Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
A footnote worthy of mention I think is the 1946 film Etoile sans lumiere - it the same general story as Singin' In the Rain but it's about the transition to sound in France. Edith Piaf in a rare acting role plays the voice behind the star. Alas not on DVD but worth looking for on TCM. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: True story. The day I knew I was crazy ( and crazy about movies). I was walking with friends up some stairs in my HS and one made an off hand remark about people, without thinking (because who would do this if they were) I said People, I ain't people. I am a shimmering glowering star in the cinema firma mint. Says so right here. It took me a minute to realize where it came from and to say my friends were startled would be understatement. However to be fair Singin is my 2nd or 3rd favorite film, my favorite is KISS ME DEADLY. I have eclectic tastes. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Tatar, Becky blt...@aurora.lib.il.us wrote: Also my very favorite movie! Becky Tatar Periodicals/Audiovisuals Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL 60505 Phone: 630-264-4100 FAX: 630-896-3209 blt...@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurorapubliclibrary.org From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:18 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie and for even more trivia, many of the songs for Hollywood Revue including Singin in the Rain were written by Arthur Freed who later became the producer of many of the top MGM musicals including Singin in the Rain. Some of the film was based on his memories of the early Hollywood musicals. FYI for the record I have seen Singin in the Rain at least 16 times but not for 6 or 7 years. All viewings were on film with an audience. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Williams, Alex O. a...@typecastfilms.com wrote: Along with Singin' In the Rain it might be interesting to show The Hollywood Revue of 1929, available from Warner Archives here: http://www.wbshop.com/Hollywood-Revue-of-1929/1000179896,default,pd.html?cgid= The film was made to showcase MGM's roster of silent stars, introducing them as stars of the new talkies. Some in the film went on to become even bigger stars in the sound era. But many in the film are not well known today, since they failed to make a successful transition to sound. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 actually ends with a big, all-star Singin' In the Rain finale in Technicolor. Alex _ Alex O. Williams Festival Booking Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586 arabfilm.com | typecastfilms.com On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
It is available on DVD from France. Not subtitled, but available: http://www.amazon.fr/%C3%89toile-sans-lumi%C3%A8re-Mila-Parely/dp/B000ZSX3OC Oksana At 02:07 PM 22/11/2011, you wrote: A footnote worthy of mention I think is the 1946 film Etoile sans lumiere - it the same general story as Singin' In the Rain but it's about the transition to sound in France. Edith Piaf in a rare acting role plays the voice behind the star. Alas not on DVD but worth looking for on TCM. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: True story. The day I knew I was crazy ( and crazy about movies). I was walking with friends up some stairs in my HS and one made an off hand remark about people, without thinking (because who would do this if they were) I said People, I ain't people. I am a shimmering glowering star in the cinema firma mint. Says so right here. It took me a minute to realize where it came from and to say my friends were startled would be understatement. However to be fair Singin is my 2nd or 3rd favorite film, my favorite is KISS ME DEADLY. I have eclectic tastes. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Tatar, Becky blt...@aurora.lib.il.us wrote: Also my very favorite movie! Becky Tatar Periodicals/Audiovisuals Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL  60505 Phone: 630-264-4100 FAX: 630-896-3209 blt...@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurorapubliclibrary.org From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:18 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie and for even more trivia, many of the songs for Hollywood Revue including Singin in the Rain were written by Arthur Freed who later became the producer of many of the top MGM musicals including Singin in the Rain. Some of the film was based on his memories of the early Hollywood musicals. FYI for the record I have seen Singin in the Rain at least 16 times but not for 6 or 7 years. All viewings were on film with an audience. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Williams, Alex O. a...@typecastfilms.com wrote: Along with Singin' In the Rain it might be interesting to show The Hollywood Revue of 1929, available from Warner Archives here: http://www.wbshop.com/Hollywood-Revue-of-1929/1000179896,default,pd.html?cgid= The film was made to showcase MGM's roster of silent stars, introducing them as stars of the new talkies. Some in the film went on to become even bigger stars in the sound era. But many in the film are not well known today, since they failed to make a successful transition to sound. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 actually ends with a big, all-star Singin' In the Rain finale in Technicolor. Alex _ Alex O. Williams Festival Booking Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586 arabfilm.com | typecastfilms.com On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.-- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation
[Videolib] Silent to Talkie
Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.eduwrote: Dear CW, ** ** I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? ** ** ** ** Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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How about Sunset Boulevard, as an example of a star that failed to make the transition. Ken --- Ken Wetherington Lilly Library Duke University ken.wethering...@duke.edu 660-5989 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karsten, Eileen Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:55 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
Why not Sunset Boulevard? Randal Baier - Reply message - From: Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 9:55 am Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx..lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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It would be OK for some extra info but it really give no direct info on the transition. Honestly this is kind of like saying I am looking for a feature film about Oscar Schindler but not Schindler's List. Singin in the Rain is the film on the subject. If the person wants to see other films for some other small bits than Sunset BLVD or plunking down the money to see The Artist on the screen are fine. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu wrote: Why not Sunset Boulevard? Randal Baier - Reply message - From: Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 9:55 am Dear CW, ** ** I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? ** ** ** ** Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx..lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Right right right! (You da man--so to speak--Jessica!) Using the movies as social and cultural artifacts which are useful for the study of cultural history isn't the same thing as using the movies as history: Just take a look at Mississippi Burning! There are dozens, if not hundreds, of articles and books discussing the transition to sound. That's the place to be. Gary Handman It would be OK for some extra info but it really give no direct info on the transition. Honestly this is kind of like saying I am looking for a feature film about Oscar Schindler but not Schindler's List. Singin in the Rain is the film on the subject. If the person wants to see other films for some other small bits than Sunset BLVD or plunking down the money to see The Artist on the screen are fine. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu wrote: Why not Sunset Boulevard? Randal Baier - Reply message - From: Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 9:55 am Dear CW, ** ** I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? ** ** ** ** Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx..lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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I would use Wings (the first and last silent film to win Best picture Academy Award), The Jazz Singer (which was for the most part silent with dubbed songs, inching its way towards talkies but credited with being first talking picture) and something with John Gilbert -- probably His Glorious Night - whose career was ruined over allegations that his voice couldn't make the transition to talkies. I don't think this was the real reason because I have seen him in talkies and there is nothing wrong with his voice that I could tell. John -Original Message- From: Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 4:57 am Subject: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Wait you want the student to READ. Sorry Gary, but that is just not reasonable especially when the subject is related to film because all you need to know can be found in films. (If I sound especially snarky it dates back to my year in film grad school at UCLA where I looked through the studio files for background on particular film was the subject of important article on reading films and pointed out that the many of the actual facts that were in the article were simply wrong and I was told I was wrong because what you saw on the screen superseded anything as silly as studio documents which detailed the production. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Right right right! (You da man--so to speak--Jessica!) Using the movies as social and cultural artifacts which are useful for the study of cultural history isn't the same thing as using the movies as history: Just take a look at Mississippi Burning! There are dozens, if not hundreds, of articles and books discussing the transition to sound. That's the place to be. Gary Handman It would be OK for some extra info but it really give no direct info on the transition. Honestly this is kind of like saying I am looking for a feature film about Oscar Schindler but not Schindler's List. Singin in the Rain is the film on the subject. If the person wants to see other films for some other small bits than Sunset BLVD or plunking down the money to see The Artist on the screen are fine. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu wrote: Why not Sunset Boulevard? Randal Baier - Reply message - From: Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 9:55 am Dear CW, ** ** I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? ** ** ** ** Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx..lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Dear CW, My patron has consulted a variety of materials but was looking for a visual representation to refer to in her presentation. Also, somewhere in the back of my mind, I remember another film about this period. The two lead characters went to Hollywood pretending to be vocal coaches. I never saw it and must have read about it. It might not be a good representation and/or available on DVD/VHS. The patron asked for options and I would like to give her more than one. I love Singin in the Rain and think it would be perfect. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Eileen The film you are thinking of is the wonderful Once in a Lifetime based on the play by Kaufmann Hart . Alas it is has never been available on VHS, DVD etc. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, My patron has consulted a variety of materials but was looking for a visual representation to refer to in her presentation. Also, somewhere in the back of my mind, I remember another film about this period. The two lead characters went to Hollywood pretending to be vocal coaches. I never saw it and must have read about it. It might not be a good representation and/or available on DVD/VHS. The patron asked for options and I would like to give her more than one. I love Singin in the Rain and think it would be perfect. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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What about Show Girl in Hollywood (1930 Mervyn LeRoy). It's available from Warner Archive and stars Alice White as a showgirl who tries to make it big in Hollywood. The great thing about the film is the footage of the early sound equipment and new' way of shooting a musical. It's a really interesting reflexive film and as a bonus, it features silent star Blanche Sweet as a has-been silent film actress whose sound career has dwindled to almost nothing. This film is under-appreciated and as relatively early sound film itself still manages to have the needed distance to make the same kinds of comments Singin' in the Rain made twenty years later. Oksana Oksana Dykyj Concordia University Montreal, Canada At 11:09 AM 21/11/2011, you wrote: Eileen The film you are thinking of is the wonderful Once in a Lifetime based on the play by Kaufmann Hart . Alas it is has never been available on VHS, DVD etc. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Karsten, Eileen mailto:kars...@mx.lakeforest.edukars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, My patron has consulted a variety of materials but was looking for a visual representation to refer to in her presentation. Also, somewhere in the back of my mind, I remember another film about this period. The two lead characters went to Hollywood pretending to be vocal coaches. I never saw it and must have read about it. It might not be a good representation and/or available on DVD/VHS. The patron asked for options and I would like to give her more than one. I love Singin in the Rain and think it would be perfect. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 mailto:kars...@mx.lakeforest.edukars...@mx.lakeforest.edu tel:847-735-5066847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) mailto:jessicapros...@gmail.comjessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
Jessica! I hope you are not judging *The Artist *without having seeing it first. ;-) The buzz for the film has been extremely positive, garnering a 94 rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That said, *Singin' in the Rain *is is a terrific film, practically perfect in every way. I have lost track of how many times I have seen it. But I do need to point out that writers of the film's brilliant screenplay, Adolph Green and Betty Comden were born in 1914 and 1917 respectively, thus they were not...um... exactly around in Hollywood during the time of the switch to sound films. And the film's co-directors, Gene Kelly and Stanley Donen, were born in 1912 and 1924 respectively-same thing. Cheers! Anthony *** Anthony E. Anderson Social Studies and Arts Humanities Librarian Von KleinSmid Library University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182 (213) 740-1190 tel:%28213%29%20740-1190 antho...@usc.edu mailto:antho...@usc.edu Wind, regen, zon, of kou, Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou. * Jessica Rosner wrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu mailto:kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23^rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu mailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 tel:847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com mailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
Oh I was not dissing The Artist. I am dying to see it. It is just that there is no better film on the subject than Singin in the Rain. I like Oksana's suggestion of Showgirl in Hollywood but Singin is still the best. Comden, Green Kelly were not of course involved but in fact all of them remembered it vividly as kids who witnessed it happen and each went to a lot of silent films. Producer Arthur Freed was of course around and involved in early sound films. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Anthony Anderson antho...@usc.edu wrote: ** Jessica! I hope you are not judging *The Artist *without having seeing it first. ;-) The buzz for the film has been extremely positive, garnering a 94 rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That said, *Singin' in the Rain *is is a terrific film, practically perfect in every way. I have lost track of how many times I have seen it. But I do need to point out that writers of the film's brilliant screenplay, Adolph Green and Betty Comden were born in 1914 and 1917 respectively, thus they were not...um... exactly around in Hollywood during the time of the switch to sound films. And the film's co-directors, Gene Kelly and Stanley Donen, were born in 1912 and 1924 respectively-same thing. Cheers! Anthony *** Anthony E. Anderson Social Studies and Arts Humanities Librarian Von KleinSmid Library University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182 (213) 740-1190 antho...@usc.edu Wind, regen, zon, of kou, Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou. * Jessica Rosner wrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
Along with Singin' In the Rain it might be interesting to show The Hollywood Revue of 1929, available from Warner Archives here: http://www.wbshop.com/Hollywood-Revue-of-1929/1000179896,default,pd.html?cgid= The film was made to showcase MGM's roster of silent stars, introducing them as stars of the new talkies. Some in the film went on to become even bigger stars in the sound era. But many in the film are not well known today, since they failed to make a successful transition to sound. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 actually ends with a big, all-star Singin' In the Rain finale in Technicolor. Alex _ Alex O. Williams Festival Booking Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586 arabfilm.com | typecastfilms.com On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comwrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, ** ** I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? ** ** ** ** Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
I can't remember the details, but certainly the series Moguls and Movie Stars from Turner Classic Movies includes some discussion of the transition from silent to sound films. http://www.amazon.com/Moguls-Movie-Stars-History-Hollywood/dp/B004MQ6W5K/re f=sr_1_1?s=movies-tvie=UTF8qid=1321923574sr=1-1 Episode 2. The birth of Hollywood (1907-1920) ; Disc 2. Episode 3. The dream merchants (1920-1928) -deg -- deg farrelly Arizona State University P.O. Box 871006 Tempe, AZ 85287 Phone: 480.965.1403 Email: deg.farre...@asu.edu On 11/21/11 5:01 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
and for even more trivia, many of the songs for Hollywood Revue including Singin in the Rain were written by Arthur Freed who later became the producer of many of the top MGM musicals including Singin in the Rain. Some of the film was based on his memories of the early Hollywood musicals. FYI for the record I have seen Singin in the Rain at least 16 times but not for 6 or 7 years. All viewings were on film with an audience. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Williams, Alex O. a...@typecastfilms.comwrote: Along with Singin' In the Rain it might be interesting to show The Hollywood Revue of 1929, available from Warner Archives here: http://www.wbshop.com/Hollywood-Revue-of-1929/1000179896,default,pd.html?cgid= The film was made to showcase MGM's roster of silent stars, introducing them as stars of the new talkies. Some in the film went on to become even bigger stars in the sound era. But many in the film are not well known today, since they failed to make a successful transition to sound. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 actually ends with a big, all-star Singin' In the Rain finale in Technicolor. Alex _ Alex O. Williams Festival Booking Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586 arabfilm.com | typecastfilms.com On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.comwrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, ** ** I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? ** ** ** ** Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
If you can find it, there is a 26 minute episode from the CBS Twentieth Century series, made in 1959, titled The Movies Learn to Talk Sixty-five years of the development of sound films are telescoped in this CBS documentary. It presents a variety of examples of sound research including that of Edison, Gaumont, DeForest, Warner Brothers' Vitaphone and Fox Movietone. Brief scenes are shown from silent and sound films with celebrities such as John Barrymore, George Bernard Shaw and Al Jolson in The Jazz Singer . Brigid Duffy Academic Technology San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Deg Farrelly wrote: I can't remember the details, but certainly the series Moguls and Movie Stars from Turner Classic Movies includes some discussion of the transition from silent to sound films. http://www.amazon.com/Moguls-Movie-Stars-History-Hollywood/dp/B004MQ6W5K/re f=sr_1_1?s=movies-tvie=UTF8qid=1321923574sr=1-1 Episode 2. The birth of Hollywood (1907-1920) ; Disc 2. Episode 3. The dream merchants (1920-1928) -deg -- deg farrelly Arizona State University P.O. Box 871006 Tempe, AZ 85287 Phone: 480.965.1403 Email: deg.farre...@asu.edu On 11/21/11 5:01 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
Also my very favorite movie! Becky Tatar Periodicals/Audiovisuals Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL 60505 Phone: 630-264-4100 FAX: 630-896-3209 blt...@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurorapubliclibrary.org From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:18 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie and for even more trivia, many of the songs for Hollywood Revue including Singin in the Rain were written by Arthur Freed who later became the producer of many of the top MGM musicals including Singin in the Rain. Some of the film was based on his memories of the early Hollywood musicals. FYI for the record I have seen Singin in the Rain at least 16 times but not for 6 or 7 years. All viewings were on film with an audience. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Williams, Alex O. a...@typecastfilms.commailto:a...@typecastfilms.com wrote: Along with Singin' In the Rain it might be interesting to show The Hollywood Revue of 1929, available from Warner Archives here: http://www.wbshop.com/Hollywood-Revue-of-1929/1000179896,default,pd.html?cgid= The film was made to showcase MGM's roster of silent stars, introducing them as stars of the new talkies. Some in the film went on to become even bigger stars in the sound era. But many in the film are not well known today, since they failed to make a successful transition to sound. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 actually ends with a big, all-star Singin' In the Rain finale in Technicolor. Alex _ Alex O. Williams Festival Booking Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202tel:206.322.0882%20x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586tel:206.322.4586 arabfilm.comhttp://arabfilm.com/ | typecastfilms.comhttp://typecastfilms.com/ On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.commailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066tel:847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.commailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie
True story. The day I knew I was crazy ( and crazy about movies). I was walking with friends up some stairs in my HS and one made an off hand remark about people, without thinking (because who would do this if they were) I said People, I ain't people. I am a shimmering glowering star in the cinema firma mint. Says so right here. It took me a minute to realize where it came from and to say my friends were startled would be understatement. However to be fair Singin is my 2nd or 3rd favorite film, my favorite is KISS ME DEADLY. I have eclectic tastes. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Tatar, Becky blt...@aurora.lib.il.uswrote: Also my very favorite movie! ** ** Becky Tatar Periodicals/Audiovisuals Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL 60505 Phone: 630-264-4100 FAX: 630-896-3209 blt...@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurorapubliclibrary.org ** ** *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2011 7:18 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Silent to Talkie ** ** and for even more trivia, many of the songs for Hollywood Revue including Singin in the Rain were written by Arthur Freed who later became the producer of many of the top MGM musicals including Singin in the Rain. Some of the film was based on his memories of the early Hollywood musicals. FYI for the record I have seen Singin in the Rain at least 16 times but not for 6 or 7 years. All viewings were on film with an audience. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Williams, Alex O. a...@typecastfilms.com wrote: Along with Singin' In the Rain it might be interesting to show The Hollywood Revue of 1929, available from Warner Archives here: http://www.wbshop.com/Hollywood-Revue-of-1929/1000179896,default,pd.html?cgid= ** ** The film was made to showcase MGM's roster of silent stars, introducing them as stars of the new talkies. Some in the film went on to become even bigger stars in the sound era. But many in the film are not well known today, since they failed to make a successful transition to sound. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 actually ends with a big, all-star Singin' In the Rain finale in Technicolor. ** ** Alex _ Alex O. Williams Festival Booking Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586 arabfilm.com | typecastfilms.com On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect Singin in the Rain is far better than The Artist for the subject. It is by far the fiction film which covers the subject as its main plot and in some detail and was made by people who actually remember when it happened even if they were not directly involved. Also one the greatest movies ever made. I can actually recite most of the dialogue and lyrics by heart. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, I have a patron who wanted to use the new film The Artist as the basis for a paper. The paper was about the transition in Hollywood from silent film to talkies. Of course, the film is not opening in the US until Nov. 23rd as a limited run. I suggested Singin in the Rain as an alternative. Does anybody have any suggestions for other films? Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended
