[videoblogging] Re: another vlogging article
it's gotta be czechoslovakian, cause of the .cz tag on the url. anyone here speak czech? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone please translate this for me (and the others mentioned in the article) I really dont have any knowledge of the language... http://www.zive.cz/h/Uzivatel/AR.asp?ARI=124994 looks nice though! -- Josh Leo www.joshleo.com http://www.joshleo.com www.stonefarm.blogspot.com http://www.stonefarm.blogspot.com www.joshspicks.blogspot.com http://www.joshspicks.blogspot.com www.wearethemedia.com http://www.wearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Mefeedia site currently broken
Hey all, www.mefeedia.com has been down quite a lot lately. I know very well that Peter is working on it and there is no need to worry, but still: I hope mefeedia gets back up Soon. I want to get addicted to quoting, and experimenting with that further. On another note, Peter, isn't it true that you mefeedia would welcome more volunteer coders? I am not a coder myself, so I cannot help out in that way, but maybe someone else on this list would like to help out in the creation of 'bloglines for video'? I guess Peter also would accept donations towards buying coder time, if anyone have any $ hanging around, but I guess it is up to Peter to confirm whether that is actually the case :) In either case: I am really excited about the recent upgrades of mefeedia, and I look both forward to the site working again, and future versions. Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen http://dltq.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlog | SoHo | NYC -- #2
And Josh K. did show the whole intro freevlog video. I think, for future presentations, a little more time can be spent emphasizing how awesome, amazing, and useful freevlog is, Right. I opened my 5 minutes by emphasising how important and fucking cool videoblogging is, then showed a few things on mefeedia, then closed with reminding everyone and the newcomers to visit freevlog, the best site ever :) Peter SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Mefeedia site currently broken
www.mefeedia.com has been down quite a lot lately. It's been down yesterday and today, a stupid problem with the host. I'm sure it'll be back today. I wouldn't say down quite a lot, on the contrary, and damn fast too, since I switched to Dreamhost :) On another note, Peter, isn't it true that you mefeedia would welcome more volunteer coders? I am not a coder myself, so I cannot help out in that way, but maybe someone else on this list would like to help out in the creation of 'bloglines for video'? I guess Peter also would accept donations towards buying coder time, if anyone have any $ hanging around, but I guess it is up to Peter to confirm whether that is actually the case :) I am looking for coders, that's true. I'm going to put some of my own cash towards that.. If anyone knows/is a real good PHP/Mysql person who wants to work on this, let's talk! Thanks Raymond :) Peter SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Method TV now in iTunes
Hello, Shimadragon and everyone else, You don't know me... I'm new to videoblogging and just recently joined the group. I'm curious, how did you hook up the iTunes situation? Peace, ED i think you must go to the music store and just enter the info. anyone have details? jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Method TV now in iTunes
I have a small write up on vlogging and iTunes at:http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/07/27/vlog.htmlThe "Informing iTunes" section is on page 2.- joshOn Aug 1, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Jay dedman wrote: Hello, Shimadragon and everyone else, You don't know me... I'm new to videoblogging and just recently joined the group. I'm curious, how did you hook up the iTunes situation? Peace, ED i think you must go to the music store and just enter the info. anyone have details? jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlog | SoHo | NYC -- #2
Right. I opened my 5 minutes by emphasising how important and fucking cool videoblogging is, then showed a few things on mefeedia, then closed with reminding everyone and the newcomers to visit freevlog, the best site ever :) we have made plans to present again at the Soho Apple store the last saturday of August and September. so everyone did a great job. the videoblogging presenation at the apple store in San franscisco was a huge success as well. jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlog | SoHo | NYC -- #2
Is there anyone in LA that would like to help present on September 10th?- joshOn Aug 1, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Jay dedman wrote: Right. I opened my 5 minutes by emphasising how important and fucking cool videoblogging is, then showed a few things on mefeedia, then closed with reminding everyone and the newcomers to visit freevlog, the best site ever :) we have made plans to present again at the Soho Apple store the last saturday of August and September. so everyone did a great job. the videoblogging presenation at the apple store in San franscisco was a huge success as well. jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Meanwhile, elsewhere
Nathan Peters is now a modern single dad without his children. His three adorable children are taken away by social security. I hate to sound stupid but: Does anyone here living in Canada or elsewhere know how Nathan is doing? His last post was from 28th. I really think we as a community need to look after each other a bit. Not just when Chuck and Michael get harassed by someone, but also - yeah - check up on each other. Be a friendly vlogger neighbourhood, or something. nathan took a break from this list several weeks ago becasue he said he spent too much time here. so please email/comment to him directly. i emailed with him this weekend. his oldest son went to live with his ex-wife. he still has his other two kids. the latest videos are not real. normally i woulnt spoil people's fun...but i dont want people to worry about a pretty serious issue. jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Los Angeles VBloggers - We Need To Represent!
Come on folks - NY has done it and is planning to do it again. SF has done it. We need to do presentation at an Apple store - I have two in my area or any place elese that will have us. If we are PC users I think we could hang a shingle at a local library meeting room. I can't be the only video blogger from the Los Angeles area. I'm willing to step up and organize but I really don't want to do the litle red hen thing. I know there are others here, I can feel the force. Pasadena? Valley bloggers? Downtown LA - talk to me and lets get this party started. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlog | SoHo | NYC -- #2
Yes! Sorry I just posted about the same thing and then notice your message. We have to. We must. Give me the details and let's move forward. Is there anyone in LA that would like to help present on September 10th? - josh SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlog | SoHo | NYC -- #2
Awesome! we have made plans to present again at the Soho Apple store the last saturday of August and September. so everyone did a great job. the videoblogging presenation at the apple store in San franscisco was a huge success as well. jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] contributing video tutorials to freevlog?
I was wondering if freevlog folk will accept video tutorials from other contributors? or take requests? -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] contributing video tutorials to freevlog?
who are the media? WE are Didn't hear you: Who are the media? WE ARE!!! *** Make those tutorials, and then freevlog (incorporated, copyrighted and ™ ;)) will see if they like it and will use it. If nothing else, they could link to your tutorial on a FAQ list or something :) just my take on it :) Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen On 8/1/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if freevlog folk will accept video tutorials from other contributors? or take requests? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hvprhk3/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122919414/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job) Welcome to the Sweet Life - brought to you by One Economy/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] 2 new interesting articles in NYTimes
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/01/technology/01video.html? talks about the new emerging Internet Video market. http://nytimes.com/2005/08/01/technology/01file.html P2P file sharing topics and legalities Ian Clarke, the guy behind Freenet and Dijjer (dijjer.org), a technology I have been promoting here on the list, is featured and talks about a new P2P project he is working on. JD Lasica is also cited in regards to Darknets.-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Los Angeles VBloggers - We Need To Represent!
count me in - one hour north of LA in Ventura anti is in LA Area. So is zadi (she did a GREAT job getting the SF audiance fired up) arron is in Orange County Gena wrote: Come on folks - NY has done it and is planning to do it again. SF has done it. We need to do presentation at an Apple store - I have two in my area or any place elese that will have us. If we are PC users I think we could hang a shingle at a local library meeting room. I can't be the only video blogger from the Los Angeles area. I'm willing to step up and organize but I really don't want to do the litle red hen thing. I know there are others here, I can feel the force. Pasadena? Valley bloggers? Downtown LA - talk to me and lets get this party started. Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Los Angeles VBloggers - We Need To Represent!
Annie is in LA too. Depending on when you do it, Kenyatta Cheese from unmediated.org may be out that way too... He's an excellent speaker on the subject. -josh On 8/1/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: count me in - one hour north of LA in Ventura anti is in LA Area. So is zadi (she did a GREAT job getting the SF audiance fired up) arron is in Orange County Gena wrote: Come on folks - NY has done it and is planning to do it again. SF has done it. We need to do presentation at an Apple store - I have two in my area or any place elese that will have us. If we are PC users I think we could hang a shingle at a local library meeting room. I can't be the only video blogger from the Los Angeles area. I'm willing to step up and organize but I really don't want to do the litle red hen thing. I know there are others here, I can feel the force. Pasadena? Valley bloggers? Downtown LA - talk to me and lets get this party started. Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlog | SoHo | NYC -- #2
i would like to participate Joshua Paul wrote: Is there anyone in LA that would like to help present on September 10th? - josh On Aug 1, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Jay dedman wrote: Right. I opened my 5 minutes by emphasising how important and fucking cool videoblogging is, then showed a few things on mefeedia, then closed with reminding everyone and the newcomers to visit freevlog, the best site ever :) we have made plans to present again at the Soho Apple store the last saturday of August and September. so everyone did a great job. the videoblogging presenation at the apple store in San franscisco was a huge success as well. jay -- URL: http://www.momentshowing.net Adventures in Videoblogging YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Checking RSS feeds
Checking RSS feeds just got easier. A long time ago Clint sent me some great code to use on vb.info, but I only got it implemented now. Go to: URL: http://www.videoblogging.info/tools/checkfeed/ There you can enter the URL of an RSS feed. The script will then check: - If the feed is valid. - If it contains any enclosures. - If the *first* enclosure is a video file. Hopefully this will cut down on time spent on troubleshooting. Thank you Clint! - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] the world is flat!!
This!!! This makes the world flat!! so flat!! view japan... www.bicycle-sidewalk.com yoroshiku baby! SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Los Angeles VBloggers - We Need To Represent!
there's an apple store in Manhattan beach, i'm all over it like a first grader on a slurpee. On 8/1/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Annie is in LA too. Depending on when you do it, Kenyatta Cheese from unmediated.org may be out that way too... He's an excellent speaker on the subject. -josh On 8/1/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: count me in - one hour north of LA in Ventura anti is in LA Area. So is zadi (she did a GREAT job getting the SF audiance fired up) arron is in Orange County Gena wrote: Come on folks - NY has done it and is planning to do it again. SF has done it. We need to do presentation at an Apple store - I have two in my area or any place elese that will have us. If we are PC users I think we could hang a shingle at a local library meeting room. I can't be the only video blogger from the Los Angeles area. I'm willing to step up and organize but I really don't want to do the litle red hen thing. I know there are others here, I can feel the force. Pasadena? Valley bloggers? Downtown LA - talk to me and lets get this party started. Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://antidisestablishmentarian.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Checking RSS feeds
nice. btw, any updates on that mediafeedr thingie?On 8/1/05, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checking RSS feeds just got easier. A long time ago Clint sent me somegreat code to use on vb.info, but I only got it implemented now.Go to: URL: http://www.videoblogging.info/tools/checkfeed/ There you can enter the URL of an RSS feed. The script will then check: - If the feed is valid.- If it contains any enclosures.- If the *first* enclosure is a video file.Hopefully this will cut down on time spent on troubleshooting.Thank you Clint! - Andreas--URL:http://www.solitude.dk/Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href="" href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hr8bi6j/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122924416/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org"> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hr8bi6j/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122924416/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.orgGet Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job) Welcome to the Sweet Life -brought to you by One Economy/a./font~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Checking RSS feeds
i understand completely. 'stay tuned, always' sullOn 8/1/05, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: nice. btw, any updates on that mediafeedr thingie?Laziness.This is why I am not destined to be a professional coder,because I'm way too lazy and tend to not finish things that don't have quick turnaround times.I'll try to work on it this week.Problem is,once I get interested in it again I won't be able to stop working onit... No easy solution :).Clint--Clint SharpNew Media Guy Technologist ClintSharp.comContact Info: http://clintsharp.com/contact/We are the media. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href="" href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgbrt7o/M=362329.6886308.7839368.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122925852/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992"> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgbrt7o/M=362329.6886308.7839368.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122925852/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!/a./font ~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directoryhttp://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: D.C. Vlog Event
Hey! If you're in the area get on the Vlogmap! http://www.vlogmap.org/ DC represent!! This should be fun... :)leslye On 8/1/05, strollingbones2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein Let me know. Eric strollingbones2 at yahoo http://strollingbones.blogspot.com -- http://www.phatalspin.com/vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Internet TV is almost here... preview version of DTV, coming August 9
Hi everyone, This is Tiffiniy Cheng from Participatory Culture here. Just wanted to say that we're really glad this forum exists -- videoblogging is helping to push media into a more democratic direction, which is amazing and we're excited to follow in the footsteps of your work. We think it is really important to make the tools that help videoblogging explode as soon as possible because we think it is extremely important to make internet television as open and accessible as soon as possible. And videoblogging can be as easy as blogging pretty soon. And we all know what that means. We'll be releasing the Mac beta version in a little over a week (http:// www.participatoryculture.org/hype). It should be a pretty good demonstration of the platform, but it is still just a beta and does not have all the things we want in there. One of these things is a well-designed interface and that's why we're holding a design contest too (http://www.participatoryculture.org/contest -- $1000 for winning design interface, $300 for logo, $200 for winning referral via blog or word of mouth) and hopefully we'll be on track to making something that can support and enhance your videoblogs. Please be critical of the Mac Beta, but also remember that it's not quite done. We're really excited to have a full Windows and Mac launch soon, any help or comments are much appreciated. Updates coming soon. Hope to talk to you all soon. Tiffiniy www.participatoryculture.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Thomas G Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you didn't know... now you know... That world she is a turnin'... Turn, Baby, Turn! On 28 Jul 2005 15:42:18 -, David Moore :: Participatory Culture [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Today, Participatory Culture is announcing a 12-day countdown until the release of a preview beta version of DTV for Mac OS X. On August 9th, our free and open-source internet TV player DTV will be available for download, for Mac OS X at first, with a PC version soon thereafter. See why people like Cory Doctorow of BoingBoing.net are saying, The revolution will indeed be televised, it seems... on our new hype page :: http://participatoryculture.org/hype/ Read some of our recent press blog coverage, and follow along with the countdown to the release of the Mac preview version on August 9th. Later on, we will have a full launch of both the Mac and Windows beta versions of DTV but for now, we're really excited about getting the Mac version off the ground and can't wait to hear your feedback. There's a world of amazing independent video out there and now there's an easy way to watch it. DTV is bringing internet TV to the fullscreen -- lean back and enjoy. Browse the built-in channel guide, subscribe to channels, videos download in the background, and DTV notifies you when they're ready to watch. Internet TV should be open-source and based on open standards, just like blogging and podcasting. We're working to ensure that the new mass medium of internet TV is free, accessible to all, and built with independent voices. So please help us spread the word by blogging about our new HYPE page, and check back in 12 days to try out DTV... it's going to be super glue. Here we go... http://participatoryculture.org/hype/ Thanks, Matt Brett Tiffiniy Cheng Luc Heinrich Colin Mitchell David Moore Nick Nassar Nicholas Reville Geoff Schmidt Holmes Wilson p.s. We've extended the deadline of our design contest to August 16th. Our code is open-source and we want our graphic design to be as well. You could win $1000 for your work on the DTV user interface, $300 for your work on a DTV logo or icon, and $200 just for referring the designer whose work we use. For more information and how to submit your design ideas, please visit http://participatoryculture.org/contest/ . For more information about the PCF internet TV platform, please contact David Moore at : [EMAIL PROTECTED] , phone: (603) 661-3968. http://participatoryculture.org/ -- Powered by PHPlist, www.phplist.com http://www.phplist.com -- -- -- Thomas G Henry Fax n Phone: 845.516.0005 http://ValleyVlog.blogspot.com :: CABAREt VOLTROn :: INDIe80sELECTRoPUNkDISCoPARTy EVERY 4TH SATURDAY (of the month) ...7/23.8/27.9/24.10/22... www.LucidFluid.com http://www.LucidFluid.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] [RSS] Feed is too long?!
RSS is not an archive format. It is used to provide recent updates to your site. This often means that it contains something like the most recent 15-30 entries on your weblog. As for the description elements, yes you can include the full text of your entries there. -Josh On 8/1/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I was hoping someone could help me with some RSS feeds questions. I create my own feeds (as opposed to using blogger/feedburner) and I was told by the technorati support people that my feed was too long for them to index. Now I'm wondering if I've made some non-stnadard or otherwise poor choices about my rss feed. (To try and get the feed working in technorati, I changed the 'description' element to contain only the item title. It's still not working with Technorati but it did cut the file size of my blog feed by quite alot.) Anyway, can someone give me some guidance on the following: 1) Should I not index all my blogs in my feed? For example should I make my feed detail only the latest 20 posts or something? How would this effect rss readers such as Thunderbird or Fireant? 2) Is it not typical to include the blog post in the description? 3) My site is pretty low traffic ... if MY feed is too big for indexes like technorati to work with ... how do larger sites with hundreds and hundreds of posts manage? The feed they were talking about was: http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post_archive.php?tag=Blogfeed=RSS2.0 Thanks, Dave http://www.davidmeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] [RSS] Feed is too long?!
David Meade wrote: Hi all. I was hoping someone could help me with some RSS feeds questions. I create my own feeds (as opposed to using blogger/feedburner) and I was told by the technorati support people that my feed was too long for them to index. Now I'm wondering if I've made some non-stnadard or otherwise poor choices about my rss feed. (To try and get the feed working in technorati, I changed the 'description' element to contain only the item title. It's still not working with Technorati but it did cut the file size of my blog feed by quite alot.) Anyway, can someone give me some guidance on the following: 1) Should I not index all my blogs in my feed? For example should I make my feed detail only the latest 20 posts or something? How would this effect rss readers such as Thunderbird or Fireant? 2) Is it not typical to include the blog post in the description? 3) My site is pretty low traffic ... if MY feed is too big for indexes like technorati to work with ... how do larger sites with hundreds and hundreds of posts manage? The feed they were talking about was: http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post_archive.php?tag=Blogfeed=RSS2.0 http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post_archive.php?tag=Blogfeed=RSS2.0 Thanks, Dave http://www.davidmeade.com Wow, dude. That feed is fucking huge. I think you've missed the entire point of RSS. Have you used an RSS Aggregator? Check out Bloglines (http://bloglines.com/). Also, check out other people's RSS feeds for examples (there's generally a link on the main page of the blog). RSS is a mechanism of distributing information about new updates to a site (with the number of posts arbitrarily picked by the publisher, but the idea being it should be up to the number of posts a person wouldn't have seen if they hadn't checked your site in a day or two). You've got stuff going back to 2002. I limit mine to the last 20 posts, including full text of the postings in the content:encoded tag. Clint -- Clint Sharp New Media Guy Technologist ClintSharp.com Contact Info: http://clintsharp.com/contact/ We are the media. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: [RSS] Feed is too long?!
Thanks guys ... I've fixed it. :-) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RSS is not an archive format. It is used to provide recent updates to your site. This often means that it contains something like the most recent 15-30 entries on your weblog. As for the description elements, yes you can include the full text of your entries there. Thanks, Josh. I knew it wasn't meant to archive ... I just ... failed to make is something other than that :-P --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, dude. That feed is fucking huge. I think you've missed the entire point of RSS. So I've heard. :-P No, I haven't missed the entire point - my goal was to allow for subscriptions ... I just implimented it poorly. Have you used an RSS Aggregator? Check out Bloglines (http://bloglines.com/). Yeah, I have and my feeds have always worked in them. My feed validated ... I just failed to realize it wasnt required to provide a fuller listing. RSS is a mechanism of distributing information about new updates to a site (with the number of posts arbitrarily picked by the publisher, Sweet. The last part there was the part I was missing. I just followed the structure as defined on the web how-to I had when building my feed. Unfortunately it didnt say typically you should limit the feed to 10-20 posts ... and so I didnt. :-P I limit mine to the last 20 posts, including full text of the postings in the content:encoded tag. Excellent thanks! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] wtf...Cheryl spam?
Anyone else get an email from Cheryl Shuman about her 'Welcome to The In Crowd TV...' vlog? -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com http://devlon.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] wtf...Cheryl spam?
Devlon wrote: Anyone else get an email from Cheryl Shuman about her 'Welcome to The In Crowd TV...' vlog? Not me. You must be on her whitelist. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. begin:vcard fn:Charles HOPE n:HOPE;Charles org:Pokkari adr;dom:;;;Brooklyn;NY email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Partner / Developer note:http://www.blip.tv x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.pokkari.tv version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [videoblogging] wtf...Cheryl spam?
Lucky me, thanks Charles. On 8/1/05, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon wrote: Anyone else get an email from Cheryl Shuman about her 'Welcome to The In Crowd TV...' vlog? Not me. You must be on her whitelist. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com http://devlon.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Press kits collection, anyone?
Hey all, Something struck me while watching the vlog entry where Ryanne showed the two-sided handout that she would give to people at Blogher: I want to read that! I want to see the material we give out to prospective vloggers in NYC, or San Francisco, or Washington DC, or Amsterdam, or Bergen, Beijing or Sydney. I want to be able to put together a presentation for instance the Apple store here in Bergen without having to re-invent the wheel. I might have missed out on some site out there, but I don't think there are any collections of material like this (I still keep my brochure/handout from the Vloggercon back in January (feels like ages ago..)), and where we can download pdf-files to use in our own event or tweak to our own use. I would love to see such a site. Can't we agree that whenever you do a presentation at a conference, meetup or whatnot, then you post some of that material on your blog? Then someone could download it, put it on some wiki, and we will see what wiki system has the best press kits. I am not at all saying that we should all be a homogenic army of vloggers with the same pink hand-outs, but it would be really cool if we could share resources. Comments? Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen http://dltq.org Ps: VlogEurope is where vlogging happens in Europe this year. September 9th-18th. Amsterdam. Be there! www.vlogeurope.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Press kits collection, anyone?
jan is working on http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com/ maybe resources for printed materials is something on the agenda. On 8/1/05, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all,Something struck me while watching the vlog entry where Ryanne showedthe two-sided handout that she would give to people at Blogher: Iwant to read that!I want to see the material we give out to prospective vloggers in NYC, or San Francisco, or Washington DC, or Amsterdam, or Bergen, Beijingor Sydney. I want to be able to put together a presentation forinstance the Apple store here in Bergen without having to re-inventthe wheel. I might have missed out on some site out there, but I don't thinkthere are any collections of material like this (I still keep mybrochure/handout from the Vloggercon back in January (feels like agesago..)), and where we can download pdf-files to use in our own event or tweak to our own use.I would love to see such a site. Can't we agree that whenever you do apresentation at a conference, meetup or whatnot, then you post some ofthat material on your blog? Then someone could download it, put it on some wiki, and we will see what wiki system has the best press kits.I am not at all saying that we should all be a homogenic army ofvloggers with the same pink hand-outs, but it would be really cool if we could share resources.Comments?Best,Raymond M. Kristiansenhttp://dltq.orgPs: VlogEurope is where vlogging happens in Europe this year.September 9th-18th. Amsterdam. Be there! www.vlogeurope.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--font face=arial size=-1a href="" href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h4ir4h9/M=362335.6886445.7839731.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122932156/A=2894361/R=0/SIG=13jmebhbo/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/education/digitaldivide/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/"> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h4ir4h9/M=362335.6886445.7839731.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122932156/A=2894361/R=0/SIG=13jmebhbo/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/education/digitaldivide/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/ In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide!/a./font~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] wtf...Cheryl spam?
I was worried that she was using the list's members as a list to spam to, which I thought he'd agree with even less. I didn't want to start a conversation about it, and my question was answered. But I guess anyone could view the list and pluck emails from that. Sorry. It was the group's integrity that I was concerned about, but I wasn't thinking, I reacted...need more coffee :) Topic closed. On 8/1/05, kinganti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont think jay would approve of this topic. On 8/1/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucky me, thanks Charles. On 8/1/05, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon wrote: Anyone else get an email from Cheryl Shuman about her 'Welcome to The In Crowd TV...' vlog? Not me. You must be on her whitelist. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com http://devlon.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://antidisestablishmentarian.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com http://devlon.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] backup-festival.de
Any vloggers here participating in http://backup-festival.de/ or responding to the call for text? http://www.uni-weimar.de/~zintl/backup/b05_plaintext_en.pdf cheers r -- http://r.24x7.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] The Blog Business Summit - San Francisco, August 17-19
I just registered to attend the Blog Business Summit August 17-19 in San Francisco. Anyone going there? We could meet. Chris YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] PHP hackers?
Are there any PHP hackers here that might be able to fix WordPress to properly deal with enclosures stored via Ourmedia? See this msg: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2005-July/002190.html Right now I use WordPress, a custom cgi to redirect to my videos, and Ourmedia/Internet Archive for uploading and storage. What this means in layman's terms is that for me, adding a video as an enclosure to WordPress is a royal PITA... :( Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The Blog Business Summit - San Francisco, August 17-19
I'll be speaking there in a session with Chris Pirillo. ER http://www.ericrice.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just registered to attend the Blog Business Summit August 17-19 in San Francisco. Anyone going there? We could meet. Chris YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] PHP hackers?
Can you point me to the enclosure code, Pete? It's pretty straightforward to implement recursion as long as the PHP architecture is reentrant. You're a Wordpress demon, right? If you're hesitant to do it yourself, that's a flag that it's not so easy... On 8/1/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any PHP hackers here that might be able to fix WordPress to properly deal with enclosures stored via Ourmedia? See this msg: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2005-July/002190.html Right now I use WordPress, a custom cgi to redirect to my videos, and Ourmedia/Internet Archive for uploading and storage. What this means in layman's terms is that for me, adding a video as an enclosure to WordPress is a royal PITA... :( Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Damn blogger...
Blogger is messing me around again. at first the comments stopped working on my videoblog. now the newest (todays) entry has magically disapeared. it's up. look: http://www.noservicecharge.com/videoblog/2005/08/obvious.html it just isnt on the main page. just incase you think i've failed. damn them - Ian -- www.the05project.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Blog Business Summit - San Francisco, August 17-19
Cool. I'll attend the session. I am quite surprised that there is nothing about video blogging in the program. Are you going to cover video blogging? Chris YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: help inserting windows media player onto blog site?
Hi millie - At your OurMedia page, you'll see a line of text just beneath your media file that says This media file's URL: Link The word 'Link' is a link directly to the media file. Link to that address rather than the ourmedia page. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make it so that when you click on the video it'll pop the window media player instead of going to the ourmedia website. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Hi from new member-Question?
hi Jeff, BlogTorrent serves as the base for Broadcast Machine. BlogTorrent will serve any sort of file(s) via the BitTorrent protocol, but Broadcast Machine is tailored for videoblogging. unfortunately, I've never installed nor used Broadcast Machine, so I can't help you there... FireANT is for viewing and subscribing to video blogs, not necessarily posting them (not today, at least). if I may suggest, please try out Blip.tv - we offer a free video blog (yourname.blip.tv) and unlimited video hosting, as well as an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures, all in one neat package wrapped with a bow and served with a smile. http://www.blip.tv/ signing up is quick, painless, and free. and as always, there is an excellent guide here: http://www.freevlog.org/ looking forward to see what videos you have in store for us! cheers, - Jared -- http://www.spokes.tv/ http://www.geek-boy.com/ On Aug 1, 2005, at 8:41 PM, jeff brown wrote: I'm new to blogging and I'm looking to vblog, my questions are- Do I want to use blog torrent? and broadcast machine? Or should I use Fire ant? What's the diff.? I tried to upload broadcast machine to my blog on blogger but I couldn't figure it out- on the faq page it says to simply copy the broadcast machine file to the public_ html page on my website, But I don't know how to do this! and can't find the info to do this. I am learning a lot and want my blog to be great, the learning curve is tough for me right now, I know this is probably simple to you all, but I've only been blogging for a couple of months, and any help or advice, would be appreciated! Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Comedy Skitz wanted
Hi there Vloggers, Join the JAMTV comedy role out. Have you got a great idea for a comedy skit, Well then, cast it, Shoot it, and send me a little email then I'll send you the ftp details and I'll host it and stick it on http://jamtv.blogspot.com Common I know you lot are a funny lot. J, JJJ, J Jaminunit YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
