[tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

[passingby]

+1. Another idea would be to add an autosave feature, eg save after every 
chosen number of minutes..


On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:30:26 AM UTC+5:30, Jimmy Bostoen wrote:
>
> Not sure if this group already discussed something like this or similar
>
> Most of the time I just use the new TW5 on my work, for reading and adding 
> some notes, and I make use of the tiddlyspot save feature.
>
> The issue I sometimes face is not knowing if I saved the changes made in 
> the wiki (due file being open for an hour or so) or if I even made changes 
> to it.
> Also when saving to tiddlyspot, the proxy acts up, nullifying my attempt 
> at saving so I get the notification 'saving wiki', but not the 'saved wiki' 
> toast
>
> Is there a way to know your file was last saved?
> like a message 'last saved at HH:MM:SS on -MM-DD'
> or I a way to keep the notification 'wiki saved' on screen until I 
> manually dismiss it?
> or even just a note that says: 'wiki edited since last save'
>
> Just so I have a reminder to hit that save button...
>
> At the moment I just use the browsers console log to see if the POST was a 
> succes and if not, I retry.
>
>

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[tw] [TW5] text with " and ' in Text widget

[Julie]

I really appreciate the new Text widget, which answers to a need of 
non-wikified text both part of a tiddler (not an entire tiddler) and 
without code formatting.

However, why is the text in a attribute, instead of in the content of the 
widget? Such a choice prevents from using " and ' in the same text, as one 
of them is used for delimiting the attribute.

Is there a solution to bypass this, without using html encoding? (I don't 
know if a web developper knows them by heart, but I'm pretty sure it's not 
the case of the majority of users, including me)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] text with " and ' in Text widget

[Stephan Hradek]

Sure I know them by heart:
 " = "
 = '

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[tw] [TW5] How to disable CamelCase ?

[vpl]

Hi,

I would like to disable the tiddler recognition based on CamelCase.
Is their a config parameter somewhere ?

Thanks a lot
Regards
Vpl

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to disable CamelCase ?

[Stephan Hradek]

Please search in the group. Someone already brought this up some time ago 
and there were some proposals for this.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to disable CamelCase ?

[UBi]

In short:

   - open [[$:/core/modules/parsers/wikiparser/rules/wikilink.js]]
   - delete Tiddler content
   - remove field "module-type"
   - save tiddler
   - save TW & reload

This disables all internal links except those enclosed in double square 
brackets.

Since [[$:/core/modules/parsers/wikiparser/rules/wikilink.js]] is a shadow 
tiddler, you can restore the original behaviour by simply deleting it.

Uwe

Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2014 14:20:42 UTC+1 schrieb vpl:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to disable the tiddler recognition based on CamelCase.
> Is their a config parameter somewhere ?
>
> Thanks a lot
> Regards
> Vpl
>

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[tw] What happened to TiddlyDocs?

[xx . mkkl]

Hi all,

Currently I am using TWc and recently I stumbled upon information about a 
Multi-User TiddlyWiki called "TiddlyDocs". The referral to the downloadpage 
www.tiddlydocs.com is offline. Was this a project for commercial purposes 
with TiddlyWiki framework? Was this a project from Jeremy Ruston or was it 
a spinoff by other users? Is the project still alive?
Also, I can't seem to find any proper documentation about this project 
except some bloggers highlighting some of the possibilities.

Kind regards,
Mike

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[tw] Re: TW5 - Simple one button method for toggling viewing content and hiding it?

[Matabele]

Hi

I've been playing around with TW5 for a couple of days - I've posted my 
efforts here: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/

There are a few ways I've been experimenting with for displaying tiddlers 
as sliders. Perhaps have a look at 'WikiText Help' - available from the 
drop down help menu (? on the RHS of the page controls.) There are a couple 
of other techniques shown on the left sidebar.

Hope this helps

regards 

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:32:20 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi 
>
> I would like to create a simple button to toggle revealing and hiding some 
> text. 
>
> I will be putting this in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate so that it 
> is visible on all tiddlers. But I don't want the two button approach that 
> is in the documentation for the reveal widget. I would like one button that 
> opens and closes it. 
>
> The buttons for TiddlerInfo and Edit preview are too hard for me to figure 
> out how to adapt for my use. I know there is something simple. But for some 
> reason I just can't find it.
>
> Can someone post something here?
>
> Dave
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Simple one button method for toggling viewing content and hiding it?

[David Gifford]

Nice work, Matabele!


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Matabele  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've been playing around with TW5 for a couple of days - I've posted my
> efforts here: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There are a few ways I've been experimenting with for displaying tiddlers
> as sliders. Perhaps have a look at 'WikiText Help' - available from the
> drop down help menu (? on the RHS of the page controls.) There are a couple
> of other techniques shown on the left sidebar.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> regards
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:32:20 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I would like to create a simple button to toggle revealing and hiding
>> some text.
>>
>> I will be putting this in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate so that
>> it is visible on all tiddlers. But I don't want the two button approach
>> that is in the documentation for the reveal widget. I would like one button
>> that opens and closes it.
>>
>> The buttons for TiddlerInfo and Edit preview are too hard for me to
>> figure out how to adapt for my use. I know there is something simple. But
>> for some reason I just can't find it.
>>
>> Can someone post something here?
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

[Jimmy Bostoen]

>
> just noticed there is a detail of this in the roadmap, Must have 
>> overlooked it when scanning the forums
>
>

   - Features affecting user data integrity
 - Warning when attempting to close window without saving
  
So it's coming...

does anyone in the meantime have a hacky way of bringing something like 
this now?

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Simple one button method for toggling viewing content and hiding it?

[Matabele]

Hi

Pleasure. I've used your 'Notes' (TWC) for some time - hope this helps 
develop a new 'Notes5' :-)

regards

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:30:00 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Nice work, Matabele!
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Matabele 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've been playing around with TW5 for a couple of days - I've posted my 
>> efforts here: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There are a few ways I've been experimenting with for displaying tiddlers 
>> as sliders. Perhaps have a look at 'WikiText Help' - available from the 
>> drop down help menu (? on the RHS of the page controls.) There are a couple 
>> of other techniques shown on the left sidebar.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> regards 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:32:20 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi 
>>>
>>> I would like to create a simple button to toggle revealing and hiding 
>>> some text. 
>>>
>>> I will be putting this in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate so that 
>>> it is visible on all tiddlers. But I don't want the two button approach 
>>> that is in the documentation for the reveal widget. I would like one button 
>>> that opens and closes it. 
>>>
>>> The buttons for TiddlerInfo and Edit preview are too hard for me to 
>>> figure out how to adapt for my use. I know there is something simple. But 
>>> for some reason I just can't find it.
>>>
>>> Can someone post something here?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Simple one button method for toggling viewing content and hiding it?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I would love to check your wiki. Unfortunately I have to wait until I arrive 
work since your theme is impossible to see in a mobile device. 

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[tw] (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems using 
fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i add or 
delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously something is 
overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect unless i restart 
the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?

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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Leo Staley]

One thing I also try is to see if a single specific change I'm making will 
also work in a barebones empty.html tiddlywiki. 

For EditTemplate, you don't have to refresh the page, but usually for 
ViewTemplate, you do have to refresh the page after saving the change. 

Are you using a customized PageTemplate or StyleSheet? 

Could you offer some examples? 

Cheers!
-Leo
 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:25:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems using 
> fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i add or 
> delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously something is 
> overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect unless i restart 
> the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?
>

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[tw] Re: What happened to TiddlyDocs?

[Leo Staley]

It wasn't by Jeremy, but by others close to the core of Tiddlywiki. I don't 
think it's still being worked on, but 
try http://tiddlydocs.tiddlyspace.com/ 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:35:21 AM UTC-7, xx@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Currently I am using TWc and recently I stumbled upon information about a 
> Multi-User TiddlyWiki called "TiddlyDocs". The referral to the downloadpage 
> www.tiddlydocs.com is offline. Was this a project for commercial purposes 
> with TiddlyWiki framework? Was this a project from Jeremy Ruston or was it 
> a spinoff by other users? Is the project still alive?
> Also, I can't seem to find any proper documentation about this project 
> except some bloggers highlighting some of the possibilities.
>
> Kind regards,
> Mike
>

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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

i started my tiddlywiki over a year ago, and stopped using it until 
recently. but there is a lot of info there. i can only say i imported a 
style but i don't remember how, or whose, or where it is. i think this 
raises a lot of unknows when one tries new modifications that don't play 
well with an unknown background of plugins. is there a way to list these or 
see them from a url?

basically i wanted to add a start date and end date field to a resume that 
includes a lot of job tiddlers. i added various versions of examples i 
found here and on the regular tw sites. in the edit screen, no field 
appeared. i thought it was caused by EditFieldPlugin, so i stopped using 
it. then i just tried something basic - to change the order of the text 
field and the tag field. nothing changed. then i deleted last modified 
date. nothing. then i deleted modified by and comments number... then it 
hit me, my wiki is not even looking at edit template or view template. i 
don't know where to look.

my wiki is at http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:14:07 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> One thing I also try is to see if a single specific change I'm making will 
> also work in a barebones empty.html tiddlywiki. 
>
> For EditTemplate, you don't have to refresh the page, but usually for 
> ViewTemplate, you do have to refresh the page after saving the change. 
>
> Are you using a customized PageTemplate or StyleSheet? 
>
> Could you offer some examples? 
>
> Cheers!
> -Leo
>  
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:25:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>>
>> Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems using 
>> fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i add or 
>> delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously something is 
>> overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect unless i restart 
>> the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

[Joe Shirk]

I am interested in the opposite. on my wiki, the saved wiki toast stays on 
top of the edit-close-additional toolbar until i dismiss it. i would rather 
it just go away after a few seconds but i have to dismiss it before i can 
access the toolbar. but this might be a problem caused by whatever style 
plugin i am using.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:00:26 PM UTC-3, Jimmy Bostoen wrote:
>
> Not sure if this group already discussed something like this or similar
>
> Most of the time I just use the new TW5 on my work, for reading and adding 
> some notes, and I make use of the tiddlyspot save feature.
>
> The issue I sometimes face is not knowing if I saved the changes made in 
> the wiki (due file being open for an hour or so) or if I even made changes 
> to it.
> Also when saving to tiddlyspot, the proxy acts up, nullifying my attempt 
> at saving so I get the notification 'saving wiki', but not the 'saved wiki' 
> toast
>
> Is there a way to know your file was last saved?
> like a message 'last saved at HH:MM:SS on -MM-DD'
> or I a way to keep the notification 'wiki saved' on screen until I 
> manually dismiss it?
> or even just a note that says: 'wiki edited since last save'
>
> Just so I have a reminder to hit that save button...
>
> At the moment I just use the browsers console log to see if the POST was a 
> succes and if not, I retry.
>
>

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[tw] what does 'dateline' refer to?

[Joe Shirk]

i am reading threads about dates and listing by date in general and came 
across the term dateline, but i am not finding anything about it in the 
help. is is a synonym for timeline? is there a good glossary somewhere?

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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Leo Staley]

You are using the Simplicity theme. This has templates which over-ride 
whatever is listed in the shadows. unfortunately it's not listed in the All 
tiddlers area, because all of the associated tiddlers are tagged 
excludeLists and excludeSearch. Fortunately, if you check under your tags, 
you can go see any of the tiddlers tagged excludeLists or excludeSearch.

That's where you'll find the tiddlers which are over-riding the regular 
shadow tiddlers. This should point you in the right direction. 

Cheers!
-Leo

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:53:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> i started my tiddlywiki over a year ago, and stopped using it until 
> recently. but there is a lot of info there. i can only say i imported a 
> style but i don't remember how, or whose, or where it is. i think this 
> raises a lot of unknows when one tries new modifications that don't play 
> well with an unknown background of plugins. is there a way to list these or 
> see them from a url?
>
> basically i wanted to add a start date and end date field to a resume that 
> includes a lot of job tiddlers. i added various versions of examples i 
> found here and on the regular tw sites. in the edit screen, no field 
> appeared. i thought it was caused by EditFieldPlugin, so i stopped using 
> it. then i just tried something basic - to change the order of the text 
> field and the tag field. nothing changed. then i deleted last modified 
> date. nothing. then i deleted modified by and comments number... then it 
> hit me, my wiki is not even looking at edit template or view template. i 
> don't know where to look.
>
> my wiki is at http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:14:07 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>>
>> One thing I also try is to see if a single specific change I'm making 
>> will also work in a barebones empty.html tiddlywiki. 
>>
>> For EditTemplate, you don't have to refresh the page, but usually for 
>> ViewTemplate, you do have to refresh the page after saving the change. 
>>
>> Are you using a customized PageTemplate or StyleSheet? 
>>
>> Could you offer some examples? 
>>
>> Cheers!
>> -Leo
>>  
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:25:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>>>
>>> Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems using 
>>> fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i add or 
>>> delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously something is 
>>> overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect unless i restart 
>>> the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: what does 'dateline' refer to?

[Leo Staley]

I assume you're referencing this 
thread
?

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:46:28 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> i am reading threads about dates and listing by date in general and came 
> across the term dateline, but i am not finding anything about it in the 
> help. is is a synonym for timeline? is there a good glossary somewhere?
>

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[tw] Re: what does 'dateline' refer to?

[Joe Shirk]

indeed

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:46:28 PM UTC-3, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> i am reading threads about dates and listing by date in general and came 
> across the term dateline, but i am not finding anything about it in the 
> help. is is a synonym for timeline? is there a good glossary somewhere?
>

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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

thank you Leo! it seems that this theme introduces too many unknowns for a 
beginner wanting to customize a few standard concepts. i don't see a way to 
disable it, so i think i will save myself some headaches and delete it.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:11:03 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> You are using the Simplicity theme. This has templates which over-ride 
> whatever is listed in the shadows. unfortunately it's not listed in the All 
> tiddlers area, because all of the associated tiddlers are tagged 
> excludeLists and excludeSearch. Fortunately, if you check under your tags, 
> you can go see any of the tiddlers tagged excludeLists or excludeSearch.
>
> That's where you'll find the tiddlers which are over-riding the regular 
> shadow tiddlers. This should point you in the right direction. 
>
> Cheers!
> -Leo
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:53:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>>
>> i started my tiddlywiki over a year ago, and stopped using it until 
>> recently. but there is a lot of info there. i can only say i imported a 
>> style but i don't remember how, or whose, or where it is. i think this 
>> raises a lot of unknows when one tries new modifications that don't play 
>> well with an unknown background of plugins. is there a way to list these or 
>> see them from a url?
>>
>> basically i wanted to add a start date and end date field to a resume 
>> that includes a lot of job tiddlers. i added various versions of examples i 
>> found here and on the regular tw sites. in the edit screen, no field 
>> appeared. i thought it was caused by EditFieldPlugin, so i stopped using 
>> it. then i just tried something basic - to change the order of the text 
>> field and the tag field. nothing changed. then i deleted last modified 
>> date. nothing. then i deleted modified by and comments number... then it 
>> hit me, my wiki is not even looking at edit template or view template. i 
>> don't know where to look.
>>
>> my wiki is at http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:14:07 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing I also try is to see if a single specific change I'm making 
>>> will also work in a barebones empty.html tiddlywiki. 
>>>
>>> For EditTemplate, you don't have to refresh the page, but usually for 
>>> ViewTemplate, you do have to refresh the page after saving the change. 
>>>
>>> Are you using a customized PageTemplate or StyleSheet? 
>>>
>>> Could you offer some examples? 
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> -Leo
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:25:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:

 Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems 
 using fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i 
 add or delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously 
 something is overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect 
 unless 
 i restart the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?

>>>

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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

I deleted SimplicityAddon and nothing changed. how to I reset the theme or 
get rid of whatever it changed when i installed it?

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:25:34 PM UTC-3, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems using 
> fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i add or 
> delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously something is 
> overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect unless i restart 
> the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?
>

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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Leo Staley]

I know what you mean. I classify myself as a beginner too, but Tiddlywiki 
is just too interesting for me to stay that way for much longer. Have a 
look at my Tiddlyspace. 
The
 
specific page I linked there actually has a chart with my beginner 
explanation I made for myself about a couple of plugins and features. I'm 
gonna be making more beginner explanations as I keep working through it. 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:37:31 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> thank you Leo! it seems that this theme introduces too many unknowns for a 
> beginner wanting to customize a few standard concepts. i don't see a way to 
> disable it, so i think i will save myself some headaches and delete it.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:11:03 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>>
>> You are using the Simplicity theme. This has templates which over-ride 
>> whatever is listed in the shadows. unfortunately it's not listed in the All 
>> tiddlers area, because all of the associated tiddlers are tagged 
>> excludeLists and excludeSearch. Fortunately, if you check under your tags, 
>> you can go see any of the tiddlers tagged excludeLists or excludeSearch.
>>
>> That's where you'll find the tiddlers which are over-riding the regular 
>> shadow tiddlers. This should point you in the right direction. 
>>
>> Cheers!
>> -Leo
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:53:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>>>
>>> i started my tiddlywiki over a year ago, and stopped using it until 
>>> recently. but there is a lot of info there. i can only say i imported a 
>>> style but i don't remember how, or whose, or where it is. i think this 
>>> raises a lot of unknows when one tries new modifications that don't play 
>>> well with an unknown background of plugins. is there a way to list these or 
>>> see them from a url?
>>>
>>> basically i wanted to add a start date and end date field to a resume 
>>> that includes a lot of job tiddlers. i added various versions of examples i 
>>> found here and on the regular tw sites. in the edit screen, no field 
>>> appeared. i thought it was caused by EditFieldPlugin, so i stopped using 
>>> it. then i just tried something basic - to change the order of the text 
>>> field and the tag field. nothing changed. then i deleted last modified 
>>> date. nothing. then i deleted modified by and comments number... then it 
>>> hit me, my wiki is not even looking at edit template or view template. i 
>>> don't know where to look.
>>>
>>> my wiki is at http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:14:07 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:

 One thing I also try is to see if a single specific change I'm making 
 will also work in a barebones empty.html tiddlywiki. 

 For EditTemplate, you don't have to refresh the page, but usually for 
 ViewTemplate, you do have to refresh the page after saving the change. 

 Are you using a customized PageTemplate or StyleSheet? 

 Could you offer some examples? 

 Cheers!
 -Leo
  

 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:25:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems 
> using fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what 
> i 
> add or delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously 
> something is overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect 
> unless 
> i restart the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?
>


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[tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

actually, it reappears after i delete it! 

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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Leo Staley]

I think you probably originally applied the template by including the
simplicity theme tiddlyspace.  To uninclude a space on tiddlyspace, click
on the tiddlyspace icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen, click
on "This Space", and then open the Included Spaces area. From there, you
can easily uninclude or include whatever other spaces you'd like.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Joe Shirk  wrote:

> actually, it reappears after i delete it!
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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[PMario]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:56:18 PM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> I think you probably originally applied the template by including the 
> simplicity theme tiddlyspace.  To uninclude a space on tiddlyspace, click 
> on the tiddlyspace icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen, click 
> on "This Space", and then open the Included Spaces area. From there, you 
> can easily uninclude or include whatever other spaces you'd like. 
>

That's right.

You shouldn't have included the simplicity space at all. It is not designed 
to be included. The 4th intro page, the first paragraph has a link that 
tells you how to include the theme into an existing space.  (I know 
nobody reads the dosc)

Anyway: As you included the simplicity space you also got

   - system-goto
   - simplicity-template
   - space-install
   - simplicity

So I think you could also remove the above spaces. 

 but doing so will not help you with your problem, that changing the 
Edit- or ViewTemplate won't change your layout. ... because you use the 
"headless" theme. Themes "overrule" the default templates. 

You will have to change stuff in the 
http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/#HeadlessTheme tiddler. ... ___ but  be 
aware, it may make your UI unusable if you mess it up. So first download 
your TW and test your changes. Then apply them to your "production" theme.

have fun!
mario
PS: I'm the author of the simpliciy space. 

[1] http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BPage%20(999)%5D%5D

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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Leo Staley]

On a much related note, Mario is also the creator of the Freestyle template
generator  on Tiddlyspace. You can use
it to create your own customized layout. He has made it as easy to
understand as possible, but it still takes a couple of hours of tinkering
to grasp how it works and how to make it do what you want. It's the one I
used on my page. I actually think I did a few things wrong, but it's not
broken, So I'm just going to let it be for now, :)


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:10 PM, PMario  wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:56:18 PM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote:
>>
>> I think you probably originally applied the template by including the
>> simplicity theme tiddlyspace.  To uninclude a space on tiddlyspace, click
>> on the tiddlyspace icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen, click
>> on "This Space", and then open the Included Spaces area. From there, you
>> can easily uninclude or include whatever other spaces you'd like.
>>
>
> That's right.
>
> You shouldn't have included the simplicity space at all. It is not
> designed to be included. The 4th intro page, the first paragraph has a link
> that tells you how to include the theme into an existing space.  (I
> know nobody reads the dosc)
>
> Anyway: As you included the simplicity space you also got
>
>- system-goto
>- simplicity-template
>- space-install
>- simplicity
>
> So I think you could also remove the above spaces.
>
>  but doing so will not help you with your problem, that changing the
> Edit- or ViewTemplate won't change your layout. ... because you use the
> "headless" theme. Themes "overrule" the default templates.
>
> You will have to change stuff in the
> http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/#HeadlessTheme tiddler. ... ___ but 
> be aware, it may make your UI unusable if you mess it up. So first download
> your TW and test your changes. Then apply them to your "production" theme.
>
> have fun!
> mario
> PS: I'm the author of the simpliciy space.
>
> [1] http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BPage%20(999)%5D%5D
>
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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[PMario]

I forgot to link to the info tiddler.  - 
http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#HowIncludeThisSpace

I also did 3 short videos how to deal with TS and themes. If you have some 
time ~16min for 3 of them :) - http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#video

have fun!
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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

You were right - i found it there and un-included it. yet, after reloading 
the page, nothing changed. this isn't worth the brain damage; i am just 
going to create a fresh site and import the tiddlers i have added since 
that theme became entrenched.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:56:18 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> I think you probably originally applied the template by including the 
> simplicity theme tiddlyspace.  To uninclude a space on tiddlyspace, click 
> on the tiddlyspace icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen, click 
> on "This Space", and then open the Included Spaces area. From there, you 
> can easily uninclude or include whatever other spaces you'd like. 
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Joe Shirk 
> > wrote:
>
>> actually, it reappears after i delete it! 
>>
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[tw] Re: What happened to TiddlyDocs?

[Mat]

TiddlyDocs is in deed a really cool thing.

Here  are 
some clips on TiddlyDocs from the originators, Simon McManus and Michael 
Mahemoff.
The latest related go is 
VanillaTiddlyDocs, 
i.e an attempt to make TiddlyDocs in a regular (classic) TW.

Hope this is of any help.

<:-)

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:35:21 PM UTC+1, xx@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Currently I am using TWc and recently I stumbled upon information about a 
> Multi-User TiddlyWiki called "TiddlyDocs". The referral to the downloadpage 
> www.tiddlydocs.com is offline. Was this a project for commercial purposes 
> with TiddlyWiki framework? Was this a project from Jeremy Ruston or was it 
> a spinoff by other users? Is the project still alive?
> Also, I can't seem to find any proper documentation about this project 
> except some bloggers highlighting some of the possibilities.
>
> Kind regards,
> Mike
>

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[tw] [TWC] Using Parameters with the tiddler macro doesn't work at all.

[Leo Staley]

So I just sat down to learn myself all about transclusion, the tiddler 
macro, and list macro. 

Unfortunately, the information at http://tiddlywiki.org/#tiddler is not 
helpful.  

I follow its instructions exactly and nothing happens. It wasn't very 
explicit in much of its instructions either, which made actually doing that 
pretty hard. :(

1) I created a tiddler titled MyTemplates. The content, of this tiddler is 
!What I like
I like //$1// in [[$2|https://www.google.com/search?q=$2]]!


(It should have been more explicit on what exactly the content of the 
tiddler should have been. There really should be a more explicit example 
with actual tiddlers)

2) In another Tiddler, I pasted, 

<> 


3) There isn't a step 3. After I did that and saved them both, the tiddler 
macro gave me an output of nothing. 

What gives? 





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[tw] Re: [TWC] Using Parameters with the tiddler macro doesn't work at all.

[Leo Staley]

I figured it out. The documentation is wrong. The content inside the 
brackets should be MyTemplates##What I like, NOT MyTemplates::What I like.  

I have now updated and corrected this on that documentation page. 

 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:03:51 PM UTC-7, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> So I just sat down to learn myself all about transclusion, the tiddler 
> macro, and list macro. 
>
> Unfortunately, the information at http://tiddlywiki.org/#tiddler is not 
> helpful.  
>
> I follow its instructions exactly and nothing happens. It wasn't very 
> explicit in much of its instructions either, which made actually doing that 
> pretty hard. :(
>
> 1) I created a tiddler titled MyTemplates. The content, of this tiddler is 
> !What I like
> I like //$1// in [[$2|https://www.google.com/search?q=$2]]!
>
>
> (It should have been more explicit on what exactly the content of the 
> tiddler should have been. There really should be a more explicit example 
> with actual tiddlers)
>
> 2) In another Tiddler, I pasted, 
>
> <> 
>
>
> 3) There isn't a step 3. After I did that and saved them both, the tiddler 
> macro gave me an output of nothing. 
>
> What gives? 
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

Thanks Mario, I have started watching but my network connection says i have 
to wait... grrr

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:23:48 PM UTC-3, PMario wrote:
>
> I forgot to link to the info tiddler.  - 
> http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#HowIncludeThisSpace
>
> I also did 3 short videos how to deal with TS and themes. If you have some 
> time ~16min for 3 of them :) - http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#video
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

since i have copied all my tiddlers to a new space all these problems are 
eliminated. i did doublecheck for the includes you mentioned and it seems 
all clear. but now i am finding that all my tiddlers are read-only - i am 
logged in, but it only lets me view, not edit. stumped again...

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:10:56 PM UTC-3, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:56:18 PM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote:
>>
>> I think you probably originally applied the template by including the 
>> simplicity theme tiddlyspace.  To uninclude a space on tiddlyspace, click 
>> on the tiddlyspace icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen, click 
>> on "This Space", and then open the Included Spaces area. From there, you 
>> can easily uninclude or include whatever other spaces you'd like. 
>>
>
> That's right.
>
> You shouldn't have included the simplicity space at all. It is not 
> designed to be included. The 4th intro page, the first paragraph has a link 
> that tells you how to include the theme into an existing space.  (I 
> know nobody reads the dosc)
>
> Anyway: As you included the simplicity space you also got
>
>- system-goto
>- simplicity-template
>- space-install
>- simplicity
>
> So I think you could also remove the above spaces. 
>
>  but doing so will not help you with your problem, that changing the 
> Edit- or ViewTemplate won't change your layout. ... because you use the 
> "headless" theme. Themes "overrule" the default templates. 
>
> You will have to change stuff in the 
> http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/#HeadlessTheme tiddler. ... ___ but  
> be aware, it may make your UI unusable if you mess it up. So first download 
> your TW and test your changes. Then apply them to your "production" theme.
>
> have fun!
> mario
> PS: I'm the author of the simpliciy space. 
>
> [1] http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BPage%20(999)%5D%5D
>

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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Change to View Template and Edit Template have no effect

[Joe Shirk]

reloading the app solved this.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:16:17 PM UTC-3, Joe Shirk wrote:
>
> but now i am finding that all my tiddlers are read-only - i am logged in, 
> but it only lets me view, not edit. stumped again...
>
>
>

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[tw] [TWC] Filtering plugins, which ones to use? Please help.

[Leo Staley]

Today I sat down to learn all about how to do transclusion and filtering. 
It's quite a bit harder than expected. This post is mostly just about 
Filtering plugins.  

These are the ones I'm taking a serious look at:

Of course, the basic list macro with the filter parameter, 
http://tiddlywiki.org/#Filters
Filtr 
ListFiltr 
TagFiltr 
GetPlugin  
The filters at http://filters.tiddlyspace.com/ (Jon Robson's 
ExtraFiltersPlugin, NumberSortFilterPlugin and StoryFiltersPlugin) Yes, I 
am using a tiddlyspace.
Yakov Litvin's ExtraFiltersPlugin 

EmbedTiddlers  + 
MatchTagsPlugin
ForEachTiddler,  (I 
know that this doesn't have full compatibility with tiddlyspace, but I plan 
on using my tiddlywiki mostly offline anyway so that shouldn't be a problem)
 
I can't tell which would be the best for me. I don't know which plugins and 
their macros are redundant, incompatible, or synergistic, with one another, 
or deprecated by other updates or plugins, or just plain better or worse 
than others. Or even the difference between some of them.

I'm having a really hard time sifting through all the documentation and 
successfully comparing them. If someone who has a bit more experience could 
help explain the differences between these plugins, I would be 
overwhelmingly grateful. 

Cheers!
-Leo

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[tw] TW5 Text Widget documentation.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello,

I tried to make an edit in github but I didn't find the appropriate 
document.
Regarding the Documentation of the text widget: it took a long time to 
figure how the widget works. It is a pretty simple widget, but the fact 
that the name of the widget is the same than the only parameter confused 
me. I read and read the documentation thinking "how can I figure what 
parameters does this thing accept?". I didn't know also is this is an self 
closing widget (<$text />)

With a single example this will be 100% clear

<$text text="Text to display"> 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Simple one button method for toggling viewing content and hiding it?

[Matabele]

Hi

Sorry - I have been developing my wiki on a laptop with Firefox, along the 
lines of the vanilla TW5. I haven't tested (and don't intend to test) on 
other devices, or even on operating systems other than Linux. It seems to 
work with Chrome, but has some issues with Opera (the styles need tweaking 
and Fontawesome doesn't function.)

Some of the techniques might work though.

regards

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:51:19 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> I would love to check your wiki. Unfortunately I have to wait until I 
> arrive work since your theme is impossible to see in a mobile device. 

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[tw] How can I create an 'Edit' button for transluded tiddlers?

[Matabele]

I am working on a simple Menu which transcludes a series of sections of a 
main topic (like a slideshow):

\define sliderList(section)
<$button popup="$:/state/$section$" class="btn-invisible tw-slider">
|! $section$  |

<$reveal type="nomatch" text="" default="" state="$:/state/$section$" 
animate="yes">
<$transclude tiddler="$section$" />


\end

<>
<>
...

I now wish to add an edit button which selects the currently transcluded 
section for editing

\define editLink()
<$button message="tw-edit-tiddler" class="btn-invisible">
Edit Button
<$reveal type="nomatch" text="" default="" animate="yes">
...
(What do I place here?)
...



(and somewhere in one or more of the transcluded tiddlers, the macrocall)
...
<> 

The button always opens the Menu itself for editing rather than the 
currently transcluded section. Messing with the code for the sliderList 
macro (storing $section$ elsewhere) seems to mess with the formatting. 
Surely the system must have a marker somewhere reflecting the currently 
transcluded section, which I can hook into?

Any ideas on this? 

-
An example of the menu (without edit function) can be seen here: 
http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/ - #WikiText Help



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[tw] Re: [TWC] Using Parameters with the tiddler macro doesn't work at all.

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:13:30 PM UTC-8, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> I figured it out. The documentation is wrong. The content inside the 
> brackets should be MyTemplates##What I like, NOT MyTemplates::What I like.  
> I have now updated and corrected this on that documentation page. 
>

Thank you for taking care of that!

Please note that, while the example was in error, the basic syntax 
documentation that precedes it was correct:
-
<>
The TextReference can be any of...
a tiddler title <>
a tiddler section <>
a tiddler slice <>
-

In your particular case, you defined a section using the "!sometext" 
syntax... but then, in the reference, you used the doubled-colon *slice* 
separator instead of the doubled-hash *section* seperator.

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Filtering plugins, which ones to use? Please help.

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:45:33 PM UTC-8, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> Today I sat down to learn all about how to do transclusion and filtering. 
> It's quite a bit harder than expected. This post is mostly just about 
> Filtering plugins.  
> ...
>
EmbedTiddlers  + 
MatchTagsPlugin
>
... 

> ...which plugins ... are ... synergistic, with one another
>

MatchTagsPlugin is one of the "synergistic" type plugins.  It extends the 
TWCore [tag[tagvalue]] syntax, so that you can use Boolean expressions 
(and/or/not, plus parens) to create filters based on combinations of tag 
values, e.g., [tag[this OR that AND NOT (something AND somethingelse)]]. 
 This enhancement to the TWCore syntax can be used in *any* macro that uses 
tag filters, whether or not that macro is built-in or plugin-defined. 
 MatchTagsPlugin also defines it's own <> macro that provides 
some extra ways to create tag-filtered output.

enjoy,
-e

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Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Using Parameters with the tiddler macro doesn't work at all.

[Leo Staley]

Yup. My pleasure! I copied and pasted exactly what was in the example too.
 My edit also made it clearer on what exactly needed to be in the content
of the "MyTemplates" example tiddler in order for it to have a section.
Previously it just said "section containing", which, if you haven't already
gone over sections and slices in depth, you might not understand.

But I do want to remark that the examples for the Text Reference are a bit
confusing too. I was under the false impression for a while that to call a
Tiddler section, you had to use the double brackets, and to call a slice,
you had to use quotation marks.

Cheers!
-Leo


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:13:30 PM UTC-8, Leo Staley wrote:
>>
>> I figured it out. The documentation is wrong. The content inside the
>> brackets should be MyTemplates##What I like, NOT MyTemplates::What I like.
>> I have now updated and corrected this on that documentation page.
>>
>
> Thank you for taking care of that!
>
> Please note that, while the example was in error, the basic syntax
> documentation that precedes it was correct:
> -
> <>
> The TextReference can be any of...
> a tiddler title <>
> a tiddler section <>
> a tiddler slice <>
> -
>
> In your particular case, you defined a section using the "!sometext"
> syntax... but then, in the reference, you used the doubled-colon *slice*
> separator instead of the doubled-hash *section* seperator.
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[tw] Re: How can I create an 'Edit' button for transluded tiddlers?

[Stephan Hradek]

Sorry I didn't read your code completely. But as I did something similar 
just yesterday, I combined my stuff and hacked the " Inline slider edit" 
tiddler for you. Just go to http://skeeve.tiddlyspot.com/ to check it.

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[tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

[Stephan Hradek]

It could as well just be the TW5 and browser version you're using. There 
was one (5.0.5 or 5.0.6?) where the notification remained in some FireFox 
versions.

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[tw] Re: How can I create an 'Edit' button for transluded tiddlers?

[Matabele]

Thanks - I'm playing with your code now. On my first attempt, it opened the 
main Menu again :-(

regards

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>
> Sorry I didn't read your code completely. But as I did something similar 
> just yesterday, I combined my stuff and hacked the " Inline slider edit" 
> tiddler for you. Just go to http://skeeve.tiddlyspot.com/ to check it.
>

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[tw] Computer Crashed, Encrypted TiddlyWiki5 No Longer Recognizes Password

[runforestrun61]

Hi. I'm having a big problem. My main TW5 file no longer opens with the 
password that I've given it. I'm using TiddlyDesktop for Linux.

I've been working on this wiki for about 2 weeks now, and I moved 
everything from my old Basket files over to my new TW5. ..and deleted my 
old files since i thought "I no longer needed them". 

Now, I save my stuff regularly, and I wasn't saving at the moment of the 
crash so I don't understand how my file could have been corrupted or 
anything like that.. There was a sudden power outage.

I have a TW5 file which I wasn't using at the time of the crash and it uses 
the same exact password that this one does, and it opens fine.

I've inspected my TW5 file, and it's down to 73.9kb from about 16 megabytes 
in size. So something must have went horribly wrong.

I do see this "nwsnapshot" file however holding 16 megs.. and I'm not sure 
if I've seen that file there before.

I don't know what to do. Can someone please help me?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Filtering plugins, which ones to use? Please help.

[Leo Staley]

That was enormously helpful, *thank you! *As I stare at this a bit more, I
think I'm coming to some solid conclusions, but I could also very well just
be getting myself mixed up in a huge knot. Is the following explanation to
myself correct?

*The following is a beginner's attempt to explain what filters are and how
filters work, and may not be even remotely correct. *

Consider the list macro. To use the list macro with a filter, enter <> This calls the list macro and tells it that it will be
generating a list from the next  bit of info which tells the list macro
what to search for and list. That next bit of info can be pretty long, but
must be encased quotation marks. The filter itself is inside square
brackets. <> The first word in
there is called the filter (not to be confused with the "filter" word which
came after the "list" macro). There are 3 built in filters in Tiddlywiki:
Field, Tag, and Tiddler. Using, for example, the tag filter will generate a
list of tiddlers based on the tags specified.

Plugins can add more filters in addition to these 3, as well as expanding
the filtering abilities.

MatchTagsPlugin does both. It expands the exhaustiveness and specificity
you can achieve using the tags filter (everywhere, including other
plugins!), as well as a new macro which functions similarly to <>, but does more stuff too.(not clear on exactly
what yet).

Yakov Litvin's ExtraFiltersPlugin
adds
6 new filters; 2 filtering in (adding), and 4 filtering out (excluding), as
he explains it. They are, respectively:
[all[parameter]]
[from[parameter]]
[and[parameter]]
[not[parameter]]
[unclassified[parameter]]
[hasPart[parameter]]

Jon Robson's 
ExtraFiltersPluginadds
what he counts as 13 new filters, but which my definition here counts
as 8. (I would only count the "is" filter as one). He groups them
differently than Yakov, so I'm not quite sure how they compare.

Finally, there are actually 2 secondary additional core filters of a
different kind than the ones above. They are the [sort]field]] filter, and
the [limit[number]] filter, and they merely delimit how the main filter
displays. Besides the 6 mentioned above, Yakov Litvin's
ExtraFiltersPlugin

includes
2 sort filters as well.

I'm still not sure how Filtr 
ListFiltr
 TagFiltr 
GetPlugin
 and ForEachTiddler
relate
to these in terms of functionality, overlap, redundancy, or synergy.

Cheers!
-Leo

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[tw] Re: How can I create an 'Edit' button for transluded tiddlers?

[Matabele]

Can your template (inline-slider-edit) understand a variable for the 
Tiddler Title (in place of 'Ting')? My problem is to edit the currently 
transcluded tiddler (which is variable) - and how do I identify the 
currently transcluded tiddler?

regards

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> Sorry I didn't read your code completely. But as I did something similar 
> just yesterday, I combined my stuff and hacked the " Inline slider edit" 
> tiddler for you. Just go to http://skeeve.tiddlyspot.com/ to check it.
>

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[tw] Re: How can I create an 'Edit' button for transluded tiddlers?

[Stephan Hradek]

I'm using that template like this:

<$list filter="[field:section{!!title}nsort[order]]">
{{!!title||checkpoint}}


The first !!title is the title of the tiddler where I have that code. So 
the list is searching for tiddlers having a field "section" which has as 
value the tiddler's title.

The second title is the currentTitle of the list widget. So this is a 
variable which works - kind of... You could use any variable there. The 
result will always be the currentTiddler of the list widget.

I tried this:

<$tiddler tiddler={{!!wantthis}}><$transclude 
tiddler="inline-slider-edit"/>

But it failed miserably :( No idea yet why it fails.

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[tw] [TW5] Export Story as HTML?

[Stephan Hradek]

In TWc  we could create a "HTML snapshot" of the current story.

Am I right that this is not yet possible with TW5?

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