Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Please send me the final version of the logo privately and I'll update the
website and manuals accordingly.

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Roberta Marton <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> It has been more than 72 hours and we have received many replies.
>
> Logo #13 has been approved.
>
>
>
> Voting results:
>
>
>
> +1 votes for 13: 27
>
> +1 votes for 4g: 2
>
> +0 votes: 0
>
> -1 votes: 0
>
>
>
> If my calculations are correct:
>
>
>
> 13 votes include:
>
>
>
> Roberta,  Gunnar, Hans, Sandhya, Trina, Qifan, Ming, Clr, Seth, Henry,
> Wei-shung, Rachael, Carol, Rohit, Venkat,
>
> Anu, Arvind, Dennis, Jason, Dave, Amanda, Selva, Ken, Narendra, Atanu,
> Prashanth, Sean
>
>
>
> 4g votes include:
>
>
>
> Elaine, Alex
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking time to comment on all our previous proposals and for
> voting on these last two entries.
>
> Thanks also to everyone who submitted entries and revised them from
> suggestions by our users.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Roberta
>
>
>
> *From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com
> <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
> *To:* 'user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org' <
> user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
>
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos
> fondly known as  4g and 13.
>
> Both have been attached for your reference
>
>
>
> Please respond as follows:
>
>
>
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
>
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
>
> [ ] +0 no opinion
>
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Roberta Marton
>
>
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Sean Broeder]

+1 for 13



Sean



*From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal



There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.

It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly
known as  4g and 13.

Both have been attached for your reference



Please respond as follows:



[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g

[ ] +1-13 approve option 13

[ ] +0 no opinion

[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)



The vote will be open for 72 hours.



   Regards,

   Roberta Marton

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Prashanth Vasudev]

+1 for option 13



*From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal



There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.

It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly
known as  4g and 13.

Both have been attached for your reference



Please respond as follows:



[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g

[ ] +1-13 approve option 13

[ ] +0 no opinion

[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)



The vote will be open for 72 hours.



   Regards,

   Roberta Marton

Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Atanu Mishra]

+1-13


Atanu Mishra

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Roberta Marton 
wrote:

> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
>
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos
> fondly known as  4g and 13.
>
> Both have been attached for your reference
>
>
>
> Please respond as follows:
>
>
>
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
>
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
>
> [ ] +0 no opinion
>
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Roberta Marton
>
>
>

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[到 财神]

+1-13 approve option
13

Best regards,Jason

 


From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]


Sent: 2016年2月19日 10:02

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Subject: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal


 
There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
known as  4g and 13. 

Both have been attached for your reference
 
Please respond as follows:
 
[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
[ ] +1-13 approve option 13
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
 
The vote will be open for 72 hours.
 
   Regards,
   Roberta Marton
 
  

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Venkat Muthuswamy]

*+1 for option 13*

*Venkat*

 Original message 
From: Roberta Marton <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com>
Date: 02/18/2016 8:01 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.

It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly
known as  4g and 13.

Both have been attached for your reference



Please respond as follows:



[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g

[ ] +1-13 approve option 13

[ ] +0 no opinion

[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)



The vote will be open for 72 hours.



   Regards,

   Roberta Marton

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Rohit]

+1-13
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Roberta Marton <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com> 
Date: 02/18/2016  8:01 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal 

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.It has now come time for a formal vote on the 
two most popular logos fondly known as  4g and 13.  Both have been attached for 
your reference Please respond as follows: [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g[ ] +1-13 
approve option 13[ ] +0 no opinion[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) The vote 
will be open for 72 hours.    Regards,   Roberta Marton 

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Gao, Rui-Xian (Rachel)]

+1 for 13.

Thanks
Rachel

发件人: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月19日 10:02
收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
known as  4g and 13.
Both have been attached for your reference

Please respond as follows:

[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
[ ] +1-13 approve option 13
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

   Regards,
   Roberta Marton

Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Lin, Hai (Henry)]

+1 for 13

Henry

 iPhone

? 2016?2?1910:02?Roberta Marton 
> ???

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
known as  4g and 13.
Both have been attached for your reference

Please respond as follows:

[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
[ ] +1-13 approve option 13
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

   Regards,
   Roberta Marton

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Wang, Ling (Elaine)]

[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g


Ø  Reason:
Logo – It’s cute and easy to remember. And it also has a good meaning. 
Kylin/Dragon is a legend of the beast in traditional Chinese myth. It 
represents the gods, heaven, emperror and all powerful symbol.
Font – Clear and beautiful and not lose professional.


Ø  Question:
Esygn’s color is Orange, Black and White. Why here we draw Kylin and Apache 
font in blue? (But generally Kylin is shown as blue or golden in story.)
 [cid:image003.jpg@01D16B08.16CEFF70]

Thanks & Best Regards.
王  玲   Wang, Ling (Elaine )

Esgyn China
上海易鲸捷信息技术有限公司
Mobile +86 01 5921 254982
Email ling.w...@esgyn.cn<mailto:ling.w...@esgyn.cn>
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发件人: Jin, Jian (Seth)
发送时间: 2016年2月19日 10:43
收件人: Esgyn China Engineering <engineer...@esgyn.cn<mailto:engineer...@esgyn.cn>>
主题: FW: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

Hi all,

Now it comes formal vote for Trafodion Logo!
Pls spend  a couple of seconds and vote for your preference.

Note: Send your opinion directly to 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>

Br,

Seth

From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
Sent: 2016年2月19日 10:02
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
known as  4g and 13.
Both have been attached for your reference

Please respond as follows:

[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
[ ] +1-13 approve option 13
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

   Regards,
   Roberta Marton

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Jin, Jian (Seth)]

+1 for 13.

Br,

Seth

From: Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
Sent: 2016年2月19日 11:07
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

+1 for 13

-clr


From: Roberta Marton 
[mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com<mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com>]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
known as  4g and 13.
Both have been attached for your reference

Please respond as follows:

[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
[ ] +1-13 approve option 13
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

   Regards,
   Roberta Marton

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Christophe LeRouzo]

+1 for 13



-clr





*From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal



There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.

It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly
known as  4g and 13.

Both have been attached for your reference



Please respond as follows:



[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g

[ ] +1-13 approve option 13

[ ] +0 no opinion

[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)



The vote will be open for 72 hours.



   Regards,

   Roberta Marton

答复: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Liu, Ming (Ming)]

+1 for 13

Very good drawing, looking forward the dragon to be born.

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月19日 10:02
收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
known as  4g and 13.
Both have been attached for your reference

Please respond as follows:

[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
[ ] +1-13 approve option 13
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

   Regards,
   Roberta Marton

Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Qifan Chen]

+1 for 13.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Trina Krug  wrote:

> +1 for 13
>
> Trina
>
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Roberta Marton 
> wrote:
>
> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
>
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos
> fondly known as  4g and 13.
>
> Both have been attached for your reference
>
>
>
> Please respond as follows:
>
>
>
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
>
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
>
> [ ] +0 no opinion
>
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Roberta Marton
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>


-- 
Regards, --Qifan

Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Trina Krug]

+1 for 13

Trina 

> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Roberta Marton  wrote:
> 
> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the 
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly 
> known as  4g and 13. 
> Both have been attached for your reference
>  
> Please respond as follows:
>  
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>  
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>  
>Regards,
>Roberta Marton
>  
> 
> 

RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Sandhya Sundaresan]

+1 for 13



*From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:25 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal



+1 for 13


Hans



On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 for 13.



On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Roberta Marton <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

+1 for 13



   Roberta



*From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
*To:* 'user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org' <
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal



There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
proposed Apache Trafodion logos.

It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos fondly
known as  4g and 13.

Both have been attached for your reference



Please respond as follows:



[ ] +1-4g approve option 4g

[ ] +1-13 approve option 13

[ ] +0 no opinion

[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)



The vote will be open for 72 hours.



   Regards,

   Roberta Marton







-- 

Thanks,



Gunnar

*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

+1 for 13.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Roberta Marton <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> +1 for 13
>
>
>
>Roberta
>
>
>
> *From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
> *To:* 'user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org' <
> user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
>
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos
> fondly known as  4g and 13.
>
> Both have been attached for your reference
>
>
>
> Please respond as follows:
>
>
>
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
>
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
>
> [ ] +0 no opinion
>
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Roberta Marton
>
>
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[D. Markt]

  Right, but your response and Dave’s are subtly different.  Dave implies that 
if there’s a strong consensus then maybe there’s no need for another vote.  
That’s not how the request for input was originally billed.  If that had been 
the case, perhaps Atanu wouldn’t have voted for option 12 and instead would 
have voted for 4G (for example).  That said, I applaud everyone’s hard work and 
passion on creating and picking the logo.  I’ve seen a company pick a logo 
several times over the years and someone has always objected to the final 
version as “ugly”, “stupid”, “unnecessary change’, etc.  It’s much like writing 
an installer or user interface—it’s a thankless job and all you’ll hear are 
those that think you did a terrible job. :)

 

--Dennis 

 

From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:28 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

Nope, not yet on the official vote - still making sure everyone who wants to 
offer an opinion from China (or anywhere else, but Chinese New Year was last 
week so they were not thinking about Trafodion Logos, I'm betting...) has a 
chance.




---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com <mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com> 

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:24 PM, D. Markt <dmarkt7...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmarkt7...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I didn’t vote because I was waiting for the run-off/official vote.  If we’re in 
it, then we should tell all that’s the case and I’ll vote on the current 
options.

 

Thanks,

Dennis

 

From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com 
<mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:31 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org> 
Subject: RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

Hi,

 

Looks like consensus is crystallizing around options 13 and 4G. There were a 
couple of comments on 4G regarding font color. I don’t know if Ken wants to put 
up a revised 4G with a different color scheme.

 

I’m wondering if we should do an informal run-off between 13 and 4G (or a 
revised 4G if Ken so desires) and decide on that basis?

 

Dave

 

From: Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org> 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

+1 to 13

 

 

Here's what the current vote tally looks like.


Option



13

4G

8

12


Ken Holt



Tina Krug

1

1



Sean Broeder

1

1



Sandya Sundaresan

1

1



Hans Zeller

1

1



Rohit Jain

1



Wei-Shun Tsai

1

1



Hai Lin (Henry)

1



Qifan Chen

1



Ming Liu

1



Narendra Goyal

1

1




Atanu Mishra

1


Carol Pearson

1

1



Venkat Muthuswamy



Amanda Moran

1

1



Jian Jin (Seth)

1



Christophe LeRouzo

1

1



Prashanth Vasudev

1

1

 



Dave Birdsall

1



Kevin DeYager

1



14

10

3

1



 

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com 
<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > wrote:

+1

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com 
<mailto:steve.var...@esgyn.com> > wrote:

If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that 
“Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of the 
dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the Apache logo.

 

--Steve

 

From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com <mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org> 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

Hi All,

 

A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of the 
input that I received.

 

One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your 
consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a 
run-off.)

 

By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner 
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.  

 

Cheers, Ken

 

 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <min

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Carol Pearson]

Nope, not yet on the official vote - still making sure everyone who wants
to offer an opinion from China (or anywhere else, but Chinese New Year was
last week so they were not thinking about Trafodion Logos, I'm betting...)
has a chance.

---
Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
Twitter:  @CarolP222
---

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:24 PM, D. Markt <dmarkt7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn’t vote because I was waiting for the run-off/official vote.  If
> we’re in it, then we should tell all that’s the case and I’ll vote on the
> current options.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:31 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Looks like consensus is crystallizing around options 13 and 4G. There were
> a couple of comments on 4G regarding font color. I don’t know if Ken wants
> to put up a revised 4G with a different color scheme.
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if we should do an informal run-off between 13 and 4G (or a
> revised 4G if Ken so desires) and decide on that basis?
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 to 13
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's what the current vote tally looks like.
>
> Option
>
> 13
>
> 4G
>
> 8
>
> 12
>
> Ken Holt
>
> Tina Krug
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Sean Broeder
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Sandya Sundaresan
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Hans Zeller
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Rohit Jain
>
> 1
>
> Wei-Shun Tsai
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Hai Lin (Henry)
>
> 1
>
> Qifan Chen
>
> 1
>
> Ming Liu
>
> 1
>
> Narendra Goyal
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Atanu Mishra
>
> 1
>
> Carol Pearson
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Venkat Muthuswamy
>
> Amanda Moran
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Jian Jin (Seth)
>
> 1
>
> Christophe LeRouzo
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Prashanth Vasudev
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
>
>
> Dave Birdsall
>
> 1
>
> Kevin DeYager
>
> 1
>
> 14
>
> 10
>
> 3
>
> 1
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
> “Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
> the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
> Apache logo.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Selva Govindarajan]

Did I cast an invalid vote J ? It is missing



   138

Selvaganesan Govindarajan  1 1



Selva



*From:* Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 to 13





Here's what the current vote tally looks like.

Option

13

4G

8

12

Ken Holt

Tina Krug

1

1

Sean Broeder

1

1

Sandya Sundaresan

1

1

Hans Zeller

1

1

Rohit Jain

1

Wei-Shun Tsai

1

1

Hai Lin (Henry)

1

Qifan Chen

1

Ming Liu

1

Narendra Goyal

1

1

Atanu Mishra

1

Carol Pearson

1

1

Venkat Muthuswamy

Amanda Moran

1

1

Jian Jin (Seth)

1

Christophe LeRouzo

1

1

Prashanth Vasudev

1

1



Dave Birdsall

1

Kevin DeYager

1

14

10

3

1





On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1



On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
“Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
Apache logo.



--Steve



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presenta

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Dave Birdsall]

Hi,



Looks like consensus is crystallizing around options 13 and 4G. There were
a couple of comments on 4G regarding font color. I don’t know if Ken wants
to put up a revised 4G with a different color scheme.



I’m wondering if we should do an informal run-off between 13 and 4G (or a
revised 4G if Ken so desires) and decide on that basis?



Dave



*From:* Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 to 13





Here's what the current vote tally looks like.

Option

13

4G

8

12

Ken Holt

Tina Krug

1

1

Sean Broeder

1

1

Sandya Sundaresan

1

1

Hans Zeller

1

1

Rohit Jain

1

Wei-Shun Tsai

1

1

Hai Lin (Henry)

1

Qifan Chen

1

Ming Liu

1

Narendra Goyal

1

1

Atanu Mishra

1

Carol Pearson

1

1

Venkat Muthuswamy

Amanda Moran

1

1

Jian Jin (Seth)

1

Christophe LeRouzo

1

1

Prashanth Vasudev

1

1



Dave Birdsall

1

Kevin DeYager

1

14

10

3

1





On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1



On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
“Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
Apache logo.



--Steve



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Hav

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

+1

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
> “Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
> the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
> Apache logo.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and 

RE: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Jin, Jian (Seth)]

+1 for option 13, the dragon looks cute and the 1st character with upper case 
looks solid and formal.

Br,

Seth

From: Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
Sent: 2016年2月16日 10:52
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal

+1 to 4g or 13.

I will say I think 12 is hard to read... I don't think I have seen any votes 
for it but I think some fonts with all capitals would make Trafodion hard 
to read.

Thanks!

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
<venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com<mailto:venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com>> wrote:
Hi Ming,

HBase already has taken the Whale logo (Orca) ☺

Venkat

From: Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn<mailto:ming@esgyn.cn>]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:35 PM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

Thanks Gunnar,

I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
I think we also think about whale before?

The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and real ☺

And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can draw 
a baby dragon?

And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my 
favorite ☺

My 2 cents.

Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me how 
powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind of 
design.

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月13日 9:43
收件人: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
主题: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal

Trying an attachment...

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
<ming@esgyn.cn<mailto:ming@esgyn.cn>> wrote:
Hi, Gunnar,

Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I saw 
QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people cannot 
access Google drive .

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper 
[mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>]
发送时间: 2016年2月13日 4:31
收件人: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
主题: Re: Logo Proposal

Hi,

Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the 
following draft as a candidate: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc

I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for 
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the 
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's 
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google 
Fonts: Telex Regular.

As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure 
it'll meet the other criteria, too.

Thanks,

Gunnar





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
<carol.pearson...@gmail.com<mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem 
denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the 
puzzle ;-) .

I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be 
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US 
and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our 
traffic comes from.

Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?

-Carol P.

---
Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com<mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
Twitter:  @CarolP222
---

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
<venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com<mailto:venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com>> wrote:
Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious.
Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, 
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.

Venkat

From: Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com<mailto:c...@esgyn.com>]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com<mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com>>; Gunnar 
Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>>
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal

It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…

What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? ☺
-clr


From: Amanda Moran 
[mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com<mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>]
Sent: Friday, Feb

Re: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Amanda Moran]

+1 to 4g or 13.

I will say I think 12 is hard to read... I don't think I have seen any
votes for it but I think some fonts with all capitals would make
Trafodion hard to read.

Thanks!

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Hi Ming,
>
>
>
> HBase already has taken the Whale logo (Orca) J
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 6:35 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com
> <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>
> -  One color or multiple colors?
>
> -  Thin font or thick font?
>
> -  

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi Ming,

The dragon is there for the Welsh connection, which is why there was some
consensus while you folks where out on holidays.

If you want to suggest a whale, then I think you better provide the artwork
for consideration or it'll not happen. Hopefully, the dragon is OK enough
for us not to revisit the image but if you feel strong about it, then
that's the way to go.

Gunnar

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>
> -  One color or multiple colors?
>
> -  Thin font or thick font?
>
> -  One font or two fonts?
>
> -  Apache or not…
>
>
>
> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran 

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Ken: Can you make a variant of 13 with the same font as we use on the web
site; that is, Telex?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:33 AM, Selva Govindarajan <
selva.govindara...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> +1 for 8 and 13.  Consider reducing the space between the fonts if
> possible in 8.
>
>
>
> Selva
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Ce

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Selva Govindarajan]

+1 for 8 and 13.  Consider reducing the space between the fonts if possible
in 8.



Selva



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apa

RE: 答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Narendra Goyal]

+1 for 4g

+1 for 13



*From:* Qifan Chen [mailto:qifan.c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:59 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 for #4 for a balanced look and stable feel.







On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Lin, Hai (Henry) <hai@esgyn.cn> wrote:

+1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.J



Henry





*发件人**:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月14日 8:50
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal

Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Qifan Chen]

+1 for #4 for a balanced look and stable feel.



On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Lin, Hai (Henry) <hai@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> +1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.J
>
>
>
> Henry
>
>
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月14日 8:50
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto

答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Lin, Hai (Henry)]

+1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.☺

Henry


发件人: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月14日 8:50
收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

Hi All,

A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of the 
input that I received.

One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your 
consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a 
run-off.)

By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner 
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.

Cheers, Ken


On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
<ming@esgyn.cn<mailto:ming@esgyn.cn>> wrote:
Thanks Gunnar,

I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
I think we also think about whale before?

The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and real ☺

And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can draw 
a baby dragon?

And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my 
favorite ☺

My 2 cents.

Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me how 
powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind of 
design.

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper 
[mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>]
发送时间: 2016年2月13日 9:43
收件人: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
主题: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal

Trying an attachment...

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
<ming@esgyn.cn<mailto:ming@esgyn.cn>> wrote:
Hi, Gunnar,

Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I saw 
QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people cannot 
access Google drive .

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper 
[mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>]
发送时间: 2016年2月13日 4:31
收件人: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
主题: Re: Logo Proposal

Hi,

Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the 
following draft as a candidate: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc

I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for 
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the 
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's 
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google 
Fonts: Telex Regular.

As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure 
it'll meet the other criteria, too.

Thanks,

Gunnar





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
<carol.pearson...@gmail.com<mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem 
denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the 
puzzle ;-) .

I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be 
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US 
and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our 
traffic comes from.

Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?

-Carol P.

---
Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com<mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
Twitter:  @CarolP222
---

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
<venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com<mailto:venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com>> wrote:
Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious.
Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, 
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.

Venkat

From: Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com<mailto:c...@esgyn.com>]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com<mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com>>; Gunnar 
Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>>
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal

It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…

What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? ☺
-clr


From: Amanda Moran 
[mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com<mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.or

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Wei-Shiun Tsai]

+1 for 8

+1 for 13



Weishiun



*From:* Rohit [mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:37 PM
*To:* Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com>; user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 for 13



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com>
Date: 02/13/2016 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove A

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Rohit]

+1 for 13
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> 
Date: 02/13/2016  6:49 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal 

Hi
All,

 

A new set of Trafodion
logo options are attached, taking account of much of the input that I received.

 

One of these is a
clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your consideration and
hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a run-off.)

 

By the way, all logos use
Google fonts, including the earlier front runner option 4 where I found a 
comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.  

 

Cheers, Ken

 
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:








Thanks Gunnar,
 
I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
I think we also think about whale before?
 
The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and real
J  
 
And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can draw 
a baby dragon?
 
And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my 
favorite
J
 
My 2 cents.

 
Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me how 
powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
 kind of design.
 
Thanks,
Ming
 
发件人: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]


发送时间: 2016年2月13日
 9:43

收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

主题: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
 

Trying an attachment...


 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:



Hi, Gunnar,
 
Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I saw 
QiFan once
 has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people cannot access 
Google drive .
 
Thanks,
Ming
 
发件人:
 Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]


发送时间: 2016年2月13日
 4:31

收件人:
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

主题: Re: Logo Proposal


 

Hi,

 


Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the 
following draft as a candidate: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc

 


I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for 
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the 
gray hue
 (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's better done 
in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google Fonts: Telex 
Regular.


 


As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and
 I'm sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.


 


Thanks,


 


Gunnar


 


 


 


 




 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem 
denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the 
puzzle
 ;-) .

 


I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be 
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US 
and at
 the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our traffic 
comes from.


 


Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?


 


-Carol P.










---


Email:    carol.pearson...@gmail.com



Twitter:  @CarolP222



---




 



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
<venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:



Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, 
presentation
 slides and any brochures if you will.
Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
 
Venkat
 


From: Christophe
 LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]


Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>

Subject: RE: Logo Proposal




 
It seems we might need multiple votes:
- 
One color or multiple colors?
- 
Thin font or thick font?
- 
One font or two fonts?
- 
Apache or not…
 
What was Selva saying about engineers and votes?
J

-clr
 
 


From: Amanda
 Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]


Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Logo Proposal


 

-1 all same color. 


 


I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove 
Apache  But I still like it the way it is 


 


Sent from my iPhone




On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:




But is it obvious that 

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Sandhya Sundaresan]

+1 for 13  AND 4g  (whichever looks good on slides and website finally. )



Thank you , Ken  for going through all these iterations !



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Sean Broeder]

I think my preferences lean toward the more traditional.  I like options 13
and 4g.  I don’t really care for the all lower case print, despite it
seeming to have support from others.  It seems too informal or
unprofessional to me.



Nice effort getting these together.



Thanks,
Sean



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting t

Re: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I tried logo option #4 on the website. Screenshot located at:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTZ0FFM2I0WnpwWlE

As you can see, the dragon itself works well due to the fact that the bulk
of the body is of a darker blue.

Alas, the font family doesn't work well with Telex (
https://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Telex), which is what the web site
uses via the bootswatch theme. Overall, the font in the logo would be too
hard to read if applied to the overall website.

The light-blue color on the word "Apache" doesn't work either; it's better
to use the dark color from the dragon's body. The
"Transactional-SQL-on-Hadoop" slogan is lost due to the black font color of
"Trafodion", which is why I suggest a singular color for all of "Apache
Trafodion" — it's easy to add slogans underneath the logo with text that
way.

To me, this experiment validates that the logo itself is fine but there's a
little more work on the text associated with the logo to finish the job. I
am not suggesting to use the font in my earlier mockup but would like to
try Telex together with the darker text to see how that fits. It's too late
for me to try that experiment at this time so maybe tomorrow.

My two cents,

Gunnar

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.
>
> A simple change:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Option 4!!
>>
>> Trina
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
>> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
>> and I'm not fond of it overall...
>>
>> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
>> all
>>
>> Thanks Ken!
>>
>> -Carol P.
>>
>> ---
>> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>> ---
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the
>>>> right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weishiun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned),
>>>> but with the placement of option 6.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 option 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>&

Re: Logo Proposal

[Rohit]

-1
Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. 
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> 
Date: 02/12/2016  12:50 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal 

Hi,
I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. 
A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8
Thanks,
Gunnar
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
Option 4!!
Trina 
On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:

Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would prefer 
a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not 
fond of it overall...
But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all  
Thanks Ken!

-Carol P.
---Email:    
carol.pearson...@gmail.com
Twitter:  
@CarolP222---

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote:
Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan 
<sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The 
dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J  From: Wei-Shiun 
Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon 
to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more 
professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun From: Dave Birdsall 
[mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower 
cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either 
one is fine. Dave From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Anuradha Hegde 
[mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Ken Holt 
[mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most 
everyone liked that.But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. 
Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 
4https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing 
Option 
6https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing 
Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field 
testing!Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya 
Sundaresan <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:I’d say there is enough 
“curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could try with a simple bold font  
. Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie 
it in with the dragon’s colors as well.  From: Hans Zeller 
[mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an 
informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the 
carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better 
(although still not my favorite).
Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> 
wrote:By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a 
vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which 
I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a 
stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another 
version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes 
sense.Cheers, Ken  On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> 
wrote:+1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson 
<carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:+1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great! On the 
writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately.  Maybe 
we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?  Voting separately is a 
good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds 
like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what 
we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack   -Carol P.
-

Re: Logo Proposal

[Qifan Chen]

I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon
and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached.

I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word
APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK).

With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the
"power by Apache" logo, see URL here
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of
"Apache".

It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus.

Thanks --Qifan

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> -1
>
> Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist.
>
> Rohit
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal
>
> Hi,
>
> I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.
>
> A simple change:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Option 4!!
>>
>> Trina
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
>> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
>> and I'm not fond of it overall...
>>
>> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
>> all
>>
>> Thanks Ken!
>>
>> -Carol P.
>>
>> ---
>> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>> ---
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the
>>>> right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weishiun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned),
>>>> but with the placement of option 6.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 option 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 option 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>

Re: Logo Proposal

[Rohit]

It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as compared to 
those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet.  I feel that it adds 
quite a bit of value to Trafodion.
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> 
Date: 02/12/2016  8:34 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal 

I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon and 
the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached.
I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word 
APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK).  
With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the "power by 
Apache" logo, see URL here, without the duplication of "Apache". 
It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. 
Thanks --Qifan
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:


-1
Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. 
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> 
Date: 02/12/2016  12:50 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal 

Hi,
I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. 
A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8
Thanks,
Gunnar
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
Option 4!!
Trina 
On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:

Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would prefer 
a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not 
fond of it overall...
But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all  
Thanks Ken!

-Carol P.
---Email:    
carol.pearson...@gmail.com
Twitter:  
@CarolP222---

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote:
Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan 
<sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The 
dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J  From: Wei-Shiun 
Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon 
to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more 
professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun From: Dave Birdsall 
[mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower 
cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either 
one is fine. Dave From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Anuradha Hegde 
[mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Ken Holt 
[mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most 
everyone liked that.But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. 
Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 
4https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing 
Option 
6https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing 
Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field 
testing!Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya 
Sundaresan <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:I’d say there is enough 
“curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could try with a simple bold font  
. Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie 
it in with the dragon’s colors as well.  From: Hans Zeller 
[mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an 
informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the 
carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better 
(although still not my favorite).
Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> 
wrote:By the 

RE: Logo Proposal

[Christophe LeRouzo]

It seems we might need multiple votes:

-One color or multiple colors?

-Thin font or thick font?

-One font or two fonts?

-Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
read about it?



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as
compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet.  I
feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion.



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com>
Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon
and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached.



I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word
APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK).



With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the
"power by Apache" logo, see URL here
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of
"Apache".



It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus.



Thanks --Qifan



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

-1



Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist.



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

Hi,



I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.



A simple change:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8



Thanks,



Gunnar



On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

Option 4!!



Trina


On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
and I'm not fond of it overall...



But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
all



Thanks Ken!



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.



On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The
dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J



*From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right,
not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
(perhaps also in lower case).



Weishiun



*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
with the placement of option 6.



That said, either one is fine.



Dave



*From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.

But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.



Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.



Option 4

https://drive.google.com

RE: Logo Proposal

[Sean Broeder]

I know there has been some talk of using lower case in Trafodion, but do we
want to extend that to Apache?  I’ve done some non-exhaustive searches and
can’t find any instance where the leading ‘A’ is not capitalized.  I think
we should follow that pattern.



Regards,

Sean



*From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 12:31 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
read about it?



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as
compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet.  I
feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion.



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com>
Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon
and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached.



I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word
APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK).



With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the
"power by Apache" logo, see URL here
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of
"Apache".



It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus.



Thanks --Qifan



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

-1



Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist.



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

Hi,



I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.



A simple change:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNh

Re: Logo Proposal

[Stack]

'A' or 'a' doesn't matter I'd say.
St.Ack

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It's better to stand out as long as it doesn't violates some rule... :)
> Carol might know the answer to whether lowercase does.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Sean Broeder <sean.broe...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I know there has been some talk of using lower case in Trafodion, but do
>> we want to extend that to Apache?  I’ve done some non-exhaustive searches
>> and can’t find any instance where the leading ‘A’ is not capitalized.  I
>> think we should follow that pattern.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 12:31 PM
>>
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to
>> propose the following draft as a candidate:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
>> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
>> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
>> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
>> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>>
>>
>>
>> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
>> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
>> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
>> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
>> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
>> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
>> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
>> traffic comes from.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Carol P.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>>
>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
>> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
>> serious.
>>
>> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
>> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>>
>> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Venkat
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
>> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>>
>> -  One color or multiple colors?
>>
>> -  Thin font or thick font?
>>
>> -  One font or two fonts?
>>
>> -  Apache or not…
>>
>>
>>
>> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J
>>
>> -clr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
>> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> -1 all same color.
>>
>>
>>
>> I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
>> remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>&g

RE: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Christophe LeRouzo]

Outside of the legal aspect, it looks kind of weird without capitalization
of Apache and Trafodion…



-clr





*From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 5:43 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
read about it?



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as
compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet.  I
feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion.



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com>
Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon
and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached.



I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word
APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK).



With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the
"power by Apache" logo, see URL here
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of
"Apache".



It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus.



Thanks --Qifan



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote:

-1



Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist.



Rohit

Re: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.

A simple change:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Option 4!!
>
> Trina
>
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
> and I'm not fond of it overall...
>
> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
> all
>
> Thanks Ken!
>
> -Carol P.
>
> ---
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
> ---
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the
>>> right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Weishiun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned),
>>> but with the placement of option 6.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 option 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 option 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>>>
>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 4
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 6
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
>>> field testing!
>>>
>>> Comments on 4 & 6?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we
>>> could try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different
>>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Hans Zelle

RE: Logo Proposal

[Dave Birdsall]

Hi,



I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
with the placement of option 6.



That said, either one is fine.



Dave



*From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.

But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.



Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.



Option 4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing



Option 6

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing



Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
field testing!

Comments on 4 & 6?



Cheers, Ken



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.



*From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
favorite).


Hans



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.



I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
post another version of that.



Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.

Cheers, Ken





On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

+1 on dragon.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!



On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?





Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
carries.



St.Ack







-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

+1 for Dragon.

The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
complicated with the cursive.





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+10 for dragon! Very cute!



Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
likes... I give it a +0



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really
well the yellow elephant!



Regards,

-clr





*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too
much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that
issue.



Dave



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Logo Proposal



Hi All,



Apache Trafodion needs a logo.



I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some
time ago, but we never really resolved it.  In the very early days of
Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo
that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a
simple cute dragon.



I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that
we use this 

RE: Logo Proposal

[Sandhya Sundaresan]

I am not able to paste it here and preserve the font. But on the website,
http://trafodion.apache.org/,  the Trafodion on the top left upper corner
in red has a lowercase font with the ‘F’ going down. We could try that to
see if it looks better than 4 which is already pretty close/popular.



Sandhya



*From:* Atanu Mishra [mailto:atanumis...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:06 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



I like Hans' suggestion for lower-case letters for Trafodion. Both options
were better than the previous, but not quite there. Getting close.



Regards,

Atanu



Atanu Mishra



On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eric Owhadi <eric.owh...@esgyn.com> wrote:

+1 option 4



*From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.

But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.



Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.



Option 4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing



Option 6

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing



Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
field testing!

Comments on 4 & 6?



Cheers, Ken



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.



*From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
favorite).


Hans



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.



I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
post another version of that.



Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.

Cheers, Ken





On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

+1 on dragon.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!



On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?





Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
carries.



St.Ack







-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

+1 for Dragon.

The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
complicated with the cursive.





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+10 for dragon! Very cute!



Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
likes... I give it a +0



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really
well the yellow elephant!



Regards,

-clr





*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too
much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that
issue.



Dave



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Logo Proposal



Hi A

RE: Logo Proposal

[Wei-Shiun Tsai]

+1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right,
not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
(perhaps also in lower case).



Weishiun



*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
with the placement of option 6.



That said, either one is fine.



Dave



*From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.

But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.



Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.



Option 4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing



Option 6

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing



Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
field testing!

Comments on 4 & 6?



Cheers, Ken



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.



*From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
favorite).


Hans



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.



I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
post another version of that.



Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.

Cheers, Ken





On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

+1 on dragon.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!



On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?





Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
carries.



St.Ack







-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

+1 for Dragon.

The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
complicated with the cursive.





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+10 for dragon! Very cute!



Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
likes... I give it a +0



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really
well the yellow elephant!



Regards,

-clr





*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too
much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that
issue.



Dave



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Logo Proposal



Hi All,



Apache Trafodion needs a logo.



I believe there was some discussion ab

Re: Logo Proposal

[Atanu Mishra]

I like Hans' suggestion for lower-case letters for Trafodion. Both options
were better than the previous, but not quite there. Getting close.

Regards,
Atanu


Atanu Mishra

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eric Owhadi <eric.owh...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> +1 option 4
>
>
>
> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 option 4
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>
> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>
>
>
> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>
>
>
> Option 4
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Option 6
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
> field testing!
>
> Comments on 4 & 6?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
> try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
> like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.
>
>
>
> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
>
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
> favorite).
>
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.
>
>
>
> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
> post another version of that.
>
>
>
> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> +1 on dragon.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!
>
>
>
> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
> separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?
>
>
>
>
>
> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
> carries.
>
>
>
> St.Ack
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> -------
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> +1 for Dragon.
>
> The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
> complicated with the cursive.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +10 for dragon! Very cute!
>
>
>
> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
> likes... I give it a +0
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really
> well the yellow elephant!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM
> *To:* use

RE: Logo Proposal

[Sandhya Sundaresan]

Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The
dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J



*From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right,
not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
(perhaps also in lower case).



Weishiun



*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
with the placement of option 6.



That said, either one is fine.



Dave



*From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 option 4



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.

But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.



Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.



Option 4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing



Option 6

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing



Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
field testing!

Comments on 4 & 6?



Cheers, Ken



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.



*From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM


*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
favorite).


Hans



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.



I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
post another version of that.



Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.

Cheers, Ken





On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

+1 on dragon.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!



On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?





Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
carries.



St.Ack







-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

+1 for Dragon.

The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
complicated with the cursive.





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



+10 for dragon! Very cute!



Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
likes... I give it a +0



On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really
well the yellow elephant!



Regards,

-clr





*From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



Hi,



I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too
much alike. Would be nice

Re: Logo Proposal

[Carol Pearson]

Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
and I'm not fond of it overall...

But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
all

Thanks Ken!

-Carol P.

---
Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
Twitter:  @CarolP222
---

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right,
>> not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>
>>
>>
>> Weishiun
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
>> with the placement of option 6.
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, either one is fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 option 4
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 option 4
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>>
>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Option 4
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>>
>> Option 6
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
>> field testing!
>>
>> Comments on 4 & 6?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we
>> could try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different
>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
>> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
>> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
>> favorite).
>>
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
>> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
>> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size 

Re: Logo Proposal

[Enis Söztutar]

Option 4 looks good. The other one is not "serious" enough for my taste.
Just my 2 cents.

Enis

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
> and I'm not fond of it overall...
>
> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
> all
>
> Thanks Ken!
>
> -Carol P.
>
> ---
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
> ---
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the
>>> right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Weishiun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned),
>>> but with the placement of option 6.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 option 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 option 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>>>
>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 4
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 6
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
>>> field testing!
>>>
>>> Comments on 4 & 6?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we
>>> could try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different
>>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>&g

Re: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The
> dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>
>
>
> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right,
> not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
> (perhaps also in lower case).
>
>
>
> Weishiun
>
>
>
> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
> with the placement of option 6.
>
>
>
> That said, either one is fine.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 option 4
>
>
>
> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 option 4
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>
> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>
>
>
> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>
>
>
> Option 4
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Option 6
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
> field testing!
>
> Comments on 4 & 6?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
> try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
> like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.
>
>
>
> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
>
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
> favorite).
>
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.
>
>
>
> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
> post another version of that.
>
>
>
> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> +1 on dragon.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!
>
>
>
> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
> separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?
>
>
>
>
>
> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
> carries.
>
>
>
> St.Ack
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---

Re: Logo Proposal

[Trina Krug]

Option 4!!

Trina 

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would 
> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and 
> I'm not fond of it overall...
> 
> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all 
>  
> 
> Thanks Ken!
> 
> -Carol P.
> 
> ---
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
> ---
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan 
>>> <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The 
>>> dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal
>>>  
>>> 
>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right, 
>>> not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional 
>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Weishiun
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but 
>>> with the placement of option 6.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> +1 option 4
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> +1 option 4
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>>> 
>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Option 4
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Option 6
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited 
>>> field testing!
>>> 
>>> Comments on 4 & 6?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Ken
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan 
>>> <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could 
>>> try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color 
>>> like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal
>>> 

RE: Logo Proposal

[Sandhya Sundaresan]

+1 on  reduced size of the dragon. The Trafodion writing needs to be at a
closer scale to the Dragon  sort of like it is on the Apache Hadoop website
for Hadoop logo and the elephant. It will make the writing standout more.





*From:* Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:33 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



+1 on the logo. I tried a reduced size and it still rendered nicely !



I agree with the others on the font. We need a simple font that make the
product name stand out. Maybe use the same font as the “APACHE” but in
different color ?



Venkat



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 09, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Logo Proposal



Hi All,



Apache Trafodion needs a logo.



I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some
time ago, but we never really resolved it.  In the very early days of
Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo
that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a
simple cute dragon.



I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that
we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward.



Dragon standalone -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing

Trafodion name & dragon -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing



I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s
look too similar.



Thoughts?  Should we vote on this?



Cheers, Ken

RE: Logo Proposal

[Venkat Muthuswamy]

+1 on the logo. I tried a reduced size and it still rendered nicely !



I agree with the others on the font. We need a simple font that make the
product name stand out. Maybe use the same font as the “APACHE” but in
different color ?



Venkat



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 09, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Logo Proposal



Hi All,



Apache Trafodion needs a logo.



I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some
time ago, but we never really resolved it.  In the very early days of
Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo
that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a
simple cute dragon.



I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that
we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward.



Dragon standalone -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing

Trafodion name & dragon -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing



I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s
look too similar.



Thoughts?  Should we vote on this?



Cheers, Ken

Logo Proposal

[Ken Holt]

Hi All,



Apache Trafodion needs a logo.



I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some
time ago, but we never really resolved it.  In the very early days of
Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo
that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a
simple cute dragon.



I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that
we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward.



Dragon standalone -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing

Trafodion name & dragon -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing



I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s
look too similar.



Thoughts?  Should we vote on this?



Cheers, Ken