Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-21 Thread Anton S.
Francois wrote:
>Actually, there is an ICS version for Linux :-)
Thanks! I downloaded it and examined. So, it's thread-based actually - not 
event-driven. You will still have a lot of work to port ICS provided that async 
model would stay for *nix :)

>Any Vista or Windows 7 has IPv6 installed. You don't need special hardware.
Well, I meant time-servers who support IPv6.

2All:
my SNTP client is available for downoad at the Overbyte's Usermade page (demo 
included).

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-19 Thread Francois PIETTE

So the SNTP component is already testing with ICS for IPv6?
And with Delphi for Mac and Linux?


I'm afraid I hadn't got your point. Especially concerning "Delphi for Mac 
and Linux".
There is still neither Delphi nor ICS for Mac/Linux (and porting ICS may 
be a greatly complicated task).


Actually, there is an ICS version for Linux :-) It is quite old now but 
still available for download. It requires Kylix to be compiled for Linux. 
Since MAC operating system is actually a kind of Unix, ICS for Kylix is 
likely to work without much changes when Embarcadero will publish his new 
version.


IP6 isn't tested as wel as multicast because I haven't this technologies 
and servers nearby.


Any Vista or Windows 7 has IPv6 installed. You don't need special hardware.

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-18 Thread Anton S.
Angus wrote:
>So the SNTP component is already testing with ICS for IPv6?  
>And with Delphi for Mac and Linux?
I'm afraid I hadn't got your point. Especially concerning "Delphi for Mac and 
Linux". There is still neither Delphi nor ICS for Mac/Linux (and porting ICS 
may be a greatly complicated task). IP6 isn't tested as wel as multicast 
because I haven't this technologies and servers nearby. But I'm not leaving my 
creation and will add features as soon as possible.

Arno wrote:
>Don't you use SVN locally for version control?
>I can't live without it, it's so easy with TortoiseSVN, and you
>do not have to run a SVN server in your LAN. A shared, file based 
>repository is enough (two mouse clicks to create a new repository).  
Well, for now a simple batch file which archives a project folder is still 
enough for me. I'm quite old-school at this, I know :)

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-17 Thread Arno Garrels
Anton S. wrote:
> Francois wrote:
>> The problem is not that I don't want to expand ICS. The problem is to
>> support ICS. There are a lot of interesting components that could be
>> added to ICS. By moving it into "usermade" page, I'm not commited to
>> support it. If included in ICS distribution, it has to be supported
>> and kept up-to-date with current ICS and Delphi. A huge work
>> actually. 
> Well, it's so simple that I guessed it wouldn't require any support
> or modifications. 
> 
>> Could you also write the text to be published on the usermade page ?
>> Have a look at the other text to get inspired
> I've sent you all the required files, hope I did everything correctly.
> 
> Arno wrote:
>> I wonder if a new "usermade" SVN repository wasn't a better place?
>> Most of the downloads from current ICS "usermade" page are obsolete.
> Well, if these usermades are obsolete SVN would change nothing.

I would not move existing usermade projects automatically only new 
ones and only if authors like it. Of course they should be familiar
with SVN. 

> And I personally am still not familiar with SVN, especially in
> committing a changes. Maybe others prefer old good archive
> down/uploading also :).  

Don't you use SVN locally for version control?
I can't live without it, it's so easy with TortoiseSVN, and you
do not have to run a SVN server in your LAN. A shared, file based 
repository is enough (two mouse clicks to create a new repository).   

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Well, it's so simple that I guessed it wouldn't require any support
> or modifications.

So the SNTP component is already testing with ICS for IPv6?  
And with Delphi for Mac and Linux?  

That is the issue with adding projects, the number that need checking and
fixing for new Delphi releases and ICS features keeps increasing. 

Angus


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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-17 Thread Anton S.
Francois wrote:
>The problem is not that I don't want to expand ICS. The problem is to 
>support ICS. There are a lot of interesting components that could be added 
>to ICS. By moving it into "usermade" page, I'm not commited to support it. 
>If included in ICS distribution, it has to be supported and kept up-to-date 
>with current ICS and Delphi. A huge work actually.
Well, it's so simple that I guessed it wouldn't require any support or 
modifications.

>Could you also write the text to be published on the usermade page ? Have a 
>look at the other text to get inspired
I've sent you all the required files, hope I did everything correctly.

Arno wrote:
>I wonder if a new "usermade" SVN repository wasn't a better place?
>Most of the downloads from current ICS "usermade" page are obsolete.
Well, if these usermades are obsolete SVN would change nothing. 
And I personally am still not familiar with SVN, especially in committing a 
changes. Maybe others prefer old good archive down/uploading also :).

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-15 Thread Arno Garrels
Francois PIETTE wrote:
> I don't think moving the content of the usermade page would change
> anything about update.
> I'm even less convinced that most of the "usermade" author would care
> about using a SVN to update their code.

You are obviously right otherwise there would have been more feedback. 
It's OK, less work for us anyway. 

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Francois PIETTE
I don't think moving the content of the usermade page would change anything 
about update.
I'm even less convinced that most of the "usermade" author would care about 
using a SVN to update their code.
And I don't want to moved everything out of my website since I get some 
(small) revenue because of Google Ads. Each time someone clicks on an ad, I 
get a few cents. Not much money, but it pays the hosting. In the past I had 
several free hosting but each time I have been asked to go out because it 
was to much trafic for a free hosting. So advertising is needed to pay for 
the website. Would be good if more people click on the ads...


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Francois PIETTE wrote:

Do you want an entry on the "user made" web page at ICS website ?

Well, if you don't wish to expand ICS, it will work too.


The problem is not that I don't want to expand ICS. The problem is to
support ICS. There are a lot of interesting components that could be
added to ICS. By moving it into "usermade" page, I'm not commited to
support it. If included in ICS distribution, it has to be supported
and kept up-to-date with current ICS and Delphi. A huge work actually.


I'll polish the source and create simple demo and send it to you.


OK, thanks. It will surely interest many peoples.
Could you also write the text to be published on the usermade page ?
Have a look at the other text to get inspired :-)


I wonder if a new "usermade" SVN repository wasn't a better place?
Most of the downloads from current ICS "usermade" page are obsolete.
Seems like the effort to maintain those contributions is to high.
Just an idea, the new repro could be openend at sourceforge.net or
if Angus agrees on his servers?

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Arno Garrels
Francois PIETTE wrote:
>>> Do you want an entry on the "user made" web page at ICS website ?
>> Well, if you don't wish to expand ICS, it will work too.
> 
> The problem is not that I don't want to expand ICS. The problem is to
> support ICS. There are a lot of interesting components that could be
> added to ICS. By moving it into "usermade" page, I'm not commited to
> support it. If included in ICS distribution, it has to be supported
> and kept up-to-date with current ICS and Delphi. A huge work actually.
> 
>> I'll polish the source and create simple demo and send it to you.
> 
> OK, thanks. It will surely interest many peoples.
> Could you also write the text to be published on the usermade page ?
> Have a look at the other text to get inspired :-)

I wonder if a new "usermade" SVN repository wasn't a better place?
Most of the downloads from current ICS "usermade" page are obsolete.
Seems like the effort to maintain those contributions is to high.
Just an idea, the new repro could be openend at sourceforge.net or
if Angus agrees on his servers? 

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Francois PIETTE

Do you want an entry on the "user made" web page at ICS website ?

Well, if you don't wish to expand ICS, it will work too.


The problem is not that I don't want to expand ICS. The problem is to 
support ICS. There are a lot of interesting components that could be added 
to ICS. By moving it into "usermade" page, I'm not commited to support it. 
If included in ICS distribution, it has to be supported and kept up-to-date 
with current ICS and Delphi. A huge work actually.



I'll polish the source and create simple demo and send it to you.


OK, thanks. It will surely interest many peoples.
Could you also write the text to be published on the usermade page ? Have a 
look at the other text to get inspired :-)


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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Anton S.
Angus wrote:
>I did SNTP client and server 10 years ago, they are improved versions of
>code from the usermade page:

Ahhh what a trouble! Why I hadn't know that!
Anyway I like my implementation more :)

Francois wrote:
>Do you want an entry on the "user made" web page at ICS website ?
Well, if you don't wish to expand ICS, it will work too. I'll polish the source 
and create simple demo and send it to you.

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Francois PIETTE
I just completed a TSNTPCli class which performs time-sync with NTP 
servers.
I guess it might be included into standard ICS toolkit. What do you think, 
is someone interested?


Do you want an entry on the "user made" web page at ICS website ?

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Re: [twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> I just completed a TSNTPCli class which performs time-sync with NTP 
> servers. I guess it might be included into standard ICS toolkit. 
> What do you think, is someone interested?

I did SNTP client and server 10 years ago, they are improved versions of
code from the usermade page:   

http://www.magsys.co.uk/delphi/magics.asp

Angus

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[twsocket] ICS-based SNTP (Simple network time protocol) client

2010-12-14 Thread Anton S.
Hello all,
I just completed a TSNTPCli class which performs time-sync with NTP servers. I 
guess it might be included into standard ICS toolkit. What do you think, is 
someone interested?

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