[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-24 Thread Nxx
The same bug in Fedora Bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447252

They marked it low important.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-24 Thread Angelos Vlassopoulos
Of course they marked it with a low priority (even though medium
severity).

If you read at the end of the bug report:

...official Fedora notes should mention that languages other than
English are not fully supported...

but that's not really the way to make an OS widely accepted, is it?

The world is far bigger than the English speaking countries, and very
diverse.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-24 Thread Simos Xenitellis
It's not a libklavier bug.

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Undecided = Unknown
 Bugwatch: None = freedesktop.org Bugzilla #16562
   Status: Invalid = Unknown

** Changed in: libxklavier
   Importance: Unknown = Undecided
 Bugwatch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #16562 = None
   Status: Confirmed = New

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-24 Thread Simos Xenitellis
I am updating now this bug report.
 
I split the report in two parts; the part that has to do with certain shortcuts 
not working at all in Hardy (such as Alt+AltGr), is covered at
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/251443
Please subscribe to that report, if that is the bug that affects you.

In this report we cover the issue where autologin causes the keyboard
layout settings in GNOME not to work at all after reboot.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Nagel
** Description changed:

- In the keyboard layout preferences, you can set Both alt keys together
- change layout, which worked in Gutsy for toggling between keyboard
- layouts.
+ switching the keyboard layout does not work if you have auto-login-
+ enabled within GDM.
  
- Currently:
- * both alt keys... does not toggle keyboard layouts
- * both ctrl keys... does not toggle keyboard layouts
- * both shift keys... works fine
- * Alt+shift works fine
- 
- Steps to reproduce it are:
- * Visit System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layouts
- * Press Add and add a new layout.
- * Close preferences.
- * Open Text Editor or whatever you want and write something with Double-Alts 
it switch layout and writes with the other layout
- OK till now.
- * Reboot.
- * Open a text editor and try to switch layout... Boom! It doesn't work!
- 
- Temporary Workaround. Open Layouts again and remove/add the second
- layout to start working again.
- 
- another workaround using a script:
- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/196277/comments/60
- 
- The text in the applet will change, to make it appear to be setting the 
correct layout, but the changes do not take effect.
- Actually shortcut doesn't work at all, I set to be alts toggle in keyboard 
preferences, and it doesn't work, another thing is that even with keyboard 
indicator applet you change language, it doesn't changes, name in the applet 
changes, but it doesn't work. I need to open keyboard preferences, layout 
options, remove the tick and then put it back on keyboard layout switching 
shortcut.. As I said, shortcut doesn't work after this, but applet starts to 
change the layout, not only letters on itself.
- 
- This issue has been sufficiently confirmed.  Please do not comment on
- this bug unless you have some information that will help solve the bug.
- 
- [Background]
- Both Canonical and upstream are aware of this issue and consider it of high 
importance.  Unfortunately, the root cause is not something that can be easily 
fixed.
- 
- The issue is that to solve this problem, we need to have a way to save
- the ExplicitVModMapMask, which is tracked okay in memory but not when
- the configuration is passed via XKM binary files, because the XKM binary
- file format simply doesn't have a field for storing the VModMask flag
- data.  The XKM file format allows only 8 flags to be set, and there are
- already 8 defined.  See the upstream bug report for details:
- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4927
- 
- Upstream's proposed solution to the problem is to remove the xkbcomp
- design and the xkm file format entirely, and switch to new X input
- technologies.  This will be a fairly sizeable re-architecting effort,
- and will take time to complete.  If you would like to help contribute to
- this solution for this problem, please work with Sergey Udaltsov.
+ another issue about some keyboard-shortcuts like alt-alt not working
+ under any circumstances has been discussed here. however, it has been
+ split off to Bug #251443 ...

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-24 Thread Mirza
 ...official Fedora notes should mention that languages other than
 English are not fully supported...

Sounds pretty insane to me (for 2008).

Mirza

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-23 Thread Andrew Conkling
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:45 AM, dhd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, I can confirm Peter Hutterer's explanation for the bug.  It's
 really easy to verify.  Just do this:

  1) Enable autologin
 SNIP


Wait, so this bug (at least now) only has to do with autologin? Because I
subscribed a while ago because I was experiencing a different bug, and it
wasn't to do with autologin.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-23 Thread Michael Nagel
see my comment (#131,
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/196277/comments/131
)

this bug should be split into two seperate issues imho!

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Conkling
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:58 AM, dhd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you running Hardy or Intrepid?  I am totally up to date on Hardy on
 three different machines, and I can assure you that the exact sequence
 of actions mentioned in, among others, bug reports 173721, 182336, and
 222653, will show this bug every single time.


Hardy. Granted, I have -updates and -proposed installed, so I may have newer
packages. I haven't gone back to test those actions mentioned in other bugs.
I could though, if it'd help.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-22 Thread dhd
Hi, I haven't yet checked to see if anything in -proposed fixes it (I
tried the new gdm, which doesn't).

However, I can confirm Peter Hutterer's explanation for the bug.  It's
really easy to verify.  Just do this:

 1) Enable autologin
 2) Go to the console and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
 3) While gdm is starting up, press a lot of random keys.  Don't stop until you 
see the GNOME panel appear.
 4) Voilà! (hey, my compose key works)

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-22 Thread Nxx
A related bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/243575

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-19 Thread Shawn vega
yeah i still have this problem too so I think it maybe just a gnome
issue

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-18 Thread Simos Xenitellis
dhd, thanks for taking this further.

See this reply for additional information,
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-July/036947.html

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-18 Thread dhd
Okay, that makes perfect sense, except that it's not at all clear if
it's possible to change the XKB layout for a specific device.  It's
something that, in the new age of MPX, really ought to be possible, but
from what I understand, it would require XKB to be aware of XInput and
multiple devices, which I don't think is the case (see
http://www.fooishbar.org/talks/fosdem-xkb.pdf).

I suppose that what we could do is have libxklavier recopy the XKB
layout to the server every time it gets an XkbNewKeyboardNotify event.
Which, ironically, is more or less the opposite of what it currently
does (it updates its cache from the server's information when it gets
this event - this is the source of those red herring messages above).

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-18 Thread Andrew Conkling
I should mention that I had this bug at some point, but an update fixed it.
I'm not convinced a lot of the duplicates are really the same bug if you're
still seeing this.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-18 Thread dhd
Are you running Hardy or Intrepid?  I am totally up to date on Hardy on
three different machines, and I can assure you that the exact sequence
of actions mentioned in, among others, bug reports 173721, 182336, and
222653, will show this bug every single time.

If this has been fixed in Intrepid then this fix needs to be isolated
and backported to Hardy, right?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-18 Thread G. Christ
I'm using a fresh install of Kubuntu Hardy with KDE 4.1 and don't have
that bug any more. So, has KDE a fix/workaround for this or the problem
is only in Gnome?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-18 Thread cyrulution
I just switched my PC on this morning, using Gnome. tried the keyboard 
switching: ...nothing ... Settings off and on. !!! There it is again!
I installed all available updates. So: at my Ubuntu there's still this bug.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-17 Thread dhd
Hi, I found four more duplicates of this bug.

I am willing to try my hand at tracking it down if someone can inform me
exactly which GNOME component is the one which attempts to apply
keyboard settings on login.  Is it gnome-settings-daemon?

I should note that the upstream bug report says this has nothing to do
with libxklavier - xkb reports settings are applied when xinit is used,
when they really aren't

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-17 Thread dhd
Never mind, I have traced it into libxklavier.

The problem is, those NOT resetting the cache error messages are a red
herring.  I hacked libxklavier to always reset the cache on
XkbNewKeyboardNotify, and it doesn't make any difference.

The settings are not being applied for some other reason.  I did set
XKL_DEBUG to 999 and found one interesting difference.  When I have
autologin on, .xsession-errors contains this:

[1216339029,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/]  found 1 groups
[1216339029,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/]  Group 0 has name [USA]

Whereas, when I log in explicitly, it contains this:

[1216347662,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/]  found 2 groups
[1216347662,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/]  Group 1 has name [USA]
[1216347662,200,xklavier_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_load_all_info/]  Group 0 has name [-]

I don't know much about xkb so I'm not sure what this - group is or
where it came from.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-17 Thread dhd
One more data point here to consider.  When I have autologin on, and I
run 'setxkbmap -print', it actually does show the options which were set
by libxklavier:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes  { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty)   };
xkb_types { include complete  };
xkb_compat{ include complete  };
xkb_symbols   { include 
pc+us+level3(ralt_switch_for_alts_toggle)+group(alts_toggle)+compose(rctrl)   
};
xkb_geometry  { include pc(pc101) };
};

However, these options have not actually been set in the server!  As
everybody else mentioned, running setxkbcomp with no options (which
actually compiles the description and loads it into the server) makes
these settings active.  This is equivalent to running:

setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0

These options aren't stored in any configuration file, so setxkbmap
*must* be getting them from the X server somehow, right?  And yet, for
some reason, the server knows about the uncompiled form of the keyboard
description but hasn't actually loaded it...

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-17 Thread dhd
The libxklavier author is correct, this is not a bug in libxklavier.  It
does everything exactly as it should, and calls XkbWriteToServer() to
set the new keymap, and checks its return value.  I have verified this.

The problem is that XkbWriteToServer() is failing silently, for no
apparent reason, during startup when autologin is enabled (or, it seems,
when GNOME is started via xinit).  And yet it works just fine once
everything has settled down.

I conjecture that the reason it works with manual login is because in
that case, the X server has completely started up well before the point
where GNOME tries to apply keyboard settings.

Maybe moving gnome-settings-daemon later in the startup sequence would
fix this?  I'm revealing my ignorance of how GNOME actually starts up
here...

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-11 Thread svaens
Not sure what you say has been fixed (geez this is a long running bug report) 
but since this is a duplicate bug of a bug that I have experienced (and still 
am experiencing in up-to-date hardy) I will give my short two cents. 

On up-to-date hardy as of 10/07/2008, I cannot (using keyboard
combination alt - alt ) change my keyboard from US to DE(US English
keyboard to German Keyboard) however, I was always able to change from
DE to US using the same key combination. In other words, It would only
work ONE WAY.

For ME, the SHIFT-SHIFT combination works perfectly. Now I can switch
both ways (US to DE, and back again - DE to US).

For me it is only the Alt - Alt key combination that continues not to
work to this day.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-10 Thread evgen
i have the same issue as described abode, that the layout seted up in
System-Preferences-Keyboard holds till the next restart...

as a workaround i have modified  xorg file

original:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de
Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
EndSection

new:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de,ru
Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
Option  XKbOptionsgrp:alt_shift_toggle
EndSection

but nodeadkeys option does not work any more

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-10 Thread evgen
ok the issue with deadkeys is solved as a workaround too, as i have just
tested with setxkbmap de,ru -variant nodeadkeys, in terminal and it
worked so,

new setting in xorg file:

Section InputDevice
 Identifier Generic Keyboard
 Driver kbd
 Option XkbRules xorg
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout de,ru
 Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys,
 Option XKbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle
EndSection

have you seen this differens?
replaced Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys with  Option XkbVariant 
nodeadkeys,
:-P
so all you need is:

Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys,nodeadkey OR
Option XkbVariant ,nodeadkey  OR
Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys,
what ever your layouts need

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-07 Thread Erez Segal
I can confirm that adding setxkbmap to the session works.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-05 Thread Frantisek Fuka
I tried adding setxkbmap to my session again and, suprprisingly, it
now works perfectly (on 3 different computers). However, I am 100% sure
that when I tried the same thing in May, it didn't work (to be exact, it
worked, but dead keys with diacritics didn't - as described in my post
from May).

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-04 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Frantisek:

You should check again the workaround with added  setxkbmap to the GNOME 
session startup.
This should work. I think you mentioned above that it did not work for you, 
however I would like to insist on this.
Could you please describe all the steps you took to add the command in the 
sessions?
An alternative would be to write a script that looks like

--
#!/bin/sh

(sleep 5; /usr/bin/setxkbmap) 
--

and invoke that command in the sessions. What the command does is it
sleeps for 5 seconds before running setxkbmap.

Mirza: In many cases there are some minor differences in applying
commands, which cause the difference in results. I believe it is
imperative to double-check the steps. I hope it clears out when
Frantisek tries again.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Nagel
META-Question: at some point we agreed that there are two seperate bugs, namely:
1) automatic login to gnome changes keyboard layout
2) some previously working combos(like double alt) are no longer valid 
key-combos to change the layout

are these bugs properly split now?
where is the main bug for issue 1?
where is the main bug for issue 2?
could description and titles be modified to reflect this seperation?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-04 Thread Mantas Kriaučiūnas
** Also affects: libgnomekbd (Baltix)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-04 Thread Nxx
However, as I wrote earlier, my users need to switch between US and CZ 
layouts BY CLICKING ON SOME SORT OF 
INDICATOR in the Ubuntu panel

Well in my case the layout switching worked by clicking the indicator
even when the settings were put in xorg.conf... Until recent update but
it is a matter of another bug report I made.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Frantisek Fuka
I thought this bug only affects people who upgraded from older Ubuntu
versions but yesterday I installed 8.04 desktop on a brand new computer
and the bug is there...

Can I somehow help with getting it fixed?

Until it's fixed: Is there ANY WAY AT ALL to have working keyboard
layout indicator in Ubuntu panel and switch layouts by clicking on this
indicator? I install computers for non-geeks and they are unable to
remember some sort of key-combination to switch layouts.

As I mentioned on 2008-05-24, the setxkbmap solution doesn't work for
Czech layout.

Switching autologin off is also out of question because these users
don't even know their passwords.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Frantisek:

The source of the problem appears to be that when X starts, it tries to
initialise the current layouts, and I believe that it does a bit later
than GNOME itself. As if GNOME sets the layout correctly, then X.org
kicks in and resets to the values found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Therefore, one workaround is to place all the settings in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf at they keyboard layout section.

I sent an e-mail to the X.org mailing list,
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-July/036938.html

We will see if that clears up the confusion.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Frantisek Fuka
Simos,

I know I can put XkbLayout us,cz to xorg.conf and then switch between
layouts using keyboard shortcut.

However, as I wrote earlier, my users need to switch between US and CZ
layouts BY CLICKING ON SOME SORT OF INDICATOR in the Ubuntu panel, not
by pressing Alt-Shift, Alt-Alt or some other cryptic (for them)
combination. Also, they  prefer to have difeerent keyboard layouts for
different windows. They are 60-70 years old people without computer
experience!

From your name I'd say you are Greek so you must know how important it
is for people to be able to use both US and local keyboard.

Tell me how I can do this. (This is not a rhetorical question. I really
have no idea if or how this can be done.)

I know the indicator and switching start working immediately when I
change something in Keyboard preferences. Can this somehow be done
programatically? For example, I could have a script that waits until 10
seconds after desktop has started, then changes some insignificant thing
in Keyboard Layout settings, and re-initializes it? This could be the
way, at least for now...

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Mirza
Frantisek Fuka wrote:
 As I mentioned on 2008-05-24, the setxkbmap solution doesn't work for
 Czech layout.

I have Czech layout and setxkbmap added to session startup dialog works 
fine. So, bug has random nature probably related to some obscure X 
Server setting(s). I have feeling that if I dig deep into any problem I 
had with Ubuntu, I ended up at some X Server bug that is root cause of 
problem, just like here. Is it really impossible for company like 
Canonical to create some alliance and rewrite (and more importantly 
re-design) this shitty layer that lives like cancer in between healthy 
layers of kernel and Gnome/KDE? /flame

Mirza

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Simos Xenitellis
First of all, we are all in the same boat. We all want to get this
fixed, and the only way to get it is by contributing our time on
figuring out a solution.

Secondly, I am not aware that a developer is funded to work full-time on
keyboard issues and X. There are some other issues pertaining to
keyboard support, more complex than this issue. It would be great if
there was a person funded to work full time on these core issues.

Mirza, we want more evidence that the source of the problem is that, due
to autologin, X.org is too slow to set the layout settings, and it sets
them AFTER GNOME has done so, essentially overriding GNOME. In your
reply, it is not clear that from your tests, you verify the above. You
mention random. Does it work for you for some cases, while in others
it does not work?

Frantisek, I had a discussion with the developer of libklavier last
week. It is possible to write a program that invokes a function from the
libxklavier library so that it configures again the keyboard layout. I
believe this is what you are asking me. Another way for a workaround is
to figure out where/when is the GNOME applet invoked, and add a delay
for, let's say 5 seconds, before actually running the applet. You may
find the developer at #xkbconfig on Freenode if you want to take this
further.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Iulian Udrea
** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-07-03 Thread Mirza
Simos Xenitellis wrote:
 Mirza, we want more evidence that the source of the problem is that, due
 to autologin, X.org is too slow to set the layout settings, and it sets
 them AFTER GNOME has done so, essentially overriding GNOME. In your
 reply, it is not clear that from your tests, you verify the above. You
 mention random. Does it work for you for some cases, while in others
 it does not work?

In my case, adding setxkbmap to Gnome session startup solved issue 
completely, including keyboard switching and Gnome panel 
indicator/switching - I am not aware of any remaining problems. However, 
same didn't work in Frantisek's case, hence my comment on randomness 
of this issue - same solution might or might not work on different 
computers.

Mirza

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-29 Thread Frantisek Fuka
Here is attached my .xsession-errors file with XKL_DEBUG=100 with
autologin enabled (resulting in inability to switch layouts):


** Attachment added: .xsession-errors
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15678665/xsession-errors

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-29 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Thanks Frantisek.
The relevant lines are

[1214761388,100,xklavier_config_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_multiple_layouts_supported/]  
!!! Checking multiple layouts support
[1214761388,100,xklavier_config.c:xkl_engine_get_ruleset_name/] Rules 
set: [xorg]
[1214761388,100,xklavier_config_xkb.c:xkl_xkb_multiple_layouts_supported/]  
!!! Multiple layouts ARE supported
[1214761388,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]The backend does not 
require manual layout management - but it is provided by the 
application[1214761389,100,xklavier_config.c:xkl_engine_get_ruleset_name/]
Rules set: [xorg]
[1214761389,100,xklavier_config.c:xkl_engine_get_ruleset_name/] Rules 
set: [xorg]
[1214761390,100,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_reset_all_info/]  NOT Resetting the 
cache: same configuration
[1214761390,100,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_reset_all_info/]  NOT Resetting the 
cache: same configuration
[1214761390,100,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_reset_all_info/]  NOT Resetting the 
cache: same configuration
[1214761390,100,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_reset_all_info/]  NOT Resetting the 
cache: same configuration

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-29 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Created upstream bug report, added link here

When autologin is enabled, system uses the xorg.conf layout settings
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16562

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Unknown = Undecided
 Bugwatch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #4927 = None
   Status: Unknown = New

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-29 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: libxklavier
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-29 Thread Simos Xenitellis
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #16562
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16562

** Also affects: libxklavier via
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16562
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Unknown = Undecided
 Bugwatch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #4927 = None
   Status: Confirmed = New

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: New = Invalid

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Undecided = Unknown
 Bugwatch: None = freedesktop.org Bugzilla #4927
   Status: Invalid = Unknown

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-27 Thread Aristotelis Mikropoulos
I, also, can confirm that disabling auto-login fixes the problem. But
this is, obviously, not a solution.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-27 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Could someone that is affected by this issue (they have enabled
Autologin and the switching does not work), add their ~/.xsession-errors
here?

At the start of the file there should be some helpful debugging errors.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-27 Thread Bob Radu
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US.
Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to 
/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
SESSION_MANAGER=local/HOME-PC:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6300
** Message: another SSH agent is running at: /tmp/ssh-ZFDdjE6300/agent.6300
W: daemon-conf.c: Failed to open configuration file '/etc/pulse/daemon.conf': 
Permission denied
expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc
last scanned symbol is: XF86KbdLightOnOff
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc
last scanned symbol is: XF86KbdBrightnessDown
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc
last scanned symbol is: XF86KbdBrightnessUp
Warning:  No symbols defined for SYRQ (keycode 92)
Warning:  No symbols defined for II65 (keycode 101)
Warning:  No symbols defined for BRK (keycode 114)
Warning:  No symbols defined for FK13 (keycode 118)
Warning:  No symbols defined for FK14 (keycode 119)
Warning:  No symbols defined for FK15 (keycode 120)
Warning:  No symbols defined for FK16 (keycode 121)
Warning:  No symbols defined for FK17 (keycode 122)
Warning:  No symbols defined for KPDC (keycode 123)
Warning:  No symbols defined for XFER (keycode 129)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I02 (keycode 130)
Warning:  No symbols defined for NFER (keycode 131)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I04 (keycode 132)
Warning:  No symbols defined for AE13 (keycode 133)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I06 (keycode 134)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I07 (keycode 135)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I08 (keycode 136)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I09 (keycode 137)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I0A (keycode 138)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I0B (keycode 139)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I0C (keycode 140)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I0D (keycode 141)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I0E (keycode 142)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I0F (keycode 143)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I10 (keycode 144)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I11 (keycode 145)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I12 (keycode 146)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I13 (keycode 147)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I14 (keycode 148)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I15 (keycode 149)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I16 (keycode 150)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I17 (keycode 151)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I18 (keycode 152)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I19 (keycode 153)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I1A (keycode 154)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I1B (keycode 155)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K59 (keycode 157)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I1E (keycode 158)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I1F (keycode 159)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I20 (keycode 160)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I21 (keycode 161)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I22 (keycode 162)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I23 (keycode 163)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I24 (keycode 164)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I25 (keycode 165)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I26 (keycode 166)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I27 (keycode 167)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I28 (keycode 168)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I29 (keycode 169)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K5A (keycode 170)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I2B (keycode 171)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I2C (keycode 172)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I2D (keycode 173)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I2E (keycode 174)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I2F (keycode 175)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I30 (keycode 176)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I31 (keycode 177)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I32 (keycode 178)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I33 (keycode 179)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I34 (keycode 180)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K5B (keycode 181)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K5D (keycode 182)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K5E (keycode 183)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K5F (keycode 184)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I39 (keycode 185)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I3A (keycode 186)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I3B (keycode 187)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I3C (keycode 188)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K62 (keycode 189)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K63 (keycode 190)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K64 (keycode 191)
Warning:  No symbols defined for K65 (keycode 192)
Warning:  No symbols 

[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-27 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Comparing with my output, it does not show something different.
What you can do now is set the XKL_DEBUG variable in /etc/environment
If you set it to 100, you will get very detailed output. You can try 100 first, 
and if the output is too much (a line per key pressed), you can change to 1.

Then, you can attach the .xsession-errors file in this report (there is
a way to attach files from below).

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-27 Thread Rapolas K.
Simos Xenitellis, actually I don't care which issue this report covers,
all I want is to get fixed it. I think Nxx answered already. But it is
not bothering me now, I added setxkbmap command to session startup and
it is working now. Also i had to change from both alts, to alt+shift
shortcut. I don't like this way, because when I try to move window to
another desktop, which default shortcut is alt+shift+control arrow and
I'm used to it, I get my keyboard layout switched, but not the window
moved.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-26 Thread Erez Segal
I updated everything I could - and still experience the bug. I can
confirm though, that canceling auto login worked for me.

 this problem has seized to exist for me - after an update (didnt notice
 exactly which ones, due to being very busy) it just works..

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-25 Thread mp

this problem has seized to exist for me - after an update (didnt notice
exactly which ones, due to being very busy) it just works..

Timpotten wrote:
 The inability to switch from initial US default to User may be connected to 
 the feature that  the user preference flag can not be set. 
 On the  system - preferences - keyboard - [layouts] tab  - although any 
 loaded keyboard type can be selected (say for deletion)
  The radio button defaultindicator can not be selected to indicate the 
 user's choice is activated as default.  
 
 On mine, although editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf has worked, and the machine 
 now selects my Spanish keyboard on start-up, 
 I would have to edit this xorg.conf file again to set the default to 
 something else.
 
 Was there an update in this area sometime about May 6th 2008?
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008 05 06 153915 (contained the correct ES Keyboard)
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008 05 06 155231 (contained US Keyboard which should have 
 been deleted)


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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-25 Thread Timpotten
The inability to switch from initial US default to User may be connected to the 
feature that  the user preference flag can not be set. 
On the  system - preferences - keyboard - [layouts] tab  - although any loaded 
keyboard type can be selected (say for deletion)
 The radio button defaultindicator can not be selected to indicate the user's 
choice is activated as default.  

On mine, although editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf has worked, and the machine 
now selects my Spanish keyboard on start-up, 
I would have to edit this xorg.conf file again to set the default to something 
else.

Was there an update in this area sometime about May 6th 2008?
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008 05 06 153915 (contained the correct ES Keyboard)
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008 05 06 155231 (contained US Keyboard which should have 
been deleted)

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-24 Thread Nxx
Since the report is about not working layout switching after reboot,
it's definitely about Gnome settings not loading at bootup.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-22 Thread Nxx
Probably it is related to some timing issues during bootup. For example,
I frequently have Nautilus to fail to load at bootup with autologin (but
not always), see the bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/241807 ,  when
typing the password manually it always loads, and also pptp connection
if configured to run in the startup scripts, works only if to insert a
long pause before the command, or start in step-by-step mode (in earlier
distributions all worked well without any pause).

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
After discussion with Sergey Udaltsov (maintainer of xkeyboard-config,
libgnomekbd, libxklavier), he said that the source of this is
libxklavier. So I am removing libgnomekdb and add libxklavier in the bug
report.

** Changed in: libgnomekbd (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

** Also affects: libxklavier (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: libxklavier (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
This bug report mixes together two separate issues.

The first issue is that some shortcuts that can be used to switch between 
layouts, do not work. They do not work due to issues that related to the X.Org, 
and are described at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4927
A workaround here is to change the shortcut to something else that works.

Then, this report switched to a different issue. When autologin is enabled, 
GNOME (keyboard settings) are not able to configure the shortcut or any other 
keyboard-related settings (such as euro, compose, layouts, etc). This is (most 
probably) due to the autologin feature.
The workaround here is to disable autologin.

Rapolas (reporter), how shall we go about this issue? Which issue do you
want this report to cover?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-18 Thread Timpotten
The default radio button on mine is not selectable
I found I had two files after resetting keyboard and deleting the US keyboard 
(so only Spain was displayed)

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080506153915 (contained the correct ES Keyboard)
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080506155231 (contained US Keyboard which should have been 
deleted)

They contain the advice

# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-18 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Bryce, it looks to me that the issue that you are referring to 
is different from the issue that the GUI layout settings are not enabled
when the user has activated the autologon feature.

When GNOME starts, libgnomekdb makes a decision 
whether to use the system layout settings (found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf), 
or use the user-configured layout settings (found in gconf).

The latter is the typical choice, and only when gconf settings are not 
provided, 
libgnomekdb ends up using the system (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) as last resort 
(shortcut does not work after reboot).

What it looks to me is that during autologin, libgnomekdb fails to read
the gconf entries (maybe gconf is started a bit later, or something?) so
it ends up with the system settings (xorg.conf).

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Nxx
Confirming in Hardy. Gusty had no such problem.

Also observed the same problem on Fedora 9 after updates (but on the
fresh install all worked well).

** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Nxx
Still there after all updated as of June 17 2008 (i.e. with post- 8.04.1
updates).

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Simos Xenitellis
The picture I have is this:

A. Ubuntu and GNOME have their own system to deal with switching
layouts, adding options such as whether to get the euro key and so on.
You see these in System/Preferences/Keyboard/Layouts.

B. Traditionally, the Linux desktop would read this information from the
cryptic file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the Keyboard section. Over there
you can set all the options that you normally set now in the graphical
user interface.

C. When the graphical interface starts, GNOME makes a decision; is it
possible to use the settings in System/Preferences/Keyboard/Layouts?
Now, it appears in some cases, the answer is no (for example, if you
have Autologin enabled), so GNOME eventually uses the keyboard settings
found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. These settings are not configured, and it
ends up just typing English.

The hot issue is this:

Does this problem appear when you enable Autologin into GNOME?

Can you verify that when you disable Autologin, the settings work
(requires reboot)?

Are there other cases (when Autologin is off) that the problem still
appears?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Frantisek Fuka
To Simos Xenitellis:

Yes, this problem appears ONLY when I enable Autologin. With Autologin
enabled, the problem is ALWAYS present. With Autologin disabled, the
problem is NEVER present.

When the Autologin is enabled, the solution to this problem is opening
Keyboard preferences, opening Layouts / Layout options and toggling
ANY option On and back Off. Afterwards, the switching works correctly...
Until next reboot.

Unfortunately, I am not enough Linux expert to dig deeper into this
problem. But if someone wants to dig, I am more than willing to help. I
have this exactly same problem on FOUR different machines and it's very
hard for me to explain to (non-geek) people that Yes, Ubuntu is great,
you can use it instead of Windows but you cannot type Czech characters
until you do this crazy stuff each time you turn it on...

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Nxx
I experience this problem both with and without autologin.

Also in Ubuntu 7.10 I was sometimes asked afted boot which settings to
use: from xorg.conf or from Gnome (even when autologin was enabled). In
8.04 I never seen this question dialogue.

In Fedora 9. This also was independent of autologin. The bug appeared
exactly after the system update.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Nxx
I agree that this is very important for overal Linux image amang people.
Here in Russia EVERY Ubuntu user will face this problem, which makes
Linux an image of very buggy OS. People still ask is there support for
Russian in Linux? but what you should answer them? Yes, it has, but...
well wait until they fix it? I wonder how it was possible to release
this update without testing.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Bob Radu
I can confirm that the issue does not appear when I turn off auto or
timed login.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread xlinuks
I confirm too that the issue is gone after turning off auto login (at 
System-Administration-Login Window-Security).
This might be also important: each time I after install (not start, but 
install) Ubuntu 8.04, when the first time I access this option it takes like 
forever to display this window (sometimes I have to restart the computer, 
regardless of AMD or Intel chip). So perhaps this bug gets auto-created at 
this point?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Nxx: You are currently the only person mentioning that the problem
exists for you, even when you disable autologin (or timed login).

Could you please run the command

gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd

and report back the results?

What I am interested in is the value for the overrideSettings
variable.

If this variable is false, then GNOME ignores the settings in
System/Preferences/Keyboard/Layouts, and uses the information from
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.

AFAIK, this variable (overrideSettings) is set to false when you are
presented with the situation you describe with also in Ubuntu 7.10 I
was sometimes asked afted boot which settings to use: from xorg.conf or
from Gnome in your comment above.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Ori,

You linked this bug to the bug report 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4927
It does not appear to have relevance to me.

I am considering removing the link. Does anyone have objections?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread syntax
I wonder why the simmilar or maybe the same bug #173721 is marked as
fixed. Adding the configuration into the xorg.conf is a workaround, but
definitely not a fix.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Jacob,

Ubuntu Linux is this community; which is ourselves.
When we find bugs, we cooperate in figuring out what's the source and how to 
fix them.
If one does not have programming skills, they can still help with triaging, 
testing and reporting back what is requested.
All this work is voluntary, whether it is Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE or else.
Suppose some guy manages to fix this bug. Is anyone going to send him/her a 
personal e-mail thanking them?
We, as end-users have to figure out constructive ways to attract people to help 
in programming, or make the effort ourselves as well to help with figuring out 
these bugs.

I would like to switch this discussion back to constructive effort, and
eventually fix this bug.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
Simos,

Im sorry if I have offended any body, I was perhaps too full of
feelings.

I have files my proposal of an errata document as a seperate bug.
Those interested can subscribe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/240713 
where we can then discuss the matter.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread aldebx
Jacob, 
despite Canonical's fault is that it hasn't even mentioned this bug, they 
cannot provide assistance for it. 

So it is not an issue in the input-output code, it is a bigger issue - in the
XKM format. This causes problems when configuration is passed through binary 
files.

This problem is very visible now - the default GNOME switcher Alt-Alt is broken
- because virtual modifiers RAlt/LAlt are not passed to X server.

These quotes are taken from the upstream bug report 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4927
which explains why this bug couldn't be fixed before 8.04 shipping and also 
before Xorg 7.4. It seems to be requiring a relevant architecture change in the 
keyboard manager subset.

I'm also waiting for it to be fixed. If some Canonical dev can help the
guys at Xorg would be a nice contribution for the whole community since
this bug has a relevant major impact on the user experience.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Bryce Harrington
For errata on Xorg drivers, I would refer you to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Drivers, which is an Xorg driver status page I
maintain, listing known issues.  Please feel free to let me know if you
know any other highly important confirmed issues that ought to be added
there.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Bryce Harrington
Both Canonical and upstream are aware of this issue and consider it of
high importance.  Unfortunately, the root cause is not something that
can be easily fixed.

The issue is that to solve this problem, X needs to have a way to save
the ExplicitVModMapMask, which is tracked okay in memory but not when
the configuration is passed via XKM binary files, because the XKM binary
file format simply doesn't have a field for storing the VModMask flag
data.  The XKM file format allows only 8 flags to be set total, and
there are already 8 defined.  See the upstream bug report for details:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4927

Upstream's proposed solution to the problem is to remove the xkbcomp
design and the xkm file format entirely, and switch to new X input
technologies.  This will be a fairly sizeable re-architecting effort,
and will take time to complete.  If you would like to help contribute to
this solution for this problem, please offer your assistance to Sergey
Udaltsov.


** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged
   Target: ubuntu-8.04.1 = None

** Description changed:

  In the keyboard layout preferences, you can set Both alt keys together
  change layout, which worked in Gutsy for toggling between keyboard
  layouts.
  
  Currently:
  * both alt keys... does not toggle keyboard layouts
  * both ctrl keys... does not toggle keyboard layouts
  * both shift keys... works fine
  * Alt+shift works fine
  
  Steps to reproduce it are:
  * Visit System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layouts
  * Press Add and add a new layout.
  * Close preferences.
  * Open Text Editor or whatever you want and write something with Double-Alts 
it switch layout and writes with the other layout
  OK till now.
  * Reboot.
  * Open a text editor and try to switch layout... Boom! It doesn't work!
  
  Temporary Workaround. Open Layouts again and remove/add the second
  layout to start working again.
  
  another workaround using a script:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/196277/comments/60
  
  The text in the applet will change, to make it appear to be setting the 
correct layout, but the changes do not take effect.
  Actually shortcut doesn't work at all, I set to be alts toggle in keyboard 
preferences, and it doesn't work, another thing is that even with keyboard 
indicator applet you change language, it doesn't changes, name in the applet 
changes, but it doesn't work. I need to open keyboard preferences, layout 
options, remove the tick and then put it back on keyboard layout switching 
shortcut.. As I said, shortcut doesn't work after this, but applet starts to 
change the layout, not only letters on itself.
  
  This issue has been sufficiently confirmed.  Please do not comment on
  this bug unless you have some information that will help solve the bug.
+ 
+ [Background]
+ Both Canonical and upstream are aware of this issue and consider it of high 
importance.  Unfortunately, the root cause is not something that can be easily 
fixed.
+ 
+ The issue is that to solve this problem, we need to have a way to save
+ the ExplicitVModMapMask, which is tracked okay in memory but not when
+ the configuration is passed via XKM binary files, because the XKM binary
+ file format simply doesn't have a field for storing the VModMask flag
+ data.  The XKM file format allows only 8 flags to be set, and there are
+ already 8 defined.  See the upstream bug report for details:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4927
+ 
+ Upstream's proposed solution to the problem is to remove the xkbcomp
+ design and the xkm file format entirely, and switch to new X input
+ technologies.  This will be a fairly sizeable re-architecting effort,
+ and will take time to complete.  If you would like to help contribute to
+ this solution for this problem, please work with Sergey Udaltsov.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-17 Thread Nxx
Why simply not to rollback to the previous versions of the software
which worked well?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-14 Thread Indy
I just would like to add that the issue applies for the Eurosign €, as
well. So, annoying, indeed.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-07 Thread Bob Radu
Again confirmed after the latest updates.  Gnome 2.22.2 and Hardy (Linux
2.6.24-18-generic).  So annoying.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-05 Thread Amr Hassan
confirmed in hardy..

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-03 Thread syntax
To Joro Todorov: Have you tried adding it as autostart item? See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/196277/comments/69

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-03 Thread Joro Todorov
Thanks syntax

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-03 Thread mp
Confirmed.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-06-02 Thread Joro Todorov
 'setxkbmap' works for me too. It also fixes Ctsl/Caps swapping bug.
 However I have to execute it every time. I tried adding 'setxkbmap' line to 
.bash_profile or rc.local but it didn't work. Why :( ?

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-30 Thread G. Christ
I can confirm the same bug in Hardy.

Adding 'setxkbmap' to Gnome's autostart has fixed this.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-30 Thread Miloš Mandarić
'setxkbmap' also fixes problem in my case.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-30 Thread Frantisek Fuka
Including the diacritics dead keys? Not in my case (Czech layout). See
my message above.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-28 Thread Jarlath
Hi Yankele52,

Submit a seperate report if you believe it is a Mozilla issue, and tag
it for that package. If you need help doing this you can email me and
I'll be happy to help. But a discussion outside the scope of this bug
report does not belong here.

Regards,
Jarlath

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-27 Thread Yankele52
 I added the Israel layout and then +Add to Panel... the keyboard indicator 
and now I can switch from the panel between En and He with no problem.
The only problem I have is with Thunderbird Hebrew (I can't combine He-En, It 
makes me crazy...) .  I believe  that this is a Mozilla-Thunderbird bug. 
Can you help

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-24 Thread Frantisek Fuka
Unfortunately, the setxkbmap solution doesn't work for me. After I run
setxkbmap, I can indeed switch between Czech and English keyboard (the
toolbar indicator now works and the layout changes correctly) but the
dead key for writing characters with diacritics doesn't work at all.
It's completely DEAD (hahaha). When I press the dead key (the key
immediately to the right of -) and then a, it should produce á.
However, it produces normal a, the dead key doesn't do anything and
that means I'm unable to write several commonly used Czech characters.
After I go to Keyboard configuration and change something small,
everything works fine - until next reboot.

Everything also works fine when I disable gdm autologin.

When I create new user account, it's also mared by this problem.

The xorg.conf solution is useless for me because it changes the global
keyboard configuration for everyone whereas different users on my
machine need to use different keyboard configurations.

I see the exact same problem on FOUR different machines (all of them
updated from 7.10) with quite different hardware and software
configurations. I read it works correctly on virgin installations.
What should I remove/reinstall? Do I realy have to reinstall my whole
system just because of this bug? It's very annoying to have to explain
to my 70-year old mother that she has to go to Keyboard options and
change something, then change it back for the keyboard to work in both
languages...

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-19 Thread dj3
The above solution works for me, thanks a lot! (For German/Russian:
Option XkbLayout de,ru).

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-18 Thread ikar6
O.K, following the directions here I have found a solution for changing
layouts among us and greek keyboard. The issue has been resolved in my
case after manual correction of /etc/X11/xorg.conf as shown below:

ORIGINAL:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Modified:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout us,el
Option XkbOptions grp:ctrl_shift_toggle 
EndSection

Hope this can help others too!

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-17 Thread ikar6
O.K I have the same problem and I have to set the keyboard layout
settings every time I boot. Since I am a linux newbie could you more
specific regarding the steps I have to follow? How do I save and run the
script and how do I set it to the start up manager? Thx

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-13 Thread Bryce Harrington
Another way to add 'setxkbmap' is to copy this into file
~/.config/autostart/setxkbmap.desktop:

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Name=setxkbmap
Name[en_US]=setxkbmap
Exec=setxkbmap
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-11 Thread lunomad

I have this problem as well in Hardy full updates on a Dell X1.

I use US, Latin American and Japanese layouts. I have three problems:

1)  Alt+alt switching does not work  (I have enabled LAlt+LShift which works)
2) Show keyboard layout opens a window, but no keyboard is shown.
3) Japanese SCIM input is not working.

Is there anyone who has gotten this to work that is also using SCIM?

I have edited my xorg.conf file with the following section:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout us,latam,jp106
Option  XkbOptionsgrp:alts_toggle
EndSection

And I put a setxkbmap command in my gnome session.  I'm afraid of
setting up the script because it looks like it might conflict with the
xkb settings?

Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-10 Thread syntax
Command setxkbmap works fine, but has not effect for me, when I put
it into ~/.bash_profile or even ~/.profile

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-10 Thread Mirza
to syntax: easier way - in system menu on top of the screen, find
session configuration, I hope it is called that way in English
version, and you will see list of programs that are started after login.
Pres add and enter setxkbmap command, name it anyhow, and it should
work.

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Re: [Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-10 Thread syntax
@Mirza: Thanks, it seems that adding 'setxkbmap' to Gnome's autostart
finally work.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-09 Thread Mýreček
I have the same problem but I have temporal (delayed) login active.
If I perform login manually, layout switching works OK. If I wait for automatic 
login, layout switching doesn't work.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-08 Thread Yomamen
New account and new default Xorg config haven't any effect.

The command setxkbmap works fine

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-06 Thread maor
according to the link upstream this bug wont be fixed any time soon
(wont be ready for 7.4) i suggest we distribute the script using
automatic update .

** Description changed:

  In the keyboard layout preferences, you can set Both alt keys together
  change layout, which worked in Gutsy for toggling between keyboard
  layouts.
  
  Currently:
  * both alt keys... does not toggle keyboard layouts
  * both ctrl keys... does not toggle keyboard layouts
  * both shift keys... works fine
  * Alt+shift works fine
  
  Steps to reproduce it are:
  * Visit System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layouts
  * Press Add and add a new layout.
  * Close preferences.
  * Open Text Editor or whatever you want and write something with Double-Alts 
it switch layout and writes with the other layout
  OK till now.
  * Reboot.
  * Open a text editor and try to switch layout... Boom! It doesn't work!
  
  Temporary Workaround. Open Layouts again and remove/add the second
  layout to start working again.
  
+ another workaround using a script:
+ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/196277/comments/60
+ 
  The text in the applet will change, to make it appear to be setting the 
correct layout, but the changes do not take effect.
  Actually shortcut doesn't work at all, I set to be alts toggle in keyboard 
preferences, and it doesn't work, another thing is that even with keyboard 
indicator applet you change language, it doesn't changes, name in the applet 
changes, but it doesn't work. I need to open keyboard preferences, layout 
options, remove the tick and then put it back on keyboard layout switching 
shortcut.. As I said, shortcut doesn't work after this, but applet starts to 
change the layout, not only letters on itself.
  
  This issue has been sufficiently confirmed.  Please do not comment on
  this bug unless you have some information that will help solve the bug.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-06 Thread Roderick Greening
For those who have this problem, can they try creating a brand new user
account and testing it there. It is possible that those that have
migrated from earlier releases via dist-upgrades may have some files in
their home dir conflicting. Testing under a new account will help verify
that.

Secondly, if you still have this problem under a new account, and have
gone the emigration path, try making a backup of your xorg.conf and
trying a new default xorg.conf.

Just some additional test cases for those working on this bug.

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[Bug 196277] Re: [hardy] keyboard layout switching shortcut doesn't work after reboot

2008-05-06 Thread syntax
@Roderick Greening:
Creating new account, setting the keyboard and autologin won't help. I get the 
same symptoms.
Reverting to the default xorg.conf will create the same keyboard input section 
like in my old xorg.conf, so I think, it won't have any effect. It is very 
unlikely that this is caused by eg. mouse configuration. (But anything is 
possible; anyone who wants to test this?)

guy_elg's script is possible solution, but please notice that it will
change your keyboard settings to Alt+Shift switching and remove all your
extra configuration (like compose key etc.) You have to change it
accordingly to your settings or we can make some universal solution when
we dump the settings first.

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