Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 08/28/2015 09:27 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-28 08:20, Richmond wrote: On 08/27/2015 11:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/27/2015 2:33 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Since it's so desperately in need of improvement, and you have such a good idea of how it can be made better, perhaps you could help out? I love UK understatement. As one of those rude Americans I would have said, Okay Richmond, put your money where your mouth is, or maybe, put up or shut up. We're such an...assertive...culture. Indeed you are! But I'm also an assertive sort of chap, so I will say: Yes! I will edit those bits that I feel are lacking, and work on the assumption that others will be doing the same! Awesome. Community contributions to the open source package are always really welcome. I'll do what I can to work with you and ensure that documentation changes get incorporated quickly and efficiently. Peter Well: as an almost complete moron in certain respects, I would be grateful if you could outline a way to edit the documents at https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides and submit them after the editing . . . does this involve setting up my own github branch Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 2015-08-28 08:20, Richmond wrote: On 08/27/2015 11:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/27/2015 2:33 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Since it's so desperately in need of improvement, and you have such a good idea of how it can be made better, perhaps you could help out? I love UK understatement. As one of those rude Americans I would have said, Okay Richmond, put your money where your mouth is, or maybe, put up or shut up. We're such an...assertive...culture. Indeed you are! But I'm also an assertive sort of chap, so I will say: Yes! I will edit those bits that I feel are lacking, and work on the assumption that others will be doing the same! Awesome. Community contributions to the open source package are always really welcome. I'll do what I can to work with you and ensure that documentation changes get incorporated quickly and efficiently. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team LiveCode on reddit! https://reddit.com/r/livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 28 Aug 2015, at 15:15, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Well: as an almost complete newcomer to Github, I would be grateful if you could outline a way to edit the documents at https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides and submit them after the editing . . . does this involve setting up my own github branch Yes. You will need a Github account and then fork the Github repository. You can then edit the documents on-line. Once you have finished editing the documents, you will need to create a Pull Request. The LiveCode team will then decide whether to accept or decline your changes. One thing that is needed for your changes to be accepted is to for you to enter into a contributor’s agreement http://livecode.com/account/developer/contribute http://livecode.com/account/developer/contribute You can make better use of Git by downloading the repository onto your own machine. I was able to do that quite easily by following this https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ I have no doubt that you will breeze though the process. Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 08/27/2015 11:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/27/2015 2:33 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Since it's so desperately in need of improvement, and you have such a good idea of how it can be made better, perhaps you could help out? I love UK understatement. As one of those rude Americans I would have said, Okay Richmond, put your money where your mouth is, or maybe, put up or shut up. We're such an...assertive...culture. Indeed you are! But I'm also an assertive sort of chap, so I will say: Yes! I will edit those bits that I feel are lacking, and work on the assumption that others will be doing the same! Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On 08/27/2015 10:41 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: You did the obvious, and restarted LC after placing the plugin right? If you didn't restart lc, and you don't want to, an easy way to force a re-read of the plugins folder is to go into the plugin settings. You don't have to do anything, just going to the settings dialog forced the re-read. I looked in the settings dialogue as you suggested, and there it is, but it still does not up in the Plugins menu; instead it loads as a small palette. Thanks. Richmond. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/27/2015 09:02 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:03 AM, RunRevPlanet wrote: None of my comments are from the perspective that enabling LiveCode to use an external editor is a bad thing. So we agree then. As Richard said, choice is a good thing. More that for a cross platform IDE, written in it's supported language, to have an inadequate text editor is a very bad look Again, we agree. and turns programmers away. Only if they don't have a choice to use something better. Choice is useful only so long as it's a choice, rather than a requirement. It would hardly be an INTEGRATED development environment if it didn't have a script editor. Moreover, a script editor is a very good example of the sort of thing LiveCode can do very well. And best of all, AFAIK no one in the company is thinking about shipping LC without a script editor. Given all this, making the current script editor robust and performant would logically seem among the highest priorities, since a good SE makes the product a joy to use and a poor SE makes LC look bad. In short, the choice is to either make more money or less, to the degree that the SE is solid and enjoyable. After all, it's the one part of the IDE everyone uses most often. Along the way, reinstating an updated version of MetaCard's support for external editors would be useful AS AN OPTION, and probably something the community could deliver. To make the latter work well we'll want formatting and colorization plugins for as many third party editors as we can make them for - again, best done by the community since each of us has our own favorite so each of us may be motivated to write a LiveCode add-on for it. This page at Ken Ray's site discusses how external editors can be used in LC, with links to various LC-specific modules (though some of these may need to be updated): http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm Well: I've just downloaded the stsMLXEditor and placed it in the /livecodecommunity-7.0.6 (x86_64)/Plugins/ folder and it does not show up in /Development/Plugins in the 7.0.6 menu . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
A question about differences in performance between Mac and Windows
Hi list I have a standalone used as a frontal for requests to a DB. The results are compressed and base64encoded by a LC script on the server, and the standalone displays them in a table field after base64decode and decompress. On Mac, the process takes 0.25 second to 1 second (when the amount of data is important). On Windows 7, it takes at least 3 to 4 secs, no matter how much data. Is there any rational explanation for that, and possibly a way to speed up things on Windows ? My guess is that some system librairies are called for base64decode and decompress, which are significantly slower on Windows... Thanks jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: I was bored one evening (in my spare time) and decided to explore adding new syntax highlighting rules to Atom. Now wonder the story isn't more exciting. You really need to get out more ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 08/28/2015 12:28 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/28/2015 12:21 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 28/08/2015 10:11, Richmond wrote: On 08/28/2015 10:28 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote: You can make better use of Git by downloading the repository onto your own machine. I was able to do that quite easily by following this https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ I have no doubt that you will breeze though the process. I very much doubt it: I downloaded GIT, told GIT my name ('richmond'), told GIT my email ('richmondmathew...@gmail.com'), and then got stuck: https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git/#next-steps-authenticating-with-github-from-git so; where is GIT Exactly which step are you stuck on? Peter https://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url-should-i-use/#cloning-with-https-recommended When you view a repository while signed in to your account First of all, where do I find the GIT interface on my computer so that I can log into it, or, for the sake of argument, how can I log into the GitHub using Atom (which I installed just before breakfast), clone stuff and get to work? Richmond. Or, put another way; will Atom work as a Git GUI? I am downloading a selection of Linux Git GUIs which all look far more primitive than Atom . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS scrolling groups problem?
I have a problem with an iOS scroller on a group. It seems to somehow make the app non-reactive (locked up) after some resizeStack messages where I change the layout from portrait to landscape. I *suspect* that it may be when setting the vScroll of the group - but not totally sure and so far have not been able to track it down. Has anyone else noticed something similar? Am using LC 6.7.6. Debugging mobile is still really a pain at times... cheers Alan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On 28/08/2015 09:17, Kay C Lan wrote: I don't use Atom but from some recent posting it appears that some kind of LC/Atom connection has been made. I wonder if that may have been driven by the amount of time the LC Team spend at Github and Atom is the Github team developed Text Editor? Guess I better check it out. I'm afraid the story isn't that exciting... I was bored one evening (in my spare time) and decided to explore adding new syntax highlighting rules to Atom. Then the LCB package sort of happened, then people started using it. I use Emacs as my primary editor. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team LiveCode on reddit: https://reddit.com/r/livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 08/28/2015 12:21 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 28/08/2015 10:11, Richmond wrote: On 08/28/2015 10:28 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote: You can make better use of Git by downloading the repository onto your own machine. I was able to do that quite easily by following this https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ I have no doubt that you will breeze though the process. I very much doubt it: I downloaded GIT, told GIT my name ('richmond'), told GIT my email ('richmondmathew...@gmail.com'), and then got stuck: https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git/#next-steps-authenticating-with-github-from-git so; where is GIT Exactly which step are you stuck on? Peter https://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url-should-i-use/#cloning-with-https-recommended When you view a repository while signed in to your account First of all, where do I find the GIT interface on my computer so that I can log into it, or, for the sake of argument, how can I log into the GitHub using Atom (which I installed just before breakfast), clone stuff and get to work? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote: One of the promoted strengths of LiveCode is that it is live coding. In other words I can make a change in my script and immediately see the effect. Now while I understand the virtues of using the external text editor of your choice. With your example of XCode and an external editor, is it possible to set breakpoints and single step through the code in your preferred external editor? Well yes and no. As has already been pointed out, because of the long standing undercurrent that people have longed for a SE with better text manipulation capabilities, several attempts have been made by individuals to achieve that. I've used Ken's stsMLXEditor a long time ago and it allowed me to use my favourite text editor which allowed me to place breakpoints anywhere I wanted. Like GLX2, which I like very much, they both handed back debugging to Rev/LC. I have no problem with that - Text Editor for text manipulation, debugger for debugging. The problem though, was that stsMLXEditor was a bit of a patch job which needed a better mechanism to track the changes and transfer those back and forth - that improvement can only be done from the mothership. GLX2 used an improved mechanism but only bought a handful of improved Text Editing tools to the table - better than the inbuilt SE but no match for my favourite. What both of these proved is that it is possible. I don't use Atom but from some recent posting it appears that some kind of LC/Atom connection has been made. I wonder if that may have been driven by the amount of time the LC Team spend at Github and Atom is the Github team developed Text Editor? Guess I better check it out. And just to be clear, I've never suggested that LC should not have an SE, it most definitely must, and as Richmond has suggested it's lack of bloat is probably ideal for the new to programming or hobbyist level programmer. My comments have only suggested the ability to use an external TE would be a worthwhile enhancement as it would mean 'professional' programmers might feel a little more comfortable and be a little more productive using tools they are already familiar with. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I would be most interested to see a *coherent and numbered list* of these issues rather than a chorus of people saying how awful the scriptEditor is. Off the top of my head: 1) copy paste via keyboard How many times have you copied from somewhere external and you can't use the keyboard to paste it into LC. Either you need to use the mouse+menu or the data isn't even there - in which case I find myself pasting the data into a text editor, copying it again and then pasting into LC. (this is more a long standing bug of LC and not just the SE) 2) customiseable keyboard shortcuts It's just nice and convenient to be able to allocate ANY of EVERY single menu item a keyboard shortcut. Time saver. 3) more script space, less wasted space Because the SE doubles as the debugger it has a LOT of wasted space. I want my SE to be 90% text, the rest tools and nicities, like my TE. I want my debugger sort of the opposite, 40% script and the rest debugging info - typically I can't see enough variable values. As someone else pointed out, why can't I view Variables and breakpoints concurently when debugging? Why does the Error message need as much space as the Variable viewer? I've never seen one that's taken up more than two lines, and even then it could all be displayed on one line. Effecient workspace. 4) autocompletion The flexibility of not using explicit variables with the safety net of spelling them correctly all the time. Time saver. 5) spellchecking Can load custom dictionaries so whilst mine generally checks I spell colour correctly, for LC work I can make sure I spell it the other way. Time saver. 6) boilerplates I can type in switch and a little popup will come up with switch3, switch3d, switch4, switch4d,... switch9, switch9d. I can either click on one or type switch5d and press return and a bare switch statement with 5 case entries will be created for me including the default structure. If I didn't specify the d at the end, no default structure is included. Actually 99% of the time I use the switch default structure as a place to catch logic errors so my boiler place includes: default answer A Case I Haven't Considered. Check the Variables. titled Switch Case Error breakpoint end switch All typed out for me automatically. Time Saver 7) Inbuilt scripting Strange that for a scripting language this is listed. Take this SQL statement: SELECT * FROM table WHERE f1 = AA AND f2 = BB AND f3 = DD if I need to do this: put SELECT * FROM table WHERE f1 = AA AND f2 = BB AND f3 = DD into tQuery it will not work because of the quotes in SQL have a different meaning to LC so I need to replace all those with quote - except the first and last . Yes, I appreciate I could do it manually with Find and Replace but that's slow, or I can modify LC to allow me to run a script to do that selective replacement similar to what I do in my TE, but I'm just surprised at how much easier it is to do im my TE and just a keystroke a way. Time saver. 8) folding The ability to collapse a handler, control structure, multiline comments down to a single line - an absolute godsend. Again I want the text I'm interested in to cover 90% or more of my screen. So many times, portions of what I'm focusing on are spread over just more than what is displayed in the SE - why is that? Copy and paste into my TE and most of the time I'm sweet, but often enough I wish I was able to collapse a 5 case switch statments down to a single line and remove the 4 line comment because then what I need to be looking at would all be viewable. Can be done with other languages. You wont appreciate it until you've used it. 9) bracket pairing How many times has your code been in error because of a mismatch in brackets? Every TE worth it's salt provides some sort of indication of bracket pairing, not just whilst you type the brackets, but also you can come back and click on a bracket and it's mate will be hilighted. Also, an unmatched bracket is highlited immediately, not when you go to Apply/Save. Time saver. 10) search and replace remembered The last 10 searches and replacements are stored, although I think that's only because I set it to 10. As most of my search and replace are regex, and I'm NOT very good at it, having these saved is extremely convenient. Nice feature. 11) regex search pattern validation Any serious work with text will at some time require a bit of regex. Whilst building regex search and replace patterns my TE automatically validates the code. To be fair, LC has a built in Regex Builder so you can test your regex prior to use, but this isn't quite as nice as having it automatically check your Find or Replace box entry. Nice feature 12) regex manual Because I don't do too much regex, unless it's very basic I always need to refer to a syntax manual. My TE has one built
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 28/08/2015 10:11, Richmond wrote: On 08/28/2015 10:28 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote: You can make better use of Git by downloading the repository onto your own machine. I was able to do that quite easily by following this https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ I have no doubt that you will breeze though the process. I very much doubt it: I downloaded GIT, told GIT my name ('richmond'), told GIT my email ('richmondmathew...@gmail.com'), and then got stuck: https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git/#next-steps-authenticating-with-github-from-git so; where is GIT Exactly which step are you stuck on? Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team LiveCode on reddit: https://reddit.com/r/livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On 08/28/2015 01:30 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I would be most interested to see a *coherent and numbered list* of these issues rather than a chorus of people saying how awful the scriptEditor is. Off the top of my head: 1) copy paste via keyboard How many times have you copied from somewhere external and you can't use the keyboard to paste it into LC. Either you need to use the mouse+menu or the data isn't even there - in which case I find myself pasting the data into a text editor, copying it again and then pasting into LC. (this is more a long standing bug of LC and not just the SE) Something very odd indeed on the Linux side: I can not copy script directly into an office suite or the ThunderBird e-mail client (which I would like to be able to do):I have to copy-paste into a bog-basic text editor, and then copy-paste from the text editor into whatever, losing all the contextual colouring along the way. My point of comparison is with LC 4.5 on a PPC Mac running 10.5.7, where I can copy-paste back-and-forth to my heart's content into Appleworks 6 or Clarisworks 5 keeping colourisation. 2) customiseable keyboard shortcuts It's just nice and convenient to be able to allocate ANY of EVERY single menu item a keyboard shortcut. Time saver. Not sure if that is the scriptEditor as such, or the IDE in general. 3) more script space, less wasted space Because the SE doubles as the debugger it has a LOT of wasted space. I want my SE to be 90% text, the rest tools and nicities, like my TE. I want my debugger sort of the opposite, 40% script and the rest debugging info - typically I can't see enough variable values. As someone else pointed out, why can't I view Variables and breakpoints concurently when debugging? Why does the Error message need as much space as the Variable viewer? I've never seen one that's taken up more than two lines, and even then it could all be displayed on one line. Effecient workspace. You can drag the sections about: I normally have my scriptEditortaking up almost everything except for 1 line of the debugger. 4) autocompletion The flexibility of not using explicit variables with the safety net of spelling them correctly all the time. Time saver. Yes and No: I turn off autocompletion in my office suites as do not like the things second-guessing my intentions; especially as the suggestions are often-as-not different to my intentions. 5) spellchecking Can load custom dictionaries so whilst mine generally checks I spell colour correctly, for LC work I can make sure I spell it the other way. Time saver. Yuck. Maybe JUST for LiveCode reserved words, so the thing doesn't get in the way of words such as 'colour' and 'sceptical'. 6) boilerplates I can type in switch and a little popup will come up with switch3, switch3d, switch4, switch4d,... switch9, switch9d. I can either click on one or type switch5d and press return and a bare switch statement with 5 case entries will be created for me including the default structure. If I didn't specify the d at the end, no default structure is included. Actually 99% of the time I use the switch default structure as a place to catch logic errors so my boiler place includes: default answer A Case I Haven't Considered. Check the Variables. titled Switch Case Error breakpoint end switch All typed out for me automatically. Time Saver 7) Inbuilt scripting Strange that for a scripting language this is listed. Take this SQL statement: SELECT * FROM table WHERE f1 = AA AND f2 = BB AND f3 = DD if I need to do this: put SELECT * FROM table WHERE f1 = AA AND f2 = BB AND f3 = DD into tQuery it will not work because of the quotes in SQL have a different meaning to LC so I need to replace all those with quote - except the first and last . Yes, I appreciate I could do it manually with Find and Replace but that's slow, or I can modify LC to allow me to run a script to do that selective replacement similar to what I do in my TE, but I'm just surprised at how much easier it is to do im my TE and just a keystroke a way. Time saver. Indeed, that whole thing about 'quote' is a major pain in the bum. 8) folding The ability to collapse a handler, control structure, multiline comments down to a single line - an absolute godsend. Again I want the text I'm interested in to cover 90% or more of my screen. So many times, portions of what I'm focusing on are spread over just more than what is displayed in the SE - why is that? Copy and paste into my TE and most of the time I'm sweet, but often enough I wish I was able to collapse a 5 case switch statments down to a single line and remove the 4 line comment because then what I need to be looking at would all be viewable. Can be done with other languages. You wont appreciate it until you've used it. 9) bracket pairing
RE: iOS scrolling groups problem?
Would you post your resizeStack script From: alanstenho...@hotmail.com Subject: iOS scrolling groups problem? Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:06:08 +0200 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com I have a problem with an iOS scroller on a group. It seems to somehow make the app non-reactive (locked up) after some resizeStack messages where I change the layout from portrait to landscape. I *suspect* that it may be when setting the vScroll of the group - but not totally sure and so far have not been able to track it down. Has anyone else noticed something similar? Am using LC 6.7.6. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]
On 08/28/2015 10:28 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote: On 28 Aug 2015, at 15:15, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Well: as an almost complete newcomer to Github, I would be grateful if you could outline a way to edit the documents at https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides and submit them after the editing . . . does this involve setting up my own github branch Yes. You will need a Github account and then fork the Github repository. You can then edit the documents on-line. Once you have finished editing the documents, you will need to create a Pull Request. The LiveCode team will then decide whether to accept or decline your changes. One thing that is needed for your changes to be accepted is to for you to enter into a contributor’s agreement http://livecode.com/account/developer/contribute http://livecode.com/account/developer/contribute You can make better use of Git by downloading the repository onto your own machine. I was able to do that quite easily by following this https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ https://help.github.com/categories/bootcamp/ I have no doubt that you will breeze though the process. I very much doubt it: I downloaded GIT, told GIT my name ('richmond'), told GIT my email ('richmondmathew...@gmail.com'), and then got stuck: https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git/#next-steps-authenticating-with-github-from-git so; where is GIT Richmond. Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A question about differences in performance between Mac and Windows
Are the machines equal in CPU, network card, connection speed, etc.? Is the PC real or virtual on the Mac? What is the database type? On Aug 28, 2015 5:34 AM, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Hi list I have a standalone used as a frontal for requests to a DB. The results are compressed and base64encoded by a LC script on the server, and the standalone displays them in a table field after base64decode and decompress. On Mac, the process takes 0.25 second to 1 second (when the amount of data is important). On Windows 7, it takes at least 3 to 4 secs, no matter how much data. Is there any rational explanation for that, and possibly a way to speed up things on Windows ? My guess is that some system librairies are called for base64decode and decompress, which are significantly slower on Windows... Thanks jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3
Hi James, The format is indeed not straight markdown but more like YAML. The Description element is the only part of it which is straight markdown. You can find a complete description of the format in the Extending Livecode guide in the dictionary, in the Specifications section. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:02 PM James Hale ja...@thehales.id.au wrote: I too was interested in helping with the documentation but am a tad confused about its format. It is not quite straight markdown, at least as far as any markdown editors I have put it through. Also I had a look at the viewer.html and was blown away at how complicated it was. Not that we need to deal with it, but given that it doesn't quite seem to be able to translate the markdown of the documentation fully perhaps we need more info on the required formatting. As an example have a look at what it does to the htmltext entry. Things are fine until halfway through it and then things go awry. BTW the JavaScript for the dictionary uses a hover function for the found entries. Lovely effect on a desktop, disaster on a touch device. Surely I am not the only one who likes to use a touch device to read the web, and yes, the documentation. James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A question about differences in performance between Mac and Windows
Are the machines equal in CPU, network card, connection speed, etc.? Is the PC real or virtual on the Mac? What is the database type? On Aug 28, 2015 5:34 AM, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: yes, the machines are pretty similar in terms of hardware, and in my tests both the iMac and the PC (real) are connected in the same way to the same adsl box. Besides, I have several clients using the same app on iMac or Win7 on various connections in various cities nationwide, and they all experience the same difference in performance... jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Mail and Sage - Problem sending
Is anyone else having a problem sending email from Sage..? I can suddenly receive mail but I can't send it... I keep getting the standard Mail Delivery Failed - Will Try Again message. This happens with ALL email I send from Sage. Does anyone know the support email address for On-Rev..? I keep sending (from a different email) to on-...@runrev.com but not getting any response. Thanks Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is this - is anyone making money?
I have not commercially distributed anything I have written. I have however written apps for the work I do for my company. They recently decided to adopt my Forms Generator in their workflow, which makes me somewhat of a needed commodity for them. I'm not sure how to put a price on that. I have purchased Livecode over the years, ever since Revolution 2.0, because it is in my interests for RunRev to continue to support this product, else I am completely out of the software development business. I simply do not have the time or patience to use other products. Bob S On Aug 19, 2015, at 13:45 , Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.demailto:matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: I am pretty sure there are many who made and still make money with Livecode apps. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
Kay C Lan wrote: The problem though, was that stsMLXEditor was a bit of a patch job which needed a better mechanism to track the changes and transfer those back and forth - that improvement can only be done from the mothership. What's needed? Let's make it so. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SFTP support [was: Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app]
It is also , unfortunately, the abbreviation for Simple File Transfer Protocol: Simple File Transfer Protocol Simple File Transfer Protocol (the second protocol abbreviated SFTP), as defined by RFC 913, was proposed as an (unsecured) file transfer protocol with a level of complexity intermediate between TFTP and FTP. It was never widely accepted on the Internet, and is now assigned Historic status by the IETF. It runs through port 115, and often receives the initialism of SFTP. It has a command set of 11 commands and support three types of data transmission: ASCII, binary and continuous. For systems with a word size that is a multiple of 8 bits, the implementation of binary and continuous is the same. The protocol also supports login with user ID and password, hierarchical folders and file management (including rename, delete, upload, download, download with overwrite, and download with append). Who is running this circus anyway? ;-) Bob S On Aug 18, 2015, at 14:33 , Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: SFTP is not FTPS or FTP. It's an unrelated file transfer protocol that runs over Secure Shell (SSH). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Quick Challenge
Stop showing off Richmond! ;-P Bob S On Aug 27, 2015, at 08:39 , Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of clever answers . . . Now try with this text: Քրիստոնէութեան սկիզբը Հայոց համար եղաւ նաեւ մտքի լուսաւորութեան սկիզբնաւորութիւնը. Մեր մէջ առաջին դպրոցները Լուսաւորչի աշխատանքով հաստատուեցան: Սակայն Սուրբ Գրիգորի հիմնած դպրոցները ազգային կրթութեան համար չէին եւ չէին ալ կրնար ըլլալ, նախ այն պատճառով` որ այնտեղ տրուած ուսումը օտար (ասորերէն եւ յունարէն) լեզուներով էր, եւ երկրորդ` անոր համար որ անոնց գլխաւոր նպատակն էր Աւետարանի քարոզիչներ եւ եկեղեցական պաշտօնեաներ պատրաստել Before anyone asks, this is Armenian. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: screen readers
I have a bin like that. Mine is more like those tiny little circular cans under most people's desk. Yours is probably the size of New York. Bob S On Aug 26, 2015, at 13:14 , Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.commailto:li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: For me it is one of those things that I would like to have but isn't absolutely necessary. That means it sits in that little bin In my brain marked Maybe someday -- Trevor DeVore ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC8 IDE publish-and-subscribe
On 08/28/2015 02:31 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: Oops, didn't see the Q part of the message! Yes, your assumption is correct. Great! That's exciting! (and that's the first time I've said that about LC8) -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: embed CR in constant
On 08/28/2015 07:47 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: constant embedCRInConstant = aCRb throws an error. Suggestions? I first logged this as a bug in 2004. (http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1241) The current bug number is 12802, and the other reports (1241, 3680, 8737, 13955) have been resolved as duplicates of that one, although the resolved status of the many bug reports is somewhat in question. You can now use negative numbers as constants. That seems to be fixed in build 7.0-rc1. Otherwise constants can only be strings or numbers. The way I get around this is by defining ersatzConstants: local kConstantButNotReally = -- initialize it in preOpenStack put some_value into kConstantButNotReally -- then treat it like a constant -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
Oh, and just a slight tangent. I've seen it mentioned before but it hadn't really registered until I was playing with LC8 yesterday, but the new 'Script only Stack' would seem to be the perfect beast to offer up as a guinea pig for Text Editor integration. If my assumptions* are correct (unlikely) then there will be only a single block of text involved which would greatly simplify the tracking and sync process. Get TE Integration to work on Script only Stacks first, and once sorted, move on to any stack. *I'm assuming there are no objects, so you can't have button, field, front or back scripts. No card script? Is there ONLY one stack script? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ATTN: Mario Noto
My PowerDebug update email announcement to you bounced. Please send me updated contact info to be notified of releases. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ATTN: Ed Gore
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Re: embed CR in constant
On 08/28/2015 09:31 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: on MouseUp get A CR B constant embedCRInConstant = it end mouseUp No. You can't do that. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: a better mechanism to track the changes and transfer those back and forth - that improvement can only be done from the mothership. What's needed? Let's make it so. Love the positive attitude :-) From memory stsMLXEditor was written when the SE was a seperate animal to the Debugger, hence: The external editor will not open a script if the IDE script editor window is open. I think when the SE and Debugger merged stsMLXEditor became less useful because it was no longer possible to have just the Debugger open and my TE. I haven't had a look for quite a while, so maybe I need to give it another whirl and see - although it looks as though a few others are giving it a go so maybe they'll come up with some constructive criticisms. And in the interest of Full Disclosure, when I said 'Well yes and no' to my TE letting me add breakpoints, the Yes was because 99.9% of the time I use breakpoint hard coded in my scripts. I've played with Red Dots but I've had them ignored on too many occasions so I've given up on them and just use breakpoint. I appreciate that others use the Red Dots all the time and have far more success with them. I appreciate that they are far more powerful that a hard coded breakpoint because they can be conditional. So there would need to be a way to implement Red Dots for those who like them. IMO, basic Red Dots are the same as a hard breakpoint. In my TE I type cmd-B and I get breakpoint typed out for me - it's faster than grabbing the mouse and clicking on the screen. As a suggestion, conditional waypoints would require something like typing out: breakpointCondtional if tVar = garbage then breakpoint. In this case it would require the LC Team to parse breakpointConditional into a Conditional Red Dot. And vice versa. I think at the moment Red Dots are probably the biggest issue because if you modify blocks of script that contain Red Dots, with blocks of text with a different line count, then the Red Dots are deactivated and typically will no longer match the line they were originally attached to. As you've noted, colourisation is a personal thing. Some find it distracting, others helpful. My TE currently doesn't have the same colourisation capabilities as the SE does so it would be nice if brought into line. I understand Peter added LC colourisation to the Atom Editor. Again I need to have a look at that some time. Interestingly, whilst I normally do like colourisation, when ever I do get a very long script line that fails due to some misplaced , a quick copy and paste in to my TE quickly reveals the culprit because the more basic colourisation of my TE allows the error to be pinpointed more quickly. If my TE matched the SE colourisation, then this wouldn't work. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button Names on top of their icon?
Hi Bramanatha: iconGravity is documented -- the property isn't part of the inspector, but you can look it up in the Dictionary (I see it was introduced in 6.7). Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/28/15, 8:17 PM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote: @ Scott: iconGravity: wow... undocumented feature and this really should be exposed in the button inspector.. it works. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button Names on top of their icon?
@ Scott: iconGravity: wow... undocumented feature and this really should be exposed in the button inspector.. it works. @ Paul: setting the pattern works. So far so good, but but the issue is also the vertical alignment of the button name: Solution: Set the pattern to the image... set the rect of the button to exactly the rect of the image and you will clean up any appearance of the image repeated along the edges (it's a pattern); then use the textProperty/margins of the button to position the name to center it on the button. hurray! Long story: In both cases.. the default vertical center line of the name of the button is shifted down from the actual vertical center of the button itself -- and, now, the icon therein. The engine algorithm seems to be: hang the text from the top of the m height (top of the lower case letters) on the center line of the button. this seems to be, from my tests sticky , ... as you change size of the type for the name... it consistently places the text with the top of the lower case letters aligned to the vertical center of the button Now... we have this in the dictionary as a possible way to tweak positioning in the iconGravity entry... but it does not help us if you use iconGravity... Comments: The margins and borderWidth are taken into account when rendering the icon - the rectangle the icon is placed in is taken to be the button rect after subtracting margins and borderWidth all the way round. But it does not affect the text position. but if you use the pattern then setting the button textProperty margin gives us what we want as documented under the dictionary entry for margins : Use the margins property to control how close text within a button or field can come to the object's edges, how close objects in a group can come to the group's edges, and how the label of a graphic is displayed. I wonder if it the button name position holds across platforms... BR Paul Hibbert wrote: If the image is the correct size for the button, you can assign it to the backgroundPattern (fill) instead of the icon. Paul - hide quoted text -- show quoted text - On Aug 27, 2015, at 21:22, Brahmanathaswamibra...@hindu.org wrote: Is there some way to get a button name to be centered on top of it's icon? This is a context where the icon is designed to be a background for the button and the center area is clear, plain, flat colored and meant to take the button label. Of course can import the image and put a transparent button on top, but ideally we could center the button name on top of the icon itself... but I can't find a way to do that... is there a way? BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ANN: PowerDebug 1.1.17
I have released a new version of PowerDebug. It's been two years since it's needed an update, but it's revision time, due to some minor incompatibilities with LiveCode 7.x and 8.x. This release fixes a problem when quitting on OSX after a debugging session. Apparently frontscripts are now removed from memory at an earlier time than in previous releases, on OSX only. Also fixed a problem where fields were not getting initialized properly the first time an error occurred. Nobody reported it as a problem, so I guess it hasn't bothered anyone but me. But it's fixed. Also updated for LC7/8 is the initial variable display was empty on a runtime error. This is now fixed and hopefully future-proof. From the Release Notes : Fixed segfault on OSX when quitting LC7 IDE after debug session Copy button is no longer a default button Fixed tab setting for Global and Environment vars display Moved Error Display code from preOpenStack to Openstack to initialize fields Documentation is at http://powerdebug.ahsoftware.net http://www.ahsoftware.net/PowerTools/BuyPowerDebug.irev -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC8 IDE publish-and-subscribe
The new LC8 IDE implements the publish-and-subscribe pattern, but it looks like it isn't designed to be extensible. It's extensible right now because revIDEMessageIsValid() always returns true. Q: assuming that the validity check was an interim test to make sure the IDE didn't fall on its face, can we rely on this mechanism as a way to register callback events in the IDE, and thus extend and modify the IDE? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mail and Sage - Problem sending
LOL... I understand. I have sent a few emails over the past few days... Usually I get a ticket in my email within 10 minutes of submitting problems in the past... This time..? Nothing. I just sent one through the the link that Matthias sent and I received a trouble ticket so all is well (sort of) in my world. On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: On 2015-08-28 22:47, PystCat wrote: Thanks Matthias. I know the Mother Ship is usually up on things so I never like to bother them with stuff I don't consider THAT urgent. I do use the email address for more business issues but since I am receiving email I am (somewhat) fine with just letting them know... I think I will use (and save) that link to contact them. Thanks. It may not seem like it some times, but I think we'd generally prefer to get told about a problem multiple times than not get told about it at all! Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Open Source Team LiveCode on reddit! https://reddit.com/r/livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mail and Sage - Problem sending
Thanks Matthias. I know the Mother Ship is usually up on things so I never like to bother them with stuff I don't consider THAT urgent. I do use the email address for more business issues but since I am receiving email I am (somewhat) fine with just letting them know... I think I will use (and save) that link to contact them. Thanks. On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Paul, did you sent your support request with URGENT in the subject line? Use your email address which is set in cPanel for communication. You could also use the contact form at http://www.on-rev.com/support/contact-us/ to send such a request. Select “Emergency support request” for the subject. Such support request are answered within 2 hrs or so. Please be aware, that such urgent requests should only be sent if the server is not working or is not working properly or is causing trouble But i would say, being not able to send email is an urgent support case. Matthias Am 28.08.2015 um 22:24 schrieb PystCat pyst...@gmail.com: Thanks Andy. I've sent a few tickets and one to Heather.. I don't like sending to her about On-Rev stuff but I figured she would forward on. My problem is I haven't heard back from anyone... And I'm still out on the water without a paddle. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mail and Sage - Problem sending
On 2015-08-28 22:47, PystCat wrote: Thanks Matthias. I know the Mother Ship is usually up on things so I never like to bother them with stuff I don't consider THAT urgent. I do use the email address for more business issues but since I am receiving email I am (somewhat) fine with just letting them know... I think I will use (and save) that link to contact them. Thanks. It may not seem like it some times, but I think we'd generally prefer to get told about a problem multiple times than not get told about it at all! Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Open Source Team LiveCode on reddit! https://reddit.com/r/livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mail and Sage - Problem sending
Thanks Andy. I've sent a few tickets and one to Heather.. I don't like sending to her about On-Rev stuff but I figured she would forward on. My problem is I haven't heard back from anyone... And I'm still out on the water without a paddle. On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:54 PM, AndyP smudge.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Paul, I've had problems on sage sending and mail forwarding for a while now. Contacted support 2 days back and have received a reply today saying that work has been carried out on the server ?? However the problems seem to have been fixed for me so hopefully the server changes will also have a positive effect for you. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: Get Copy Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Mail-and-Sage-Problem-sending-tp4695693p4695710.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mail and Sage - Problem sending
Thanks Howard. I'll try resending to the support at on-rev again. On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: I've seen that and supp...@on-rev.com. I'm on Sage but I don't use their SMTP server so I can't help you out there. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:01 AM, PystCat pyst...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else having a problem sending email from Sage..? I can suddenly receive mail but I can't send it... I keep getting the standard Mail Delivery Failed - Will Try Again message. This happens with ALL email I send from Sage. Does anyone know the support email address for On-Rev..? I keep sending (from a different email) to on-...@runrev.com but not getting any response. Thanks Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode