Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-13 Thread Rob Davis

Eric Valette wrote:



In vnsiserver, ac3 spdif sound seems all mixed up.  ATSC here only uses
AC-3, but 5.1 sound only plays with Left and Right front speakers, so I
can't hear any dialogue.  On my HD-PVR, I get no sound at all, xbmc sees
an AC-3 stream, but the info page says 0 speakers?  However, the audio
settings while the stream is playing believes it to be a 5.1 audio track
(which it is..)

vnsiserver seems much better with the hdpvr as it doesn't start and stop
the stream three times like streamdev does..  (Big blue light flashes on
the hd-pvr box when it's being used.)

Streamdev will not display output correctly from my pvr500 card using
pvrinput.  It works with vnsi and obviously vdr-sxfe..


Well, on the other hand, streamdev works with eac3 not vnsserver. In 
france HD TV use eac3 for audio.


Sreamdev works thus better than vnsiserver for me .


I suspect the issue we're having with vnsi is pretty much the same, 
audio passthrough is broken.  If vnsi recognises the audio then it 
converts it to only two channels.  In your case it doesn't so you 
probably get only a picture, which I get with my pvr-input based hdpvr.
My other issue is only with the pvr-input plugin and streamdev.  The 
analogue channels (which I use for cable channels through a set top box 
and a channel change script) gets scrambled when it arrives at xbmc.  
Ffmpeg doesn't recognise the codec.  However that works with vnsi.  My 
hdpvr basically does the same thing for HD channels.  It converts them 
to an h264 channel with ac3 audio.  With streamdev, it seems the input 
is opened three times before the stream is sent (Big blue light comes on 
and goes off three times) then 1 in 3 times 10 seconds later xbmc starts 
to show it.  With vnsi, within 3 seconds the picture comes on the 
screen, but no audio.


vdr-sxfe, the audio goes out of sync within about 10 mins with vdpau and 
the hd-pvr..



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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-13 Thread Eric Valette

On 13/05/2010 15:40, Rob Davis wrote:



Sreamdev works thus better than vnsiserver for me .


I suspect the issue we're having with vnsi is pretty much the same,
audio passthrough is broken. If vnsi recognises the audio then it
converts it to only two channels. In your case it doesn't so you
probably get only a picture, which I get with my pvr-input based hdpvr.


Yes I have video only, but because it doesn't handle well the audio, it 
probably consumme a hell of CPU and the HD video stream skips and has 
macro blockand then finally freeze. I had the same behavior with 
streamdev before applying a one line patch for eac3.



My other issue is only with the pvr-input plugin and streamdev. The
analogue channels (which I use for cable channels through a set top box
and a channel change script) gets scrambled when it arrives at xbmc.


I use analog audio out when running directly on the hdpc (hdmi 
passthrough to be precise) eac3- pcm stereo (xbmc) - analog audio


However, I use a heavilly patched vdr 1.7.14 (for eac3 one single line 
but a lot of other things for packaged by vdr package maintainer) and 
streamdev (one single line for eac3 plus a lot of patches packaged by 
package maintainer).


--eric



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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-12 Thread Henning Pingel

Am Mittwoch, den 12.05.2010, 15:27 +0200 schrieb Rob Davis
r...@davis-family.info:
 Does anyone know where this is happening now?  I know the xbmc forum was
 down for a while, but this discussion never seemed to happen again
 afterwards.

Hello Rob,

Could you please specify in what kind of PVR discussion or what kind of
information you are interested?
I could point out a few threads to you but I'm confused about what you
want and why you ask here and not on the XBMC forum?

The whole vdr-plugin-vnsiserver discussion is IMHO taking place at
www.vdr-portal.de ATM.

Cheers,
Henning

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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-12 Thread Rob Davis
On 12/05/10 09:24, Henning Pingel wrote:
 
 Am Mittwoch, den 12.05.2010, 15:27 +0200 schrieb Rob Davis
 r...@davis-family.info:
 Does anyone know where this is happening now?  I know the xbmc forum was
 down for a while, but this discussion never seemed to happen again
 afterwards.
 
 Hello Rob,
 
 Could you please specify in what kind of PVR discussion or what kind of
 information you are interested?
 I could point out a few threads to you but I'm confused about what you
 want and why you ask here and not on the XBMC forum?
 
 The whole vdr-plugin-vnsiserver discussion is IMHO taking place at
 www.vdr-portal.de ATM.
 
 Cheers,
 Henning

I used to use:

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=45314page=54

But it hasn't been updated for a while.

I have been using pvr-testing and pvr-testing2 for a while now, and try
to keep up to date.  However, I have two problems/questions which I want
to either ask or flag to the developers but am unsure how to do it or
even if it's a known issue?

One is, there is an epg issue with people in the -X to GMT timezone,
where our listings don't appear for X-1 hours. (So me being in the
Chicago timezone (6 hours behind London) At 7am, xbmc won't see any
listings before 12pm...  I hacked this in a previous version, but don't
know whether this is a known issue which is being addressed?  It happens
with both vnsi and streamdev.

In vnsiserver, ac3 spdif sound seems all mixed up.  ATSC here only uses
AC-3, but 5.1 sound only plays with Left and Right front speakers, so I
can't hear any dialogue.  On my HD-PVR, I get no sound at all, xbmc sees
an AC-3 stream, but the info page says 0 speakers?  However, the audio
settings while the stream is playing believes it to be a 5.1 audio track
(which it is..)

vnsiserver seems much better with the hdpvr as it doesn't start and stop
the stream three times like streamdev does..  (Big blue light flashes on
the hd-pvr box when it's being used.)

Streamdev will not display output correctly from my pvr500 card using
pvrinput.  It works with vnsi and obviously vdr-sxfe..




-- 

Rob Davis

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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-12 Thread Henning Pingel

Am Mittwoch, den 12.05.2010, 17:36 +0200 schrieb Rob Davis
r...@davis-family.info:
 I have been using pvr-testing and pvr-testing2 for a while now, and try
 to keep up to date.  However, I have two problems/questions which I want
 to either ask or flag to the developers but am unsure how to do it or
 even if it's a known issue?

I guess the best thing is to report these issues one by one on the XBMC
bugtracker:

http://xbmc.org/trac/

When you open new tickets, please use the prefix pvr-testing: when you
report a bug regarding PVR stuff. 
Also choose the developer alwinus and the component unified-pvr.

Additionally, if you also want more casual feedback on these reports from
the German VDR community who is testing vnsiserver right now, please post
links to your Trac tickets on 
http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/board.php?boardid=95. You can post there in
English language, that's not a problem.

Cheers,
Henning

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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-12 Thread Goga777
also you can discuss with a devellopers on xbmc-pvr irc channel on freenode.net

the archive you can find here is
http://xbmc.newsforyou.com/xbmc-pvr



  I have been using pvr-testing and pvr-testing2 for a while now, and try
  to keep up to date.  However, I have two problems/questions which I want
  to either ask or flag to the developers but am unsure how to do it or
  even if it's a known issue?
 
 I guess the best thing is to report these issues one by one on the XBMC
 bugtracker:
 
 http://xbmc.org/trac/
 
 When you open new tickets, please use the prefix pvr-testing: when you
 report a bug regarding PVR stuff. 
 Also choose the developer alwinus and the component unified-pvr.
 
 Additionally, if you also want more casual feedback on these reports from
 the German VDR community who is testing vnsiserver right now, please post
 links to your Trac tickets on 
 http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/board.php?boardid=95. You can post there in
 English language, that's not a problem.

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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-12 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
Wish translators worked for that site. Created an account, but have to 
go through a translator site to read it and that breaks the login. Not 
that the translator works very well:


quasi as late Oster egg it gives nose fixed release of the Burn 
Plugins, in which larger and smaller errors are repaired. 


On 5/12/2010 7:24 AM, Henning Pingel wrote:


Am Mittwoch, den 12.05.2010, 15:27 +0200 schrieb Rob Davis
r...@davis-family.info:

Does anyone know where this is happening now?  I know the xbmc forum was
down for a while, but this discussion never seemed to happen again
afterwards.


Hello Rob,

Could you please specify in what kind of PVR discussion or what kind of
information you are interested?
I could point out a few threads to you but I'm confused about what you
want and why you ask here and not on the XBMC forum?

The whole vdr-plugin-vnsiserver discussion is IMHO taking place at
www.vdr-portal.de ATM.

Cheers,
Henning

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Re: [vdr] pvr-testing2 xbmc discussion

2010-05-12 Thread Eric Valette



In vnsiserver, ac3 spdif sound seems all mixed up.  ATSC here only uses
AC-3, but 5.1 sound only plays with Left and Right front speakers, so I
can't hear any dialogue.  On my HD-PVR, I get no sound at all, xbmc sees
an AC-3 stream, but the info page says 0 speakers?  However, the audio
settings while the stream is playing believes it to be a 5.1 audio track
(which it is..)

vnsiserver seems much better with the hdpvr as it doesn't start and stop
the stream three times like streamdev does..  (Big blue light flashes on
the hd-pvr box when it's being used.)

Streamdev will not display output correctly from my pvr500 card using
pvrinput.  It works with vnsi and obviously vdr-sxfe..


Well, on the other hand, streamdev works with eac3 not vnsserver. In 
france HD TV use eac3 for audio.


Sreamdev works thus better than vnsiserver for me .

--eric



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