Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Chuck, Sometimes these companies will send you a sample. For you gas tank problem a sample would probably be plenty. Good luck. Gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Good idea. That would be more than what I need. Chuck - Original Message - From: glw...@gundluth.org To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Chuck, Sometimes these companies will send you a sample. For you gas tank problem a sample would probably be plenty. Good luck. Gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2781 - Release Date: 03/31/10 01:32:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Chuck, MasterBond makes adhesive for just about any application including a lot for NASA. http://www.masterbond.com/sitesearch/mbsearch.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Gary: Thanks. They have a lot of products don't they?? Even if they don't have the thing I need to fix my boat, they have other things. For example, I just have a little bench top 9inch Craftsman bandsaw, and the table broke, right where it mounts. And YES, sears parts site DOES have a replacement.. For $50.99 LOL. Now, I'm a certified welder, but the table is made of pot metal, and I don't know of any way to weld that junk.. So,an epoxy may save me a bunch of money. Thanks again, Chuck - Original Message - From: glw...@gundluth.org To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Chuck, MasterBond makes adhesive for just about any application including a lot for NASA. http://www.masterbond.com/sitesearch/mbsearch.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2778 - Release Date: 03/29/10 13:32:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
I searched their site, and I have to contact them tomorrow to see about ordering, but they DO make products specially for polyethylene. Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - From: glw...@gundluth.org To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Chuck, MasterBond makes adhesive for just about any application including a lot for NASA. http://www.masterbond.com/sitesearch/mbsearch.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2778 - Release Date: 03/29/10 13:32:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2772 - Release Date: 03/26/10 14:33:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
W Hooo. I THINK I may have found a gas tank. I found a guy who has TWO Gamefisher 7.5 hp gas tanks for sale on ebay and they look identical to my 5hp tank. I have emailed him for the specs on his tanks so I can make sure they will interchange. Keep your fingers crossed for me cause I have been hunting this tank for a little over a YEAR now. Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2772 - Release Date: 03/26/10 14:33:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2772 - Release Date: 03/26/10 14:33:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
RE: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Joyce: You are one totally amazing person and I truly mean that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Westphal Sent: March 27, 2010 5:44 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Go to your autobody supply store and get a tube of Fusion, it is a methylmethacrylate that is used to weld cars. It is a bit pricey, but it will lay down a bead of superglue that will absolutely seal around your hole. We used it to totally fix the rusted area around the 1982 Datsun windshield, welded in little preformed metal pieces and it holds wonderfully and doesn't leak. You can get either the fast or slow kind. The fast sets up absolutely in five minutes, the slower in around 15. Be sure to wear gloves because you don't want to get it on your fingers. If you accidently do get some on your fingers, it will come off it you wipe it immediately with alcohol ..supposedly. We had to let ours wear off. We also welded cab corners and truck bed corners with this stuff. In our autobody class we learned that it is actually stronger than a true weld on metal and plastic. It comes in about 10 cc size or larger, has a self mixing spout and works absolutely wonderfully. Hope this helps. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfishflyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:45 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+ unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2772 - Release Date: 03/26/10 14:33:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Joyce: Thanks a lot. I'll give it a try for sure, Chuck - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Go to your autobody supply store and get a tube of Fusion, it is a methylmethacrylate that is used to weld cars. It is a bit pricey, but it will lay down a bead of superglue that will absolutely seal around your hole. We used it to totally fix the rusted area around the 1982 Datsun windshield, welded in little preformed metal pieces and it holds wonderfully and doesn't leak. You can get either the fast or slow kind. The fast sets up absolutely in five minutes, the slower in around 15. Be sure to wear gloves because you don't want to get it on your fingers. If you accidently do get some on your fingers, it will come off it you wipe it immediately with alcohol ..supposedly. We had to let ours wear off. We also welded cab corners and truck bed corners with this stuff. In our autobody class we learned that it is actually stronger than a true weld on metal and plastic. It comes in about 10 cc size or larger, has a self mixing spout and works absolutely wonderfully. Hope this helps. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2773 - Release Date: 03/27/10 02:32:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
Joyce: I can't seem to find this stuff on any of the parts house websites. Are you sure it will weld polyethylene plastics?? That's what the tank is, and I have yet to find an epoxy or glue that is made for this type plastic. Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Go to your autobody supply store and get a tube of Fusion, it is a methylmethacrylate that is used to weld cars. It is a bit pricey, but it will lay down a bead of superglue that will absolutely seal around your hole. We used it to totally fix the rusted area around the 1982 Datsun windshield, welded in little preformed metal pieces and it holds wonderfully and doesn't leak. You can get either the fast or slow kind. The fast sets up absolutely in five minutes, the slower in around 15. Be sure to wear gloves because you don't want to get it on your fingers. If you accidently do get some on your fingers, it will come off it you wipe it immediately with alcohol ..supposedly. We had to let ours wear off. We also welded cab corners and truck bed corners with this stuff. In our autobody class we learned that it is actually stronger than a true weld on metal and plastic. It comes in about 10 cc size or larger, has a self mixing spout and works absolutely wonderfully. Hope this helps. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2773 - Release Date: 03/27/10 02:32:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Thanks.. Yeah, it does have the vented gas cap.. I just wasn't sure if it worked off vacuum, or fuel pump, or what.. Chuck - Original Message - From: charles connell To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2772 - Release Date: 03/26/10 14
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Chuck I have used something called Seals all purchased at bWally world and sealed the gas tank on my truck and oil pan on another car the car is still holding. Another way is to solder it using a iron that has to be heated on a gas stove. hope this helps. John - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Thanks.. Yeah, it does have the vented gas cap.. I just wasn't sure if it worked off vacuum, or fuel pump, or what.. Chuck - Original Message - From: charles connell To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Chuck, the material looks and sounds like what they make holding tanks for campers out of, and there is a sealant for those, found at shops that carry camping stuff, or sell RV's, think of Camping world, also Wally world has a section near automotive for this stuff. Our fishing camp is a Winnebago, and you do have to be handy with one of them, as most shops charge 125 a hour! But, all those tanks have to be environmentally safe lest a poop fall on the ground, or gosh gray water from a shower. Peggy Chuck Alexander wrote: John: Thanks.. Problem is, I have read every label on every product at Wal mart and they all say will not bond to polyethylene (I think that's what it's called) plastic which is what this is. It's the same stuff they make the plastic putty knives and bondo scrapers and fiberglass scrapers for that very reason. NOTHING will stick to it.. Unless there is a product I don't know about . I have just about convinced myself to be safe and just go with an external tank.. But I'd still like to get the on board tank either fixed or replaced. here's the little hole I tried to pop rivet, but like I said, the gas leaked out slowly, and the plug wire runs right under this hole and all I need is one wild spark LOL..Ka Blooey Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* John Lent mailto:pbun...@myfairpoint.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:47 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck I have used something called Seals all purchased at bWally world and sealed the gas tank on my truck and oil pan on another car the car is still holding. Another way is to solder it using a iron that has to be heated on a gas stove. hope this helps. John - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:48 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Thanks.. Yeah, it does have the vented gas cap.. I just wasn't sure if it worked off vacuum, or fuel pump, or what.. Chuck - Original Message - *From:* charles connell mailto:chuckc...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
How about those tyre repair kits??? It is possible to get these little emergency motorcycle/car tyre kits that have these plugs you put in and tighten, such that it clamps and seals from both sides. It is almost like a rivet.One option would be a rubber plug (Ie Emergency tubeless tyre repair kit http://www.gondwanaonline.com.au/prod82.htm) but a safer option would be the clamp sliding in both sides at once. Get it froma motorcycle store (dirt bikes mainly). R Chuck Alexander wrote: John: Thanks.. Problem is, I have read every label on every product at Wal mart and they all say will not bond to polyethylene (I think that's what it's called) plastic which is what this is. It's the same stuff they make the plastic putty knives and bondo scrapers and fiberglass scrapers for that very reason. NOTHING will stick to it.. Unless there is a product I don't know about . I have just about convinced myself to be safe and just go with an external tank.. But I'd still like to get the on board tank either fixed or replaced. here's the little hole I tried to pop rivet, but like I said, the gas leaked out slowly, and the plug wire runs right under this hole and all I need is one wild spark LOL..Ka Blooey Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* John Lent mailto:pbun...@myfairpoint.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:47 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck I have used something called Seals all purchased at bWally world and sealed the gas tank on my truck and oil pan on another car the car is still holding. Another way is to solder it using a iron that has to be heated on a gas stove. hope this helps. John - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:48 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Thanks.. Yeah, it does have the vented gas cap.. I just wasn't sure if it worked off vacuum, or fuel pump, or what.. Chuck - Original Message - *From:* charles connell mailto:chuckc...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just pump the bulb until the gas tank is pressurized, and then when the pressure dies down, pump it up some more??? I think that's how these type tanks work I know that may sound like a stupid question, but like I said, it's been 25 years since I even had a gas motor except for one little 2hp Yamaha motor that was on my boat when I got it, but it had the on board tank and the motor sucked so I sold it. Thanks a lot and don't laff too hard LOL, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net *To:* vfb-mail
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It will weld anything. There is a type that is made for the polyethylenes which are what is used in bumpers..look for that. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: Joyce: I can't seem to find this stuff on any of the parts house websites. Are you sure it will weld polyethylene plastics?? That's what the tank is, and I have yet to find an epoxy or glue that is made for this type plastic. Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Go to your autobody supply store and get a tube of Fusion, it is a *methylmethacrylate that is used to weld cars. It is a bit pricey, but it will lay down a bead of superglue that will absolutely seal around your hole. We used it to totally fix the rusted area around the 1982 Datsun windshield, welded in little preformed metal pieces and it holds wonderfully and doesn't leak. You can get either the fast or slow kind. The fast sets up absolutely in five minutes, the slower in around 15. Be sure to wear gloves because you don't want to get it on your fingers. If you accidently do get some on your fingers, it will come off it you wipe it immediately with alcohol ..supposedly. We had to let ours wear off. We also welded cab corners and truck bed corners with this stuff. In our autobody class we learned that it is actually stronger than a true weld on metal and plastic. It comes in about 10 cc size or larger, has a self mixing spout and works absolutely wonderfully. Hope this helps. Joyce* On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+ unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+ unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2773 - Release Date: 03/27/10 02:32:00 -- You
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http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MAutomotive/Aftermarket/Solutions/Mobile_Repair/Plastic_Repair/Bumper/ http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MAutomotive/Aftermarket/Solutions/Mobile_Repair/Plastic_Repair/Bumper/Check it out here..it has a different name but you can see what this is. There is also a polyethylene welding rod which you can melt and repair polyethlylene. I found that by doing a google search for polyethylene bumper repair. Hope this helps. They weld polyethylene bumpers in car class using the welding rod all the time. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: Joyce: I can't seem to find this stuff on any of the parts house websites. Are you sure it will weld polyethylene plastics?? That's what the tank is, and I have yet to find an epoxy or glue that is made for this type plastic. Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Go to your autobody supply store and get a tube of Fusion, it is a *methylmethacrylate that is used to weld cars. It is a bit pricey, but it will lay down a bead of superglue that will absolutely seal around your hole. We used it to totally fix the rusted area around the 1982 Datsun windshield, welded in little preformed metal pieces and it holds wonderfully and doesn't leak. You can get either the fast or slow kind. The fast sets up absolutely in five minutes, the slower in around 15. Be sure to wear gloves because you don't want to get it on your fingers. If you accidently do get some on your fingers, it will come off it you wipe it immediately with alcohol ..supposedly. We had to let ours wear off. We also welded cab corners and truck bed corners with this stuff. In our autobody class we learned that it is actually stronger than a true weld on metal and plastic. It comes in about 10 cc size or larger, has a self mixing spout and works absolutely wonderfully. Hope this helps. Joyce* On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+ unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Peggy: great idea, cause I think that's EXACTLY the same type of plastic. I found a new tank from Sears, but it's $43 plus shipping. I could probably get a tube of that sealant for less than $10. My wife and I have been talking about hopefully getting this thing going, cause what we used to do when I had my other boat is , we'd jug fish for catfish cause like any Southern boy, I LOVE Fried Catfish. We'd set out our 10-12 jugs, then go fishing with rod and reel while we waiting for the jugs to catch some fish (hopefully), but now, instead of spinning reels, it will be fly rods and reels LOL Chuck - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck, the material looks and sounds like what they make holding tanks for campers out of, and there is a sealant for those, found at shops that carry camping stuff, or sell RV's, think of Camping world, also Wally world has a section near automotive for this stuff. Our fishing camp is a Winnebago, and you do have to be handy with one of them, as most shops charge 125 a hour! But, all those tanks have to be environmentally safe lest a poop fall on the ground, or gosh gray water from a shower. Peggy Chuck Alexander wrote: John: Thanks.. Problem is, I have read every label on every product at Wal mart and they all say will not bond to polyethylene (I think that's what it's called) plastic which is what this is. It's the same stuff they make the plastic putty knives and bondo scrapers and fiberglass scrapers for that very reason. NOTHING will stick to it.. Unless there is a product I don't know about . I have just about convinced myself to be safe and just go with an external tank.. But I'd still like to get the on board tank either fixed or replaced. here's the little hole I tried to pop rivet, but like I said, the gas leaked out slowly, and the plug wire runs right under this hole and all I need is one wild spark LOL..Ka Blooey Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* John Lent mailto:pbun...@myfairpoint.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:47 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck I have used something called Seals all purchased at bWally world and sealed the gas tank on my truck and oil pan on another car the car is still holding. Another way is to solder it using a iron that has to be heated on a gas stove. hope this helps. John - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:48 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Thanks.. Yeah, it does have the vented gas cap.. I just wasn't sure if it worked off vacuum, or fuel pump, or what.. Chuck - Original Message - *From:* charles connell mailto:chuckc...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook up and run that??? It's been s long since I used a gas boat motor I have forgotten how these things work. Since the gas tank will sit in the bottom of the boat, do you just
Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/ORRRRRRRRR
Reuven: A cpl of those plugs might just work if the glue stuff on them is petroleum proof. And I have one of those kits that I keep in my vans for nail holes on the road. I may give it a try. Won't hurt to try. My thing is, I cannot get to the back side, cause the hole is right at the bottom of the tank, so I can't reach the inside. That's what I was trying to do when I used the rivet . I put a petroleum resistant washer on the inside of the head of the rivet. And I tried to use my real long needle nosed pliers to put another rubber washer on the inside BEFORE I popped the rivet. But the pliers were too short to reach. If I use any type glue, plug, epoxy etc it MUST hold, cause the spark plug wire and end goes right under that hole and all I need is for one wild spark plug wire to arc and there she goes up in flames, Chuck - Original Message - From: Reuven Segal reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR How about those tyre repair kits??? It is possible to get these little emergency motorcycle/car tyre kits that have these plugs you put in and tighten, such that it clamps and seals from both sides. It is almost like a rivet.One option would be a rubber plug (Ie Emergency tubeless tyre repair kit http://www.gondwanaonline.com.au/prod82.htm) but a safer option would be the clamp sliding in both sides at once. Get it froma motorcycle store (dirt bikes mainly). R Chuck Alexander wrote: John: Thanks.. Problem is, I have read every label on every product at Wal mart and they all say will not bond to polyethylene (I think that's what it's called) plastic which is what this is. It's the same stuff they make the plastic putty knives and bondo scrapers and fiberglass scrapers for that very reason. NOTHING will stick to it.. Unless there is a product I don't know about . I have just about convinced myself to be safe and just go with an external tank.. But I'd still like to get the on board tank either fixed or replaced. here's the little hole I tried to pop rivet, but like I said, the gas leaked out slowly, and the plug wire runs right under this hole and all I need is one wild spark LOL..Ka Blooey Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* John Lent mailto:pbun...@myfairpoint.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:47 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck I have used something called Seals all purchased at bWally world and sealed the gas tank on my truck and oil pan on another car the car is still holding. Another way is to solder it using a iron that has to be heated on a gas stove. hope this helps. John - Original Message - *From:* Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:48 PM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Thanks.. Yeah, it does have the vented gas cap.. I just wasn't sure if it worked off vacuum, or fuel pump, or what.. Chuck - Original Message - *From:* charles connell mailto:chuckc...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: Fw: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed/OR Chuck being vented means there is a little screw in the top of fill cap. You screw in down to seal tank when not being used loosen when running motor. You squeeze the bulb in line until hard start you,r motor and away you go you don't have to squeeze the bulb any more it will set up a vaccuum Chuck Connell On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: It just dawned on me. I was looking up these external tanks and it says they are vented. So, does that mean that instead of that bulb pressurizing the tank, that it is just a primer to get the boat motor going, and then the boat motor's vacuum takes over to siphon the gas from the tank to the carburetor??? I need a lesson in boat motor fuel systems 101 LOL, Chuck Or. Can I just go and buy a 3 or 6 gallon boat gas tank (the red ones with the pump up bulb in the line), hook this to the 'male nipple end where the fuel line from the built in gas tank used to hook
Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed
I'll look for it. Many times I go on the web sites of the parts houses and then I actually go to the store and see things they were not listed on their site. Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed It will weld anything. There is a type that is made for the polyethylenes which are what is used in bumpers..look for that. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Joyce: I can't seem to find this stuff on any of the parts house websites. Are you sure it will weld polyethylene plastics?? That's what the tank is, and I have yet to find an epoxy or glue that is made for this type plastic. Thanks, Chuck - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Gamefisher Outboard gas tank needed Go to your autobody supply store and get a tube of Fusion, it is a methylmethacrylate that is used to weld cars. It is a bit pricey, but it will lay down a bead of superglue that will absolutely seal around your hole. We used it to totally fix the rusted area around the 1982 Datsun windshield, welded in little preformed metal pieces and it holds wonderfully and doesn't leak. You can get either the fast or slow kind. The fast sets up absolutely in five minutes, the slower in around 15. Be sure to wear gloves because you don't want to get it on your fingers. If you accidently do get some on your fingers, it will come off it you wipe it immediately with alcohol ..supposedly. We had to let ours wear off. We also welded cab corners and truck bed corners with this stuff. In our autobody class we learned that it is actually stronger than a true weld on metal and plastic. It comes in about 10 cc size or larger, has a self mixing spout and works absolutely wonderfully. Hope this helps. Joyce On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I found a Gamefisher 5hp outboard last year in a local buy/sell paper. Well, the guy wanted $125 for it, which wasn't bad. I got over there, and due to a bad design, one of the bolt heads that holds the cooling cowling on, had rubbed a tiny hole in the (plastic) gas tank. Well, it ran great, but had this problem. So, the guy knocked it down to $75. I almost snatched his arm off LOL..cause that's dirt cheap around here. Well, my master plan was to fix the little 1/8 hole by taking a big pop rivet, putting an petroleum resistant rubber washer on the pop rivet, then rivet it in. Worked great. BUT, I forgot about the tiny gap between the rivet's body and the pin, so it still leaks a little. Well, it just so happens that the leak is very close to the head and I don't want to set the thing on fire. SO, does anybody know of anybody that deals in these type boat parts??? If so, I can provide you with all the make, model serial number etc ect. It's (I think) an early to mid 1980's motor. And this particular type plastic, I have tried every type glue, or epoxy there is, buyt nothing will stick to this stuff. I was just gonna take the rivet out, get a large screw with course threads and tap it into the hole, but I'm afraid it will vibrate lose and fall out sooner or later (sooner in my case with my luck LOL). Anyway, I have searched ebay, Craig's list, the internet and can't seem to find a gas tank. I know they made a LOT of these motors, and probably a Sears, Ted Williams, or a game Fisher either one should work cause they're all the same I think. Thanks a lot.. I'll even pay you a bird dog fee. I was just watching You Tube videos and these little motors really haul butt to be as small as they are and I'd like to do some fishing in the river this year. Thanks, Chuck See our furled leader auctions on ebay at http://shop.ebay.com/you_wear_it_well/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
