Re: [users] Recovery pages won't close

2010-11-28 Thread Elgin Lewis
You could uninstall-reinstall, but that wouldn't solve your 'small screen' 
problem, so you might wind up next week in the same fix.  Then again, you would 
also have to watch out that the re-installed version didn't change too many of 
your settings.  I recently upgraded to 3.2, and I'm still rummaging around in 
there trying to reset my settings like I had them before.

Good luck.

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Subject: [users] Recovery pages won't close

Hi - This is kind of lame but. . .There was an issue with a doc I was opening 
in 
OpenOffice 3.2.  A recovery screen came up on my netbook - however, because of 
my small screen I can't view the entire doc (its says Sending the error 
report)  - and it won't close - because I can't scroll down to hit send  and 
just sits there. . .every time I power on.  Any thoughts on what I might do? I 
tried closing it with the Task manager - but, it reappears every time I turn my 
netbook on.  I'm probably going to uninstall Open Office. . .but, thought I'd 
check with you.

Happy Turkey day.

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[users] Dates into Calc

2010-11-28 Thread Harold Fuchs

OOo 3.2.1 Vista Home Premium, Calc

I have a web page showing a table of dates and associated events. The 
dates, all in the same year (2011) are in the style, for example Sun 
Oct 23. If I copy/paste the table into Calc, the example date I just 
gave comes across as 01/10/2023. How do I fix this so that the dates 
come across correctly?


Calc's Paste Special option doesn't seem to help.

I have tried saving the table as a CSV file by copy/pasting the web 
table into a text editor and then opening that file in Calc but the 
result is the same.


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[users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread James Greenidge
A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at 
the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store 
then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted 
into a Write doc?

Thanks!


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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com:

A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at  
the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store  
then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted  
into a Write doc?

Thanks!


Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from writer?  
If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I guess  
OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a separate  
folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that.


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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread Daniel Lewis

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com:

A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get 
at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo 
store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files 
pasted into a Write doc?

Thanks!


Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from 
writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I 
guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a 
separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that.


The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This 
folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the images 
are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded into the 
writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, the ODF file 
will only contain a link to where the images were located when you made 
the link to the images.


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Re: [users] Delete Section Break

2010-11-28 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 20/11/2010 12:42, Brian Barker wrote:

At 10:29 20/11/2010 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 on Win XP Pro

How do I delete the break between two sections? In other words, how 
do I combine two adjacent sections into one?


Put the cursor in front of the first character in the second section 
and press Backspace.  In my 3.1.1, this appears to combine the 
sections, with the new combined section inheriting the properties of 
the first.  It's like page breaks, in other words.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker




This doesn't work for me. The text after the cursor moves but the 
section itself stays.


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Re: [users] Delete Section Break

2010-11-28 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 20/11/2010 12:27, Mike Scott wrote:

On 20/11/10 10:29, Harold Fuchs wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 on Win XP Pro

How do I delete the break between two sections? In other words, how do I
combine two adjacent sections into one?

TIA.


The only way I can see is to delete the sections (illogically, under
format|section) and make a new one. You can, it seems though, create the
new one first by selecting both and using insert|section; they seem to
nest happily.


Thanks. This works. I'd have thought that deleting a section would 
remove the text but apparently not. I've decided I don't understand 
sections, even after reading the OOo documents - perhaps I've read the 
wrong ones - so I'm going to start a separate thread.


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[users] Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Harold Fuchs
I've read some of the documentation on Sections in OOo Writer but I've 
decided I don't understand the thinking behind them. Perhaps some would 
explain it to me:


If I create a new blank Writer document, type a few lines and then 
insert a section, a few things are puzzling:


1. The new section is named section 1. Why not section 2? Why isn't 
the text *before* the new section considered to be Section 1? Of course, 
programmers prefer to count from zero ;-) but the text above the new 
section isn't Section 0 either ...


2. The text before the new section doesn't seem to belong to any 
section. I don't seem to be able to format it like I can the new 
section. What is happening here?


3. When I create the new section, a faint box appears on the screen and 
the cursor jumps to a point *below* the bottom of this box. But where 
the cursor is doesn't seen to be a section (section 2?) either.


4. If I set the Navigator to select Sections then Next section and 
Previous section behave strangely (to my eyes): If the cursor is 
*inside* the new section then Next Section and Previous Section do 
nothing. If the cursor is in the text above the top (below the bottom) 
of the new section then Next (Previous) Section jumps into the new 
section. So the cursor can be made to jump into the new section but not 
out of it:-(


5. If I new insert a new section *inside* the one I just made then it is 
named Section 2 and the old Section 1 seems to have divided into two - 
part above and part below the new section. If I format Section 1 (say by 
making it into multiple columns) then both halves of the section 
acquire the new format.


6. If the cursor is inside Section 2 then Previous Section moves it into 
the top half of Section 1 but Next Section does nothing.


There's obviously a fundamental something which I'm misunderstanding. 
Please ...


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Re: [users] Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Richard Detwiler

Hi Harold,

I've used sections quite a bit and I think I understand how they work 
for the most part, although I also haven't thought about things quite as 
deeply as you obviously have! :)


Comments in line ...

Harold Fuchs wrote:
I've read some of the documentation on Sections in OOo Writer but I've 
decided I don't understand the thinking behind them. Perhaps some 
would explain it to me:


If I create a new blank Writer document, type a few lines and then 
insert a section, a few things are puzzling:


1. The new section is named section 1. Why not section 2? Why 
isn't the text *before* the new section considered to be Section 1? Of 
course, programmers prefer to count from zero ;-) but the text above 
the new section isn't Section 0 either ...


A section doesn't exist unless you specifically create one. There 
probably could have been different terminology used instead of the word 
section, although I can't think of a better term at the moment. So 
when you create a section after typing a few lines, the section you 
create is indeed the first section, or section 1. What you typed before 
isn't a section. Might not make sense but that's the way it is ...


2. The text before the new section doesn't seem to belong to any 
section. I don't seem to be able to format it like I can the new 
section. What is happening here?


Well, because it isn't a section. If you want to format that text like a 
section, you need to highlight it and then choose Insert  Section.


3. When I create the new section, a faint box appears on the screen 
and the cursor jumps to a point *below* the bottom of this box. But 
where the cursor is doesn't seen to be a section (section 2?) either.


That's correct; kind of unusual/unexpected behaviour in my opinion. But 
to type text in Section 1, which you just created, just click in the 
faint box and you'll be in Section 1.


4. If I set the Navigator to select Sections then Next section and 
Previous section behave strangely (to my eyes): If the cursor is 
*inside* the new section then Next Section and Previous Section do 
nothing. If the cursor is in the text above the top (below the bottom) 
of the new section then Next (Previous) Section jumps into the new 
section. So the cursor can be made to jump into the new section but 
not out of it:-(


I usually don't use the Navigator so I can't shed any insight into this 
observation.


5. If I new insert a new section *inside* the one I just made then it 
is named Section 2 and the old Section 1 seems to have divided into 
two - part above and part below the new section. If I format Section 1 
(say by making it into multiple columns) then both halves of the 
section acquire the new format.


Yes -- this seems unexpected as well. I can see that formatting Section 
1 might affect Section 2, because Section 2 was created as a sort of 
subset of Section 1. But I also tried formatting section 2 as 4 columns, 
while Section 1 was already formatted as 2 columns. Formatting Section 2 
changed the number of columns in Section 1. I can experiment with this 
some more, but it's more like they're a single section rather than two 
sections.


6. If the cursor is inside Section 2 then Previous Section moves it 
into the top half of Section 1 but Next Section does nothing.


There's obviously a fundamental something which I'm misunderstanding. 
Please ...


I'm sure I haven't helped much. To corrupt the words of Brian Barker, I 
trust this doesn't help.


But if it's any consolation, I do find sections extremely useful, if a 
little mysterious. I edit the newsletter for our local orienteering 
club, and I make very extensive use of sections. For example, if I want 
the heading for an article to span the width of the page, but the 
article to be in two columns, this is a perfect use for sections. There 
are many other uses also. As I've said, I haven't thought about their 
peculiarities nearly as deeply as you have! When I find something that 
seems a bit unexpected, I just accept it and roll with it.



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Re: [users] Delete Section Break

2010-11-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:41 28/11/2010 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 20/11/2010 12:42, Brian Barker wrote:

At 10:29 20/11/2010 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 on Win XP Pro

How do I delete the break between two sections? In other words, 
how do I combine two adjacent sections into one?


Put the cursor in front of the first character in the second 
section and press Backspace.  In my 3.1.1, this appears to combine 
the sections, with the new combined section inheriting the 
properties of the first.  It's like page breaks, in other words.


This doesn't work for me. The text after the cursor moves but the 
section itself stays.


That's not particularly clear.  Do you mean that the text of the 
second section moves into the first?  If so, you simply need to 
delete the second section.  If not, in what way does it move?  Are 
the sections adjacent, or is the second actually embedded in the first?


Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:03 28/11/2010 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:
I've read some of the documentation on Sections in OOo Writer but 
I've decided I don't understand the thinking behind them. Perhaps 
some would explain it to me:


If I create a new blank Writer document, type a few lines and then 
insert a section, a few things are puzzling:


1. The new section is named section 1. Why not section 2? Why 
isn't the text *before* the new section considered to be Section 1? 
Of course, programmers prefer to count from zero ;-) but the text 
above the new section isn't Section 0 either ...


Because the text before the new section is not a section at all - 
just part of the document.  You may be thinking in Word-speak, where 
a section is actually a section *break*, and all text is (I think) in 
sections, divided by these section breaks.  In Writer, your newly 
inserted section is indeed the first.


2. The text before the new section doesn't seem to belong to any 
section. I don't seem to be able to format it like I can the new 
section. What is happening here?


You are correct: it is not in a section, so you cannot use any 
techniques that apply to sections.  But you can apply many formatting 
options using paragraph or - more likely - page formatting.


3. When I create the new section, a faint box appears on the screen 
and the cursor jumps to a point *below* the bottom of this box. But 
where the cursor is doesn't seen to be a section (section 2?) either.


Correct: just like the material before your one and only section, 
anything you put here will be outside any section.


4. If I set the Navigator to select Sections then Next section and 
Previous section behave strangely (to my eyes): If the cursor is 
*inside* the new section then Next Section and Previous Section do 
nothing. If the cursor is in the text above the top (below the 
bottom) of the new section then Next (Previous) Section jumps into 
the new section. So the cursor can be made to jump into the new 
section but not out of it:-(


This all makes sense if you see your document as containing one 
section, not three.  If you are inside the section, there is no other 
section to move to: neither a previous nor a next one.  If you are 
outside that section, you can indeed move to it as the next or 
previous (and only) section, as appropriate.


5. If I new insert a new section *inside* the one I just made then 
it is named Section 2 and the old Section 1 seems to have divided 
into two - part above and part below the new section. If I format 
Section 1 (say by making it into multiple columns) then both 
halves of the section acquire the new format.


The two sections are nested.  Section 1 is indeed divided, and any 
formatting applied to it should apply to all of it - both parts, that 
is.  That's exactly what I would hope and expect.


6. If the cursor is inside Section 2 then Previous Section moves it 
into the top half of Section 1 but Next Section does nothing.


Moving to a section appears to mean moving to the beginning of that 
section.  If you are in Section 2, the beginning of Section 1 is 
another section and before it, so it makes sense for Previous Section 
to move there.  But there is no beginning of a section later than 
this, so Next Section has nowhere to go.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:53 28/11/2010 -0500, Richard Detwiler wrote:
I'm sure I haven't helped much. To corrupt the words of Brian 
Barker, I trust this doesn't help.


On the contrary, what you said makes a lot of sense.  But thanks for the laugh!

For example, if I want the heading for an article to span the width 
of the page, but the article to be in two columns, this is a perfect 
use for sections.


Exactly so!

Brian Barker


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[users] how to set x character and lines per page ?

2010-11-28 Thread Victor Stapelberg
Hello

I am writing a book and I need to format it in a way
as to know how man pages of text I have reached.

I need 55 character/spaces x 30 lines per page

Thank you

Victor


Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread James Greenidge

On 11/28/10 10:04 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote:

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com:

A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get 
at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo 
store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files 
pasted into a Write doc?

Thanks!


Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from 
writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I 
guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a 
separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that.


The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This 
folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the 
images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded into 
the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, the 
ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were located 
when you made the link to the images.


Dan


Thanks for the swift answer!

I found several files in Pictures folder which have several files with 
long random numbers as filenames which my Mac image readers won't even 
list. Are they real image files and are they PNG or PICT or JPG and MOV 
like my image readers are expecting?


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[users] OpenOffice x Outlook/Exchange

2010-11-28 Thread Gerson Fregoneze


We intend to install OpenOffice in our office and I would like to know how can 
I use the OpenOffice's text editor and spell checker as default editor Outlook 
(2003 and 2007 version).
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Re: [users] Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:03 28/11/2010 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:
3. When I create the new section, a faint box appears on the screen 
and the cursor jumps to a point *below* the bottom of this box.


I perhaps missed the significance of this point the first time around.

o  If you have nothing selected when you insert a section, you get an 
empty section where the cursor is.  So if you insert a section in an 
empty document, you get an empty section at the start, with the 
cursor outside the section and following it.


o  If you have something selected when you insert a section, the new 
section is created containing that material.  If you start with an 
empty document, but then press Shift+Right Arrow or Ctrl+Shift+End, 
you apparently select the nothing that you so far have in your 
document.  Why do I think this?  If you then insert the section, the 
cursor appears inside the section!


Perhaps this might also help ...

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] how to set x character and lines per page ?

2010-11-28 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2010-11-26 22:38:54 skrev Victor Stapelberg vstapel...@gmail.com:


Hello

I am writing a book and I need to format it in a way
as to know how man pages of text I have reached.

I need 55 character/spaces x 30 lines per page

Thank you

Victor


What do you mean by ”55 characters/spaces”? Depending on your font, ”M”  
might take the same space as ”iii”, so is it 55 ”M” or 55 ”i” or do you  
intend to use a fixed font, like FreeMono, Courier or similar?


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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread Daniel Lewis

James Greenidge wrote:

On 11/28/10 10:04 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote:

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com:

A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and 
get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does 
OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image 
files pasted into a Write doc?

Thanks!


Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from 
writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I 
guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in 
a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that.


The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This 
folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the 
images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded 
into the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, 
the ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were 
located when you made the link to the images.


Dan


Thanks for the swift answer!

I found several files in Pictures folder which have several files 
with long random numbers as filenames which my Mac image readers won't 
even list. Are they real image files and are they PNG or PICT or JPG 
and MOV like my image readers are expecting?


They are real images. I save an embedded picture (JPEG file) in a Writer 
document. When I unzipped the document, the file in the Picture folder 
contained a JPEG file. When I did the same thing when embedding a PNG 
picture in a Writer document, the Picture folder contained a PNG file. 
My conclusion: the image files in the Picture folder are the image 
formats as the image format of the image embedded in the Writer document.


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Re: [users] Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Michael Adams
On Monday 29 November 2010 05:03, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 I've read some of the documentation on Sections in OOo Writer but I've
 decided I don't understand the thinking behind them. Perhaps some would
 explain it to me:

 If I create a new blank Writer document, type a few lines and then
 insert a section, a few things are puzzling:

 1. The new section is named section 1. Why not section 2? 

You can call a section anything you like, just rename it where it suggests the 
section name.

 Why isn't 
 the text *before* the new section considered to be Section 1? 

It is a section within a document you are creating. any text outside sections 
is just part of the default document.

 Of course, 
 programmers prefer to count from zero ;-) but the text above the new
 section isn't Section 0 either ...

Programmers use whatever the default of the programming language is. IIRC 
correctly Delphi starts counting array elements from one. It is just that 
zero is a valid number in binary storage.

 2. The text before the new section doesn't seem to belong to any
 section. I don't seem to be able to format it like I can the new
 section. What is happening here?

Any text below your new section behaves this way to. You can format it exactly 
the same as any section text. You just cannot format it from the section 
dialogue box. Sections within a document are optional parts of that document.

 3. When I create the new section, a faint box appears on the screen and
 the cursor jumps to a point *below* the bottom of this box. But where
 the cursor is doesn't seen to be a section (section 2?) either.

You are right, the cursor is not in the section. Before you created the 
section the cursor (i call it the blinker) was not in a section. After 
creation the blinker is not in a section. 

 4. If I set the Navigator to select Sections then Next section and
 Previous section behave strangely (to my eyes): If the cursor is
 *inside* the new section then Next Section and Previous Section do
 nothing. If the cursor is in the text above the top (below the bottom)
 of the new section then Next (Previous) Section jumps into the new
 section. So the cursor can be made to jump into the new section but not
 out of it:-(

Depends on how many sections you have created.

 5. If I new insert a new section *inside* the one I just made then it is
 named Section 2 and the old Section 1 seems to have divided into two -
 part above and part below the new section. If I format Section 1 (say by
 making it into multiple columns) then both halves of the section
 acquire the new format.

Correct, you have created a section within a section, Just like Section 1 
was created within the document. Think of it as the creation of a margin to 
margin container or box.

 6. If the cursor is inside Section 2 then Previous Section moves it into
 the top half of Section 1 but Next Section does nothing.

Section 2 as you have created it is a child of Section 1. I don't know of 
any valid use for this layout at this stage. Next Section may not be 
programmed to understand the child-parent relationship. If you create 2 or 
more independant sections with the document as the parent, Next and Previous 
Section behave as i would expect. 

 There's obviously a fundamental something which I'm misunderstanding.
 Please ...

A document does not need any sections at all, they are optonal like line 
numbers or bullets. Sections have a specific use, for me the best use is 
column control.

The attached document may help you understand it better. I have labelled each 
paragraph and section name by it's place within the docoment. I can navigate 
by clicking a section name in the navigator and using the up [↑] and down [↓] 
arrow keys. Then to place the blinker in the section i tap enter.

HTH

-- 
Michael 


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[users] Re: OpenOffice x Outlook/Exchange

2010-11-28 Thread David H. Lipman
From: Gerson Fregoneze gerson.fregon...@amrop-pmc.com.br



| We intend to install OpenOffice in our office and I would like to know how 
can I use
| the OpenOffice's text editor and spell checker as default editor Outlook 
(2003 and 2007
| version).
| Note: We can not uninstall/ discharge the Outlook version already installed.
| Sincerely,


Probably not as Outlook is hardwired for its own editor or Microsoft Word.  It 
doesn't 
work with any other editors.


-- 
Dave
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Re: [users] Dates into Calc

2010-11-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:31 28/11/2010 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 Vista Home Premium, Calc

I have a web page showing a table of dates and associated events. 
The dates, all in the same year (2011) are in the style, for example 
Sun Oct 23. If I copy/paste the table into Calc, the example date 
I just gave comes across as 01/10/2023. How do I fix this so that 
the dates come across correctly?


Calc's Paste Special option doesn't seem to help.

I have tried saving the table as a CSV file by copy/pasting the web 
table into a text editor and then opening that file in Calc but the 
result is the same.


I don't think you can achieve what you really want: some way of 
pasting this that gives rise directly to correct dates.  You have two 
pasting options, I think: with General formatting, you see a wrongly 
interpreted date; with cells previously formatted as Text, you will 
preserve the original form.  In either case, you then need a little 
processing to form the original date that you need.


o  In the first case (where you see 01/10/2023), try:
 =DATE(2011;MONTH(A1);MOD(YEAR(A1);100))

o  In the second case (where you see Sun Oct 23), try:
 =DATEVALUE(MID(A1;9;2) MID(A1;5;3) 2011)
In this case, you will need to format the results cell as Date to see 
what you need.


You can either paste the results back over the originals (using Paste 
Special...) or hide the original values if you prefer, of course.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] how to set x character and lines per page ?

2010-11-28 Thread Michael Adams
On Saturday 27 November 2010 10:38, Victor Stapelberg wrote:
 Hello

 I am writing a book and I need to format it in a way
 as to know how man pages of text I have reached.

 I need 55 character/spaces x 30 lines per page

To set these you need to think slightly outside the box. Mainly because modern 
fonts are variable in height and width. More than that each letter has a 
different width. Typing 20 'i's and 20 'm's will demonstrate that.




You need to therefore choose a monospaced font. Look for Courier or Courier 
New on a windows computer. Try the same experiment again and you will see 
all characters are the same width. Now type the numbers below.

You can then set the size of the font to the largest that will allow it all on 
one page, then adjust the page margins (See Format - Page from the menu) 
using top and bottom margins to get your number of lines.

In the paragraph setup (Format - Paragraph) you may need to set the space 
above and below each paragraph to 0mm, 0cm or 0inches.

I would also recommend reading the getting started manual from the 
support/documentation section of the website.
 
Hope that helps

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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread James Greenidge

On 11/28/10 2:20 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote:

James Greenidge wrote:

On 11/28/10 10:04 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote:

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com:

A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and 
get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does 
OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image 
files pasted into a Write doc?

Thanks!


Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from 
writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I 
guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in 
a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that.


The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This 
folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the 
images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded 
into the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, 
the ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were 
located when you made the link to the images.


Dan


Thanks for the swift answer!

I found several files in Pictures folder which have several files 
with long random numbers as filenames which my Mac image readers 
won't even list. Are they real image files and are they PNG or PICT 
or JPG and MOV like my image readers are expecting?


They are real images. I save an embedded picture (JPEG file) in a 
Writer document. When I unzipped the document, the file in the Picture 
folder contained a JPEG file. When I did the same thing when embedding 
a PNG picture in a Writer document, the Picture folder contained a PNG 
file. My conclusion: the image files in the Picture folder are the 
image formats as the image format of the image embedded in the Writer 
document.


Dan
 O.K, now that you state that things might get more complex, so please 
bear with this non-techie and that this all on Mac OOo. Firstly, I 
learned that the Writer images were not file imported into the Writer 
document but directly cut-and-pasted from Graphic Converter (a fine 
Photoshop workalike) after being resized from both JPG and GIF and PNG 
originals (we found only BMP can be directly imported as a file without 
the Sections menu appearing). So, would these images be cut and pasted 
into Writer in their original format or converted by OOo into a native 
OOo image format? That said, how can we tell what image formats these 
files in the Picture folder are to do anything with them, and more, 
how do you make image viewers (and future re-pasting) see them with 
their odd long all numbers non-image format file names? Hope I spelled 
it out coherently! Thanks!



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Re: [users] how to set x character and lines per page ?

2010-11-28 Thread Guy Voets
2010/11/28 Michael Adams mbad...@paradise.net.nz:
 On Saturday 27 November 2010 10:38, Victor Stapelberg wrote:
 Hello

 I am writing a book and I need to format it in a way
 as to know how man pages of text I have reached.

 I need 55 character/spaces x 30 lines per page

Hello Victor,

For the 55 characters and spaces per line:
see previous answers (hope you saw them, since you're not subscribed
to this list).
In essence: Use a monospace font like Courier, otherwise mmm takes
more space than iii.
(I think it a bit strange that you are forced to use a monospaced
font. A book would rather imply you have a fixed width of the bloc of
text, not a fixed number of -equal width- characters.)

For the 30 lines per page:
1- you can set line numbering (Tools  Line Numbering) - you only need
to set the 30th line...
2- you can set top and bottom margins in order to leave only room for 30 lines
(keeping in mind not to leave extra space above or below paragraphs
(Format  Paragrapgh  Indents  Spacing  Spacing = 0)

HTH
-- 
Guy
using LibO 3.3.0 and OOo 3.3.0 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard
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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread RA Brown

On Sun Nov 28 2010 12:48:29 GMT-0800 (PST)  James Greenidge wrote:

 O.K, now that you state that things might get more complex, so please 
bear with this non-techie and that this all on Mac OOo. Firstly, I 
learned that the Writer images were not file imported into the Writer 
document but directly cut-and-pasted from Graphic Converter (a fine 
Photoshop workalike) after being resized from both JPG and GIF and PNG 
originals (we found only BMP can be directly imported as a file without 
the Sections menu appearing). So, would these images be cut and pasted 
into Writer in their original format or converted by OOo into a native 
OOo image format? That said, how can we tell what image formats these 
files in the Picture folder are to do anything with them, and more, 
how do you make image viewers (and future re-pasting) see them with 
their odd long all numbers non-image format file names? Hope I spelled 
it out coherently! Thanks!




The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in.  You 
are saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native 
format of where they were cut from.  Are you not seeing a file extension?


You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files 
with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them.  Use your 
archive tool to extract them.


If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you.

Andy

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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread Guy Voets
 The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in.  You are
 saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native format of
 where they were cut from.  Are you not seeing a file extension?

 You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files
 with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them.  Use your
 archive tool to extract them.

 If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you.

 Andy

Hello,

Did a quick test:
- a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures'
in the odt folder
- an inserted picture (Insert  Picture  From File) appears in the
'Pictures' folder in the odt zip

-- 
Guy
using LibO 3.3.0 and OOo 3.3.0on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard
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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread RA Brown

On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST)  Guy Voets wrote:

The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in.  You are
saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native format of
where they were cut from.  Are you not seeing a file extension?

You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files
with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them.  Use your
archive tool to extract them.

If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you.

Andy


Hello,

Did a quick test:
- a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures'
in the odt folder
- an inserted picture (Insert  Picture  From File) appears in the
'Pictures' folder in the odt zip



That is strange as here it does.  I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted 
it into a new Writer document.  Saved the doc then closed Writer open 
the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the 
picture, in PNG format.  This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will 
test with OOo 3.3RC6.


Andy


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Re: [users] Recovery pages won't close

2010-11-28 Thread Mick
You might try one of the addresses that I got from my orignnal subscription 
message.


Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
  users-i...@openoffice.org
  users-...@openoffice.org

Good luck!


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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:15:09 -0800
From: edl...@yahoo.com
To: users@openoffice.org; path...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [users] Recovery pages won't close

You could uninstall-reinstall, but that wouldn't solve your 'small 
screen'
problem, so you might wind up next week in the same fix.  Then again, you 
would
also have to watch out that the re-installed version didn't change too 
many of
your settings.  I recently upgraded to 3.2, and I'm still rummaging 
around in

there trying to reset my settings like I had them before.

Good luck.

--- EDL Jr.




From: Patrice Hall path...@earthlink.net
To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 12:37:05 PM
Subject: [users] Recovery pages won't close

Hi - This is kind of lame but. . .There was an issue with a doc I was 
opening in
OpenOffice 3.2.  A recovery screen came up on my netbook - however, 
because of

my small screen I can't view the entire doc (its says Sending the error
report)  - and it won't close - because I can't scroll down to hit send 
and
just sits there. . .every time I power on.  Any thoughts on what I might 
do? I
tried closing it with the Task manager - but, it reappears every time I 
turn my
netbook on.  I'm probably going to uninstall Open Office. . .but, thought 
I'd

check with you.

Happy Turkey day.

Patrice

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Re: [users] Recovery pages won't close

2010-11-28 Thread RA Brown

On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:53:16 GMT-0800 (PST)  Carin Gala wrote:
Hello would anybody mind telling me how to get off this mailing list?! 
Mailing unsubscribe to: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org didn't work.


Thank you


Did you get a message from the server when you sent in the message?  If 
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[users] Re: Sections

2010-11-28 Thread Joe Smith

On 11/28/2010 11:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:

I've read some of the documentation on Sections in OOo Writer but I've
decided I don't understand the thinking behind them. Perhaps some would
explain it to me:

If I create a new blank Writer document, type a few lines and then
insert a section, a few things are puzzling:

1. The new section is named section 1. Why not section 2? Why isn't
the text *before* the new section considered to be Section 1?...


I think you can add sections to the list of things in OOo with confusing 
names. I say this because most people naturally associate the word 
section with document sections, but Writer's sections are not document 
sections at all.


A section in Writer is merely a container for some arbitrary document 
content; it might contain one word, one line, one page, or the entire 
document text.


The default names, e.g. Section 1, also suggest document sections, or 
at least some ordered sequence, but that's also misleading. A section 
named Section 100 could come first in the document, and Section 1 at 
the end: the name is purely an identifier. You could just as well call 
it Section Fred.


There are two distinguishing uses for sections that I can think of off 
the top of my head: a text layout change that occurs somewhere within a 
page (i.e. not at a page boundary), and for repeating some content 
multiple times (cloning).


For example, you need two-column running text, but the first page should 
have a full-width, single column title and first paragraph above the 
two-column text. You can make the page layout single column (just for 
the initial title and first paragraph), then put all the remaining text 
into a section that provides two-column layout.


The division has nothing to do with the document sections; it's just an 
arbitrary container that provides a defined region that is to receive 
some specific content and formatting.


I guess sections are similar to frames, but they don't float; they're 
part of the text flow.


Joe


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Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?

2010-11-28 Thread Daniel Lewis

RA Brown wrote:

On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST)  Guy Voets wrote:
The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in.  
You are
saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native 
format of

where they were cut from.  Are you not seeing a file extension?

You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the 
files
with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them.  Use 
your

archive tool to extract them.

If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for 
you.


Andy


Hello,

Did a quick test:
- a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures'
in the odt folder
- an inserted picture (Insert  Picture  From File) appears in the
'Pictures' folder in the odt zip



That is strange as here it does.  I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and 
pasted it into a new Writer document.  Saved the doc then closed 
Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there 
with the picture, in PNG format.  This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo 
v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6.


Andy
 Since the question involved Mac OS X, I created a writer document 
and saved it using my MacBook (10.4) with OOo from the OOo website. Then 
I cut an paste a PNG file into the document and saved it again. I do not 
have Stuffit on my MacBook. (Both saves was to my thumb drive (flash 
drive). I then opened the writer document on  my Ubuntu 10.4 LST so that 
I could use my archive manager. The Picture folder was present with one 
file: the same PNG file that I had pasted into the writer document with 
a very long file name.
While I do not have Stuffit, when a compressed file is opened in 
Stuffit; can you Control+Click on the file in the Picture folder and 
open it with Preview? (For people who do not use a Mac, Control+Click 
does the same thing that a right click does on Linux and Windows versions.)


Dan

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Re: [users] Recovery pages won't close

2010-11-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

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[users] Re: Dates into Calc

2010-11-28 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 28.11.2010 14:31, Harold Fuchs wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 Vista Home Premium, Calc

I have a web page showing a table of dates and associated events. The
dates, all in the same year (2011) are in the style, for example Sun
Oct 23. If I copy/paste the table into Calc, the example date I just
gave comes across as 01/10/2023. How do I fix this so that the dates
come across correctly?

Calc's Paste Special option doesn't seem to help.

I have tried saving the table as a CSV file by copy/pasting the web
table into a text editor and then opening that file in Calc but the
result is the same.



Hi,
Choose locale English(US) in the language options.
Greetings,
Andreas


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