Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
There is good reason, beyond SOX, that most commercial and non-commercial email clients default to top-posting. It's required in the vast majority of corporations around the world. http://www.ask.com/wiki/Posting_style For a long time the traditional style was to post the answer below as much of the quoted original as was necessary to understand the reply (bottom or inline). Many years later, when email became widespread in business communication, it became a widespread policy to reply above the entire original and leave it untouched below the reply. ... Top-posting has always been the standard format for forwarding a message to a third party; in which case the comments at the top (if any) are a cover note for the recipient. ... Customer service e-mail practices, in particular, often require that all points be addressed in a clear manner without quoting, while the original e-mail message may be included as an attachment. On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:30 +, toki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/05/2011 17:16, Lindsay Graham wrote: Ah, but neither of us would *ever *need to page down to see the current post if we both top-posted. Instead, I have to page down, and read the entire post, to try to figure out what you are responding to, and get the context of that reply. So instead of zipping thru twenty emails per minute, I only go through two or three emails per minute. You cannot claim, in a general context, that there is there is a *proper* way of using one's mail client. Actually, I do make that claim. Intermixed quotes are the proper way to do things, because that is the only format in which the context the reply being made can be readily ascertained. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5XoVAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVFG4H/0Mx/+SZKodikKx/aXWrXPMG DQn53ZFZZSr64UNXyrHjWSaYwmgQ7RgV4nG+a7hYE5lvaz7OrI9T6ebR4BSHGMl+ EIWypvIEzJhqcQUWhYTDfyYF9obgvmZWn58fD82uasBDr91wYJJCjFTu/F2ddaJU lVk0TpL2OEXD+USsXEj1bE4ttE6qYOPQ5cEGX8RLaz9Hauv2OpLpOHUOZnCYMsGJ lH6pfXt/XLq29VvD5BXoaponr7vjzvYXhOqMKckO+MRglkxyfn0KUuqzRpqdffd6 bHkRbu/+rAWixplRgaebqAajwACqZDxok55bM52yUY/vz7aD44trUaOGRJu/3fs= =b9MX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Well, From a style guide perspective, if you are not changing the numbering style, you shouldn't be changing the font. I _assume_ you are looking to create something like this: 1 The Art of Slamming Head Against Wall 1.1 Place Palms Flat Against Wall 1.2 Bend Elbows 45 degrees 1.3 Rear Head Back as far as Possible 1.4 Throw Body Weight Behind Forward Head Movement 2 The Art of Being Kicked in the Head I am working from memory here, didn't test this, but you are not supposed to be globally changing a font after the fact. You are supposed to have an outline style with a numbering style at each level. Take a look at Tools-Outline Numbering. You can specify a different paragraph style for each level. On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 13:27 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have got myself into a state with numbering that may be someone could help me get out of, or if there is no way out may be it will lead to a bug being filed. I have been making notes for a company LO styles usage manual and looking at what users have been doing and what they should have done and how to fix up their manuals. I will simply explain how to recreate the problem and possibly someone can help me with the correction. 1-Create a new writer document. 2-Add say 5 lines of text. 3-Apply list style Numbering 1 to get outline numbering. 4-Highlight line 2 and Demote one level 5-With line 2 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. The size of the outline numbering on line 2 changes to match. This is all as expected and as historically has happened through LO and OO. 6-Now click on the outline numbering (so just the numbering is highlighted in gray) And change the font to another font and change the font size to another size. The outline numbering all changes. 7-highlight line 4 and Demote one level 8-With line 4 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. My question is how do I undo this so that the outline numbering will again follow the characteristics of the text it appears in front of. I have deleted all numbering and all content from the document but now for any list I create or list style I apply to the document the outline numbering is in the font and size I set it 6 above and not matching the characters after the numbering as did occur originally. This one click and change to the outline font has completely mucked up my whole document (As I had size 16pt bold major points level 1 and size 12pt sub points and now they are all either 16 or 12 and bold or not). Thanks, steve -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
-2 http://www.ask.com/wiki/Posting_style For a long time the traditional style was to post the answer below as much of the quoted original as was necessary to understand the reply (bottom or inline). Many years later, when email became widespread in business communication, it became a widespread policy to reply above the entire original and leave it untouched below the reply. Top-posting has always been the standard format for forwarding a message to a third party; in which case the comments at the top (if any) are a cover note for the recipient. Customer service e-mail practices, in particular, often require that all points be addressed in a clear manner without quoting, while the original e-mail message may be included as an attachment. On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 15:32 -0800, Marc Grober wrote: +1 On 5/31/11 3:30 PM, toki wrote: Actually, I do make that claim. Intermixed quotes are the proper way to do things, because that is the only format in which the context the reply being made can be readily ascertained. jonathon -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Full width, no margins
I often need to place two documents side by side in two Writer windows. The problem with this is that the text becomes too small, so if possible I zoom, remove rulers, and use Web Layout. Is there a way to leave the page in Print Layout but have it display without page margins? I'd like the print area of the page to be as wide as possible however playing with the zoom and the horizontal scrollbar is frustrating. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
An incredible topic of discussion... Presumably because Americans do not use A4, everyone else must stop also. Similarly, majority of people on this planet understand implicitly yy/mm/dd or dd/mm/yy, but because Americans do not by default, everyone else must adhere to what the Americans are doing. Whatever is the policy, strategy of a fortune 500 company (whatever that means), you will do as they do, or expect the American army to arrive and enforce their rules. Resistance is futile... The fact is, organisers have made certain decisions (preferential use of mailing lists, disdain for web forums, advice to post comments for advice, etc.) and people have chosen to complain that they don't like these decisions. In the world of free software, there is nothing to stop such people from creating their own new fork; with that some suggestions: Create a new office software suite, call it something like peopleoffice. Specify top posting as the rule by which help/advice will only be offered. Better still, avoid mailing list altogether and use a bulletin board software platform. Go away from LO. Good luck. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Hello Steve, On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:27:56 +1200 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: Hi. I have got myself into a state with numbering that may be someone could help me get out of, or if there is no way out may be it will lead to a bug being filed. I have been making notes for a company LO styles usage manual and looking at what users have been doing and what they should have done and how to fix up their manuals. I will simply explain how to recreate the problem and possibly someone can help me with the correction. 1-Create a new writer document. 2-Add say 5 lines of text. 3-Apply list style Numbering 1 to get outline numbering. 4-Highlight line 2 and Demote one level 5-With line 2 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. The size of the outline numbering on line 2 changes to match. This is all as expected and as historically has happened through LO and OO. 6-Now click on the outline numbering (so just the numbering is highlighted in gray) And change the font to another font and change the font size to another size. The outline numbering all changes. 7-highlight line 4 and Demote one level 8-With line 4 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. For your points 5 and 6 you are hard formatting the appearance of the text. Instead do the following: Highlight the text of your point 5, press F11 to get the styles and formatting window, and modify the corresponding (highlighted) style, that is applied to this text. Do the same for the formatting of your outline numbering. The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. This is probably because hard formatted text takes precedence over applied styles. To remove your hard formatting mark (highlight) all your text and select Default formatting. Once this is done, you can modify the styles for the outline numbering in any way you want - but use the styles and formatting window to do this. :) HTH Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue
Earl Melton wrote: I thought Lotus 1-2-3 used the Shift+2 (or @ character), i.e., @SUM(A1..A12). Did I think wrong? Maybe we're talking about different flavors of Lotus. Or maybe I'm having another one of those darned senior moments. No you didn't. It was my mistake (I noticed the minute I posted and since this isn't a forum I couldn't edit it :) ). I meant using + to start a formula. Lotus functions started with an @ indeed (which on the Portuguese keyboard is Alt Gr + 2 :( ) In any case, people who used Lotus (for DOS) are entitled to forget some things :) Have a great week! ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AutoCorrect-AutoFormat-issue-tp3007549p3009823.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] load url bar
Votes for this enhancement would be appreciated! See http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Bug_37800_-_Combo_Box_.27Load_URL.27_should_be_visible_by_default_in_Standard_Toolbar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:36:03 +0100, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken: An incredible topic of discussion... Indeed it has been. It enabled me to easily identify and add several top-posting morons to my plonk list. Now I can avoid all of their posts. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Hi :) I don't think there are people arguing that top-posting MUST be the ONLY way. On the contrary, we are pointing out that if the product is to be used by more people than are currently using it, especially if we want office workers to use it, then we have to be prepared for many of those to be unused to bottom posting. I am sick of this argument. I have never been so brow-beaten or bullied in the supposedly Open world that supposedly encourages free-thinking and diversity. Instead it seems that LibreOffice is very restrictive, at least on the users list if nowhere else. Is Libre about freedom or about restrictions? Regards from Tom :) From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 8:36:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken An incredible topic of discussion... Presumably because Americans do not use A4, everyone else must stop also. Similarly, majority of people on this planet understand implicitly yy/mm/dd or dd/mm/yy, but because Americans do not by default, everyone else must adhere to what the Americans are doing. Whatever is the policy, strategy of a fortune 500 company (whatever that means), you will do as they do, or expect the American army to arrive and enforce their rules. Resistance is futile... The fact is, organisers have made certain decisions (preferential use of mailing lists, disdain for web forums, advice to post comments for advice, etc.) and people have chosen to complain that they don't like these decisions. In the world of free software, there is nothing to stop such people from creating their own new fork; with that some suggestions: Create a new office software suite, call it something like peopleoffice. Specify top posting as the rule by which help/advice will only be offered. Better still, avoid mailing list altogether and use a bulletin board software platform. Go away from LO. Good luck. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Full width, no margins
Hi :) How do you get the 2 documents side-by-side? Is that a KDE thing? or do you just arrange the windows 'by-hand'? Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to unsubscribe
Hello, it seems that during the last days, people had issues with unsubscribing from this mailing list. This led to the TDF mail server being listed in a spam blacklist. I researched the message IDs, and they clearly referred to postings on this mailing list, that have not been spam. As we use double opt-in mechanism and give information on how to unsubscribe at the footer of each mail, I managed to get us unlisted again, but this costs lots of time. So, if anyone on this list has issues with unsubscribing and cannot manage them on their own, feel free to contact postmas...@documentfoundation.org directly, where one of our administrators will unsubscribe you manually, if needed. Before filing spam complaints that are not justified, and cost hours of our volunteer (!) work, please get in touch with us first. I am sure any issues can be solved without involving third parties. NB: I am *not* subscribed to this mailing list (users@), so if you want to follow-up with me, write to me directly or to the postmaster alias. Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Charts
how one can draw a chart with x or y axis (or both) will be on log scale? Reuven -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Tom Davies Wed, 01 Jun 2011 02:53:39 -0700 Hi :) I don't think there are people arguing that top-posting MUST be the ONLY way. On the contrary, we are pointing out that if the product is to be used by more people than are currently using it, especially if we want office workers to use it, then we have to be prepared for many of those to be unused to bottom posting. With respect, this is weak. A native English speaker seeking to learn Mandarin cannot be expected to be tolerated for refusing to adjust to learning new rules of grammar/syntax and instead continuing to apply English grammatical rules during Mandarin conversation. An office worker who cannot understand simple posting rules is probably going to waste programmers' time by asking: where's the ribbon? or what is a regular expression? and would be better staying within the m$ world. I am sick of this argument. I have never been so brow-beaten or bullied in the supposedly Open world that supposedly encourages free-thinking and diversity. Instead it seems that LibreOffice is very restrictive, at least on the users list if nowhere else. Is Libre about freedom or about restrictions? Freedom to accept new rules and methods or go and create your own...Never forget, it is the user who chooses _of their own volition_ to use gnu/linux or apple macinto$h or window$. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Yes, Zed, but that DOES NOT WORK!! -Original Message- From: Zed [mailto:z...@zed.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:22 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation Richard rich...@hornick.us wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. The following appears at the bottom of every post you receive. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Zed -- Zed COMPUTER LITERACY? You mean my computer can READ?! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
On 1/06/11 8:16 PM, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hello Steve, On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:27:56 +1200 Steve Edmondssteve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: Hi. I have got myself into a state with numbering that may be someone could help me get out of, or if there is no way out may be it will lead to a bug being filed. I have been making notes for a company LO styles usage manual and looking at what users have been doing and what they should have done and how to fix up their manuals. I will simply explain how to recreate the problem and possibly someone can help me with the correction. 1-Create a new writer document. 2-Add say 5 lines of text. 3-Apply list style Numbering 1 to get outline numbering. 4-Highlight line 2 and Demote one level 5-With line 2 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. The size of the outline numbering on line 2 changes to match. This is all as expected and as historically has happened through LO and OO. 6-Now click on the outline numbering (so just the numbering is highlighted in gray) And change the font to another font and change the font size to another size. The outline numbering all changes. 7-highlight line 4 and Demote one level 8-With line 4 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. For your points 5 and 6 you are hard formatting the appearance of the text. Instead do the following: Highlight the text of your point 5, press F11 to get the styles and formatting window, and modify the corresponding (highlighted) style, that is applied to this text. Do the same for the formatting of your outline numbering. The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. This is probably because hard formatted text takes precedence over applied styles. To remove your hard formatting mark (highlight) all your text and select Default formatting. Once this is done, you can modify the styles for the outline numbering in any way you want - but use the styles and formatting window to do this. :) Thanks, but I find that if you follow my example hard formatting the font using Default formatting does not clear the hard formatting. I can't seem to get rid of it and any new lists are created with the same hard formatting. steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Full width, no margins
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) How do you get the 2 documents side-by-side? Is that a KDE thing? or do you just arrange the windows 'by-hand'? Regards from Tom :) In KDE =4.4 one can drag the window title bar to the sides of the screen and the window manager automatically sizes the window at full screen height (minus DE panels) and half-screen width (minus DE panels), aligned to the side of the screen to which the window title bar was dragged (or next to DE panels on that side). I believe that Windows 7 has a similar feature, as does Compiz. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On 2011-05-31 3:24 PM, Tom Davies wrote: So, the argument is that people should follow rules(although they are really only guidelines) in order to not be a drone? Tom, you have a proclivity for ignoring what is said and hearing only what you want to hear. That is not what I said, and you know it - just like you know that no one advocates bottom/inline posting without trimming, yet you constantly ignore that and always resort to saying how ugly bottom posting is because 'you have to scroll all the way down below all of the untrimmed text to get to the reply' as an argument against it. You are a troll, Tom, at least with respect to this argument. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On 2011-06-01 12:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Assuming it works. Sometimes systems fail to show a difference between the previous posting and the reply. Only if improperly configured. If everyone used the same system then it might work. But different people need different systems for different reasons. Almost all 'systems' (by this I presume you mean mail clients) can be configured to properly show email quotes - if a 'system' won't allow it, then file a bug report and get it fixed, or don't use it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] embed flash into presentations
Hi Conar, Alejo C.S. wrote (31-05-11 15:25) I'm using LibreOffice (3.3.2) in Debian stable. I'd like to know if there is a way to embed a swf (flash) file into impress. Searching, I found and old post where say it could be done in OOo, but that recipe don't work in LibOO. Any tip? Not (yet). I never used it. Could you post a link to the old trick? That might help finding a solution. Best, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Dotan, LOL! Thanks for a bit of humor amid all the vitriol expressed in the top/bottom posting thread.. -- I'm so busy, I don't know whether I found a rope or lost my horse! Earl -- From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 09:22, Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com wrote: 1 The Art of Slamming Head Against Wall 1.1 Place Palms Flat Against Wall 1.2 Bend Elbows 45 degrees 1.3 Rear Head Back as far as Possible 1.4 Throw Body Weight Behind Forward Head Movement This does not work. I tried three times and all three times my chest hit the wall before my head. I suggest snapping the head forward in a whip-like fashion, with the intent on getting the forehead as the leading edge as soon as possible (the forehead starts facing up, due to the head reared back). With this method I hit the wall with my forehead two tries out of three, with the third hitting my nose. Note that a nose hit results in more blood loss than a forehead hit, but consciousness is regained sooner. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Charts
Hi, On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:23:44 +0300 reuven g_reuv...@bezeqint.net wrote: how one can draw a chart with x or y axis (or both) will be on log scale? You need to use a x-y-diagram. When selecting the range that should be displayed and all the other needed settings, there's a checkbox that you can check for each axis to be divided logarithmically. HTH. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Full width, no margins
Hi :) I have heard good reports of the KDE implementation but haven't heard from Win7 users about it. In Gnome i switch compiz off if possible, certainly on the machine at work. When i eventually got both documents side-by-side filling nearly half the screen each (ratio 4:3, not wide-screen) i was able to use Printer view but even at the recommended (but rarely used) font size 12 in Times New Roman the characters were fairly tiny, not quite microscopic but heading that way! In the cc to Dotan i have included a screen-shot to show what i get. Afaik there are some fairly sophisticated tools to compare different documents if you are just looking for revisions or minor differences. The Help file suggests Open the reviewer's document andthen choose Edit - Compare Document Note that you should always start with opening the newer document and compare it with the older document. (well, slightly edited but almost word-for-word) This is about the first time i have seen a good reason for having wide-screen rather than tilting it to make it tall-screen which is usually unsupported and 'weird'. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] embed flash into presentations
Hi :) I think Impress files can be Save As ... to flash (swf) format but i am not certain that Impress can open and edit the flash files produced that way. I suspect it's a bit like using pdf, ie keep the original in odf formats (odp in this case) to edit and create a new swf if required. Sorry this doesn't really help with the problem as stated but hopefully it might nudge something loose. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 12:35:36 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] embed flash into presentations Hi Conar, Alejo C.S. wrote (31-05-11 15:25) I'm using LibreOffice (3.3.2) in Debian stable. I'd like to know if there is a way to embed a swf (flash) file into impress. Searching, I found and old post where say it could be done in OOo, but that recipe don't work in LibOO. Any tip? Not (yet). I never used it. Could you post a link to the old trick? That might help finding a solution. Best, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Full width, no margins
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 15:26, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Hello there! I have heard good reports of the KDE implementation but haven't heard from Win7 users about it. In Gnome i switch compiz off if possible, certainly on the machine at work. It has been a long time since Compiz was just eyecandy. It is great for accessibility and usability now. When i eventually got both documents side-by-side filling nearly half the screen each (ratio 4:3, not wide-screen) i was able to use Printer view but even at the recommended (but rarely used) font size 12 in Times New Roman the characters were fairly tiny, not quite microscopic but heading that way! In the cc to Dotan i have included a screen-shot to show what i get. Afaik there are some fairly sophisticated tools to compare different documents if you are just looking for revisions or minor differences. Thanks. I'm not diffing but rather translating. From your screenshot I created a mockup idea for the feature that I'm looking for, on the left-hand window only, were it to exist: http://dotancohen.com/images/proposed.png Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 15:00, Earl Melton earlemel...@yahoo.com wrote: Dotan, LOL! Thanks for a bit of humor amid all the vitriol expressed in the top/bottom posting thread.. And you'll notice my adversary in that thread helping me out in another thread. That's a community, we disagree on some things but we all help each other out. If only such a relationship could be established with my neighbours... Sorry for the OT. Back to getting Style properly configured... why doesn't LO / OOo give an option to change _all_ text of a particular style when one style is edited? I might just have to go file a feature request on that. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Macro Security Crash
LibreOffice 3.3.2 Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 Ubuntu 11.04 / Gnome 2.32.1 / kernel 2.6.38-9 every time I go to ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeSecurity and click on Macro Security all open documents close without saving. I must enable Macro's! Any help would be very much appreciated. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 14:37:42 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 15:00, Earl Melton earlemel...@yahoo.com wrote: Dotan, LOL! Thanks for a bit of humor amid all the vitriol expressed in the top/bottom posting thread.. And you'll notice my adversary in that thread helping me out in another thread. That's a community, we disagree on some things but we all help each other out. If only such a relationship could be established with my neighbours... Sorry for the OT. Back to getting Style properly configured... why doesn't LO / OOo give an option to change _all_ text of a particular style when one style is edited? I might just have to go file a feature request on that. Dotan Cohen Hi :) Lol, yes. Some people think that Community means everyone loves each other like 1 big happy hippy family. I've yet to see a truely happy family, especially hippy ones. Most murders are committed by loved ones so luckily we aren't all that close and are ready to argue where we can but help where needed. Good luck and regard from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Full width, no margins
Dotan Cohen wrote: In KDE =4.4 one can drag the window title bar to the sides of the screen and the window manager automatically sizes the window at full screen height (minus DE panels) and half-screen width (minus DE panels), aligned to the side of the screen to which the window title bar was dragged (or next to DE panels on that side). I believe that Windows 7 has a similar feature, as does Compiz. I can confirm that Win7 has the same behaviour. I believe Ubuntu 11.04 also has this (in the default installation). Regards Jack -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Full-width-no-margins-tp3009686p3010922.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Full width, no margins
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 17:10, Jack szi...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm that Win7 has the same behaviour. I believe Ubuntu 11.04 also has this (in the default installation). Thanks, I'll file a bug. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Full width, no margins
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 16:48, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Maybe posting as a bug-report wish-list item might get a response but its probably worth waiting for something better here first. Good luck and regards from Tom :) Good idea, I posted the RFE to both LO and to OOo: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37817 http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118120 Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 10:52:42 +0100 (BST) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I don't think there are people arguing that top-posting MUST be the ONLY way. On the contrary, we are pointing out that if the product is to be used by more people than are currently using it, especially if we want office workers to use it, then we have to be prepared for many of those to be unused to bottom posting. Um, the developer community runs the list. They don't have to, but they do. They provide a product for free. They provide a forum for help, for free. I would risk the statement that it is their privilege to lay down the general rules and ask people to adhere to them. After all, it's their list. I am sick of this argument. I have never been so brow-beaten or bullied in the supposedly Open world that supposedly encourages free-thinking and diversity. Instead it seems that LibreOffice is very restrictive, at least on the users list if nowhere else. Is Libre about freedom or about restrictions? Regards from Tom :) OK, a low-brow explanation; idea stolen from Dave Barry. You don't go to a smooth jazz fancy fingerfood party and start farting. Not because it is explicitely forbidden by some law, but because most people at such a party are not particularly keen on hearing and smelling fart. What's more, if you do go and start farting, they might ask you not to do it. Now, one possibility is to argue with them that it is your unalienable human right to fart wherever and whenever it pleases you and if they don't like it then they are oppressive fascists tyrants, enemies of freedom and so on. The alternative possibility is to realise that it is not your party and simply stop farting. Naturally, you can organise an alternative, the skunks will beg for the recipe farting party and frown upon any guest who as much as twicthes the nose, let alone starting to spray industrial strength air freshener around. Indeed, you'd have every right to feel offended is that guest with the freshener also lectured you that your not liking the spraying on your party is restrictive beghaviour, against diversity and free-thinking and it is positively bullying. By the way, some 20 years ago I thought that this whole top-posting nonsense was sorted out once and for all after a handful of really massive flame wars on USENET, crossposted all over the place and people getting so sick and tired of the whole thing that they plonked anyone even raising the issue again. Gee, was I wrong or what. It's like a phoenix, gets up again and again. Damned scary, really. Zoltan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Here is a relevant feature request: Update styles when text is formatted https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37819 http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118122 -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 2011-06-01 10:10 AM, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: By the way, some 20 years ago I thought that this whole top-posting nonsense was sorted out once and for all after a handful of really massive flame wars on USENET, crossposted all over the place and people getting so sick and tired of the whole thing that they plonked anyone even raising the issue again. Gee, was I wrong or what. It's like a phoenix, gets up again and again. Damned scary, really. Actually, I think it's hilarious... I only engage in these kinds of flame wars when I'm bored, because I know I'll rarely every change anyone's mind... although it has happened on occasion (believe it or not)... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I have to ask (four qustions)
2011/6/1 toki toki.kant...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/05/2011 10:36, Nuzhna Pomoshch wrote: 1. Why is the default column width in Calc 2.27 cm? Where does that number come from? That is supposed to be one inch wide. (I know that one inch is 25.4mm, but the conversion was incorrectly done, and hasn't been changed since then.) I was also trying to figure out why 2.27, and now when you said that I think I know the answer. As most of us know, 1=25,4 mm = 2,54 cm. It seems like someone confused 1 and ½. INstead of doubling ½ to 2·1.27 cm, only the integer part was double and the decimals were kept as they were, therefore 2.27 cm. That COULD happen if you think way too fast… Regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ How do I change it It is hard wired into LibO. :( I've seen a code snippet that enables users to change it in OOo, but you have to recompile OOo to take advantage of it. This should be something that can be changed at Tools Options Calc General. Whilst changing the column size on the default template should work, experience has shown that to be inconsistent. 2. I sometimes need to work in cm, and sometimes in inches. How do I change from one to the other? You have to switch from a metric to an English locale. And then restart LibO. Tools Options languages Locale Setting 3. How do I get hidden (dot directories) to appear in the open and save dialog boxes (they appear in all of the window manager dialog boxes)? This depends upon the file manager that is used. 4. Why is it so !@#$%^* hard to format cells (this has continued from OpenOffice)? You have to use cell styles. Cell styles are neither difficult, nor complicated to use. However, for reasons I don't understand, people are reluctant to use them. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5YKBAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVFlcIAIpeTGddVB+edX3oqUxZOrBS b1tYVVNozSHqvJo9uZIfkf/tObPDtDeSNqsNKqiA0G0vs/dPW7AxVZFv25w6D50V b8cyr62J6PqhYdxPgj4tElKZ6zKArOlaeD+gHFznrlehU6zFCs90ARw7KKVski2B Ro6SoqQyFutW0l5Iin/COFgn3AP92jgp0oQKa1KiAmD06pf8tb0gbBaC4fMcFTl1 LIQ7gTUhrjX7nGe/M3vbF/aD8vXA5GAyk1y+DOh+PUbj9K49srUPmlx1a7ZxsYC6 1XexAFnlM4qC9KlwqEn/qF8lGH/HtN71vmNBB2Gomz46Cb1PmPorXFb9vMaOiJo= =XOsK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro Security Crash
Hi Kurt, Kurt schrieb: LibreOffice 3.3.2 Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 Ubuntu 11.04 / Gnome 2.32.1 / kernel 2.6.38-9 every time I go to ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeSecurity and click on Macro Security all open documents close without saving. I must enable Macro's! That problem is solved in LibreOffice 3.4.0 rc2. Please use that version. As workaround it is possible to edit the file user\registrymodifications.xcu You need item oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.Common/Security/Scriptingprop oor:name=MacroSecurityLevel oor:op=fusevalue1/value/prop/item valuee 1 is the setting medium. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Hi Steve, Steve Edmonds schrieb: [long decription] The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. My question is how do I undo this so that the outline numbering will again follow the characteristics of the text it appears in front of. Go to character style Numbering Symbol. On the tab Font or on the tab Font effects (depends on your settings) click on the button Standard. Go to the tab Organizer. There should be no entries in section Contains. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli
Here is a new article about OOo and LibreOffice. I do not remember hearing this statement before: after Oracle booted out the LibreOffice fork developers from OpenOffice Where did that come from? - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/what-the-heck-is-happening-with-openoffice-update/9025?alertspromo=tag=nl.rSINGLE http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/what-the-heck-is-happening-with-openoffice-update/9025?alertspromo=tag=nl.rSINGLE quote What the heck is happening with OpenOffice? (UPDATE) By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | May 31, 2011, 10:42am PDT This weekend was filled with rumors about the fate of OpenOffice. Oracle essentially abandoned OpenOffice, after The Document Foundation's LibreOffice fork but rumor has it that IBM wants the project to continue. The big question, which is still unresolved as I write this, is, How? At the moment, almost all of what I have are comments from people close to the matter who are unable to go on the record. That said, here's my current understanding of what's going on with OpenOffice. First, after Oracle booted out the LibreOffice fork developers from OpenOffice, Oracle still didn't want to invest anymore in OpenOffice. As Edward Screven, Oracle's Chief Corporate Architect, said in April, Given the breadth of interest in free personal productivity applications and the rapid evolution of personal computing technologies, we believe the OpenOffice.org project would be best managed by an organization focused on serving that broad constituency on a non-commercial basis. We intend to begin working immediately with community members to further the continued success of Open Office. Oracle will continue to strongly support the adoption of open standards-based document formats, such as the Open Document Format (ODF). If that sounds like a contradiction in terms: OpenOffice is doing so well that Oracle doesn't want to manage-read pay for it-you're not the only one to see it that way. As Louis Suárez-Potts' OpenOffice's Community Manager and former Oracle staffer, told my buddy Brian Proffitt that no one's really sure what Oracle plans for OpenOffice, or what's more important, what it means for the ODF. People like the ODF simply because of its enormously successful flexibility, Suárez-Potts told Proffitt. OpenOffice, LibreOffice, IBM's Symphony and Google Docs all use ODF. But, with Oracle taking a hands off approach to OpenOffice and ODF, what does that mean for the format? Suárez-Potts saw four possible futures for OpenOffice. Neglect, which is where we're at now, was the worst choice by far. The others were to spin OpenOffice to a new foundation with broad industry support; join it with an already existing open-source foundation with broad corporate support such as the Apache Software Foundation or The Eclipse Foundation; or to join up with the Document Foundation's LibreOffice fork. It now seems that IBM, which has invested millions in OpenOffice over the years, and uses it as the basis for its Symphony office suite, preferred the option of OpenOffice being spun off to The Apache Foundation. Oracle, which I'm told has contractual obligations to IBM to see that OpenOffice continued to be developed, was fine with this. Unfortunately for IBM and Oracle, my sources tell me that Apache was not so enamored of the idea and has turned it down. I can see why Apache would want to steer clear of the deal. Apache has not been on good terms with Oracle for several months now after fighting with the company over how Oracle had been managing the Java Community Process. In addition, Apache had also had problems with IBM and Oracle over their support for the open-source Java Standard Edition (SE) OpenJDK over Apache's open-source Java SE Project Harmony. In addition, much of OpenOffice's GPL code isn't compatible with the Apache Foundations' Apache license. The Document Foundation thinks Oracle should donate OpenOffice's code and intellectual property (IP) to them. Italo Vignoli, a member of the Document Foundation's steering committee, told me, that if Oracle does spin these materials off to another body, Oracle is missing the opportunity to re-unite the OOo community governance. The Document Foundation remains open to every company and individual that wishes to participate in co-development. There has never been a better time to get involved and advance the state of the art in free-software office suites. But what will really happen? I don't know. I do know, based on all the bits and pieces I've been hearing that Oracle, at least, doesn't want to give the OpenOffice to LibreOffice. IBM feels more neutral about it. In the end, I see OpenOffice going to another organization. My best guess at this point is that it will be The Eclipse Foundation. One way or the other, it appears that OpenOffice will continue on. UPDATE: Sources tell me that
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Hi :) I noticed a relevant email about this sort of thing earlier today so i have forwarded the request to the postmaster email address So, if anyone on this list has issues with unsubscribing and cannot manage them on their own, feel free to contact postmas...@documentfoundation.org I hope this helps! Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Richard rich...@hornick.us To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 17:49:19 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation Yes, Zed, but that DOES NOT WORK!! -Original Message- From: Zed [mailto:z...@zed.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:22 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation Richard rich...@hornick.us wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. The following appears at the bottom of every post you receive. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Zed -- Zed COMPUTER LITERACY? You mean my computer can READ?! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Unsubscription issues?
Hello, one more note to unsubscribing, as this seems to occur often: The address you use for unsubscribing has to be the *SAME* as the one you used for subscribing. If you subscribe with y...@yourcompany.com and unsubscribe with y...@yourprivateaccount.org, it can *NOT* work, as our mailing list system for sure cannot know who you are. So, if you try unsubscribing and it doesn't work, please double-check it's the right address. You can also have a look at the message headers to find out which account the mail was delivered to. If in doubt: Do not rant on the list, but rather write to the humans who can help you, i.e. our team of admins, at postmas...@documentfoundation.org We usually reply within a few hours. And again, please do *NOT* open tickets on spam reporting sites. It is *NOT* our fault if you use the wrong address. We can help you, but you need to let us know. Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscription issues?
On 2011-06-01 12:06 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: The address you use for unsubscribing has to be the *SAME* as the one you used for subscribing. If you subscribe with y...@yourcompany.com and unsubscribe with y...@yourprivateaccount.org, it can *NOT* work, as our mailing list system for sure cannot know who you are. Creating a web page where the user can manage their list subscription(s) should be made a priority, for obvious reasons. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli
Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Bottom and mid-posting are legacy architectures with a few desperate dinosaurs still clinging to them. The Fortunate 500 is a global thing, not an American thing these days. Many of the corporations in it are not American, and all of them are hoping to one day get in it. On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 00:10 +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 10:52:42 +0100 (BST) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I don't think there are people arguing that top-posting MUST be the ONLY way. On the contrary, we are pointing out that if the product is to be used by more people than are currently using it, especially if we want office workers to use it, then we have to be prepared for many of those to be unused to bottom posting. Um, the developer community runs the list. They don't have to, but they do. They provide a product for free. They provide a forum for help, for free. I would risk the statement that it is their privilege to lay down the general rules and ask people to adhere to them. After all, it's their list. I am sick of this argument. I have never been so brow-beaten or bullied in the supposedly Open world that supposedly encourages free-thinking and diversity. Instead it seems that LibreOffice is very restrictive, at least on the users list if nowhere else. Is Libre about freedom or about restrictions? Regards from Tom :) OK, a low-brow explanation; idea stolen from Dave Barry. You don't go to a smooth jazz fancy fingerfood party and start farting. Not because it is explicitely forbidden by some law, but because most people at such a party are not particularly keen on hearing and smelling fart. What's more, if you do go and start farting, they might ask you not to do it. Now, one possibility is to argue with them that it is your unalienable human right to fart wherever and whenever it pleases you and if they don't like it then they are oppressive fascists tyrants, enemies of freedom and so on. The alternative possibility is to realise that it is not your party and simply stop farting. Naturally, you can organise an alternative, the skunks will beg for the recipe farting party and frown upon any guest who as much as twicthes the nose, let alone starting to spray industrial strength air freshener around. Indeed, you'd have every right to feel offended is that guest with the freshener also lectured you that your not liking the spraying on your party is restrictive beghaviour, against diversity and free-thinking and it is positively bullying. By the way, some 20 years ago I thought that this whole top-posting nonsense was sorted out once and for all after a handful of really massive flame wars on USENET, crossposted all over the place and people getting so sick and tired of the whole thing that they plonked anyone even raising the issue again. Gee, was I wrong or what. It's like a phoenix, gets up again and again. Damned scary, really. Zoltan -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli
Hi, At least it seems to be people that have a good relationship with TDF. Good work Florian and all :) Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 17:52:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to remove options from the Save As list (Writer)
Haven't found this info anywhere: When I do a Save As in Writer, a pile of options appear in the drop down, including something like three different versions of .doc. I don't need all of these and the cluttered list slows me down a little every time I do a Save As... which is quite often. So, can I edit that list somewhere to only show what I have use for? (By the way: would be a nice future feature to have this in Options somewhere) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-remove-options-from-the-Save-As-list-Writer-tp3011755p3011755.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
On 2/06/11 3:20 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Steve, Steve Edmonds schrieb: [long decription] The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. My question is how do I undo this so that the outline numbering will again follow the characteristics of the text it appears in front of. Go to character style Numbering Symbol. On the tab Font or on the tab Font effects (depends on your settings) click on the button Standard. Go to the tab Organizer. There should be no entries in section Contains. Thanks for your help Regina. I see the entries in organiser that must be cleared. In Font I have only font, typeface, size and language selections. In Font Effects I have no button Standard, just 6 list selectors and 4 tick boxes (Outline, Shadow, Blinking, Hidden). I have LO 3.3.2 on mac. steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
On 01/06/11 18:08, Tom Davies wrote: Hi, At least it seems to be people that have a good relationship with TDF. Good work Florian and all :) Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 17:52:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex This is utterly absurd. I don't mind whether people top or bottom post, although I do have a preference. Deliberately mixing them just to make a point (and this isn't the only example) is plain stupid and /totally/ wrecks any flow of the contained messages. I was going to plonk the culprit(s), but that would still leave the messy replies. It's easier to unsubscribe; which means I'll be sticking with OOo at least for now, when I was seriously intending to switch. Clock up loss of one potential user, at least for now. And ask how many others are put off by the selfish and thoughtless attitude displayed by some here. When I've cooled down I might be back. It's going to be a long hot summer. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro Security Crash
Regina, Thank YOU! 3.4 is working perfectly! Kurt -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli
On 06/01/2011 12:52 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex Yes, I saw that after I posted the thread. Also, the info about the TDF developers were booted out of developing OOo seems weird to me. I would like to know where he got that info. When you quit the development of OOo on your own accord, does not mean you got booted out. Something is wrong with his statement. No wonder he could not get someone to go on the record about that statement. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove options from the Save As list (Writer)
Hi ..., aharown07 wrote (01-06-11 19:11) Haven't found this info anywhere: When I do a Save As in Writer, a pile of options appear in the drop down, including something like three different versions of .doc. I don't need all of these and the cluttered list slows me down a little every time I do a Save As... which is quite often. So, can I edit that list somewhere to only show what I have use for? Only in the source code, I guess. (By the way: would be a nice future feature to have this in Options somewhere) Think so yes. In the mean time, maybe a little relief can be brought by typing the first letter of the filter name. E.g. M ;-) Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
On 1/06/11 9:06 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Steve. Steve Edmonds wrote (01-06-11 03:27) 3-Apply list style Numbering 1 to get outline numbering. The only advice I want to give you: set up outline numbering via Tools Outline numbering, which uses Heading 1, 2 etc. Only if you need something that can not be done there, start working with list styles. Thanks. I have set up Outline Numbering as I wish. Can I confirm I understand the correct use. I have my page of unformatted text where I want to establish outline numbering. -I highlight the top level text and select Heading 1. (no numbering shows, just heading 1 formatted text) -I click Numbering On/Off in the tool bar or press F12 to have numbering applied. - I highlight the 2nd level text and select Heading 2. (no numbering shows, just heading 2 formatted text) -I click Numbering On/Off in the tool bar or press F12 to have numbering applied. -etc. etc. steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Hallo Steve, Steve Edmonds schrieb: On 2/06/11 3:20 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Steve, Steve Edmonds schrieb: [long decription] The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. My question is how do I undo this so that the outline numbering will again follow the characteristics of the text it appears in front of. Go to character style Numbering Symbol. On the tab Font or on the tab Font effects (depends on your settings) click on the button Standard. Go to the tab Organizer. There should be no entries in section Contains. Thanks for your help Regina. I see the entries in organiser that must be cleared. In Font I have only font, typeface, size and language selections. In Font Effects I have no button Standard, just 6 list selectors and 4 tick boxes (Outline, Shadow, Blinking, Hidden). I have LO 3.3.2 on mac. I have no mac, so I cannot say whether this is typical for mac or a bug. Each tab should have a Standard button. Can you try another version, perhaps LO3.4.0 rc2? The settings are bounded to the document. So perhaps it works for you, when you open parallel a new document with default numbering, and then go to File Templates Organize and copy the style Numbering 1. If you see white and transparent in the Organize tab, that is probably OK too. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove options from the Save As list (Writer)
Hi :) Or you could change the defaults that are used. Initially they are set as odf; odt, ods, opd but these could easily be changed to doc, xls, ppt Tools - Options - Load/Save - General and then use the drop-downs to scroll their formats back 1 or 2 places (avoiding template formats). Does LibreOffice/OpenOffice behave a bit like Gimp? Can you just type in the file-ending to make it save in the format you want? Regards from Tom :) From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 20:13:41 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove options from the Save As list (Writer) Hi ..., aharown07 wrote (01-06-11 19:11) Haven't found this info anywhere: When I do a Save As in Writer, a pile of options appear in the drop down, including something like three different versions of .doc. I don't need all of these and the cluttered list slows me down a little every time I do a Save As... which is quite often. So, can I edit that list somewhere to only show what I have use for? Only in the source code, I guess. (By the way: would be a nice future feature to have this in Options somewhere) Think so yes. In the mean time, maybe a little relief can be brought by typing the first letter of the filter name. E.g. M ;-) Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 19:42:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli On 06/01/2011 12:52 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex Yes, I saw that after I posted the thread. Also, the info about the TDF developers were booted out of developing OOo seems weird to me. I would like to know where he got that info. When you quit the development of OOo on your own accord, does not mean you got booted out. Something is wrong with his statement. No wonder he could not get someone to go on the record about that statement. Hi :) The article contradicts itself on that point. In a way Oracle did push the first few people out by their lack of communication about plans for the future and by refusing to allow bug-patches and stuff to be added by failing to give anyone any confidence in the longer-term prospects. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: embed flash into presentations
On 06/01/2011 04:10 PM, NoOp wrote: On 06/01/2011 04:35 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Conar, Alejo C.S. wrote (31-05-11 15:25) I'm using LibreOffice (3.3.2) in Debian stable. I'd like to know if there is a way to embed a swf (flash) file into impress. Searching, I found and old post where say it could be done in OOo, but that recipe don't work in LibOO. Any tip? Not (yet). I never used it. Could you post a link to the old trick? That might help finding a solution. ... No idea if this still works, but this might be of interest: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88273 [Embedding .swf Files] Note: LO does have a Shockwave Flash option in Insert|Object Plugin - but I'll have to open a Windows VM to see if the the info in the bug works. I just tried the .swf mentioned in the bug report. Insterted into LO 3.4 on Windows the animation plays just fine. Now I'll need to figure out how to do in linux - maybe have to link it to gnash swf standalone player. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to remove options from the Save As list (Writer)
I think that you have to use the simple Save option and the document will save with the format that you are using. The first time it put a message that says that it isn't save and when you click ok, it go to save option. At this time you have to select the format that you want to use for it. For the rest time that you use the simple Save option, it save as it was save the first time. Whe you chose .doc, it put a message if you want to keep the format o change ... but it has a chek box to select it won't appear again. Regards, Jorge Rodríguez __ El mié, 01-06-2011 a las 10:11 -0700, aharown07 escribió: Haven't found this info anywhere: When I do a Save As in Writer, a pile of options appear in the drop down, including something like three different versions of .doc. I don't need all of these and the cluttered list slows me down a little every time I do a Save As... which is quite often. So, can I edit that list somewhere to only show what I have use for? (By the way: would be a nice future feature to have this in Options somewhere) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-remove-options-from-the-Save-As-list-Writer-tp3011755p3011755.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove options from the Save As list (Writer)
Thanks, all. The defaults are not an issue for me. I use odt most of the time but fairly often have to save as a .doc for sending to someone who needs it that way. But I sure don't need half a dozen old versions of .doc. The M hotkey might just be all I need if it goes to the right choice. Will try that. I have my answer: only in the source code. So a more convenient method there will have to wait until someone codes it into the Options somewhere I guess. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-remove-options-from-the-Save-As-list-Writer-tp3011755p3013505.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: embed flash into presentations
On 06/01/2011 04:35 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Conar, Alejo C.S. wrote (31-05-11 15:25) I'm using LibreOffice (3.3.2) in Debian stable. I'd like to know if there is a way to embed a swf (flash) file into impress. Searching, I found and old post where say it could be done in OOo, but that recipe don't work in LibOO. Any tip? Not (yet). I never used it. Could you post a link to the old trick? That might help finding a solution. ... Maybe this one: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_Movies_in_Impress_on_Linux_Without_Java -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
