Re: [U2] VOC Pointer [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2013-03-04 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Or, instead of SAMBA on the HP-UX system, you could have an NFS share on
the Windows box - Windows Server 2008 has Microsoft "NFS Services for
Windows" and there are several freeware / shareware / commercial NFS
clients for Windows.

Lots of ways to skin this particular cat

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cheney
Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 11:51 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

How about using scp with public/private key authentication running from
a unix cron to scp from the windows host to a dir on the unix host?
Requires ssh installed on both hosts.

I've also installed Cygwin on a windows host in the past and used that
for the ssh/scp component as you get a nice unix flavour when you ssh in
remotely.

Alternatively as someone has already said try using smbmount to mount a
windows share on a unix dir and use unix cp or mv. Requires samba
installed on your HPUX host and that install must have the smbmount (or
equivalent) utility.

You could also use ftp to fetch the files from the windows server.
Requires ftp server installed on windows host.

All the above could be driven from within a UD/UV basic program.

HTH
Peter

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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Peter Cheney
How about using scp with public/private key authentication running from a unix 
cron to scp from the windows host to a dir on the unix host? Requires ssh 
installed on both hosts.

I've also installed Cygwin on a windows host in the past and used that for the 
ssh/scp component as you get a nice unix flavour when you ssh in remotely.

Alternatively as someone has already said try using smbmount to mount a windows 
share on a unix dir and use unix cp or mv. Requires samba installed on your 
HPUX host and that install must have the smbmount (or equivalent) utility.

You could also use ftp to fetch the files from the windows server. Requires ftp 
server installed on windows host.

All the above could be driven from within a UD/UV basic program.

HTH
Peter


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 7:12
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
> and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
> happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
> use nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> >
> > John
> >
> Cheers,
> Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/13 21:11, Israel, John R. wrote:
> I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do 
> it all the time.
> 
> The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
> it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
> THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
> great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command 
> from Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).

mount -t cifs //windows/share /mnt/windowsdrive -o user=username -o
pass=password

This will enable you to copy from the unix box. You'll need to hunt up
what you need to install to get the "-t cifs" option but it should come
with samba - "man mount.cifs".

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Rutherford, Marc
If I better understand your process I suggest:

Create a Unidata directory file:   CREATE-FILE DIR filename

Share that resulting Unix directory as per suggestions with samba.

Map a windows drive to said directory.

--->  Have the pdf-create process write the pdf files directly to the share 
drive.

Presto: the pdf are in the Unix directory.  They are visible as record IDs by 
listing the Unidata DIR filename.   

Since they are already in a Unix directory go ahead and do you tar magic...

If you want to read them directly into UNIBASIC I would open the DIR file with 
a OPENSEQ for best performance.

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:36 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

Let me give a full picture.

I have a program on our Unix box running UniData.  This program processes a 
BUNCH of nightly stuff including the launching of our PDF invoices which are 
built on a Windows server (I have no control of that).  When the job finishes, 
one of the things I need to do is verify that the PDFs were in fact created and 
then send them out to a 3rd party source to be printed, stuffed and mailed.  I 
thought it would be easier to copy the PDFs back to a temp folder on the Unix 
box, tar them and send them to the 3rd party processing company.

I understand that I could have a job on the Windows box do this part, but then 
I would need some mechanism to fire off the script on the WIndows box.  Then, 
when the Windows script is done, it would need some way to fire off/release the 
continuation of the tasks on the Unix box.  Timing is important here.

It may seem clumsy to pull the PDFs back on the Unix box, but I was trying to 
keep all the control in one place and not try to chain things between 
difference boxes and hope I got my timings right.  Fewer points of failure and 
no real timing issues.

STOP LAUGHING AT ME!


JRI


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:24 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows

Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Israel, John R. 
> I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where
> UniData lives). Can I map a VOC pointer? Other thoughts?
> Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.

I'm not as familiar with internals in UV/UD as with other platforms so
this may not apply - and I'm eager to understand exactly how these
systems Do work in this regard...

If you create a Voc pointer and use Copy, I believe the DBMS would
pull data through the virtual machine, drawing it into the DBMS from
the source, applying EOL/AM conversions, then writing it back out to
the target with similar character translation. That can be hugely
painful.

On other platforms that have a virtual machine environment (blob),
overflow frames, etc, that would also mean pulling lots of frames from
overflow and then just releasing them. Again, a major performance
issue at the time of operation, and a source of rapid overflow
fragmentation if done too often.

I agree with the suggestions by others to use FTP, etc, and for the
reason stated here I would strongly discourage using DBMS verbs for
OS-level file transfers.

Now, can someone familiar with UV and UD internals confirm or correct
that?

Thanks.
T

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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
You can create a script, which runs in Unidata/Unix, that simply ftp's into a 
directory and copies *everything* sitting there.
And this can be done automatically without user intervention.


 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Israel, John R. 
To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


Let me give a full picture.

I have a program on our Unix box running UniData.  This program processes a 
BUNCH of nightly stuff including the launching of our PDF invoices which are 
built on a Windows server (I have no control of that).  When the job finishes, 
one of the things I need to do is verify that the PDFs were in fact created and 
then send them out to a 3rd party source to be printed, stuffed and mailed.  I 
thought it would be easier to copy the PDFs back to a temp folder on the Unix 
box, tar them and send them to the 3rd party processing company.

I understand that I could have a job on the Windows box do this part, but then 
I 
would need some mechanism to fire off the script on the WIndows box.  Then, 
when 
the Windows script is done, it would need some way to fire off/release the 
continuation of the tasks on the Unix box.  Timing is important here.

It may seem clumsy to pull the PDFs back on the Unix box, but I was trying to 
keep all the control in one place and not try to chain things between 
difference 
boxes and hope I got my timings right.  Fewer points of failure and no real 
timing issues.

STOP LAUGHING AT ME!


JRI


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:24 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it 
from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  THAT 
is 
the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be great from 
Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from Unix 
(unless 
I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> 
wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it 

Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
>From a basic pgm, yes, but I can run UNIX commands as needed.

I might be off course here.

See E-mail from a minute ago for a full picture.

JRI


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:32 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

Hang on Kee Mo Sa Be.
I thought you wanted to "map a VOC pointer" ?
That implies you want to run this from *inside* U2... not from Unix, but rather 
from BASIC ?

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Rutherford, Marc 
To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> 
wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
> and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
> happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
> use nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> >
> > John
> >
> Cheers,
> Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
Let me give a full picture.

I have a program on our Unix box running UniData.  This program processes a 
BUNCH of nightly stuff including the launching of our PDF invoices which are 
built on a Windows server (I have no control of that).  When the job finishes, 
one of the things I need to do is verify that the PDFs were in fact created and 
then send them out to a 3rd party source to be printed, stuffed and mailed.  I 
thought it would be easier to copy the PDFs back to a temp folder on the Unix 
box, tar them and send them to the 3rd party processing company.

I understand that I could have a job on the Windows box do this part, but then 
I would need some mechanism to fire off the script on the WIndows box.  Then, 
when the Windows script is done, it would need some way to fire off/release the 
continuation of the tasks on the Unix box.  Timing is important here.

It may seem clumsy to pull the PDFs back on the Unix box, but I was trying to 
keep all the control in one place and not try to chain things between 
difference boxes and hope I got my timings right.  Fewer points of failure and 
no real timing issues.

STOP LAUGHING AT ME!


JRI


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:24 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
> and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
> happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
> use nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> 

Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
Hang on Kee Mo Sa Be.
I thought you wanted to "map a VOC pointer" ?
That implies you want to run this from *inside* U2... not from Unix, but rather 
from BASIC ?

 

 

 

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From: Rutherford, Marc 
To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it 
from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  THAT 
is 
the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be great from 
Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from Unix 
(unless 
I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> 
wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
> and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
> happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
> use nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> >
> > John
> >
> Cheers,
> Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Rutherford, Marc
So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
> and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
> happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
> use nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> >
> > John
> >
> Cheers,
> Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
If you already have samba on HP-UX, then, and you want to pursue the samba
route.

You can mount a windows share on the HP-UX machine.

I know how to do this in Linux and could post a decent how-to, BUT, I have
never done it in HP-UX.

Found a random blog entry here:
http://www.blog.rogersit.net/hp-ux-cifs-mount-windows-share/2012/03/27/


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Wjhonson  wrote:

> ftp can be used without user intervention
> thats how we do it, in several nightly runs for various processes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Israel, John R. 
> To: U2 Users List 
> Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 12:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
>
> Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.
>
>
> JRI
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
> On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:50 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> John,
>
> If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp.
>
> Marc Rutherford
> Principal Programmer Analyst
> Advanced Bionics LLC
> 661) 362 1754
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
> On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:37 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData
> lives).
>
> Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Other thoughts?
>
> Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
>
>
> John
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
ftp can be used without user intervention
thats how we do it, in several nightly runs for various processes

 

 

 

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From: Israel, John R. 
To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


JRI

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On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp. 

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:37 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
You also might be better off using winscp on the windows server.
You could write a program/script to "SCP" the files over to the HP-UX
server every night.
WinSCP has some nice windows command line options.

Chances are you already have ssh, or ftp installed in HP-UX.

http://winscp.net/eng/index.php


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:11 PM, John Thompson wrote:

> It appears HP, may have their own version of samba too- if you wanted to
> utilize HP support.
>
> https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do%3Fhpweb_printable%3Dtrue%26productNumber%3DB8725AA
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Robert Porter wrote:
>
>> Samba should be fine for this then...
>> Create a directory type file in UD and setup Samba to share this.
>> Map it on the Windows server.
>> Define some process @ whatever time you like to copy/write the files on
>> the Windows server.
>> If they need to be processed somehow on the UD side, create a task that
>> is either time dependent, cyclical or signaled by Windows server to kick
>> off.
>>
>> Easy Peasy and it's been rock solid for us.
>> We write a transaction file on the Windows server to a Samba share on the
>> HP box.
>> Then write a 0 byte file telling that UV watches for, letting it know
>> it's available for processing.
>> We do 1000's of transactions (probably 10's of 1000's) across hundreds of
>> interface directories with only 2 phantoms in very near real time.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java
>> Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst
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>> Ochsner Health System
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Porter
It's part of the HP-UX... look for CIFS server.
 


>>> John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com> 3/4/2013 3:06 PM >> ( 
>>> mailto:jthompson...@gmail.com )
...
Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on
the web, it might make your life easier.

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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. < 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
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> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer
>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
> > UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
> network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
> recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
> pdfs from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
> and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
> happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
> use nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> >
> > John
> >
> Cheers,
> Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
It appears HP, may have their own version of samba too- if you wanted to
utilize HP support.
https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do%3Fhpweb_printable%3Dtrue%26productNumber%3DB8725AA




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Robert Porter  wrote:

> Samba should be fine for this then...
> Create a directory type file in UD and setup Samba to share this.
> Map it on the Windows server.
> Define some process @ whatever time you like to copy/write the files on
> the Windows server.
> If they need to be processed somehow on the UD side, create a task that is
> either time dependent, cyclical or signaled by Windows server to kick off.
>
> Easy Peasy and it's been rock solid for us.
> We write a transaction file on the Windows server to a Samba share on the
> HP box.
> Then write a 0 byte file telling that UV watches for, letting it know it's
> available for processing.
> We do 1000's of transactions (probably 10's of 1000's) across hundreds of
> interface directories with only 2 phantoms in very near real time.
>
> Rob
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly "over-simplified"
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before,
this could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on
the web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. <
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com> wrote:

> We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy
> from Windows to Unix.
>
> What would the syntax be to copy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> JRI
>
>
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>
> On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> > I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData
> lives).
> >
> > Can I map a VOC pointer?
>
> Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a network
> path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD recognises a network
> path it'll probably refuse to access it.
>
> And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
>
> Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the pdfs
> from Windows to nix.
>
> Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory and
> use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's happened to
> it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can use
> nix commands to copy.
> >
> > Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> >
> > John
> >
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Porter
Samba should be fine for this then... 
Create a directory type file in UD and setup Samba to share this.
Map it on the Windows server.
Define some process @ whatever time you like to copy/write the files on the 
Windows server.
If they need to be processed somehow on the UD side, create a task that is 
either time dependent, cyclical or signaled by Windows server to kick off.
 
Easy Peasy and it's been rock solid for us.
We write a transaction file on the Windows server to a Samba share on the HP 
box.
Then write a 0 byte file telling that UV watches for, letting it know it's 
available for processing.
We do 1000's of transactions (probably 10's of 1000's) across hundreds of 
interface directories with only 2 phantoms in very near real time.
 
Rob

 
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Frailey

make sure if you use some sort of ftp that your set the transfer to binary
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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:56 PM
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Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


JRI

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John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp.

Marc Rutherford
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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:37 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
lives).


Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


JRI

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John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp. 

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:37 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy from 
Windows to Unix.

What would the syntax be to copy?


Thanks


JRI


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On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
> lives).
> 
> Can I map a VOC pointer?

Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a network path 
in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD recognises a network path 
it'll probably refuse to access it.

And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> 
> Other thoughts?

Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the pdfs from 
Windows to nix.

Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory and use 
smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's happened to it) to 
make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can use nix commands 
to copy.
> 
> Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> 
> John
> 
Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Frailey

winftp, windows ftp explorer or any other windows ftp package
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To: "U2 Users List" 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer


I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
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Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Rutherford, Marc
John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp. 

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Porter
We use Samba to move 1000's of interface transaction files across from Windows 
servers to a HP-UX UniVerse server daily. The Windows server creates the file, 
and UV on the HP-UX box picks them up. The directories and files are create on 
the HP-UX server through a Samba share. Haven't tried it the other way where 
the directories/files actually live on Windows. HTH

 
 
 
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
> I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
> lives).
> 
> Can I map a VOC pointer?

Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a
network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD recognises
a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
> 
> Other thoughts?

Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the pdfs
from Windows to nix.

Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory
and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's
happened to it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory
where you can use nix commands to copy.
> 
> Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
> 
> John
> 
Cheers,
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[U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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RE: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-06 Thread Bill_H
Thanks to all who replied.

Bruce: ED gets the same response
  Welcome to the IBM UniVerse Telnet Server.
  Enter user name: wphaskett
  Enter password:
  Account name or path(DTA):DTAWEB
  UniVerse Command Language 10.1
  (c) Copyright IBM Corporation 2003. All rights reserved.
  DTAWEB logged on: Tue Dec 06 11:35:04 2005
  
  Unable to open your 'VOC' file.
  >ED VOC VOC
  Unable to open VOC file.
  >

Ray:  A; the ticket.  :-)  SETFILE VOC VOC OVERWRITING.

John:  Of course, I should have thought of that.

Wouldn't one think it appropriate to disallow altering file pointers, unless
explicitly requested via an option of ED or something else?  Oh well, live
and learn and be careful.

Bill Haskett
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> 
> Goo'day, Bill,
> 
> At 16:10 05/12/05 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >I was working on upgrading an account to the most recent version of 
> >UniVerse PE.  When coping a list of custom VOC items, from a custom 
> >NEWAC file, to the local VOC (with an overwrite) it happened 
> one of the 
> >item IDs was "VOC", which was a Pick synonym for the (MD):
> >
> >001 Q
> >.
> >.
> >009 L
> >010 12
> >
> >It seems now I continually get the message:
> > >LU
> >
> >These are the UniVerse users presently sharing the system.
> >
> > uid  User No  User Name Terminal No 
>  Login Time
> >   0 2820  NT AUTHORITY\system   uvdlock:2820
>  Nov 25 17:49
> >* 0 5508  ASIBILL\wphaskett telnet:5508  
> Dec 5 10:56
> >
> >There are currently 2 users logged on the system.
> > >CT VOC VOC
> >Can not open the "VOC" file
> > >LISTF
> >Can not open the "VOC" file
> >
> >Is there a way I can modify the "VOC" item back.  I can 
> still see the 
> >file exists in Windows Explorer.
> 
> Does this help?
> 
>  >CT VOC VOC
> 
>   VOC
> 0001 F
> 0002 VOC
> 0003 D_VOC
>  >
> 
> >Any help would be appreciated.  :-)
> 
> Use ED?
> 
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RE: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-06 Thread Keith W. Roberts
You got several ways to fix it, but noone mentioned that you should replace
the offending item in NEWACC as well (or it'll mess up every account you
update).

In U2, VOC is *always* the real file; MD is the synonym for Pick
compatibility.

-Keith

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Subject: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

> I was working on upgrading an account to the most recent version of
> UniVerse PE.  When coping a list of custom VOC items, from a custom
> NEWAC file, to the local VOC (with an overwrite) it happened one of
> the item IDs was "VOC", which was a Pick synonym for the (MD):
> 
> 001 Q
> .
> .
> 009 L
> 010 12
> 
> It seems now I continually get the message:
>> LU
> 
> These are the UniVerse users presently sharing the system.
> 
> uid  User No  User Name Terminal No Login Time
>   0 2820  NT AUTHORITY\system   uvdlock:2820
> Nov 25 17:49
> * 0 5508  ASIBILL\wphaskett telnet:5508
> Dec 5 10:56
> 
> There are currently 2 users logged on the system.
>> CT VOC VOC
> Can not open the "VOC" file
>> LISTF
> Can not open the "VOC" file
> 
> Is there a way I can modify the "VOC" item back.  I can still see the
> file exists in Windows Explorer.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  :-)
> 
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Re: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-06 Thread Herve Balestrieri
Open a session in UNIX shell. Then :

$ cd ACCOUNT_DIRECTORY
$ `cat /.uvhome`/bin/UVwrite VOC VOC F VOC D_VOC

... For your customized "NEWACC" file, you could do, when logged in UNIX as
the UniVerse Administrator :

$ cd `cat /.uvhome`
$ `cat /.uvhome`/bin/UVdelete NEWACC/NEWACC VOC

Hope this will help

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Re: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-05 Thread John Hester

Bill_H wrote:

Is there a way I can modify the "VOC" item back.  I can still see the file
exists in Windows Explorer.


You should be able to create a VOC pointer in another account, or the UV 
master account, that is a type "F" and points to the VOC file with the 
overwritten VOC entry:


001: F
002: path\to\bad\VOC
003: path\to\bad\D_VOC

then:

ED BAD.VOC VOC

and replace it with

001: F
002: VOC
003: D_VOC

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Re: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-05 Thread Ray Wurlod
SETFILE VOC VOC OVERWRITING
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RE: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-05 Thread Bob Woodward
Do you still have the MD entry that you can use?  If not, log into
another account (like UV) set a temporary file pointer and edit it that
way.

BobW
 
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Subject: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

I was working on upgrading an account to the most recent version of
UniVerse
PE.  When coping a list of custom VOC items, from a custom NEWAC file,
to
the local VOC (with an overwrite) it happened one of the item IDs was
"VOC",
which was a Pick synonym for the (MD):

001 Q
.
.
009 L
010 12

It seems now I continually get the message:
>LU

These are the UniVerse users presently sharing the system.

uid  User No  User Name Terminal No  Login Time
  0 2820  NT AUTHORITY\system   uvdlock:2820 Nov 25
17:49
* 0 5508  ASIBILL\wphaskett telnet:5508  Dec 5 10:56

There are currently 2 users logged on the system.
>CT VOC VOC
Can not open the "VOC" file
>LISTF
Can not open the "VOC" file

Is there a way I can modify the "VOC" item back.  I can still see the
file
exists in Windows Explorer.

Any help would be appreciated.  :-)

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Re: [U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-05 Thread Bruce Nichol

Goo'day, Bill,

At 16:10 05/12/05 -0800, you wrote:


I was working on upgrading an account to the most recent version of UniVerse
PE.  When coping a list of custom VOC items, from a custom NEWAC file, to
the local VOC (with an overwrite) it happened one of the item IDs was "VOC",
which was a Pick synonym for the (MD):

001 Q
.
.
009 L
010 12

It seems now I continually get the message:
>LU

These are the UniVerse users presently sharing the system.

uid  User No  User Name Terminal No  Login Time
  0 2820  NT AUTHORITY\system   uvdlock:2820 Nov 25 17:49
* 0 5508  ASIBILL\wphaskett telnet:5508  Dec 5 10:56

There are currently 2 users logged on the system.
>CT VOC VOC
Can not open the "VOC" file
>LISTF
Can not open the "VOC" file

Is there a way I can modify the "VOC" item back.  I can still see the file
exists in Windows Explorer.


Does this help?

>CT VOC VOC

 VOC
0001 F
0002 VOC
0003 D_VOC
>


Any help would be appreciated.  :-)


Use ED?



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[U2] VOC pointer replaced

2005-12-05 Thread Bill_H
I was working on upgrading an account to the most recent version of UniVerse
PE.  When coping a list of custom VOC items, from a custom NEWAC file, to
the local VOC (with an overwrite) it happened one of the item IDs was "VOC",
which was a Pick synonym for the (MD):

001 Q
.
.
009 L
010 12

It seems now I continually get the message:
>LU

These are the UniVerse users presently sharing the system.

uid  User No  User Name Terminal No  Login Time
  0 2820  NT AUTHORITY\system   uvdlock:2820 Nov 25 17:49
* 0 5508  ASIBILL\wphaskett telnet:5508  Dec 5 10:56

There are currently 2 users logged on the system.
>CT VOC VOC
Can not open the "VOC" file
>LISTF
Can not open the "VOC" file

Is there a way I can modify the "VOC" item back.  I can still see the file
exists in Windows Explorer.

Any help would be appreciated.  :-)

Bill
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working

2005-07-12 Thread John Jenkins
SET.INDEX filename path

Please watch copying files at the O.S level if they could be in use. On
UniVerse please use SUSPEND.FILES ON / OFF and on UniData dbpause /
dbresume.

Of course you could just stop the database...

JayJay
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-11 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Thanks for the response Rich. I figured I was only looking at Universe index at 
this level, just wanted to be sure. You never know where SB+ puts its little 
goodies. 

There are Universe level indexes on this file in both live and test. LIST.INDEX 
filename ALL when run in the account properly shows them, and SET.INDEX INFORM 
shows the proper pathing when in the accounts. Besides.. this is {apparently} 
happening on every file with an Index, not just this one file.

I am not 'too' concerned about this as I can see the file in live via this 
pointer which is all I absolutely need to do. I'll only be reading the main 
file, no access to index, no changing data. I did want to give the process a 
good testing through the test account, which it appears I won't be able to do. 

We are of course concerned that we don't have index crossing over the live and 
test account on the same box. But all the commands {suggested here} I have run 
tell me that they are fine. That the process we run when we copy over the 
account is correct. 

Ps. Seems Mr. Bill Gates needs to get "pathing" into his dictionary :) 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
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 -Original Message-
From:   Richard Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, July 11, 2005 3:46 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

The I_ files are Universe indexes.  It seems like the you don't have
indexes on the file on Live, but the header still believes that you have
them.  I would use the SET-INDEX command to clear the path from the
header.  The exact syntax escapes me at the moment, but online help should
give you that.
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-11 Thread Mark Eastwood
"SET.INDEX TO NULL"

Mark
Annapolis, MD

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Subject: RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

The I_ files are Universe indexes.  It seems like the you don't have
indexes on the file on Live, but the header still believes that you have
them.  I would use the SET-INDEX command to clear the path from the
header.  The exact syntax escapes me at the moment, but online help
should
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-11 Thread Richard Taylor
The I_ files are Universe indexes.  It seems like the you don't have
indexes on the file on Live, but the header still believes that you have
them.  I would use the SET-INDEX command to clear the path from the
header.  The exact syntax escapes me at the moment, but online help should
give you that.


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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
> 
> I am aware there are two different levels of indexes in play here. SB+
and
> Universe. Which level is the I_ ?
> 
> TEST ACCOUNT: LIST fails when pointing to the test account
> 
> >CT VOC SM.ORDERS
>  SM.ORDERS
> 0001 F
> 0002 \\VPIMP2\MP6VPITEST\SM.ORDERS
> 0003 E:\CADTEST\D_SM.ORDERS
> 
> >LIST.INDEX SM.ORDERS ALL
> Program "LIST.INDEX": pc = 3E0, Unable to open index map
> "g:\mp6vpitest\I_SM.ORD
> ERS/INDEX.MAP" for read/write,Unable to open "SM.ORDERS".
> 
> >SET.INDEX SM.ORDERS INFORM
> Program "SET.INDEX": pc = CD6, Unable to open index map
> "g:\mp6vpitest\I_SM.ORDE
> RS/INDEX.MAP" for read/write,File SM.ORDERS has no secondary indices.
> Header incorrectly contains path indicating indices should exist!
> (g:\mp6vpitest\I_SM.ORDERS)
> 


> Thanks,
> 
> Marilyn A. Hilb
> Value Part, Inc
> Direct: 847-918-6099
> Fax: 847-367-1892
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.valuepart.com
> 
>  -----Original Message-
> From: Brian Leach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 3:02 AM
> To:   u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject:  RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)
> 
> > Marilyn Hilb wrote:
> > >The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them,
> > >Index Map?.
> 
> As Karl stated, the index file location is hard coded into the file
> header.
> You can amend this using the SET.INDEX command. This can either reset
the
> index path to the local location OR clear the index path so you can
> rebuild.
> 
> Copying files with indices attached is one of those gotchas that
> frequently
> messes up systems, particularly if someone wants to make a test account
on
> the same machine and ends up with test files accessing live indices.
> 
> Brian
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-11 Thread Marilyn Hilb
I am not certain that this is the problem here after looking at this. SET.INDEX 
filename INFORM. Is returning the right path in all cases but when I am on the 
different machine.

The messages being returned do show the correct path. The only odd thing is the 
forward slash before the INDEX.MAP. 

I am aware there are two different levels of indexes in play here. SB+ and 
Universe. Which level is the I_ ?

TEST ACCOUNT: LIST fails when pointing to the test account

>CT VOC SM.ORDERS   
 SM.ORDERS  
0001 F  
0002 \\VPIMP2\MP6VPITEST\SM.ORDERS  
0003 E:\CADTEST\D_SM.ORDERS 

>LIST.INDEX SM.ORDERS ALL   
Program "LIST.INDEX": pc = 3E0, Unable to open index map "g:\mp6vpitest\I_SM.ORD
ERS/INDEX.MAP" for read/write,Unable to open "SM.ORDERS".   

>SET.INDEX SM.ORDERS INFORM 
Program "SET.INDEX": pc = CD6, Unable to open index map "g:\mp6vpitest\I_SM.ORDE
RS/INDEX.MAP" for read/write,File SM.ORDERS has no secondary indices.   
Header incorrectly contains path indicating indices should exist!   
(g:\mp6vpitest\I_SM.ORDERS) 

>   



LIVE ACCOUNT: - LIST works fine when voc is pointing to the live account. 

>CT VOC SM.ORDERS  
 SM.ORDERS 
0001 F 
0002 \\VPIMP2\MP6VPI\SM.ORDERS 
0003 E:\CADTEST\D_SM.ORDERS   
 
>SET.INDEX SM.ORDERS INFORM
File SM.ORDERS has no secondary indices.   
Header incorrectly contains path indicating indices should exist!  
(H:\MP6VPI\I_SM.ORDERS)
   
>LIST.INDEX SM.ORDERS ALL  
File "SM.ORDERS" has no indices.   
>  


Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Original Message-
From:   Brian Leach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, July 11, 2005 3:02 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

> Marilyn Hilb wrote:
> >The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them, 
> >Index Map?.

As Karl stated, the index file location is hard coded into the file header.
You can amend this using the SET.INDEX command. This can either reset the
index path to the local location OR clear the index path so you can rebuild.

Copying files with indices attached is one of those gotchas that frequently
messes up systems, particularly if someone wants to make a test account on
the same machine and ends up with test files accessing live indices.

Brian
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-11 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Thanks To Karl and Brian. I thought it was something like this. 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
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 -Original Message-
From:   Brian Leach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, July 11, 2005 3:02 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

> Marilyn Hilb wrote:
> >The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them, 
> >Index Map?.

As Karl stated, the index file location is hard coded into the file header.
You can amend this using the SET.INDEX command. This can either reset the
index path to the local location OR clear the index path so you can rebuild.

Copying files with indices attached is one of those gotchas that frequently
messes up systems, particularly if someone wants to make a test account on
the same machine and ends up with test files accessing live indices.

Brian
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RE: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-11 Thread Brian Leach
> Marilyn Hilb wrote:
> >The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them, 
> >Index Map?.

As Karl stated, the index file location is hard coded into the file header.
You can amend this using the SET.INDEX command. This can either reset the
index path to the local location OR clear the index path so you can rebuild.

Copying files with indices attached is one of those gotchas that frequently
messes up systems, particularly if someone wants to make a test account on
the same machine and ends up with test files accessing live indices.

Brian
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Re: [U2] Voc pointer not working

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Re: [U2] Voc pointer not working (fwd)

2005-07-10 Thread Karl L Pearson
Marilyn Hilb wrote:

>Hi all. I have a question and hopefully I'll give you all the info you
>need to answer.
>
>Universe 9.4 SB+ 3.4.0 I don't know if SB+ comes into play on this.  NT
>
>We make a copy of our live account every so often. When doing this we use
>NT to make the copy and then run it through a universe process so that
>Universe knows about the account. All works just fine, we have been doing
>this for years.
>
>What I just am now doing is creating a VOC pointer on a different machine
>(our testing machine which happens to be w2k) and pointing over to
>Universe files in the copied account. The pointer works fine on some
>files and not so fine on other. It works fine on all files in the Live
>account, it is the copy of the account it doesn't work in.
>
>The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them,
>Index Map?.
>
>  
>

A Ha. You are seeing Indexes, which have the absolute path hard-coded in
the file header. Those can't be copied by non-uniVerse processes without
them appearing to be corrupted. There are no VOC pointers to those files
in a 'real' account; only the header of the file to which each index
belongs.

If you wish to see whether the indexes are working on the copy, try this
command:

LIST.INDEX FILENAME ALL

in the VOC of the copy account.

HTH

Karl

>We are of the mind that when we copy the account over, some pointer is
>not being re-set in these files/index maps. That we are failing to run a
>routine when we first copy the account.
>
>This voc pointer works fine on the original 'live' account and fine on
>files in the test account that don't have this I-folder.
>
>We checked permissions, sharing and all those goodies. Don't see any
>reason there for this. And again, it works on (apparently) all files
>without the "I-xx" and doesn't work on all files with one.
>
>What are we missing?
>
>  
>
>>CT VOC SM.ORDERS
>>
>>
>   
>  
> SM.ORDERS
>0001 F 
> 
>0002 \\MACHINENAME\ACCOUNTTEST\SM.ORDERS   
>   
>0003 E:\OTHERTEST\D_SM.ORDERS  
>   
>  
>
>>LIST SM.ORDERS
>> 
>>
>>
>Unable to open index map "g:\accounttest\I_SM.ORDERS/INDEX.MAP" for 
>read/write,Un
>able to open "SM.ORDERS" file. 
> 
>  
>
>>  
>>
>>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marilyn A. Hilb 
>Value Part, Inc
>Direct: 847-918-6099
>Fax: 847-367-1892
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [U2] Voc pointer not working

2005-07-10 Thread Karl L. Pearson

Marilyn Hilb wrote:


Hi all. I have a question and hopefully I'll give you all the info you need to 
answer.

Universe 9.4 SB+ 3.4.0 I don't know if SB+ comes into play on this.  NT

We make a copy of our live account every so often. When doing this we use NT to 
make the copy and then run it through a universe process so that Universe knows 
about the account. All works just fine, we have been doing this for years.

What I just am now doing is creating a VOC pointer on a different machine (our 
testing machine which happens to be w2k) and pointing over to Universe files in 
the copied account. The pointer works fine on some files and not so fine on 
other. It works fine on all files in the Live account, it is the copy of the 
account it doesn't work in.

The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them, Index Map?.

 



A Ha. You are seeing Indexes, which have the absolute path hard-coded in 
the file header. Those can't be copied by non-uniVerse processes without 
them appearing to be corrupted. There are no VOC pointers to those files 
in a 'real' account; only the header of the file to which each index 
belongs.


If you wish to see whether the indexes are working on the copy, try this 
command:


LIST.INDEX FILENAME ALL

in the VOC of the copy account.

HTH

Karl


We are of the mind that when we copy the account over, some pointer is not 
being re-set in these files/index maps. That we are failing to run a routine 
when we first copy the account.

This voc pointer works fine on the original 'live' account and fine on files in the test account that don't have this I-folder. 

We checked permissions, sharing and all those goodies. Don't see any reason there for this. And again, it works on (apparently) all files without the "I-xx" and doesn't work on all files with one. 


What are we missing?

 

CT VOC SM.ORDERS   
   

   
SM.ORDERS  
0001 F  
0002 \\MACHINENAME\ACCOUNTTEST\SM.ORDERS  
0003 E:\OTHERTEST\D_SM.ORDERS 
 

LIST SM.ORDERS 
   


Unable to open index map "g:\accounttest\I_SM.ORDERS/INDEX.MAP" for 
read/write,Un
able to open "SM.ORDERS" file.  
 

 
   




Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc

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[U2] Voc pointer not working

2005-07-10 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Hi all. I have a question and hopefully I'll give you all the info you need to 
answer.

Universe 9.4 SB+ 3.4.0 I don't know if SB+ comes into play on this.  NT

We make a copy of our live account every so often. When doing this we use NT to 
make the copy and then run it through a universe process so that Universe knows 
about the account. All works just fine, we have been doing this for years.

What I just am now doing is creating a VOC pointer on a different machine (our 
testing machine which happens to be w2k) and pointing over to Universe files in 
the copied account. The pointer works fine on some files and not so fine on 
other. It works fine on all files in the Live account, it is the copy of the 
account it doesn't work in.

The trigger here seems to be files that have I_ folders on them, Index Map?.

We are of the mind that when we copy the account over, some pointer is not 
being re-set in these files/index maps. That we are failing to run a routine 
when we first copy the account.

This voc pointer works fine on the original 'live' account and fine on files in 
the test account that don't have this I-folder. 

We checked permissions, sharing and all those goodies. Don't see any reason 
there for this. And again, it works on (apparently) all files without the 
"I-xx" and doesn't work on all files with one. 

What are we missing?

>CT VOC SM.ORDERS   

 SM.ORDERS  
0001 F  
0002 \\MACHINENAME\ACCOUNTTEST\SM.ORDERS
  
0003 E:\OTHERTEST\D_SM.ORDERS   
  
>LIST SM.ORDERS 
Unable to open index map "g:\accounttest\I_SM.ORDERS/INDEX.MAP" for 
read/write,Un
able to open "SM.ORDERS" file.  
>   


Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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