Re: getting out of bridge mode
On Wed, 22 May 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: Hard reset did the trick. Apparently power cycling does not do a hard reset. Bridge mode is gone and I can login. Actually there was still a problem. Even though Wifi was back on, the router was still not connecting to the Midco-tivo. Made no sense to me, so I finally called tech support. Turns out, Midco-tivo does not use Wifi, it uses Moca. Tech suport turned it on, but still no go, so she scheduled a technician to come over. Turns out, tech support had not turned on Moca. I think the router might have lied to her about that. The technician did get Moca turned back on and all was right with that part of the world. Of course, had I known or suspected Moca was the issue, I'd have tried to turn it on myself. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: getting out of bridge mode
Hard reset did the trick. Apparently power cycling does not do a hard reset. Bridge mode is gone and I can login. Thanks folks. Time for a nap. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: getting out of bridge mode
On Wed, 22 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/21/24 11:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: You probably need your ISP to do that. Once it's in bridge mode, it's basically invisible. Whatever device is connected to it has a direct internet connection now. You might be able to access it if you can figure out the IP address. Do you remember what its IP address was before it went to bridge mode? If so, you can try setting the attached device to a static IP address in the same range and try to connect. 192.168.0.1 gets me to the router login page. Try reloading the page without cache to make sure you actually are there. ctrl-shift-R for firefox. Did that. It timed out. ping 8.8.8.8 still works. I just cannot login any more. I have logged in before. My expectation is that I can get it out of bridge mode if I can login. The attached device is a Midco-supplied Tivo. How is that attached? How is your computer connected? My computer is connected to the router by an ethernet cable. The Tivo was connected to the router by Wifi. Even if a long enough cable were immediately available, 'Twould be a major tripping hazard. I'd rather learn to live without bridge mode than with it. I don't understand where the Tivo came in. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods-- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: getting out of bridge mode
On Tue, 21 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: You probably need your ISP to do that. Once it's in bridge mode, it's basically invisible. Whatever device is connected to it has a direct internet connection now. You might be able to access it if you can figure out the IP address. Do you remember what its IP address was before it went to bridge mode? If so, you can try setting the attached device to a static IP address in the same range and try to connect. 192.168.0.1 gets me to the router login page. I just cannot login any more. I have logged in before. My expectation is that I can get it out of bridge mode if I can login. The attached device is a Midco-supplied Tivo. I think I could get it to tell me its IP address, but I suspect it wouldn't matter, as I am not trying to connect my PC to the Tivo. Also the cable from my office to the Tivo in the living room would be a major tripping hazard. How do I figure out why I cannot login? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
getting out of bridge mode
I'm running F38 with an Arris router provided by Midcontinent. The connection is by ethernet cable. Somehow the router got into bridge mode which turns off wifi. I've tried to login to turn off bridge mode. No go. I eventually get a popup saying the operation timed out. After dismissing the popup, I get another popup saying that the reason was that the router connection was lost. ping 8.8.8.8 succeeds. How do I figure out what is going on? What do I do about it? Power cycling has not helped. How many young goats do I need? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Live USB extra space
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with? If you are really makking the spin yourself, you should be able to put anything you want on it. I infer that you are actually copying a .iso file to a USB stick. I have on occasion installed a Fedora system onto an SD card sitting in a USB SD card reader/writer. Do the install. Update. Add stuff you want. Hand it to customer. You might want to make /bin /usr/bin and some other directories and their files unwriteable. Another possibility. IIRC a .iso file will boot from a partition. Give the flash device two partitions. Make the first partition a copy of the .iso file. In the other partition, put a bunch of .rpm's and a script that the customer can click on. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Tim via users wrote: Tim: (re xeyes) My guess would be that something monitoring mouse movements when those mouse movements could be related to another app is considered insecure. Well, *I* would consider it insecure if any app could see what I was doing with the mouse at any time. Michael Hennebry: Not obvious. Presumably most GUIs would need to monitor the mouse. Presumably most GUIs would be started by the owner of the mouse. If xeyes is not allowed, presumably gnome-screenshot --include-pointer is not allowed either. Is it? If the issue is looking outside one's window, presumably gnome-screenshot is not allowed at all. I'm thinking more in principle than specifics... If xeyes could do it, so could something else, so one might forbid the practice in general. I got that. If a nefarious program can impersonate the mouse owner, said owner already has problems. I suppose the same would apply to keyboard owners. It's one thing to observe the mouse has moved, to nudge the screensaver timer, for instance. But it's another thing to track the movements precisely. Does wayland allow it? Tangentially related, nefarious keylogging springs to mind. If only one thing at a time could monitor what you type, and nothing else could pretend to be a keyboard and pass them through, software key loggers would be harder to implement. Your key entries only going into what you intend them to. Something that tried to intercept them would apparently stop the keyboard from working - your typing wouldn't appear where you expected it to, as you typed. Of course that would break global hotkeys, and on-screen keyboards. Ideas about security always seem to mess up something else. SELinux is like that. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora 40 is available
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2024-04-26 at 08:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: as far as xz, for F40, the affected version was only in updates- testing Thanks. Also wondering how far back the breach went. I remember reading that the person had being playing the long game about doing this. They spent a long time setting it up, but the actual breach wasn't introduced until very recently, and IIRC was caught before it made it to a stable release. How was it caught? If it's what I read about recently, 'twas a bit of a fluke. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods-- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2024-04-25 at 16:00 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'll bite: Wassa matter with xeyes? My guess would be that something monitoring mouse movements when those mouse movements could be related to another app is considered insecure. Well, *I* would consider it insecure if any app could see what I was doing with the mouse at any time. Not obvious. Presumably most GUIs would need to monitor the mouse. Presumably most GUIs would be started by the owner of the mouse. If xeyes is not allowed, presumably gnome-screenshot --include-pointer is not allowed either. If the issue is looking outside one's window, presumably gnome-screenshot is not allowed at all. e.g. On screen keyboards for password entry. Or those /draw a shape/ with your mouse instead of typing a password. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024, George N. White III wrote: There are things Wayland won't permit (xeyes), and things that are yet to implemented. The latter may not get much attention if they aren't I'll bite: Wassa matter with xeyes? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: The efi partition probably needs to be bigger than that, but it also has to be mounted at /boot/efi as indicated. Ah! With custom partitioning, anaconda needs to be explicitly told the EFI partition is the EFI partition. As I should have mentioned earlier, it works now. I promptly took it on the road and forgot to bring my password list. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: The efi partition probably needs to be bigger than that, but it also has to be mounted at /boot/efi as indicated. Ah! With custom partitioning, anaconda needs to be explicitly told the EFI partition is the EFI partition. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Failed to find a suitable stage1 device
While trying to install from Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39-1.5.iso , I got the following: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device: EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type None; EFI System Partition cannot be of type NTFS; EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type ext4.; EFI System partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; ... repetition I am not happy. The target is an HP EliteBook (not EliteDesk). The partition editing was done with Windows 10, which is still present. According to Anaconda: sda1 partition efi 100 MiB sda2 partition 16 MiB sda3 partition ntfs 220.83 GiB sda4 partition ext4 97.66 GiB slash / sda5 partition ext4 97.66 GiB home /home sda6 partition ext4 19.53 GiB var /var free space free space 517.58 GiB sda7 partition ntfs 509 MiB sda3, sda5 and sda6 exist because I used the Windows 10 tool. I left formating up to anaconda. Anaconda has not yet formatted them. What is going on? How do I do the installation? I do not rmember my last pain-free install. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/25/24 08:21, Michael Hennebry wrote: Thanks folks. Disabling UEFI mode did the trick, though I do not understand why it was necessary. I thought that recent Fedora DVDs worked with both legacy and UEFI. The Fedora-WS-Live-39-1.5 DVD does have an EFI directory. I didn't get a grub menu until disabling UEFI. The DVD does work with both, so it's most likely an issue with the firmware on the system. Have you checked for firmware updates? Does it have an option to select an EFI file to boot from? I thought file selection was part of grub. Didn't get to grub until I disabled UEFI. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 11:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1 What's that about? My guess is that nvm stands for non-volatile memory. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, Thomas Cameron wrote: Fedora can install on either legacy BIOS mode or modern UEFI. But when it installs on UEFI systems, it creates a special partition mounted on /boot/efi. If you boot a system which was installed in BIOS mode in UEFI mode, it doesn't see that partition and won't boot. To be clear: I wasn't trying to boot the hard drive or install to it. I was just trying to boot the DVD. Eventually I succeeded by disabling UEFI. The need surprised me. To boot from the hard drive, I had to re-enable UEFI. If you want to run Fedora in UEFI mode, I am relatively certain you have to reinstall (but I could absolutely be wrong). When I got a machine which supported UEFI, I initially turned off UEFI and Secure Boot because I'd heard horror stories about them with Linux. When I changed it to UEFI, I couldn't access my Linux installation. But since I had a backup of my home directory on another machine, I just nuked it and reinstalled, then restored my home directory. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
Thanks folks. Disabling UEFI mode did the trick, though I do not understand why it was necessary. I thought that recent Fedora DVDs worked with both legacy and UEFI. The Fedora-WS-Live-39-1.5 DVD does have an EFI directory. I didn't get a grub menu until disabling UEFI. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
I've been trying to get an HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt to boot from dvd. So far no luck. I've managed to get DVD listed as the first boot entry for both UEFI and legacy. The machine seems to try and fail. The error messages go by rather fast. I think I've seem things like "invalid header" and "no such file", but am not as sure as I'd like to be. Most recently I tried and failed with Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39.1.5.iso Any idea what I should try next? My late girlfriend used it. I remember her password, which is why she is not on the sudo list. I do not remember either the root password or my own. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How to discover latex fonts
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, Andras Simon wrote:
This is about making \fontsize work, not the warnings, which some
other google hits suggest you can ignore. And you don't need to
\usepackage{fontspec} for \fontsize to work. (But maybe you're using
it for something else.)
I was trying to change the font because the default
font did not let me have a 14 pt. font size.
I inferred that it was a bitmap font or something
else that did not allow arbitrary font sizes.
Though I still do not know how to discover what I have,
I have something that works.
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Re: How to discover latex fonts
Antykwa ToruÅska Condensed is at
https://tug.org/FontCatalogue/antykwatorunskacondensed/ .
Somehow I discovered that I needed
texlive-antt-10:svn18651.2.08-65.fc38.noarch to use package anttor ,
so I installed it with dnf.
No go:
LaTeX Info: Font shape T1/anttc/mx/n has incorrect series value `mx'.
It should not contain an `m'! Please correct it.
Found on input line 32.
Likewise for lines 33..35 .
I have 17 lines:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[condensed,math]{anttor}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\fontsize{140pt}{210pt}\selectfont
\begin{document}
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
Hello world!
\end{document}
I got output, but the \fontsize definitely did not take.
What now?
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How to discover latex fonts
Whenever I run latex with anything other than the default font, whatever that is, I get a font not found message. How do I discover what fonts latex can use and the names and methods to invoke them? Search lead me to fc-list, but it did not help. It listed a bunch of files, none of which were in the latex fonts directory. If latex can use them, I know not how. Yes, I did find the latex fonts directory, but have no idea how to translate the file names into latex. I want 14 point type, so I'm pretty sure I need a scalable font. How young does the goat have to be? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: double sided printing
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/17/24 01:32, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, How do I set up my new Brother HL-L2300D for two sided printing? -T CUPS driver ays is has two sides and puts it as "sides=one-sided" for the default. But I can find anywhere in my print properties of my programs to put it at two sides. https://imgur.com/LzSb4Z7.png If you click on administration, you should be able to find "Set Default Options". That is how it works for my HL-L2360D . -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Mon, 27 Nov 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: Hardware issues do not typically leave the machine up (except for intel/amd throttling down when getting hot, but even that will crash if it gets bad enough).install kernel-tools and run turbostat it will show the cpu freqs and cpu temps. My CPU is Intel. I'll try kernel-tools. Today is the first time firefox froze on me since leaving turbostat running. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Modern Dual-Boot Setup Prcoedure (Dell XPS)
On Thu, 7 Dec 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Usually there's a key you can press to get a boot selection menu so you can one-time boot from the USB without having to change the boot order. In my experiencem, external drives come before internal drives anyway. I've been bitten by this. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: printer only prints in flip mode
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, Neal Becker wrote: I have a similar-sounding brother laserprinter. I hate to say it, but I found the available open-source driver didn't produce correct output with mine, I had to use the proprietary driver from brother: hll2395dwpdrv-4.0.0-1.i386.rpm Nope. Didn't work either. Brother's driver made it stop printing altogether, apparently put it in the state noted in my "pretends to print" thread. Even though I had the brlaser package installed, I decided to try the source version. I unplugged the printer, updated the repository I already had, and built according to instructions. For install, I did not directly use sudo. Instead I changed the ownership of the target directories and changed them back after installation. After reconnecting the printer, still no go, not with the orginal name, nor with the fedora-generated name. Just for grins, I deleted both printers and put one back. Now it prints correctly. I hate these mighty struggles, but at least I won this one. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: printer only prints in flip mode
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:04?AM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: My Brother HL-L2360DW B laser printer is only printing in flip mode, i.e., when it prints 8.5x11 two-sided portrait, to read the back page, one must flip it vertically by a short side, rather that horizontally by a long edge. I think there have been changes to the PPD options for this. How are you connecting the printer -- wifi or USB? USB When I first tried to install the printer, there was no option for this model. The defaults for the printer is set to job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=two-sided-long-edge I've restarted CUPS on F38. The problem occurs with both gedit and vim. In the case of gedit, page setup tells me I've set it up correctly, but it still does the wrong thing. Is this a new install or was the printer working under Fedora in the past? In worked under F35. That printer claims to support AirPrint, so should work with IPP Everywhere, but there are also legacy CUPS PPD files I have a separately downloaded brother-HLL2360D-cups-en.ppd from 2020. Apparently it did not work. With F35, I had to download and build some code, brlaser, to make it work. With F38, I am using package printer-driver-brlaser.x86_64 from updates. Said package apparently defined "Model" Brother HL-L2360D series, using brlaser v6 (en) . The "Model" listed as current lacks the (en) . See: <https://www.pwg.org/index.html> See: <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/CUPS/Printer-specific_problems> Not seeing a lot info information on either site. The latter seems to link to the source that was rpm'ed to make printer-driver-brlaser.x86_64 . Despite the name, I do not see memtion of specific problems. I really hate the poke it and see what happens method of repair, but I might be reduced to it. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
printer only prints in flip mode
My Brother HL-L2360DW B laser printer is only printing in flip mode, i.e., when it prints 8.5x11 two-sided portrait, to read the back page, one must flip it vertically by a short side, rather that horizontally by a long edge. The defaults for the printer is set to job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=two-sided-long-edge I've restarted CUPS on F38. The problem occurs with both gedit and vim. In the case of gedit, page setup tells me I've set it up correctly, but it still does the wrong thing. Any ideas on what is wrong, how I can fix it or how I can find out? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: Hardware issues do not typically leave the machine up (except for intel/amd throttling down when getting hot, but even that will crash if it gets bad enough).install kernel-tools and run turbostat it will show the cpu freqs and cpu temps. My CPU is Intel. I'll try kernel-tools. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: conflict with ffmpeg
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Tom Horsley wrote: This is fedora putting their own lame bits of ffmpeg in fedora. This works for me: dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing that swaps out the lame fedora stuff and gets everything from rpmfusion. Thanks. I have ffmpeg now. Any idea what lame bits? As a rule, would it be a good idea to give rpmfusion precedence over fedora? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
chromium is freezing on me now, too. journalctl -r -g romium does not reveal any errors or warnings. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can get used to it." -- Gordon Dickson on H.P. Lovecraft's handwriting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
conflict with ffmpeg
More joy of a recent upgrade. Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:05 ago on Fri 24 Nov 2023 07:29:43 PM CST. Error: Problem: problem with installed package libswscale-free-6.0-5.fc38.x86_64 - package ffmpeg-libs-6.0-6.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free conflicts with libswscale-free provided by libswscale-free-6.0-5.fc38.x86_64 from @System - package ffmpeg-libs-6.0-6.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free conflicts with libswscale-free provided by libswscale-free-6.0-2.fc38.x86_64 from fedora - package ffmpeg-libs-6.0-6.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free conflicts with libswscale-free provided by libswscale-free-6.0.1-1.fc38.x86_64 from updates - package ffmpeg-6.0-6.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free requires ffmpeg-libs(x86-64) = 6.0-6.fc38, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests - package ffmpeg-6.0.1-2.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free-updates requires ffmpeg-libs(x86-64) = 6.0.1-2.fc38, but none of the providers can be installed - package ffmpeg-libs-6.0.1-2.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free-updates conflicts with libswscale-free provided by libswscale-free-6.0-5.fc38.x86_64 from @System - package ffmpeg-libs-6.0.1-2.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free-updates conflicts with libswscale-free provided by libswscale-free-6.0-2.fc38.x86_64 from fedora - package ffmpeg-libs-6.0.1-2.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-free-updates conflicts with libswscale-free provided by libswscale-free-6.0.1-1.fc38.x86_64 from updates (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting packages or '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) [hennebry@fedora ~]$ --allowerasing would seem to be the only suggestion likely to result in a functional ffmpeg, but I do not kow what damage that would cause. Suggestions? I was hoping for a --dry-run or some such option, but no such luck. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: chromium will not start
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: A profile (for a browser) is where you bookmarks/cookies/cache and other associated stuff needed exist. You can typically (on most browsers) have more than one profile. If you aren't running chromium currently then you delete the files. You might do a "ps -elf | grep -i chromium" and make sure you only see the grep. After removing all thing chromium under my home directory, I got the authentication required message. Of course, it didn't like any password I had, but it ran after I gave up and clicked on cancel. Chromium sure has some crappy code in it. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: chromium will not start
OOn Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: It means likely it crashed while it had the profile locked and the program is too stupid to reclaim the lost lock. So while did it fail the first time? That seems to be a really common bug in a lot of programs. They test the lock/unlock and make sure other separate copies won't use the profile when another process is using it, but developers all think What's a profile and how do I unlock it> their program won't crash so there is no way to lose a lock. and so they forget to handle the program crashing with the profile being locked and lose the lock. And there are cases that lock reclaim can fail on if the lock reclaim process suspects that the holder is not the same host. The hostname referenced is probably another name for your IP address of your workstation. try a dig and or a ping name and see if it comes back as your IP address hennebry@2001-48F8-3004-2CE-0-0-0-284-dynamic ~]$ nslookup localhost-live.midcoip.net Server: 127.0.0.53 Address:127.0.0.53#53 ** server can't find localhost-live.midcoip.net: NXDOMAIN I realize 127.0.0.1 is my computer, but I'm not clear on how 127.0.053 and 127.0.0.53#53 are used. Best guess is do a find ~/ -iname "*lock*" -lsand see if there is a file that looks like a lock. I got 36 lock files all with hromi in the name. 0 Nov 24 14:35 ./.config/chromium/Default/Local\ Storage/leveldb/LOCK 0 Nov 24 14:35 ./.config/chromium/Default/Sync\ Data/LevelDB/LOCK 0 Nov 24 14:35 ./.config/chromium/Default/discounts_db/LOCK And it may be that the first lock in my list has a name (on yours) that confuses the lock reclaim. Possibly the ip address does not resolve to the same name both forward and reverse, and/or it resolves to several different names/ips. How do I unlock? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: chromium will not start
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Restart you computer and try again. Let us know shutdown /r /f /t 00 Did that. Didn't help. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm saying it wasn't a memory thing. Here are some example lines that I saw. They were all together at the time that firefox was stuck. rtkit-daemon[1090]: Successfully made thread 7825 of process 6769 (/usr/lib64/firefox/firefox) owned by '1000' RT at priority 10. firefox.desktop[2327]: [Parent 2327, Main Thread] WARNING: g_dbus_connection_unregister_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed: 'glib warning', file /builddir/build/BUILD/firefox-120.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:187 firefox[2327]: g_dbus_connection_unregister_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed firefox.desktop[2327]: [Parent 2327, Main Thread] WARNING: Error releasing name org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.firefox.instance2327: Timeout was reached: 'glib warning', file /builddir/build/BUILD/firefox-120.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:187 I got eleven of those yesterday. file /builddir/build/BUILD/firefox-119.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:167 firefox[2327]: Error releasing name org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.firefox.instance2327: Timeout was reached firefox.desktop[2327]: [Parent 2327, Main Thread] WARNING: Create input context failed: Timeout was reached.: 'glib warning', file /builddir/build/BUILD/firefox-120.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:187 firefox[2327]: Create input context failed: Timeout was reached. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal? I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts. journalctl and then what? I used "journalctl -r" which will display lines reversed starting from the most recent. Or you can run "journalctl -b" and press "G" to go to the end. It uses the same navigation keys as "less". I used journalctl -r -g irefox Rather a lot of ... [Child 287536, MediaDecoderStateMachine #1] WARNING: Decoder=7fde2015e400 Decode error:... I suspect they relate to a video I was trying to watch. Did not see anything that seemed to be a memory thing. Time for supper. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy-- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal? I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts. journalctl and then what? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
chromium will not start
I recently installed the chromium browser on F38. It won't start. At least it won't stay started very long. When I start it from the command line, I get this: $ chromium-browser [297210:297210:1123/181637.109041:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(353)] The profile appears to be in use by another Chromium process (2215) on another computer (localhost-live.midcoip.net). Chromium has locked the profile so that it doesn't get corrupted. If you are sure no other processes are using this profile, you can unlock the profile and relaunch Chromium. [297210:297210:1123/181637.109237:ERROR:message_box_dialog.cc(146)] Unable to show a dialog outside the UI thread message loop: Chromium - The profile appears to be in use by another Chromium process (2215) on another computer (localhost-live.midcoip.net). Chromium has locked the profile so that it doesn't get corrupted. If you are sure no other processes are using this profile, you can unlock the profile and relaunch Chromium. I don't even know what that means. What profile? What is Midcontinent doing with it? How? Why is a "profile" even involved? Who is making money off my "profile"? How? I have no idea how I would unlock my "profile". I suppose the claim will be made that it is for security. Grrr. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for something. How do I discover what? I would investigate the virtual memory system. That's based on your reply to Roger Heflin, and the 8GB of RAM and no swap file. Maybe You mean this: Michael Hennebry wrote (some whitespace deleted): $ free -h totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.7Gi 4.1Gi 882Mi 572Mi 2.7Gi 2.7Gi Swap: 7.7Gi98Mi 7.6Gi $ I have no swap partition. ? I'd have thought 882Mi free and 2.7Gi available would be good. BTW I have a lot of tabs, but not a lot of videos. Mostly my tabs are things to read. start with `vm.overcommit_memory = 2` in `/etc/sysctl.conf`. The 2 says, "say no if we don't have the memory". From the persistence of the belief that I am running out of memory, I infer one of two scenarios is assumed: 1: firefox is waiting on memory is was told it has, but might never get. 2: firefox has been told memory is unavailable, but does not do anything sensible with that information. The output from free would seem to preclude both scenarios. What is the state of a process that is waiting on commited, but unavailable, memory? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for something. How do I discover what? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgrade to F39: Disk Requirements: At least 5633 MB more space needed on the / filesystem.
On Wed, 8 Nov 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Paul Smith wrote: # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /dev tmpfs 16G 194M 16G 2% /dev/shm tmpfs6.3G 1.7M 6.3G 1% /run /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 69G 68G 0 100% / tmpfs 16G 36M 16G 1% /tmp /dev/sda1974M 280M 627M 31% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 794G 397G 357G 53% /home The 357G available is a lot more than the less than 6G needed. What am I missing? Pardon me. I seem to have left my head in my other hat. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgrade to F39: Disk Requirements: At least 5633 MB more space needed on the / filesystem.
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Paul Smith wrote: # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /dev tmpfs 16G 194M 16G 2% /dev/shm tmpfs6.3G 1.7M 6.3G 1% /run /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 69G 68G 0 100% / tmpfs 16G 36M 16G 1% /tmp /dev/sda1974M 280M 627M 31% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 794G 397G 357G 53% /home The 357G available is a lot more than the less than 6G needed. What am I missing? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: default printer
On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve? Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with no printer specified?!! For sure, lp and lpr use the default printer if not told otherwise. I think that vim will only use the default printer, but configuration might be possible. Anyone know for sure? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/03/2023 11:50 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: 210 linkedin.com 146 yahoo.com 88 yahoo.net 63 linkedin.com Why do you have both an extension and a tab for linkedin.com, and extensions for both yahoo.com and yahoo.net? I have more than one linkedin tab. As for yahoo.com and yahoo.net, I have no idea. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: How much ram does the machine firefox is running on have? 8 G $ free -h totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.7Gi 4.1Gi 882Mi 572Mi 2.7Gi 2.7Gi Swap: 7.7Gi98Mi 7.6Gi $ I have no swap partition. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: here are the top memory entries from about:processes: 872firefox 555weather.com 254imasdk.googleapis.com 210linkedin.com 204Extensions 146yahoo.com 132avrfreaks.net 116googlesyndication.com 88yahoo.net 85hackerrank.com 63linkedin.com 37github.com I note weather.com, as was previously suggested as a possible miscreant. Replacing weather.com with start.fedoraproject.com did not seem to help. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
here are the top memory entries from about:processes: 872firefox 555weather.com 254imasdk.googleapis.com 210linkedin.com 204Extensions 146yahoo.com 132avrfreaks.net 116googlesyndication.com 88yahoo.net 85hackerrank.com 63linkedin.com 37github.com I note weather.com, as was previously suggested as a possible miscreant. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: type this In the address bar: about:performance I cannot get to about:performance . 'Tis not in the about:about list. When I type about:performance , I get about:memory . click on the memory column and sort by biggest first. see what specific web pages are using excessive ram (usually close to 1gb or more). click on the tab: entryh that sucks and a X will appear on the far right, and click the X and the specific tab gets killed.. weather.com and reddit.com are the ones that typically misbehave for me. I think firefox needs a simple feature that basically says if any tab uses X kill/restart it. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 02:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: With firefox frozen. And with it closed? What I'm trying to find out is how much of that is stuff Firefox needs to keep between sessions and how much of it is session specific. 885M with firefox closed. BTW I've not the when the not responding message appears, I cannot even raise the window, but when the message is gone, I can. Usually I cannot even click on the wait option, not that it matters. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 02:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: With firefox frozen. And with it closed? What I'm trying to find out is how much of that is stuff Firefox needs to keep between sessions and how much of it is session specific. I'll get back to you on that, after I get the requested memory data. about:performances seems to be treate as an alias for about:processes . -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 01:55 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7 32G 23G 7.1G 76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory. If so, that may be your problem. Consider installing Bleachbit and letting it clean all of the cruft out. According to du, ~/.mozilla contains 887M . Is that with Firefox running or closed? In either case, my suggestion of Bleachbit still stands. With firefox frozen. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7 32G 23G 7.1G 76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory. If so, that may be your problem. Consider installing Bleachbit and letting it clean all of the cruft out. According to du, ~/.mozilla contains 887M . -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firefox keeps freezing on me
Thank you Joe Z, Tim and Richard E. Firefox just starting freezing. [hennebry@fedora ~]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on devtmpfs4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /dev tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 1.6G 1.7M 1.6G 1% /run /dev/sda331G 7.1G 23G 25% / tmpfs 3.9G 288K 3.9G 1% /tmp /dev/sda6 5.9G 4.4G 1.2G 80% /var /dev/sda732G 23G 7.1G 76% /home /dev/sdb130G 8.1G 20G 30% /run/media/hennebry/data3 tmpfs 785M 11M 774M 2% /run/user/1000 [hennebry@fedora ~]$ free -h totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.7Gi 2.9Gi 2.5Gi 472Mi 2.3Gi 4.0Gi Swap: 7.7Gi93Mi 7.6Gi Note that I do not have disk swap. I expect the above is at least partly a computation involving zswap. about:performance takes me to about:processes . Main, google and yahoo mail tabs seem to be taking the most CPU and memory, 20% 618MB, 0.6% 411MG and 0.18% 159MB . The latter two occasionally flicker to about 20% CPU. No smoking gun. Memory report: Main Process (pid 460754) Explicit Allocations 1,224.93 MB (100.0%) -- explicit ... 682.46 MB (100682.46 MB (100.0%) -- gfx ... 1,148.72 MB (100.0%) -- heap-committed 3.47 MB (100.0%) -- images ... 227 (100.0%) -- ipc-channels ... 635 (100.0%) -- ipc-channels-peak ... 2 (100.0%) -- js-helper-threads ... 101.68 MB (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime ... 52.69 MB (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime-gc-heap-committed ... 37 (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime-realms ... 103 (100.0%) -- message-manager ... 2,581 (100.0%) -- observer-service ... 894 (100.0%) -- observer-service-suspect ... 1,145 (100.0%) -- preference-service ... 0 (100.0%) -- queued-ipc-messages ... 0.14 MB (100.0%) -- shared-string-bundles 41.88 MB (100.0%) ++ window-objects ... Apparently there is a tree for each tab. I have a lot of tabs. This took me about an hour. When firefox is frozen, I cannot scroll it nor copy from it. I have to wait for a good second. Firefox does not take gnome with it. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
firefox keeps freezing on me
My firefox on F38 freezes a lot. I get "Firefox" is not responding a lot. At one time, I thought it was because of too many windows and tabs open. I closed several windows. Shutting it down and bringing it back up often helped, but not necessarily for very long. According to top, firefox freezes even when the load average is less than two, most of swap is free and neither firefox nor its minions are near the top of top. My new suspicion is that it waits for something that does not happen often enough. How do I diagnose this? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Robert Nichols wrote: On 11/1/23 06:14, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:31?PM Robert Nichols wrote: How is that supposed to work for printers that have no network capability? IPP over USB https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems#Driverless_printing_(USB) https://www.usb.org/document-library/ipp-protocol-10 And, for printers that are not USB and do not support IPP? My guess is that many of the ancients would be out of luck. That said, writing interface layers would certainly be possible. Each type of printer would need a distinct interface. The layer would require expertise in both CUPS and the printer type. If any got written, I'd expect one for printers that take postscript directly. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Clearly there is a driver involved. I think the term just means that no additional driver is required. Note that Microsoft recently announced that future versions of Windows (IIRC) would not support manufacturer- provided drivers, so there appears to be an industry move in this direction. So, if I wanted to use a printer, e.g. mine, that was not support out of the box, I would have to change the box, i.e. make a custom CUPS? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 12:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: CUPS wrote: Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. Then what? It wrote that after I installed a Brother HL-L2360DW using the printer-driver-brlaser-6.2.6-1.fc38.x86_64 package. It provided the Brother HL-L2360D series, using brlaser v6 (en) option under model. If CUPS rejects my printer before it runs out of ink, will I have another option? My Brother all-in-one (DCP-L2530DW) works without the proprietary drivers, using the "driverless" Avahi config option (i.e. DNSSD). I assume that's what the CUPS message is referring to. Not really sure what driverless means. I think DCP-L2530DW was one of the "model" options available without the package. Had to install a package to get mine. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated
CUPS wrote: Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. Then what? It wrote that after I installed a Brother HL-L2360DW using the printer-driver-brlaser-6.2.6-1.fc38.x86_64 package. It provided the Brother HL-L2360D series, using brlaser v6 (en) option under model. If CUPS rejects my printer before it runs out of ink, will I have another option? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/10/23 03:00, Michael Hennebry wrote: Since my second to most recent post, I tried gnome with X11. Got a useful error message: no H.264 decoder. Now, with X11, videos can play videos. Firefox can play videos with either wayland or X11. I am using the Nightly upstream version of Firefox on X11 with KDE (I tend not to use Wayland) and I can play videos from youtube and Netflix without Switching to X11 did the trick. I do not have hardware acceleration, but I can live with that. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
Since my second to most recent post, I tried gnome with X11. Got a useful error message: no H.264 decoder. Now, with X11, videos can play videos. Firefox can play videos with either wayland or X11. I did a sudo dnf install 'mesa-*' It went through, but without apparent effect. I also did a sudo dnf install'*nvidia*', but got a whole lot of conflicting requests: Error: Problem 1: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver - conflicting requests Problem 2: package nvidia-settings-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with nvidia-settings provided by nvidia-settings-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver - conflicting requests Problem 3: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-cuda-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver - conflicting requests Problem 4: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver - package akmod-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-3.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires nvidia-470xx-kmod-common >= 3:470.199.02, but none of the providers can be installed - package akmod-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires nvidia-kmod-common >= 3:535.113.01, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests Problem 5: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver - package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-power-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx(x86-64) = 3:470.199.02, but none of the providers can be installed - package nvidia-xconfig-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires xorg-x11-drv-nvidia >= 3:535.113.01, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests Problem 6: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver - package akmod-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-3.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires nvidia-470xx-kmod-common >= 3:470.199.02, but none of the providers can be installed - package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires xorg-x11-drv-nvidia(x86-64) = 3:535.113.01, but none of the providers can be installed - package kmod-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-3.fc38.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver requires akmod-nvidia-470xx = 3:470.199.02-3.fc38, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests I added some line breaks for legibility. On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: mesa is what provides opengl. Best guess is: mesa-dri-drivers, mesa-vdpau-drivers and mesa-va-drivers-freeworld that have video drivers, but also some other mesa pieces that provide opengl may need to be install (or installing the above may install those extra pieces). I have mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 mesa-vdpau-drivers.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 mesa-va-drivers.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 and lots of others. glxgears and glxinfo will tell you the opengl install state. glxgears will run on bot X11 and wayland. On wayland I have [hennebry@2001-48F8-3004-2CE-0-0-0-2723-dynamic ~]$ glxgears -info GL_RENDERER = llvmpipe (LLVM 16.0.6, 128 bits) GL_VERSION= 4.5 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 23.1.8 GL_VENDOR = Mesa The claimed frame rate is over 700. On X11, the renderer is i915 (chipset Q33) and the claimed frame rate just under 60. On both glxinfo claims 390 GLX Visuals and 840 GLXFBConfigs, all of which have None or Slow as a caveat. i915 reminds me: My monitor's native resolution is 1440x900. After installing F35, 'twas a mighty struggle to get anything other than 640x480. I do not recall details of the battle. On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:17?AM Michael Hennebry wrote: Can anyone play videos on F38? If so, how did you do it? Firefox in uncommunicative when it will not play a video.
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
Since my previous post, I tried gnome with X11. This time I got a useful message: no H.264 decoder. I installed the decoder. Videos will play videos on both wayland and X11. Firefox only on X11. On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: mesa is what provides opengl. Best guess is: mesa-dri-drivers, mesa-vdpau-drivers and mesa-va-drivers-freeworld that have video drivers, but also some other mesa pieces that provide opengl may need to be install (or installing the above may install those extra pieces). glxgears and glxinfo will tell you the opengl install state. This is the mesa stuff I have installed: $ sudo dnf list installed 'mesa-*' [sudo] password for hennebry: Installed Packages mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-filesystem.x86_6423.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-libEGL.x86_6423.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-libGL.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-libgbm.x86_6423.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-libglapi.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-libxatracker.x86_64 23.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-va-drivers.x86_6423.1.8-1.fc38 @updates mesa-vulkan-drivers.x86_6423.1.8-1.fc38 @updates $ gvim I note no vdpau. From lspci: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) Should I install vdpau? I'm not sure whether vdpau works with Intel graphics. glxinfo shows lots of visuals, all with None or Slow in the last column. Should I sudo dnf install 'mesa-*' ? On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:17?AM Michael Hennebry wrote: Can anyone play videos on F38? If so, how did you do it? Firefox in uncommunicative when it will not play a video. Videos says "cannot initialise OpenGL support". I'm late for supper. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
Can anyone play videos on F38? If so, how did you do it? Firefox in uncommunicative when it will not play a video. Videos says "cannot initialise OpenGL support". -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/07/2023 12:23 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: When I try to play a .avi file, Videos claims "Could not initialise OpenGL support". dnf was not a help. How do I get videos to work? Do you have rpmfusion installed? If not, you'll find instructions for installing/configuring both the free and non-free repos here: https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration I do now. Didn't help. Same error message. Still cannot find opengl. codec did not work either. As suggested here https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/installing-plugins-for-playing-movies-and-music/ , I installed gstreamer and lame stuff. Trying to do the group upgrade resulted in complaints about conflicting packages. Videso still gives me "cannot initialize OpenGL support" when I try to play any video. Any ideas? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the sun, happily entwined with others, and then someone comes along, cuts you open, and rips your guts out." -- Buffy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: As noted in another thread, I recently installed F38, retaining my /home partition. Firefox is also unpleasantly interesting. Firefox was and is set to restore on startup. There were a lot of pages to restore. They all came up with a single blank tab. Do I need to start from scratch? After a dnf update, that tabs all came back. Do not know why. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/07/2023 12:23 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: When I try to play a .avi file, Videos claims "Could not initialise OpenGL support". dnf was not a help. How do I get videos to work? Do you have rpmfusion installed? If not, you'll find instructions for installing/configuring both the free and non-free repos here: https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration I do now. Didn't help. Same error message. Still cannot find opengl. codec did not work either. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 10:19?AM Michael Hennebry wrote: What is a livecd to hard disk type install? There is usually an install-to-hard-disk icon someplace on the livecd desktop. That is what I did, though I used a DVD. Is there another way? I tried and failed to boot the .iso image from a partition on the hard drive. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/07/2023 12:11 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Booting an installer from a hard disk partition used to work, at least sometimes. I'd open a bugzilla against Anaconda, either as a bug or a feature request. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2242750 -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Mike Wright wrote: On 10/7/23 11:23, Michael Hennebry wrote: Firefox is also unpleasantly interesting. Firefox was and is set to restore on startup. There were a lot of pages to restore. They all came up with a single blank tab. Do I need to start from scratch? Have you tried Ctrl-Shift-T ? For me that sometimes opens a previous window with all its previous tabs intact; some windows I have to hover over and hit multiple ^Shft-T to restore the tabs in that window. Popups that I've moved off window come back as whole windows. Those I manually restore. Just did. No response. My suspicion is that there has been a file format change and that firefox can count windows, but that is all. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
As noted in another thread, I recently installed F38, retaining my /home partition. When I try to play a .avi file, Videos claims "Could not initialise OpenGL support". dnf was not a help. How do I get videos to work? Firefox is also unpleasantly interesting. Firefox was and is set to restore on startup. There were a lot of pages to restore. They all came up with a single blank tab. Do I need to start from scratch? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Oct 6, 2023, at 17:02, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: What does the /home directory/disk look like? (partition table, lvm setup (if lvm)?) sda1: 100 M Windows sda2: 100 M Id 83 sda3: 31.6 G / Id 83 sda5: 5.0 G holds an iso9660 image, won't boot, so settled for DVD sda6: 6.0 G /var Id 83 sda7: 31.7 G /home Id 83 Your sda5 is likely the issue. Anaconda ignores all disks with an iso9660 filesystem on it. Probably so they don?t get included when booted from a USB device with the LiveCD ISO dd?d to it. That was it!! Well and truly amazed am I. Bizarre that is. Booting an installer from a hard disk partition used to work, at least sometimes. Where do I go to complain about this? At the very least, it should be documented, instead of leaving the victim with a mystery to solve. For that matter, how did you find out? I have other issues now, but they should go into another thread. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: It is not unlikely that IDE mode is/was removed from the F38 installer.SATA started in 2005 and mostly replaced it by 2008 or so, so that makes the IDE software interface 15 years old. You might see if you can switch the mode to a different mode (AHCI would be the one that should be supported). Perusing the BIOS did not show me AHCI or IDE mode. You could also try installing it from the livecd, I have not done an install/anaconda DVD install in a long time, I have been doing livecd to hard disk type installs. That is what I thought I was doing. The image on the DVD is named Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-38-1.6.iso . Navigating fedora websites is so much fun. 'Twouldn't surprise me if I missed something. What is a livecd to hard disk type install? On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:18?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: What does "lspci | grep -i sata" show in the livecd? liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ lspci | grep -i sata >>sata.txt [liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ cat sata.txt 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) [liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ The first two data lines are from running F35. The last two data lines are from running live F38. They seem to be the same. And you don't have any bios/software raid enabled and have the disk set to AHCI if available in the bios? I'll try to check the BIOS. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: What does "lspci | grep -i sata" show in the livecd? liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ lspci | grep -i sata >>sata.txt [liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ cat sata.txt 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) [liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ The first two data lines are from running F35. The last two data lines are from running live F38. They seem to be the same. And you don't have any bios/software raid enabled and have the disk set to AHCI if available in the bios? I'll try to check the BIOS. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: What kind of device/controller are those filesystems on? They would have to be something weird for anaconda to not have the right driver. it is not a sdhc/mmc type card is it? 'Tis an internal Seagate model ST380815AS. 80e9 bytes. 7200 rpm. SATA. I omitted the /dev/'s from the device names: /dev/sda1 Clearly something had the right driver. It could show me my .jpg images. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: I am surprised that alt-tab does not switch to another app for you. I If it happens again, I'll try it. I'd forgotten all about it. Do not rmember the last time I used it. have used that to switch out of full screen applications and I would not expect firefox/malware to have any way to make the window be able to truly take over the screen. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: Typically you have to go full custom and assuming home is on a VG with free space you would then have to create a LV and define a fs on it, and assigned it as root (/). Similar would have to be done with /boot outside of LVM and if efi would you also need a /boot/efi again outside of LVM. I do not have LVM. No harddisk means no harddisk with free space(unpartitioned). If partitions are unused then you would have to assign them and/or rework them. What does the /home directory/disk look like? (partition table, lvm setup (if lvm)?) sda1: 100 M Windows sda2: 100 M Id 83 sda3: 31.6 G / Id 83 sda5: 5.0 G holds an iso9660 image, won't boot, so settled for DVD sda6: 6.0 G /var Id 83 sda7: 31.7 G /home Id 83 While running as a live OS, F38 can show me .jpg images from /home . While supposedly doing an install, it claims not to see /dev/sda or any hard drive at all. On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:06?AM Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. When I told it to install, no go. To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you How? It seems to want me to select from a list, but the list is empty. Also a message at the bottom states no hard drive detected. can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi partition if you are installing on a uefi system. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Mike Wright wrote: What would happen if you disconnected from the network just long enough to change the settings on the browser to NOT open new pages in a tab but instead to do it the old-fashioned way: open new pages in their own window. You might be able to X the malware window or at least identify it with ps so you could manually kill it by PID. As it is, if I disconnect from the network, I can remove the offending tab, but I have to play with wires. I'd rather not. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. When I told it to install, no go. To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you How? It seems to want me to select from a list, but the list is empty. Also a message at the bottom states no hard drive detected. can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi partition if you are installing on a uefi system. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/05/2023 09:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: It's a pity there isn't a hotkey for killing just the frontmost/topmost program. ALT+F4 will close the top/front window, if they're obeying control, but I mean instantly killing the topmost window despite what it wants. There's a force quit taskbar app for that (on Mate, at least), click on it, then click on the window you want to kill. But that can be hard to do if something is really hammering the CPU with a heavy load. Just install xkill and put an icon for it on your taskbar. It's DE agnostic and kills rogue windows just fine. That might work if I could get to it, but with the malware doing its thing, no go. I can delete just one tab if I disconnect from the internet. For now, that means disconnecting a cable, as I cannot use the network icon either. Hence the desire to keep malware from going fullscreen. Also, disconnection might not work on a similar attack done with client-side scripting. In that case, I might have to directly kill a process. I can do that from another console, but do not know how to select the process of the rogue tab. IIRC xkill kills an application, not necessarily a single process. For the most recent malware, that is overkill. To kill firefox, I might be able to use xkill started from another console. Using top and plain kill seems simpler. BTW SIGSTOPping firefox did not work either. It quit talking to me, but would not leave fullscreen mode. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. When I told it to install, no go. Suggestions? Requests for more data? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:11?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:19?AM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: This is trying to cure the disease by eliminating a symptom. You don't know what is happening behind that full screen. Going fullscreen is part if what makes it hard to even try to make it go away. The malware does three things: 1. It shows an image. 2. It goes fullscreen. 3. It disables buttons. Preventing 1 would seem a really bad idea. I'd like to prevent 2 or 3. Did you try alt-tab to switch to another application (say a terminal) to kill the tab from the command line? I don't think the full screen trick inside firefox can stop that, and I think I have hit a few of these half-assed websites before, but alt-tab must have worked for me to bypass them and kill the tab. I can switch to another virtual console, but do not know how to kill just one tab. I can got out of it by disconnecting the ethernet cable, but would rather disconnect with the GUI. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:19?AM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: This is trying to cure the disease by eliminating a symptom. You don't know what is happening behind that full screen. Going fullscreen is part if what makes it hard to even try to make it go away. The malware does three things: 1. It shows an image. 2. It goes fullscreen. 3. It disables buttons. Preventing 1 would seem a really bad idea. I'd like to prevent 2 or 3. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023, stan via users wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:06:46 -0500 (CDT) I think it is done by running javascript through your version of firefox. Do you have noscript add-on installed? That will block any Noscript was already installed nand active. It did not complain. javascript from a site, and you will have to turn on the urls that you want to be able to run javascript. I'm not sure how effective that would be in this case, since cloudfront.net is often needed because many sites use it as their host. But, I expect that the problem url would show up differently in noscript, and you would be able to leave it disabled. Usually, cloudfront.net is disabled automatically for other urls. I'm not willing to test that expectation, for obvious reasons. :-) I'm not clear on what this means. The url window showed .cloudfront.net . You could test whether this is the solution by installing noscript, shutting down and restarting firefox to clear the cache of allowed sites (that is a setting in the privacy tab), and then visiting the site again. The site should be blocked, and you can click on the I already had noscript installed and it did not complain. noscript icon to see the list of urls that have been blocked from running javascript. If you want to experience the thrill again, you can allow javascript from the above problem address for confirmation. Then, turn it off, and the recovery is what you have already discovered. Once the site was active, all I could click on was an always-on application that was already running. The site seemed to have made firefox fullscreen and turned off all its buttons. Javascript is client-side, correct? The problem went away after disabling networking. Is there a way to tell firefox never to let a website take it fullscreen? Failing that, is there a way to tell firefox to never go fullscreen at all? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LinkageError occurred while loading main class Area_Triangle_Determinants
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/23 11:12, olivares33561 via users wrote: Transaction Summary Remove 62 Packages Freed space: 654 M Is this ok [y/N]: I guess I will need to just use your advice and leave it as it is. I do not want to remove libreoffice. I use it. Thanks to all who have explained how to deal with this issue. I had not encountered it before but was afraid to ask. You could still try the alternatives option. "alternatives --config java" How would that work? It seems to me he has no version 17 compiler to go with the version 17 virtual machine. If he has a version 21 virtual machine, he could just soft link java21 to it. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LinkageError occurred while loading main class Area_Triangle_Determinants
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, olivares33561 via users wrote: [olivares@fedora mptmp]$ rpm -qa | grep openjdk java-17-openjdk-headless-17.0.8.0.7-1.fc38.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-headless-21.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc38.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-21.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc38.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-devel-21.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc38.x86_64 [olivares@fedora mptmp]$ javac Ulam.java --release 17 [olivares@fedora mptmp]$ java Ulam Is there a better way to avoid doing this, ie removing java 17 and forcing 21 ? or vice versa to avoid this. I had not encountered this before in previous versions of Fedora it just worked! Now I have to specify. What would be the best thing to do? and make it work correctly. I'd expect that within any sensible system, the java compiler and the java virtual machine would be compatible. The package java-17... seems to be an outlier and seems to be where the java virtual machine is coming from. If another package has a headless virtual machine, you might want to get rid of java-17... . -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: I the meantime, how do I blacklist those addresses? Oops. In the meantime, how do I blacklist those addresses? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
How do I stop this malware
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Re: restoring fedora boot manager
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023, Bill Cunningham wrote: On 9/21/2023 5:53 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 09:02:42AM +0100, Barry wrote: On 20 Sep 2023, at 01:41, Bill Cunningham wrote: I had to reinstall my windows system which is fine it takes care of itself. But, I have to install my entire fedora system from scratch. Is there a way to simply reinstall the boot loader code without having to install from scratch with a UEFI system? I'm sure there is but I don't know about it. There's also a command called "efibootmgr" is this what I am looking for? AFAIK fedora doesn't install more partitions but just code in the /boot/efi partition. How can I reinstall or repair boot loader code without touching the system? Without having to reinstalling from scratch? In my notes I saved this command for fixing fedora booting on one of my systems. (I had a system that would fill its EFI variable space and need a full reset) efibootmgr --create --disk /dev/md126 --part 2 --loader /EFI/fedora/shim.efi --label Fedora In this case /dev/md126 is my raided fedora disk, replace with your disk. /dev/md126p2 - VFAT - EFI Partition 2 is what is mounted on /boot/EFI, change the 2 as needed. From my notes :) .. : - add a boot entry: efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -w -L Debian -l "\EFI\debian\grubx64.efi" - If I recall correctly: This command above was done a machine where /dev/sdb was a disk where Debian was already installed. The 'man' page should explain the rest of the options. see: https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#efibootmgr_example_3_-_add_a_new_boot_entry At the end of "man efibootmgr" you should find an example for a Fedora install - it says "The default OS Loader is \EFI\fedora\grub.efi" But that looks wrong to me. My guess would be that this should say for a nowadays Fedora install probably: "\EFI\fedora\shim.efi" The latter at least was what I saw with a quick Internet search and the output from entering "efibootmgr" on my own Fedora install here. Excerpt: [ ] Boot0002* Fedora HD(1,GPT,[..])/File(\EFI\fedora\shim.efi) [ ] See the "\EFI\fedora\shim.efi" section above.. I'd simply take some Live system on a thumb, boot it, and then have a look at the output of # efibootmgr and proceed with that info ... Good luck! Wolfgang Would it be that entering the simple grub2-install (like with a mbr boot) would work? That's the important thing, to rescue a fedora system and get it running. The other things about uefi I could learn in time. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue That sure was a lot of quoteage for just a B. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: shrinking Windows C: drive to make room for Linux
Thanks for all the help. I have just a few more questions. C: seems to be almost ready to shrink. Windows' disk manager tells me disk 0 is laid out as follows: D0P1C: D0P4=disk 0, partition 4 100 MB 953.26 GB NTFS 509 MB EFI system restore system Should I ignore the 509 MB and just shrink C: ? Do I need to not ignore the 509 MB? Once upon a time I had trouble with a DOS-style disk. After my ingeneous editing, partition 3 came before partition 2 or some such thing. A repeat would not be good. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: shrinking Windows C: drive to make room for Linux
None of the hits I got from search made explicit that one could shrink the C: partition even while it was in use. They focused on getting around Windows shrink's liomitations. From the list responses, I gather that one can indeed srink the C: partition while it is in use. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
shrinking Windows C: drive to make room for Linux
I have an HP Elite with Windows 10. The result of searching suggests that one can shrink the C: drive, e.g. through disk management, even while running Windows. Is this correct? If not, would someone be kind enough to point to the preoper procedure? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: HP EliteBook vs. Linux
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 1:54?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: Am I correct about the USB ports? Charging ports may (or may not) carry data. It depends on the pin configuration. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#USB_battery_charging . You should check the technical specs of the laptop, or look at the pins connected on the motherboard. The manual (I actually found it) has the same information I gave the list. My guess is that the laptop has two USB 3.0 data ports, one of which takes a USB C connector. My guess is that the USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging port is not a data port. Otherwise data would have been mentioned. I'd prefer to know. BTW HP or newegg has done a better job than most. On rather a lot of laptops, discovering its ports is a god-awful pain. If I go to a store with physical laptops, the ports are never listed. I have to physically inspect the device. As the device is nailed down and I do not own anything with a USB 3 port, recognizing USB 3 ports is a pain. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: HP EliteBook vs. Linux
Thank you Terry and Barry. Am I correct about the USB ports? Also, I've never put Linux on a TPM-contaminated device. I've read that it has been done and infer that it has been done on an HP EliteBook. My experience has been that finding information on fedora sites is long drawn-out process. A pointer to how to install on a TPM device would be nice. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
HP EliteBook vs. Linux
Is Fedora useable on an HP EliteBook 840 G3? I have the impression that that is an essay question. The specs list 2 USB 3.0 ports and 1 USB C ports. The labeling on the images show 1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging 1 USB Basic type C 1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 My guess is that the charging "port" is not really a port and is just good for charging things. Correct? I also guess that the USB Basic type C port is the USB C port and one of the 2 USB 3.0 ports. Correct? Also listed is 16 GB of RAM that is shared with the video. Any idea how much memory is shared with the video? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB?
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/23 21:08, Michael Hennebry wrote: If you really want a warning and all else fails, use your own checksums. Have a process walk the filesystem. If a file is open for writing, skip it. If a file is older than the recorded checksum, test the checksum. Write a new checksum. Where to put the checksums is left as an exercise for the reader. If you're using btrfs, everything is automatically checksummed at all times. But I don't know what this will warn you of in this case. SSDs usually fail suddenly with no warning. It's very unlikely that you will get corrupted data. I was expecting that there would be some time between the first corrupt block and an irreparable filing system. From subsequent reading, there is, but the SSD does a good job of hiding corrupt blocks. A better tactic would be to ask the SSD how many spare blocks it has left. That assumes one can ask the SSD and that one does it before the flash translation layer is corrupted by a bad block. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB?
If you really want a warning and all else fails, use your own checksums. Have a process walk the filesystem. If a file is open for writing, skip it. If a file is older than the recorded checksum, test the checksum. Write a new checksum. Where to put the checksums is left as an exercise for the reader. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: what does @@ -112,14 +107,14 @@ double sqrt_rn(double x) mean?
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: @@ -112,14 +107,14 @@ double sqrt_rn(double x) Is it a git-specific thing? No. info diffutils and look for -p (--show-c-function) Got it. Thanks. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
what does @@ -112,14 +107,14 @@ double sqrt_rn(double x) mean?
@@ -112,14 +107,14 @@ double sqrt_rn(double x) I'm running fedora 35. The line is part of the output from git diff -w proof -- > dif.out for sqrt_rn.c . It seems a random insertion. The @@'s and between them are in red, the rest purple. The sequence rn( occurs only in line 26 on both branches. Is it a git-specific thing? Examining lines 112 and 107 is uninformative. Any idea what it means or why it is there? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: randomization
On Thu, 25 May 2023, Chris Adams wrote: There's also /dev/urandom (which should never "run out" of randomness), but IIRC they're the basically same now and neither will block (except possibly during boot). My understanding is that urandom will never run out because it is an interface to a pseudorandom number generator. random gets its data from a hardware random number pool. Correct? But if you're writing a program, there's the getrandom() call. https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/getrandom.2.html -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Wed, 24 May 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-24 at 08:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There's only one true editor for developers: emacs Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. ? Ah, all the old jokes again :-) Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift EMACS Makes A Computer Slow. I usually use gvim and hand-made make files. If I get stuck, I print something out, but not from gvim, from gedit. Printing from gvim gives me a rather thin font that I find hard to read. Ideally I would discover what gedit does and tell gvim to do that. Have not been able to do either. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Messages held for moderation.
On Tue, 9 May 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/09/2023 04:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: (trim the quoted text down to the most recent/relevant messages only). This should always be done so that readers don't have to plow through dozens of lines from various messages looking for the relevant bits. Rather often it isn't. I even see boilerplate quoted. Is there a way to moderate mail for boilerplate quoting? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
