!!parent"""
>
> used in a filter like
>
> [list]
>
> Good luck!
> -- Mark
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 9:43:45 AM UTC-8, Tristan wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I have another issue regarding filters in Tiddlers.
>>
>> Setup: Tiddler A transcludes tiddler B inside scope of a vars widget 
>> creating a variable "target" which holds another tiddlers name. Trying to 
>> figure out my mistake I came across this weird behavior:
>>
>> This works and gives me the value inside "name" I want (even though 
>>  is redundant here as tiddler widget sets current tiddler).
>> <$tiddler tiddler=<>>
>> <$list filter="[list[!!parent]]">
>> <$transclude field="name" />
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Now we get to the weird part... this does not work. Why does my variable 
>> not resolve here?
>> <$list filter="[list[!!parent]]">
>> <$transclude field="name" />
>> 
>>
>> In my current setting I can not use tiddler widget as this list is part 
>> of a bigger template tiddler. That is why I have a target variable in the 
>> first place.
>>
>> Any ideas why this happens? Solutions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Tristan
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Got it!

Thanks for your help Mark.

As has been said before, it's a shame this instruction now gets sort of 
lost.

Jon.

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:16:17 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the 
>> text into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed 
>> "TableOfContents" to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a 
>> partial version of the existing TableOfContents.
>>
>>
>>
> You can't just point at any tiddler. There has to be a "tree" of tagged 
> tiddlers, with the "root" tiddler at the top. Like
>
>MyTiddler
>TiddlerA (tagged with MyTiddler)
>TiddlerA-1 (tagged with TiddlerA)
>TiddlerB (tagged with MyTiddler)
>   TiddlerB-1 (tagged with TiddlerB)
>
> Hopefuly GG won't mangle that too badly. So, are your tiddlers structured 
> as tag-trees ? Only tiddlers that are part of the tree will show up.
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>
> Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the 
> text into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed 
> "TableOfContents" to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a 
> partial version of the existing TableOfContents.
>
>
>
You can't just point at any tiddler. There has to be a "tree" of tagged 
tiddlers, with the "root" tiddler at the top. Like

   MyTiddler
   TiddlerA (tagged with MyTiddler)
   TiddlerA-1 (tagged with TiddlerA)
   TiddlerB (tagged with MyTiddler)
  TiddlerB-1 (tagged with TiddlerB)

Hopefuly GG won't mangle that too badly. So, are your tiddlers structured 
as tag-trees ? Only tiddlers that are part of the tree will show up.

Good luck
-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Confused about character interpretation

2018-12-11 Thread Sjaak Adriaanse

Thanks a lot for your clarifications! I gather that in case of confusion I 
should look for a widget I can use instead of the abbreviation 
constructions built into WikiText. And there indeed are plenty of widgets! 
(https://tiddlywiki.com/#Widgets)

Greetings,
Sjaak

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Hi Mark,

I was trying not to be too critical of the information on Tiddlywiki.com as 
I am forever grateful for this tool and all the hard work that goes into 
the development by JR and everyone on here.

When you ask what is it I don't understand, I realise I'm approaching this 
from a different point of view - i.e. I'm going over to the site for some 
instructions in terms of how to do something rather than understand it.

I've seen the result which I want to reproduce in my own wiki  - so how 
do I do that?

I've got no computer/coding knowledge so I'll never really 'understand' how 
it works - I just want to copy & paste and make it happen.

Sorry if that sounds lazy, but I'm sure there are loads of people who come 
across TW with the same aims as me but get frustrated at the simple lack of 
instruction and give up.

Sometimes, all it would take would be a few more explanatory lines to point 
people in the right direction.

But again, I don't want to seem ungrateful.

Anyway, back to your original question, when I had previously pasted the 
text into my wiki, it showed my existing TOC but when I changed 
"TableOfContents" to the name of any tiddler, I was just left with a 
partial version of the existing TableOfContents.

I'll play around with it some more with what you've said.

Cheers
Jon

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:26:05 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Your question is a little vague. What exactly don't you understand?
>
> If you take the sample code and put it into your own TW file:
>
> <$macrocall
> $name="toc-tabbed-internal-nav"
> tag="TableOfContents"
> selectedTiddler="$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler"
> unselectedText="Select a topic in the table of contents. Click the 
> arrow to expand a topic."
> missingText="Missing tiddler."
> />
>
>
> but change tag="TableOfContents" to whatever your top-level tiddler is, 
> then it should form the TOC for you automatically.
>
> Just keep in mind that the TOC macros are based on a tag-tree. That means 
> each tiddler is the name of a tag which is used by the "children" tiddlers. 
> And each of those children in turn are names of tags used by their 
> "children". These relationships can be formed easily starting from your top 
> tiddler by using the "new here" option available from the drop-down menu of 
> each tiddler. The "new here" menu item will create a new tiddler tagged 
> with the name of the current tiddler.
>
> Have fun
> -- Mark
>
>
> uOn Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 2:37:29 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I've looked at tiddliwiki.com about the Tabbed Internal style for a 
>> Table of Contents but I can't understand how to actually do it.
>>
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Weird filter behavior

I'm confused a bit about which parts go where. It might help if you 
exported your sample data and tiddlers.

But I can point out that this:

[list[!!parent]]

is the same as 


[list[!!parent]]


Because the list operator is a generator, and does not use prior operators 
in the filter as an input.

So I think you want something equivalent to :

[list[!!parent]]

This of course doesn't work. So you would need to use a macro or a wikify 
widget to put the  and the !!parent together.

Possibly a macro like

\define tarpar() """$(target)$!!parent"""

used in a filter like

[list]

Good luck!
-- Mark



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 9:43:45 AM UTC-8, Tristan wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I have another issue regarding filters in Tiddlers.
>
> Setup: Tiddler A transcludes tiddler B inside scope of a vars widget 
> creating a variable "target" which holds another tiddlers name. Trying to 
> figure out my mistake I came across this weird behavior:
>
> This works and gives me the value inside "name" I want (even though 
>  is redundant here as tiddler widget sets current tiddler).
> <$tiddler tiddler=<>>
> <$list filter="[list[!!parent]]">
> <$transclude field="name" />
> 
> 
>
> Now we get to the weird part... this does not work. Why does my variable 
> not resolve here?
> <$list filter="[list[!!parent]]">
> <$transclude field="name" />
> 
>
> In my current setting I can not use tiddler widget as this list is part of 
> a bigger template tiddler. That is why I have a target variable in the 
> first place.
>
> Any ideas why this happens? Solutions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Tristan
>

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create a substory

Hi Mark,

I worked it out - 'HelloThere' works on Tiddlywiki.com along with other 
CamelCase tiddlers but replacing 'HelloThere' with the name of another 
non-CC tiddler in the code doesn't.work.

Non-CC tiddlers then require the surrounding brackets.

Well, I think that's right - seems to work anyway.

Thanks for your help
Jon

<$navigator story="MySubStoryList" history="MySubHistoryList">
> Click this link to get started: DropzoneWidget
> <$list filter="[list[MySubStoryList]]" history="MySubHistoryList">
> 
> ! <$button message="tm-close-tiddler" 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/close-button}} <$view 
> field="title"/>
> <$transclude/>
> 
> 
> 




On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:04:08 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> On TiddlyWiki.com, the first "HelloThere" is part of the example code, and 
> changing that won't do anything. You have to scroll down to the actual code 
> and then change the 2nd "HelloThere" to something else with a link (e.g. 
> [[Learning]]).
>
> Can we see the entire text of the tiddler in which you are attempting to 
> create a substory?
>
> Thanks
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:47:35 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Yes, I did try that and nothing happened.
>>
>> After your reply, I remembered one can test on Tiddlywiki.com, so I tried 
>> out things there and noticed that it only seems to work for the 
>> 'HelloThere' tiddler - if you substitute with another tiddler on the site, 
>> it doesn't appear to work there either.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jon
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:38:44 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> If you copied the code, what did you put after:
>>>
>>> Click this link to get started:
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> You need to provide a starter link that references an actual tiddler in 
>>> your TW.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:30:35 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:

 Hi,

 Sorry to come back here with another question but there just isn't 
 enough information over at tiddlywiki.com to work out how to do stuff. 

 The explanation to create a substory is as follows:
  

> This example shows how to create a sub-story within a tiddler that is 
> independent of the main story. 
> Here's the code:


 But all there is is a demonstration of it working

 I copied the code into my tiddler which did nothing. Also noticed there 
 is a MySubStoryList tiddler but that appears to be empty.

 Anyway, any help gratefully received.

 Regards
 Jon

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [Slightly OT] Jeremy speaking at CodeMesh, London 8/9th November 2018

2018-12-11 Thread Joe Armstrong

Thinking out loud here ...

I've been thinking more about tags. One problem is that tags are rather 
vague and are written in different human languages.

One way out of this might be to adopt the wikidata word definitions. For 
example, I am, unambiguously

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1691321

There are actually several Joe Armstrong's (for example, 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q712592)

These Q numbers uniquely define subjects and objects. Verbs (or predicates) 
are given by P numbers
so https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P178 means "the organisation or 
person who developed the item.

in RDF speak the triple

{https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1144644, 
  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P178, 
  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17031730}

(BTW I recommend clicking on these links and playing around - there's lots 
of interesting
data in RDF tuples and the above links are a good place to start looking)

Means "TiddlyWiki developer Jeremy Rushton"

These triples encode facts in a hopefully reasonably clear manner.

So now the N$ question - can we automatically analyse a tiddler and turn it 
into a set
of RDF tuples. If we could then we could add these to the huge databases of 
RDF tuples
and possible find stuff in a clever way.

The filter notation in the tiddlywiki reminds me very much of prolog, and I 
guess with a but of
work SPARQL queries might be possible (SPARQL is an RDF query language)

Cheers

/Joe








On Monday, 10 December 2018 17:43:01 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> One of the things that interests me a lot that the talk raised a bit--and 
> which no one seems to know how to answer is ... :-)
>
> - WHAT exactly is an SU (Semantic Unit) in TW writing (or computing 
> writing In General, for that matter)?
>
> There is a kind of rule of thumb "its maybe a paragraph"? But, of course 
> that won't quite work for the one-sentence brevity of a Nietzsche.
>
> Its obviously highly context dependent. And I doubt much of that context 
> lives on the computer itself.
>
> The idea in TW towards writing "the shortest semantic whole possible" (the 
> word "fragment" here that is thrown around has muddied waters; they are not 
> fragments so much as whole-parts-of-wholes) allows for later 
> re-combinations to form more complex semantics. 
>
> However, I think its bit of an, ultimately, moot and mute point, in the 
> sense that human meaning is often an interaction with technologies of 
> expression themselves (though no where ever fully defined by them). So its 
> an area of intuited understanding, not formal logic? On the other hand, 
> who's offering the horse which water?
>
> Josiah
>
> On Monday, 10 December 2018 12:49:14 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> Here's the video: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1UfLPK7_Q=9=PLvL2NEhYV4ZtWFBNOrApXaIoCTtj-yk7Y
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

2018-12-11 Thread S. S.

Very interesting!

Would you mind giving some examples of what this could be used for?

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[tw5] Weird filter behavior

2018-12-11 Thread Tristan

Hey guys,

I have another issue regarding filters in Tiddlers.

Setup: Tiddler A transcludes tiddler B inside scope of a vars widget 
creating a variable "target" which holds another tiddlers name. Trying to 
figure out my mistake I came across this weird behavior:

This works and gives me the value inside "name" I want (even though 
 is redundant here as tiddler widget sets current tiddler).
<$tiddler tiddler=<>>
<$list filter="[list[!!parent]]">
<$transclude field="name" />



Now we get to the weird part... this does not work. Why does my variable 
not resolve here?
<$list filter="[list[!!parent]]">
<$transclude field="name" />


In my current setting I can not use tiddler widget as this list is part of 
a bigger template tiddler. That is why I have a target variable in the 
first place.

Any ideas why this happens? Solutions?

Thanks in advance.
Tristan

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Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

A short explanation

<$navigator story="$:/SubStoryList" history="SubHistoryList">
the navigator widget: catches messages that come from the story (here 
below) and buttons. "coordinates" the messages with the corresponding story.

{{$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}}
transcluding some buttons that send messages. the navigator widget catches 
some of them, see the navigator widget doc 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#NavigatorWidget for the list of messages handled by 
it 


giving the story some space

<$list filter="[list[$:/SubStoryList]]" storyview="classic" 
template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate"/>
the list widget: creates the story - the tiddlers listed in the tiddler 
"$:/SubStoryList" - and displays them through templates, depending if a 
tiddler is in view-mode or edit-mode







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Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories



> Hi Diego, yes, in a tiddler put this:
>
> <$navigator story="$:/SubStoryList" history="SubHistoryList">
>

the navigator widget accepts more attributes that define where new tiddlers 
are opened ... at the top or bottom, if opened from within the story 
below/above the tiddler, ... look at 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#NavigatorWidget if you're interested in controlling 
that behavior, too 

>
> {{$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}}
>
> 
>
> <$list filter="[list[$:/SubStoryList]]" storyview="classic" 
> template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate"/>
>

for "storyview" you can also choose "pop" or "zoomin" ... pop animates a 
bit differently and zoomin displays only one tiddler at a time 

>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

Hi Diego, yes, in a tiddler put this:

<$navigator story="$:/SubStoryList" history="SubHistoryList">

{{$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols}}



<$list filter="[list[$:/SubStoryList]]" storyview="classic" 
template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate"/>






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Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

Hey Adam and BTC,

Could either of you post a simple example of how to use a substory like 
this?

Thanks!

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 9:11:28 AM UTC-6, AdamS wrote:
>
> Thanks, BTC!
> For some reason, I just couldn't imagine putting a button inside the 
> navigator widget call. Still learning the ropes here. Probably will be for 
> a long time yet.
> Thanks, again.
>
> Best regards,
> Adam
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 2:05:57 PM UTC, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hi AdamS,
>>
>> The main story river is framed by a navigator widget (in 
>> $:/core/ui/PageTemplate)
>>
>> You would need to frame your story with such a navigator instance, 
>> telling it the story and history titles. the button that creates new 
>> substory-tiddlers should also be contained there within:
>>
>> <$navigator story="story-list-tiddler" history="history-list-tiddler">
>>
>>
>> all the Substory here ... buttons, tiddlers
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Note that the substory then must be listed by the story-list-tiddler in 
>> order for it to work correctly
>>
>> you can have buttons outside that navigator instance, if you wrap them 
>> within another navigator with the same story and history
>>
>>
>> please ask if something isn't clear
>>
>> all the best, BTC
>>
>>

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[tw5] "non-linear personal web notebook" or "non-linear platform"

2018-12-11 Thread S. S.

*A non-linear personal web notebook*

dictionary.com  has a 9 
meanings for *linear*, and 10 examples of examples from the web for 
*non-linear*.
It shows the origin of *linear* as first recorded in 1635–45: *linear is 
from the Latin word līneāris of, belonging to lines.*

etymonline.com  shows the 
origin of non-linear as being from 1844.

Though I understand all the dictionary definitions, it occurred to me, that 
I do not understand what is being meant by the words – *non-linear* when 
referring to TiddlyWiki.

What meanings do *non-linear* have to you in the context of TiddlyWiki?


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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Your question is a little vague. What exactly don't you understand?

If you take the sample code and put it into your own TW file:

<$macrocall
$name="toc-tabbed-internal-nav"
tag="TableOfContents"
selectedTiddler="$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler"
unselectedText="Select a topic in the table of contents. Click the 
arrow to expand a topic."
missingText="Missing tiddler."
/>

but change tag="TableOfContents" to whatever your top-level tiddler is, 
then it should form the TOC for you automatically.

Just keep in mind that the TOC macros are based on a tag-tree. That means 
each tiddler is the name of a tag which is used by the "children" tiddlers. 
And each of those children in turn are names of tags used by their 
"children". These relationships can be formed easily starting from your top 
tiddler by using the "new here" option available from the drop-down menu of 
each tiddler. The "new here" menu item will create a new tiddler tagged 
with the name of the current tiddler.

Have fun
-- Mark

uOn Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 2:37:29 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I've looked at tiddliwiki.com about the Tabbed Internal style for a Table 
> of Contents but I can't understand how to actually do it.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>
> Regards
> Jon
>

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create a substory

On TiddlyWiki.com, the first "HelloThere" is part of the example code, and 
changing that won't do anything. You have to scroll down to the actual code 
and then change the 2nd "HelloThere" to something else with a link (e.g. 
[[Learning]]).

Can we see the entire text of the tiddler in which you are attempting to 
create a substory?

Thanks
-- Mark

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:47:35 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Yes, I did try that and nothing happened.
>
> After your reply, I remembered one can test on Tiddlywiki.com, so I tried 
> out things there and noticed that it only seems to work for the 
> 'HelloThere' tiddler - if you substitute with another tiddler on the site, 
> it doesn't appear to work there either.
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:38:44 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> If you copied the code, what did you put after:
>>
>> Click this link to get started:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> You need to provide a starter link that references an actual tiddler in your 
>> TW.
>>
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:30:35 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry to come back here with another question but there just isn't 
>>> enough information over at tiddlywiki.com to work out how to do stuff. 
>>>
>>> The explanation to create a substory is as follows:
>>>  
>>>
 This example shows how to create a sub-story within a tiddler that is 
 independent of the main story. 
 Here's the code:
>>>
>>>
>>> But all there is is a demonstration of it working
>>>
>>> I copied the code into my tiddler which did nothing. Also noticed there 
>>> is a MySubStoryList tiddler but that appears to be empty.
>>>
>>> Anyway, any help gratefully received.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create a substory

Hi Mark,

Yes, I did try that and nothing happened.

After your reply, I remembered one can test on Tiddlywiki.com, so I tried 
out things there and noticed that it only seems to work for the 
'HelloThere' tiddler - if you substitute with another tiddler on the site, 
it doesn't appear to work there either.

Thanks
Jon

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:38:44 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> If you copied the code, what did you put after:
>
> Click this link to get started:
>
> ?
>
> You need to provide a starter link that references an actual tiddler in your 
> TW.
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:30:35 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry to come back here with another question but there just isn't enough 
>> information over at tiddlywiki.com to work out how to do stuff. 
>>
>> The explanation to create a substory is as follows:
>>  
>>
>>> This example shows how to create a sub-story within a tiddler that is 
>>> independent of the main story. 
>>> Here's the code:
>>
>>
>> But all there is is a demonstration of it working
>>
>> I copied the code into my tiddler which did nothing. Also noticed there 
>> is a MySubStoryList tiddler but that appears to be empty.
>>
>> Anyway, any help gratefully received.
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

2018-12-11 Thread AdamS

Thanks, BTC!
For some reason, I just couldn't imagine putting a button inside the 
navigator widget call. Still learning the ropes here. Probably will be for 
a long time yet.
Thanks, again.

Best regards,
Adam

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 2:05:57 PM UTC, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi AdamS,
>
> The main story river is framed by a navigator widget (in 
> $:/core/ui/PageTemplate)
>
> You would need to frame your story with such a navigator instance, telling 
> it the story and history titles. the button that creates new 
> substory-tiddlers should also be contained there within:
>
> <$navigator story="story-list-tiddler" history="history-list-tiddler">
>
>
> all the Substory here ... buttons, tiddlers
>
>
> 
>
> Note that the substory then must be listed by the story-list-tiddler in 
> order for it to work correctly
>
> you can have buttons outside that navigator instance, if you wrap them 
> within another navigator with the same story and history
>
>
> please ask if something isn't clear
>
> all the best, BTC
>
>

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[tw5] Re: (TW5) How to create a substory

If you copied the code, what did you put after:

Click this link to get started:

?

You need to provide a starter link that references an actual tiddler in your TW.

Good luck
-- Mark


On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:30:35 AM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to come back here with another question but there just isn't enough 
> information over at tiddlywiki.com to work out how to do stuff. 
>
> The explanation to create a substory is as follows:
>  
>
>> This example shows how to create a sub-story within a tiddler that is 
>> independent of the main story. 
>> Here's the code:
>
>
> But all there is is a demonstration of it working
>
> I copied the code into my tiddler which did nothing. Also noticed there is 
> a MySubStoryList tiddler but that appears to be empty.
>
> Anyway, any help gratefully received.
>
> Regards
> Jon
>

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[tw5] (TW5) How to create a substory

Hi,

Sorry to come back here with another question but there just isn't enough 
information over at tiddlywiki.com to work out how to do stuff. 

The explanation to create a substory is as follows:
 

> This example shows how to create a sub-story within a tiddler that is 
> independent of the main story. 
> Here's the code:


But all there is is a demonstration of it working

I copied the code into my tiddler which did nothing. Also noticed there is 
a MySubStoryList tiddler but that appears to be empty.

Anyway, any help gratefully received.

Regards
Jon

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[tw5] Re: [Slightly OT] Jeremy speaking at CodeMesh, London 8/9th November 2018

2018-12-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao Tony

Fascinating comments (for me at least), thanks!

Your bullet points are interesting for all being (what I would call) 
"technical", apart from "analysis & synthesis". Its interesting how the 
word "semantic" has expanded. Though I was totally non-plused when I first 
encountered the term "semantic markup"... *WTF is that?*

In time I kinda got it. It leads to better HTML docs among other things.

In my post I was kinda riffing more about chunking of "end-text" content, 
not mechanism. Of course, any chunking is mediated by the medium/mechanism 
you are using. But the medium is not (I'm anti-McLuan) the message exactly. 
The human user always (at the moment) retains a Vorple Sword (thank god).

To try illustrate what I meant about semantics being "context dependent" 
... say I made a TW of 4,000 Tiddlers quoting Perry Mason TV series ... 
that would be for the purpose of illuminating "how common tropes of TV are 
written." 

Does my computer comprehend that or see it as semantically valid?

This bringing of "meaning for" to the TW tech seems to be a central issue 
where its flex gets very interesting--IF you understand it.

Something like that
Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 04:16:55 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Josiah,
>
> Riffing on from what you said, here is a personal reflection:
>
> A life in IT has taught me many things, once we become more expert at 
> something, some of the basics become internalised, they take on an 
> intuitive understanding rather than needing the application of intellectual 
> rules, ie their cognitive load is reduced.  The use of system 1 not System 
> 2 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow) one of my 
> favourite books this decade.
>
> What I find with TiddlyWiki, it is somewhat unstructured and thus very 
> flexible, its features allows one to make a mess as much as it allows one 
> to exercise the skills and knowledge one has acquired. I seem to have no 
> difficulty naming tiddlers and never seem to have problems renaming them 
> because I rarely if ever have any dependencies on tiddler names, or where I 
> do there is never a reason to rename them, nor do I seem to have any 
> difficulties intuitively knowing exactly when to divide the content in 
> anyway, that is, I seem to have no difficulty in understanding a  *SU 
> (Semantic Unit) in TW writing (or computing writing In General, for that 
> matter)*? The problem is this is already in my system 1 and  am often 
> finding myself trying to reverse engineer this knowledge, so I can guide 
> others towards using the same methods and rules. Sometimes I want to 
> understand what underlies my intuition, to build a conceptual model, and 
> sometimes extend its power.
>
> I would speculate however my grasp of Semantic Units is based on the 
> lessons of the following disciplines
>
>- Structured software design and programming
>- Object oriented design
>- Analysis and Synthesis
>- Database design and "normalisation"
>- Alternate database models (Structured, Network, Relational etc...)
>- Modularity and blackbox design principals
>
> TiddlyWiki allows the democratisation of knowledge and application of 
> algorithms commonly found in the above. But there are few rules.
>
> I think we may need to obtain or construct a new discipline, that draws on 
> the above disciplines (and others) selectively, such that we can pass to 
> those seeking to apply knowledge and algorithms on top of our   "non-linear 
> personal web notebook" or our "non-linear platform".
>
> My use of TiddlyWiki continues to evolve rapidly, but I believe this is in 
> part due to my understanding of the underlying concepts and patterns 
> acquired in a life as a Information Technology professional. The question 
> is how can we maximise what others, without such experience can do? or the 
> exchange of such concepts between those with the expertise to others with 
> similar needs.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:43:01 AM UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> One of the things that interests me a lot that the talk raised a bit--and 
>> which no one seems to know how to answer is ... :-)
>>
>> - WHAT exactly is an SU (Semantic Unit) in TW writing (or computing 
>> writing In General, for that matter)?
>>
>> There is a kind of rule of thumb "its maybe a paragraph"? But, of course 
>> that won't quite work for the one-sentence brevity of a Nietzsche.
>>
>> Its obviously highly context dependent. And I doubt much of that context 
>> lives on the computer itself.
>>
>> The idea in TW towards writing "the shortest semantic whole possible" 
>> (the word "fragment" here that is thrown around has muddied waters; they 
>> are not fragments so much as whole-parts-of-wholes) allows for later 
>> re-combinations to form more complex semantics. 
>>
>> However, I think its bit of an, ultimately, moot and mute point, in the 
>> sense that human meaning is often an interaction with

Re: [tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

Hi AdamS,

The main story river is framed by a navigator widget (in 
$:/core/ui/PageTemplate)

You would need to frame your story with such a navigator instance, telling 
it the story and history titles. the button that creates new 
substory-tiddlers should also be contained there within:

<$navigator story="story-list-tiddler" history="history-list-tiddler">


all the Substory here ... buttons, tiddlers




Note that the substory then must be listed by the story-list-tiddler in 
order for it to work correctly

you can have buttons outside that navigator instance, if you wrap them 
within another navigator with the same story and history


please ask if something isn't clear

all the best, BTC

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[tw5] Re: CSS question

OK, now I understand, thanks for taking your time to help, Jed. Much 
appreciated!

On a side note, it would be great if the zoomin storyview rendered all CSS 
parameters (like position) as expected out of the box.

Thanks again,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:07:14 UTC, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I don't know your situation, but these are the generic steps on 
> tiddlywiki.com that will show you what to do there, you will have to 
> modify them to your situation.
>
> Make a tiddler with this in the text field:
>
> 
> Bloop
> 
>
> give that tiddler the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate
>
> it should now be floating above everything else at the top of the screen, 
> regardless of what other tiddlers are open or what story view you are using.
>
> Change the contents of that tiddler to change whatever you want to 
> actually be displayed, add or remove the tag to make it visible or not.
>

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[tw5] Re: CSS question

I don't know your situation, but these are the generic steps on 
tiddlywiki.com that will show you what to do there, you will have to modify 
them to your situation.

Make a tiddler with this in the text field:


Bloop


give that tiddler the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate

it should now be floating above everything else at the top of the screen, 
regardless of what other tiddlers are open or what story view you are using.

Change the contents of that tiddler to change whatever you want to actually 
be displayed, add or remove the tag to make it visible or not.

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[tw5] Re: CSS question


>
> To make it visible add the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate and it will appear the 
> way you want it to. Adding or removing that tag will toggle its visibility.
>

I'm not quite sure I understand. When I tag a tiddler (be it the one with 
the div or my CSS styles tiddler) all I get is a transclusion of those 
tiddlers' content (text) on top of what would normally be rendered through 
TiddlyWiki's built-in CSS classes called html body.tc-body. The div doesn't 
stick any other way after adding this tag the way I did.

Thanks,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:48:51 UTC, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Using it in the zoomin story view is a very important piece of information 
> here.
>
> To make it visible add the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate and it will appear the 
> way you want it to. Adding or removing that tag will toggle its visibility.
>

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[tw5] Re: CSS question

Using it in the zoomin story view is a very important piece of information 
here.

To make it visible add the tag $:/tags/PageTemplate and it will appear the 
way you want it to. Adding or removing that tag will toggle its visibility.

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[tw5] Re: CSS question

Thanks Jed.

I can see that this style works for me as well on TiddlyWiki.com but it 
stopped working when I changed the storyview from 'classic' to 'zoomin' (I 
use the latter in my personal TW), so this seems to be the issue.

I should mention that removing the transition property and adding the depth 
(z-index) value of 999 had no effect.

It seems to me that patching the 'zoomin' storyview-related tiddler(s) 
could enable this functionality, unless there's something less 
'destructive' to be tried first, which I'm not aware of.

Thanks,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:34:16 UTC, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> That is odd.
>
> I went onto tiddlywiki.com, created a new tiddler and put this in the 
> text field:
>
>
> 
> Bloop
> 
>
> and the div was floating at the top of the view port as expected. So the 
> concept should work and the error would be something else.
>
> I suspect that the problem may be from z-sorting. The div will be hidden 
> behind some other tiddlers, I am not sure how the z order is set. Try 
> adding z-index:999; to the style and see if the problem remains.
>
> If that doesn't fix it then it may be from whatever the 
> transition-duration is controlling, I have had lots of trouble with css 
> transitions working inconsistently.
>

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[tw5] Create New Tiddler and Substories

2018-12-11 Thread AdamS

Hi folks. I'm trying to create a new layout interface but am running into a 
problem fairly early on. I have created some substories, but I can't figure 
out how to create new tiddlers in those substories. If I click on create 
new tiddler, I just end up adding it to the main story river, which I want 
to eliminate. Any ideas of how to approach this?

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[tw5] Re: CSS question

That is odd.

I went onto tiddlywiki.com, created a new tiddler and put this in the text 
field:



Bloop


and the div was floating at the top of the view port as expected. So the 
concept should work and the error would be something else.

I suspect that the problem may be from z-sorting. The div will be hidden 
behind some other tiddlers, I am not sure how the z order is set. Try 
adding z-index:999; to the style and see if the problem remains.

If that doesn't fix it then it may be from whatever the transition-duration 
is controlling, I have had lots of trouble with css transitions working 
inconsistently.

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[tw5] Re: CSS question

Thanks for the heads up, Jed. Typo fixed, but the issue remains.

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:23:57 UTC, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> It looks like a typo. You missed a semicolon (;) after position: fixed;
>
> When I added that the style worked on tiddlywiki.com
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[tw5] Re: CSS question

It looks like a typo. You missed a semicolon (;) after position: fixed;

When I added that the style worked on tiddlywiki.com

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[tw5] CSS question

Hello,

Apologies if this is too much of an off-topic question. I'm trying to make 
a div box stick to a position within the viewport (the visible part of the 
window) irrespective of scroll position so that it will always be visible. 
I know that I should use position: fixed but this only makes the div stick 
to the top of the tiddler frame. The div stays at the top of the tiddler 
frame (becomes invisible) when the tiddler frame is scrolled to the bottom 
instead of sticking to the top of the viewport.

Is there anything in the core CSS that keeps overriding what I'm trying to 
achieve?

Here's my CSS:

position: fixed
top: 0;
left: 200px;
width: 300px;
height: 100px;
background-color: darkred;
color: white;
text-align: center;
padding: 10px;
border: none;
border-radius: 2px;
box-shadow: 10px 15px 30px grey;
transition-duration: 0.4s;

Thanks for your suggestions!

Best regards,
Hubert

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[tw5] (TW5) How to create Tabbed Internal TOC

Hi, 

I've looked at tiddliwiki.com about the Tabbed Internal style for a Table 
of Contents but I can't see how to actually do it.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Regards
Jon

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