[tw5] Re: Saying a thank you for codemirror the editor

[Ste]

Glad you found use full things. The main discussion place is now at 
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ where I'm sure the author will appreciate your 
thanks and you might get more feedback on that F11 thing :)

On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:23:50 UTC zsigmond@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello Guys!
>
> I just wanted to say thank you for the codemirror plugin - found it 
> searching through messages in this group.
>
> At last this could save me from always ending up with a lots of 
> unorganized notes inside my GUI text editor and saving into txt files 
> because it was tedious to edit plain text in the browser without basic text 
> manipulation functionalities.
>
> I propose to make this editor included in the default new TiddlyWiki files 
> or at least make strong references that people might need to add this as 
> well... I spent this day by looking for a solution on multiline editing and 
> finding the ready made plugin codemirror made my day!
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/
>
> Thank you!
> Laci
>
> ps.: the F11 fullscreen on active the editor doesnt work. 
>

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[tw5] Re: A very BASIC pie-charting service

[Ste]

Good stuff! 

On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 05:33:26 UTC+1 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> Much prettier pie-charts can be created with javascript and CSS.
>
> This is for older folk like me who like BASIC programming.
>
> Enter the following in a tiddler in some TiddlyWiki:
> *(ignore the triple-backticks; they are just to format the code correctly 
> for TalkTiddlyWiki)*
>
> ```
> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/sample_programs/Pie%20Chart%20Service.prod.run?SCREEN=17=12,36,13,12,25,42,30,26,20,49,;
>  
> style="width:250px;height:250px;"> 
> ```
>
> More details in this blog entry. 
> 
>
> *(By the way, should you actually find this thing useful and you actually 
> like rough-around-the-edges old-school-charm, do save the HTML file and 
> save it where you need it, because my hosted file might not be 
> reliable/stable as a "service".)*
>

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[tw5] Re: ApexCharts plugin released

[Ste]

You are correct. The most awesome Charlie V does not get on with the talk 
site :(, and posts here are copied there, but there is no ability to reply 
to Google groups posts in talk. Currently the talk site is the official and 
more active community. 
On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 14:16:07 UTC+1 andrewg_oz wrote:

> Thanks. My understanding is that some people don't like the talk site and 
> that messages here are copied there too.
>
> I'll start another thread over there, but before I go:
>
> I've just updated my wiki with a plugin for Chart.js!
>
> On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 12:29:45 am UTC+8 Ste wrote:
>
>> Thats awsome. Thanks for sharing. You should get more feedback posting to 
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org
>> Which is where people are active. 
>> On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 14:52:05 UTC+1 andrewg_oz wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> For a while now I've been working on a plugin to integrate the 
>>> ApexCharts <https://apexcharts.com/> charting library with TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> With help and advice from others - thank you - I've now got it working 
>>> nicely and integrating quite well with TiddlyWiki functions like action 
>>> widgets.
>>>
>>> Chart data can be built from tiddler fields using standard TiddlyWiki 
>>> widgets such as the ListWidget.
>>>
>>> My plugin can be found on my TiddlyWiki:
>>>
>>> http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/tiddlywiki/
>>>
>>> I hope this is useful.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: ApexCharts plugin released

[Ste]

Thats awsome. Thanks for sharing. You should get more feedback posting to 
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org
Which is where people are active. 
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 14:52:05 UTC+1 andrewg_oz wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For a while now I've been working on a plugin to integrate the ApexCharts 
>  charting library with TiddlyWiki.
>
> With help and advice from others - thank you - I've now got it working 
> nicely and integrating quite well with TiddlyWiki functions like action 
> widgets.
>
> Chart data can be built from tiddler fields using standard TiddlyWiki 
> widgets such as the ListWidget.
>
> My plugin can be found on my TiddlyWiki:
>
> http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/tiddlywiki/
>
> I hope this is useful.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew
>

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[tw5] Re: Hi...

[Ste]

Welcome to the tiddly verse! 
You ask some big questions! 
Tiddlywiki is a personnel notebook. You can download your very own from 
tiddlywiki.com 

>From there it's a question of what you want to do with it. It's a bit like 
Excel, but for words. 
You can use Excel to do some sums or you can use it to track complex data 
in pretty colours. 
TW is similarly flexible. 

There are lots of plugins which people have written to extend the use so 
Gannt charts, project management, D games, textbooks, ebooks and more! 

if i need help or inspiration https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is the more 
active place to get questions answered. 



On Saturday, 26 November 2022 at 05:20:30 UTC Edgar Gonzalez wrote:

> Can you tell me about Tiddlywiki, what is it used for? I made my account 
> here and honestly I have never known what it is for and what can be done 
> here.
>

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[tw5] Re: Using GraphViz and Macro recursion to get tiddler inclusions diagram

[Ste]

Thanks! 
On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 13:19:53 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Github:  https://github.com/chanilino/tw5viz
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 3:35:56 AM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>
>>
>> Looks good. 
>> What's the link for that plugij? 
>> On Monday, 22 August 2022 at 05:31:46 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Previously reported problem with Tidgraph not rendering correctly in 
>>> open windows and in modals does not seem to be an issue with Viz (for 
>>> GraphViz) plugin.
>>>
>>> Since I just want a diagram (without tiddler links) and this works with 
>>> windows, I'll be using this to report on anything I want to visualize.
>>>
>>> Tiddler A includes Tiddler B.  Tiddler B includes Tiddler C.
>>> Tiddler A includes Tiddler C.
>>>
>>> Diagram works.  Cool.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-08-22 1.26.23 AM.png]
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Using GraphViz and Macro recursion to get tiddler inclusions diagram

[Ste]

Looks good. 
What's the link for that plugij? 
On Monday, 22 August 2022 at 05:31:46 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Previously reported problem with Tidgraph not rendering correctly in open 
> windows and in modals does not seem to be an issue with Viz (for GraphViz) 
> plugin.
>
> Since I just want a diagram (without tiddler links) and this works with 
> windows, I'll be using this to report on anything I want to visualize.
>
> Tiddler A includes Tiddler B.  Tiddler B includes Tiddler C.
> Tiddler A includes Tiddler C.
>
> Diagram works.  Cool.
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-08-22 1.26.23 AM.png]
>

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[tw5] Re: Help.

[Ste]

it would probably help id you provided some conext.  What action causes 
this?
As a starting point it is probably worth disablig all ypur plugins and 
switiching them on one by oneto see if they are the cause.
Most of the duscussuon is at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org so proabaly worth 
posting there as well.
hopefully you will get someone more knowlegable than me!

On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 19:44:25 UTC+1 ser...@gmail.com wrote:

>

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[tw5] Re: Populating title from tiddly fields?

[Ste]

Welcome to TW
I think Shiraz https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/ has tools for 
referencing and citations.
You may get more response if you join us over on the discourse group,
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

Ste

On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 06:48:57 UTC Edoardo Milan wrote:

> Hi! 
>
> First post in the community, thrilled! :) Discovering TW just now and very 
> excited about it, thanks to everybody who's making it possible.
>
> I'm using tiddlydesktop with 5.1.22.
>
> I'd like to use TW to write down citations from books, and I would be 
> specifying book's author and title and citation's page in tiddly fields (I 
> was thinking to automatically generate the fields with buttons, through 
> tm-new-tiddler 
> or ActionCreateTiddlerWidget).
>
> So: ideally my tiddly title would then automatically be generated as 
> {{author}}, {{title}}: {{pagenumber}} when I save my tiddly. Would this be 
> possible some way? I have been looking into transclusion, more buttons, 
> action widgets and so on but couldn't really come to a solution.
>
> Another workflow idea would be to write the citations in "subtiddlies" 
> stemming from a book "parent tiddly" which would already contain author and 
> title information, so that also those fields could get automatically filled 
> in the citation subtiddly.
>
> Any idea or help in how to accomplish this? I'm discovering TiddlyWiki 
> just now and not a developer so struggling a bit with these issues!!
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Edoardo
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki + Google Spreasheets. I want to show you my newer finished work

[Ste]

Looking realy good!

On Sunday, 2 January 2022 at 10:31:53 UTC Siniy-Kit wrote:

> Hi! I make small on-line stores on Tiddlywiki. I was not able to finish my 
> last work, so i make a little demo from it 
> https://heeg.ru/shop2_3.html?id=16jpYS8egNJuLA8HyS-Um6wuwC9A5eFl-IKykIzZB92Y
>
> I think that this demo will be useful for people, who want convert their 
> boring spreadsheets to nice interactive Tiddlywiki page or  very fast 
> static cut site   https://heeg.ru/carimages/static/ 
> with checkboxes and images from google drive or any hosting.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: BASIC Anywhere Machine: focusing on ability to configure ...

[Ste]

Awesome stuff! 

On Monday, 3 January 2022 at 03:25:50 UTC cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Try the latest version of BASIC Anywhere Machine 
> .
>
> Two things on my mind: configuring wwwBasic, and configuring the IDE (in 
> particular, the TiddlyWiki CodeMirror plugin.)
>
> Although I'm not crazy about altering either the wwwbasic.js code or the 
> CodeMirror plugin (makes upgrades to new versions of these a little bit 
> complicated), my desire to juice up BASIC Anywhere Machine with extras is 
> just too tempting.
>
> My first foray was to add a few new string functions to the wwwbasic 
> interpreter: now$, time$, date$.
>
> Before doing more to wwwbasic, I decided to tackle configuration options 
> for the IDE (CodeMirror plugin stuff.)
>
> Here's what I have so far (including customized styling for selected text):
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-01-02 9.25.17 PM - Display 2.png]
>

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[tw5] Re: An all-in-one-file and portable BASIC language programming IDE + .BAS programs

[Ste]

It's looking impressive! 

So I can write best program ever? 

10 Print"Tiddlywiki is Awsome"
20 goto 10 

??!!

On Sunday, 28 November 2021 at 22:26:26 UTC cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> See the first working version in action:  TiddlyWiki for BASIC Programming 
> 
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:42:48 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> " *if* " work ?  Ugh:  "*is* work"
>>
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:41:27 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> All it can do at the moment if work with one .BAS tiddler (editing and 
>>> running).
>>>
>>> Now to get all of the other menus and menu items setup ...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-11-28 3.31.09 PM.png]
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: New Release Banner Super-speedy Competition for v5.2.1

[Ste]

Yay for trig!!! 
Who doesn't love triangles 

On Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 17:36:36 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> As usual, I’d like to hold a competition to design the banner image that 
> is shown on the splash screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>
> The unusual thing this time around is that we have very limited time. Due 
> to a serious bug introduced by the latest version of Chrome we are trying 
> to get v5.2.1 released as soon as possible, perhaps as soon as this weekend.
>
> With that in mind, we’ll have to run the competition slightly differently 
> this time:
>
>- Entries will be accepted until Friday morning at 8am UK time
>- To speed things up, my plan is that I should choose the winning 
>image (I’m open to discussion here!)
>
> The artwork should reflect some of the changes in the new version. I’ve 
> updated the release note for the prerelease but at this point the 
> documentation for some of the new features is not complete.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> The other rules/guidelines for the competition are:
>
>- The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>- The image must be a PNG or JPEG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>- The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text 
>“What’s new in 5.2.1” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>- The image need not include the word “TiddlyWiki”. The banner image 
>is only used in contexts where it is clear that it is about TiddlyWiki
>- Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a 
>runner-up in a previous competition
>- Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>- Please give lots of feedback here to encourage the artists
>
> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>
> v5.2.0 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/eccIEHZoxsI/m/JpxoQdZrAwAJ
> v5.1.23 - https://groups.google.com/g/
> tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
> v5.1.22 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
> v5.1.21 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>
> The Chrome bug I was referring to is discussed here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/6254
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/6261
>
> Plans for the v5.2.1 release are being discussed here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/6259
>
> Best wishes and many thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Upgrade hint

[Ste]

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading 

I know it's not that obvious from the front page AND its not the first 
tiddler that pops up when you search 'uograde' AND you won't find it 
searching for update but :D

On Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 15:50:42 UTC peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> What a cool upgrade - version 5.2  - many thanks for all the work that 
> went into it. i am an enthusiastic user of the offline-version (HTML-only) 
> of TW for my personal note keeping and  I try to keep it as pure as 
> possible. Despite my engineering background I would like not to bother with 
> any technical details here. Therefore I was looking for a "foolproof" 
> upgrade hint (like for other software). There is - but I had to google for 
> it. No link included in the extensive documentation here 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/ How to start is included, but not how to upgrade. 
> Please amend, thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: 3D file preview?

[Ste]

No worries. :) just wondering... And giving the thread a bump! 


On Monday, 20 September 2021 at 13:10:03 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:

> I'm afraid I haven't had any time to really work on this, and I don't 
> anticipate getting more free time until after Christmas.
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 6:46:56 PM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>
>> Did you make any progress on this Alex? 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 4:44:57 PM UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>
>>> With the lazy-load tiddler on node-js supporting larger collections of 
>>> files it seems like a potentially very useful tool.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:40:38 PM UTC-3 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Including 3d files in a wiki is a really neat idea. Man, I wish I had 
>>>> more time. Replaying so I can find the thread later. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Joshua Fontany
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:58:15 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is also this as part of the plugin:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Frboue%2FThree.js%2FLib%2FLoaders%2FSTLLoader.js
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 21:15:56 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There there needs to be what, a display widget and and a parser?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:57:39 PM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is this :
>>>>>>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2Fintroduction 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which has, I think, the ability to display STL files. 
>>>>>>> It's been on my to do list to look at and have a go but... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 16:30:00 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd really like to be able to include STL files in my tiddlywiki, 
>>>>>>>> but actually supporting a new file type is a bit beyond me. It seems 
>>>>>>>> like 
>>>>>>>> it would be entirely doable using threejs, but a bit more challenging 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> make it happen "automatically" so that tiddlywiki doesn't try to show 
>>>>>>>> me 
>>>>>>>> several MB text files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on how that could be accomplished? Something to do 
>>>>>>>> with mime type detection?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: 3D file preview?

[Ste]

Did you make any progress on this Alex? 

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 4:44:57 PM UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:

> With the lazy-load tiddler on node-js supporting larger collections of 
> files it seems like a potentially very useful tool.
>
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:40:38 PM UTC-3 joshua@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Including 3d files in a wiki is a really neat idea. Man, I wish I had 
>> more time. Replaying so I can find the thread later. ;)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:58:15 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> There is also this as part of the plugin:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Frboue%2FThree.js%2FLib%2FLoaders%2FSTLLoader.js
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 21:15:56 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>> There there needs to be what, a display widget and and a parser?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:57:39 PM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is this :
>>>>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2Fintroduction 
>>>>>
>>>>> Which has, I think, the ability to display STL files. 
>>>>> It's been on my to do list to look at and have a go but... 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 16:30:00 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd really like to be able to include STL files in my tiddlywiki, but 
>>>>>> actually supporting a new file type is a bit beyond me. It seems like it 
>>>>>> would be entirely doable using threejs, but a bit more challenging to 
>>>>>> make 
>>>>>> it happen "automatically" so that tiddlywiki doesn't try to show me 
>>>>>> several 
>>>>>> MB text files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts on how that could be accomplished? Something to do with 
>>>>>> mime type detection?
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Refnotes Plugin: New release 1.7.0

[Ste]

Amazing stuff as ever! 

On Friday, 13 August 2021 at 18:22:13 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> *Refnotes plugin has got a new update 1.7.0 on Tiddlywiki 5.2.0p*
>
> Now you can copy a bibtex entry from a webpage like Google Scholar and 
> paste (from clipboard) it in the dedicated drop zone!
> You can even drag and drop a portion of text from another doc, page, ... 
> no need to import or drag files! String data can be dropped or pasted!
> See attached video!
>
> Special thanks go to Saq Imtiaz for his wonderful contributions to 
> Tiddlywiki core! He made this possible in TW 5.2.0
>
>
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Refnotes
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Refnotes
>
> *Release 1.7.0*
>
>
>- *Aug 13th, 2021*
>- [NEW] dedicated dropzone for importing bibtex entry as string (paste 
>from clipboard)
>- [NEW] upgraded to TW 5.2.0 prerelease
>
>
>
> If you like it
>
>
>- test and send feedback
>- star it at GitHub: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Refnotes
>
>
>
> References
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/qgss_exy97g/m/L99utjKEBQAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/HQHHkL37oUs/m/H1G-kOAwAQAJ
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Change link syntax [[text|link]] -> [[link|text]] for .md files stored by TW on Node.js

[Ste]

Bumping in the hope someone clever sees it.

On Friday, 13 August 2021 at 18:20:25 UTC+1 Shareda wrote:

> Hello! I need to unify links in my tiddlers stored in md files (TW on 
> Node.js) with external storage of markdown files (Obsidian vault). Now I 
> use default TiddlyWiki 5.1.23 system tiddlers an settings.
>
> I've set  $:/config/FileSystemExtensions 
>   to .md 
> and got fine .md files containing text of my tiddlers. But now I need to 
> find a way to convert the link syntax from [[text|link]] to [[link|text]] 
> before saving md files. And convert it back when read md files to my 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> Please, help me to find a way to do so! 
>
> There is an interesting line in boot.js:
>
> $tw.utils.registerFileType("text/markdown","utf8",[".md",".markdown"],{deserializerType:"text/x-markdown"});
>   
>
> Maybe I need some custom "deserializer"? 
> I don't understand where and what should I do :^)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Speech To Text v1.0.6 Released - Piping of Text into inputs and textareas

[Ste]

That is very cool!

On Wednesday, 18 August 2021 at 08:53:25 UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:

> The plugin works best on Chrome/Chromium browsers and using the NodeJs 
> configuration
>
> file:/// urls don't keep the permission for microphone access but https:// 
> urls do. The NodeJs configuration by default serves the wiki at 
> https://127.0.0.1:8080 and Chrome/Chromium can grant permissions to 
> microphone access permanently to this url
>
> If you have questions how to set up a Wiki under NodeJs, please ask and we 
> can help you here
>
> Best wishes,
> Simon
>
> BurningTreeC schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. August 2021 um 08:18:13 UTC+2:
>
>> I hope we can get some feedback from users if there are any
>>
>> BurningTreeC schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2021 um 17:31:59 UTC+2:
>>
>>>
>>> Finn Lancaster and I (Simon Huber alias BurningTreeC) are proud to 
>>> announce the release of v1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin 
>>> 
>>>
>>> It comes with the following changes and additions
>>>
>>>
>>>- Insertion of text into inputs and textareas (including CodeMirror) 
>>>using the "Ok Wiki insert" command
>>>- More precise configuration of commands in your own language
>>>- Bug fixes, especially RSOD when trying to start recording while 
>>>it's already running
>>>- Configuration option to start recording automatically when the 
>>>wiki starts up
>>>- Configuration option for your own commands to stop listening
>>>- Configuration option for your own commands to insert text into 
>>>inputs and textareas
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let us know how you like this version of the plugin
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Timely help needed

[Ste]

That's hit the spot! 
I can now sync the deadline date with the end date of the task. 
I've even made myself a macro to change a date from all those numbers to 
something a bit more readable! 
Heavily inspired (copy-pasted.) from Eric's macro in the thread linked 
above. 
I'm sure the button can work better as it needs two presses! I know, TWO!!! 
or can the button be removed entirely?! 


\define readable_time()
\whitespace trim 

<$vars   ={{{ [split[]first[4]join[]] }}}>
<$vars mm={{{ [split[]first[6]last[2]join[]]  }}}>
<$vars dd={{{ [split[]first[8]last[2]join[]]  }}}>
<$vars hh={{{ [split[]first[10]last[2]join[]] }}}>
<$varsmin={{{ [split[]first[12]last[2]join[]] }}}>

<$vars   mm={{{ [pad[2]] }}} dd={{{ [pad[2]] }}} hh={{{ 
[pad[2]] }}} min={{{ [pad[2]] }}}> {{{ 
[addsuffix[-]addsuffixaddsuffix[-]addsuffixaddsuffix[ at 
]addsuffixaddsuffix[:]addsuffix] }}} \end

And the button 

<$button> Set Deadline 
<$vars time={{ ORIGIN}} offset="-07:29">
<$wikify name="newtime" text=<>> 
<$action-setfield timeline.end=<> /> 
<$action-setfield timeline.start=<> />

 
<$vars time={{!!timeline.end}}> <$wikify name="readtime" 
text=<>> <$action-setfield deadline=<> />
 
 
 

On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 1:55:04 PM UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Thanks. I'll delve into those a bit more next week when I'm at a pc. 
> Now that I've looked I remember seeing the +1hour thread and thinking that 
> would be useful! 
> Just trying to automate things so the deadline tiddler auto updates from 
> the end date of the assignment for example. 
> Or setup to self populate week numbers from a given start date. 
> Ste
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 12:59:50 AM UTC+1 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> i have a similar setup , not sure if this helps , but check this thread  
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/OUJlcbbK5v0/m/Wpc2SWMWAgAJ?hl=en
>>   
>>
>> for adding a day , i don't know how to do it , however i got help to add 
>> an hour in this thread
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/uB1RxGj2qz0/m/QYjk6VO_AwAJ?hl=en 
>>   .. i think it will probably be easy to modify the 1 hour value to 24 to 
>> achieve what you want
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:38:01 AM UTC+2 Ste wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For context this is what I'm working on:
>>> https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/Assesment%20Schedule.html
>>> On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 18:42:18 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello wonderful people's. 
>>>> I need help with time. 
>>>> I am sure there have been discussions about this but alas I can't seem 
>>>> to find what I'm looking for. Google groups. You know how it is! 
>>>>
>>>> I have a date in a field. I would like to use this same date in another 
>>>> tiddler, but it needs to be plain text so it can be used by the vis.js 
>>>> time 
>>>> line plugin.. 
>>>>
>>>> I'd also like to be able to add/ subtract days and have it back into a 
>>>> form the plugin can use. 
>>>>
>>>> I'd like a date picker to return the same date in different formats to 
>>>> different fields, or be able to convert an existing date into a different 
>>>> format, and for it to be useable by the time line or the timely calender. 
>>>>
>>>> So not much really... 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time :)
>>>>
>>>> Ste 
>>>>
>>>> Date picker and timeline 
>>>> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
>>>>
>>>> Timely 
>>>> https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Timely help needed

[Ste]

Thanks. I'll delve into those a bit more next week when I'm at a pc. 
Now that I've looked I remember seeing the +1hour thread and thinking that 
would be useful! 
Just trying to automate things so the deadline tiddler auto updates from 
the end date of the assignment for example. 
Or setup to self populate week numbers from a given start date. 
Ste



On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 12:59:50 AM UTC+1 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> i have a similar setup , not sure if this helps , but check this thread  
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/OUJlcbbK5v0/m/Wpc2SWMWAgAJ?hl=en  
>
> for adding a day , i don't know how to do it , however i got help to add 
> an hour in this thread
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/uB1RxGj2qz0/m/QYjk6VO_AwAJ?hl=en 
>   .. i think it will probably be easy to modify the 1 hour value to 24 to 
> achieve what you want
>
>
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:38:01 AM UTC+2 Ste wrote:
>
>>
>> For context this is what I'm working on:
>> https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/Assesment%20Schedule.html
>> On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 18:42:18 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello wonderful people's. 
>>> I need help with time. 
>>> I am sure there have been discussions about this but alas I can't seem 
>>> to find what I'm looking for. Google groups. You know how it is! 
>>>
>>> I have a date in a field. I would like to use this same date in another 
>>> tiddler, but it needs to be plain text so it can be used by the vis.js time 
>>> line plugin.. 
>>>
>>> I'd also like to be able to add/ subtract days and have it back into a 
>>> form the plugin can use. 
>>>
>>> I'd like a date picker to return the same date in different formats to 
>>> different fields, or be able to convert an existing date into a different 
>>> format, and for it to be useable by the time line or the timely calender. 
>>>
>>> So not much really... 
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time :)
>>>
>>> Ste 
>>>
>>> Date picker and timeline 
>>> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
>>>
>>> Timely 
>>> https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Timely help needed

[Ste]

For context this is what I'm working on:
https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/Assesment%20Schedule.html
On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 18:42:18 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

>
> Hello wonderful people's. 
> I need help with time. 
> I am sure there have been discussions about this but alas I can't seem to 
> find what I'm looking for. Google groups. You know how it is! 
>
> I have a date in a field. I would like to use this same date in another 
> tiddler, but it needs to be plain text so it can be used by the vis.js time 
> line plugin.. 
>
> I'd also like to be able to add/ subtract days and have it back into a 
> form the plugin can use. 
>
> I'd like a date picker to return the same date in different formats to 
> different fields, or be able to convert an existing date into a different 
> format, and for it to be useable by the time line or the timely calender. 
>
> So not much really... 
>
> Thanks for your time :)
>
> Ste 
>
> Date picker and timeline 
> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
>
> Timely 
> https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Timely help needed

[Ste]

Hello wonderful people's. 
I need help with time. 
I am sure there have been discussions about this but alas I can't seem to 
find what I'm looking for. Google groups. You know how it is! 

I have a date in a field. I would like to use this same date in another 
tiddler, but it needs to be plain text so it can be used by the vis.js time 
line plugin.. 

I'd also like to be able to add/ subtract days and have it back into a form 
the plugin can use. 

I'd like a date picker to return the same date in different formats to 
different fields, or be able to convert an existing date into a different 
format, and for it to be useable by the time line or the timely calender. 

So not much really... 

Thanks for your time :)

Ste 

Date picker and timeline 
http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/

Timely 
https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html 


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[tw5] Re: 3D file preview?

[Ste]

There is also this as part of the plugin:

http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Frboue%2FThree.js%2FLib%2FLoaders%2FSTLLoader.js

On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 21:15:56 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:

> There there needs to be what, a display widget and and a parser?
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:57:39 PM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>
>> There is this :
>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2Fintroduction 
>>
>> Which has, I think, the ability to display STL files. 
>> It's been on my to do list to look at and have a go but... 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 16:30:00 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>
>>> I'd really like to be able to include STL files in my tiddlywiki, but 
>>> actually supporting a new file type is a bit beyond me. It seems like it 
>>> would be entirely doable using threejs, but a bit more challenging to make 
>>> it happen "automatically" so that tiddlywiki doesn't try to show me several 
>>> MB text files.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on how that could be accomplished? Something to do with 
>>> mime type detection?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: 3D file preview?

[Ste]

Looking at the demos on that site, they all seem to be for .json files :(

But,

There is the .js program that sets up the scene, the lights etc.

http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2FDemos%2Fhorse.js

There is the actual data file, in our case this would be the stl:

http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2FTests%2Fmodels%2Fanimated%2Fhorse.json

and then the tiddler containing the widget:

http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2FDemos%2Fhorse

So I THINK it just needs something like 
this? 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11060261/what-is-the-preferred-method-for-loading-stl-files-in-three-js

but my brain melted at that point.

Would

 https://github.com/tonylukasavage/jsstl 

be any help/ use?

Finally this, just because it looks shiny: 

https://threejs.org/examples/#webgl_loader_stl

Any big brains out there any insight?

Here is a simple cube as STL if anyone can make this magic happen!





On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 21:15:56 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:

> There there needs to be what, a display widget and and a parser?
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:57:39 PM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>
>> There is this :
>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2Fintroduction 
>>
>> Which has, I think, the ability to display STL files. 
>> It's been on my to do list to look at and have a go but... 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 16:30:00 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>
>>> I'd really like to be able to include STL files in my tiddlywiki, but 
>>> actually supporting a new file type is a bit beyond me. It seems like it 
>>> would be entirely doable using threejs, but a bit more challenging to make 
>>> it happen "automatically" so that tiddlywiki doesn't try to show me several 
>>> MB text files.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on how that could be accomplished? Something to do with 
>>> mime type detection?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: 3D file preview?

[Ste]

There is this :
http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2Fintroduction 

Which has, I think, the ability to display STL files. 
It's been on my to do list to look at and have a go but... 



On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 16:30:00 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:

> I'd really like to be able to include STL files in my tiddlywiki, but 
> actually supporting a new file type is a bit beyond me. It seems like it 
> would be entirely doable using threejs, but a bit more challenging to make 
> it happen "automatically" so that tiddlywiki doesn't try to show me several 
> MB text files.
>
> Any thoughts on how that could be accomplished? Something to do with mime 
> type detection?
>

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[tw5] Re: Simple suggestion to help new people

[Ste]

The reply thing is just one of the many joys of the new and improved Google 
groups... 
Welcome to the group. Glad your finding it friendly place :) We try! 

On Monday, 2 August 2021 at 18:14:26 UTC+1 albe...@gmail.com wrote:

> When I found the group I was very excited it has lots of member and 
> activity. Best of all it felt very welcoming. I did have one very difficult 
> challenge. I was reading the group on my phone. There was no "New Comment" 
> button. I was expecting a "post" or "new post" option and  I was expecting 
> it on the page that I was reading. It took me about half an hour to figure 
> out that I had to be in desktop site mod.
>
> If someone can edit the welcome message at the top of the screen that 
> would be very helpful. I you could mention both the desktop site thing and 
> that  new conversation is under the three bars at the upper left it may 
> help a lot of other be folks 
>

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Re: [tw5] 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[Ste]

I have no real idea what I've just watched, small screen viewing probably 
didn't help, but it looked impressive! 
So was that a visualisation of git commits Mario? 

It all looks like an awful lot of work so thanks Jeremy and everyone! 


On Monday, 2 August 2021 at 19:51:20 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> Hi Jeremy, 
> Thanks. It was fun to make it and I'm happy to find a music that fits 
> perfectly well in mood and length ;) 
> -m
>
> Am Mo., 2. Aug. 2021 um 20:48 Uhr schrieb Jeremy Ruston <
> jeremy...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Bravo Mario, that's absolutely brilliant, thank you for sharing.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 19:32, PMario  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes 
>>  
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
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[tw5] Re: Niche interest - popup placement demo

[Ste]

That's cool! 
I like the ability to set the pop up direction. 
I've been using repopup plugin from the mentat sit 
(https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/)
To keep my polyps in order but I will have a play with this! 

On Monday, 26 July 2021 at 20:41:39 UTC+1 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I made a demonstration of popup placement using the reveal widget's 
> position attribute. It doesn't give you control of all the factors that 
> might affect popup shape and position, but it did help me to understand the 
> behaviour and intent of each positioning option.
>
>
> https://clutterstack-tw-notes.tiddlyhost.com/#Demo%20-%20popup%20positioning%20with%20reveal%20widget
>
> Best,
> Chris
>

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[tw5] Re: What other tools compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

[Ste]

Android note taking apps wot I has used: 
As I have a note9 Fii note is my scribble notes with a stylus. 
Nebo notes is also good. (as is myscipt2 calculator by the same peeps)
For markdown neutriNote is good.
 DroidEdit fills that notepad++ hole
And Quinoid or Tiddloid for the tiddlywiki. 
Snap pad is good for small uber quick jottings. 
Snap desk for a bit more permanance. 





On Friday, 23 July 2021 at 04:47:37 UTC+1 jason...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just worked on a tool for syncing my Keep notes to TW today, it is a JS 
> bookmarklet that loads and executes this gist 
> . I 
> have only tested this on Chrome so far and there are still a couple kinks 
> to work out, but I'm happy with it so far.
>
> 1. Highlight this text and drag it into your bookmarks bar:
>
> javascript:var 
> id%3D"0937d5af819d1914c7803f22ee8752d6"%2Cfile%3D"bookmarklet-export-keep.js"%2Cuser%3D"jasonmhoule"%2Cxhr%3Dnew
>  
> XMLHttpRequest%3Bxhr.overrideMimeType("application%2Fjson")%3Bxhr.open("GET"%2C"https%3A%2F%
> 2Fgist.githubusercontent.com%2F"%2Buser%2B"%2F"%2Bid%2B"%2Fraw%2F"%2Bfile%2B"%3F"%2BMath.random())%3Bxhr.onreadystatechange%3Dfunction()%7Bif(4%3D%3D%3Dxhr.readyState)if(200%3D%3D%3Dxhr.status)console.log("Successfully
>  
> loaded 
> gist%3A"%2C%7Bid%3Aid%2Cfile%3Afile%2Cuser%3Auser%2Cresponse%3Axhr.responseText%7D)%2C(0%2Ceval)(xhr.responseText)%3Belse%7Bvar
>  
> a%3D"GitHub Gist file did not load successfully and instead returned a 
> status code of 
> "%2Bxhr.status%2B"."%3Bconsole.error(a%2C%7Bid%3Aid%2Cfile%3Afile%2Cuser%3Auser%7D)%3Balert(a)%7D%7D%3Bxhr.send(null)%3Bvoid+0
>
> 2. Navigate to Keep. The code will iterate through all the tiddlers that 
> are loaded to the view, so if your Keep is anywhere near as cluttered as 
> mine, I suggest trying this on a subset. For example, I tag certain notes 
> as #export, and then I can open that tag in the Keep web navbar to execute 
> this script just on them.
>
> 3. Once you have the 'target' tiddlers in view, click on the bookmarklet 
> and watch it pop each tiddler open in turn (one per second). Once it is 
> done with this, it will download a keep-notes.json file. You can drag this 
> single file into your wiki and it will import one tiddler per note. Note 
> that I also use (an early version of) Projectify so the code tags each 
> tiddler with "Inbox" and "todo" so that it lands for processing in TW. I 
> have not looked into pulling the other Keep tags into the tiddler but will 
> probably do that.
>
> The code currently does not archive tiddlers automatically - I may add 
> that some day, but want to kick the tires quite a bit more first. Also note 
> that because the bookmarklet loads the gist from GH, if I make any changes 
> in the future, it is the changed code that will be triggered. (I'm not sure 
> if I can pin the bookmarklet down to a single commit, that would probably 
> be useful!)
>
> Anyway, thought I would offer this up to see if there are 
> thoughts/feedback for improvement.
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 3:27:21 PM UTC-5 Si wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the responses.
>>
>> I like Keep, very nice level of simplicity and pleasant to use. 
>> Personally I try to avoid Google stuff where I can, but I did notice this 
>> very nice keep-style Android app that has recently appeared on Fdroid: 
>> https://github.com/msoultanidis/quillnote. Unfortunately it's Android 
>> only, but I'll be keeping an eye on it in case they add a way to sync the 
>> notes to a computer as markdown files.
>>
>> @Tones 
>>
>> > I don't concur with your statement Si, as I think I said before  *In 
>> my opinion a major weakness of TiddlyWiki is that it is not well suited to 
>> quickly capturing information on the fly with minimal friction.*
>>
>> I wouldn't want to spend much time defending my view, as I think what 
>> does/doesn't count as friction is pretty subjective. My biggest problems 
>> are on mobile, where saving a single file wiki with Tiddloid takes too long 
>> for me to ever really feel like using it. I had forgotten about 
>> Projectify's quick-add feature though, which I agree is very useful for 
>> quick-capture.
>>
>> > I did look into getting tiddlywiki into a browser side bar in the past. 
>> I believed it worked in FireFox, but if not universal it is less 
>> interesting. 
>>
>> There are a few Firefox extensions for doing this, but I couldn't get any 
>> to work with a local file. Perhaps they will work with the node.js version. 
>> Vivaldi has a built in feature for doing this which works very nicely with 
>> TiddlyWiki: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/panels/web-panels/
>> On Thursday, 22 July 2021 at 05:35:35 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Keep is popular.
>>>
>>> I did look into getting tiddlywiki into a browser side bar in the past. 
>>> I believed it worked in FireFox, but if not universal it is less 
>>> interesting. That is the advantage of keep if you use a few of googles 
>>> 

[tw5] Re: Awesome Tiddlywiki Example

[Ste]

Looks very slick. I like the references fold down and tabs at the bottom of 
the tiddlers. 

On Saturday, 19 June 2021 at 11:03:42 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Right! Awesome.
>
> You might want to note that it extensively uses both Theme and Plugins by 
> Thomas Elmiger to enable what the user needed!
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Saturday, 19 June 2021 at 07:02:23 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tweeted by @OffrayLC on 
>> https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/1405947061787312130?s=20
>> a #Starforged character sheet done in @TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> See it here: https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/502Lab/uv/wiki/502Lab.html#
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Vanishing content!

[Ste]

I never! 
Oh... Yeah.. 
*embarrased silence* 
Thanks! 

On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 12:33:18 UTC+1 Eric Shulman wrote:

> The tiddler "Thermodynamics" is *folded* !!!
>
> see  $:/state/folded/Thermodynamics 
> <https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/txtbook.html#%24%3A%2Fstate%2Ffolded%2FThermodynamics>
>
> -e
>
> On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 4:18:35 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:
>
>> Changing the tiddler linked to above to Thermodynamics and the content 
>> vanishes. 
>>
>> On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 12:15:46 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> Ok... 
>>> This one has me stumped.. 
>>> I have a tiddler titled Thermodynamics. 
>>> When I'm in edit mode the preview shows correctly however when I'm view, 
>>> nothing shows. 
>>> I have cloned the tiddler, all is fine. But when I change the clone name 
>>> from Thermodynamics 1 to Thermodynamics the content vanishes once again. I 
>>> have deleted and redone it just using a small text but putting the title to 
>>> Thermodynamics stops it displaying. 
>>> It used to display... (a couple of weeks ago I think is the last time I 
>>> looked)I'm don't think I've changed anything.. 
>>> It displays on my depreciated tiddlyspot version... 
>>> I'm viewing on mobile chrome. 
>>> https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/txtbook.html#Thermodynamic
>>> Any help/ suggestions?! 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Vanishing content!

[Ste]

Changing the tiddler linked to above to Thermodynamics and the content 
vanishes. 

On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 12:15:46 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Ok... 
> This one has me stumped.. 
> I have a tiddler titled Thermodynamics. 
> When I'm in edit mode the preview shows correctly however when I'm view, 
> nothing shows. 
> I have cloned the tiddler, all is fine. But when I change the clone name 
> from Thermodynamics 1 to Thermodynamics the content vanishes once again. I 
> have deleted and redone it just using a small text but putting the title to 
> Thermodynamics stops it displaying. 
> It used to display... (a couple of weeks ago I think is the last time I 
> looked)I'm don't think I've changed anything.. 
> It displays on my depreciated tiddlyspot version... 
> I'm viewing on mobile chrome. 
> https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/txtbook.html#Thermodynamic
> Any help/ suggestions?! 
>

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[tw5] Vanishing content!

[Ste]

Ok... 
This one has me stumped.. 
I have a tiddler titled Thermodynamics. 
When I'm in edit mode the preview shows correctly however when I'm view, 
nothing shows. 
I have cloned the tiddler, all is fine. But when I change the clone name 
from Thermodynamics 1 to Thermodynamics the content vanishes once again. I 
have deleted and redone it just using a small text but putting the title to 
Thermodynamics stops it displaying. 
It used to display... (a couple of weeks ago I think is the last time I 
looked)I'm don't think I've changed anything.. 
It displays on my depreciated tiddlyspot version... 
I'm viewing on mobile chrome. 
https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/txtbook.html#Thermodynamic
Any help/ suggestions?! 

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[tw5] Re: A Show'nTell: an evolving approach for TiddlyWiki "reader view(?)"

[Ste]

That's looking really good. There have been several read only plugins in 
the past (I used one on one of my presentations and now camt remember what 
it was so I can undo it!). It certainly looks cleaner and less cluttered in 
your new version. 

On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 02:51:15 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Just an FYI about my ever-evolving approach to presenting TiddlyWiki's, by 
> default, in "reader view(?)", with alternative "normal TiddlyWiki view" 
> available via toggling.
>
>- by "reader view" (internal debate on-going about that label), I mean 
>hiding much of what looks like TiddlyWiki interface features, without 
>getting into anything too fancy
>- for toggling, I went with no-fuss-no-muss open/close of the sidebar 
>as the toggle for showing/hiding TiddlyWiki interface features
>
> To get the Full Monty experience of what I mean check out the before and 
> after (still very much a work in progress) of my Le P'tit Aurèle:
>
>- my now deprecated version without "reader view" 
>
>- the new going-forward version with "reader view" at startup 
>
>
> I guess the mission is: how do I setup the kind of structure that makes 
> for easy/simple navigation to a lot of content without getting lost, while 
> still making it easy to access the full-features of TiddlyWiki for custom 
> digging into the content?
>
> Something like that.
>
> Cheers !
>

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[tw5] Re: Strol v. Mentat

[Ste]

Muuri plugin. That's the one. 

On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 15:03:08 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

>
> Horizontalsomeones done itlooked really good as well, having a 
> brain fart and can't think of the plugin name..hammer.js? by burning tree? 
> hopefully someone with a better memory will be along shortly.
> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 14:14:22 UTC+1 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Merv,
>>
>> I preface this by saying I didn't design any of the plugins in question, 
>> though I have been messing with them a lot recently for my own project.
>>
>> As David stated you can use the backlink system, relinks, and 
>> autocomplete from Stroll with the interface of Mentat.
>>
>> However, with the current TiddlyWiki version Mentat is very unstable and 
>> even if you can bring it under control something as simple as flipping 
>> between themes causes it to act up again. I love the concept of Mentat but 
>> it definitely needs some love.
>>
>> This is a link to one of my posts outlining all the steps I took in 
>> trying to get Mentat to work (you can also see the final one where I found 
>> that switching between themes broke it again): 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kCSxf7DaXYw/m/gFA9ZTm-AwAJ
>>
>> Stroll is definitely, at least in my opinion, much more polished and 
>> stable, even the two column display which I enjoy immensely! My only wish 
>> is that there was a horizontal view option.
>>
>> Hope this was helpful in some way!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 8:20:32 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Merv, 
>>>
>>> You could definitely set up the backlink system, relinks and 
>>> autocomplete from Stroll on Mentat. The two column aspect of Stroll would 
>>> not work, but then, if you have Mentat, you have a way to arrange your 
>>> tiddlers, so a second column would be unnecessary. See 
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#Add%20Stroll%20to%20your%20TW 
>>> for tips on transferring just the backlinks to another file. Blessings.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:48:11 AM UTC-5 mervinme...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just discovered the plugin Mentat. 
>>>> https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/   I find the possibilities 
>>>> fascinating.  I am using Stroll for some of my wikis.  At first glance, 
>>>> the 
>>>> two appear to be incompatible.  I was wondering if anybody has done any 
>>>> experimenting with combining these two systems.  What were the results?
>>>>
>>>> Merv
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Strol v. Mentat

[Ste]

Horizontalsomeones done itlooked really good as well, having a 
brain fart and can't think of the plugin name..hammer.js? by burning tree? 
hopefully someone with a better memory will be along shortly.
On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 14:14:22 UTC+1 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello Merv,
>
> I preface this by saying I didn't design any of the plugins in question, 
> though I have been messing with them a lot recently for my own project.
>
> As David stated you can use the backlink system, relinks, and autocomplete 
> from Stroll with the interface of Mentat.
>
> However, with the current TiddlyWiki version Mentat is very unstable and 
> even if you can bring it under control something as simple as flipping 
> between themes causes it to act up again. I love the concept of Mentat but 
> it definitely needs some love.
>
> This is a link to one of my posts outlining all the steps I took in trying 
> to get Mentat to work (you can also see the final one where I found that 
> switching between themes broke it again): 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kCSxf7DaXYw/m/gFA9ZTm-AwAJ
>
> Stroll is definitely, at least in my opinion, much more polished and 
> stable, even the two column display which I enjoy immensely! My only wish 
> is that there was a horizontal view option.
>
> Hope this was helpful in some way!
>
>
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 8:20:32 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi Merv, 
>>
>> You could definitely set up the backlink system, relinks and autocomplete 
>> from Stroll on Mentat. The two column aspect of Stroll would not work, but 
>> then, if you have Mentat, you have a way to arrange your tiddlers, so a 
>> second column would be unnecessary. See 
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#Add%20Stroll%20to%20your%20TW for 
>> tips on transferring just the backlinks to another file. Blessings.
>>
>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:48:11 AM UTC-5 mervinme...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I just discovered the plugin Mentat. 
>>> https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/   I find the possibilities 
>>> fascinating.  I am using Stroll for some of my wikis.  At first glance, the 
>>> two appear to be incompatible.  I was wondering if anybody has done any 
>>> experimenting with combining these two systems.  What were the results?
>>>
>>> Merv
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [question] plugin that turn a transclusion into a clickable link in edit mode ?

[Ste]

I think there is something in tbeers repository of stuff that does that, 
though you have to use a slightly different syntax to {{}}  for it to work.
http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#Welcome

Though having just looked I can't spot it

On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 04:28:37 UTC+1 fred@gmail.com wrote:

> Not exactly what you want but if you use the paragraphs plugin to 
> transclude, you can edit the original tiddler's text directly when in view 
> more. You may be able to tweak it so the view is nearly identical.
>
> http://j.d.paragraphs.tiddlyspot.com/#paragraphs%20Macro%20(Examples)
>
> On Thursday, 10 June 2021 at 19:33:53 UTC-4 Télumire wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a plugin that turn a transclusion into a 
>> clickable link to the tiddler transcluded, in edit mode?
>>
>> The process would be as follows: 
>>
>> I want to edit a tiddler (A). When the editor opens, I see that I have 
>> transcluded another tiddler (e.g. {{B}}) inside the tiddler A. 
>>
>> I want to edit what is in B, so rather than copy/paste the title of 
>> tiddler B into the search bar, click on the relevant tiddler in the search 
>> result, then edit the tiddler B, this plugin would allow me to simply click 
>> on {{B}}, which open the tiddler B, ideally already in edit mode. This 
>> would save a lot of time !
>>
>> CodeMirror is able to parse links, so maybe someone made an addon build 
>> upon it allowing this functionnality ? I searched but ultimately found 
>> nothing ..
>>
>> PS : I know that it's possible to use a macro instead of a standard 
>> transclusion (like discussed here 
>> https://tiddlywiki.narkive.com/dxOiR2Vn/tw-tw5-including-a-link-when-transcluding)
>>  
>> but I dont want to change the way the tiddler is displayed in view mode.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Song] Wiki Wiki

[Ste]

Right! We need to get DJ Jerm and MC Mario on the case to mix up some 
tiddly beats :)

That raised a smile :)

On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 21:41:16 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> This is a nice "Wikki-Wikki" song too ... https://youtu.be/80HZCap3aWU  
> 
>
> On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 22:22:36 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Here is remix of the previous ... https://youtu.be/Q1B9IdiAWnI
>>
>> On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 22:16:55 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> There are other wiki songs ... like ...  https://youtu.be/hISA_7WBNIs
>>>
>>> TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
 https://youtu.be/QtnzvUfO0wE

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [Comment] My Ongoing Irritations with Google Groups

[Ste]

Just looking at discourse home page it's free but the minimum hosting is 
$100 a month and they also do free free for open source projects. We is 
open source. Can we has free? 
I'm a little confused about what's free and what's worth $100 a month. 

On Sunday, 30 May 2021 at 12:15:07 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:04:26 AM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> In past discussions, some quite passionate (I wish I could QUOTE from 
>> them, but OF COURSE* I can't find them!  *Lol -:), led to a number of 
>> initiatives.
>> The most significant long-lasting one being TiddlyWiki on REDDIT, still 
>> run by Riz, https://www.reddit.com/r/TiddlyWiki5/
>>
>
> I'm sorry to say but for me the UI there is even worse than the UI here. 
> ... And reading threads on other groups at /r/ the "tone" of many posts 
> isn't welcoming. eg: A common answer is: "This has been answered already", 
> go search for it. 
>
> I think, this is a strength here in the group, that questions are 
> answered, even if they have been asked in a slightly different way. ... At 
> least we post a link or two. ... I think this is much more welcoming, than "
> RTFM " ...
>  
>
>> It is terrible on Search. 
>>
>
> That's right. ... Most of the time, I have to search for my own name to 
> find threads, where I replied to :/. ... Or I have to filter for "stars". I 
> do "star" every answer or thread, that I think may be interesting in the 
> future for me. .. 
>  
>
>> Upvote does not exist. 
>>
>
> What is this needed for? -- I personally think this is discriminating. Why 
> should my answer be worth more or have a higher "counter" than an answer 
> from someone else? ... 
>
> On an other platform, that starts with "s" and ends wit "overflow" the 
> best answers for me are usually near the middle or the end of the list. ... 
> Because most of the time, my problem isn't 100% the same to the OT but 
> similar enough to find useful hints. ... 
>
> Why should I risk to answer a question, where I'm not 100% sure if I do 
> get upvotes. ... Why should I risk to get "downvoted" for a "wrong" answer, 
> just because I didn't understand the OT right.
>
> --
>
> I would be OK if the original author _only_ has the possibility to "mark 
> an answer" as "This answer made it work for me" .. OR a general "I found a 
> solution. Thanks for helping me out"
>
> Tagging posts proved to be not adequate here.
>>
>
> That's right.
>
> just my thoughts.
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki running hot on /r/selfhosted

[Ste]

Upvoted! 


On Sunday, 30 May 2021 at 09:42:39 UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:

> Hi there TiddlyWikians,
>
> TiddlyWiki is currently running top place on reddit.com/r/selfhosted :)
> We see that on a whole bunch of new github likes
>
> If you find the time, login to reddit and give it a vote to keep the trend 
> going ;)
>
> Best wishes, BurningTreeC
>

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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki Documentation - Syntax

[Ste]

I have no idea if this would be more hassle than it's worth or would be a 
workable work flow but could text stretch or stretch text be used to 
present a condensed version which could be expanded? 
https://links.tiddlywiki.com/urls/7f9e7e60ed40b5098996
https://links.tiddlywiki.com/urls/618ef8913574d547c412

On Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 17:10:32 UTC+1 Stobot wrote:

> Progress and feedback gathering:
>
>- The main suggestion I wanted to take a look at first was adding 
>"metasyntactic variables", which was suggested by many of you. I had 
>expressed my concern with length, so want to show that below and at the 
>link to get feedback. 
>- Added these attribute strings in a dictionary so they can be shared 
>/consistent between widgets
>- Added parenthesis around defaults that are not variable names
>
>
> Review here:
> Documentation — Syntax for Widgets (tiddlyhost.com) 
> 
>
> So on the site now I show a V1 (original), V2 (adding the metasyntactic 
> variables), and V3 with them, but splitting each attribute into a new line. 
> It's not clear to me which is best because I change my mind depending on 
> how many attributes there are. While V3 I think makes it easier to read for 
> widgets with MANY attributes, I wonder then if it's worth just combining 
> the syntax and attribute table altogether since it'd probably fit all side 
> by side (think syntax as col1 of a table with the description, defaults as 
> other columns... 
>
> Examples - fairly simple = Image
> [image: image-widget.PNG]
>
> Examples - more complex = Edit-text
> [image: edit-text-widget.PNG]
>
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 6:19:11 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> When documenting code perhaps mouse over and alt text could be used along 
>> with highlighting so an optional items being bold nd green could support 
>> screen readers and the color blind with mouse over text? We do have  rich 
>> environment available after all. I am sure there are standards we can 
>> follow.
>>
>> Tones 
>>
>> On Friday, 28 May 2021 at 03:47:37 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 4:28 PM Stobot  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks everyone for the feedback!

 @Soren

- Good point about the formatting on the values in the Default 
section, I'll try parentheses. 
- I ''strongly'' agree that every attribute should have an example. 
I might have to put that as a secondary effort though to make sure I 
 finish 
this. 
- Good reminder again on color-blindness. I did end up going with 
the bold / italic setup so I think I'll stick with that unless I hear 
 of 
something better
- I like the note about doing source="MyImageTiddler" rather than 
just source as I have it. I actually did that originally, but after 
realizing how many attributes some of these things have, I 
 counter-balanced 
against the length of the syntax mockup. I think you're probably right 
anyways, and I think your point about a maintained table of example 
 values 
per type makes sense - good idea. But take a look at something like 
<$edit-text/> which has 20 attributes. At a certain length, I worry we 
would lose people, or you then get into a kind of stepped layout where 
 each 
attribute gets a newline?
- I agree on the order, I did put all the required ones first, and 
then took some liberty on ones I thought were most common, but 
 alphabetical 
probably makes more sense. Counter to that might be to bundle (sort 
together) the ones that go together. 
- Your last point on multiple required attributes is similar to 
where I was thinking about too. For reference, using your example - 
<$action-setfield> 
   - Your suggestion: <$action-setfield $tiddler="tid" 
   ($field="field" | $index = "index" | *text* field) 
   $value="value" />  - what does the *text* field part mean?
   - I was thinking about the combinations that were valid could 
   all be spelled out. For example either tiddler or field are fine, 
 and if 
   you use index you need tiddler too.
   - So maybe: <$action-setfield ( $tiddler | $field | $tiddler + 
   $field | $tiddler + $index ) $value /> - though again that gets long 
 if 
   there are lots of options like this.

 @Tones

- I commented on your other thread on CSS - I agree that's an 
opportunity for a little more to be added to the documentation also
- I also like the "copy to clipboard" piece. I saw that in many of 
the examples and will try to implement it by reverse-engineering the 
 core 
macro that does it. 
- You bring up a lot of other things that while valid, 

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWorldBuilder

[Ste]

Looking good. I'll try and have a play on a big screen tomorrow. 
Buttons/scrolls don't seem to work on mobile! 

On Thursday, 27 May 2021 at 06:11:45 UTC+1 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> So this is still a work in progress but wanted to thank the community for 
> all their help up to this point by showing you all what I've put together.
>
> TiddlyWorldBuilder currently combines..
>
>- The linking capabilities/concepts of Stroll (
>https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/stories.html) minus the two column 
>view (replaced by Mentat floating Tiddlers below).
>- The concept maps thought process/features by TiddlyMap (
>http://tiddlymap.org/).
>- The Tiddler presentation capabilities of Mentat (
>https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/) minus the Engine plugin 
>(disabled it) that was used to create the HUD in Mentat as that was 
>breaking functionality.
>- An adjusted Tabs area by modifying the underlying Core tiddlers, 
>their tags, and fields.
>   - All removed tabs were moved to beneath the "More" tab.
>   - Added a "Temps" (for Template until I get an icon) tab with links 
>   that will create new Tiddlers based on content templates.* (I have 
>   created three of the four templates listed but don't have them in this 
>   particular Tiddly file yet.)*
>
>
> Current Caveats
>
>- Need to have a Story Window (from Mentat) open before creating a new 
>Tiddler or else it will throw an error.
>- For some reason when the Mentat Story Visualization is turned on, 
>which it needs to be in order to have the floating Tiddlers, you have to 
>Right click in some fields in order to put the focus in them to edit them 
>in New and Existing Tiddlers.
>
>
>
> Just to clarify; I haven't built any plugins or modified any of the 
> existing plugins. I've just been piecing certain things together to create 
> a solution for a need. I included the links to the various projects to 
> ensure proper credit is given :)
>
> Hopefully by doing all the above and calling the solution a particular 
> name I didn't break any rules or take part in a taboo. If I did, I 
> apologize!
>
> Would love feedback as well!
>

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[tw5] Re: Popout Tiddlers/View?

[Ste]

How about https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/


On Wednesday, 26 May 2021 at 23:22:35 UTC+1 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> It's me again. I wanted to thank those that helped on my previous post 
> regarding conditional templates! I have what I think is another strange 
> question, though I'm not sure if it is unique. I came across some vaguely 
> similar concepts but didn't hit anything true.
>
> I would also like to preface this post with: I may be making things harder 
> on myself. I have been trying to create a world building application that 
> is considered not only open source but can be opened no matter what in the 
> future since TiddlyWiki is simply an HTML file. Unless browsers go the way 
> of the dodo TiddlyWikis will always be viewable and even if they do you can 
> look at the code to at least see the content. Anyway, back to my question.
>
> Whenever I start working in TiddlyWiki my mind begins to branch out from a 
> particular Tiddler and kind creates a "view" that I'm unfortunately unable 
> to follow in TiddlyWiki's default format. Even with using TiddlyStroll (I 
> also added TiddlyMap to the TiddlyStroll template) I still can't seem to 
> feel comfortable with things.
>
> When I try to conceptualize the situation two "views" appear in my head.
>
> 1) The Tiddlers, when loaded, become floating popouts that can be moved 
> around the computer screen just like regular app windows. That way as new 
> Tiddlers are opened based on the users train of thought they just layer on 
> the screen. I guess kind of like if you had 15 Word documents open in 15 
> Word app instances so you could see the title and bits and pieces of each 
> one.
>
> 2) The Tiddlers, when loaded, start to fill in the page similar to a 
> tiling windows manager in Linux. Even if the boxes get progressively 
> smaller as they resize during tiling or if once they hit a certain number 
> of boxes the whole view simply shrinks percentage wise I guess it doesn't 
> matter.
>
> Anyway, any thoughts or solutions? Thanks again for all your help! Once I 
> feel comfortable with the solution I've put together I'm going to post for 
> anyone to use as a world building option, and also use it myself for my 
> writing. 
>

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[tw5] Re: TidGraph and Link Rendering

[Ste]

I think you would be as well forking. Looking at the github it's not been 
touched for quite sometime and I don't think the tidgraph genius is still 
active here either. 
One improvement I'd love is that tiddlers opened from tidgraph aren't 
always opened at the top of the river. 

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 08:44:04 UTC+1 jvpo...@productmicro.be wrote:

> Code is in 
> https://github.com/ihm4u/tw5plugs/tree/gh-pages/plugins/ihm/tidgraph
>
> Op zaterdag 22 mei 2021 om 05:35:09 UTC+2 schreef c pa:
>
>> So tidgraph looks cool. I would love to add features but you've minified 
>> the code making it almost impossible to figure out what the code is doing. 
>> Is there a version where the functions have human readable names? 
>>
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 6:55:03 AM UTC-7 jvpo...@productmicro.be 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the  element => You are my hero!!
>>>
>>> I'll post a pull request once I get it tested and fixed.
>>>
>>> Thanks for helping me out!!
>>>
>>> Op vrijdag 21 mei 2021 om 14:16:05 UTC+2 schreef saq.i...@gmail.com:
>>>
 What element is nodecontent.children[0].children[0] ?

 If it is the  element that is created perhaps you can do something 
 like:

 nodeContent.querySelector("a.tc-tiddlylink");

 On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 2:10:48 PM UTC+2 jvpo...@productmicro.be 
 wrote:

> I did do a *very ugly test* and it works (by overwriting the 
> $:/plugins/ihm/tidgraph/utils.js  tiddler).
>
> Now I need some help to get to the correct child nodecontent. Any 
> ideas?
>
> Thanks for your help!!!
>
> This works in tidgraphs util.js:
>   function makeNodeDiv(node) {
>  var esctitle = encodeURIComponent(node.id);
>  var title =  getNodeTitle(node.id,tidtree);
>  var isMissing = !$tw.wiki.tiddlerExists(node.id);
>  var linkclass = isMissing ? 
> "tc-tiddlylink-missing":"tc-tiddlylink-resolves";
>  var linkclass = "tc-tiddlylink " + linkclass;
>  var nodeclass = getNodeClasses(node);
>  var nodecontent;
>  if ( node.template ) {
> nodecontent = dm('div',{ "class": nodeclass,
>  innerHTML: getRenderedNode(node) } );
>  } else {
> var tidlink = dm('a',{"class": linkclass,
>text: title,
>attributes: { href: '#'+esctitle }
> });
> nodecontent = dm('div', {"class": nodeclass, 
>  children: [tidlink] });
>  }
>  // HACK TEST. NOT OK -> getting domNode by children array :( :(
>  if (node && nodecontent && nodecontent.children[0] && 
> nodecontent.children[0].children[0]) {
> $tw.utils.makeDraggable({
> domNode: nodecontent.children[0].children[0],
> dragTiddlerFn: function() {return node.id;},
> widget: node.widget
>  });
>  }
>  return nodecontent;
>   }
>
> Op vrijdag 21 mei 2021 om 11:34:59 UTC+2 schreef Lean Product 
> Innovation - Jonas Van Poucke:
>
>> Thanks, exactly! Thanks for the pointer.
>> I'll try to fix this myself but feel novice in this area..
>>
>> So if someone could hepl with adding this to TidGraph... :D
>>
>> Jonas
>>
>> Op vrijdag 21 mei 2021 om 11:06:29 UTC+2 schreef saq.i...@gmail.com:
>>
>>>  
>>>
 Given:
 Nodes in tidgraph are rendered with <$link/>, just as in the demo's

>>>
>>> I am not sure that this is correct. At first glance it seems like  
>>> tidgraph creates  elements that look like they might have been 
>>> generated 
>>> by the <$link> widget, but have not. 
>>>
>>> This is the core function that attaches the event listeners needed 
>>> for drag and drop: 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/dom/dragndrop.js#L24
>>>
>>> This is how the link widget uses it: 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/widgets/link.js#L134
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: TidGraph and Link Rendering

[Ste]

I'll be honest.. I don't really understand what your asking, but if your 
looking at updating tidgraph a little that would be awesome! 

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 10:02:23 UTC+1 jvpo...@productmicro.be wrote:

> I use <$link/> as the mechanism to render nodes.
> I then use that link to drag and drop to another tiddler.
> I see that nodes have CSS classes added to mimick <$link/>
> *but it does not add the listeners* as with a regular link (tested with 
> the same link in a plain tiddler).
>
> Is this a correct assumption/analysis? And can this be fixed?
> Like in function makeNodeDiv(node) in 
> https://github.com/ihm4u/tw5plugs/blob/gh-pages/plugins/ihm/tidgraph/utils.js 
> ?
>
> Jonas
>

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Re: [tw5] [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

[Ste]

The tiddlywiki open collective which started up/ is linked with? Tiddlywiki 
on fission. 
https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission

On Friday, 21 May 2021 at 01:03:31 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Ste,
>
> *Is this something the fission collective pot thing could also be applied 
> to? Can we/ should we push that a bit more? *
>
> Please elaborate, I do not know to what you refer.
>
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 21 May 2021 at 00:33:16 UTC+10 Ste wrote:
>
>> Is this something the fission collective pot thing could also be applied 
>> to? Can we/ should we push that a bit more? 
>>
>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 09:58:59 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tones, R²,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the thoughtful posts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 May 2021, at 08:06, R²  wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems there's no "Tiddlywiki developer for hire" page on 
>>> tiddlywiki.com, which seems like a missed opportunity.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been thinking about that recently, and have a tentative plan to 
>>> build a new https://market.tiddlywiki.com/ site that would consist of 
>>> classified listings of services offered and services wanted. I’d be 
>>> inclined to focus on the “sell” side first, making a storefront for 
>>> people/organisations to offer their services.
>>>
>>> Just like links.tiddlywiki.com, the idea is that each seller would 
>>> register the URL of a TiddlyWiki that contains the details of their 
>>> offering. The system would scrape the individual sites at regular intervals 
>>> and aggregate together the information into a single site.
>>>
>>> Site visitors would see a page listing all of the sellers, and be able 
>>> to click through to see a page with the full details of a seller. We could 
>>> reuse the tagging and search from links.tiddlywiki.com.
>>>
>>> Some of the information that would be useful to bring together:
>>>
>>> * Name
>>> * Logo
>>> * Site URL
>>> * Services offered (again, we’d need to evolve a set of standard tags 
>>> for this)
>>> * Timezone
>>> * Languages spoken/written
>>> * Areas of specialisation
>>> * Links to past work
>>> * Case studies
>>> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki core
>>> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki discussion 
>>> forums
>>> * Perhaps a country of operations for legal purposes
>>>
>>> I think we could get something along those lines up and running fairly 
>>> quickly, and then could evolve it be something more dynamic that could 
>>> incorporate user feedback.
>>>
>>> The Drupal project maintains a marketplace site along the lines I’m 
>>> describing:
>>>
>>> https://www.drupal.org/drupal-services
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

[Ste]

Is this something the fission collective pot thing could also be applied 
to? Can we/ should we push that a bit more? 

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 09:58:59 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Tones, R²,
>
> Thanks for the thoughtful posts.
>
>
> On 20 May 2021, at 08:06, R²  wrote:
>
> It seems there's no "Tiddlywiki developer for hire" page on tiddlywiki.com, 
> which seems like a missed opportunity.
>
>
> I have been thinking about that recently, and have a tentative plan to 
> build a new https://market.tiddlywiki.com/ site that would consist of 
> classified listings of services offered and services wanted. I’d be 
> inclined to focus on the “sell” side first, making a storefront for 
> people/organisations to offer their services.
>
> Just like links.tiddlywiki.com, the idea is that each seller would 
> register the URL of a TiddlyWiki that contains the details of their 
> offering. The system would scrape the individual sites at regular intervals 
> and aggregate together the information into a single site.
>
> Site visitors would see a page listing all of the sellers, and be able to 
> click through to see a page with the full details of a seller. We could 
> reuse the tagging and search from links.tiddlywiki.com.
>
> Some of the information that would be useful to bring together:
>
> * Name
> * Logo
> * Site URL
> * Services offered (again, we’d need to evolve a set of standard tags for 
> this)
> * Timezone
> * Languages spoken/written
> * Areas of specialisation
> * Links to past work
> * Case studies
> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki core
> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki discussion 
> forums
> * Perhaps a country of operations for legal purposes
>
> I think we could get something along those lines up and running fairly 
> quickly, and then could evolve it be something more dynamic that could 
> incorporate user feedback.
>
> The Drupal project maintains a marketplace site along the lines I’m 
> describing:
>
> https://www.drupal.org/drupal-services
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW-Scripts A Community Resource For All Users

[Ste]

Hi Mohammad,
You said your plan was to have many contributors.
How can the community contribute to this?  As I'm putting a small trickle 
of links into the official links list https://links.tiddlywiki.com/ would 
it be possible to use that wiki to contribute the occasional code snippet 
or is it a git hub thing?
(p.s. (I have starred you! :D )
On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 19:50:38 UTC+1 Anjar wrote:

> This is beautiful, Mohammad, thank you for curating, refining, and 
> documenting these scripts! A very powerful resource!
>
> Best,
> Anders
> mandag 26. april 2021 kl. 17:12:08 UTC+2 skrev Mohammad:
>
>> @Odin
>> Thank you! To contribute: the simple way to open TW-Script, from the 
>> sidebar click on create a new solutio and fill it the fields and email to 
>> me!
>> the hard way, add contents and send PRs.
>>
>> @Ray
>> Thank you , Hope you find it helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:58 AM Odin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>>
>>> I wish I could star TW-Scripts  a million times, because I used it many 
>>> times when I am trying to make something in TiddlyWiki. It is a very 
>>> helpful resource for sure!
>>>
>>> I see you are looking for contributors. Can you give an example how 
>>> people can contribute? Say, someone has written a solution/script, how 
>>> would like them to add it to the wiki?
>>>
>>> Op maandag 26 april 2021 om 08:05:06 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>>>
 There is a new update out there!

 A new Explorer tab in the sidebar (the idea from Soren) has been added 
 to simply search in solutions, keywords and responders!
 Uglify plugin used to reduce the size considerably! Field search from 
 Mario used!

 It needs polishing and finishing the 90 remaining tasks ;-) but very 
 useful!
 The old version is there and can be downloaded as before 
 https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts/releases/tag/5.1.21

 Page: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
 Github code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts


 Funny facts:
 1. The plan was to have a weekly update (now it has got yearly update 
 with many unfinished tasks)
 2. The plan was to have many contributors (it had one contributor, then 
 two and now has half ;-)
 3. It was thought it will get millions of stars in GitHub ;-) :) :), it 
 has 22 stars (better than no star!!)

 Best wishes
 Mohammad

 On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 9:04:36 AM UTC+3:30 Mohammad wrote:

> TW-Scripts is one of the most comprehensive collection of solutions 
> including codes, macros, stylesheets, tips and tricks for Tiddlywiki 5.
>
> While it has not been updated for a while, but it is there with a lot 
> of answers to your questions specially for those who have recently 
> started 
> Tiddlywiki.
>
>
> Page: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
> Github code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>
>
> I hopefully update it as I get some free time!
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
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Re: [tw5] [plugin] Navi cheatsheet: Export command line snippets directly to the shell

[Ste]

so...you can write something in a nodejs tiddlywiki and then it sends it to 
navi and that becomes a command line shortcut sort of thing?
mind blown...

On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 05:35:07 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Ah lovely!
> Thank you Bimlas!
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 9:48 PM bimlas  wrote:
>
>> Invoke snippets and one-liners stored in Node.js TiddlyWiki directly from 
>> the command line.
>>
>> Navi  is an interactive cheatsheet 
>> tool for the command-line: it allows you to browse through cheatsheets 
>> (that you may write yourself or download from maintainers) and execute 
>> commands. This is a great way to replace aliases, one-liners and short 
>> scripts with a searchable "snippet database".
>>
>> Many keep these snippets in their own description of the related program. 
>> This plugin helps you to access the snippets in your notes directly from 
>> the command line using Navi.
>>
>> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-navi-cheatsheet/
>>
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[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki with node.js does'work

[Ste]

Hi Amy, 
Welcome to TW. 
I have no clue but thought I'd give this a bump in the hope of a TW genius 
catching it 
On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:57:50 UTC+1 amy19...@gmail.com wrote:

> hello everyone. I used node. js to build the TiddlyWiki. It is normal once 
> after built the wiki. But after a few minutes, it couldn't contact and said 
> that ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED. How do I do to fix it?
>
> Blessing
>

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[tw5] Re: What is #TiddlyWiki?

[Ste]

@David
It's funny because it's true, and we know how much you put into the 
tiddlyverse.
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 15:48:21 UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:

> I should add that for me, the second description is playfful and in no way 
> nullifies the power of the first description...
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:43:05 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> A free, one-file cross-platform tool that can be used offline or online, 
>> for 
>> a) capturing your content in chunks, 
>> b) connecting, combining and organizing the chunks, and 
>> c) retrieving, exporting, sharing and publishing your content,
>> all in an incredibly customizable user interface 
>> and supported by a wide selection of plugin 
>> and a friendly open source community.
>>
>> Other description
>>
>> An addictive tool, 
>> that needs other tools and knowledge just to start saving changes and 
>> using it,
>> whose infinite customizability will cause you spend more time tweaking it 
>> than using it,
>> and whose fragmentary and incomprehensible documentation will leave you 
>> pounding your desk
>> and confusing things like tags, tag, tagging, untagged, list, listing, 
>> listed, list-before, list-after, list-behind, list-through,
>> filter:"[[ and filter="[[, , 
>> and $this$, <>, \define this(this), [has:this[]], [get:this[]], 
>> [forget:this[]] and [all[current]this[]]
>> TiddlyWiki will leave you with a long trail of files strewn across your 
>> hard drive,
>> each containing tweaks you experimented with to design the 'perfect' 
>> system, better than the last,
>> and notes you will need later but can't find because of the sheer number 
>> of files you started but abandoned 
>> because the next day someone announced a new plugin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 7:05:10 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> #TiddlyWiki  is SO feature 
>>> rich it is almost impossible to describe it. 
>>>
>>>  "Wiki" in particular kinda obscures it is really a VERY sophisticated 
>>> JavaScript application to dynamically, in real time, change HTML, CSS and 
>>> content of the web page it IS.
>>>
>>> *How would you describe it?*
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: What is #TiddlyWiki?

[Ste]

Tiddlywiki is AWESOME. 



On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 17:11:20 UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> From the front page of *Grok TiddlyWiki:*
>
> TiddlyWiki  is a human-shaped tool for 
> organizing information and taking notes. It stores and relates information 
> in a non-linear but structured way, just like your brain, and it doesn't 
> forget things.
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 7:05:10 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> #TiddlyWiki  is SO feature 
>> rich it is almost impossible to describe it. 
>>
>>  "Wiki" in particular kinda obscures it is really a VERY sophisticated 
>> JavaScript application to dynamically, in real time, change HTML, CSS and 
>> content of the web page it IS.
>>
>> *How would you describe it?*
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Very random Javascript errors

[Ste]

Red Screen of Death. Sometimes also called RSOE Red Screen of 
Embarrassment. 

On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 16:25:33 UTC+1 History Buff wrote:

> By RSOD, I'm assuming you mean the error window that pops up. Next time 
> that happens, I'll take a screenshot.
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:17:30 PM UTC-7 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> It would be good, if you could post the exact text, that is shown on the 
>> RSOD. It should tell us, what's causing the problem.
>>
>> ... Yes most likely a plugin, if you can't replicate it at tiddlywiki.com
>>
>> -m
>>
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[tw5] Re: Charts.CSS

[Ste]

If the formula graphing plugin could be rolled in and updated as well! 
https://stephenteacher.github.io/graph-tw5smallupdate/

On Monday, 3 May 2021 at 18:32:41 UTC+1 Stobot wrote:

> I agree Mario - huge value in pure wikitext/css charts - twMat put a nice 
> framework together!
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 10:20:17 PM UTC+1 Anjar wrote:
>>
>> I just discovered the CSS data visualization framework charts.css: 
>>> https://chartscss.org/ In short, you just add CSS to a table and get a 
>>> chart out of it. I know there already exist charting frameworks for 
>>> tiddlywiki, but charts.css looks very nice and simple
>>
>>
>> Hi, 
>> Just re-discovered this post from your link 
>>  
>> at: Is there any way of using entire latex syntax inside TiddyWiki?
>>
>> I think, it's a very nice find. Similar to twMat's experiments at: 
>> http://graphs.tiddlyspot.com/ which also uses wikitext and CSS only. 
>>
>> It seems their minified CSS is still 70kByte. ... We should ask twMat, 
>> how much he needed. I think, the advantage with TW-native is it nicely 
>> links to tiddlers. eg: Labels can contain links .. and so on. 
>>
>> I really think Graphs should get more attention, to bring it out of beta.
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Is there any way of using entire latex syntax inside TiddyWiki?

[Ste]

Hi, 
I think the short answer is no. :(
Katex supports a lot of LaTeX https://katex.org/docs/supported.html
But I don't think ticz drawings are supported. 
Im still kinda hoping https://github.com/pyramation/LaTeX2JS
takes goes viral and some mad genius makes a plugin out of it :) 
Maybe next it will week when I win the lotto! :)
I have used that with a free Dropbox hosting and Iframed it into a 
tiddlywiki. 
There are other diagramming plugins available for tiddlywiki. 
Have a search in the community vault: 
https://links.tiddlywiki.com/


On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 23:25:51 UTC+1 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know that with the KaTex Plugin I can partially use LaTex syntax by 
> adding $$ at the beginning of the phrase like:
>
> $$\displaystyle f(x) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty\hat f(\xi)\,e^{2 \pi i \xi 
> x}\,d\xi$$
>
> However, I'd like to put the entire LaTex syntax on my tiddlers like the 
> following:
>
> ```latex
> % Pie chart
> % Author: Robert Vollmert
> \documentclass{article}
>
> \usepackage{calc}
> \usepackage{ifthen}
> \usepackage{tikz}
> \begin{document}
> \newcommand{\slice}[4]{
>   \pgfmathparse{0.5*#1+0.5*#2}
>   \let\midangle\pgfmathresult
>
>   % slice
>   \draw[thick,fill=black!10] (0,0) -- (#1:1) arc (#1:#2:1) -- cycle;
>
>   % outer label
>   \node[label=\midangle:#4] at (\midangle:1) {};
>
>   % inner label
>   \pgfmathparse{min((#2-#1-10)/110*(-0.3),0)}
>   \let\temp\pgfmathresult
>   \pgfmathparse{max(\temp,-0.5) + 0.8}
>   \let\innerpos\pgfmathresult
>   \node at (\midangle:\innerpos) {#3};
> }
>
> \begin{tikzpicture}[scale=3]
>
> \newcounter{a}
> \newcounter{b}
> \foreach \p/\t in {20/type A, 4/type B, 11/type C,
>49/type D, 16/other}
>   {
> \setcounter{a}{\value{b}}
> \addtocounter{b}{\p}
> \slice{\thea/100*360}
>   {\theb/100*360}
>   {\p\%}{\t}
>   }
>
> \end{tikzpicture}
>
> \end{document}
> ```
>
> This is a pie chart made in LaTex language. Is there any way of making 
> TiddlyWiki show the result of what I write like that? Just by using the 
> same syntax that I use for choosing syntax? Or is there an alternative way 
> to reach this same goal?
>

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Re: [tw5] Plugin request

[Ste]

Unfortunately the <> widget is stll very undocumented. Perhaps a 
filter including -deadly macro? 

On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 03:10:19 UTC+1 Javier Rojas wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 01:25:45PM -0700, David Gifford wrote:
> > Can someone please create a PfizerVaccinePlugin?
>
> Well, the source code for them is known, and TiddlyWiki is really good
> at processing strings; the only thing missing is getting TiddlyWiki to
> control/operate a DNA printer:
>
>
> https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/
>

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Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

[Ste]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170407231100/http://erwans-learning-tw.bitballoon.com/

And

https://web.archive.org/web/20181219221651/https://erwans-learning-tw.netlify.com/

Both the same for

 Title: My first steps with TiddlyWiki
Url: http://erwans-learning-tw.bitballoon.com/
Problem: No site
On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 03:15:54 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> The list of remaining one bad urls is here:
>
> https://marxsal.github.io/tw-resources/#Plain%20listing%20bad%20URLs
>
> I wouldn't know how to prioritize. There's only ~15 left.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 6:15:22 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Each takes a long time to research, if you list some still missing or 
>> higher priority Items I can focus on them.
>>
>> I have a plugin library that documents additional details not in the 
>> plugin and may find some.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 11:08:41 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Here is one Checklist demo
>>> https://tgrosinger.github.io/tw5-checklist/
>>> and
>>> https://github.com/tgrosinger/tw5-checklist
>>>
>>> Tones
>>> On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 06:22:16 UTC+10 Ste wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would it be possible/ acceptable to download the archive tiddlywikis 
>>>> and upload them to a tiddlyhost? Would that solve any js problems then? Of 
>>>> at the very least preserve them in a somewhat more accessible state? 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 14:56:54 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, what is the purpose? To provide a working *link*, or to provide 
>>>>> a *description* of something that may or may not exist, as a starting 
>>>>> point for research? If you know something once existed, you can do your 
>>>>> own 
>>>>> spelunking at archive.org ... the fact something disappears so easily 
>>>>> suggesting that it wasn't in high demand.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 15 remaining items. None of them are from *tiddlyspot*.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with automating detection is that only the sites with 404 
>>>>> errors return crystal clear messages. Others time out, which might be a 
>>>>> local connectivity problem. Others put you on a master host site, others 
>>>>> put you on a "domain-for-sale" site. And then others exist, but the 
>>>>> tiddler 
>>>>> content is gone. So the author moved it some place else or tired of the 
>>>>> project.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking of just posting the remaining ones as they are, possibly 
>>>>> with tag "badurl", and the community can provide information as they are 
>>>>> discovered or sought for. The framing on archive.org apparently 
>>>>> breaks the JS, so maybe posting those addresses isn't all that helpful 
>>>>> anyways.
>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:04:14 AM UTC-7 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sort of thinking that archive.org is kind of a last resort. I'm 
>>>>>>> hoping some of these sites have new homes somewhere else. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right! Actually no resort?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For *the purpose* the sites need to be "live" and accessible, not 
>>>>>> archived?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am humbled by your dedication to do this so well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do wonder if it might be possible to *automate,* in some way, 
>>>>>> probing of the online status of included sites to ease the management?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My impression from your list is that most of them are just gone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> TT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

[Ste]

Would it be possible/ acceptable to download the archive tiddlywikis and 
upload them to a tiddlyhost? Would that solve any js problems then? Of at 
the very least preserve them in a somewhat more accessible state? 

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 14:56:54 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> Yes, what is the purpose? To provide a working *link*, or to provide a 
> *description* of something that may or may not exist, as a starting point 
> for research? If you know something once existed, you can do your own 
> spelunking at archive.org ... the fact something disappears so easily 
> suggesting that it wasn't in high demand.
>
> There are 15 remaining items. None of them are from *tiddlyspot*.
>
> The problem with automating detection is that only the sites with 404 
> errors return crystal clear messages. Others time out, which might be a 
> local connectivity problem. Others put you on a master host site, others 
> put you on a "domain-for-sale" site. And then others exist, but the tiddler 
> content is gone. So the author moved it some place else or tired of the 
> project.
>
> I'm thinking of just posting the remaining ones as they are, possibly with 
> tag "badurl", and the community can provide information as they are 
> discovered or sought for. The framing on archive.org apparently breaks 
> the JS, so maybe posting those addresses isn't all that helpful anyways.
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:04:14 AM UTC-7 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sort of thinking that archive.org is kind of a last resort. I'm 
>>> hoping some of these sites have new homes somewhere else. 
>>
>>
>> Right! Actually no resort?
>>
>> For *the purpose* the sites need to be "live" and accessible, not 
>> archived?
>>
>> I am humbled by your dedication to do this so well!
>>
>> I do wonder if it might be possible to *automate,* in some way, probing 
>> of the online status of included sites to ease the management?
>>
>> My impression from your list is that most of them are just gone?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> TT
>>
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

[Ste]

Title: Stephen Teacher Academic Resources
Url: http://stephenteacher.uk.to/Star2
Problem: Site can’t be reached

Thats goneI was self hosting with my RasberryPi.  I'll put the resource 
back up at some point soon :)
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 15:18:08 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> Rather than reposting the updated list, I've posted it here:
>
> https://marxsal.github.io/tw-resources/#Plain%20listing%20bad%20URLs
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: hello all

[Ste]

Hello, welcome to the tiddlyverse and a friendly corner of the internet. 
Lots of really clever people here ready to help with tiddlywiki related 
problems. 

Ste
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 07:22:39 UTC+1 vishal.dig...@gmail.com wrote:

> i am new member

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Re: [tw5] Fetching tiddlers from one wiki to another

[Ste]

This is sounding exciting!  All I need to do now is get my IT to host:( 
:D

On Thursday, 22 April 2021 at 09:23:21 UTC+1 Jan wrote:

> Hi Saq, 
> I think that your plugin is great for educational scenarios - and there 
> CORS won't be a problem because as student's  and teacher's wikis are 
> likely to be hosted in the same domain. 
> I found the $filter in the widget - thanks for the hint.
>
> I would like to build / use a set of wikis where  
> -the teacher (me) has a wiki has a wiki which is serving material and 
> tasks. 
> -the students work on the tasks an build a portfolio doing this. There 
> your plugin would be great to import the tiddlers with the current material
> -the teacher has a anotherwiki to automatically collect the tiddlers 
> marked to be sent in as solved tasks. (Again your plugin could be very 
> usefull.)
> (What is still missing in my thought is an easy way for the sutdents to 
> interact in this construction)
>
> So thanks for helping me with your valuable tool.
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I found the way to implement a filter which is great. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tooltips, Infotips and Tiddlywiki: handling of position and issue with off screen flow

[Ste]

Wow, mentat completely passed me by!  That's amazing.  I can't believe it's 
tiddlywiki!
On Friday, 16 April 2021 at 05:15:29 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 2:52 AM Joshua Fontany  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>
> Hi Joshua
>
>>
>> There is code in the Mentat plugin (the virtual desktop conversion), 
>> which hacks the core to handle popups going offscreen. The author even has 
>> notes in his plugin about possibly merging it into the core. This would 
>> very much be worth doing, in my opinion.
>>
>> https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/
>>
>> Repopup 
>> 
>>
>>- A quick hack of a plugin that attempts to reposition tiddlywiki 
>>popups so that they don't run off the screen. It's not perfect and it 
>>doesn't seem to do much to normal dropdowns. But it's an okay fix until 
>> the 
>>popup mechanism can get a comprehensive overhaul. This plugin has been 
>>designed with the Volant, Engine, and Mentat Plugins in mind. So if you 
>> use 
>>it for something else, your mileage may vary.
>>
>> https://github.com/theSherwood/Mentat
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/theSherwood/Mentat/blob/master/src/tiddlers/system/plugins/admls/repopup/startup/repopup.js
>>
>>
> Many thanks for this. I remembered in the past there was some discussion 
> on popups, but I forgot about Mentat and Volant!
>  I will go through it to see how I can use it.
>
> Thank you again!
>
>
>  
>
>> I hope to wrap up my server experiments soon, and come back to this. Let 
>> me know if this is useful.
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>> On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:42:27 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mario,
>>>
>>> The issue with tooltip in TW is
>>>
>>> When tooltips are used at the edge of the screen, they go off screen 
>>> simply. As TW has a responsive layout one cannot determine where a text 
>>> with tooltip will appear!
>>> The problem is more when you use this with mobile browser (e.g Chrome on 
>>> Android)
>>>
>>> One use case for me is the Refnotes plugin where it uses 
>>> tooltips/infotips for notes, citations, etc.
>>>
>>> I did some googling and I see JS code needs to detect the position of 
>>> the element with tooltip and then decide how to display the tooltip 
>>> preventing off screen overflow.
>>> I saw popper.js is common!
>>>
>>> I also found a very small solution here 
>>> https://medium.com/carwow-product-engineering/building-a-simple-tooltip-component-that-never-goes-off-screen-c7039dcab5f9
>>> but I did not know how to use it with TW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 5:43 PM PMario  wrote:
>>>
 On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 1:13:08 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> Is there any good tool for using tooltip and infotip in Tiddlywiki!
> It seems popper is among the common tools but  I cannot find any 
> Tiddlywiki integration!
>
> url: https://github.com/popperjs/popper-core
>

 Hi, 
 There is no TW integration. 

 It is 20kByte of minified javascript code, just to create a tooltip? I 
 personally don't want to carry this as a dependency in the core. 
 It may be a 3rd-party plugin.

 If you would describe the problems you have with the TW tooltips in 
 more detail, we may be able to fix this.

 -m

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[tw5] Re: Richlnk

[Ste]

Hi Mat,

Never mind...just realised it's to do with the richlinks pdf..
So now I feel a bit foolish, but maybe this is now a *feature request*!

I had thought that the 
   
   - $:/richlink/iframe 
   <http://richlinks.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Frichlink%2Fiframe>

would allow a custom iframe to be set up and called with richlinks and so I 
have attempted <http://richlinks.tiddlyspot.com/;>> 
and varients therof...

and even:

\define rich-iframe(link, height:"250px")

.rich-iframe {height:$height$; }
\end

<$set name=id filter="[split:after[iframe\]]">
<$macrocall $name=rich-iframe link=<> height=<<1>> />


and adding iframe to the dictionary and inserting links "iframe/https//"

but have so far failed :(

Ste

On Thursday, 15 April 2021 at 19:27:35 UTC+1 Mat wrote:

> What system you on? It works for me on Win10 Chrome+FF.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 5:38:22 PM UTC+2 Ste wrote:
>
>> Just got a few mins to add a few more bookmarks, but then got 
>> sidetracked, obviously, bye richlink by Mat!
>>
>> I never could get the richlink I-Frame to work...it's the only one which 
>> doesn't have demo!
>> I'm sure I'm just being slow, but anyone any insight?  Mat?
>>
>> http://richlinks.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Ste
>>
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[tw5] Richlnk

[Ste]

Just got a few mins to add a few more bookmarks, but then got sidetracked, 
obviously, bye richlink by Mat!

I never could get the richlink I-Frame to work...it's the only one which 
doesn't have demo!
I'm sure I'm just being slow, but anyone any insight?  Mat?

http://richlinks.tiddlyspot.com/

Ste

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[tw5] Google Analytics Plugin and G-Analytics by Sycom

[Ste]

Question 1.
I'm trying to get Google Analytics going on a wiki and just filling in the 
G-BLAH code in the plugin box doesn't seem to do anything.

Neither does copying the tag code from the analytics site and dropping it 
in a $:\tags\Rawmarkup tiddler to get it into the header.

Am I missing something (Probably) or has Google tweaked and broken 
something? (It all seems a lot more complicated google side)

Question 2.
Did the extra bits from Sycom's plugin get integrated into the official one 
so google can track tiddler views?

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Re: [tw5] Fetching tiddlers from one wiki to another

[Ste]

Jumps in, mentions twederation 
, jumps out again. 

On Sunday, 4 April 2021 at 10:28:31 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 1:38 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>
>
> Hi Saq,
>
>>
>> So a lot of things are still up in the air. As I mentioned this is a 
>> quick prototype without a lot of pre-planning and I haven't had the chance 
>> to figure out a good workflow yet even for my specific needs. I'll try to 
>> answer your questions as well as I can at this point,
>>
>  
>
>> but some things we may need to discuss and figure out together.
>>
>
> Sure!
>
>>  
>>
>>> One question: In Searchwikis (https://github.com/kookma/TW-Searchwikis) 
>>> it uses index tiddlers from target wikis to search them
>>> The question is: Can I use Get Remote Tiddlers plugin to automatically 
>>> update the indeed tiddlers in my main wiki i.e to fetch latest changes?
>>>
>>
>> Yes that should be possible as long as the wikis are on the same domain 
>> or served with CORS headers. The catch is that for every wiki, the code 
>> will be fetching the entire TW file to extract the tiddlers, which means 
>> more bandwidth used and also possibly some lag in the wiki depending on the 
>> number of wikis being fetched and the hardware. I want to experiment with 
>> using the same technique with an uglified TW with Flibbles' plugin, or a TW 
>> with the core in an external js file. Especially the second option should 
>> load considerably faster.
>>
>
> I did not know the whole wiki is fetched, then yes for many external wikis 
> or large wikis we will have some time lags! I use the Flibbles uglify, I am 
> very happy with that, but for this case still the empty.html is around 
> 1.2MB, the external.js seems promising here!
>
>>
>> Another option that might make the most sense for Searchwikis is to 
>> generate and save the index as a separate file. This would need far less 
>> bandwidth to fetch and should overall be considerably faster. For wikis 
>> served by Github pages we could even try to implement an option to save the 
>> index file automatically each time the wiki is saved.
>>
>
> Great! Right now I have to open each target wiki separately, update the 
> index, export it, and import to the central wiki!
>
>>  
>>
>>> A more radical question is can " Get Remote Tiddlers " deprecate 
>>> searchwikis and lets users search other wikis from a central wiki?
>>>
>>
>> Fetching tiddlers from a remote wiki already entails loading the entire 
>> wiki and extracting all its tiddlers and creating an array of tiddler 
>> titles. So yes, theoretically you could skip the part of Searchwikis that 
>> creates the index and just use Get Remote Tiddlers to create the index for 
>> the other wikis. However, the same caveats apply in terms of bandwidth 
>> usage and that with many wikis being fetched in the background it could 
>> slow down the wiki when that is happening. Using TW files with an external 
>> core.js file would be very helpful here.
>>
>> Having to rely on CORS headers being present is indeed a limitation but 
>> this overall approach (rather than the code I posted specifically) opens 
>> some interesting possibilities as well.
>>
>> If you're interested, there's a small discussion here about enabling CORS 
>> on TiddlyHost: https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/issues/112
>>
>
> I will!
>
>>
>> I am also curious to see if TW on Fission opens up for similar workflows.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>
>
> Thank you Saq!
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[tw5] Re: Lag in edit-text widget

[Ste]

Have you tried typing more slowly? ;)

On Friday, 2 April 2021 at 12:44:52 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> Hi,
> If you go to tiddlywiki.com and edit there. Do you have the same problem. 
> ... If yes, ... it is a problem. If no it's your wiki
> -m
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 4:16:20 AM UTC+2 clutterstack wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Mark. No, I used a separate state tiddler. It works fine, it's 
>> just a bit hard to type. I've typed a huge amount into laggy widgets over 
>> the past year; I just thought it was my fault and that I'd fix my plugins 
>> eventually. Now I'm not sure I can fix them without getting "closer to the 
>> metal."
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:54:17 PM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> Are you trying to edit text or fields in the SAME tiddler that your edit 
>>> widget is in? Because that will cause problems. You have to edit the 
>>> contents of some other tiddler.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 5:53:32 PM UTC-7 clutterstack wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I've been trying all sorts of things to make typing in my personal 
 plugins less laggy, and I've realised that all I have to do to make typing 
 laggy is to do it within an edit-text widget in view mode, no plugin 
 required. I can get down to 5fps typing in an edit-text widget in a new 
 tiddler on tiddlywiki.com (it's almost 10x as fast in the normal 
 tiddler editor).

 Has anyone else noticed this? Is this a well-known thing? I haven't 
 found a lot of clues but my google-fu may be weak today.

 Thanks,
 Chris

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Semi off topic] How best create screencasts (about TW)?

[Ste]

I've been using OBS studio for my screen casts. It's free open source and, 
most importantly for me at least is available through portableapps.com so I 
can install it on my works of without bothering the IT dept. 
It's good. Let's you select your sources.. Webcam/screen 1 / screen 2 etc 
and do picture in picture recording. So, for example I can have the 
tutorial in a small window in the corner of the main screen as I use the 
software. 

Ste
On Friday, 2 April 2021 at 09:55:58 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Joshua,
> Vimo Chrome plugin looks amazing! Is it possible to save an offline video 
> or you have to upload?
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 12:52 PM Joshua Fontany  
> wrote:
>
>> I have been considering using the Vimeo Chrome Record plugin:
>>
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimeo-record-screen-webca/ejfmffkmeigkphomnpabpdabfddeadcb?hl=en
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:52:32 AM UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> In another thread, fellow tiddleur Mohammad suggested I make screencasts 
>>> to demo some stuff. I agree and it's one of those "ought to do" things I've 
>>> been thinking of forever.
>>>
>>> Actually, if there's a very simple workflow we could encourage more 
>>> people to do this overall. I think it would benefit the TW project.
>>>
>>> So how can I do this "very easily"? It must be super simple. I don't 
>>> want to have to study a lot of stuff about editing and special software and 
>>> yet I want the following:
>>>
>>> Toggle live between recording:
>>>  - only the screen (preferably a specific browser tab)
>>>  - the screen plus also a small frame with my face in a corner
>>>  - only my face
>>> Add a premade intro or end segment to the result.
>>> Put up on youtube easily.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

[Ste]

Mark, amazing effort.  You have put the rest of us to shame! :)

On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 18:06:37 UTC Mark S. wrote:

> It looks like a great start!
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:44:12 AM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’ve added a very basic interactive search capability to the aggregator.
>>
>> It just does a dumb case-insensitive literal match of the search string 
>> against the tags, url and description of the links. In particular, it 
>> doesn’t understand double quotes, plusses or minuses or any fancy boolean 
>> syntax, and there’s no sensible ranking of results. Although, hopefully all 
>> those features will come.
>>
>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> Let me know how it goes,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Mar 2021, at 19:42, PMario  wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:45:49 PM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>
>>> Is it reasonable to call something *deprecated* if it hasn't been 
>>> announced as such by the author? That's the best term I can think of, 
>>> though it is a little bit on the technical side.
>>
>>
>> I think deprecated is the right term, is something is superseded by a 
>> newer or better version. ... 
>>
>> What about "*stalled*" ... for "stopped making progress since xxx years"
>>
>> -m
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[tw5] Re: Gantt Charts & Kanban Board in TW?

[Ste]

http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
also does a more interactive Gantt style chart.

On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 13:30:35 UTC PMario wrote:

> Hi,
> Found it: 
> https://gt6796c.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5:%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%20%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%2Fgant
>
> BUT be warned! 
>
> If you want to have all those functions together in 1 wiki, it will be a 
> challenge!!! .. NON of those projects are designed to work together.
>
> Especially mermaid will be tricky. The GANTT chart isn't interactive. 
>
> It contains some really cool stuff, but it adds several external libraries 
> to the wiki that may be 4 years old. And it hasn't been changed since 4 
> years. ... 
>
> -mario
>
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[tw5] Re: What about data integrity? (And hi, I'm new!)

[Ste]

Yes.

Your essential data would be just fine.  Stroll drift etc do amazing and 
clever things with layout and with your tiddlers, but they don't 
fundamentally change your wiki.  Obviously if you moved your stuff to an 
empty wiki you would lose some of the functions you have with drift/ stroll 
and any other tweaks you have made but your tiddelrs would all be present 
and correct.

On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 03:31:46 UTC David Archer wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> After a long, very interesting journey to search for the best way to 
> gather my thoughts as I continue a lifelong vocation, I'm a new TiddlyWiki 
> user. I've been using TW5 for about a month with a local file.
>
> Now I want to create a new TW as a static site online to do some work and 
> unfinished writing in public. I want the layout to be more intuitive to 
> those who aren't wikiers, so I've been looking at Drift, which I've seen 
> mentioned here. 
>
> Whatever the theme or plugins used, I want this wiki to last forever. 
>
> But I'm not a programmer. 
>
> Let's say I use Drift (or Stroll or any other modded version) to start 
> this up. Then I build a large body of work, say 100s of tiddlers all 
> cross-linked beautifully. I backup my site regularly, and everything's 
> great. And then for some reason I find I need to change to another version 
> of TW, or remove plugins, etc. Is my essential data (the tiddlers, their 
> content and their links) still safe? I.e., is it transferrable to another 
> TW file?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts about this. And mega credit goes to the Ness Labs 
> blog and Anne-Laure Le Cunff for getting me started.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Making zoomin story view scroll to the top of the tiddler

[Ste]

There is a plugin topstoryview by felix., no clue if works with zoom view 
but might offend inspiration? 
https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TopStoryView


On Saturday, 20 March 2021 at 17:31:36 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been considering using the zoomin story view for *Grok TiddlyWiki *to 
> make life easier for people who aren't used to scrolling through a bunch of 
> different tiddlers, but have noticed that when I click on a link within a 
> tiddler, the browser doesn't scroll to the top of the newly opened tiddler. 
> Given that sections consist of a number of tiddlers transcluded together, 
> they are often larger than the screen, so I suspect this is enough to 
> cancel out any benefit in behavior standardization.
>
> Is there an easy way to adjust the scroll when using *zoomin*? I'm not in 
> the mood to dive into rendering JavaScript today, but perhaps someone else 
> has done this before.
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Re: [tw5] Looking for a simple and mobile friendly wiki for a public website

[Ste]

Hi Ivan, 
As tiddlywiki is an html file it is basically a web site out of the box. 
You only really need somewhere to host it. That can range from Dropbox to 
your 
Own domain name running a node js instance on your raspberry pi with lots 
of options inbetween. 
Possibly the easiest way to get a wiki online at the moment is the just 
announced tiddlyhost. https://tiddlyhost.com/

Ste

On Friday, 19 March 2021 at 06:52:25 UTC Mohammad wrote:

> You need to customize and build your own wiki by adding plugins and themes.
> One very good theme for Mobile/Desktop is Notebook from Nico!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:46 PM IvanPsy  wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> I want to create a public wiki about my professional topics, and I'm 
>> looking for the right platform.
>>
>> The features I'm looking for my wiki are:
>> - easy to manage both on desktop and mobile (iPad, iPhone)
>> - easy backlinks, since I'm the only editor
>> - nice image and video embedding
>> - a way to highlight some pages such as About Me, Contacts, Resources, 
>> etc...
>> - fast note creation and upgrading both on desktop and mobile: since some 
>> notes will be long format and others just atomic notes, a complex creation 
>> process would eat too much time (one of the reasons why I'm not considering 
>> Wordpress)
>>
>> I see many Tiddlywiki users have converted their Tiddlywiki to a website, 
>> but how easy is it for a non-Tech guy?
>>
>> Of course other wiki suggestions are welcome.
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[tw5] Re: New to TW? Hang in there.

[Ste]

And if you don't get an answer, give your post a bump! 

On Thursday, 18 March 2021 at 20:59:06 UTC TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> The complexity of starting a wiki in TW is somewhat like Italians 
> incomprehension of English ... sexy, but a mind-fuddle ... 
> Prisencolinensinainciusol 
>
> This group is *very* helpful so just ask, even if you feel small at first.
>
> TT
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[tw5] Re: Charts.CSS

[Ste]

That's quite cool! 


On Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at 23:27:20 UTC History Buff wrote:

> Oh my. Thanks for sharing that! That may be just what I've been looking 
> for. I'll definitely give it a try anyway.
>
> Damon
>
> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-7 Anjar wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just discovered the CSS data visualization framework charts.css: 
>> https://chartscss.org/ In short, you just add CSS to a table and get a 
>> chart out of it. I know there already exist charting frameworks for 
>> tiddlywiki, but charts.css looks very nice and simple
>>
>> A small working example:
>>
>> ```
>> \define barchart(vals)
>> <$list filter="[[$vals$]split[;]]" variable 
>> ="var">
>> <$set filter="[split[]allbefore[,]join[]]" name="lab"><$set 
>> filter="[split[]allafter[,]join[]]" name="val">
>>  <>  >>
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define st() --size:$(val)$;
>>
>> https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/charts.css/dist/charts.min.css;>
>>
>> 
>> #bar-example-10 {
>>   height: 200px;
>>   max-width: 300px;
>>   margin: 0 auto;
>> }
>> 
>>
>> <>
>> ```
>>
>> I hope you are all healthy and safe!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Anders
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

[Ste]

Evans formula plug in makes it a little less painful.

On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 22:53:06 UTC dop...@gmail.com wrote:

> Believe me, I've been looking at them for days, and only now it struck me 
> how to use them. I'm still trying to understand if there's a formula to 
> have only 2 action-setfield performing the whole operation (one for the 
> first field and one for the second, that needs the first to compute). Thanks
> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 23:39:42 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I just transposed your calculations exactly as they were, as I wasn't 
>> sure of the logic or which of the interim values you might need.
>>
>> See https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Expression for an explanation on = 
>> and + prefixes for filter runs.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:50:58 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> While looking for solutions to my other problem (where you replied!), I 
>>> found another solution to this by using =[field] =[field] +[sum[]] and 
>>> +[product[]]. I didn't know how = and + worked, and I don't know if this is 
>>> simpler - it has way less stratification of vars - but it works nonetheless.
>>>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
>>> =[get[level1]] =[get[level2]] +[sum[]] }}}/>
>>>
>>> <$vars
>>> hps={{{ [{!!class}get[hd]multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}
>>> hp1={{{ =[get[level1]] =[{!!class}get[hd]] +[product[]] 
>>> }}}
>>> hp2={{{ =[get[level2]] =[{!!class2}get[hd]] +[product[]] 
>>> }}}
>>> hocon={{{ =[get[modcon]] =[get[level]] 
>>> +[product[]] }}}>
>>>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" 
>>> $value={{{ =[] =[] =[] =[] +[sum[]] }}}/>
>>>
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 17:30:53 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 The key is that you cannot access the value of a variable, within the 
 same vars widget that sets it.

 So this:
  <$vars a=2 b=3 c=a+b>

 Should be:

 <$vars a=2 b=3>
 <$vars c=a+b>

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: SheetsIN - Import from Google Sheets into TW

[Ste]

I turn my back for a week or so and awsome things happen!

On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 22:32:41 UTC Álvaro wrote:

>
> Great work! Thank you to you both!
> El miércoles, 10 de marzo de 2021 a las 18:16:14 UTC+1, Mohammad escribió:
>
>> Congrats Mark and Mat!
>> Very useful indeed with many opportunities!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 12:47 PM Mat  wrote:
>>
>>> There is (1) Good news (2) HUGE news and (3) Bad news!
>>>
>>> The good news is: Mark and I have made a TW plugin to import from Google 
>>> Sheets. *Every row becomes a tiddler*!
>>>
>>> The HUGE news is that this is the *linchpin*, the *kingpin*, *the **Rosetta 
>>> Stone*, to turn pretty much anything into tiddlers because Google 
>>> Sheets can be made to import data from *other *services such as your 
>>> Google Drive, your Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, your GCalendar, stock charts 
>>> and hundreds (thousands?) of more services 
>>> . Whatever you want 
>>> as tiddlers, you can get it. OK, almost.
>>>
>>> The bad news is: The SheetsIN plugin is only HALF of the solution! We 
>>> need a SheetsOUT plugin to get tiddlers *into* Google Sheets. If this 
>>> were possible, Google Sheets can then be used as a full backend for TW... 
>>> *and 
>>> *tiddlers can be sent as email, tweets, calendar events, etc etc. 
>>>
>>> So, if you have knowledge about how to "export to Google Sheets" do 
>>> please shout out.
>>>
>>> Thus, *Mark S *and I proudly give thee the first half of the *TiddlyGoo 
>>> suite* ;-)
>>>
>>>- Demo and download site 
>>>- Github repository for dev  
>>>
>>> We also hope people will share their Google scripts 
>>>  (!) that connect Google 
>>> Sheets with other services. This is only indirectly a TW matter but will 
>>> benefit us all. I will soon share a script that imports file data from 
>>> Drive to Sheets so you easily show images stored on Drive in TW.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Exporting Tiddly Maps to a static site | digital gardening

[Ste]

Not sure.  My absolute non-expert opinion is that your tiddlymap wouldn't 
work in static.  But I have no evidence to back this up :)  Have you tried 
tidgraph?  would that suit your needs?
http://ihm4u.github.io/tw5plugs/

On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 11:25:04 UTC flohit...@googlemail.com wrote:

> Hello, 
> As I said in another post, I'm aiming to base my "digital garden" like 
> blog on tiddlywiki - inspired by this 
> https://nesslabs.com/digital-garden-tiddlywiki. 
> Before I turned to TW (because it gives a very cool base as it is already 
> a notetaking tool, able to work on multiple platforms) I was trying to 
> modify some existing Jekyll (a simple SSG) themes to fit my needs. One 
> thing I liked was having the ability to display my "notes" and other kinds 
> of posts as a graph/map , which this template does for example: (Scroll a 
> bit downwards): 
> https://digital-garden-jekyll-template.netlify.app/consistency - where 
> the edges are links to specific sites.
>
> As Tiddlywiki already has a powerful mapping tool in TiddlyMaps, the 
> question that comes to my mind would be, if it would be possible to export 
> special TiddlyMaps that I generate in TW into the site - like I said an 
> "overview" map would be the most important usecase, but there could 
> certainly be other ones! 
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Unilink and my possibly unrealistic wants...

[Ste]

Thanks for that Mario.
Just done a quick test, [[velocity|??]] returns Angular Velocity, not 
Velocity.  It's not a big problem as this will mostly be used with longer 
titles.  Thanks again!

On Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at 21:56:20 UTC PMario wrote:

> @Ste
> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/ V2.1.0 has been released: 
> Have a closer look at "Uni-link Search" function. 
>
> [[case insensitive title|??]] ... There are 2 question marks, the second 
> one indicates the "case insensitive search"
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 9:28:30 PM UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>
>> Hi Mario! 
>> I'd forgotton about this! 
>> Yes that sound like it would do the job. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 16:54:43 UTC PMario wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ste,
>>>
>>> With the latest discussions going on about "link attributes" I did 
>>> re-visit the "feature wishlist" and came back to this thread. 
>>>
>>> What do you think about 
>>>  - title: This is a Test
>>>  - link: [[this is a test|??]]
>>>
>>> Where the second ? means: "search for the exact title ... case 
>>> insensitive"  Which is pretty much exactly what you requested. 
>>>
>>> On the other hand the "search for title" function in the core has the 
>>> same possibilities as the search[] operator 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#search%20Operator>. ... 
>>>
>>> -mario
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Unilink and my possibly unrealistic wants...

[Ste]

Hi Mario! 
I'd forgotton about this! 
Yes that sound like it would do the job. 

Thanks! 

On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 16:54:43 UTC PMario wrote:

> Hi Ste,
>
> With the latest discussions going on about "link attributes" I did 
> re-visit the "feature wishlist" and came back to this thread. 
>
> What do you think about 
>  - title: This is a Test
>  - link: [[this is a test|??]]
>
> Where the second ? means: "search for the exact title ... case 
> insensitive"  Which is pretty much exactly what you requested. 
>
> On the other hand the "search for title" function in the core has the same 
> possibilities as the search[] operator 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#search%20Operator>. ... 
>
> -mario
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.2.0

[Ste]

Hi Mohammed, 
Just installed your plugin library and Shiraz.  WOW you've done a lot of 
stuff!
Thanks :)
Now I just need to find time to explore it all!

Stephen

On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 15:45:44 UTC Mohammad wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 6:23 PM dieg...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>
> Hi Diego,
>
>>
>> I am *once again* realizing just how powerful, thorough, and wonderful 
>> Shiraz is. It really is amazing. If someone just takes the time to read 
>> everything that's available, you'll be amazed.
>>
>
> That's very kind of you! I think Shiraz by using a small part of css 
> classes of Bootstrap (a very popular and yet wonderful CSS framework) is 
> sufficient for creating almost many visual elements you like to include in 
> your wiki/webpage/blog/doc, etc...
>
> To this end add dynamic tables and image macros! One drawback I really 
> have to work on is the size of the plugin! It is 110kB while it is not too 
> much but I like to decrease it!
>
> I have made my own TW app with all these essential plugins 
> (Shiraz+Commander+Todolist+Favorites+Utility+Trashbin AND 
> relink+CodeMirror+CodeMirror subplugins) and then use the wonderful Uglify 
> from Flibbles to create a minified version and I have an empty.html = 
> 2.636MB which is 10kB less than the official empty.html
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
>>
>> Thank you! 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements like 
>>> alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>>
>>> Revision 2.2.0
>>>
>>>- Date: [3rd Mar 2021]
>>>- [FIXED] updated to TW 5.1.23
>>>- [NEW] the new pagination feature for dynamic tables
>>>- [NEW] the tbl-clone special column is used by default in table 
>>>edit mode
>>>- [NEW] documentation for pagination was added
>>>- [NEW] details macro got new input parameters label, srcClass and 
>>>sumClass added and style and sum were dropped
>>>
>>> Nice to see goodies like
>>>
>>>
>>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fdetails-faqs
>>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fslider-faqs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Roam Research style TW5 instance

[Ste]

Thanks for the heads up. I'll try and have a look later today. 

On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 20:05:01 UTC arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Recently a reddit user named trisaster 
>  posted a Roam research style TW5 
> instance 
> .
>  
> I really liked his work . I 
> request those who haven't seen this yet to go through it and give your 
> valuable feedback. Since he is not using google groups, you can provide 
> feedback in reddit 
> 
>  or 
> twitter . This is 
> his GitHub page  (I am not 
> sure whether he is active in GitHub or not).

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[tw5] Re: How to embed a tiddler(s) inside a gmail message

[Ste]

Just tried that, that's cool!
Doesn't work in google groups though :(

Ste
 
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 07:46:59 UTC TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao Mat
>
> Mat wrote:
>
>> This is (1) almost off topic and (2) way too intricate to do a lot...
>
>
> Actually it is very on-topic. Most everyone would at some point want to 
> use TW seamlessly with email. And its possible.
>
> I personally think we could do a lot more to illustrate and promote 
> "integrations" with email, posting to social networks etc.
>
> ...but you'll agree it's interesting.
>>
>
> It is. The method in the video is "insertion" of the content into the 
> browser  "code inspector". 
>
> Just FYI I use a couple of *other* methods, which I find less techy. 
> The one that works well for HTML email for me is enabled by installing in 
> a browser the "Markdown Here" browser extension 
> <https://markdown-here.com/> (it works fine with straight HTML as well as 
> Markdown). 
> An example result you can see here, where I posted to GG using it (Gmail & 
> GG use the same engine so it works on both) in nice looking HTML ... 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/GHbwtMIrA3I/m/eJyRkqyKAQAJ
>
> Interesting topic!
> TT
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[tw5] Re: Athens: a VC backed, open-source Roam competitor

[Ste]

Tiddlywiki getting a bit of a battering in the comments...yeah it's good 
but it's ugly, it's too hard, single file good till it's not
Still the discussion is currently on a question..

tangjeff0  10 hours ago 
 [–]

The first time I used Tiddly years ago, the UX never resonated with me so I 
wasn't able to get over the learning curve.

More recently, one of our users gave me a pretty detailed tour of their 
Tiddly, which shares sentiments of the other commenters. Single file is 
great until it's not. Lots of plugins but requires manual config. Needing 
to startup a server to collaborate wasn't great.

What "killer features" do you think Tiddly has?


I don't have time right now...any one want to jump in with the killer?

On Wednesday, 3 March 2021 at 02:53:09 UTC Ed Heil wrote:

> "you can't really make these apps with JavaScript"
>
> News to me!
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 4:25:58 PM UTC-5 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> A YC (venture capital firm) backed open-source Roam alternative launched 
>> today on HackerNews: 
>>
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26316793
>>
>> Some relevant parts of the announcement (my opinion only):
>>
>>
>>- Athens is an open-source and local-first alternative to Roam 
>>Research. Roam Research is a notetaking application, and *what they 
>>really got right was the "bidirectional link."*
>>- With bidirectional links, you never have to worry about where you 
>>write a note. Bidirectional links allow you to connect any two notes 
>>together, creating a knowledge graph. 
>>- This is why Athens is about more than just notetaking. *I believe 
>>networked applications with bidirectional links and data could become a 
>> new 
>>category itself.*
>>- Of course, this *bidirectional idea isn't new*. In fact, it goes as 
>>far back as the origin of the Web. It's the original concept of hypertext 
>>and Xanadu, which Ted Nelson has been advocating for decades. More 
>>recently, aspects of it were attempted by the Semantic Web. *Yet the 
>>adoption never really caught on, until perhaps now.*
>>- Something else that's interesting about the most powerful networked 
>>tools like Roam and Athens is t*hat you can't really make these apps 
>>with JavaScript or plaintext/markdown.* *For maximum power, you want 
>>a true graph database*. Both Roam and Athens leverage a front-end 
>>graph database called DataScript, which is written in Clojure(Script). 
>>JavaScript doesn't have a native analog, and Neo4j is only server-side. 
>> *This 
>>matters because I believe this is the first consumer use case for graph 
>>databases*. I believe both Roam and Athens are general-purpose 
>>platforms where individuals and organizations can centralize all of their 
>>knowledge and tasks. I believe the graph is the right data structure to 
>> do 
>>this with.
>>
>>
>> I find this fascination with bi-directional links without a huge mention 
>> of TW slightly frustrating. 
>>
>> Also, his point about a graph database is an interesting one to consider. 
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> Diego
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Field Search

[Ste]

@TiddlyTweeter
Pray you never meet my students
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 15:04:04 UTC TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> I am always amazed at the *Patience of Programmers *to lay out *yet again 
> *what they bone-know. 
>
> That was good! V. helpful to the questioner.
>
> It would drive me *mad* having to do that *everyday*.
>
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 14:03:18 UTC+1 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 1:56:48 PM UTC+1 PMario wrote:
>> Hi Walt, 
>>
>> The "tabs" are added to the search result dropdown and to the "Standard" 
>> AdvancedSearch tab. This mechanism is built into TW standard.
>>
>> [image: field-search-01.gif]
>>
>>
>> >On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:10:18 AM UTC+1 ludwa6 wrote:
>> >Looking for a way to search across fields other than Title or Text, i 
>> was inspired by this video  
>> to try the Field Search 
>>  plugin (edition? am 
>> not clear which it is, plugin or edition) by @PMario, which looks like 
>> providing exactly the functionality i need. 
>>
>> There are several discussion here in the group about *searching *"*all 
>> the fields*"
>>
>> The plugin was created after a discussion here in the group, where some 
>> users wanted a simple way to *separate *the search results into "*title*" 
>> and "*text*" only tabs. 
>>
>> Because I personally wanted to have "*caption*" and "*aliases*" I did 
>> add them as well. Sometimes I want to search "system" tiddlers, without the 
>> need to switch to the AdvancedSearch tiddler. That's why I did a the `
>> *+system*` button to search results.
>>
>> That's the reason, why the options are as they are. ... You are right. It 
>> should be more flexible. 
>>  
>> >However: It's not working as i expected, based on what was shown in the 
>> video, in that when i click on the new "Fields" tab that appears when i 
>> enter a string in the search widget, it does not deliver a set of results, 
>> but rather gives me the option to either edit or visit the tiddler:  
>> `$:/plugins/wikilabs/field-search/ui/fieldWrapper
>> $:/tags/SearchResults`. 
>>
>> This list is only there to sort the tab order.
>>
>>  [image: field-search-02.gif]
>>
>>
>> >NB: the version i've just installed (0.2.4) is different from that of 
>> Mario's YouTube demo (v.0.2.2); also, i'm not working in a "clean" instance 
>> of TW, but rather one also has latest version of the (soon-to-be-celebrated 
>> ;-) Google Sheets plugin currently in development 
>> ... So maybe 
>> there's some incompatibility here, i don't know.  If so, i hope it can be 
>> sorted soon, because these two plugins have the potential to make of TW a 
>> super-powerful tool for exploratory data analysis, as i see it.
>>
>> The field-search plugin doesn't overwrite any core tiddlers. It only uses 
>> existing TW functions to add tabs to the search results. 
>>  
>> >Anyway: from my end-user view, i don't particularly care about this 
>> under-the-hood stuff; i just want the simplest possible solution to the 
>> problem of searching my user-defined fields across the wiki with a minimal 
>> number of clicks.  Any advice about how best to accomplish this would be 
>> most appreciated!
>>
>> Searching "all Fields" should be automatically selected after you 
>> installed the plugin. I had a short look at Tobias'es list. ... The next 
>> version of field-search will have a different formatting of the output. I 
>> think the field should be shown. 
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Differences between Muuri Touch and Muuri Storyview?

[Ste]

I THINK (and could well be wrong...) Muuri story view is a second attempt 
building on the experience of the first and so is probably the one to use.  
I think I have that the correct way round!

On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 03:47:17 UTC Sapphireslinger wrote:

> ... and is one of them better than the other for use as a public blog to 
> be read on both desktops and smartphones?
>

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Re: [tw5] [Plugin announcement]: Toggle! (formerly CleanTids)

[Ste]

Excellent!  I have added!  Thanks Dave.

On Monday, 1 March 2021 at 08:11:00 UTC Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> Lovely! Thank you for sharing!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:53 AM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Yes, you read that right, I finally got off my bum and learned Tinka and 
>> created my very first plugin.
>>
>> The Toggle! plugin is a sidebar tab that allows you to toggle 
>> viewtemplate, edittemplate, sidebar and other visual elements. 
>>
>> It has the ability to reduce your tiddlers down to mere boxes of text, 
>> with thinner margins, smaller titles, and even reducing or removing the gap 
>> between tiddlers. 
>>
>> It also has two ways to view backlinks. Don't tell that Stroll guy. Oh 
>> wait, that's me.
>>
>> Demo and download: https://giffmex.org/gifts/Toggle/toggle.html 
>>
>> If you followed my CleanTids experiment, please note: there are some 
>> major changes. Also, I totally re-wrote the introductory tiddlers, since I 
>> had changed so much. (which are not part of the plugin).
>>
>> If you are using CleanTids and want Toggle! instead, first delete the 
>> tiddlers listed below from your file. Then add the new Toggle! plugin to 
>> your file.
>>
>>- $:/.giffmex/sidebartabs/Toggle
>>- $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/Backlinks
>>- $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/Transclude
>>- $:/.giffmex/Stylesheet/CleanTids
>>- $:/.giffmex/Stylesheet/CleanTidsNoMargin
>>- $:/.giffmex/Stylesheet/ToggleTab
>>- $:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate2
>>
>> Let me know if you find any glitches. Enjoy. - Dave
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[tw5] Re: Hello TW world and calculation question

[Ste]

You might also try this plugin for a more excel like expeiance. 
https://chronicles.wiki/TiddlyWikiFormula/

On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 16:39:29 UTC Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:21:46 AM UTC-8 brad.d...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> ...how to do calculations and formulas in TW. At the moment I would like 
>> to do the following:
>> =INT(({{!!myfield}}-10)/2)
>>
>
> Calculations are done using the "filter" syntax.  There are several ways 
> to do this.
>
> * direct rendering using "filtered transclusion"
> {{{ [{!!myfield}subtract[10]divide[2]trunc[]] }}}
>
> * using the $set widget with "filter" parameter
> <$set name="result" filter="[{!!myfield}subtract[10]divide[2]trunc[]]">
>
> * using the $vars widget with filtered transclusion as a parameter
> <$vars result={{{ [{!!myfield}subtract[10]divide[2]trunc[]] }}}>
>
> Notes:
> * within the filter syntax, field references use *single* curly braces.
> * there isn't any filter syntax for using parentheses in calculations, so 
> the order of operations is very important
> * sometimes this means using several filters to calculate intermediate 
> results and then combining them.
>
> For example, to calculate something like this:
> INT(({!!myfield} / 2) - ({!!myfield} - 5))
>
> You could write:
> <$vars part1={{{ [{!!myfield}divide[2]] }}} part2={{{ 
> [{!!myfield}subtract[5]] }}}>
> <$vars result={{{ [subtracttrunc[]] }}}
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Help with the helpbutton macro..

[Ste]

Just a minor thing for anyone else, Eric's awsome solution is missing a > 
after <$tiddler tiddler=<> so it should be <$tiddler 
tiddler=<>> and works like a charm!  Thanks once again.

On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 16:37:34 UTC Ste wrote:

> Thank you Eric,
> Much appreciated.  I had thought it might be the words 'current tiddler'  
> but had no clue what to do about it!
>
> On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 14:23:23 UTC Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-8 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> \define HelpButton(label, ButtonText:?)
>>> ^^(<$button popup="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""" 
>>> class='tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink'>$ButtonText$)<$reveal 
>>> type='popup' state="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""">>> class='tc-drop-down' 
>>> style='width:1500px;max-width:75vw;white-space:pre-wrap;padding:10px;text-align:left;font-size:1.5em;border-radus:0.5em;'><$transclude
>>>  
>>> field="""$label$"""/>^^
>>> \end
>>>
>> Now, I have a tabs list:
>>>
>> <>
>>>
>> ...the help button shows when in the tabbed list but works perfectly in 
>>> the original tiddler.
>>>
>>
>> The problem arises because popup's "state" tiddler (
>> $:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$) depends on the value of 
>> $(currentTiddler)$.
>>
>> In the "original" tiddler, this value is the title of that tiddler.  
>> However, when shown in a tab, the value is the title of the tiddler 
>> containing the entire tab set, rather than the title of the tab content 
>> tiddler itself.
>>
>> As explained in https://tiddlywiki.com/#tabs%20Macro:
>> *The currentTiddler variable is not affected by the tabs macro. This can 
>> put you in trouble if the list of tabs includes tiddlers that depend on the 
>> value of the currentTiddler,*
>>
>> One way to account for this is to wrap your macro within a $tiddler 
>> widget, like this:
>> <$tiddler tiddler=<><>
>>
>> What this does:
>> * when the content is shown in the "original" tiddler, the value of 
>> <> is undefined, so the $tiddler widget has no effect
>> * when the content is shown in a tab, the value of <> is 
>> set to the same as the <>
>>
>> Note that, to make this usage a bit cleaner, you could re-write your code 
>> as follows:
>> \define HelpButton(label, ButtonText:?) <$tiddler 
>> tiddler=<><>
>> \define HelpButton_inner(label, ButtonText:?)
>> ^^(<$button popup="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""" 
>> class='tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink'>$ButtonText$)<$reveal 
>> type='popup' state="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""">> class='tc-drop-down' 
>> style='width:1500px;max-width:75vw;white-space:pre-wrap;padding:10px;text-align:left;font-size:1.5em;border-radus:0.5em;'><$transclude
>>  
>> field="""$label$"""/>^^
>> \end
>>
>> The first macro adds the $tiddler wrapper and then invokes the actual 
>> HelpButton code (now renamed HelpButton_inner)
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Help with the helpbutton macro..

[Ste]

Thank you Eric,
Much appreciated.  I had thought it might be the words 'current tiddler'  
but had no clue what to do about it!

On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 14:23:23 UTC Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-8 Ste wrote:
>
>> \define HelpButton(label, ButtonText:?)
>> ^^(<$button popup="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""" 
>> class='tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink'>$ButtonText$)<$reveal 
>> type='popup' state="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""">> class='tc-drop-down' 
>> style='width:1500px;max-width:75vw;white-space:pre-wrap;padding:10px;text-align:left;font-size:1.5em;border-radus:0.5em;'><$transclude
>>  
>> field="""$label$"""/>^^
>> \end
>>
> Now, I have a tabs list:
>>
> <>
>>
> ...the help button shows when in the tabbed list but works perfectly in 
>> the original tiddler.
>>
>
> The problem arises because popup's "state" tiddler (
> $:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$) depends on the value of 
> $(currentTiddler)$.
>
> In the "original" tiddler, this value is the title of that tiddler.  
> However, when shown in a tab, the value is the title of the tiddler 
> containing the entire tab set, rather than the title of the tab content 
> tiddler itself.
>
> As explained in https://tiddlywiki.com/#tabs%20Macro:
> *The currentTiddler variable is not affected by the tabs macro. This can 
> put you in trouble if the list of tabs includes tiddlers that depend on the 
> value of the currentTiddler,*
>
> One way to account for this is to wrap your macro within a $tiddler 
> widget, like this:
> <$tiddler tiddler=<><>
>
> What this does:
> * when the content is shown in the "original" tiddler, the value of 
> <> is undefined, so the $tiddler widget has no effect
> * when the content is shown in a tab, the value of <> is 
> set to the same as the <>
>
> Note that, to make this usage a bit cleaner, you could re-write your code 
> as follows:
> \define HelpButton(label, ButtonText:?) <$tiddler 
> tiddler=<><>
> \define HelpButton_inner(label, ButtonText:?)
> ^^(<$button popup="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""" 
> class='tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink'>$ButtonText$)<$reveal 
> type='popup' state="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$"""> class='tc-drop-down' 
> style='width:1500px;max-width:75vw;white-space:pre-wrap;padding:10px;text-align:left;font-size:1.5em;border-radus:0.5em;'><$transclude
>  
> field="""$label$"""/>^^
> \end
>
> The first macro adds the $tiddler wrapper and then invokes the actual 
> HelpButton code (now renamed HelpButton_inner)
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: CleanTids

[Ste]

That's looking really good! 


On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 14:14:20 UTC David Gifford wrote:

> Oh boy! Something new to try. Shout out to Diego for the idea.
>
> 1. Go to https://giffmex.org/experiments/cleantids.html
> 2. Click 'Hide / reveal margins'
> 3. If you like it, and already have the other tiddlers, the only tiddler 
> you need is $:/.giffmex/Stylesheet/CleanTidsNoMargin 
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 7:56:11 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Additional notes:
>>
>> 1. Cleantids is in fact compatible with Stroll, but only if you use the 
>> default TiddlyWiki title setting for Stroll (gear tab). Also helps to use 
>> the 'hidden' option of the Stroll references view, to hide the . 
>>
>> 2. I am waiting on a fix in another thread to get this compatible with 
>> darker themes.
>>
>> 3. In Stroll, see what happens when you fold a tiddler, then hide the 
>> other elements...
>>
>> 4. Try this out with the seamless theme. While the space between tiddlers 
>> is too tall, it will still rock your world...
>>
>> 5. Possible next steps: 
>> a) Create a separate stylesheet where the space between the tiddlers is 
>> 0, and create toggle buttons to switch between the two. This would make 
>> seamless view look like an article!
>> b) Toggle available themes and available palettes. If someone wants to 
>> create this as a dropdown list for me, all the better. But I *might* be 
>> able to do this as buttons.
>>
>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 11:29:37 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> My experiment last night with primordial tiddlers led to this more final 
>>> product, CleanTids.
>>>
>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/cleantids.html
>>>
>>> Play and enjoy...
>>>
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[tw5] Help with the helpbutton macro..

[Ste]

Hello Good people,
Many moons ago I picked up the Helpbutton macro fromJed?...Mark?  
(sorry)

\define HelpButton(label, ButtonText:?)
^^(<$button popup="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""" 
class='tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink'>$ButtonText$)<$reveal 
type='popup' state="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$"""><$transclude
 
field="""$label$"""/>^^
\end

Usage:

<>

<>

Now, I have a tabs list:
<>

But the help button shows when in the tabbed list but[image: asefaf.PNG]
but works perfectly in the original tiddler.

Any insights?

Thank you.

Ste

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[tw5] Re: Announcing Tiddlyhost.com

[Ste]

@scot ahha! :) 

On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 13:35:08 UTC ooc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looks great, how does one upload an already existing TW. i just got really 
> tired of github’s saving unreliability. 
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:48:21 PM UTC-6 SimonBaird wrote:
>
>> (Via http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/2021/02/announcing-tiddlyhostcom.html 
>> )
>>
>> Tiddlyhost.com is the successor to Tiddlyspot.com. I've been working hard 
>> on it since early January and I'm really happy with the progress. It's 
>> pretty new, and still in development, but I feel like it's ready for some 
>> kind of launch.
>>
>> Unlike Tiddlyspot, Tiddlyhost:
>> * Is secure
>> * Has a password recovery mechanism
>> * Supports TiddlyWiki5
>> * Is fully open source
>> * Let's you share and discover TiddlyWiki sites
>>
>> If that sounds good, please sign up at https://tiddlyhost.com/ and give 
>> it a try.
>>
>> If you have suggestions or experience problems, please file an issue [1]. 
>> See also the code [2] and the FAQ [3].
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/issues
>> [2] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/
>> [3] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/wiki/FAQ
>>
>>
>> -Simon
>>
>> Ps, a few notes:
>> * As mentioned, Tiddlyhost is new and in development. I can't guarantee 
>> there won't be problems. It would be wise to download your site once in a 
>> while just in case something goes terribly wrong and your data gets lost.
>> * Please be nice. For example don't upload your entire photo collection, 
>> or generate a ton of spammy content.
>>
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>>
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Re: [tw5] Announcing Tiddlyhost.com

[Ste]

Hi scot 
Tiddlyspot no longer works due to action by Simon's hosting company a few 
months ago. You cna download your stuff but that's all. This is about the 
new shiny glorious successor to tiddlyspot called tiddly host. Try the link 
in the original posts. 
I set up an account.. Found my old tiddlyspot, downloaded it then imported 
it from the new tiddly host. 
Works without a hitch. 

Stephen 

On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 12:20:37 UTC scot wrote:

> Simon, thanks very much for providing this great tool.
>
> I'm sorry but I failed to create a TW on my site and save it successfully.
> Tried saving on Firefox and Chrome browser. Downloaded it, no saved 
> changes.
> It's been a while since I used Tiddlyspot Saver could be something simple 
> that I'm doing wrong.
> Can anyone offer any help please.
>
> Scot
>
> On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 12:11:00 UTC Pit.W. wrote:
>
>> whhooops, that was quick and easy.
>>
>> Great!
>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>>
>> Pit
>> Am 19.02.2021 um 00:48 schrieb Simon Baird:
>>
>> (Via http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/2021/02/announcing-tiddlyhostcom.html 
>> ) 
>>
>> Tiddlyhost.com is the successor to Tiddlyspot.com. I've been working hard 
>> on it since early January and I'm really happy with the progress. It's 
>> pretty new, and still in development, but I feel like it's ready for some 
>> kind of launch.
>>
>> Unlike Tiddlyspot, Tiddlyhost:
>> * Is secure
>> * Has a password recovery mechanism
>> * Supports TiddlyWiki5
>> * Is fully open source
>> * Let's you share and discover TiddlyWiki sites
>>
>> If that sounds good, please sign up at https://tiddlyhost.com/ and give 
>> it a try.
>>
>> If you have suggestions or experience problems, please file an issue [1]. 
>> See also the code [2] and the FAQ [3].
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/issues
>> [2] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/
>> [3] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/wiki/FAQ
>>
>>
>> -Simon
>>
>> Ps, a few notes:
>> * As mentioned, Tiddlyhost is new and in development. I can't guarantee 
>> there won't be problems. It would be wise to download your site once in a 
>> while just in case something goes terribly wrong and your data gets lost.
>> * Please be nice. For example don't upload your entire photo collection, 
>> or generate a ton of spammy content.
>>
>> -- 
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Re: [tw5] Announcing Tiddlyhost.com

[Ste]

Thank you for this Simon! 
I've put up my tinkering wiki formally of tiddlyspot. So not precious of it 
all breaks while your developing :)
Just say how much tiddlyspot was appreciated! 

Stephen

On Friday, 19 February 2021 at 06:03:02 UTC Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>  Thanks for tiddlyhost.com I am sure it will have many users. Small 
> suggestion
>
> 1. It is good to use namespace per user (very important in my opinion)
> 2. Worth to show the quota per user (One can understand how much disk 
> space he/she has used)
> 3. To encourage being a nice user you can dedicate 250 MB per user and ask 
> for some fee above that quota
> 4. To keep tiddlyhost live and use a better hosting (dreamhost seems slow) 
> you may add a premium subscription let interested users and fans to pay for 
> subscription. This can be a small help to pay hosting and maintenance costs
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:18 AM Simon Baird  wrote:
>
>> (Via http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/2021/02/announcing-tiddlyhostcom.html 
>> )
>>
>> Tiddlyhost.com is the successor to Tiddlyspot.com. I've been working hard 
>> on it since early January and I'm really happy with the progress. It's 
>> pretty new, and still in development, but I feel like it's ready for some 
>> kind of launch.
>>
>> Unlike Tiddlyspot, Tiddlyhost:
>> * Is secure
>> * Has a password recovery mechanism
>> * Supports TiddlyWiki5
>> * Is fully open source
>> * Let's you share and discover TiddlyWiki sites
>>
>> If that sounds good, please sign up at https://tiddlyhost.com/ and give 
>> it a try.
>>
>> If you have suggestions or experience problems, please file an issue [1]. 
>> See also the code [2] and the FAQ [3].
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/issues
>> [2] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/
>> [3] https://github.com/simonbaird/tiddlyhost/wiki/FAQ
>>
>>
>> -Simon
>>
>> Ps, a few notes:
>> * As mentioned, Tiddlyhost is new and in development. I can't guarantee 
>> there won't be problems. It would be wise to download your site once in a 
>> while just in case something goes terribly wrong and your data gets lost.
>> * Please be nice. For example don't upload your entire photo collection, 
>> or generate a ton of spammy content.
>>
>> -- 
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[tw5] Re: Looking for TODO rule in Tiddler that creates automagically a TODO item.

[Ste]

https://projectify.wiki/demo.html be useful? 

On Thursday, 18 February 2021 at 12:31:34 UTC rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi
>
> since a week i am rediscovering TW5, really fun but quite for me a steep 
> learning curve.
> But I am trying.
> I have a daily journal entry where i log everything i do in for work.
> What i would love is the following:
> When i put something like say *TODO* on a line, that that line will 
> automagically
> be added to my todo list.
>
> So i have this in my journal (or normal tiddler):
>
> --
> Walked on the beach
> Let the dog out
> *TODO* remember to buy dogfood
> Wrote documentation for project XYZ
> Called DaveSmith
> *TODO* buy birthday present for Dave
> -
>
> That (only) the 2 *TODO* lines would be added to my TODO Tiddler.
> That would be really nice.
> Is this somehow possible?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Pointers to tutorials on programming TW5 are welcome as well.
> I progress very slowly each day but hey, i am progressing ;-)
>
> Ray
>

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[tw5] Re: On Github why?

[Ste]

Welcome :)
What are you gitting trying to do when this happens? TW version? Browser? 
Os? Plugin related? 

On Friday, 12 February 2021 at 18:24:36 UTC ooc...@gmail.com wrote:

>

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[tw5] Re: Some TiddlyWiki programming fun: Acey Ducey

[Ste]

Very cool! 


On Thursday, 11 February 2021 at 21:32:21 UTC cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> I still have some fine-tuning to do, and might do some refactoring to 
> improve the code.
>
> Good enough, though, for playing with:  
>
> The Acey Ducey Card Game à la TiddlyWiki 
> 
>
> Cheers !
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki for Books (Newbie Questions)

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Animated svg's?
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On Tuesday, 9 February 2021 at 17:47:16 UTC Odin wrote:

> You can make a list of tiddlers that are supposed to be viewed in order. 
> Add this macro (or a variation of it) by Mohammed (
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Utility/#demo%2Fsimple-navigation). This adds 
> navigation to those tiddlers, so users can press 'previous' and 'next' 
> buttons to go back and forth in a linear manner. You can then ofcourse 
> style the buttons however you please.
> What makes this macro pretty handy is that it uses the order that is in 
> the tag-dropdown list. You can drag-and-drop tiddlers in that list to 
> change the order. So it is easy to rearrange and order your tiddlers, 
> without changing links you've made in the text.
>
> Op dinsdag 9 februari 2021 om 16:32:15 UTC+1 schreef 
> jbigos...@ncc.commnet.edu:
>
>> Thank you kindly Mat, PMario, and Mark S for all your comments. You have 
>> given me much to think about it. 
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>> In response to some of the clarifying questions, here are my 
>> justifications for pursuing TiddyWiki, and my current requirements:
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>>- I like the fact that TW is a one file that can be easily viewed, 
>>downloaded or make derivative works from. I can see, however, that may 
>>cause file bloat and when adding images. A 400 mb single file isn’t going 
>>to work when students will be likely using their underpowered smart 
>> phones 
>>to read the text and images. Maybe I can host image in a folder and link 
>> to 
>>it from TW, but that would break the derivative part unless there is a 
>>plugin to automagically create PDFs, downloadable EPUB, etc ( like there 
>> is 
>>download option for Wikipedia\Wikimedia). I just don’t want to constantly 
>>maintain and update a separate file for that purpose. An acceptable 
>>compromise might by a chapter by chapter download versus the whole thing. 
>>Or maybe I shouldn’t care and just leave it to the end-user to figure it 
>>out. Seems very rude though IMHO. This isn’t a critical feature for me, 
>> but 
>>it is part of the OER ethos. 
>>
>>- To me, a linear process is going from Step 1, Step 2, and likewise, 
>>reading from Chapter 1 to Chapter 2, and so on. You are correct that 
>> books, 
>>per se, are not very linear in their creation, but I was alluding to the 
>>process in which they are read or understood. I don’t want to confuse 
>>students by making it too easy to skip around and miss critical concepts 
>> by 
>>not going in a specific order, which can happen with “Research Wormholes” 
>>on Wikipedia where all you wanted to find out was about Topic A but then 
>>you get off-track by reading Topic B,C,D,E, etc. 
>>
>>- I’m drawn to FLIF as a modern alternative to animated GIFs., which 
>>depending on size and resolution can result in massive file sizes. I do 
>> not 
>>think that JPEG XL can serve animated content, if only be going by the 
>> lack 
>>of doing so for JPEG and JPEG2000. Considering device issues and internet 
>>connection speeds, GIFs really aren’t going to cut it. I could fall back 
>> on 
>>APNGs, but that format doesn’t have much browser support either but it 
>> may 
>>end up being the necessary compromise if I can’t get FLIF to work 
>>correctly. The only player left in this small format field (AFAIK) is 
>>Google’s WebP format, but cursory research reveals double the file size 
>> of 
>>an equivalent animated GIF. 
>>http://littlesvr.ca/apng/gif_apng_webp3.html You might point out to 
>>just use videos, but people read faster than listening to the spoken word 
>>or watching a video. I want to be able to serve short animations of 5-30 
>>seconds of content at a time, as necessary, fronted and backed by the 
>>appropriate text explanation. I’m not a back-end developer so by 
>> suggesting 
>>to figure out a widget to make FLIF work with TW is probably the answer – 
>>not going to happen. =)
>>
>>- I just saw the post about a TiddlyWiki Textbook. That’s really cool 
>>and will try attempt to contribute only to see if that’s going to work 
>> for 
>>my needs. In the meantime, I guess it’s time for some rigorous testing. 
>>Aside from TiddlyWiki, I’ve been looking at DocuWiki and Wiki.js. I might 
>>have an open source webhost lined up too (where server space and 
>> bandwidth 
>>is limited – necessitating image compression algorithms), we’ll see.
>>
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>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jeremi
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>> *From:* tiddl...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> Of *PMario
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2021 1:12 PM
>> *To:* TiddlyWiki 
>> *Subject:* [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki for Books (Newbie Questions)
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>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 3:41:48 PM UTC+1 jbigos...@ncc.commnet.edu 
>> wrote:
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>> 3) How well does TW play with Javascript? I want to implement