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And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:31 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. _ From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. _ From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? _ From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL _ From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So
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Use a channel size appropriate for the environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:42:18 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:31 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [ j...@spitwspots.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks
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I thought AC chipsets were 5ghz only... is that not that case? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:49 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Use a channel size appropriate for the environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:42:18 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:31 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images
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A. 1 802.11ac only specifies operation in the 5 GHz band. Operation in the 2.4 GHz band is specified by 802.11n. B. 1 2 3 With 802.11n, 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band can be achieved by using four spatial streams at 150 Mbit/s each. As of September 2014, commercially available devices that achieve 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band use 3 spatial streams at 200 Mbit/s each. [ 8 ] [ 9 ] This requires the use of 256-QAM modulation, which is not compliant with 802.11n and can be considered a proprietary extension. [ 9 ] - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:19:10 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Maybe during initial production, but the ac protocol covers the 2.4 band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I thought AC chipsets were 5ghz only... is that not that case? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:49 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Use a channel size appropriate for the environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:42:18 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:31 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: blockquote +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [ j...@spitwspots.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing
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So basically, the AC standard doesn't support anything beyond N in 2.4ghz, but there are chipsets out there that added the useful stuff anyway... that makes sense. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:34 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs A.1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#ref_24GHz11n1 802.11ac only specifies operation in the 5 GHz band. Operation in the 2.4 GHz band is specified by 802.11n. B.1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#ref_24GHz256QAM1 2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#ref_24GHz256QAM2 3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#ref_24GHz256QAM3 With 802.11n, 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band can be achieved by using four spatial streams at 150 Mbit/s each. As of September 2014, commercially available devices that achieve 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band use 3 spatial streams at 200 Mbit/s each.[8]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#cite_note-ac2350-8[9]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#cite_note-ac1900-9 This requires the use of 256-QAM modulation, which is not compliant with 802.11n and can be considered a proprietary extension.[9]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#cite_note-ac1900-9 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:19:10 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Maybe during initial production, but the ac protocol covers the 2.4 band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: I thought AC chipsets were 5ghz only... is that not that case? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:49 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Use a channel size appropriate for the environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.orgmailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:42:18 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:31 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9
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Why isn't anybody petitioning IEEE for smaller channel sizes as the big ones are generally not needed. A 10 MHz channel of 2x2 AC would provide ~100 megabits of usable throughput. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:43:25 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So basically, the AC standard doesn't support anything beyond N in 2.4ghz, but there are chipsets out there that added the useful stuff anyway... that makes sense. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:34 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs A. 1 802.11ac only specifies operation in the 5 GHz band. Operation in the 2.4 GHz band is specified by 802.11n. B. 1 2 3 With 802.11n, 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band can be achieved by using four spatial streams at 150 Mbit/s each. As of September 2014, commercially available devices that achieve 600 Mbit/s in the 2.4 GHz band use 3 spatial streams at 200 Mbit/s each. [ 8 ] [ 9 ] This requires the use of 256-QAM modulation, which is not compliant with 802.11n and can be considered a proprietary extension. [ 9 ] - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:19:10 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Maybe during initial production, but the ac protocol covers the 2.4 band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I thought AC chipsets were 5ghz only... is that not that case? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:49 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Use a channel size appropriate for the environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:42:18 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs And please tell me how 2.4 AC can work in the limited spectrum without wiping out/degrading things for other users. Or do we just not care about others any more? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:31 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: blockquote +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [ j...@spitwspots.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote 11n CPE's will have ability to work
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Still not seeing pricing for R5AC-PTP in dollars (as opposed to Euros a or zlotys). Maybe you’re not saving any for the US market Jeremy Grip North Branch Networks,LLC From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL Image removed by sender. https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb Image removed by sender. https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions Image removed by sender. https://twitter.com/ICSIL Image removed by sender. _ From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? _ From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL Image removed by sender. https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb Image removed by sender. https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions Image removed by sender. https://twitter.com/ICSIL Image removed by sender. _ From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group
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I also believe that airPrism doesn't do anything about co-channel either, only adjacent channel. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:06:42 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I don't think cavity filters prevent co-channel interference. Adjac e nt channel interference, yes . Co-channel interference is interference on the channel you are trying to use. Some body tell me if I'm off my rocker. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 07:16 PM, Blair Davis wrote: AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct conversion Atheros chipsets. I don't see a major use for it in clients, but for an AP, it could be worth quite a bit to me. I'm currently using cavity filters on my multi-AP towers to prevent co-channel interference in 2.4GHz. This, of course, destroys my frequency agility. Just for the fun of it, I went over and played with some old Intersil cards I still have around. I can run 3 AP's on 1,6 and 11 using those old cards and get full speed thru them all in the same room... That just doesn't work with the newer cards... I really hope this works the way we need it to... To Ben: I'd be interested in testing the 2.4GHz gear in a fairly tough environment here if you have need... -- On 12/10/2014 10:06 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote Well, these have the AirPrism chip. I don't remember the other having it.. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: blockquote Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure
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Disagree Blair, it IS important for CPEs, especially in 2.4Ghz to have better interference controls. We are have issues where subscribers have multiple 2.4Ghz devices in broadcast mode. The issue is... you shoot home in 2.4Ghz (10-20 CW), you have a router in 2.4Ghz (20 CW), then maybe one or two more in large home... then the teen turns his IPhone... Another issue is our CPE is on fixed channels, for channel planning, but if it is a customer that turns everything on and off, and router comes up first, it grabs a nearby channel to incoming CPE. Our fixed channels are not always 1,6,12... because of multiple towers in a region. So the CPE may be on like 2432, because that is the only thing available at tower... and that increases chances of interference at a home with multiple broadcast units. I would think that Prism will be great for these common issues... at the CPE. Shoot, for routers! On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct conversion Atheros chipsets. I don't see a major use for it in clients, but for an AP, it could be worth quite a bit to me. I'm currently using cavity filters on my multi-AP towers to prevent co-channel interference in 2.4GHz. This, of course, destroys my frequency agility. Just for the fun of it, I went over and played with some old Intersil cards I still have around. I can run 3 AP's on 1,6 and 11 using those old cards and get full speed thru them all in the same room... That just doesn't work with the newer cards... I really hope this works the way we need it to... To Ben: I'd be interested in testing the 2.4GHz gear in a fairly tough environment here if you have need... -- On 12/10/2014 10:06 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well, these have the AirPrism chip. I don't remember the other having it.. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned
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On 12/10/14, 20:16, Blair Davis wrote: AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct conversion Atheros chipsets. I don't see a major use for it in clients, but for an AP, it could be worth quite a bit to me. I have a few clients where it's a major problem and would be helpful. ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben
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Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL
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They have been, IIRC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:51:48 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: blockquote Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From
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The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact
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So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I'm really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org http://wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com mailto:wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com http://PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun
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I know the 500 was shipping as I was looking to move backhauls to them soon from the 400’s but didn’t know about the others. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:51 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll
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Ben, Can you clarify something for me, after reading the AC spec document that you forwarded to the list this morning, it appears the only product that has airprizm is the Rocket5ACPTP, which does NOT support PTMP. The Rocket5AC-lite has PTMP with the new 7.1 firmware but no AirPrism or GPS support. Right now we use Rocket M5-Ti's with GPS sync which is really needed on a tower with say 6-8 units for Ptmp and 2-4 backhauls, all in 5150-5250 or 5725-5850. It appears you don't really have an AC 5Ghz solution that is going to allow us to get the same density. Garth - Original Message - From: Ben Moore Sent: 12/11/2014 11:51:27 AM To: ubnt_users@wispa.org Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing
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The AC-PtMP with AirPrism is on its way. I haven't heard anything about GPS in the AC line. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: G. Nicholas gnicho...@nwnc.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, Can you clarify something for me, after reading the AC spec document that you forwarded to the list this morning, it appears the only product that has airprizm is the Rocket5ACPTP, which does NOT support PTMP. The Rocket5AC-lite has PTMP with the new 7.1 firmware but no AirPrism or GPS support. Right now we use Rocket M5-Ti's with GPS sync which is really needed on a tower with say 6-8 units for Ptmp and 2-4 backhauls, all in 5150-5250 or 5725-5850. It appears you don't really have an AC 5Ghz solution that is going to allow us to get the same density. Garth - Original Message - From: Ben Moore Sent: 12/11/2014 11:51:27 AM To: ubnt_users@wispa.org Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you
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Hi Garth - The AC PTMP product with airPrism is expected to be released this month. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, G. Nicholas gnicho...@nwnc.net wrote: Ben, Can you clarify something for me, after reading the AC spec document that you forwarded to the list this morning, it appears the only product that has airprizm is the Rocket5ACPTP, which does NOT support PTMP. The Rocket5AC-lite has PTMP with the new 7.1 firmware but no AirPrism or GPS support. Right now we use Rocket M5-Ti's with GPS sync which is really needed on a tower with say 6-8 units for Ptmp and 2-4 backhauls, all in 5150-5250 or 5725-5850. It appears you don't really have an AC 5Ghz solution that is going to allow us to get the same density. Garth - Original Message - From: Ben Moore Sent: 12/11/2014 11:51:27 AM To: ubnt_users@wispa.org Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to keep dragging you back,but is there any data an AirPrisim specs? Rejection/filtering specs and such? On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yeah, that would be expectation... On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From
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I can't express how sad that makes me :[ josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/11/2014 09:31 AM, Ben Moore wrote: Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com mailto:dco...@infowest.com wrote: So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org http://wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com mailto:wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some
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Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Sad panda. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: blockquote So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: blockquote Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto: st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
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This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Sad panda. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding
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I'm referring to outbound on the AP, which is what I think Randy was talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:40:51 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Sad panda. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: blockquote So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: blockquote Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure
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Either way it would add quite a bit. Maybe we do AP with this... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm referring to outbound on the AP, which is what I think Randy was talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:40:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Sad panda. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1
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Rockets, AirFibers, and any PTP options would be great to have a SFP option. (with power Lugs) Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:43 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Either way it would add quite a bit. Maybe we do AP with this... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm referring to outbound on the AP, which is what I think Randy was talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.commailto:benjahmo...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:40:51 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Sad panda. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.commailto:dco...@infowest.com wrote: So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.netmailto:ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest
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Yes, power lugs... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:03:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Rockets, AirFibers, and any PTP options would be great to have a SFP option. (with power Lugs) Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:43 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Either way it would add quite a bit. Maybe we do AP with this... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm referring to outbound on the AP, which is what I think Randy was talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:40:51 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Sad panda. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: blockquote So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: blockquote No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: blockquote Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from
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Just think of how awesome a product would be with AirPrism and GPS timing. #unstoppable From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:37 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
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Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I'm really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different
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So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
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I'd expect the same system that 5 GHz is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:15:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So, will the 2G AC AP's be compatable with 2G M clients? Or is it a forklift style upgrade? -- On 12/10/2014 4:10 PM, Elton Wilson wrote: This is Great news! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: blockquote What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: blockquote Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just
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Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
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Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? --- - *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
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For some of us that use 900MHz, any chance there's going to be AirPrism for that line up? It would help greatly with colocation and external interference. On 12/10/2014 7:17 PM, Ben Moore wrote: No these will be standard 2.4GHz... Thanks, Ben On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun
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+1 -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For some of us that use 900MHz, any chance there's going to be AirPrism for that line up? It would help greatly with colocation and external interference. On 12/10/2014 7:17 PM, Ben Moore wrote: No these will be standard 2.4GHz... Thanks, Ben On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- -- *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
+1 -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For some of us that use 900MHz, any chance there's going to be AirPrism for that line up? It would help greatly with colocation and external interference. On 12/10/2014 7:17 PM, Ben Moore wrote: No these will be standard 2.4GHz... Thanks, Ben On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- -- *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? --- - *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat
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I'm pretty sure that's what Robert said when they announced airprism. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:16 PM To: ubnt_users@wispa.org Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.netmailto:ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.orghttp://wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.commailto:wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
At this point it is not very likely, but will see what comes after 2.4Ghz. Thanks, Ben On Dec 10, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Kevin Lamothe klamo...@vianet.ca wrote: For some of us that use 900MHz, any chance there's going to be AirPrism for that line up? It would help greatly with colocation and external interference. On 12/10/2014 7:17 PM, Ben Moore wrote: No these will be standard 2.4GHz... Thanks, Ben On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Well, these have the AirPrism chip. I don't remember the other having it.. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an Earlier Version type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being released...so it will be staggered. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben Moore via wispa.org 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 and DFS? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? --- - *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
[Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
I have 8 on a shelf that I haven't even booted yet. I was waiting based on some bad feedback early on. What did they announce today? -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Their newsletter was all hyping their AC products, which were announce 14 months ago and we've only seen one or two actually make it into the wild. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:14:43 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I have 8 on a shelf that I haven't even booted yet. I was waiting based on some bad feedback early on. What did they announce today? -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
I have 3 links. 2 are RocketDishes and 1 is Nanobeams. I only had one issue where one side of my link started rebooting every 5 minutes out of nowhere. It had been running without issue for a month before that. I upgraded the firmware and it stopped rebooting. I just got 3 more Rockets and 2 more nanobeams last week, so I'll be upgraded some more links that are at capacity. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Their newsletter was all hyping their AC products, which were announce 14 months ago and we've only seen one or two actually make it into the wild. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:14:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I have 8 on a shelf that I haven't even booted yet. I was waiting based on some bad feedback early on. What did they announce today? -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Thanks, Ben! (Well, and all of the others testing, coding, etc.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:23:04 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Have the new products removed the need for external shielding? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Worse...real internet customers ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Wild, like bears and stuff? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:27:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Is PTMP available? :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 2:23 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes...PTMP is available. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
When are the 3 new devices shipping or available at our distributors? None of the new product numbers have shown up yet. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- Adair Winter VP, Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G, anyway. If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due to hardware changes. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that? I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt about it. ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Will they RMA the older version? On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G, anyway. If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due to hardware changes. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yes ;-) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Is PTMP available? :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 2:23 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Yes...PTMP is available. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
I hope so. I just checked and all 8 I have on the shelf are older than that! -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Paul McNary pmcn...@cameron.net wrote: Will they RMA the older version? On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G, anyway. If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due to hardware changes. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
yes, you can send MAC ID's to supp...@ubnt.com Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- Adair Winter VP, Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that? I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt about it. ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Please email supp...@ubnt.com on this... Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I hope so. I just checked and all 8 I have on the shelf are older than that! -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Paul McNary pmcn...@cameron.net wrote: Will they RMA the older version? On 12/9/2014 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Check the date code (the five characters printed on the label before the MAC), I think 1431G or newer will work... I verified it does work on 1431G, anyway. If I understand correctly, the older Rockets will not support airview due to hardware changes. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:57 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So I bought some early rocket AC's to test with and never got them deployed due to the lack of airview. now I'm reading that my rockets might not support it at all due to a hardware change? or was it just software??... How can I verify this for sure? is there a particular series or something? Or do I just need to fire them up and see? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: __ __ R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam __ __ Also, all of the software updates: __ __ http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ __ __ Some highlights: __ __ - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
You bet! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Thank you kindly for replying. *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:21 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Agreed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:22:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: __ __ R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam __ __ Also, all of the software updates: __ __ http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ __ __ Some highlights: __ __ - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE __ __ The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. __ __ Thanks, Ben __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Oh...and heard back that estimate is ~3 months for release (beta sooner). Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: You bet! On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Thank you kindly for replying. *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:21 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Hello all: We have been testing the UBNT AC PtMP Product line for the last 3 months. Since our testing has started, we have gone through multiple iterations of testing and firmware. Stability overall has been good, fixes to issues were implemented quickly. As with any beta product testing, we were putting it through it's paces. Our current environment is: 190' Water Tower overlooking suburban subdivision of 250 homes, most clients 1 mile. 2.4GHz Noise Floor is -40. 5GHz Noise Floor is -74. The majority of the clients are currently connected at -59 or better. We decided to use this opportunity as a way to compete head-to-head with TW Cable (up to 100Mb) and UVerse DSL (up to 18Mb). We sold it as Free Install, Free for at least 90 days, and no contract. Even at that, it has been a hard sell. However, not a single client has complained or quit. Everyone has replied that things have been great and that the speeds they are receiving at peak times are still 50Mbit+ (something they never saw with Cable or DSL). We currently have ~15 people connected at this time. We are using the NanoBeam AC units as described in the PtP release made today as the CPE's. 20MHz channel in the regular 5.8GHz band. We are running AirOS 7. The nice persistent RF constellations and noise calculations are nice to have. Latency has been great, sub 2ms the majority of the time to our core (this site is 1 hop off our main tower at our office) We are using a Rocket5 AC Lite (Office Tower) to a UBNT PowerBeam 5 AC (Water Tank) to feed the site. Currently to the client, we get 150x100Mbit UDP and about 90x50Mbit TCP (We have seen 120's, this might be a congestion issue going on right now, or because we are using BTest from MikroTik to test with and maxing out the CPU) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Agreed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:22:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote
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Thanks Matt. Yeah, we will make sure nothing is crippled in the process ;-) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: __ __ R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam __ __ Also, all of the software
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users /blockquote ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users /blockquote ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list
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I never saw any v6 to precede v7. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
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They have internal betas? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Internal beta maybe? Just speculating. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I never saw any v6 to precede v7. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Ben Moore [ ben.mo...@ubnt.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: blockquote We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of Mike Hammett [ wispaubntus...@ics-il.net ] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Hey I thought I was the mean one? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: They have internal betas? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Internal beta maybe? Just speculating. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I never saw any v6 to precede v7. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620
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J *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:17 AM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available on these early next year. The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote: So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that? I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt about it. ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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I remember there being a 6.x beta line for a while. Or maybe I'm thinking of the 5.6 versions. -Ty On Dec 9, 2014 2:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: They have internal betas? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Internal beta maybe? Just speculating. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I never saw any v6 to precede v7. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all
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On 12/9/14, 11:32, Ty Featherling wrote: Oh there is a word.. and as usual the word is 'Soon'. I think soon is the new it's on the boat. ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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5.6 On December 9, 2014 12:35:05 PM AKST, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I remember there being a 6.x beta line for a while. Or maybe I'm thinking of the 5.6 versions. -Ty On Dec 9, 2014 2:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: They have internal betas? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:43:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Internal beta maybe? Just speculating. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:38 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I never saw any v6 to precede v7. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:37:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Or its like Linux where they alternate stable and beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w
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Rapid release of airmax support will allow us to replace airmax APs with airmax-ac ptmp and will spur much faster adoption of 802.11ac cpes. On December 9, 2014 1:06:05 PM AKST, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new
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Mind blown. On Dec 9, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam Also, all of the software updates: http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ Some highlights: - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent) - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate assessment of channel conditions - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF Diagnostics, etc...) - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced shortly. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen any problems with them. I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing new. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png
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Yes, 5GHz only at this point... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:24 PM, j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
+1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.netmailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
So you're the one eating my 2.4 spectrum! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 7:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From
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So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light? - Original Message - From: Ben Moore To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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Also in the works, but 5GHz is highest priority out of gate... On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: +1000 Steve Barnes PCSWIN.com *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Some of us need 2.4ghz... there's no way we could get to at least half our customers with 5ghz only... AirPrism in 2.4ghz would be a nice start. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of j...@spitwspots.com [j...@spitwspots.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:24 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ac is only designed around 5ghz. What's it with you and 2ghz? :) On December 9, 2014 1:15:29 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ac stuff is 5 GHz only? I'm still kind of cautious as the old NS didn't work too well on Airmax APs (RM2 for example). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Well, an NSM2 wouldn't since AC doesn't come in the M2 variety... but I assume you meant NSM5, which according to what been just said should work fine. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf
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Yes. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light? - Original Message - *From:* Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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Yes josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/09/2014 03:29 PM, Kees H wrote: So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light? - Original Message - *From:* Ben Moore mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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Are you sure??? ;-) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: HAH I WIN j/k :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/09/2014 03:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Yes. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light? - Original Message - *From:* Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Sometimes I win :( josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/09/2014 03:35 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Are you sure??? ;-) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: HAH I WIN j/k :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/09/2014 03:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Yes. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com mailto:wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light? - Original Message - *From:* Ben Moore mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't expect backwards compatibility any too soon though. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs For those of you that have them... are they working well? Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: __ __ R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam __ __ Also, all of the software updates: __ __ http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/ __ __ Some highlights: __
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted shortly. There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no backwards compatibility. On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more variables). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? __ __ *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. __ __ *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs __ __ ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) __ __ On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs The 3 new products announced today: __
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
Yes, 2GHz AC is in the works. The 5GHz was highest priority and 2GHz is following. I would expect most of the 5GHz products to roll out over next 1-2 months and you will see 2GHz products soon after. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: What he said... I remember the comments about Air Prisim supposed to be coming to 2GHz also... -- On 12/9/2014 5:25 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Speaking of M2, Ben,can you speak on 2.4 GHz rockets with AirPrisim? I recall Robert saying the 2.4 was easy,the 5 GHz was the challenge. We who are blessed with hills and trees use 5 GHz for BackHaul and 2.4 for ptmp and need something to help mitigate self-interference asap! We have started looking at gps options because we have not heard a peep. Are we expecting something soon? On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:21 PM, j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Not an m2 lolz On December 9, 2014 1:07:11 PM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So NSM2 and Nanobeam-400 will work with the new 802.11ac Rockets, correct? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: 11n CPE's will have ability to work with 11AC AP's...This will allow you to transition a tower. Note that 11ac speeds will not be as good as 100% AC network, but 11ac CPE's that you deploy will still be better than 11n. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: That's what I've been assuming too... Ben, can you tell us whether it's going to be backwards compatibility added to the AC series, or forward compatibility added to the M series? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I'm guessing it'll be like M series vs. legacy. Eventually V6 will be the M-series connection to the AC. I'm guessing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:16:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the Backwards compatibility of the new units? *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP). On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are there other changes as well? -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on PTMP networks in the wild ;) On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote: ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p -- *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look any different. Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https
