Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[RickG]

Ben Moore via wispa.org
3:17 PM (10 hours ago)

We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be available on
these early next year.

The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and
> DFS?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current
> performance with PTMP from Chuck's post.  Another should be posted shortly.
>
>
>
> There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H  wrote:
>
> Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.
>
> I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
> but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
> backwards compatibility.
>
> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> > implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> > features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> > compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> > variables).
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > > wrote:
> >
> > Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the
> > Backwards compatibility of the new units?
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *Steven Barnes*
> >
> > GM
> >
> > PCSWIN.com
> >
> > Howard LLC.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> > locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> > Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
> >
> > So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> > there other  changes as well? 
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> > [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> > added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> > can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> > PTMP networks in the wild ;)
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
> > mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
> >
> > ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
> > same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
> > what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
> > 
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Mike
> > Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
> > ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
> >
> > The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
> > things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
> > didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
> > any different.
> >
> > Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >   

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Rory Conaway]

I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS?

 

Rory

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current performance 
with PTMP from Chuck's post.  Another should be posted shortly.

 

There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.

 

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H  wrote:

Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.

I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.





Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
backwards compatibility.

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> variables).
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > wrote:
>
> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
> __ __
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
> __ __
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> __ __
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
> __ __
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > wrote:
>
> Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> there other  changes as well? 
>
> 
> 
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> __ __
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
> __ __
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
> mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
>
> ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
> same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
> what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] on behalf of Mike
> Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
> things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
> didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
> any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> *From: *"Ben Moore"  >
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works.  The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is
following.  I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next
1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  What he said...
>
> I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz
> also...
>
> --
> On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:
>
>  Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I
> recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge.
>
>  We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4
> for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap!
>
>  We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep.
> Are we expecting something soon?
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, "j...@spitwspots.com"
>wrote:
>
>
>  Not an m2 lolz
>
>  On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman
>   wrote:
>
> So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>
> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
> *Steven Barnes*
> GM
> PCSWIN.com
> Howard LLC.
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>  *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>  *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Blair Davis]

What he said...

I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz 
also...


--
On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:
Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I 
recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge.


We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 
for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap!


We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a 
peep. Are we expecting something soon?



On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, "j...@spitwspots.com" 
 wrote:



Not an m2 lolz

On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:


So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets,
correct?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:

11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will
allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will
not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you
deploy will still be better than 11n.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

That's what I've been assuming too...

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards
compatibility added to the AC series, or forward
compatibility added to the M series?



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of Mike
Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually
V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm
guessing...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com 






*From: *"Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak
to the Backwards compatibility of the new units?
*Steven Barnes*
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.
*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Ben
Moore
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one
is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if
the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on
my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket
AirPrism, or are there other  changes as well?


*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of
Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW
tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum
analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will
send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the
wild ;)
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat..

Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

[Mark Stephenson]

My son tells me that if he downloads the firmware straight from Ubiquiti 
via the pop up at the lower right instead of manually uploading the 
firmware to install it then he does not need to load the firmware 
multiple times to get 5.5.10 to work. Hopefully the is helpful.


Mark



-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: 12/8/2014 6:44:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

I'm thinking more likely, after about the 5th flash, stuff will start 
going away again... until eventually the radio will just be completely 
disabled. :P



From:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 5:09 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

Per Josh Reynolds's recommendation, I flashed 5.5.10 twice. That let me 
choose DFS channels. I flashed it a third time and it let me get 
5150.The first and last config files are identical. The one in the 
middle is just reverse alphabetical order from the others.



If I just keep flashing can I get 4.9 and all the other bands? Maybe it 
becomes a 10GigE radio?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 5:06:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

That makes no sense, how would multiple identical writes get different 
results?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 8, 2014 6:02 PM, "Mike Hammett"  
wrote:
UBNT: If at first first your firmware does not succeed, try, try, try, 
try, try, try, try again.



I had to flash 5.5.10 three times to get what I'm supposed to be 
getting. Well, that I'm aware of. If anything else is missing, I'll 
have to go again.  ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: "ubnt users" 
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 4:37:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

And you're on 5.5.10 after double-flashing, right?
josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: 
www.spitwspots.comOn 12/08/2014 01:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Nope, no DFS channels after setting US and picking a channel in 5.8.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 10:52:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

Thanks to Josh Reynolds:


XM.v5.5.6# cat /tmp/system.cfg | grep -i dfs
radio.1.dfs.status=enabled



So DFS is enabled. I noticed that the top of 5.8 is only around -80 
noise, so maybe I can get a link after all.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 10:25:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

That's what I'm thinking


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:
I wonder if there's some kind of a bug with entering the DFS code 
when it's in compliance mode.



From:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:19 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

On the lower versions mine does not have the checkbox. I assume that 
I already entered that DFS information long ago when I received it 
from UBNT




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: "Kees H" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 10:17:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems


You must have already DFS enabled in that rocket.  Mike is talking 
about an older rocket before DFS was approved on the rockets.
I ran into the same issue trying to use the 5240.  I upgraded 
directly to 5.5.10 and no DFS nor 5160-5240 was avalable.  I 
downgraded checked the uni box entered my codes and voila when I 
upgraded to 5.5.10 there was the 5160-5240.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current performance
with PTMP from Chuck's post.  Another should be posted shortly.

There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H  wrote:

> Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.
>
> I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
> but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
> backwards compatibility.
>
> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> > implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> > features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> > compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> > variables).
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > > wrote:
> >
> > Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> > Backwards compatibility of the new units?
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *Steven Barnes*
> >
> > GM
> >
> > PCSWIN.com
> >
> > Howard LLC.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> > locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> > Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
> >
> > So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> > there other  changes as well? 
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> > [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> > added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> > can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> > PTMP networks in the wild ;)
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
> > mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
> >
> > ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
> > same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
> > what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
> > 
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Mike
> > Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
> > ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
> >
> > The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
> > things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
> > didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
> > any different.
> >
> > Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> > <
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From: *"Ben Moore"  > >
> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  > >
> > *Sen

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Kees H]

Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.

I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.





Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
backwards compatibility.

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> variables).
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > wrote:
>
> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
> __ __
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
> __ __
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> __ __
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
> __ __
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > wrote:
>
> Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> there other  changes as well? 
>
> 
> 
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> __ __
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
> __ __
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
> mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
>
> ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
> same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
> what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] on behalf of Mike
> Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
> things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
> didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
> any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> *From: *"Ben Moore"  >
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  >
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today: 
>
> __ __
>
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
> __ __
>
> Also, all of the software updates:
>
> __ __
>
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/softw

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Reynolds]

Sometimes I win :(

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/09/2014 03:35 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

Are you sure??? ;-)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


HAH I WIN

j/k :P

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com  

On 12/09/2014 03:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

Yes.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H mailto:wi...@calbroadband.com>> wrote:

So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?

- Original Message -
*From:* Ben Moore 
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did
add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards
compatibility any too soon though.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






*From: *"Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax
products?

*Steven Barnes*

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.

*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of
*Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working
well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today?
It didn't seem like it.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Are you sure??? ;-)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>  HAH I WIN
>
> j/k :P
>
> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>
> On 12/09/2014 03:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
>
> Yes.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H  wrote:
>
>>  So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ben Moore 
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>  Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I
>>> wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>  Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>>
>>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Reynolds]

HAH I WIN

j/k :P

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/09/2014 03:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

Yes.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H > wrote:


So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?

- Original Message -
*From:* Ben Moore 
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add
PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too
soon though.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of Mike
Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






*From: *"Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?

*Steven Barnes*

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.

*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Mike
Hammett
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It
didn't seem like it.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H  wrote:

>  So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ben Moore 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>  I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I
>> wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>  Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>
>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Reynolds]

Yes

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/09/2014 03:29 PM, Kees H wrote:

So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?

- Original Message -
*From:* Ben Moore 
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add
PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too
soon though.


*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of Mike
Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





*From: *"Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?

*Steven Barnes*

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.

*From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't
seem like it.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate...

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

>  +1000
>
>
>
> Steve Barnes
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our
> customers with 5ghz only...
>
> AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start.
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Ac is only designed around 5ghz.
>
> What's it with you and 2ghz? :)
>
> On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>  The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?
>
>
>
> I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax
> APs (RM2 for example).
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>   Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I
> assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work
> fine.
>
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
>  11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>   That's what I've been assuming too...
>
> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the
> M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>   --
>
> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Kees H]

So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Moore 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs


  Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.  


  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't 
expect backwards compatibility any too soon though.




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs


No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com







From: "Steve Barnes" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs


Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?



Steven Barnes

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com








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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

So you're the one eating my 2.4 spectrum!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 9, 2014 7:04 PM, "Steve Barnes"  wrote:

>  +1000
>
>
>
> Steve Barnes
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our
> customers with 5ghz only...
>
> AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start.
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Ac is only designed around 5ghz.
>
> What's it with you and 2ghz? :)
>
> On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>  The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?
>
>
>
> I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax
> APs (RM2 for example).
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>   Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I
> assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work
> fine.
>
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
>  11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>   That's what I've been assuming too...
>
> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the
> M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>   --
>
> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look differe

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Steve Barnes]

+1000

Steve Barnes
PCSWIN.com

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our 
customers with 5ghz only...

AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Ac is only designed around 5ghz.

What's it with you and 2ghz? :)
On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?

I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs 
(RM2 for example).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume 
you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to 
transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC 
network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
That's what I've been assuming too...

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to 
the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

O

Re: [Ubnt_users] AirControl 2 & passwords

[Clay Stewart]

Heith, did you try Putty in to reboot them yourself I have found it to
work when HTTP does not let you log in for some OS or hardware reason.

If you get in, and have issues which you think is OS related, I sometimes
will click the factory reset in System tab, then log back in on (WAN
default (routers) 192.168.10.1) or (LAN CPE 192.168.1.20), reload OS (even
if same) and reprogram. If that fixes issue, then it was a corrupted OS
file or something, otherwise... hardware most likely.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM, heith  wrote:

> Since we have been running AC2 earlier this year, shortly after deployment
> we have had several radios that would not allow access do to a bad
> password. I cannot access them via web gui nor can AC2 interface access
> them. If I have a customer reboot the radio or router I can access. I have
> been dealing with it for about 6 months, but I have some gear that needs
> updating and it’s a PITA to have the call the customer for a reboot.
> Majority of our stuff has the credentials changed, but some stuff was left
> default on accident, and have experienced the issue on both scenarios.
>
>
>
> Is there a new default credential when this happens? Am I doing something
> wrong? If I dump AC2 will the issue go away. I never did use AC1, only
> started using AC2 for mass updates & configuration changes. I read thru the
> recent threads on AC2 & AC cloud, maybe I am expecting too much for the
> free software
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Heith
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our 
customers with 5ghz only...

AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ac is only designed around 5ghz.

What's it with you and 2ghz? :)

On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?

I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs 
(RM2 for example).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume 
you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to 
transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC 
network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
That's what I've been assuming too...

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to 
the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:24 PM,  wrote:

> Ac is only designed around 5ghz.
>
> What's it with you and 2ghz? :)
>
>
> On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?
>>
>> I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax
>> APs (RM2 for example).
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but
>>> I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work
>>> fine.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets,
>>> correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>>>
 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow
 you to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as
 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than
 11n.

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>
> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will
> be the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket
> I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
> ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
> don't make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Jason Bailey]

Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall 
Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. 
We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp 
and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! 
We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we 
expecting something soon? 

 On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, "j...@spitwspots.com" 
 wrote:
   

 Not an m2 lolz

On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:

11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to 
transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC 
network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

That's what I've been assuming too... 

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to 
the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



From: "Steve Barnes" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units? Steven BarnesGMPCSWIN.comHoward LLC. From: 
ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]On Behalf Of 
Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact 
that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 
9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?From:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-)  I think you guys will really like the 
new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots 
that can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP 
networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p From:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACsOh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

From:"Ben Moore" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACsThe 3 new products announced today: 
R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP onlyNBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeamPBE-5AC-620 - 
620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: 
http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum 
analysis (persistent)- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate 
assessment of channel conditions- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, 
RF Diagnostics, etc...)- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) 
will be announced shortly. Thanks,Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew 
Howard  wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.From:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACsFor those of you that have them...  are they 
working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It di

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[josh]

Ac is only designed around 5ghz.

What's it with you and 2ghz? :)

On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
>The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?
>
>I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax
>APs
>(RM2 for example).
>
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
>wrote:
>
>>  Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety...
>but I
>> assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should
>work
>> fine.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets,
>> correct?
>>
>>
>>  Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow
>you
>>> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as
>100%
>>> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than
>11n.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  That's what I've been assuming too...

 Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards
>compatibility
 added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M
>series?

  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6
>will be
 the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 
 
 

  --
  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
 *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
 Backwards compatibility of the new units?



 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.



 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
>locked
 (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard
>
 wrote:

   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
>Rocket I
 have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

 So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
>there
 other  changes as well?
   --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
 behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
 (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be
>done with
 that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the
>wild ;)



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
>
 wrote:

   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
 ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens
>when you
 don't make new stuff look different :p
   --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things,
>just
 the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all,
>just
 skimmed it because it didn't look any different.

 Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

Yep, it's only 5ghz. I haven't heard anything about new stuff in 2.4ghz.

I agree... there were definitely issues using the a/b/g stuff with Airmax APs.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?

I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs 
(RM2 for example).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume 
you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to 
transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC 
network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
That's what I've been assuming too...

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to 
the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, 5GHz only at this point...

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?
>
> I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax
> APs (RM2 for example).
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>>  Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I
>> assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work
>> fine.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets,
>> correct?
>>
>>
>>  Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
>>> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
>>> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  That's what I've been assuming too...

 Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
 added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?

  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will
 be the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 
 
 

  --
  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
 *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
 Backwards compatibility of the new units?



 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.



 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
 (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket
 I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

 So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
 other  changes as well?
   --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
 (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
 that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
 ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
 don't make new stuff look different :p
   --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
 the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
 skimmed it because it didn't look any different.

 Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intellig

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, that is plan...Nothing is imminent of course (going back to the
comment about not crippling performance to get there), but all indications
are that this is a go.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
>> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
>> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
>> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>>>
>>> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
>>> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
>>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>>
>>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>>> other  changes as well?
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
>>> ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
>>> don't make new stuff look different :p
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>>
>>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>>
>>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some high

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[josh]

Not an m2 lolz

On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
>So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets,
>correct?
>
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
>> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow
>you
>> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as
>100%
>> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than
>11n.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>wrote:
>>
>>>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>>>
>>> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards
>compatibility
>>> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M
>series?
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will
>be
>>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
>locked
>>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
>Rocket I
>>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>>
>>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
>there
>>> other  changes as well?
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done
>with
>>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the
>wild ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
>ones.
>>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
>don't
>>> make new stuff look different :p
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things,
>just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all,
>just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>>
>>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>>
>>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some highlights:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>>
>>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate
>ass

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

The ac stuff is 5 GHz only?

I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs
(RM2 for example).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I
> assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work
> fine.
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets,
> correct?
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
>> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
>> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
>> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>>>
>>> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
>>> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
>>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>>
>>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>>> other  changes as well?
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
>>> ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
>>> don't make new stuff look different :p
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume 
you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to 
transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC 
network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
That's what I've been assuming too...

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to 
the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Steve Barnes" mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Matt Hoppes]

Mind blown. 💥

> On Dec 9, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
> 
> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to 
> transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC 
> network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>> That's what I've been assuming too... 
>> 
>> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added 
>> to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? 
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
>> of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
>> M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Steve Barnes" 
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
>> compatibility of the new units?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steven Barnes
>> 
>> GM
>> 
>> PCSWIN.com
>> 
>> Howard LLC.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Ben Moore
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
>> lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have 
>> that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>> 
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
>> changes as well?
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
>> of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>> 
>> 
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added 
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with 
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>> 
>> ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I 
>> guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make 
>> new stuff look different :p
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
>> of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>> 
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
>> same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed 
>> it because it didn't look any different.
>> 
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Ben Moore" 
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>> 
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>> 
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Also, all of the software updates:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Some highlights:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>> 
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
>> channel conditions
>> 
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>> 
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>> 
>>  We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with 
>> them.
>> 
>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, 
>> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
>> of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>> 
>> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>> 
>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Compu

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[josh]

Rapid release of airmax support will allow us to replace airmax APs with 
airmax-ac ptmp and will spur much faster adoption of 802.11ac cpes.

On December 9, 2014 1:06:05 PM AKST, Ben Moore  wrote:
>11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow
>you to
>transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
>AC
>network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>
>On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>wrote:
>
>>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>>
>> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
>> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M
>series?
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will
>be
>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
>locked
>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket
>I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done
>with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the
>wild ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
>ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
>don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things,
>just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all,
>just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>
>>
>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>
>>
>> Some highlights:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment
>of
>> channel conditions
>>
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics,
>etc...)
>>
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>
>>
>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:1

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:

> 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you
> to transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100%
> AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>>
>> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
>> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>
>>
>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>
>>
>> Some highlights:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>>
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>
>>
>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to
transition a tower.  Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC
network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  That's what I've been assuming too...
>
> Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility
> added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>
> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today:
>
>
>
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
>
>
> Also, all of the software updates:
>
>
>
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>
>
>
> Some highlights:
>
>
>
> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
> channel conditions
>
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>
>
>
> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
> with them.
>
> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *S

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

That's what I've been assuming too...

Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to 
the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]


From: "Steve Barnes" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png][http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]

From: "Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[josh]

5.6

On December 9, 2014 12:35:05 PM AKST, Ty Featherling  
wrote:
>I remember there being a 6.x beta line for a while. Or maybe I'm
>thinking
>of the 5.6 versions.
>
>-Ty
>On Dec 9, 2014 2:45 PM, "Mike Hammett" 
>wrote:
>
>> They have internal betas?  :-p
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Internal beta maybe?  Just speculating.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, "Mike Hammett" 
>wrote:
>>
>>> I never saw any v6 to precede v7.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett" 
>wrote:
>>>
 I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will
>be
 the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 
 
 

 --
 *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
 *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
 Backwards compatibility of the new units?



 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.



 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
>locked
 (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard
>
 wrote:

   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
>Rocket I
 have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

 So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
>there
 other  changes as well?
   --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
 behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
 (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be
>done with
 that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the
>wild ;)



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
>
 wrote:

   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
 ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens
>when you
 don't make new stuff look different :p
   --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things,
>just
 the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all,
>just
 skimmed it because it didn't look any different.

 Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Seth Mattinen]

On 12/9/14, 11:32, Ty Featherling wrote:
> Oh there is a word.. and as usual the word is 'Soon'.
>


I think "soon" is the new "it's on the boat".

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ty Featherling]

I remember there being a 6.x beta line for a while. Or maybe I'm thinking
of the 5.6 versions.

-Ty
On Dec 9, 2014 2:45 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> They have internal betas?  :-p
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Internal beta maybe?  Just speculating.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> I never saw any v6 to precede v7.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
>>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>>
>>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>>> other  changes as well?
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
>>> ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
>>> don't make new stuff look different :p
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Chris Ruschmann]

J







*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:17 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be available on
these early next year.



The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will.



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Chris Ruschmann  wrote:



So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early
announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that?



I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt
about it.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

Hey I thought I was the mean one?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 9, 2014 3:45 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> They have internal betas?  :-p
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Internal beta maybe?  Just speculating.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> I never saw any v6 to precede v7.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be
>>> the M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>>
>>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>>> other  changes as well?
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
>>> ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
>>> don't make new stuff look different :p
>>>   --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tues

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

They have internal betas? :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Internal beta maybe? Just speculating. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I never saw any v6 to precede v7. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Steve Barnes" < st...@pcswin.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 



Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units? 

Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP). 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p 

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other 
changes as well? 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM 



To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 





;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 




Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 

The 3 new products announced today: 



R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 

NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 

PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 



Also, all of the software updates: 



http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 



- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 

- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 

- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 

- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 



The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 



Thanks, 

Ben 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 




For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Sol

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

Internal beta maybe?  Just speculating.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I never saw any v6 to precede v7.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the
>> M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>
>>
>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>
>>
>> Some highlights:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>>
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>
>>
>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>We have a couple of links up... I ha

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

I never saw any v6 to precede v7. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Steve Barnes" < st...@pcswin.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 



Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units? 

Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP). 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p 

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other 
changes as well? 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM 



To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 





;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 




Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 

The 3 new products announced today: 



R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 

NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 

PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 



Also, all of the software updates: 



http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 



- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 

- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 

- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 

- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 



The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 



Thanks, 

Ben 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 




For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 



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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta.

Josh Luthman
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On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the
> M-series connection to the AC.   I'm guessing...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>
> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today:
>
>
>
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
>
>
> Also, all of the software updates:
>
>
>
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>
>
>
> Some highlights:
>
>
>
> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
> channel conditions
>
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>
>
>
> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
> with them.
>
> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
> _

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the 
M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Steve Barnes"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 



Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units? 

Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP). 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p 

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other 
changes as well? 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM 



To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 





;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 




Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 

The 3 new products announced today: 



R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 

NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 

PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 



Also, all of the software updates: 



http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 



- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 

- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 

- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 

- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 



The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 



Thanks, 

Ben 



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 




For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Thanks Matt.  Yeah, we will make sure nothing is crippled in the process ;-)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
> but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
> backwards compatibility.
>
> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> > implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> > features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> > compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> > variables).
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > > wrote:
> >
> > Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> > Backwards compatibility of the new units?
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *Steven Barnes*
> >
> > GM
> >
> > PCSWIN.com
> >
> > Howard LLC.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> > locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> > Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
> >
> > So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> > there other  changes as well? 
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> > [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> > added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> > can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> > PTMP networks in the wild ;)
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
> > mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
> >
> > ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
> > same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
> > what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
> > 
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Mike
> > Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
> > ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
> >
> > The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
> > things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
> > didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
> > any different.
> >
> > Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > <
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From: *"Ben Moore"  > >
> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  > >
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > The 3 new products announced today: 
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Chuck Hogg]

Hello all:

We have been testing the UBNT AC PtMP Product line for the last 3 months.
Since our testing has started, we have gone through multiple iterations of
testing and firmware.  Stability overall has been good, fixes to issues
were implemented quickly.  As with any beta product testing, we were
putting it through it's paces.

Our current environment is:
190' Water Tower overlooking suburban subdivision of 250 homes, most
clients <1 mile.  2.4GHz Noise Floor is -40.  5GHz Noise Floor is -74.  The
majority of the clients are currently connected at -59 or better.

We decided to use this opportunity as a way to compete head-to-head with TW
Cable (up to 100Mb) and UVerse DSL (up to 18Mb).  We sold it as Free
Install, Free for at least 90 days, and no contract.  Even at that, it has
been a hard sell.  However, not a single client has complained or quit.
Everyone has replied that things have been great and that the speeds they
are receiving at peak times are still 50Mbit+ (something they never saw
with Cable or DSL).  We currently have ~15 people connected at this time.

We are using the NanoBeam AC units as described in the PtP release made
today as the CPE's.  20MHz channel in the regular 5.8GHz band. We are
running AirOS 7.  The nice persistent RF constellations and noise
calculations are nice to have.  Latency has been great, sub 2ms the
majority of the time to our core (this site is 1 hop off our main tower at
our office)

We are using a Rocket5 AC Lite (Office Tower) to a UBNT PowerBeam 5 AC
(Water Tank) to feed the site.

Currently to the client, we get 150x100Mbit UDP and about 90x50Mbit TCP (We
have seen 120's, this might be a congestion issue going on right now, or
because we are using BTest from MikroTik to test with and maxing out the
CPU)

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> Agreed.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:22:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
> but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
> backwards compatibility.
>
> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> > implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> > features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> > compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> > variables).
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > > wrote:
> >
> > Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> > Backwards compatibility of the new units?
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *Steven Barnes*
> >
> > GM
> >
> > PCSWIN.com
> >
> > Howard LLC.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> > locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> > Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
> >
> > So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> > there other  changes as well? 
> >
> >
> 
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> > [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> > added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> > can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> > PTMP networks in the wild ;)
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Oh...and heard back that estimate is ~3 months for release (beta sooner).

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:

> You bet!
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>>  Thank you kindly for replying.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:21 PM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
>> implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
>> features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
>> compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
>> variables).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
>> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
>> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>
>>
>> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>
>>
>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>
>>
>> Some highlights:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>>
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>
>>
>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>> with them.
>>
>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
>> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>
>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>> it.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Agreed. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Matt Hoppes"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:22:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 

Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... 
but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no 
backwards compatibility. 

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: 
> Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being 
> implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of 
> features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards 
> compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more 
> variables). 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > wrote: 
> 
> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the 
> Backwards compatibility of the new units? 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> *Steven Barnes* 
> 
> GM 
> 
> PCSWIN.com 
> 
> Howard LLC. 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
>  
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM 
> 
> 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP 
> locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > wrote: 
> 
> Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only 
> Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p 
> 
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are 
> there other changes as well?  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
>  
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> ] on behalf of Ben Moore 
> [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM 
> 
> 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being 
> added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that 
> can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on 
> PTMP networks in the wild ;) 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote: 
> 
> ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the 
> same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is 
> what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
>  
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> ] on behalf of Mike 
> Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net 
> ] 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 
> 
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 
> 
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new 
> things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I 
> didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look 
> any different. 
> 
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From: *"Ben Moore"  > 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  > 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 
> 
> The 3 new products announced today:  
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 
> 
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 
> 
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> Also, all of the software updates: 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> Some highlights: 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 
> 
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate 
> assessment of channel conditions 
> 
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF 
> Diagnostics, etc...) 
> 
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ben 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> On

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

You bet!

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

>  Thank you kindly for replying.
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:21 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> variables).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>
> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today:
>
>
>
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
>
>
> Also, all of the software updates:
>
>
>
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>
>
>
> Some highlights:
>
>
>
> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
> channel conditions
>
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>
>
>
> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
> with them.
>
> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
> _

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Matt Hoppes]

Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
backwards compatibility.

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
> Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
> implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
> features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
> compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
> variables).
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  > wrote:
> 
> Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
> 
> __ __
> 
> *Steven Barnes*
> 
> GM
> 
> PCSWIN.com
> 
> Howard LLC.
> 
> __ __
> 
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
> 
> 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> 
> __ __
> 
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
> locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
> 
> __ __
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
> Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
> 
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
> there other  changes as well? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] on behalf of Ben Moore
> [ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
> 
> 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> 
> __ __
> 
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
> added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
> can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
> PTMP networks in the wild ;)
> 
> __ __
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
> mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
> 
> ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
> same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
> what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] on behalf of Mike
> Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> 
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
> 
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
> things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
> didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
> any different.
> 
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From: *"Ben Moore"  >
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  >
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
> 
> The 3 new products announced today: 
> 
> __ __
> 
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
> 
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
> 
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
> 
> __ __
> 
> Also, all of the software updates:
> 
> __ __
> 
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
> 
> __ __
> 
> Some highlights:___

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Steve Barnes]

Thank you kindly for replying.

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being 
implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of 
features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility 
(making sure these are solid first before adding more variables).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ic

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
variables).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

>  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
> Backwards compatibility of the new units?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked
> (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>   ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>
> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today:
>
>
>
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
>
>
> Also, all of the software updates:
>
>
>
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>
>
>
> Some highlights:
>
>
>
> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
> channel conditions
>
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>
>
>
> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
> with them.
>
> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>   --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
>
>
> -
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> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Please email supp...@ubnt.com on this...

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Ty Featherling 
wrote:

> I hope so. I just checked and all 8 I have on the shelf are older than
> that!
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Paul McNary  wrote:
>
>>  Will they RMA the older version?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>>  Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before
>> the MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on
>> 1431G, anyway.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due
>> to hardware changes.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>  So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them
>> deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might
>> not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just
>> software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series
>> or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>>
>>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>>> other  changes as well?
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
 ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you
 don't make new stuff look different :p
  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
 the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
 skimmed it because it didn't look any different.

 Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 
 
 

  --
  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
 *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 The 3 new products announced today:

  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
 NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
 PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

  Also, all of the software updates:

  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

  Some highlights:

  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
 - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment
 of channel conditions
 - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
 - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

  Thanks,
 Ben

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
> with them.
>
> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
> before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem
> like it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be available on
these early next year.

The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Chris Ruschmann  wrote:

>
>
> So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early
> announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that?
>
>
>
> I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt
> about it.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Steve Barnes]

Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards 
compatibility of the new units?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the 
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

yes, you can send MAC ID's to supp...@ubnt.com

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Adair Winter 
wrote:

> So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them
> deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might
> not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just
> software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series
> or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see?
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>>> make new stuff look different :p
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>>
>>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>>
>>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>>
>>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>>
>>>  Some highlights:
>>>
>>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>>> channel conditions
>>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>>
>>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
 with them.

 I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
 before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.

  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

 Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
 it.



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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Part #'s and pricing should be up later today/tomorrow.  Shipping in Dec
with initial availability in late December/early January.

The R5AC-PTMP with airPrism is right behind...

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> When are the 3 new devices shipping or available at our distributors? None
> of the new product numbers have shown up yet.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>>> make new stuff look different :p
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>>
>>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>>
>>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>>
>>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>>
>>>  Some highlights:
>>>
>>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>>> channel conditions
>>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>>
>>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
 with them.

 I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
 before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.

  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

 Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
 it.



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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 
 
 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

I have no idea, I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask... it's not worth it to me to 
climb towers and mess with working links, so I didn't check.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Paul McNary [pmcn...@cameron.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:06 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Will they RMA the older version?


On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the MAC), 
I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G, anyway.

If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due to 
hardware changes.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Adair Winter 
[ada...@amarillowireless.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due 
to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at 
all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify 
this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to 
fire them up and see?

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the
lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>  Some highlights:
>>
>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
>>> before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>>
>>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ty Featherling]

I hope so. I just checked and all 8 I have on the shelf are older than that!

-Ty

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Paul McNary  wrote:

>  Will they RMA the older version?
>
>
>
> On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
>  Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the
> MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G,
> anyway.
>
> If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due
> to hardware changes.
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them
> deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might
> not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just
> software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series
> or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see?
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
>> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>>
>> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
>> other  changes as well?
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
>> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
>> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>>> make new stuff look different :p
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>>
>>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>>
>>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>>
>>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>>
>>>  Some highlights:
>>>
>>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>>> channel conditions
>>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>>
>>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
 with them.

 I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
 before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.

  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

 Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
 it.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 
 
 



 ___

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes ;-)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Is PTMP available? :P
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 2:23 PM, "Ben Moore"  wrote:
>
>> Yes...PTMP is available.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>>
>>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>>
>>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>>
>>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>>
>>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>>
>>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>>
>>> Some highlights:
>>>
>>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>>> channel conditions
>>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>>
>>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
 with them.

 I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
 before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.

  --
 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

   For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

 Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
 it.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  
 
 
 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Paul McNary]

Will they RMA the older version?


On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before 
the MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work 
on 1431G, anyway.


If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview 
due to hardware changes.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them 
deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets 
might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just 
software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular 
series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see?


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote:


Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
there other  changes as well?

*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of Ben Moore
[ben.mo...@ubnt.com ]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can
be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP
networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what
happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p

*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of Mike
Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any
different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





*From: *"Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate
assessment of channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics,
etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:

 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any
problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't
seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of Mik

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Chris Ruschmann]

So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early
announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that?



I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt
about it.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the MAC), 
I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G, anyway.

If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due to 
hardware changes.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due 
to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at 
all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify 
this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to 
fire them up and see?

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Could send the MACs to support? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Adair Winter"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:57:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due 
to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at 
all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify 
this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to 
fire them up and see? 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p 

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other 
changes as well? 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM 


To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


The 3 new products announced today: 


R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 


Also, all of the software updates: 


http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 


- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 


The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 


Thanks, 
Ben 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Adair Winter]

So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed
due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not
support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??...
How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something?
Or do I just need to fire them up and see?

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>  Some highlights:
>>
>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
>>> before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>>
>>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Darin Steffl]

When are the 3 new devices shipping or available at our distributors? None
of the new product numbers have shown up yet.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I
> have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
>
> So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there
> other  changes as well?
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>  Some highlights:
>>
>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
>>> before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>>
>>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that 
it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other  
changes as well?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that).  Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



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From: "Ben Moore" mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Jerry Richardson (airCloud)]

We have one AC Lite link up using their 2’ dishes.  Running 100Mbps across it – 
capacity says 150Mbps.

 

12mi from 120’ ASL to 3450’ ASL at 5740MHz

 

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Josh Luthman]

Is PTMP available? :P

Josh Luthman
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On Dec 9, 2014 2:23 PM, "Ben Moore"  wrote:

> Yes...PTMP is available.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>> Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>> Some highlights:
>>
>> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
>>> before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>   For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>>
>>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ty Featherling]

Oh there is a word.. and as usual the word is 'Soon'.

-Ty

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

>  Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
>
>
> -
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Ugh, no thanks. ;-) 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ben Moore"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:29:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Worse...real internet customers ;) 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Wild, like bears and stuff? 




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From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:27:18 PM 


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


The 3 new products announced today: 


R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 


Also, all of the software updates: 


http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 


- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 


The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 


Thanks, 
Ben 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




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of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Worse...real internet customers ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> Wild, like bears and stuff?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:27:18 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
> (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
> that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones.
>> I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
>> make new stuff look different :p
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>>
>> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
>> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
>> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>>
>> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>> The 3 new products announced today:
>>
>>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
>> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
>> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>>
>>  Also, all of the software updates:
>>
>>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>>
>>  Some highlights:
>>
>>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
>> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
>> channel conditions
>> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
>> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>>
>>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it
>>> before, but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>>
>>>For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>>
>>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Wild, like bears and stuff? 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ben Moore"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:27:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially 
the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send 
out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 




- 
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From: "Ben Moore" < ben.mo...@ubnt.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


The 3 new products announced today: 


R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 


Also, all of the software updates: 


http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 


- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 


The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 


Thanks, 
Ben 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added
(especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with
that).  Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I
> guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't
> make new stuff look different :p
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
>  *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today:
>
>  R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
>  Also, all of the software updates:
>
>  http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>
>  Some highlights:
>
>  - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
> channel conditions
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>
>  The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>
>  Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>> with them.
>>
>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
>> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>
>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess 
I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new 
stuff look different :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different.

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



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From: "Ben Moore" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
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of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Have the new products removed the need for external shielding? 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ben Moore"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


The 3 new products announced today: 


R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 


Also, all of the software updates: 


http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 


- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 


The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 


Thanks, 
Ben 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Thanks, Ben! (Well, and all of the others testing, coding, etc.) 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ben Moore"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:23:04 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't 
expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. 




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From: "Steve Barnes" < st...@pcswin.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 



Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? 


Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 



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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM 
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Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes...PTMP is available.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
>
> The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just
> the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
> skimmed it because it didn't look any different.
>
> Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Ben Moore" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
> The 3 new products announced today:
>
> R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
> NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
> PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam
>
> Also, all of the software updates:
>
> http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/
>
> Some highlights:
>
> - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
> - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
> channel conditions
> - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
> - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE
>
> The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems
>> with them.
>>
>> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
>> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>>
>>   For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>
>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I
> wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though.
>
> --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
>  *From: *"Steve Barnes" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>  Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?
>
>
>
> *Steven Barnes*
>
> GM
>
> PCSWIN.com
>
> Howard LLC.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
>
> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
>
>
> -
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. 

The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the 
same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it 
because it didn't look any different. 

Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ben Moore"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


The 3 new products announced today: 


R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only 
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam 
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam 


Also, all of the software updates: 


http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ 



Some highlights: 


- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) 
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of 
channel conditions 
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) 
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE 


The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. 


Thanks, 
Ben 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. 

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new. 




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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM 
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Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 






For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't 
expect backwards compatibility any too soon though.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.



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From: "Steve Barnes" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Elton Wilson]

I have 3 links. 2 are RocketDishes and 1 is Nanobeams. I only had one issue
where one side of my link started rebooting every 5 minutes out of nowhere.
It had been running without issue for a month before that. I upgraded the
firmware and it stopped rebooting. I just got 3 more Rockets and 2 more
nanobeams last week, so I'll be upgraded some more links that are at
capacity.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> Their newsletter was all hyping their AC products, which were announce 14
> months ago and we've only seen one or two actually make it into the wild.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Ty Featherling" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:14:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>
> I have 8 on a shelf that I haven't even booted yet. I was waiting based on
> some bad feedback early on. What did they announce today?
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>>
>> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ben Moore]

The 3 new products announced today:

R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only
NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam
PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

Also, all of the software updates:

http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

Some highlights:

- Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
- CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of
channel conditions
- New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...)
- PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE

The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>   We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with
> them.
>
> I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before,
> but otherwise, no, nothing new.
>
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
>
>   For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Steve Barnes"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 



Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? 


Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 



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Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Steve Barnes]

Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

Their newsletter was all hyping their AC products, which were announce 14 
months ago and we've only seen one or two actually make it into the wild. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ty Featherling"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:14:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs 


I have 8 on a shelf that I haven't even booted yet. I was waiting based on some 
bad feedback early on. What did they announce today? 


-Ty 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Ty Featherling]

I have 8 on a shelf that I haven't even booted yet. I was waiting based on
some bad feedback early on. What did they announce today?

-Ty

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Hammett 
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> For those of you that have them...  are they working well?
>
> Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mathew Howard]

 We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them.

I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but 
otherwise, no, nothing new.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
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Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



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[Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Mike Hammett]

For those of you that have them... are they working well? 

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mike Hammett]

Yeah, I believe it was a pair of Trango radios doing like 5 meg or something 
like that. People do 40 mile links all of the time. Well, not all of the time, 
but it's common enough... 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:53:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Wow! I remember 40 but not 140!!! 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
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Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:48 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Yes. 




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From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:47:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


In Idaho? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




140* 

Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those out. 
:-p 




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From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles. 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our shots 
are 6-14 miles. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > wrote: 



I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann < ch...@scsalaska.net > wrote: 



Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp 
products. 
On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




So would bigger dishes or connectors. ;-) 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote: 





Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on? 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mike Hammett]

Yes. 




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From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:47:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


In Idaho? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




140* 

Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those out. 
:-p 




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From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles. 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our shots 
are 6-14 miles. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > wrote: 



I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann < ch...@scsalaska.net > wrote: 



Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp 
products. 
On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




So would bigger dishes or connectors. ;-) 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them. 


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Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on? 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Adair Winter]

OK.. I'm not really sure 4', 6' &  8'+ dishes are in many peoples budget.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> Receive gain.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:36:23 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
> in DFS? 30dBm is 30dBm.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our
>> shots are 6-14 miles.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on
 +6dB more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense
 to me to put PtP's there.

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
 wrote:

> Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp
> products.
> On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
> wrote:
>
>> So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mathew Howard]

I think you would need kind of large dishes to do that in DFS about 20 
footers might do :p

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:41 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

140*

Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those out. 
 :-p



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From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5


Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles.



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From: "Adair Winter" 
mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our shots 
are 6-14 miles.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" 
mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote:
I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:

Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp products.

On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)



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From: "Adair Winter" 
mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mike Hammett]

You'd still run the same dish for Tx and Rx, just set the Tx power down. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Adair Winter"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:50:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Here is an 8' dish 
http://www.radiowaves.com/en/product/hp8-5-2 



Bet it costs more $3-4k? and at 40dB gain, you'd have to run -10 tx on the 
radio.. 
or use two antennas. one for TX and one for RX. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Mathew Howard < mat...@litewire.net > wrote: 





I think you would need kind of large dishes to do that in DFS about 20 
footers might do :p 



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:41 AM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 






140* 

Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those out. 
:-p 




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From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles. 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our shots 
are 6-14 miles. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > wrote: 



I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann < ch...@scsalaska.net > wrote: 



Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp 
products. 
On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




So would bigger dishes or connectors. ;-) 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote: 





Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on? 

Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Josh Luthman]

Wow!  I remember 40 but not 140!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 9, 2014 11:48 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Yes.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:47:06 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
> In Idaho?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 11:41 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> 140*
>>
>> Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put
>> those out.  :-p
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>>
>>> Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our
>>> shots are 6-14 miles.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" 
 wrote:

> I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's
> on +6dB more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more
> sense to me to put PtP's there.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my
>> ptmp products.
>> On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>>
>>> Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?



 *Steven Barnes*

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 Howard LLC.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Adair Winter]

Here is an 8' dish
http://www.radiowaves.com/en/product/hp8-5-2

Bet it costs more $3-4k? and at 40dB gain, you'd have to run -10 tx on the
radio..
or use two antennas. one for TX and one for RX.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

>  I think you would need kind of large dishes to do that in DFS about
> 20 footers might do :p
>  --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:41 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
>   140*
>
> Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those
> out.  :-p
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
>  *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
> Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>>  Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our
>> shots are 6-14 miles.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>   On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on
 +6dB more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense
 to me to put PtP's there.

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
 wrote:

> Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp
> products.
> On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
> wrote:
>
>>  So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
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>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mike Hammett]

I think 3' dishes will get you around 10 miles full modulation. But yeah, even 
the biggest Andrews ones I could find at around 12 - 15' area (I forget) still 
would only go 20 miles (maybe not even) at 30 dB EIRP. 

That's all IIRC, though, I'm sure the point made it across. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Adair Winter"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:47:05 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


OK.. I'm not really sure 4', 6' & 8'+ dishes are in many peoples budget. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Receive gain. 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:36:23 AM 


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


in DFS? 30dBm is 30dBm. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles. 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM 


Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our shots 
are 6-14 miles. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > wrote: 



I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann < ch...@scsalaska.net > wrote: 



Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp 
products. 
On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




So would bigger dishes or connectors. ;-) 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote: 





Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on? 

Steven Barnes 
GM 
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Howard LLC. 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Josh Luthman]

In Idaho?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 9, 2014 11:41 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> 140*
>
> Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those
> out.  :-p
>
>
>
> -
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>
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> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
> Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our
>> shots are 6-14 miles.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on
 +6dB more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense
 to me to put PtP's there.

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
 wrote:

> Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp
> products.
> On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
> wrote:
>
>> So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>>
>> Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mike Hammett]

140* 

Not in DFS, though, I assume. Not sure DFS was available when he put those out. 
:-p 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:38:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles. 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our shots 
are 6-14 miles. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > wrote: 



I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann < ch...@scsalaska.net > wrote: 



Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp 
products. 
On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




So would bigger dishes or connectors. ;-) 




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From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 


Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them. 


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote: 





Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on? 

Steven Barnes 
GM 
PCSWIN.com 
Howard LLC. 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Mathew Howard]

Except that nothing is actually certified for the full 53dBm in 5.1 because of 
the OOBE rules... it makes more sense to me to put PtMP in 5.1 and free up 5.8 
for PtP, if you need the higher power.

Actually, I just use whichever band makes the most sense in any given 
situation... sometimes there's a good reason to use one over the other, whether 
it's PtP or PtMP.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:21 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on +6dB 
more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense to me to 
put PtP's there.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:

Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp products.

On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)



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To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

[Josh Luthman]

Travis did 40 mile shots between mountains.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 9, 2014 11:32 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Bigger dishes, though even the biggest dishes top out at 15 - 20 miles.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:30:56 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
> Of course. DFS is worthless for PtP on over about 4-6 miles. Most of our
> shots are 6-14 miles.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Ptp doesn't need the power unless you're doing super far shots.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 9, 2014 11:21 AM, "Adair Winter" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I keep seeing people say this. but it doesn't make sense to me. it's on
>>> +6dB more Tx power than DFS when using PTMP. PtP is 56dBm? makes more sense
>>> to me to put PtP's there.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Chris Ruschmann 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp
 products.
 On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
 wrote:

> So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Adair Winter" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:52:19 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5
>
> Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>>  Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steven Barnes*
>>
>> GM
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
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