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Re: [libreoffice-users] imported styles changed alignment

2024-05-14 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Robert,

On 14/05/2024 16:04, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Philip,


I would expect styles to be imported without any change happening during the 
import. Is there a setting I missed somewhere?


Before choosing the file: Did you click "Overwrite" in dialog for loading 
styles. If there is a style with the same name it won't be imported with the new features 
by default.

Thanks for that info. No, I did'nt notice the 'Overwrite' box. And the new file 
I started in haste was just a 'generic' Writer document and not from one of my 
templates. That means that the style Text Body was in its virgin state with 
left align.

The problem was, I guess, connected with inheritance. All the new styles I 
wanted to gather from the import of another document depended on (inherited 
from) Text Body.  Of course, in my imported file, Text Body and its other 
relatives had long since been modified to justified.

I never use the bog standard Text Body style so I never thought to check it the 
new, receiving, file.

I just ran another test using 'overwrite' and that solved the problem. Thanks.

Best,

Philip

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[libreoffice-users] imported styles changed alignment

2024-05-14 Thread Philip Jackson


LO version 7.3.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 20.04 LTS

When I imported a set of styles from another Writer document using the 
procedure :

Styles > Load style from template > From File

all those paragraph styles which had been with 'justified alignment' were 'left 
aligned' after the import.

The couple of styles which had been center aligned and right aligned, retained 
those characteristics after import.

I would expect styles to be imported without any change happening during the 
import. Is there a setting I missed somewhere?

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Annoying reformatting issue.

2024-04-14 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Chris,

On 13/04/2024 18:10, Chris J. wrote:

Ubuntu linux 23.10

LibreOffice 7.6.5.2


So, question; is there a way to automate the application of the styles and 
remove the tabs at the beginning of paragraphs. Normal find and replaces 
doesn't cut it. Otherwise I'm forced to go through several books by hand.


You can find tabs using the standard Find and Replace (Ctrl+H). In the Find 
box, enter \t and leave the Replace box  empty.

You will need to check the *Regular Expressions* box in the Find and Replace 
dialog.

Like all Find and Replace ops, be wary of hitting the 'Replace All' button in 
case you have used tabs anywhere else in the document other than at the start 
of a paragraph. \t will locate all the tabs used within the the doc.

If you *only* want to find a tab at the beginning of a paragraph, you can use 
^\t in the Find box.  I checked this in LO 7.3.7.2 in Ubuntu 2204 and it works 
fine.

You can also use Find and Replace to locate one paragraph style and replace it 
with another. In this case you will have to select the Paragraph Styles box. 
This operation works fine to change styles but it will not remove any 'ad hoc' 
manual formatting such as Bold, Italic, tabs which you may have applied in the 
unwanted paragraph style's text.



hth
Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-07 Thread Philip Jackson


On 06/03/2024 15:01, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2024/03/06 22:55, Philip Jackson wrote:

When you say you have applied chapter styles, are you talking about a 
particular heading sty;le for the beginning of a chapter or are you talking 
about a particular page style for the first page of a chapter?

I would typically use a Heading 1 style for the chapter heading and would 
modify it to include things like font size and style, page break before, set up 
a larger space before the heading and set the outline level at 1. And then I 
would have a special page style for that page with no header and right hand 
only.

I don't ever recall having had the variable font output that you mention.

It would be good to see an example of your problem.

Philip


Thank you.
Yes, I used a Heading 2 style (already my custom style) to create a style for 
CHAPTER TITLES with said font and font size settings.
Sample: I don't think I can attach a file here on the list.
Would a link to a file on Google drive etc. help?
Thomas


You're right in that you can't attach files in this list.  Google docs link 
should do it.
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help - how to get rid of 'administrator'

2024-03-06 Thread Philip Jackson


Are you sure this isn't a Windows' problem? Typically it's Windows that has 
stuff blocked and restricted to those with administrator privileges.
Philip

On 06/03/2024 22:56, Emily Scharf wrote:

I have used Libreoffice for years. But recently I downloaded it and -
mistakenly - responded to an option for greater security.  This turns out
to be 'administrator' which continually blocks me from anything but
read-only documents.

How do I turn off the 'administrator'?  I even tried to uninstall and
download again and it is still happening with my documents..

If I cannot stop the 'administrator' I will be forced to use another
programme (though I have used LibreOffice for years)

Thank you for your help.

Emily from London

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-06 Thread Philip Jackson


When you say you have applied chapter styles, are you talking about a 
particular heading sty;le for the beginning of a chapter or are you talking 
about a particular page style for the first page of a chapter?

I would typically use a Heading 1 style for the chapter heading and would 
modify it to include things like font size and style, page break before, set up 
a larger space before the heading and set the outline level at 1. And then I 
would have a special page style for that page with no header and right hand 
only.

I don't ever recall having had the variable font output that you mention.

It would be good to see an example of your problem.

Philip

On 06/03/2024 11:23, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am working on a book and applied
* chapter styles
* heading styles
and a few not so important other styles.

Question:
The chapter style specifies a certain font and font size, plus italic.
For each chapter the little dialog box in the left upper corner shows the style 
name, font name and font size I specified.
However I noticed, that for some chapters even though style name etc. is as I 
specified, the actually used font and font size are different.
Trying Ctrl+M and then applying my style does NOT help.

Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.

Thank you.
Thomas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Autocorrect not working

2024-03-03 Thread Philip Jackson


I recently did exactly this in Writer but I had to try a couple of times. First 
go, I couldn't find the em dash when I right clicked in the 'With' box so I 
went back into normal writing mode and searched for the em dash in special 
characters and inserted it into a document.

Next I went back to Tools > AutoCorrect > AutoCorrect Options, typed --- into 
the 'Replace' box, right clicked in the 'With' box and selected Special Character. 
This opened the special character dialogue and I could see my recently used em dash 
in the recent characters and the favourites listing in the lower left. I selected the 
em dash and then clicked on OK. That closed the special char dialogue. Back in the 
autocorrect options box, I clicked the  'New' button and then the OK button.

Then I went back to test it in a Writer document and it worked fine.

Philip


On 03/03/2024 00:53, Karen Webb wrote:

I recently ran into an issue with a new computer running under Windows 11 didn't 
recognize my valid Microsoft Office license from my previous computer so am trying to use 
your product. I'm running into trouble with getting Autocorrect to replace 
"---" with an em-dash and straight quotes with curly quotes. I've checked 
forums and done things as directed everyplace I found solutions including removing and 
re-installing (today, now have 7.5.4 rather than 7.5.4.1) and it's just not working. Is 
it an issue with Windows 11? Please don't make me go back to Microsoft and subscribe to 
their stupid online Office app!

Thank you

Karen Webb

UT/USA




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[libreoffice-users] border lines above footers in Writer

2023-12-26 Thread Philip Jackson


A cautionary note which I hope someone else will find useful.

Using LO 7.3.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 2204 LTS I came upon a conflict between two 
methods of inserting lines to separate page text from footers.

My exercise was what appeared a simple task, to edit an older document to 
increase the line width from the default 0.05pt to 0.75pt in order to improve 
visibility when printing. It didn't take long to find that I had long been 
ignorant of the existence of two methods of defining a border line:
1. editing the page style, Footer tab, select 'More...'
2. editing a footer paragraph style

My awakening happened when I saw that on some pages I had two lines above the 
footer with a very small spacing between them - each of the methods has its own 
positioning of the border line above the footer. (Playing with the 'padding' 
doesn't affect the positioning of the line.)

Editing took a little longer than I had expected but at the end, I was still 
left with a 'page style footer' border line on one page style that I could not 
modify. It remained as a 'ghost' and only vanished when I turned off the footer 
on that page style and then turned it back on and remade that footer from 
scratch.

All goes to show that even after years of use, there are still things to 
discover.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] common to all pages header

2023-12-22 Thread Philip Jackson


On 22/12/2023 03:31, Chris J. wrote:

Hi.



Does your first page have a 'First Page' page style rather than the 'Default 
Page Style'?
- Robert



Both files say they're using the "Default Paragraph Style". There's only one 
and I've never knowingly messed with it.


It's not the paragraph style but the page style you need to look at. Typically 
a document has several page styles of which 'First page' could be one - and 
that wouldn't propagate through to the other page styles. The bulk of the 
document probably uses something like 'Default page style' and that's the one 
where you need to insert your header material.

Philip
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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use "Open PGP key"

2023-12-16 Thread Philip Jackson


On 16/12/2023 21:54, tothelightho...@nifty.com wrote:

I want to use "Open PGP key "

But Libfre office said "No use Open PGP key" only.

  How can I use that?

You can use LO Writer to encrypt a document using PGP but LO will do so by 
calling a programme external to LO which will depend on the OS you are using.

For Windows, you will need *gpg4win
*For Linux, you will need *gnupg* which is usually present in most 
distributions of linux*
*or MacOS, you will need *GPGTools*

This supposes that you already have created your own public/private key pair 
which you do with one of those tools mentioned above.

Check this link for further details:

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-US/text/shared/guide/openpgp.html

hth

Philip
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Wrapping text in cell is enabled but does not show in sheet, only in selected cell.

2023-11-28 Thread Philip Jackson


On 28/11/2023 21:26, Budge wrote:

My problem is that I have enabled wrapping in the cells of a row and expected 
the longer text to start a new line and increase the height of the cell but 
this does not remain when I move to another line.

What is causing this and how can I correct it so two lines of text are shown in 
the selected cells?


The cells will expand in height to accept your text as you type. If you 
consider the cell height to be excessive, you can adjust its width.

But if you want to write two comments each on its own line of text within the 
same cell, after typing the first comment, place your cursor in the formula bar 
above the cells and create a new line by using shift+return. The first comment 
will vanish from the formula bar but remain in the cell and your further typing 
of the second comment will start on a new line in the cell.  Each comment might 
wrap on multiple lines depending on the width of the column.

Philip
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread Philip Jackson


I've made my own templates for various categories of documents and equipped 
each template with its own sets of customised styles. They work fine. I did the 
set up some years ago and don't recall exactly what steps were required but I 
don't recall any particular difficulty.

I do remember that when I first used one of my templates, my customised styles 
didn't show up but that was a simple oversight on my part. In the sidebar panel 
(Ctrl-F5) which displays the styles, I had never noticed the selector at the 
bottom which by default shows 'Applied styles'.

With a new blank document, there'll only be a default paragraph style 
displayed. When I clicked on the drop-down list and selected 'All styles', 
there were all my custom styles.

I don't suppose you've made the same oversight?

Philip

On 24/11/2023 20:22, bunk3m wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.

I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the past 5
years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd Ed.
and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the styles
to stick within the templates.

I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document as a
template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles that I
created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent documents
created from the templates.

But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's been
a colossal waste of time.

I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our organization to
ensure consistency.

Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the styles
are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I can
figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug reports.

Thank you in advance.
B.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: trying to make a date box in a form, tried loads of times and I can't get it to work

2023-10-30 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Jeanette,

Re offline help files : yes you can download those from the downloads page of 
the LO website. You'll have to select your operating system and language and 
then you'll see towards the lower end of the green download panel, another 
download link like this

 * Help for offline use: English (US) (Torrent, Info)

That is an example for US English - that's why I said first check your os and 
then language. Start from this link:

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/

Best,

Philip-


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jayeTo:users+h...@global.libreoffice.org  
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:18:18 
GMTSubject: trying to make a date box in a form, tried loads of times and I can't get it to 
work
  I've tried it so many ways see screenshots.  First time of asking for help, 
should I upload my form?
Hope the screenshots help. I've spent so many hours just on the date, have  
read the manual front to back nothing jumps out at me.
Also, my LibreOffice is not connected to the internet, is there any way I can 
download the Help and install it into LibreOffice without being online.
Jeanette




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer falls over systematically

2023-10-30 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Harald,

I added a confirmatory comment (#18) to the bug link you provided. I don't 
think I can change its status - that's down to the admins I suppose?

Philip

On 29/10/2023 17:09, lo.harald.ber...@t-online.de wrote:

Hi Philip,

yes I also have this error and have reported it:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154091


Maybe you like to put it on CONFIRMED.

Kind Regards
Harald

Am 29.10.2023 um 15:24 schrieb Philip Jackson:

LO Writer 7.5.5.2 on Windows 10

I was checking to see what the options were in Format > page style > Area tab.

Initially, this tab shows 'None'. When I click on any other button, (Color, 
Gradient, Image ...) I see the set of options available. When I then click on 
any other button Writer falls over and the application closes down.

I can restart and recover the file ok. Then I retry using a different button to 
start with - I get the options displayed correctly. I click any other button 
(including 'None') and Writer falls-over again.

I've repeated this many times and Writer falls over every time a second button 
is clicked on the Area tab.

This only happens on my Windows10 box. On my linux box using LO 7.3.7.2 the 
behavior is normal and I can pass between any of the Area tab's possibilities 
with no fall-over.

Has anybody else seen this type of failure with 7.5.5.2 (or any other version) 
on W10?

Philip






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[libreoffice-users] LO Writer falls over systematically

2023-10-29 Thread Philip Jackson


LO Writer 7.5.5.2 on Windows 10

I was checking to see what the options were in Format > page style > Area tab.

Initially, this tab shows 'None'. When I click on any other button, (Color, 
Gradient, Image ...) I see the set of options available. When I then click on 
any other button Writer falls over and the application closes down.

I can restart and recover the file ok. Then I retry using a different button to 
start with - I get the options displayed correctly. I click any other button 
(including 'None') and Writer falls-over again.

I've repeated this many times and Writer falls over every time a second button 
is clicked on the Area tab.

This only happens on my Windows10 box. On my linux box using LO 7.3.7.2 the 
behavior is normal and I can pass between any of the Area tab's possibilities 
with no fall-over.

Has anybody else seen this type of failure with 7.5.5.2 (or any other version) 
on W10?

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document

2023-10-25 Thread Philip Jackson


On 25/10/2023 18:55, Kenneth Groninga wrote:

How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit
it?

Kenneth Groninga


You need a software application that can do optical character recognition to 
transform the scanned te4xt into editable text. Do a search for OCR software 
for whatever platform you're using.
hth Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Draw and Writer

2023-10-25 Thread Philip Jackson

On 24/10/2023 20:36, Kenneth Groninga wrote:

-- Forwarded message -
From: Kenneth Groninga
Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 1:25 PM
Subject: Draw and Writer
To:

I am still having a problem.  I scan a document as jpeg or pdf and save it
in documents. When I try to open the document in Writer to edit it , it
open in Draw and I can not edit it.  How do I solve this problem? If I copy
and paste the document the resulting document is much darker. I have never
had theis problem before with my computer.

Kenneth Groninga

LO Writer cannot open image files for editing nor pdf files. That's why the LO 
suite opens them in the Draw application.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles

2023-10-22 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Chris,

On 22/10/2023 17:18, Chris J. wrote:

A few details might change, but stories submissions to publishers and editors 
have pretty much the same characteristics, in the States anyway; 1.00 inch 
margin top and bottom, 1.25 inch margins right and left, Times Roman or Times 
New Roman font, 12pt, double spaced. Page numbers are helpful and I put mine 
right justified in the header and centered in the footer. Most want the title 
in the header right side. Some want the chapter title in the header, left side. 
Some want a table of contents which I read can be done in Write in the header I 
believe.

The first page of a chapter is a little different. There's some white space at 
he top (I put 6 double spaced lines), then an a chapter number or title, more 
white space (same), then a page by age repeat of the above first paragraph.

One would think this should be possible with a couple of styles.

I can change an existing paragraph style with no problem. But setting up a new 
one with the above attributes and getting it defined for entire page/story is 
eluding me for some reason. It's driving me nuts to the point that keep a 
couple blank formatted pages around as above and just copy them to new stories.

Is there a list of common mistakes I can look at to try figuring out I'm dong 
wrong?

All the above requirements, as you suppose, are capable of being placed into 
page or paragraph styles. For the example of the first page of a chapter, you 
can define a new page style based off the default page style. I find the 
easiest way of working is to have the Styles sidebar visible on the right hand 
side of the screen, select the page styles by clicking on the little icon at 
the top (there are six of these and on my Writer, the page styles icon is 4th 
from the left). Then on the Default page style, right click and select New 
Style and in the dialogue that opens, proceed from tab to tab to set up the 
characteristics you require.

First you'll need to specify that it's 'right side only', then you can set the 
top margin to a larger value to avoid the ad hoc formatting you do with 6 
double spaced lines. You can also select to have no header on this page (which 
may not be what your agents require but is typical for print formats.)

To get more space under the chapter title, you will achieve this by modifying 
(or creating a new style) the Heading style you use for these chapter titles. 
That is done within the paragraph styles in the sidebar.

All text paragraphs can be set up with single or double spacing. Header and 
footer styles can be set up with the various fields you require (chapter title, 
book title, page number...). You can create new header, footer, heading and 
text body styles from the default versions and give them new names which help 
you to remember which is which.

For a lengthy manuscript, it is likely that you will require several page 
styles (I have preface, left hand empty, right hand new chapter, regular 
left/right mirrored pages for the body of the book, back-matter left/right 
pages). Same goes for paragraph styles: first paragraph of chapter (no indent), 
regular text body, several list styles, centered text example style ... and so 
on.  They take a little time to set up but can be transferred to other 
documents as you need them.

Using styles will avoid a lot of complications in the coding if you 
subsequently require to turn the manuscript into an epub. Ad hoc formatting is 
liable to leave an unwanted heap of formatting tokens in the eBook. Once you 
get the hang of it, it saves a load of aggro and I find the styles easier to 
set up in Writer than in Word.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] assembling an OTM into an EPUB.

2023-10-18 Thread Philip Jackson


On 17/10/2023 14:16, Virgil wrote:


On 10/17/2023 3:59 AM, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 17/10/2023 03:28, Virgil Arrington wrote:

And, if you’re serious about publishing to the Amazon Kindle store then you 
might want to check out Kindle Previewer as well.

After finalising the setup in Sigil, I run the epub through Amazon's Previewer 
to check how it displays and if all's good, Previewer will export a .kpf file 
which is one of KDP's preferred formats for uploading (they'll also accept 
epub).


That's interesting that Amazon accepts EPUB files. I've always been under the 
impression that Kindles only use one of Amazon's proprietary file formats. In 
fact, I have never found a way to load and read an EPUB file on a Kindle 
device, whether it's my dedicated Kindle, a Kindle Fire, or the Kindle app on 
my phone. Is there some secret to getting Kindles to read and display EPUB 
files?

Perhaps there is a difference between what Amazon will accept for their store 
and what will actually display on a Kindle device.


Amazon now prefers ebook uploads to KDP by epub or kpf. In the past (until, 
what, a couple of years or three ago) authors had to convert epub to mobi which 
was easy to do with a bit of free software supplied by KDP, Kindlegen. Now you 
can straight upload your epub file to KDP but I prefer to upload the kpf. If 
you purchase from Amazon, they don't download you an epub but one of their 
propritary formats depending on the device you're using.

Putting an epub on a kindle reading device is another matter. I'm reading an 
epub on a Kindle Fire at the moment and used the BookFunnel app to download it 
to the Fire and to read. But the text font is not adjustable, the chapters 
don't start on a new page. The DropCap at the beginning of each chapter doesn't 
scale correctly. You might just as well be reading a pdf file. The only reason 
I'm reading like this is that the Fire is my only portable bit of kit that 
remains at present and I can't manage my desk top mc in bed.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] assembling an OTM into an EPUB.

2023-10-17 Thread Philip Jackson


On 17/10/2023 03:28, Virgil Arrington wrote:

And, if you’re serious about publishing to the Amazon Kindle store then you 
might want to check out Kindle Previewer as well.

After finalising the setup in Sigil, I run the epub through Amazon's Previewer 
to check how it displays and if all's good, Previewer will export a .kpf file 
which is one of KDP's preferred formats for uploading (they'll also accept 
epub). I'm not sure about what's exactly inside the kpf file but it's 
'enormous' compared to the original epub file although a subsequent download 
from Amazon is only about the same size as the epub. So possibly the kpf 
contains several variants that Amazon uses for different readers.

I also check the epub display in Adobe Digital Editions. One thing is for sure, 
not all ereading devices are equal and sometimes they can give an awful 
display. 'Drop Caps' are one of the worst for variability when you compare the 
appearance on different reading devices.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] assembling an OTM into an EPUB.

2023-10-16 Thread Philip Jackson


On 16/10/2023 19:41, Chris J. wrote:

Hi, all.


Subject says it. OTM -> EPUB so I can get it on a Kindle. Kindles can handle 
PDF. However I'm told PDF is more graphics in nature and doesn't necessarily work 
well with every Kindle as far as easy readability.


LO Writer Export claims to be able to do this. I get an error when I try. 
Examination of this error indicates I need  5 or 6 other pieces to pull this 
trick off and I can't find them all.


Enter Calibre which can translate a bunch of formats into another bunch of 
formats.


Calibre dumps all my formatting it seems, no paragraph indents, no margins, no 
centering.


I can assemble an OTM into an ODT and go from there to a DOCX for submission. 
But I need to get it into an EPUB as well.


Any construction thoughts will be gratefully appreciated.


Hi Chris,

My favorite software for converting to epub format is SIGIL. I've found that, 
for me at any rate, Sigil does a cleaner job than Calibre and Sigil has a 
plugin extension (ODTimport) which will allow import and conversion of .odt 
files.
This plugin will maintain the names of your LO styles once you've set up an 
initial config file.

Same goes for direct import of docx files (DOCXImport plugin).

Sigil is easy to use but like all sophisticated software it has a learning 
curve.

Things to be wary of are the vast amount of hidden 'styling' bits and pieces 
which exist in word processor files. These can cause large numbers of unwanted 
html tags to be placed in the epub. They won't necessarily cause malfunction of 
the epub but make for untidy and excessive coding.

Sigil exists for Windows, Mac and Linux -  see https://sigil-ebook.com/sigil/

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] shrink size and font size of styles sidebar

2023-09-30 Thread Philip Jackson

Curious. I was happy to have discovered this setting as a result of this
thread. So I set it to 'false' way back in March. I frequently change the
style's side bar width by dragging it and the MinimumWidth setting has stayed
at 'false'.

Philip

On 29/09/2023 18:53, Eric Beversluis wrote:

I'm re-sending this question, which didn't get answered. It's happened again that the
minimumwidth setting somehow changed back to "true."

It just seems to have happened today. I haven't re-installed LO or anything
like that.

What causes the value to change? How can I keep it from happening?

On 4/27/23 09:46, Eric Beversluis wrote:

OK. That works. But I keep having to reset it. What do I have to do to keep the setting
at "false"?

On 3/4/23 09:43, Philip Jackson wrote:

Thanks to the OP and to V Stuart Foote - that was something I will find useful
too.

It worked beautifully but I had to close the document and reopen for it to take
effect.
Philip
On 04/03/2023 02:30, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Sorry for the top post...

Use Tools -> Options -> Advanced "Open Expert Configuration"

Search for "minimumwidth"

Click the "Edit" button to directly toggle 'MinimumWidth' boolean value from "true" to
"false"

OK out to apply.

The Sidebar Deck can now be dragged as narrow as needed before it will collapse
to show just the deck TAB Bar

=-=-=

Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:26:09 -0500

How do I shrink the styles sidebar? Zoom works lovely on the main window--I used
"optimal" most of the time, but that doesn't help if I can't shrink the styles
sidebar.

I can drag to make it bigger but not to make it smaller than a certain size.
And I can't find anywhere to change the font size. So, for example, if I need
to shrink the entire Writer window down to share screen space I end up with the
styles sidebar taking up half the window with large type even when the main doc
window type is so small it's hardly readable.

There must be some way to do this. I just can't find it.

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] changing the font size in the cross reference number

2023-09-27 Thread Philip Jackson


Yes - attachments get stripped off. You can put a file up on another web site 
and post the link to it in your message on this forum.
Philip
On 27/09/2023 22:01, Mikhail Kuzminsky wrote:

I apologize - I did not look at the message that came to me (sent by
me to users@global.libreoffice.org), the e-mail attachment file was
deleted there.
What, sending a file as an attachment to text of mail is prohibited on
this maillist?

Mikhail

In message from "Mikhail Kuzminsky"  (Wed, 27 Sep 2023
20:19:54 +0300):

In LibreOffice writer:

To create a list of references,  it was used not the bibliography
mechanism, but cross-references to numbered paragraphs in the list of
references.
I have found that, for unknown reasons, a number of the cross
reference numbers in this list are set to font size 10 instead of the
required 12. My various attempts to change this size do not work.
How can I increase the font size in reference numbers in the
bibliography?

Attached to the mail is a printscreen of a piece of the bibliography
with different font sizes. Numbers [345]-[349] have a font size of 10,
unlike other numbers. Cross-reference numbers inserted in the text
itself, as well as the entire text, are in font size 12.

Attempts that didn't work:

1) Left-click on any of the numbers, highlighting the entire field of
numbers - and change the size from 10 to 12
2) When deleting the text of a paragraph in the reference list, the
cross reference number returns to font size 12, but inserting/typing
any character in the area of that paragraph returns the reference
number size to 10.

The old version of LibreOffice 5.3.6.1 is used (rpm packages in CentOS
7). So a large number of hotkeys, unfortunately, do not work.
But I guess my question has nothing to do with CentOS at all.

PS. I don't work professionally with LibreOffice.

Mikhail

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Assembling a Master Document.

2023-09-27 Thread Philip Jackson


On 27/09/2023 00:40, Chris J. wrote:

When you create a new master doc, you have a blank page. What the instruction 
indicates is that the navigator should be showing just a single TEXT entry.  I 
just checked, and that is what it says.


Now write something in that blank doc that is text. Then you should modify that 
text style to correspond with what you're using in your sub-docs so that when 
they're imported, they automatically use the correct style.

Step 3: I just tried and it works as advertised.  Click and hold the insert 
icon and you see it gets focus. Or you can just click the little arrow to get 
the drop down menu. A small box displays with options: Index, file, new doc, 
text.  Select 'file'. An 'Insert' dialog box opens and you can navigate to the 
sub-doc you want and then click 'Insert'.  The sub-doc is inserted into the 
master doc and an entry appears in the navigator.

Philip



Still something wrong. Everything in the drop down is still greyed out. I'm 
running lo 7..5.6.2 on Ubuntu 23.04 if that makes any difference. What are you 
running?


I'm running 7.3.7.2  in UbuntuStudio 22.04 LTS  and I've also got 7.5.5.2 on a 
Wi8ndows10 box. Both of them behave same way. There is just one peculiarity I 
spotted on both boxes, in order to get the insert icon at the top of the 
Navigator pane to offer you some options, you need first to click on the 'Text' 
entry in the Navigator pane to highlight it and then on the insert icon. Does 
that help?

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Assembling a Master Document.

2023-09-26 Thread Philip Jackson


On 26/09/2023 20:49, Chris J. wrote:

Hi.


Thank you for your replies. Much appreciated. The fog my be beginning to lift.


Have another one.


I'm trying to create a Master Document. I did this once before. I'm beginning 
to think it only worked because I was having really a good day. I'm following 
the directions at


https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/ar/text/swriter/guide/globaldoc_howtos.html


This may be contributing to the problem.


Step 2: Where is this Text supposed to go, in the Navigator box or the document?


Step 3 adding a file: I'm assuming this refers to the Navigator Insert left 
pointing arrow. I click and hold, nothing happens. If I click on the arrow's 
associated drop down next to it a four line menu drops but all entries are 
dimmed out. Trying the line that says file of course does nothing.


What am I doing wrong?


When you create a new master doc, you have a blank page. What the instruction 
indicates is that the navigator should be showing just a single TEXT entry.  I 
just checked, and that is what it says.

Now write something in that blank doc that is text. Then you should modify that 
text style to correspond with what you're using in your sub-docs so that when 
they're imported, they automatically use the correct style.

Step 3: I just tried and it works as advertised.  Click and hold the insert 
icon and you see it gets focus. Or you can just click the little arrow to get 
the drop down menu. A small box displays with options: Index, file, new doc, 
text.  Select 'file'. An 'Insert' dialog box opens and you can navigate to the 
sub-doc you want and then click 'Insert'.  The sub-doc is inserted into the 
master doc and an entry appears in the navigator.

Philip




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Re: [libreoffice-users] after the fact page numbers

2023-09-26 Thread Philip Jackson

Hi Chris:

On 25/09/2023 20:02, Chris J. wrote:

Hi.

Whole book, each chapter is a file. No page numbers. My bad.

Without going through each and every page, is there a way to propagate headers
and footers on every page with the requisite page numbers and whatever else
throughout a chapter. I realize I will likely need to do this one chapter at a
time.

I suspect this has something to do with a style sheet. I'm unclear how to
propagate throughout the document after the fact of the document's creation,
i.e. I've already written the book.

Also, If I manage this miracle. will the chapter numbers be properly re
sequenced if I concatenate all the chapters. That would really be nice. I'll be
doing that manually in LO Writer using cut-n-paste unless there's a better more
automated way.

Styles are really the answer to well constructed documents and they do seem
like an overly large burden when you first start looking at them. But there is
some very good documentation on the Open Documents website:
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/

I imagine all your separate documents have the same basic default page style.
If you edit your page style in the first document and activate the footer and
then insert the page number field into one of the footers, every page will then
have a number.

If you then open your next chapter and select all the text (Ctrl-A) and then
copy it (Ctrl-C), you can paste this text into the bottom of the last page of
your first chapter and all the pages of the second chapter will then have
numbers which carry on the sequence of the first chapter.

You will probably want each chapter to start on a right hand page and that may
require inserting a blank page at the end of a preceding chapter.

When you come to formatting the entire book, you will probably come round to
the idea that you need several page styles. These may be for a preface with
page numbers in roman numerals; for the first page of a chapter where you may
not want a header and the chapter title may need to be part way down the page.
Then any blank left hand page would be another style (possibly without header
or footer - depending on your style preferences). And finally another style for
any back-matter.

Each new page style is easily developed from the default page style. The difficulty
comes in changing the style of a page. The traditional double-click used to change a
paragraph style doesn't work, in my experience, for page styles. What you do is go to
the bottom of the preceding page, click Insert > More breaks > manual break >
select page break and in the drop down list, select the page style required and click OK.

This will give you an empty page of the style required. Place the cursor at the
top of this page and hit delete. It will then be filled with the material of
the next page in the document correctly formatted for the page style you
inserted.

If sometime, you need to stitch two docs together and you require an unusual
page number at the front end of the second doc, you can pre-set its number
using this sequence suggested to me a couple of years or so ago by Regina
Henschel.

In this case, I wanted the Writer doc to start its numbering at page 2 so I
could export it as a pdf and then stitch to it another pre-existing pdf page
with no.1. I thought to use an off-set but it wouldn't work so Regina kindly
showed me:

That is the wrong tool for your purpose. Go to the very first paragraph of the page. Open the properties of that
paragraph. Go to tab "Text flow". Enable Breaks "Insert". Enable "With page style".
Enable "Page number". Enter 2.

The tool "Offset" has a totally different use case. It is used in letter for
the information in the footer, that this page of the letter has a following page. And for
this use case it is the correct behavior, that it is empty for the last page of the
letter.

hth

Philip

Re: [libreoffice-users] Unresolved question re linking to another section in the same document

2023-09-09 Thread Philip Jackson


I don't use the tabbed bar user interface but I've just given it a try to see 
where your problem could be.

What I found is that the insert - hyperlink works exactly the same. You highlight 
the entry you wish to turn into a link. You click either the hyperlink icon or 
Insert > hyperlink and that opens the hyperlink dialog box. Inside this box, 
you click on the third icon on the left hand side, 'Document', and in the main 
pane of the hyperlink box, you'll see the 'Target in Document' section. At the far 
right end, level with the 'target' entry box, click on the icon.

This opens a 'Target in Document' dialogue box where you'll see a list of 
entries. Near the bottom is 'Bookmarks' which when clicked on will show a drop 
down list of all the bookmarks you have created (using the names you gave to 
each bookmark). Select the one you need, click Apply and then Close. The focus 
returns to the Hyperlink box where you'll see the name of your bookmark in the 
target box. Click apply and close and it's 'job done.'

No need to go trying to change tabs.

Now my problem is to get back to my standard gui appearance and I can't find the 
View>User interface in the tabbed view !!  Oh well !!

Philip

On 08/09/2023 23:19, Karen Sullivan wrote:

Using
https://www.libreofficehelp.com/libreoffice-writer-link-section-bookmark/,
created a bookmark.
Tried to create a hyperlink

Got through the first part (I think)


- Select the link or put the cursor on page 2 (where you want to reach
when clicking from page 1).
- While keeping the cursor in that section from the menu, open Insert >
Bookmark. Alternatively, if you use the Tabbed Bar style, click Bookmark
from Insert Tab.
- In the Bookmark dialog, give the name of your bookmark. For example,
section A – page 2. And click Insert.
- Open the Bookmark window again to verify whether it is created
properly.

For the hyperlink part, I selected insert-->hyperlink and that worked. But,
when I tried to select insert-->tab, I could not see the tab option in
insert (the last option is Header / Footer). Tried the shortcut (CTRL-TAB)
with no joy. Moved the taskbar to the side to see all menu options (this
has worked before), no joy.

Went to Ask.libreoffice.com entered "How do I see all options in a
drop-down menu" under new topics (using English, Writer)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] problems on Ubuntu

2023-09-03 Thread Philip Jackson


Yes, it looks like you got a box with old software. You can download up to date 
versions from https://ubuntu.com/  where the many different flavors of Ubuntu 
are also listed.

You'll almost never get the latest, latest LO versions from Ubuntu. The LO 
website lists current download as 7.6.0 for cutting edge stuff and 7.5.5 for 
more stable business deployments.

I have LO 7.5 on my Windows10 box but for my day to day use of Writer and Calc 
I don't notice any functional advantages in 7.5 over the 7.3.7.2 which is 
supported by Ubuntu in their LTS 22.04 os and which is my main every day work 
station.

But as a general principle, it's never good to fall too far behind with old 
versions.
Philip


On 03/09/2023 19:00, Rogier F. van Vlissingen wrote:

That is very interesting about the Ubuntu version.

This is a brandnew work station I bought from HP in july. It is a bit
disappointing if they shipped it with the previous LTS.

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 12:06 PM Philip Jackson
wrote:


Hi : You said in the original post that you switched to ubuntu this year.
 From the info you just posted, the Build ID would indicate that you have a
build intended for Ubuntu 20.04 which is three years out of date. The 20.04
LTS was replaced by LTS 22.04 in April of 2022.  Next LTS should be in
24.04.

I'm using UbuntuStudio LTS 22.04 and my LO version is 7.3.7.2 and the
package manager is quoting 1:7.3.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.3

Philip

On 03/09/2023 15:55, Rogier F. van Vlissingen wrote:

For the record this about my LO version

quote
Version: 6.4.7.2
Build ID: 1:6.4.7-0ubuntu0.20.04.8
CPU threads: 12; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3;
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded
unquote

So, is Ubuntu behind on the updates?

P.S. I once had a similar problem on Linux Mint, but that went away, the
current issue happened after my switch to Ubuntu.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] problems on Ubuntu

2023-09-03 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi : You said in the original post that you switched to ubuntu this year. From 
the info you just posted, the Build ID would indicate that you have a build 
intended for Ubuntu 20.04 which is three years out of date. The 20.04 LTS was 
replaced by LTS 22.04 in April of 2022.  Next LTS should be in 24.04.

I'm using UbuntuStudio LTS 22.04 and my LO version is 7.3.7.2 and the package 
manager is quoting 1:7.3.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.3

Philip

On 03/09/2023 15:55, Rogier F. van Vlissingen wrote:

For the record this about my LO version

quote
Version: 6.4.7.2
Build ID: 1:6.4.7-0ubuntu0.20.04.8
CPU threads: 12; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3;
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded
unquote

So, is Ubuntu behind on the updates?

P.S. I once had a similar problem on Linux Mint, but that went away, the
current issue happened after my switch to Ubuntu.



On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 2:51 AM Brad Rogers  wrote:


On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:16:48 +0200
Robert Großkopf  wrote:

Hello Robert,


Have seen this also on some newer versions of LO here: Minimized, looks
like an icon … But I'm switching very often between different versions
of LO so I haven't reset the user profile for this. Might be it will
help.

Maybe not;  I had this with a previous version of LO.  After updates,
the problem has gone.  I conclude there were issues with certain versions
of LO.

Unfortunately, I don't recall the version(s) of LO that suffered the
issue.  I can say that version 7.5.5.2 (currently in use here) doesn't
suffer the problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Signature Line in Calc - Where is text size determined?

2023-09-01 Thread Philip Jackson


Further to my last reply, you can encrypt a Writer file using pgp within LO 
Writer. You can see the option in File > Save As  but you will need an Openpgp 
client on your system and you will need to have created a private/public key pair. 
Most all linux distributions already have a pgp client installed [gnupg ?] but 
Windows users will need to install gpg4win.

Philip

On 01/09/2023 10:19, budge wrote:

Hi Philip and thanks for the reply.

I am learning how to use these tools and trying to understand how the various 
options for signing and also securing documents.  I am using Linux (openSUSE) 
for all this but no doubt windows users as addressees will be viewing and 
reading.

I have two different objectives:-

1.    To insert a signature or rather an image of a signature in the right place in a 
document and in adding this signature image, render the document "signed" so 
that it cannot be altered without warnings or better.

2.    To secure a document so that is cannot be read or amended by an 
unauthorised and, even if read by an unauthorised person, cannot be altered.

I can use PGP type encryption on emails etc already either to sign a message or 
to encrypt a message using my email client but am trying to work out how to do 
this with a LO document or spreadsheet which may need to be converted into a 
pdf.

Is there a simple step by step guide for this?

If I wish to store my private key for an LO signature will it go to the same 
"safe" as my PGP keys or my KeePassXC password manager?

I need to have the signature image which can be used like a "stamp" and added 
to any document and there may be issues of scaling the size of the image to suit the 
environment in which it is used.

If anybody can shine more light it would be very much appreciated.

Budge.

On 31/08/2023 12:48, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 31/08/2023 12:09, Budge wrote:

I am trying to insert a signature line at the end of a spreadsheet and the text which 
appears in the for name and title are much smaller than the font setting for the sheet.  
Where is this text font defined and how can I change it.  Also the date is not shown 
although the date option has been ticked for "show date in signature line."
Please can somebody advise?
Budge



As I understand it, the date is only added when you sign the signature line 
with a digital certificate. The creation of a signature line is a separate 
activity from the signing of that digital line.

When you insert the signature line, it shows your name and status in an image 
box. If you hover over this image box and then right click, the context box 
shows at the bottom the option to sign the signature line.  In order to do 
that, you must have previously created a digital certificate in the form of an 
X509 certificate which you save in LO.

hth
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Signature Line in Calc - Where is text size determined?

2023-09-01 Thread Philip Jackson

Hi Budge:

For your item 1, placing an image of a signature in a document does nothing to
render it secure unless you also use a digital signing process.

It is many rears since I used PGP so I don't recall well enough to give you a
primer on the subject. What I would say is that you can sign any document with
PGP but you wouldn't do it inside LO Writer. You would sign the file through
your file explorer invoking the appropriate PGP incantation. This would not
provide any physically visible signature line inside the .odt file but would
provide you a separate 'signature file' which you could sent out with the
signed file and the recipient could then use PGP to check that the file had not
been altered in transit.

The recipient would have to be PGP aware and as you probably know, PGP is
available for all platforms.

The X509 type certification which you would invoke inside Writer requires that
you first get some certification authority to provide you with an X509
certificate. These are the same sorts of certs that https websites use and SSL
data transfers too. You would probably have to buy such a certificate. There
are some free CA's (certification authorities) about. CAcert is one such, open
source authority. See https://www.cacert.org/ You can Google them.

For further help on using signatures with LO, see their help files. One good
place to start is:

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-US/text/shared/guide/digitalsign_send.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id7430951

It takes time to get into this subject well enough to provide full document
security. Bon courage!!
Philip

On 01/09/2023 10:19, budge wrote:

Hi Philip and thanks for the reply.

I am learning how to use these tools and trying to understand how the various
options for signing and also securing documents. I am using Linux (openSUSE)
for all this but no doubt windows users as addressees will be viewing and
reading.

I have two different objectives:-

1. To insert a signature or rather an image of a signature in the right place in a
document and in adding this signature image, render the document "signed" so
that it cannot be altered without warnings or better.

2. To secure a document so that is cannot be read or amended by an
unauthorised and, even if read by an unauthorised person, cannot be altered.

I can use PGP type encryption on emails etc already either to sign a message or
to encrypt a message using my email client but am trying to work out how to do
this with a LO document or spreadsheet which may need to be converted into a
pdf.

Is there a simple step by step guide for this?

If I wish to store my private key for an LO signature will it go to the same
"safe" as my PGP keys or my KeePassXC password manager?

I need to have the signature image which can be used like a "stamp" and added
to any document and there may be issues of scaling the size of the image to suit the
environment in which it is used.

If anybody can shine more light it would be very much appreciated.

Budge.

On 31/08/2023 12:48, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 31/08/2023 12:09, Budge wrote:

I am trying to insert a signature line at the end of a spreadsheet and the text which
appears in the for name and title are much smaller than the font setting for the sheet.
Where is this text font defined and how can I change it. Also the date is not shown
although the date option has been ticked for "show date in signature line."
Please can somebody advise?
Budge

As I understand it, the date is only added when you sign the signature line
with a digital certificate. The creation of a signature line is a separate
activity from the signing of that digital line.

When you insert the signature line, it shows your name and status in an image
box. If you hover over this image box and then right click, the context box
shows at the bottom the option to sign the signature line. In order to do
that, you must have previously created a digital certificate in the form of an
X509 certi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Signature Line in Calc - Where is text size determined?

2023-08-31 Thread Philip Jackson


On 31/08/2023 12:09, Budge wrote:

I am trying to insert a signature line at the end of a spreadsheet and the text which 
appears in the for name and title are much smaller than the font setting for the sheet.  
Where is this text font defined and how can I change it.  Also the date is not shown 
although the date option has been ticked for "show date in signature line."
Please can somebody advise?
Budge



As I understand it, the date is only added when you sign the signature line 
with a digital certificate. The creation of a signature line is a separate 
activity from the signing of that digital line.

When you insert the signature line, it shows your name and status in an image 
box. If you hover over this image box and then right click, the context box 
shows at the bottom the option to sign the signature line.  In order to do 
that, you must have previously created a digital certificate in the form of an 
X509 certificate which you save in LO.

hth
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

2023-07-30 Thread Philip Jackson

On 30/07/2023 22:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 31/07/2023 01:09, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 29/07/2023 20:07, Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 29/07/23 19:32, Mike Scott wrote:

On 25/07/2023 21:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 25/07/2023 22:17, Mike Scott wrote:

On 24/07/2023 17:39, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

Just out of curiosity, at any time did you receive a "Confirm File Format" window and
unchecked the "Ask when not saving in ODF or default format" dialog?

An error in this function might react oddly, even though unlikely.

The "Confirm File Format" window only (and always) pops up when a non-odf format is picked from the
drop-down box in the 'Save As' dialogue. "Ask when not saving in ODF..." is set in the LO options
and re-appears (set) in the "Confirm format" window.

The odd thing today is that on this machine at least, I can't provoke the erroneous
behaviour... I must have just clicked "Save As" 30 or more times, and all works
perfectly. Would fail regularly when I last posted. The machine has just been rebooted
though... surely that can't affect things!

Thanks to you and to all for comments.

Yesterday I observed the behaviour you described, just once, first time in a few years
since the bug saving with file names containing multiple '.'s (i.e.
API12.578.PT100SB.odt) was fixed. This time also I had a file name suggested in the
"Save As" Name field, no extension showing, file type .odt selected and LO
saved the file without any extension.
I couldn't repeat it. I have no idea what logic is involved.

Hmm the gremlins persist - my last email seems not to have made it to the list.

First, in answer to a query, the dialogue box style is set to system not LO's
own. But as, today, I can't provoke the behaviour at all, I can't say whether
the choice of style affects matters.

And the text of my last email, telling of a very odd thing, was as follows
(apologies if anyone's already seen this):

===

Thanks for the comment; similar I guess.

The craziest thing today though. Having tried and failed to make my desktop
fail again, I've just tried my rather slower laptop. The dialogue box briefly
flashed up something I couldn't make out, so I set a screen recorder running.
Serious weirdness is evident.

When I do the 'Save As', the dialogue box comes up. At one point as I step
through frame-by-frame, the main area (the panel with a list of file names on
disk) is empty, and the save as file name box at the top contains the
highlighted file name, no type.

At the next frame, the main area is populated, and the filename box now
contains the name plus highlighted type - which is the bad behaviour I have
noted.

I should add, it took a couple of tries to get it to happen.

I can't imagine what's going on internally to do this. And seemingly randomly
at that.

Maybe the gremlins are getting restless? :}

===

If it happens again, try the LO file dialogue. I had do do this a while back
for a period where the KDE dialogue was acting badly under LO.

The last two responses (Mike and Steve) mentioned dialogs - system and LO. That
was something I hadn't considered so I just checked what I'm using.

In my UbuntuStudio LTS 2204 with KDE Plasma desktop, I'm using every day LO's
own dialog boxes. Not thro a specific choice but because it never occurred to
me to do otherwise. And as I've said in a couple of posts to this thread, I've
never experienced the OP's issue although 'save as' is part of my daily routine.

So I just changed the setting - I deselected the use LO open/save dialogs and
then tried a 'save as'. The suggested filename was then complete with the odt
suffix. I re-selected the LO open/save dialogs and tried again - the suggested
filename was without the odt suffix. So it seems that using system dialogs
does play a part in this affair. And my distro now uses the KDE desktop
whereas for years it was XFCE.

I just switched from the KDE file manager (Dolphin) to the LO file load/save
dialogues, there is definitely an issue with LO when using Dolphin that is not
evident with other apps using Dolphin.
Philip, are you using LO from their site or an Ubuntu packaged version.
Mike, you say both machines are Mint, MATE or Xfce? Did you install from a PPA
or the LO website.

It's over a year since I upgraded to UbuntuStudio LTS 2204 and I don't recall whether I
just stuck with the distro version of LO or downloaded from the LO site - I've done both
over the years. When I check "which libreoffice" it returns
/usr/bin/libreoffice so I imagine I'm using the distro supplied version otherwise it
would be in /opt/ wouldn't it?

I don't have any trouble with opening Writer or Calc files from Dolphin. I
always set up the file manager to open files with a single click and it just
works fine.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

2023-07-30 Thread Philip Jackson

On 29/07/2023 20:07, Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 29/07/23 19:32, Mike Scott wrote:

On 25/07/2023 21:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 25/07/2023 22:17, Mike Scott wrote:

On 24/07/2023 17:39, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

Just out of curiosity, at any time did you receive a "Confirm File Format" window and
unchecked the "Ask when not saving in ODF or default format" dialog?

An error in this function might react oddly, even though unlikely.

Thanks to you and to all for comments.

Hmm the gremlins persist - my last email seems not to have made it to the list.

First, in answer to a query, the dialogue box style is set to system not LO's
own. But as, today, I can't provoke the behaviour at all, I can't say whether
the choice of style affects matters.

And the text of my last email, telling of a very odd thing, was as follows
(apologies if anyone's already seen this):

===

Thanks for the comment; similar I guess.

At the next frame, the main area is populated, and the filename box now
contains the name plus highlighted type - which is the bad behaviour I have
noted.

I should add, it took a couple of tries to get it to happen.

I can't imagine what's going on internally to do this. And seemingly randomly
at that.

Maybe the gremlins are getting restless? :}

===

If it happens again, try the LO file dialogue. I had do do this a while back
for a period where the KDE dialogue was acting badly under LO.

The last two responses (Mike and Steve) mentioned dialogs - system and LO. That
was something I hadn't considered so I just checked what I'm using.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Header and footer

2023-07-27 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Robert,

On 27/07/2023 12:58, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Keerthana,


While using libre office writer,I can't insert header and footer outside
the border.what can I do?


1.: Right mousclick on the background of the page in Writer → Page Style → 
Header → Header on (or Footer → Footer on).
2.: Formate → Page Style … and then the same
3.: Mouse otside the writable area on the top → left mouse click and there appears 
"Header" with '+' to add the header.



I would interpret the OP's problem differently. It sound to me that he would 
like a full page width header (or footer) which goes to the edges of the paper 
and does not get limited by the page style's margin settings.

I've tried to do that in the past.  It isn't possible to set the the header 
margins to a negative value within the page style > header settings.

But if you go to the corresponding header *paragraph style*, and click 
'modify', then in the 'indents and spacing' tab you can set 'Before text' to a 
negative value.

You can also click in the header and manually move the left and right markers 
in the ruler. This will change all the headers of that paragraph style in the 
document.  This is the easiest solution, at least for me.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

2023-07-22 Thread Philip Jackson


On 22/07/2023 11:02, Mike Scott wrote:

On 20/07/2023 00:14, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Does this still happen if you update to LO7.4?
If I open yyy.odt, and  click 'Save As' the field "Name" for file name is 
always blank.

On 19/07/2023 05:38, Philip Jackson wrote:

Hi :

I'm using 7.3.7.2 on UbuntuStudio and I'm always using 'save as' but I've never 
had the problem you describe. Sorry.

Philip

On 18/07/2023 16:13, Mike Scott wrote:

Hi all; a very weird issue has been found by my wife, which I can repeat on a 
separate machine. Both use LO 7.3.7.2 on Mint 21.

What happens is this. Take an odt file, open it in Writer then go to 'Save As'. 
The expected behaviour is that the filename in the dialogue box will be filled 
in and selected/highlighted and there'll be no file type appended. Eg, I open 
yyy.odt, and 'Save As' displays just 'yyy' (highlighted).

However, sometimes and for no apparent reason, the dialogue box instead 
displays filename and file type ('yyy.odt'), with the type (only) highlighted. 
This causes issues when trying to save as a different type (eg as .docx)


(TLDR: open question at end! The details of my testing results are too long; 
sorry.)


Thanks all for comments, including one off-list. Ap[ologies for not getting 
back sooner - family matters intervened.

To clarify, my made-up name yyy.odt was (previously) by way of indicating what 
happens, not that that was the literal file causing problems. Apologies for any 
mis-direction.

I'm still none the wiser as to what's happening. I've just checked again the 
environment for the files. I have a file in a directory /dhome/mike, and an 
identical copy (^C ^V in a file manager) in /dhome/mike/temp of a file called
Saturday  song sheet.odt
(yes - there are two spaces together there, but that's not the issue)

I close LO. Double-click on the one in the temp directory, head for File|Save 
As. The filename is filled in
Saturday  song sheet
and selected. No file type.

So, I close LO. Double-click on the one in the higher directory; again 
File|Save As. This time, the file name and type appear;
Saturday  song sheet.odt
the /type/ alone is selected.

I cannot for the life of me understand why the behaviour in the two cases 
should be different.

To add to my confusion, I've just tried the following sequence of operations, starting 
with the "failing" file in /dhome/mike:

make a copy and change name:
cp Saturday\ \ song\ sheet.odt yyy.odt
open yyy.odt and see that Save As prefills the file name box as "yyy.odt" with 
the odt selected.

Rename and do the same again:
mv yyy.odt yy.odt
Same issue - Save As shows the name and type.

Finally, do it again:
mv yy.odt y.odt
But now y.odt opens the same, but Save As simply shows a highlighted "y" in the 
file name box.

Oh, and if I rename y.odt back to yy.odt, the problem comes back. And, if I 
copy yy.odt (fails) to my temp directory, all is well with the copy.

The thing is, when trying to save as .doc having the file type pre-set in the 
box causes a problem - LO will try to save a .doc (or whatever) as the type 
shown, and it needs manually changing. That's hazardous for someone like my 
wife, and can potentially lose the original .odt file.

I've just tried a similar sequence with the same file in my "real" home 
directory (/home/mike) with identical results.


**?
Does LO perhaps treat "top-level" directories in some way specially? My current guess is 
that multi-character file names in a "top-level" directory are treated differently from 
others. That would be very odd though, so IMBW!


Thanks for reading. I find this sort of problem hard to describe concisely. Am 
I missing something obvious?


Hi Mike,
I've tried to replicate your series of moves listed in your latest email. I 
even started with a file of the same name, Saturday  song list.odt, and used mv 
and cp as close as I could following your sequence. In every case, when I came 
to 'save as' in LO Writer 7.3.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 2022LTS, only the file name 
without extension was shown in the 'file name' box. I tried saving into the ~/ 
directory and into other lower levels.

I have been unable to replicate your case where the file name and its extension 
are given in the 'save as' | 'file name box'.

I'm commonly working on Writer docs three and four levels down from the home 
directory and 'save as' is one of my most common ways of duplicating a file to 
provide a starter in a new directory. I've never seen the behavior you describe.

This doesn't help you, I'm afraid. Could it be something connected with your OS 
version? I can't exactly recall if my LO is the UbuntuStudio distribution 
version or whether I downloaded it from the LO website - I've done both over 
the years. When I look where it is installed ( usr/bin/libreoffice) I would 
expect I'm using the version supplied by UbuntuStudio.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

2023-07-18 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi :

I'm using 7.3.7.2 on UbuntuStudio and I'm always using 'save as' but I've never 
had the problem you describe. Sorry.

Philip

On 18/07/2023 16:13, Mike Scott wrote:

Hi all; a very weird issue has been found by my wife, which I can repeat on a 
separate machine. Both use LO 7.3.7.2 on Mint 21.

What happens is this. Take an odt file, open it in Writer then go to 'Save As'. 
The expected behaviour is that the filename in the dialogue box will be filled 
in and selected/highlighted and there'll be no file type appended. Eg, I open 
yyy.odt, and 'Save As' displays just 'yyy' (highlighted).

However, sometimes and for no apparent reason, the dialogue box instead 
displays filename and file type ('yyy.odt'), with the type (only) highlighted. 
This causes issues when trying to save as a different type (eg as .docx)

Even more odd is that simply copying  (^C, ^V in a file manager) a 
wrongly-behaving file to a different directory can change the behaviour.

I wondered if my wife had managed to include some weird character, but
the filename /looks/ kosher: 'ls -1 | od -cb' shows nothing untoward. And 
indeed, one or two of my own files show the same behaviour. (I rarely use 'Save 
As' anyway.)


I'm at a bit of a loss about where to check next. Has anyone else experienced 
this please and can say what's happening?

TIA.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] System closed abruptly and I lost my work

2023-07-10 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Haley,

Not a happy day. But since you were working a lengthy period of time, it is 
just possible you got some automatic backups saved.

Did you look in Tools > Options > General > Paths > Backups  to see where they 
might be on your computer?

Philip

On 10/07/2023 03:47, haley peterson wrote:

Good evening,
The title basically explains it, but I will explain it further.
I downloaded LibreOffice this morning, I quickly found that I love the program. 
I was able to work from about 10:30 AM or so until 3 PM -ish(?) Then, 
unprovoked, the system shut down abruptly. I had a mini-stroke, but when I 
launched the program again, it prompted me to restore ()However, in my 
excitement that my work had not been lost, I selected 'discard' or 'delete' ()
I've been trying to restore it in every way your website suggests. Nope. Hasn't 
worked.
Please tell me that you can help.  Haley



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc default font size

2023-05-22 Thread Philip Jackson

Hi Mike,

On 22/05/2023 14:10, Mike Flannigan wrote:

Go to Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Fonts and change it there.

Does that work?

I looked there but it seems to be basically a font replacement table informing
LibreOffice what font to substitute when a document uses a font which is not
available on the computer. This table only sets the font face and not the size.

Secondly, there is a specification for font for html, sql, and Basic sources.
In any case it calls Hack at 15pt which never happens in the spreadsheet.
Doesn't seem to apply to my case.

Calc always gives me the fontface I want/specify in the Default.ots template
(Liberation Sans). My modified template always provides 4 sheets with the font
size set at the 12pt which I specified. The problem which I have to correct
manually each time, occurs when I create a new sheet. The font face is correct
but the size reverts to 10pt on the new sheet.

The same goes if a create a new spreadsheet using File > New > Spreadsheet
without passing by my Default.ots template. The new spreadsheet has the correct
number of sheets with the correct font face but all set at 10pt.

So I conclude that LibreOffice has some setting deeper within its structure
that specifies 10pt. I would like to understand where that setting is and I'm
hoping someone can point me to it.

Philip

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Subject:
[libreoffice-users] Calc default font size
From:
Philip Jackson
Date:
5/21/23, 12:53

To:
LibreOffice

Using LO 7.3.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 22.04

These days, I need a minimum of 12pt font size in Calc. Creation of a new file via File >
New > Spreadsheet opens always with settings at 10pt. I have edited a Default template in
the .config/libreoffice/ directory with 12pt font size and creating a new file via File >
New > Templates > Default does get me a new spreadsheet with settings at 12 pt for the
first 4 sheets but any extra sheets I create are set at 10pt.

In Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > Defaults, there is only an option to specify the
number of sheets in a new spreadsheet. I've searched under Tools > Options > LibreOffice >
Advanced > Open Expert Configuration looking for a default font size setting but without success.

Can anyone advise how and where I can adjust the settings so that by default I always
get new sheets set to 12pt, and preferably by default at the File > New >
Spreadsheet without having to pass via the template ?

Thanks,
Philip

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[libreoffice-users] Calc default font size

2023-05-21 Thread Philip Jackson


Using LO 7.3.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 22.04

These days, I need a minimum of  12pt font size in Calc. Creation of a new file via File > 
New > Spreadsheet opens always with settings at 10pt.  I have edited a Default template in 
the .config/libreoffice/ directory with 12pt font size and creating a new file via File > 
New > Templates > Default  does get me a new spreadsheet with settings at 12 pt for the 
first 4 sheets but any extra sheets I create are set at 10pt.

In Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > Defaults, there is only an option to specify the 
number of sheets in a new spreadsheet. I've searched under Tools > Options > LibreOffice > 
Advanced > Open Expert Configuration looking for a default font size setting but without success.

Can anyone advise how and where I can adjust the settings so that by default I always 
get new sheets set to 12pt, and preferably by default at the File > New > 
Spreadsheet without having to pass via the template ?

Thanks,
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] shrink size and font size of styles sidebar

2023-03-04 Thread Philip Jackson


Thanks to the OP and to V Stuart Foote - that was something I will find useful 
too.

It worked beautifully but I had to close the document and reopen for it to take 
effect.
Philip
On 04/03/2023 02:30, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Sorry for the top post...

Use Tools -> Options -> Advanced  "Open Expert Configuration"

Search for "minimumwidth"

Click the "Edit" button to directly toggle  'MinimumWidth' boolean value from  "true" to 
"false"

OK out to apply.

The Sidebar Deck can now be dragged as narrow as needed before it will collapse 
to show just the deck TAB Bar

=-=-=


Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:26:09 -0500


How do I shrink the styles sidebar? Zoom works lovely on the main window--I used 
"optimal" most of the time, but that doesn't help if I can't shrink the styles 
sidebar.

I can drag to make it bigger but not to make it smaller than a certain size. 
And I can't find anywhere to change the font size. So, for example, if I need 
to shrink the entire Writer window down to share screen space I end up with the 
styles sidebar taking up half the window with large type even when the main doc 
window type is so small it's hardly readable.

There must be some way to do this. I just can't find it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] double-spacing within an outline

2022-12-17 Thread Philip Jackson


It's a little more complex than you describe. If I'm using one of my 'list' 
styles where in its specification, the 'next style' is described as the same, I 
can hit return multiple times and each leaves me a blank line in the same list 
style.

If I'm in my regular 'text body' style and I start a new para in that style, 
then I hit one of the list formatting buttons in the toolbar, my paragraph 
remains in the text body style with formatting applied to provide an indent and 
bullet or number. But I am always in the 'text body' style. If I do not enter 
any text but simply hit return, the next paragraph is still in 'text body' 
style but without the additional formatting supplied by the list button.  And 
the button darkening to which you refer has gone.

For writing which will / or may be later transformed into another format such 
as epub, it is better to avoid 'ad hoc' formatting and make a special style.

Philoip

On 16/12/2022 21:18, Eric Beversluis wrote:

Here's a theory that a bit of testing seems to support:

What if, when one hits 'return,' the 'block outline' style has not been applied 
because there's nothing on the new line.

If then, one hits 'return' again, Writer is not longer following up on any 
particular style so it reverts to the default style.

Tending to confirm this: typing just a blank space before hitting the second 
'return' retains the 'block outline' style.

The behavior of the toolbar 'ordered list' icon shows what's happening. When in 
'block outline,' the icon for 'ordered list' is darkened. If I hit two 
'returns' in a row, the 'no list' icon is darkened. Fn-F12 restores the 
'ordered list' setting--the 'ordered list' icon is darkened again.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] double-spacing within an outline

2022-12-16 Thread Philip Jackson


On 16/12/2022 17:20, Eric Beversluis wrote:

I have a custom outline style that I call 'block outline' because it doesn't 
use bullets or alphanumerics to head the different levels.

It's set to single space. But there are times I want to double space--e.g., to make a 
greater break between "paragraphs" at a given outline level. But when I hit 
enter/return twice I get kicked out of my custom outline style.

Is this a "feature" of LO Writer outlining or is there some setting that will keep me in 
the current outline style when I add an extra line spacing? (The only thing that works now is to 
single space, add some new text, and then go to the start of that "paragraph" and hit 
enter/return again.)

Using Ubuntu 20.04 and LO 7.3.6.2 on Dell XPS.


Hi Eric, there are a couple of ways that I use to do that sort of thing when I 
use bullet or alphanumeric lists that you can also use with what you call your 
block outline style.

The first, for occasional use, is to use a soft return using Shift+Enter. This 
just gives a new line without quitting the existing paragraph.

Second solution which is worth implementing if you do lots of that stuff, is to 
create different styles. I have a 'list1' style for the first item in a list to 
give additional headspace. 'ListCont' style for all the following list items 
with close spacing. 'ListEnd' style for the last item to provide a little extra 
space after the last entry and before the regular 'text body' style.

Philip
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Header beginning on page 2?

2022-11-29 Thread Philip Jackson


The simple answer is to use 'styles' but it is not necessarily simple to 
execute. If you have never used styles, it requires a little work up-front to 
familiarize yourself.

Instead of using what is probably 'Default' page style throughout the document, 
you will need to create a new style for the first page - which you could simple 
call 'FirstPage'. In the definition of that page, you will turn headers and/or 
footers 'Off'.

Then the rest of your document could stay with whatever is your default style 
and with headers and/or footers turned 'On'.

Once you're into styles, you'll discover lots of page variants can be created 
for special purposes within your documents.

hth,
Philip

On 29/11/2022 21:27, RealNameTBA wrote:

Greetings again.

I'm putting together a document which requires page numbers, but in keeping
with the majority of documents the numbers should begin on page 2. I've
looked but found no way to do headers beginning on page 2. Is there one?
If so, how might I invoke it?

(Ideally, there would be a check box, "begins on page 2," but I do
sometimes think that LibreOffice developers, given the choice of ease of
use and tremendous complication, pretty much always choose the latter.)

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to prevent conversion to hyperlink

2022-11-04 Thread Philip Jackson


On 03/11/2022 18:47, Robin Lake wrote:

All --

Greetings, and thank you for all the help and advise you provide.

In LO Calc, how can I prevent an email address or url from becoming a hyperlink 
(thereby printing in blue) when exiting a cell. Or, alternatively, how can I 
remove it from hyperlink status afterwards?

Thank you.
Robin Lake


You can right-click on the cell concerned and from the drop-down context menu, 
select 'remove hyperlink'.  There is also an option to edit the hyperlink. Hope 
this helps.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to prevent conversion to hyperlink

2022-11-03 Thread Philip Jackson


On 03/11/2022 18:47, Robin Lake wrote:

In LO Calc, how can I prevent an email address or url from becoming a hyperlink 
(thereby printing in blue) when exiting a cell. Or, alternatively, how can I 
remove it from hyperlink status afterwards?


Right click on the link in the cell and from the contextual drop down, choose 
delete hyperlink.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems with find/replace with regular expresions

2022-10-04 Thread Philip Jackson


On 04/10/2022 03:29, Nilton Jose Rizzo wrote:

Hey guys I'm using a LO 7.4.1.2 on FreeBSD 14-current and I notice strange behavior. 
When I try to use a regular expression I get this error in the selected table column I 
put in the find field: [:digit:]$ I put in the replace field: &/10 And I press 
replace All and I have &/10 on every line It only works when I press Find All and 
Replace All. Has this behavior changed from version 7.3 to version 7.4?

TIA,


You don't say what you are trying to achieve but it looks like you might be 
attempting to take the last digit from a cell and replace it by a value 1/10 of 
the original. For example, to replace 2 by 0.2

If that is the case, try :

Find:  ([:digit:]$)

and replace: '=$1/10'   without the quotes

and this works with 'find next' and 'replace'

Otherwise, maybe you could explain your objective.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how use page number export as pdf

2022-09-07 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi,

On 07/09/2022 18:48, jindam, vani wrote:

hello lo users,

i am trying to export pages 140-143
as .pdf from .odt file (1).

.odt file:
edit -> goto page -> 140, it shows
page 124 at bottom on .odt file.

the exported .pdf file contains
page numbers 128-131 (at bottom)

does lowriter exported correctly?
if possible, in simple english,
explain how to use page numbers
to export as pdf.

regards,
jindam, vani

(1)https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=118999=edit


I had never before exported to pdf a part of a file but your email prompted me 
to give it a go. I'm using LO 6.4.7.2 on UbuntuStudio. My first go was 
completely successful and this is what I did.

The document has 211 pages with 10 pages front matter before the document's 
page numbering starts. I wanted to export my Chapter 12 which starts on page 
number 147 and ends on page number 153. LO Writer identifies these pages as  
document page number 157 to 163 ( a count of 10 more than the pages' numbering 
due to the front matter).

I selected File > Export as PDF and then in the General tab, under the heading 'Range',  
deselected the  'All' button and selected the 'Pages' button. Then alongside the pages 
button I entered "157-163" (without the quotes). And then clicked Export at bottom 
right.

The result was a new document which just contained Chapter 12 of my original 
document with the pages correctly numbered 147 to 153.

hth

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] certificate undetect

2022-09-05 Thread Philip Jackson


On 05/09/2022 18:12, Michael H wrote:

According to this thread, There are Libreoffice versions on both the
Microsoft and Mac software stores:

https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/is-libreoffice-officially-in-the-windows-store/34578/2

Installing those versions should not have any issues with security
certificates. I don't really keep up with Windows or Mac, but newer MacOS
and certain home editions of windows make it very difficult to install
without certificates. That's an  OS question and not a LibreOffice
question: you'll need to solve it for any program that isn't on the
official store, and the solution is specific to your exact version of OS,
the version of LibreOffice, and the calendar date you are attempting the
install.

If you are trying to compile your own version of LibreOffice, this question
more properly belongs in a developer forum.



On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 3:35 AM lucky star<1364309...@qq.com>  wrote:


Hello,
  My name is Liu, I am a user of LibreOffice both in Windows
and macOS. Currently, the LibreOffice can't detect my certificate in system
certificate storage during digital signing. Can you help me?
BR.
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I think the OP was NOT referring to certificates required when installing 
LibreOffice but rather to   digital signing of a Writer document. It seems LO 
could not locate the OP's signing certificate when he wanted to sign a document.

Apart from seeing in Writer File > Digital Signatures, I don't have any 
experience of storing the certificates or telling LO where they are.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] (reformatted) my ms doc looks differently on lo writer??? share your experiences.

2022-07-26 Thread Philip Jackson


On 26/07/2022 08:02, jindam.lists...@yahoo.com wrote:

fc-list | grep -i fontname


Thank you for that contribution. Yes, the second, formatted, version was easier 
to read.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question on send to email option in linux..

2022-07-19 Thread Philip Jackson

On 18/07/2022 22:56, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 18 Jul 2022 at 22:12, Philip Jackson wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:12:20 +0200
Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Question on send to
email option in linux..
From:   Philip Jackson
To: LibreOffice

On 18/07/2022 21:35, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I have LibreOffice 7.2.7.2 version as
loaded by default for my Fedora 35 and also have
LibreOffice 7.3.4.2 downloaded from libreoffice.

With both I have tried a simple saved file with the word
test in it. File is saved. Have Tools / Options / Internet /
Email set to /usr/bin/WSENDTO (Thou I did also try using
the direct path to program as well.).

Strange - but in all the years I've been using LO Writer and email, I've never 
thought or had reason to look at that setting. But now that you've made me 
curious, I've had a look to see what I've got in Tools / Options / Internet / 
Email and it informs me that my email program is :  sensible-lomua.

I've no idea what that is. I've used Thunderbird in conjunction with Linux and 
LO for many years and it just worked.

Sorry.

Thanks again for the quick response. Don't know if it is
trying something else. In browser I can type
mailto:mi...@guam.net  and it pulls up email client with
no problem. Just seeing nothing with libreoffice, but the
macro works fine.

I thought I'd try to find out a bit more about 'sensible-lomua' which is what 
exists by default in my Tools / Options / Internet / Email.  I guessed that the 
lomua was Libreoffice mail user agent and apparently that has been inherited 
from OpenOffice where it was 'sensible-oomua'.

There was a bug opened in 2011 by someone who had a similar problem:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/841184

Their solution was simply to replace 'sensible-lomua' with 'thunderbird'  
(without the quotes and without any path).

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question on send to email option in linux..

2022-07-18 Thread Philip Jackson


On 18/07/2022 21:35, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I have LibreOffice 7.2.7.2 version as
loaded by default for my Fedora 35 and also have
LibreOffice 7.3.4.2 downloaded from libreoffice.

With both I have tried a simple saved file with the word
test in it. File is saved. Have Tools / Options / Internet /
Email set to /usr/bin/WSENDTO (Thou I did also try using
the direct path to program as well.).


Strange - but in all the years I've been using LO Writer and email, I've never 
thought or had reason to look at that setting. But now that you've made me 
curious, I've had a look to see what I've got in Tools / Options / Internet / 
Email and it informs me that my email program is :  sensible-lomua.

I've no idea what that is. I've used Thunderbird in conjunction with Linux and 
LO for many years and it just worked.

Sorry.


/usr/bin/WSENDTO has this.
#!/bin/bash
echo $0 $1 $2 $3
/home/msetzerii/.wine/drive_c/PMAIL/Programs/WSENDT
O.EXE $1

Strange thing is that absolutely nothing happens. No box
opens, and nothing in way of a error message is showing
up.. But with my simple macro - running it opens the
email client and has the document attached with no
problem...

Simple Macro
Sub Mailto
Dim oDoc As Object
Dim Path$
oDoc = ThisComponent
Path$ = oDoc.getURL()
If oDoc.HasLocation() Then
shell("/home/msetzerii/.wine/drive_c/PMAIL/Programs/W
SENDTO.EXE " (Path$,8,100) )
Else
   Print "The document has not yet been stored"
End If
End Sub

Tools / Marco / Run and selecting it opens the email client
with the file attached..

Not getting anything is what confuses me. Would expect
something to show on screen, but nothing. The macro
calls same program and takes the passed parameter, and
does trim theFILE://  off the parameter.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question on send to email option in linux..

2022-07-18 Thread Philip Jackson


Could there be a problem with your installation of LO?

I'm using LO Writer 6.4.7.2 on UbuntuStudio 20.04 and the Send to email works 
fine. Clicking the File > 'Send to email' opens a write window in my 
Thunderbird mail client with the document already attached.

Philip

On 18/07/2022 12:14, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

Was trying to get the option to work, but after setting the
program for Internet email nothing  happened when I
tried to send to email. No message No Error.

Created a macro that does seem to work, but is very
basic. Just copied stuff I found on web, so some parts
might be better. First writer macro I've done. Usually do
macros in calc.
Found code getURL that gets path to file that must be
saved already. Probable a command to get it without the
file://  but found another thing to remove that.
Then it is just a matter of calling the WSENDTO.EXE
program and adding the full path to the already save file.
That brings up the Pegasus Email client, and adds the
document as an attachment.

Sub Mailto
Dim oDoc As Object
Dim Path$
oDoc = ThisComponent
Path$ = oDoc.getURL()
If oDoc.HasLocation() Then
   Print "The Document URL is " & oDoc.getURL()
   uWithoutProto = Split(oDoc.getURL(),"file://")(1)
shell("/home/msetzerii/.wine/drive_c/PMAIL/Programs/W
SENDTO.EXE " & uWithoutProto)
Else
   Print "The document has not yet been stored"
End If
End Sub

Has print statements from original code, that could be
removed. The WSENDTO.EXE is the mapi client that
works in windows and works from firefox.  Surprized that
nothing shows with libreoffice.

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LOWrite page numbers

2022-06-25 Thread Philip Jackson


On 25/06/2022 03:21, Chris J. wrote:


Hi.


Running Ubuntu 22.04 with LO 7.3.4.2 Ubuntu package 1:7.3.4. Before you ask, 
yes I RTFMed. Still can't get this working.


I write stories where the chapters are individual files. First chapter has 
pages 1-15. Second chapter in a whole other file has to start with page 16. Is 
there a really straight forward example of this somewhere? I remember this 
being easier in Word. I can't get it to work in LO Writer. Thank you.


I'm using LOWriter 6.4.7.2 in Ubuntu 20.04 and I have the same use case. The 
method described in the help page works for me. I have the offline help file 
for v6.4 and here is the paragraph concerned :



To Start With a Defined Page Number

Now you want some more control on page numbers. You are writing a text document 
that should start with page number 12.

1.

Click into the first paragraph of your document.

2.

Choose Format - Paragraph - Text flow.

3.

In the Breaks area, enable Insert. Enable With Page Style just to be able 
to set the new Page number. Click OK.

The new page number is an attribute of the first paragraph of the page.


hth with your version.

Philip

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[libreoffice-users] design improvements needed on user interface

2022-05-09 Thread Philip Jackson


Using LO6.4.7.2 on UbuntuStudio 20.04 LTS (same in LO 7.3.2.2 in W10)

I'm preparing a contents list for a document where lots of clickable links are 
required to sections within the document and this has reminded me of previous 
poor experiences.

In the hyperlink dialogue box, your first selection has to be made in the left 
hand column where I select 'document' (rather than Internet, mail, ...). The 
next selection has to be the target within the document and to make the choice, 
you have to move the mouse right across the dialogue box to click on another 
icon at the extreme right hand side.

That's the first annoying bit. If you're only making one link, it's a very 
minor effort but if you have loads to make, it becomes a chore which aggravates 
a hand already damaged by years of computer use.

A click on that target icon opens another target dialogue where a selection has 
to be made, in my case 'bookmarks' which opens a dropdown list requiring a 
scroll down because I'm in the mid 20's of bookmarks at the moment. The 
bookmark is selected and the 'apply' button is clicked and then the 'close'.

For the next link, all this has to be repeated.

It would be nice if a click on the 'document' selection in the hyperlink 
dialogue box could directly open the target dialogue. If that is not possible, 
then a second best would be to place the target icon over on the left hand side 
of the hyperlink dialogue, right next to the 'document' selection.

It would also be good, too, if the target dialogue would remember your last 
choice and reopen with 'bookmarks' already dropped down and even scrolled to 
where you last left it.

Any thoughts?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] corrupt files when using command line --print-to-file

2022-04-11 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Mike,

I'm using LO 6.4.7.2 on UbuntuStudio 20.04 LTS and your --headless command line 
instruction works and produces a pdf file which passed the pdfinfo check with 
flying colours. I just rechecked to make sure.   So maybe your problem is 
distro related?

But I don't use the --headless command very often because it breaks the links in my 
pdf output. So, I make use of the LO Writer gui to do   file> export as>export 
as pdf  which gets me a workable pdf with working links (clickable table of contents 
etc). If I need to reassemble some pdf docs, I use pdftk utility because so many of 
the others break those links.

Philip

On 11/04/2022 10:51, Mike Scott wrote:

I'm having a spot of bother trying to get a .ps or .pdf produced from a .odt 
using the command line.

I've revisited some code last used a few years ago, whose last step is just to 
use LO to do this conversion. It used to make a .ps file, but that now seems to 
have changed, and I get a .pdf instead - which is corrupt.


So I get for example


libreoffice --headless --print-to-file --outdir "./"  "./y.odt"

print /dhome/mike/homebrew software/service sheet production/web generator/y.odt -> 
/dhome/mike/homebrew software/service sheet production/web generator//y.pdf using 



pdfinfo y.pdf

Syntax Warning: May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)
Syntax Error (2432): Illegal character '{'
Syntax Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary
Syntax Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary
Syntax Error: Couldn't read xref table

The resulting pdf won't load into a browser and upsets several of the pdf 
tools, although gimp or xreader can read it. Fortunately, pdf2ps accepts the 
file, so as a workaround, I do the LO --print-to-file and then run the result 
through pdf2ps and then back through ps2pdf; the result of that contortion 
seems OK.


Looking at the GUI instead, under the tools|options|print page, if I try to set 
options for print to file, the tick box for pdf is set and disabled. Yet if I 
select print to file in the normal print dialogue, I get a valid .ps file not a 
pdf.

I need to run this as a print job, since '--convert-to pdf' doesn't honour the 
brochure setting in place in the document. Using the GUI and printing works 
fine, but isn't useful for automated processing.

If anyone has a way better of doing a command line conversion to a pdf while 
honouring in particular the 'brochure' setting, I'd be grateful.



(This is with LO 6.4.7.2 under mint 20)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] opening a csv file in a calc sheet

2022-02-26 Thread Philip Jackson


Thank you everybody. It is the 'insert sheet from file' that does the job for 
me.

I couldn't find it in the help docs because I wrongly focused on looking for 
info on 'import file into sheet' rather than 'insert sheet from file'.

Just shows the need for more lateral thinking. Thanks again.

Philip

On 26/02/2022 05:02, Steve Edmonds wrote:

And you can also right click in the sheet list at the bottom and insert a sheet 
from file.
Steve

On 26/02/2022 11:31, Philip Jackson wrote:

I sometimes have to work on data which arrives to me in csv text files. I would 
like to have each csv file's data in a separate sheet within a single calc 
file. No matter how I try to open the csv files, each one opens in a fresh calc 
spreadsheet and I have to manually copy / paste the data into a new sheet in my 
main calc spreadsheet.

Is there a way to open a csv file and have the data imported directly inside a 
new sheet of an existing calc file ?

Philip

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[libreoffice-users] opening a csv file in a calc sheet

2022-02-25 Thread Philip Jackson


I sometimes have to work on data which arrives to me in csv text files. I would 
like to have each csv file's data in a separate sheet within a single calc 
file. No matter how I try to open the csv files, each one opens in a fresh calc 
spreadsheet and I have to manually copy / paste the data into a new sheet in my 
main calc spreadsheet.

Is there a way to open a csv file and have the data imported directly inside a 
new sheet of an existing calc file ?

Philip
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot install a separator line above footnotes.

2021-12-31 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Ken,

On 29/12/2021 10:54, Ken Heard wrote:

I know that the first step is to select Format -> Page style ... ->
Footnote, which opens a window with several options for the footnote
properties.  One of the options is 'Style'. Selection of 'None' for
'style' means no separator line.  If a separator line is wanted some
other selection must be made.  Unfortunately for 'style' no other
options besides 'None' are available; so it is impossible to install a
separator line above footnotes. What do I need to do to have other
options for 'style'?

I am using LO 7.2.3.2 with Debian 11 'Bullseye' and the Trinity desktop
environment.


Although on my Ubuntu box using LO 6.4.7.2 I couldn't reproduce your problem, 
today I had occasion to use my Windows 10 machine which has LO 7.1.2.2 
installed directly from the Document Foundation site. On that version, there 
are three methods to access the format footnote info and one of these produces 
an empty dropdown list for the footnote style.

Accessing the footnote tab from Format > Page Style > footnote tab shows line 
options in the dropdown for the footnote style. The same happens when I access the 
page style tab via the styles panel (which appears on the rhs of the screen when I 
use F11.

However, the page styles list includes a specific style entry for 'footnote' 
which I certainly did not create. When I right clicked on this footnote style 
and selected 'modify', it tool me to what looks like the normal page style 
dialogue with a footnote tab. Selecting this tab produced a line style dropdown 
set to 'none' with just a blank space beneath the 'none'. It looked just like 
you described, ie no other options. But hovering the cursor over the blank 
space within the dropdown shows that the three options - solid, dotted, dashed, 
are in fact present but not displayed.

The reason they're not displayed seems to be that the defaults in this approach 
to footnote modification have the line thickness set at 0 pt. As soon as this 
was changed to another value, the 3 options became visible.

If I set the thickness to 0pt in my linux box, the same blank options dropdown 
is displayed.  Is that the answer to your problem?

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] changing anchor of image drops me to end of document

2021-11-24 Thread Philip Jackson


On 24/11/2021 00:28, Philip Jackson wrote:

Writer in LO 6.4.7.2 in Ubuntu 20.4

The actual operation of changing the anchor point gets completed correctly and 
I eventually found that the easy way to get back to my correct place in the 
document was simply to hit the up arrow key. At first, it was an annoying 
scroll back up to the right place until I found that a simple click of the up 
arrow key would do the job. But I am puzzled by this behaviour. Any ideas?


This ceased to be a problem today. Solved by another reboot? Probably was 
something introduced by Ubuntu updates 2 days' ago. Those same 'security' 
updates (mainly of LO) were extensive. They downloaded and installed quietly 
behind the scenes - no reboot required. But I was working in LO with Writer and 
Calc during the download and somewhat later in the day, when opening older 
spreadsheets I discovered they were empty - no contents at all. I quickly 
figured that it might be connected with the updates so I rebooted. Sure enough, 
that made all my older spreadsheets ok again.

When I had the problem with the images in Writer, subject of this thread, my 
machine had already had a couple of reboots so I didn't suspect the updates. 
But today, after a 3rd reboot, all is back to what I consider 'normal'.

Sorry, list,  - bothered you for nothing.

Philip


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[libreoffice-users] changing anchor of image drops me to end of document

2021-11-23 Thread Philip Jackson


Writer in LO 6.4.7.2 in Ubuntu 20.4

I am reformatting some documents to a larger print size. This involves changing 
layout of pages and the requirement to perform some operations on images. For 
each image, I need to turn off wrap, change the anchor point from paragraph to 
character and then align middle to anchor.

I completed this reformatting task on Vol 1 with some 90 odd images with 
absolutely no problem (other than wrist ache). Today I started on Vol 2, again 
with around 90 images but right from the first image I got this strange effect. 
I can turn the wrap off ok, but when I change the anchor from paragraph to 
character, my display of the document zaps me down some 120 pages right to the 
very end of the document.

The actual operation of changing the anchor point gets completed correctly and 
I eventually found that the easy way to get back to my correct place in the 
document was simply to hit the up arrow key. At first, it was an annoying 
scroll back up to the right place until I found that a simple click of the up 
arrow key would do the job. But I am puzzled by this behaviour. Any ideas?

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font size settings in paragraph styles

2021-11-23 Thread Philip Jackson


Thanks to John and Remy - I was expecting to find an option to check or a flag 
to set. It hadn't occurred to me that it was sufficient to type in pt or %.

I've restored pts where I want them and happiness to my soul.
Philip

On 23/11/2021 01:52, Remy Gauthier wrote:

Greetings,

When you go in the Font tab, you can specify a size in points by
entering a value followed by "pt" (ex 14pt). This will flip the display
from percentage to points. You could also put a percentage value (ex
130%) to flip back to a percentage. This seems to work only for
children styles where the percentage is versus the font size defined
for the parent. It looks like the panel "remembers" so when you open
again it shows the same units as the ones you entered (not sure if it
is remembered from session to session - something to try later).

I hope this helps.
Rémy.
Le lundi 22 novembre 2021 à 23:50 +0100, Philip Jackson a écrit :

LO 6.4.7.2 in Ubuntu 20.4

Normally over the years with all my Writer documents I've been able
to set font sizes in pts for H1, H2, H3, H4 etc heading styles with
no problems. In the past couple of weeks I've come across documents
where the font sizes are specified as % for these heading styles
(other styles appear to be still directly set in pt values).

I've not been able to find any reference to this in the help files.
Is there a way to drop the % settings and revert to direct setting in
pts?

Thanks,

Philip






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[libreoffice-users] Font size settings in paragraph styles

2021-11-22 Thread Philip Jackson


LO 6.4.7.2 in Ubuntu 20.4

Normally over the years with all my Writer documents I've been able to set font 
sizes in pts for H1, H2, H3, H4 etc heading styles with no problems. In the 
past couple of weeks I've come across documents where the font sizes are 
specified as % for these heading styles (other styles appear to be still 
directly set in pt values).

I've not been able to find any reference to this in the help files. Is there a 
way to drop the % settings and revert to direct setting in pts?

Thanks,

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to print a section of a SS

2021-10-19 Thread Philip Jackson


On 19/10/2021 14:05, Brian Barker wrote:

The documentation thinks it is a bug. Under "Using print ranges", it says:
"You can define which range of cells on a spreadsheet are to be printed or exported 
to a PDF. The cells on the sheet that are not part of the defined print range are not 
printed or exported. Also, any sheets without a defined print range are not printed or 
exported."


I find it exports to pdf as advertised. If I select and define a range on one 
of the sheets, just that gets exported but care is needed because different 
dialogues are involved and they can conflict.

There is the defining of print ranges where if you have defined nothing and go to 
format > print ranges > edit, you will see that by default the print range of 
each sheet is defined as 'entire sheet' .  You can, if you think of it, change that 
on each sheet to 'none'.

If you use export as pdf, the export dialogue again has a range selection 
possibility : All, Pages, Selection/Selected sheet(s).

I doubt whether many people think of checking  "format > print ranges > edit"  
if they have never set a range in the first place.

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] unwanted red lines on spreadsheet and info boxes

2021-10-05 Thread Philip Jackson


On 05/10/2021 01:18, Brian Barker wrote:


To suppress the recording (and display) of changes, toggle off Edit | Track 
Changes > | Record.

I trust this helps.


Thank you, Brian. That's exactly what it was.  Since I have never knowingly 
used Track Changes and it never affected the top half of my data, it must have 
turned itself on. Now, I know that is not a reasonable supposition so I have 
investigated to try to understand what I did.

I was working automatically, almost on autopilot, using a series of keyboard 
shortcuts - Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-X, Shift-Ctrl-V, Shift-Ctrl-Alt-V, arrow keys, 
Enter ...  etc. I must have accidentally hit an unwanted key.

Searching in Tools | Customize | Keyboard for existing shortcuts revealed under 
Category | Edit, a shortcut for Record Shift-Ctrl-C.  That is what I must have 
hit once and only once because it acts as an on-off toggle and the second time 
produces a dialogue box which gives the game away.

Thanks again, Brian. My knowledge has been increased and I'll know better next 
time.

Philip


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[libreoffice-users] unwanted red lines on spreadsheet and info boxes

2021-10-04 Thread Philip Jackson


LO 6.4.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 20.04

Suddenly in the middle of a sheet of a newly created spreadsheet, it has 
developed a rash of red lines. Some enclose a range of cells and some just 
appear on the whole row.

If I hover over these red lines, a small yellow info box opens which informs me 
that I, at date, time, deleted rows xx:yy.  Or if the line is a box enclosing a 
range of cells, the note tells me that on date/time I moved Range A12:B12 to 
C13:D13.

I don't know what I did to cause these lines to appear and what's worse. I 
don't know how to make them vanish. I certainly didn't change anything in 
Tools/Options. I have checked all menu columns and tried to find some reference 
in the Manual but without success.

What I was doing when these lines appeared was pasting text data into a single 
column over about 40 or 50 rows, deleting rows I didn't need and then selecting 
two adjacent cells, cutting them out with Ctrl-X, selecting a new empty cell 
higher in the column and then pasting the contents in with Paste Special 
(Shift-Ctrl-V) using the transpose function to paste to two adjacent cells in 
the same row. I have done this hundreds of times over a lengthy period with 
many spreadsheets and this evening I had completed the operations some 20 to 25 
times with no problem then suddenly it all went wrong.

I've tried copying the info over to a new sheet but red lines follow and, 
worse,  everywhere I move the cursor on the new sheet, a little box attached to 
the cursor provides info (unwanted).

No doubt I had some faulty manipulation somewhere but if anyone can tell me how 
to get rid of this unwanted info, and what I did to provoke it, I'd be grateful.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Callout Style settings

2021-07-25 Thread Philip Jackson



On 25/07/2021 15:49, John Kaufmann wrote:

Hi Regina,
On 2021-07-23 20:30, Regina Henschel wrote:

Steve Edmonds schrieb am 18.07.2021 um 23:05:

...
Is it possible to set Writer callout text paragraph style (or default settings, 
if so where please.
This is to avoid having to change the font and left hand offset in every line 
callout one at a time.


No, it is not possible. Using the legacy callouts or the custom shape callouts 
makes no difference. You get always a shape and in Writer neither for the shape 
itself nor for the text in the shape styles are possible. You can only use 
direct formatting in Writer.


Your distinction between legacy callouts and custom shape callouts implies that 
the basic idea has been around for some time, and special callout shapes were 
added later. Do you recall when it started, and at what point someone was moved 
to add custom shapes? In order to understand the issue (and any possible 
deficiencies) further, I would like to:
 (1) see the earliest Writer Guide and Help in which callouts are mentioned;
 (2) try to understand why special shapes were of more interest than style 
support;
 (3) try to understand the intended use of the "Callouts" toolbar, and why it 
has not been made visible;
 (4) try to understand when and why Vertical Callouts were added to the Drawing 
toolbar (but not made visible).


I've been intrigued by this thread. Callouts was something I'd never heard of 
but I've now found them quite useful. As far as documentation is concerned, I 
have an old file, GS42-GettingStartedLO.pdf, from 2014 in which a search for 
'callouts' gets several hits on 3 pages.

The first says "For more information, see the Draw Guide Chapter 7 Getting Started 
with Draw, or the Impress Guide Chapters 4, 5, and 6."   I don't have either of 
these two.

The next says "Click on the triangle to the right of the Callouts icon to open the 
Callouts toolbar for drawing".  So it would appear that the callouts toolbar is 
nothing more than a dropdown from the callouts icon in the Drawing toolbar.

The 3rd page just shows that there are 2 callout icons on the Drawing toolbar. 
In fact, in my copy of Writer (6.4.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 20.04.2) there are those 
2 icons, one with a dropdown list of  7 icons (the toolbar?) and the other a 
single icon which gives a simple rectangular callout shape.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Breaking of external links in Writer works poorly

2021-05-28 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Sophi,

On 28/05/2021 11:09, sophi wrote:

Hi Philip,
Le 26/05/2021 à 20:40, Philip Jackson a écrit :

I want to make a new version of a book I wrote in Writer around 2016. My
master document has 16 chapters with 68 images linked in (as distinct
from embedded). The odt file is 6.4 MB and the images total another 5.4
MB, they are b line drawings in png format.

My standard practice which I've carried out many times over the last few
years (but not in the past year) is to make a copy of the master odt
file and then to break the links in that copy so that the images are
embedded. Then I save the file and move the copy to a new directory and
prepare the new edition.

This time, however, the link breaking doesn't work fully. To break the
links, I go Edit > 'Links to external files', highlight all the links
and click "Break link". Checking on Edit then shows 'Links to external
files' greyed out and right clicking on any image and checking the
properties doesn't show any path for the image. So all looks good and it
appears that the links have been broken and the images are now embedded.

After moving to a new directory, the first 7 chapters were ok but the
remainder showed missing images. Moving the file back to its original
directory got all the missing images back again and Edit > 'Links to
external files' showed that half the images were, in fact,  still linked.

Various trials showed that breaking the links 1 or 2 at a time worked
(as did right-click on the image and then 'Replace'). Attempting to
break four or more links at a stroke appeared to work but saving,
closing and reopening the file (without even moving to a new directory)
show that the links are all still present.

I have repeated these trials many times using both LO 6.4.7.2 on
UbuntuStudio 20.4.2 and also LO 7.1.2.2 on Windows10. The result is
always as I've described above. So I don't suspect a fault in my
installations but I do wonder if something has changed within Writer
since I made my original file in 2016  relative to the linking process?

Has anyone else experienced problems in this area?

Could you report your experience on this issue and if possible provide a
test sample ?
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140829
Thanks in advance,
Kind regards
Sophie


I've done as you asked and included a demo file with 14 linked images of which 
roughly half get broken when I try to break all the links.

Philip


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[libreoffice-users] Breaking of external links in Writer works poorly

2021-05-26 Thread Philip Jackson

I want to make a new version of a book I wrote in Writer around 2016. My master
document has 16 chapters with 68 images linked in (as distinct from embedded). The
odt file is 6.4 MB and the images total another 5.4 MB, they are b line
drawings in png format.

My standard practice which I've carried out many times over the last few years
(but not in the past year) is to make a copy of the master odt file and then to
break the links in that copy so that the images are embedded. Then I save the
file and move the copy to a new directory and prepare the new edition.

This time, however, the link breaking doesn't work fully. To break the links, I go Edit >
'Links to external files', highlight all the links and click "Break link".
Checking on Edit then shows 'Links to external files' greyed out and right clicking on any
image and checking the properties doesn't show any path for the image. So all looks good and
it appears that the links have been broken and the images are now embedded.

After moving to a new directory, the first 7 chapters were ok but the remainder
showed missing images. Moving the file back to its original directory got all the
missing images back again and Edit > 'Links to external files' showed that half
the images were, in fact, still linked.

Various trials showed that breaking the links 1 or 2 at a time worked (as did
right-click on the image and then 'Replace'). Attempting to break four or more
links at a stroke appeared to work but saving, closing and reopening the file
(without even moving to a new directory) show that the links are all still
present.

I have repeated these trials many times using both LO 6.4.7.2 on UbuntuStudio
20.4.2 and also LO 7.1.2.2 on Windows10. The result is always as I've described
above. So I don't suspect a fault in my installations but I do wonder if
something has changed within Writer since I made my original file in 2016
relative to the linking process?

Has anyone else experienced problems in this area?

Philip

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Formatting cell with decimal point but no decimal digits

2021-05-11 Thread Philip Jackson

On 11/05/2021 03:22, Joel Roth wrote:

Using LibreOffice 7.0.5.2 on macOS High Sierra (10.13.6), setting the
number format to "#,##0\." (without the quotes, of course) works for me.
("#,##0.." also works, but that's too bizarre.;-)

On my version (6.1.5) both of these formats display the cell
contents with a trailing decimal point, but with this
formatting, inputting 123.45 results in cell content 12345.

This thread caught my eye and I can't imagine the use case for displaying the
digital point as the OP wishes - but I gave his model a try as I did also with
the two expressions proposed by Chuck. I am using Calc 6.4.7.2 in Ubuntu
20.04.2 The results were surprising.

I entered 123.59 in some cells in 3 columns formatted as: -

1) Numbers #,##0"."

2) Numbers #,##0\.

3) Numbers #,##0..

All three columns then displayed my entries as "124." ie, rounded up and with a final
"."

But, when I entered 123.59 into other empty cells in those 3 pre-formatted columns, my
new entries were displayed as "12,359." in each case.

So applying the format to an already entered number gives a final "." - I don't
know whether the rounding up is acceptable or not. But I imagine the OP wants to enter
his number into cells that already have his format applied.

Curiously, when I selected my 3 columns and attempted to return to 'normality' by
formatting the cells to Numbers > General, nothing happened. I had to change to
some other format than Number (eg date) and then back to numbers-general to get a
result.

When Numbers-General was eventually restored, the "124." entries were returned to their original states of
"123.59" but those entries applied to the pre-formatted columns and which then displayed as
"12,359." became "12359" under the restored numbers-general regime.

Philip

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing READ/UNREAD Tab

2021-04-28 Thread Philip Jackson


On 28/04/2021 17:12, Vince@GMAIL wrote:

TB 78.10.0

Again:  No longer see a tab which allows for selecting display list of only 
messages that have not yet been read.

Somehow, I have toggled this feature off.  I did recently change location of 
several tabs.

I have experienced this problem before, but cannot recall the steps to recover, 
which were simple to do.


Although TB wouldn't seem to be a LibreOffice problem, what I do in TB is have 
a 'Quick Filter' button in the Mail toolbar. This button, when clicked offers a 
choice of unread emails.

I always thought it a bit of an abberation that clicking on the 'Unread' column 
header didn't do a sort like clicking on any of the other headers does.
hth
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO not finding my scanner

2021-04-05 Thread Philip Jackson


On 15/02/2021 13:41, insomniacno1 wrote:

2 years later and this is still an issue not only on Linux but also on
Windows XP up to Windows 10, People on the net in various forums have
reported that while scanning does not work in LibreOffice they had it
working in OpenOffice(I have not yet tested that).

I have had this issue since Libreoffice 6.2.2.8 which came installed with my
Peach OSI TW 16.04 LTS(Xubuntu) 64bit, i also tried 6.3.

I just removed all instances of LibeOffice today and installed the snap
version of 7.0.4.2 to see if the problem were solved, but no it's still
there. In Writer, I go to insert-Media-Scan-select source and nothing
happens.


I'd never noticed that this option existed, so I thought I'd give it a try.

My old Epson V200 scanner was plugged into my Windows 10 box so I fired it up, 
Writer as well (LO 7.0.2.2).

It worked first go and scanned a page right into a new document.

An interesting discovery, thanks.

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] what's included in file properties record

2021-01-21 Thread Philip Jackson


On 21/01/2021 09:35, Ian Graham wrote:

I set up a new computer in December, on which I'm in 6.0.7.3.

I have imported various dox originally created in earlier versions on
other computers. In one of those, the Statistics tab includes eg the
date originally created, and date modified. But looking in the same
place re a file created on this machine in 6.0.7.3, those categories
don't even appear as blanks.


The date created and date modified are under the General tab of Properties

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] macros - where stored for Calc

2021-01-10 Thread Philip Jackson


On 10/01/2021 08:49, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den sön 10 jan. 2021 kl 08:35 skrev Tom Cloyd MS MA <

tomcloydm...@gmail.com>:

I recently moved my LO user profile to a new computer, but my Calc
macros were not to be found. I had to recreate them. I am about to
repeat this move with another computer. I REALLY want to move my macros
also, but somehow my backups is not catching them.

Please - where are they stored?

Here's what I replied:

Mine seem to be located at ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/basic/
In ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/basic/Standard I find my own global
macros. They are stored in XML format with file suffixes like xba, xlb,
xlc, xdl …
The xdl files are for dialogues, by the way.

I'm running Manjaro. I guess it could be slightly different in other
operating systems.


My LO templates spent years being in a subdirectory in the
~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/  structure but after an update (system or LO, I 
can't remember now) they all apparently disappeared. Hunting around, I found 
them in my home root directory  ~/Templates/

I don't recall ever having moved them there (but I cannot exclude it 100%) but 
it seems as good a place as any.
Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] bug in LARGE function?

2020-11-26 Thread Philip Jackson


On 26/11/2020 04:09, stmoose wrote:

if I have done this correctly, this link (
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iJ3x4tKNv3Hr9ucYnJqRGWE7Ky8ivfmL/view?usp=sharing
) should give you access to a file that I have trying to get the LARGE
function to work

created in calc 7.0.2.2 since updated to 7.0.3 (but large function not
working, or at least not how I thought it should :(

a summary of what I have in case you cant download the file

in cell b4 to z4 are values 320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 320
,320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 320, 322, 322,323, 323, 323, 323, 323, 323,
323

in cell b8 formula =LARGE(B4:Z4,2)   gives the result 323   (but I would
think that it should return 322? - right?
i am using the LARGE function incorrectly?


The 2 in your formula is the rank. Because you have 7 identical values of 323 
in your data, the formula will not return 322 until you change it to 
=LARGE(B4:Z4,8)

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc] Convert GPS coords from DMS to decimals?

2020-11-22 Thread Philip Jackson


On 22/11/2020 12:30, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Ha ha ha… this time I also looked at your original link. The image there
uses both E and O. Do they mean the same or else, what do they mean? Is E
for East and O for West or maybe the other way around? Anyway, in my
examples, just input a positive number for East and a negative number for
West and replace the O in my example with whatever means East.
Same goes for North and South, of course. A negative number means south, a
positive number means north. Replace the N in my example with whatever
means North in your language.


In French : N nord = north, S  sud = south, O ouest = west, E est = east

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] finding duplicates in a column in Calc

2020-11-13 Thread Philip Jackson


Thank you, Rémy.
This is the solution I was hoping for. It works without requiring a prior data 
sort.

I have previously used conditional formatting for other reasons but hadn't 
noticed the 'duplicate' option therein. Strange that it wasn't mentioned in the 
Calc online help.

Philip

On 12/11/2020 17:06, Remy Gauthier wrote:

Hello.
You can highlight the column and select Format > Conditional >
Condition > [Cell Value] [is duplicate] (from the drop downs) and
select a style to apply (Warning is probably a good one). This will set
all duplicate entries in that style (if you selected Warning, the text
will be red).

You can also remove duplicates with Data > More Filters > Standard
Filters; if your data is in column A, for example, then you go [Column
A] [=] [Not Empty] (from the drop downs), and then in the options: No
duplications, Copy results to [A cell address].

I hope this helps.
Rémy.

Le jeudi 12 novembre 2020 à 14:55 +0100, Philip Jackson a écrit :

I sometimes import a load of data into a column and am looking for a way to 
detect duplicates. The data is mostly alpha but could contain some digits.

At present, I sort the data in the column alphabetically and then manually 
inspect for duplicates. But with some data, I don't want to do an alpha sort.

I don't find any way in Calc's menus to do this and the online help gives 
nothing for 'duplicates'. Maybe someone has an idea of a regex that could be 
used ?


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[libreoffice-users] finding duplicates in a column in Calc

2020-11-12 Thread Philip Jackson


I sometimes import a load of data into a column and am looking for a way to 
detect duplicates. The data is mostly alpha but could contain some digits.

At present, I sort the data in the column alphabetically and then manually 
inspect for duplicates. But with some data, I don't want to do an alpha sort.

I don't find any way in Calc's menus to do this and the online help gives 
nothing for 'duplicates'. Maybe someone has an idea of a regex that could be 
used ?

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Tab Stops

2020-11-05 Thread Philip Jackson


On 05/11/2020 06:19, Richard England wrote:

LO v7.0.3.1 on Fedora 33 and  right click on the ruler inserts a tab for me.

On 11/4/20 7:43 PM, Joe Conner wrote:

I have LibreOffice 7.0.3.1 running on Ubuntu 20.10 64-bit.

What happened to the former ability to right-click on the top ruler and insert 
a tab stop?
If the feature still exists, where was it moved to and why


Strange - I have LO 6.4.6.2 on UbuntuStudio and 7.0.2.2 on Windows10 and in 
Writer on both of them, a right click on the top ruler produces a drop down for 
options on ruler units (mm, cm, inches, etc).

On both of my installations, there is a small tab emblem at the extreme left 
end of the ruler bar. Left clicking on that emblem cycles it thro the various 
types of tab (left, right center ...). When you have the one you need, a simple 
left click at your selected point on the ruler places that tab type where you 
want it.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] corrupted font name and size display in format bar in Calc

2020-10-02 Thread Philip Jackson


On 01/10/2020 20:36, JPS wrote:

On 01/10/2020 13.28, Philip Jackson wrote:

In LO 6.4.5.2 and 6.4.6.2 (UbuntuStudio), whenever I open one of my spread 
sheets, made years' ago but in weekly use, I find that the font name and the 
font size is slightly corrupted in the formatting toolbar.

The size should be 10 but it looks like both 20 and 10 written in the same 
space at same time. Equally the font name should be Liberation Sans but it too 
looks sometimes like a combination of two names. This is less common that the 
font size corruption.

If I highlight a cell and click the font size dropdown, the correct size is 
clearly displayed. If I then select another cell, instead of displaying 10 it 
looks like a mix of 10 and 12 (not 20 and 10 as when first opened) until I 
again click on the dropdown.

If I close the formatting bar and reopen it, the corruption is back.


Hi Philip,

Exactly the same issue here but not only in Calc but also in Writer, Impress 
and Draw. No old documents needed to reproduce it. Just open any of these 
modules, type in some characters so that you have at least two different fonts 
and two different font sizes. Then point the cursor in the text to the 
different fonts and font sizes and that's it.

I am currently using Xubuntu 20.04, Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and Ubuntu Budgie 
20.04. I downloaded LO 6.3.6.2, LO 6.4.6.2 and LO 7.0.1.2 from libreoffice.org 
and installed them in an external hard drive so that I can access these 
installations from any distro. The issue only occurs when running these 
installations of LO 6.3 or LO 6.4 from Ubuntu Studio; it does never happen with 
LO 7.0 (regardless of the distro) and it also never happens when running any of 
these same three installations of LO from Xubuntu or from Ubuntu Budgie.


Thanks for your confirmation, JPS. I can confirm that I get the effect in 
Writer too. I hadn't noticed it before but you're quite right.  Interesting 
that you get the poor display only in UbuntuStudio and even using downloads of 
LO direct from libreoffice.org.

I made a fresh, clean installation of UbuntuStudio 20.04.1 at the beginning of 
August and my experience with it so far is that it is the worst since I started 
with this distro back in 14.04. I have some applications that take 32 seconds 
to start up regardless of whether it is the first start or an n'th start since 
bootup. I had xscreensaver which wouldn't kick in until I disabled the startup 
script that came with the distro. Some applications do start normally but some 
are always slow and some of these slow ones were part of the distribution and 
not something I installed later.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact announced by UbuntuStudio that their 
dev's were pretty well all working with Kubuntu and the KDE Plasma desktop. 
20.04 was their last planned release with the XFCE desktop.

Anyway, it does not appear to be a subject for this discussion group and would 
be more correctly dealt with on the Ubuntu forums.

Thanks and best regards,
Philip


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[libreoffice-users] corrupted font name and size display in format bar in Calc

2020-10-01 Thread Philip Jackson


In LO 6.4.5.2 and 6.4.6.2 (UbuntuStudio), whenever I open one of my spread 
sheets, made years' ago but in weekly use, I find that the font name and the 
font size is slightly corrupted in the formatting toolbar.

The size should be 10 but it looks like both 20 and 10 written in the same 
space at same time. Equally the font name should be Liberation Sans but it too 
looks sometimes like a combination of two names. This is less common that the 
font size corruption.

If I highlight a cell and click the font size dropdown, the correct size is 
clearly displayed. If I then select another cell, instead of displaying 10 it 
looks like a mix of 10 and 12 (not 20 and 10 as when first opened) until I 
again click on the dropdown.

If I close the formatting bar and reopen it, the corruption is back.

Has anybody else had this problem? Is it perhaps a distro introduced phenomenon?
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Access Edit Mode

2020-09-25 Thread Philip Jackson


On 25/09/2020 19:40, aln wrote:

I wish to edit a Read-Only spreadsheet document, but cannot find the Edit
Mode button - it is not displayed under the Edit tab. How do I get to it?
libreoffice01.JPG


On my read only docs, I switch on Edit Mode in the Edit menu. On my version, 
6.4.5.2, Edit mode is the last entry on the Edit menu drop down list and has a 
check box.

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc] Keyboard shortcut to delete current row when focus on one of its cells?

2020-09-22 Thread Philip Jackson


On 21/09/2020 22:48, Dave Howorth wrote:

Well the diagram in the book also has the buttons at the bottom in a
different order. Either they used a different version of the software,
or maybe a different desktop environment. The joy of linux:)

But no, there are no underlines on the selections in [my] real life.


Nor mine -  on 6.4.5.2

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO normally appear in Windows 10 start menu?

2020-09-20 Thread Philip Jackson


On 20/09/2020 17:52, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 20/09/2020 10:09, Philip Jackson wrote:

I do have the feeling that originally LibreOffice did appear in the start menu 
but perhaps my memory fails me. Or did a Windows 10 update remove the listing 
from the Start Menu?

Any suggestions about how to get LO and its modules to appear (reappear) in the 
start menu?


It must have been a recent Windows update. I just discovered that the various 
Amazon apps like Kindle Previewer, Kindle Create are now missing from the Start 
menu. They were definitely there on Wednesday 16th Sept because I used Create 
to make a kindle version of an ebook on that date.

Avid Sibelius notation software no longer appears in the Start Menu and nor do 
Dragon Dictate and Scrivener. Looks like everything non-Microsoft has 
disappeared from the Start Menu. I can find and launch them through the search 
button so all is not lost.

Well, I was always used to weird things happening with Windows and I have read 
a lot over the years about problems created by Windows update but this is the 
first time I've had a problem.


A small footnote : I have 2 accounts on W10, my user account and my admin 
account. The admin account still has a complete Start Menu. Only the user 
account has lost all the non-Microsoft stuff.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO normally appear in Windows 10 start menu?

2020-09-20 Thread Philip Jackson


On 20/09/2020 10:09, Philip Jackson wrote:

I do have the feeling that originally LibreOffice did appear in the start menu 
but perhaps my memory fails me. Or did a Windows 10 update remove the listing 
from the Start Menu?

Any suggestions about how to get LO and its modules to appear (reappear) in the 
start menu?


It must have been a recent Windows update. I just discovered that the various 
Amazon apps like Kindle Previewer, Kindle Create are now missing from the Start 
menu. They were definitely there on Wednesday 16th Sept because I used Create 
to make a kindle version of an ebook on that date.

Avid Sibelius notation software no longer appears in the Start Menu and nor do 
Dragon Dictate and Scrivener. Looks like everything non-Microsoft has 
disappeared from the Start Menu. I can find and launch them through the search 
button so all is not lost.

Well, I was always used to weird things happening with Windows and I have read 
a lot over the years about problems created by Windows update but this is the 
first time I've had a problem.

Philip


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[libreoffice-users] Does LO normally appear in Windows 10 start menu?

2020-09-20 Thread Philip Jackson


In the course of investigating another thread, I went to make a couple of new 
files in LO Writer on my W10 box. I was surprised to be unable to find 
LibreOffice or any of its modules in the Start Menu.

I only keep W10 for use of a couple of applications that either don't work or 
work poorly under linux so some weeks, W10 spends more time updating than 
creating. It is maintained fully up to date.

Way back, I installed LibreOffice 6.3.5.2 but usually I start Writer or Calc from the 
File Explorer right click drop-down's "start with ...".

I do have the feeling that originally LibreOffice did appear in the start menu 
but perhaps my memory fails me. Or did a Windows 10 update remove the listing 
from the Start Menu?

Any suggestions about how to get LO and its modules to appear (reappear) in the 
start menu?

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

2020-09-20 Thread Philip Jackson


On 20/09/2020 01:07, Robert Funnell wrote:

FWIW, I just tried it in LO 6.1.5.2 under Debian Linux 10 and it worked as you 
said, without an error message, and with the very misleading appearance of the 
absolute path in LO (but with the relative path appearing in content.xml).

- Robert F.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020, Regina Henschel wrote:


Hi Dave,

I have now used an English UI, and now the correct fields. Open Hyperlink-dialog, click 
Document. Click "Open File" button at the ride side of the Document Path field.

I have tried with system open file dialog and with LO's own dialog. It works in 
both cases. Ctrl-click opens e.g. a linked .odt file in LibreOffice.

I work on Windows 10. What OS do you use? Perhaps there is an error in Linux?


I just tried in UbuntuStudio 20.04.1 with LO 6.4.5.2 and the procedure works 
fine as Regina said.

But as Robert says, too, the path is indicated in the absolute form in the 
Document Path field. Right clicking on the link and selecting Edit Hyperlink 
also shows an absolute path. But inspection of content.xml confirms that the 
path is relative.

If the file with the hyperlink is moved to a different directory, the link 
updates showing again an absolute path as though the linked file has also been 
moved. But, of course, the link no longer works because it was relative and all 
the files concerned are no longer in the same directory.

I rechecked on a Windows10 box (up to date) with LO 6.3.5.2 and the behaviour 
is exactly the same, showing an absolute path when really it is relative.

Indicating an absolute path in the linking dialogue is misleading.

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Find all within brackets

2020-09-11 Thread Philip Jackson


On 11/09/2020 01:38, Ade Malsasa Akbar wrote:

Interesting question, Seamas. I found a reference here
https://stackoverflow.com/a/27225148 and tried that on LibreOffice
Writer 6.4 and it seems it works:

(?<=\[).+?(?=\])

It can find your "[thus]" without the brackets.

I've tried the various regex in this thread and this last one (above) produces 
an unusual result for me.

In the Find and Replace dialogue, if I press "Find Next" it finds the next occurence and highlights only the 
contents inside the brackets as expected. But the odd behaviour comes when I press "Replace" - it does not 
replace the contents but just finds the next occurrence.  In other words, the "Replace" button acts exactly 
the same as the "Find Next" button.

If I select "Replace All", it does just that.  I usually avoid the 'replace 
all' function because of the possibility of unexpected consequences, at least until after 
I have used the 'Find Next' and 'Replace' sequence a few times.

For the other regex in this thread, the "Find Next" and "Replace" buttons 
behave correctly.

I tried many times also using the alternative expression mentioned in the link 
above,

||

|(?<=\[)[^]]+(?=\])  ,|and the result was always the same - in my LibreOffice 
Writer 6.4.5.2.

Philip




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[libreoffice-users] embedded media in Writer files

2020-08-23 Thread Philip Jackson


Using UbuntuStudio 20.04.1 with LO 6.4.5.2

I hoped to enhance a training document with some media so I embedded a short 
video clip, mp4, relevant to the text in Writer. This has caused me to run into 
2 problems.

1. I cannot find a way to format the standard presentation to eliminate 
unwanted parts of the 'video screen'. The short video clip (12 seconds) only 
effectively occupies the top 40% of the video window presented in Writer. The 
lower 60% just uselessly occupies a part of the page with a white background. I 
would like the clip to be full page width for readability. Unlocking the 
'ratio' and reducing the clip height just compresses the useful part and makes 
it useless (as I would expect).

With still images, I would just run the image through an editor and cut out its 
blank lower 'half'. I suppose, video is made to some fixed 'canvas' size 4:3 or 
16:9 or whatever.  I'm afraid my video knowledge is pretty limited.

Does anyone know a solution for this, either inside LO or using external 
editors?

2. Second problem concerns exporting the document from Writer to pdf. On the 
face of it, the export goes well and the pdf opens nicely in a pdf reader. 
Clicking on the video clip causes it play with a pause control popping up. Then 
the trouble starts. It appears impossible to lose focus off the video clip and 
the trouble manifests differently whether one has scrolling enabled or whether 
one goes up and down page by page.

With scrolling enabled, the video clip display fills with random text from 
neighboring paragraphs so a reader can no longer refer to the still display of 
the first frame. When clicking up and down page by page, the video clip floats 
to the new page(s). The only way out seems to be to close and reopen the pdf. 
This is not a good solution.

I have tried the various settings offered by Writer for the export to pdf but 
nothing seems to change this behavior.

Any ideas or pointers to useful resources would be welcome, thanks?

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] defective field in header on one page

2020-08-03 Thread Philip Jackson


On 03/08/2020 00:05, Michael H wrote:

In order to see better what's going on , you can save the file as .fodt and
search for the name of the field that shows up in the header in a plain
text editor and pay attention,looking especially for an extra set variable
tag around the content that appears on page 36.


I had looked at the .fodt file in a plain text editor and did find where the 
chapter name field had been set in the right hand editor up in the definition 
areas.  But when it came to trying to spot a change in tagging around the p36 / 
p37 interface in the body, I couldn't spot anything of help to explain my 
trouble.

What did impress me though was the terrible amount of stuff stored in the LO 
Writer file that is not relevant to the actual document. I was reminded of a 
problem I had when I upgraded the LO suite a few years' back. At that time, 
Writer seemed to think I was working in Spanish language when I have never used 
Spanish and had specifically selected the UK English version to download.

In the xml stuff of my problem file, near the top were two lines defining the 
language as Spanish. This must surely be a relic of some LO developer's work 
still hanging around in template definitions.

There were also several page definitions of 8.5" x 11" (US Letter size) and 
none of the page styles I used in that document were of that size.

A single sentence written in a single font style appears with three sets of 
 tags referring to 3 different text styles. When looking up to see what 
is the difference in these text style definitions, the only difference is in the 
officeooo:rsid number, whatever that is. The context makes me guess that it refers to 
different flavours of the English language.

I was hoping to pass on the file for others to look at but it has now been 
messed around with so much that it would be a waste of everybody's time. Thanks 
to all those who offered to help.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] defective field in header on one page

2020-08-02 Thread Philip Jackson


On 02/08/2020 13:24, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 01/08/2020 21:41, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2020-08-01 12:24, Philip Jackson wrote:

I'm carrying out a minor rework on a book I wrote in Writer some 3 years' ago. 
The problem which is stumping me is that the field which displays the chapter 
name in the header of the right hand pages is missing on page 37.
...
Anything I do to reapply this field or edit the field in page 37 appears in all 
the other right hand page headers as well.

I can't see anything in the style spec of p37 that differs from any of the 
other right hand pages. I've tried deleting this page and reinserting but the 
problem gets inherited by the new page.


Did you try just clearing all direct (non-styled) formatting from that chapter 
name?


A quick note to close the problem - I never managed to understand exactly what 
was wrong with the document so I took the straightforward way out. I made a new 
template and copied the body text over as plain unformatted text 
(Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V). After final reformatting, all is well with the new version.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] defective field in header on one page

2020-08-02 Thread Philip Jackson


On 01/08/2020 21:41, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2020-08-01 12:24, Philip Jackson wrote:

I'm carrying out a minor rework on a book I wrote in Writer some 3 years' ago. 
The problem which is stumping me is that the field which displays the chapter 
name in the header of the right hand pages is missing on page 37.
...
Anything I do to reapply this field or edit the field in page 37 appears in all 
the other right hand page headers as well.

I can't see anything in the style spec of p37 that differs from any of the 
other right hand pages. I've tried deleting this page and reinserting but the 
problem gets inherited by the new page.


Did you try just clearing all direct (non-styled) formatting from that chapter 
name?


Yes - that was a very early attempt. It didn't change anything.

Philip


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[libreoffice-users] defective field in header on one page

2020-08-01 Thread Philip Jackson


I'm carrying out a minor rework on a book I wrote in Writer some 3 years' ago. 
The problem which is stumping me is that the field which displays the chapter 
name in the header of the right hand pages is missing on page 37.

All other headers and footers are displaying their fields correctly. I have 
applied the field shading (View > Field Shadings) and I can see the shading.  
But it has shrunk down to the size of a single space on this page.  A right click 
on this space gives the option to edit fields so Writer is convinced that the 
field is there and produces the dialogue box with the field name, Chapter Name, 
which is correct.

Anything I do to reapply this field or edit the field in page 37 appears in all 
the other right hand page headers as well.

I can't see anything in the style spec of p37 that differs from any of the 
other right hand pages. I've tried deleting this page and reinserting but the 
problem gets inherited by the new page.

Does anyone know what I'm missing here?

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multiple newlines

2020-07-21 Thread Philip Jackson


On 21/07/2020 07:16, John Kaufmann wrote:


Now I understand the point of AutoCorrect Option "Combine single line paragraphs if length 
greater than 50%". But how do you "adjust the minimum length of such paragraphs in 
AutoCorrect Options - possibly to 0%"? (The fact that I don't find the setting suggests that I 
may have also missed something basic in your explanation.)


In the autocorrect options, highlight the option to combine single line 
paragraphs greater than 50% and then tap the edit button just underneath. There 
you can adjust your 50%.

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] disappearing graphic caused corruption in document in Writer

2020-07-11 Thread Philip Jackson


On 11/07/2020 03:37, Steve Edmonds wrote:

But I did have 4 draw objects disappear off page 97 or something and appear on 
the title page, but unable to be selected.
They showed in the navigator however, but couldn't be selected or deleted.

In the end I found deleting the page (97) they were supposed to be on deleted 
them from the title page, and when I did an undo of the deletion I got my page 
97 back and the draw objects no longer existed, also not showing in navigator.

So try deleting some chunks of the document until they no longer show in the 
PDF, then undo that deletion and check again, and cross your fingers.


Interesting.

Unfortunately, by the time I found the corruption in the pdf file, I could no 
longer remember which page I had been on when my graphic 'disappeared'. It was 
a graphic I had been applying manually to the base of each page.

My doc was only of 15 pages, not > 97, so after I found I could not get rid of 
the phantom, I copied and pasted progressively into a new document and tested by 
converting into pdf from time to time to make sure the phantom had not been 
transferred too.

Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] disappearing graphic caused corruption in document in Writer

2020-07-10 Thread Philip Jackson

On 09/07/2020 22:17, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2020-07-09 11:53, Philip Jackson wrote:

Using LO 6.3.5.2 Writer

While I was having the recent difficulty with getting graphics to stick in a
template, I prepared a short document copy/pasting header and footer graphics
into a Writer document as I went along.

During this work, there was a moment when adjusting the position of a footer
graphic on the page, the graphic disappeared completely. I had no idea why or
where it had gone and just supposed I had slipped and clicked in a wrong place.

When the document was finished, I exported to pdf to check that the hyperlinks
in the footer graphics were working as they should. To my surprise, I found in
the pdf, right in the centre of a single page, an upside down hyperlink that
also worked ok. It was a text box from the graphic I had lost.

This corruption was not visible in the Writer odt document, only in the pdf.
Deleting the page only made the corruption appear on the next one. Being
invisible in Writer, I couldn't find any way to remove it.

If deleting a page "only made the corruption appear on the next" page; that suggest
corruption linked with header or footer. Did you try changing Page style (Insert > More Breaks
> Manual Break > Page Break, Style) before deleting the page with corruption?

The page style I was using had both header and footer OFF ( at least, not
selected ON). But I did just try your idea of changing the page style just
before the corrupted page. The new page inherited the corruption but only as
long as it stayed in that place in the document. If I moved the new page down
with the navigator, then the corruption did not move with the page. Suggests
the corruption is in a fixed spot in the document.

Were the elements not at all visible in Navigator? Did you try examining in an
XML editor? (First save the file in FODT (Flat ODT) format or unzip the ODT
file to examine content.xml.)

Nothing visible in the Navigator.

Yes, following your suggestion, I've had a look in an xml text editor both flat
ODT and content.xml and I can't see the corruption. I'm not saying it isn't
there but life moves on and this cannot absorb more time.

Regards,

Philip

Re: [libreoffice-users] Page number field in Writer

2020-07-09 Thread Philip Jackson

Hi Regina,

On 09/07/2020 23:21, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Philip,

Philip Jackson schrieb am 09-Jul-20 um 22:37:

I have the page number field in the footer of my template. This template will
be used for a series of small documents to be issued in pdf form. My intention
is to use Writer to export to pdf and then use pdf-shuffler or similar to
append a first page as title page without any page number and prepared in
different software.

Why not use Writer for the first page?

Because I wanted to use an image with title text using a web font which I don't
have locally. So I prepared the title page at an online site.

In anticipation , I edited the page no. field to have an offset of 1 so that my
page numbering in Writer would start at 2.

Thank you for the info on 'Offset'. I reset it back to 0 so that removes that
part of the problem.

Then I tried to follow what you suggested but the result was strange because I thought
that the tab "Text Flow" was arrived at by editing the paragraph style which
is in this case an H1 heading. Of course that numbered every page which started with an
H1 heading to 2. So I had lots of page 2's in the doc. :-) :-)

I had never realised after years of working with Writer, that an individual
paragraph could have its properties modified by arriving at the 'Text Flow' tab
through the sidebar Properties > paragraph section. Once I realised that that
was what you meant, it all turned out well and the whole document now starts at
page 2 and numbers correctly to the end.

Thanks and best regards,
Philip

[libreoffice-users] Page number field in Writer

2020-07-09 Thread Philip Jackson


I have the page number field in the footer of my template. This template will 
be used for a series of small documents to be issued in pdf form. My intention 
is to use Writer to export to pdf and then use pdf-shuffler or similar to 
append a first page as title page without any page number and prepared in 
different software.

In anticipation , I edited the page no. field to have an offset of 1 so that my 
page numbering in Writer would start at 2.

Tests show that this works nicely with one exception. The last page doesn't 
show a number until I force a page break. This means that I have an unwanted 
empty last page which I can always remove from the pdf with pdf-shuffler.

If the offset is set to 0 (the default), the last page displays a number as 
soon as it is generated.

Is there some other manipulation I can make in LO Writer to make the page no. 
show on the last page as soon as it is generated within Writer when the offset 
is set to 1 ?

Philip


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[libreoffice-users] disappearing graphic caused corruption in document in Writer

2020-07-09 Thread Philip Jackson


Using LO 6.3.5.2 Writer

While I was having the recent difficulty with getting graphics to stick in a 
template, I prepared a short document copy/pasting header and footer graphics 
into a Writer document as I went along.

During this work, there was a moment when adjusting the position of a footer 
graphic on the page, the graphic disappeared completely. I had no idea why or 
where it had gone and just supposed I had slipped and clicked in a wrong place.

When the document was finished, I exported to pdf to check that the hyperlinks 
in the footer graphics were working as they should. To my surprise, I found in 
the pdf, right in the centre of a single page, an upside down hyperlink that 
also worked ok. It was a text box from the graphic I had lost.

This corruption was not visible in the Writer odt document, only in the pdf. 
Deleting the page only made the corruption appear on the  next one. Being 
invisible in Writer, I couldn't find any way to remove it.

My workaround was to prepare a new document and copy /paste the corrupted one 
into the new with frequent checks to make sure the corruption didn't get copied 
over.

Has anyone come across this sort of effect? Is there a way to get such a 
graphic element to be visible in Writer?

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to include a graphic element as part of a page definition in LO Writer?

2020-07-09 Thread Philip Jackson


Hi Regina,

On 08/07/2020 15:15, Regina Henschel wrote:

Philip Jackson schrieb am 08-Jul-20 um 14:59:

Using Writer 6.3.5.2

I drew a colour filled polygon at the top of a page where the header would 
normally be. I saved this as a template and then went to use it for a new 
document.

The new document had the graphic on the first page but not on subsequent pages. 
Clearly, the graphic element did not form part of the page description and I 
cannot find a way to make it stick so all new pages with that template 
automatically include the graphic.

Does anyone have suggestions for how this could be achieved in Writer other 
than by the hard labour method of copy and pasting the element to each  new 
page?


You need to enable the header and then anchor the graphic to the paragraph in 
the header. It is not necessary that this paragraph has any content

Thank you for the reply. I could not succeed to get the existing graphic to 
anchor inside the header and after lots of attempts, I gave up. I remade the 
graphic inside the header and even that had its problems. If I slipped slightly 
outside the header space, the graphic would reanchor to the body paragraph.

I eventually got there and did the footer too so all is working nicely.

Philip

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