RE: OT: Vi in a browser...

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Svensen
 -Original Message-
 From: Yongwei Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 1. juni 2007 07:32
 To: vim@vim.org
 Subject: Re: OT: Vi in a browser...
 
 On 31/05/07, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Edward L. Fox wrote:
  [...]
   A friend told me that he is developing a Firefox addon to emulate
the
   Vi/Vim behaviors in all text areas in Firefox, without launching
   external applications. I'm looking forward to it.
  [...]
 
  I don't think any Vim extension aiming at reproducing Vim's
behaviour
  without actually calling it, will be able to come near the result of
the
  gazillions of man-hours Bram (with a few others) has put and is
still
 putting
  into it. Many browsers are able to interact with any external
editor
 (such
  as true-blue Vim) these days, which also means that any bugfix or
 improvement
  to Vim gets reflected in the editing behaviour of the browser. Or
you
 could
  always write the text in Vim, then use the clipboard to paste it
into
 the
  browser, even with no special external editor function.
 
 Agreed. Maybe Edward should persuade his friend to use the OLE
 interface of Vim instead.
 
 Yongwei
 
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Personally, I don't agree with you. When editing short text items on web
pages, I feel that the overhead of copying/pasting back and forth from
vim is too much. I am currently using the View Source With-addon,
which is great, but I would actually prefer a limited vi-implementation
for use inside Firefox.

So, Edward, please post to this list if/when your friend has something
that we may try out :-)

Thomas Svensen
Senior Solutions Engineer
FAST


Re: vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-16 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/5/15, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Please note that he had already given you this exact same answer already
in his last message, including and especially the bit that \n is an
end-of-line (line terminator), not a open-new-line (line separator).
This is generally true for all operating systems, not just Unix
(substituting \r or \r\n as necessary). This is the part that he
shouted, since apparently he thought you'd notice it more this time
around if he did.

While I don't approve of shouting, I do understand his frustration:
asking questions to learn about mysteries is definitely a good thing,
and to be encouraged; but please do take the time to thoroughly read the
answers that people spend time writing.


I think my problem stems from the fact that I usually do not hold this true:


0x10 alone gives an *end* of line, not necessarily a *begin* of line.


In the programming language I currently write, using the seperator
string somewhere in the string I'm parsing gives a new entry. So a
string containing only a line seperator char/pattern would have 2
entries, which in this case would mean 2 lines. As I see now, this is
handled differently in vim.

IIRC, even a java string tokenizer would work the same way, and by the
original name, line feed in fact /does/ mean a new line on a
serialized terminal.

But that's arguing semantics when the core of the problem is known
now. I apologize for having a different set of mind and not
understanding the problem instantly.

Thomas

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Re: vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-16 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/5/15, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:

 But that's arguing semantics when the core of the problem is known
 now. I apologize for having a different set of mind and not
 understanding the problem instantly.

This is not a fair remark, considering I pointed out to you, privately,
that he made the statement fairly clearly before his last post, which is
why he said it all-caps/bold the second time around.

It's not that you didn't understand the problem instantly: the problem
was explained fairly clearly; it's that you made him repeat his answers,
indicating that you hadn't read them.


Damn. I apologize again, this time for replying your mail on the list.
Now I know why there was no Reply to all, which I thought to be a
glitch in GMail.

And yes, you are right about the other thing, too. I did understand
what he wrote but discarded it as not possible. I think I fell into
that pattern when I read the first reply to my problem which was
bollocks, obviously by someone who did not read what I wrote as he
suggested something I already did and described.

I promise to read the replies I will be given better from now on and
not discard them so easily.

Thomas

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Re: vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/5/14, Andy Wokula [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thomas Michael Engelke schrieb:
 :set fileformats?

 gives

 fileformats=dos,unix, so both formats are available, yet the
 detection and switching does not seem to work.

Are you sure _every_ line ends in ^M?


Positive. Every single line shows an ^M at the end. set fileformat
gives unix after loading. Setting fileformat to dos doesn't change
the files interpretation in vim. Somehow I think I miss something.

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Re: vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/5/15, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:
 2007/5/14, Andy Wokula [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thomas Michael Engelke schrieb:
  :set fileformats?
 
  gives
 
  fileformats=dos,unix, so both formats are available, yet the
  detection and switching does not seem to work.

 Are you sure _every_ line ends in ^M?

 Positive. Every single line shows an ^M at the end. set fileformat
 gives unix after loading. Setting fileformat to dos doesn't change
 the files interpretation in vim. Somehow I think I miss something.


If 'fileformats' includes dos, then if _all_ lines end in CR+LF, the
'fileformat' should be set (locally) to dos.

But a single line without a CR causes 'fileformat' to be set to unix, and
all other lines show a ^M

Test 1:

Load the file. Then:

/[^[:return:]]$

If there is a line ending in LF-without-CR, this search should find it.

Test 2, variant a: To remove all carriage-returns at end-of-line:

:set fileformats=
:e ++ff=dos filename
:setlocal ff=unix
:w

Test 2, variant b: to repair any lines where a CR is missing, (by adding it):

same as 2a, but omit the line with :setlocal ff=unix.


Then exit Vim and reload the file with your usual settings to see if the
problem has gone away. If it hasn't, do you still see it with

vim -u /usr/local/share/vim/vim71/vimrc_example.vim

(replace the path if necessary by wherever Vim sets $VIMRUNTIME on your
installation: on Windows it might be

vim -u C:\Program Files\Vim\vim71\vimrc_example.vim

instead)?


Hello Tony, and thanks for your extensive answer. Unfortunately, this
is what I can report. To make things easier, I'll attach the file I am
talking about to this message so that you can either check for
yourselves and/or see that I'm telling the truth.

What is the current state: Of course, there's one line without 0x13
0x10 at the end, and that is the last line. As I checked using your
regex (I'm always forgetting the :word:-syntax is available as well,
which makes it difficult as I can never remember how to search for a
hex char), I found one single line except the last one without 0x13
0x10 at the end. I removed the line in joining it with the line above
(multi line command) and saved the file. I closed it, closed vim and
reopened the file again. The problem persists. Now the only line your
regex finds is the last one. set fileformats still evaluates to
dos,unix. set fileformat after loading the file evaluates to
unix. Setting it to dos via set fileformat=dos does not help the
issue.

The example file of vim (in my case,
c:\Programme\vim\vim71a\vimrc_example.vim) loads fine and gets the
fileformat dos, as expected.

Thank you for your help, guys.

Thomas

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Re: vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/5/15, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:
 2007/5/15, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:
  2007/5/14, Andy Wokula [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Thomas Michael Engelke schrieb:
   :set fileformats?
  
   gives
  
   fileformats=dos,unix, so both formats are available, yet the
   detection and switching does not seem to work.
 
  Are you sure _every_ line ends in ^M?
 
  Positive. Every single line shows an ^M at the end. set fileformat
  gives unix after loading. Setting fileformat to dos doesn't change
  the files interpretation in vim. Somehow I think I miss something.
 

 If 'fileformats' includes dos, then if _all_ lines end in CR+LF, the
 'fileformat' should be set (locally) to dos.

 But a single line without a CR causes 'fileformat' to be set to
 unix, and
 all other lines show a ^M

 Test 1:

 Load the file. Then:

 /[^[:return:]]$

 If there is a line ending in LF-without-CR, this search should find it.

 Test 2, variant a: To remove all carriage-returns at end-of-line:

 :set fileformats=
 :e ++ff=dos filename
 :setlocal ff=unix
 :w

 Test 2, variant b: to repair any lines where a CR is missing, (by
 adding it):

 same as 2a, but omit the line with :setlocal ff=unix.


 Then exit Vim and reload the file with your usual settings to see if the
 problem has gone away. If it hasn't, do you still see it with

 vim -u /usr/local/share/vim/vim71/vimrc_example.vim

 (replace the path if necessary by wherever Vim sets $VIMRUNTIME on your
 installation: on Windows it might be

 vim -u C:\Program Files\Vim\vim71\vimrc_example.vim

 instead)?

 Hello Tony, and thanks for your extensive answer. Unfortunately, this
 is what I can report. To make things easier, I'll attach the file I am
 talking about to this message so that you can either check for
 yourselves and/or see that I'm telling the truth.

 What is the current state: Of course, there's one line without 0x13
 0x10 at the end, and that is the last line. As I checked using your
 regex (I'm always forgetting the :word:-syntax is available as well,
 which makes it difficult as I can never remember how to search for a
 hex char), I found one single line except the last one without 0x13
 0x10 at the end. I removed the line in joining it with the line above
 (multi line command) and saved the file. I closed it, closed vim and
 reopened the file again. The problem persists. Now the only line your
 regex finds is the last one. set fileformats still evaluates to
 dos,unix. set fileformat after loading the file evaluates to
 unix. Setting it to dos via set fileformat=dos does not help the
 issue.

Apparently your last line still has a LF without CR, causing the heuristic to
detect the file's 'fileformat' as unix. Ends of lines are line ENDINGS, not
line SEPARATORS: even the last line must have one, for various reasons, the
most obvious of which is that, if file1 lacks a proper end-of-file,

copy file1+file2 file3

will concatenate the last line of file1 with the first line of file2, making
them a single line somewhere in the middle of file3.

Try, as I said in my previous post,

vim
:set fileformats=  cancel autodetect of fileformat
:edit ++ff=dos list02.pforce 'dos' fileformat

Then saving the file should add a proper CR+LF ending to the last line (and to
any other line lacking a CR).


 The example file of vim (in my case,
 c:\Programme\vim\vim71a\vimrc_example.vim) loads fine and gets the
 fileformat dos, as expected.

With -u before it on the Vim command-line, Vim should use it instead of your
vimrc, not as an editfile.


Assuming that fileformat unix means 0x10 means open a new line
which seems to be the case (0x13 stays as ^M, 0x10 is interpreted as a
new line), shouldn't this mean that in the last line there is a line
break missing? If I would have seen a line there with no ^M at the end
I would have seen the problem right away. But this way, it seems a
little odd that although 0x13 0x10 gives a ^M and a new line, 0x10
alone does not give a new line.

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Re: where to install tlib?

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas

I moved tmru.vim into ~/.vim/plugin, but where do I install tlib.vba?


Open the file in vim and type: :so %

See http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1502 for details. 
With 7.0, you might need to install a current version of vimball first. 
(I'm not sure about that though.)




vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello!

I just opened one of the files we develop, written by another
programmer. I can see a ^M at the end of every line.

I quickly check the mailing list archive and find out, that this
mainly depends on the setting of fileformat. I check fileformat
and find out that it's unix. Ah, the problem. I set it to dos. But
nothing changes.

How does vim determine what fileformat a file should have? I mean, a
0x13 before every linebreaking 0x10 should give at least some hint
that this might not be a unix file.

Maybe the file contains something that makes vim think this is a
unix fileformat file? And why doesn't the interpretation change when
I change fileformat? binary is set to nobinary, as I read in the
help that this might cause problems.

Regards,

Thomas Engelke
Berlin, Germany

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Re: vim 7.1 and cr/lf interpretation

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

:set fileformats?

gives

fileformats=dos,unix, so both formats are available, yet the
detection and switching does not seem to work.

2007/5/14, Yongwei Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi Thomas,

On 14/05/07, Thomas Michael Engelke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!

 I just opened one of the files we develop, written by another
 programmer. I can see a ^M at the end of every line.

 I quickly check the mailing list archive and find out, that this
 mainly depends on the setting of fileformat. I check fileformat
 and find out that it's unix. Ah, the problem. I set it to dos. But
 nothing changes.

 How does vim determine what fileformat a file should have? I mean, a
 0x13 before every linebreaking 0x10 should give at least some hint
 that this might not be a unix file.

 Maybe the file contains something that makes vim think this is a
 unix fileformat file? And why doesn't the interpretation change when
 I change fileformat? binary is set to nobinary, as I read in the
 help that this might cause problems.

Try:

:set fileformats?
:help fileformats

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Re: RSS not working

2007-05-08 Thread Thomas

Luis A. Florit wrote:

* El 07/05/07 a las 10:37, Thomas chamullaba:


 For scripts you can also use:
 http://feed43.com/vim-scripts.xml


This is an inofficial feed using a free screen scraping service (which 
explain the small ad in the item footer) though.


Re: RSS not working

2007-05-07 Thread Thomas

For scripts you can also use:
http://feed43.com/vim-scripts.xml

Regards,
Thomas.


Viminfo dictionaries

2007-04-29 Thread Thomas

Hi,

Part two in this week's installment of unsolicited comment on vimscript:

I also realized that viminfo doesn't save upper case letter variables
the values of which are dictionaries. This can be solved by using
VimEnter  VimLeavePre autocommands and by converting the variable to 
from strings. If this is intended to be so, I think this should be noted
in the help -- AFAIK it currently isn't.

Regards,
Thomas.






Re: Syntax error: let a1 = 1 | let b = [1,2,3] | echo b[a1:-1] = Undefined variable a1:

2007-04-29 Thread Thomas

 Using : both for scopes and Sublist is not ideal.  But it's hard to
 think of something that is better.

Ruby uses .. for this (eg a[2..-1]), which has a mathematical touch. 
Putting spaces before and after the colon is perfectly ok for me though 
-- now that I know it.




Re: wish: allow a: in the function def

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas


Also would it be _recommended_ to ever use a window-local variable 
without

the w: prefix? ... IMHO not.
Well, it would make it easier for the user to configure scripts. I'm 
myself not convinced that it's a good idea to allow this for all 
variables, though. But I think it could be useful in some situations 
when you want the user to set a variable per buffer/window or use the 
global value. I sometimes end up with code like this


if a:0 = 1
   let x = a:1
elseif exists('b:foo')
   let x = b:foo
else
   let x = g:foo
endif

The idea was to solve this with some magic.

Of course, with the exception of s:, a user-defined function could help 
too, which probably is sufficient.


let x = a:0 = 1 ? a:1 : GetValue('foo', 'bg')



Re: search-related question

2007-04-21 Thread Thomas Köhler
Hale Boyes, Kevin  wrote:
 How do I search in a document to the next line that doesn't contain a
 specific string?  Something along the lines of grep -v.

If you need all lines that don't contain pattern, try :v/pattern/

If you want to jump to the next line that does not match pattern,
you could do this:

:while getline(line(.)) =~ 'pattern'
:   norm j
:endwhile

Of course, you can't use this in a range. So if you would like to
:5,/xpattern/ command
with xpattern addressing the next line that does not match
pattern, you are out of luck. In that case, you would need to do
use marks:
ma
:while getline(line(.)) =~ 'pattern'
:   norm j
:endwhile
mb
:'a,'b command

 Thanks,
 Kevin.

Ciao,
Thomas

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Re: suggestion

2007-04-18 Thread Thomas

No.  Delete the buffer, but keep the window open.


Something like http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=1078

Regards,
Thomas.



Re: setting title of gvim window inside a bash script

2007-04-16 Thread Thomas Adam

--- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I tried
 
 /usr/bin/gview -c 'set ft=man nomod nolist titlestring=$1' -
 /usr/bin/gview -c 'set ft=man nomod nolist titlestring=$1' -

The problem here is that you're forgetting that string interpolation
_doesn't_ happen within single quotes.  Hence what you want to do is use:

/usr/bin/gview -c set ft=man nomod nolist titlestring=$1 -
 
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completion functions (completefunc): Is it possible for completion items to contain newlines?

2007-04-08 Thread Thomas

Hi,

vim help says about completion functions for use with completefunc:


Each list item can either be a string or a Dictionary.  When it is a string it
is used as the completion.  When it is a Dictionary it can contain these
items:
wordthe text that will be inserted, mandatory
abbrabbreviation of word; when not empty it is used in
the menu instead of word


I'd like to have a completion that spans several lines, i.e. include 
newline characters. I tried several possibilities but neither one worked:


call add(t, {'word': a\nb, 'abbr': 'a'})
call add(t, {'word': 'a\nb', 'abbr': 'b'})
call add(t, {'word': a\crb, 'abbr': 'c'})
call add(t, {'word': a\c-jb, 'abbr': 'd'})

Is it possible? If yes, how?

If not, is it somehow possible to make a completion call a function 
instead of inserting the text? This probably is rather a feature 
request, but I was thinking of complementing a new field called 'agent' 
or 'function' that is supposed to do the actual work of inserting the 
text after an item was selected. An entry could then look like:


call add(t, {'function': 'InsertText(a\nb)', 'abbr': 'a'})

So I imagine the text stump would then be removed and the function 
called with the cursor at the position where the text should begin or so.


Regards,
Thomas.



I'm back

2007-04-06 Thread Thomas Köhler
Hello all,
I just wanted to let you know that I am back on the vim and
vim-dev mailinglists. I won't have time to write many mails, but
my colleagues at work started to ask me a lot of questions about
vim when they found out that I wrote syn on and colorscheme
koehler in root's vimrc of all servers so I thought it might be
good to get back to the old habit of learning by reading the
solutions of fellow vim users to the questions of other vim
users. :-)
I might as well throw in a few mails, but as I only read my
private mail on the weekends there will be only a few mails from
me...

Ciao,
Thomas

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compiler plugin for the ARM compiler

2007-04-06 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Hi,

Is a compiler plugin for the ARM compiler (armcc) already available?
(Couldn't find it in the Vim site) 

I am basically looking for the errorformat for the ARM compiler.

Regards,
Sibin


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I'm back

2007-04-06 Thread Thomas Köhler
Hello all,
I just wanted to let you know that I am back on the vim and
vim-dev mailinglists. I won't have time to write many mails, but
my colleagues at work started to ask me a lot of questions about
vim when they found out that I wrote syn on and colorscheme
koehler in root's vimrc of all servers so I thought it might be
good to get back to the old habit of learning by reading the
solutions of fellow vim users to the questions of other vim
users. :-)
I might as well throw in a few mails, but as I only read my
private mail on the weekends there will be only a few mails from
me...

Ciao,
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Re: Question about paragraphs: make lines containing only whitespace characters a paragraph separator

2007-04-04 Thread Thomas



autocmd BufRead,BufWrite * if ! bin | silent! %s/\s\+$//ge | endif

Thanks. I think this is about what I was looking for.

Regards,
Thomas.




compiler plugin for the ARM compiler

2007-04-03 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Hi,

Is a compiler plugin for the ARM compiler (armcc) already available?
(Couldn't find it in the Vim site) 

I am basically looking for the errorformat for the ARM compiler.

Regards,
Sibin



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Question about paragraphs: make lines containing only whitespace characters a paragraph separator

2007-04-03 Thread Thomas

Hi,

This is something that I found annoying quite a time now and I'm
pretty sure there is a simple solution for this problem.

Paragraphs are defined as:


A paragraph begins after each empty line, and also at each of a set of
paragraph macros, specified by the pairs of characters in the 'paragraphs'
option.


I often end up with seemingly blank lines that contain whitespace 
characters. Is there a way to make vim handle these lines as paragraph 
boundaries too as ip does?


One could remap the {} keys but AFAIK these maps would be ignored by
norm! and noremap commands.

Does somebody know a way to do this?

I understand this could also be considered a finesse/feature, but I 
personally would like to have to choice to treat lines containing only 
whitespace characters as empty lines.


Thanks,
Thomas.





Re: Question about paragraphs: make lines containing only whitespace characters a paragraph separator

2007-04-03 Thread Thomas

Maybe I misunderstand the problem but can't you change those lines
with just blanks to empty lines?


Sure I can remove the whitespace characters. But I'd rather simply not 
have to care about them (but this is filetype-dependent because for some 
filetypes this really could be what I want).


I was just wondering if there maybe already is a (buffer local) option 
to do this.


Regards,
Thomas.



Question about b:did_ftplugin

2007-04-02 Thread Thomas

Hi,

When I set a filetype for a buffer the variable b:did_ftplugin is set.

The help says:


If you are writing a filetype plugin to be used by many people, they need a
chance to disable loading it.  Put this at the top of the plugin: 

 Only do this when not done yet for this buffer
if exists(b:did_ftplugin)
  finish
endif
let b:did_ftplugin = 1


Now, when I do set ft=X from the command line, it happens that the 
ftplugin X doesn't get loaded because it finishes when b:did_ftplugin is 
set.


When is b:did_ftplugin ever unset? What's the rationale of setting 
b:did_ftplugin and not b:did_ftplugin_X?


Regards,
Thomas.



BUG vim 7.0-204?: autocmd CusorMoved vs select/visual mode vs :behave mswin vs norm!

2007-03-25 Thread Thomas

Hi,

When I use the following command (for demonstration purposes):

au CursorMoved * norm! zz

When I now press s-c-left or s-c-right, zz get inserted in the buffer.

These cursor key seem to be set by :behave mswin.

In summary:
:au CursorMoved * norm! zz
:behave mswin
Press s-c-left or s-c-right
zz gets inserted.

Is there a work-around?

Regards,
Thomas.



Re: BUG vim 7.0-204?: autocmd CusorMoved vs select/visual mode vs :behave mswin vs norm!

2007-03-25 Thread Thomas



When in Select mode you are still in sort-of Normal mode.  Your
autocommand will have to take care of mode stuff by itself.  You can use
CTRL-\ CTRN-N to make sure you are in Normal mode.
  
Okay, I now wrapped the norm! commands in a function and check via 
mode() if we are in select mode and then prepend c-o to the command if 
that's the case. It works without destroying the selection but it looks 
strange to me.


Regards,
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RE: How to cut, copy and paste the VIM-way

2007-03-25 Thread Sibin P. Thomas

-Original Message-
From: Eric Leenman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:40 PM
To: vim@vim.org
Subject: How to cut, copy and paste the VIM-way

Hi,

I'm used to cut, copy and paste the windows-way.
Meaning, selecting text and then press CTRL-X, CTRL-C or CTRL-V.

In VIM (and correct me if I'm wrong) you
yank (y) for copy
put (p) for paste
. for cut

With this in mind, how to cut, copy and paste the VIM-way?
Because when I select text and see select-mode in the lowest line
and then press y, I see a letter y in my text and the selected text is gone.
How come?

Rgds,
Eric

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When you press y after selecting text you will replace the entire text with
the y; this is because you are in the select mode. This is the kind of
behaviour you would get in, lets say Notepad or most other editors.

What you want is, to be in the visual mode before pressing y.
There are two ways - 
1. After selecting text (you can see a '---SELECT---' at the bottom of your
screen.) press CTRL-g, that is 'Ctrl + g' to toggle between visual and
select mode.
:h v_CTRL-G

2. Whenever you select text you can directly enter visual mode by default,
instead of the select mode by setting the 'selectmode' options appropriately.
:h selectmode

Regards,
Sibin


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Re: How to display a omni-comletion menu from a vim script function?

2007-03-16 Thread Thomas

Let me rephrase my question:

Is it possible to display the omni-completion menu in normal mode, eg 
from a function called in normal mode?


I don't want to set omnifunc or completefunc for this.

Regards,
Thomas.



Re: create a fill-in macro.

2007-03-15 Thread Thomas

Can you create and activate a macro that goes like this:
[Activate macro]
First-Name: [first fill-in place] Last-Name: [second fill in place] CR
Country: [third fill-in place]
[Macro ended]
So that when you fill this in you get in insert-mode this as plain text:

First-Name: Eric Last-Name: Leenman
Country: Holland


There are some plugins that do this:

http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keywords=skeleton
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keywords=template

Regards,
Thomas.



How to display a omni-comletion menu from a vim script function?

2007-03-15 Thread Thomas

Hi,

I would like to use the new vim7 drop-down menu that is used with the 
new omni-completion from a vim script in order to let the user select an 
item from a list.


I figured I could temporarily set omnifunc and use this to build the 
list. But I wasn't able to find a way to trigger the display of the menu 
from within a vim script.


Does somebody have an idea of how to display the menu?

Say, we have:

fun! MyComplete(findstart, base)
...
endf

fun! DoSomething()
let omnifunc = omnifunc
let omnifunc = 'MyComplete'
try
+++DISPLAY MENU+++
return 0
finally
let omnifunc = omnifunc
endtry
endf

How would the DISPLAY MENU part look like?

Regards,
Thomas.



Re: rss feed for vim plugins

2007-03-07 Thread Thomas



Is there a way that we can subscribe to this feed, or do we have to
create our own personal instance at free43?
  
The user agreement for free feed conversion allows polling of the feed 
only once every 6 hours, which was one reason why I was asking if 
somebody knew a better (free) web-scraping service. You could use this 
feed: http://feed43.com/vim-scripts.xml


Not sure yet, if this really works.

Regards,
Thomas.



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Re: Bug report: mapping fails with a few characters (i.e.: « :imap ’ foo » fails)

2007-03-02 Thread thomas

2007/3/2, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Mapping seems to be buggy with some characters.
 For instance:

 :imap ' foo

 does not work (the apostrophe is U+2019).

What is 'encoding' set to? Using multibyte characters (e.g. in a mapping) will
only work if 'encoding' (which defines how characters are represented
internally in Vim memory) is set to an appropriate multibyte setting
beforehand


The encoding is set to utf-8. My point is, mapping works with some
multibyte characters, but not all of them. For example:

:imap ∀ foo

... that is, mapping the forall symbol (U+2200), works.

Since I can map some multibyte characters, there is in my opinion no
issue with the encoding.
The question is: why is it possible to map U+2200 but not U+2019?

Regards,
thomas


vim7.0: End completion mode when typing a new/unknown word

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas

Hi,

Say the buffer contains:

foo

or

foo1
foo2

and say I type:

foo

and now c-p.

As soon as there is a possible completion, I switch to (omni)completion 
mode (no idea if this is the official name for it). When there are more 
than one possible completions I get a menu and so.


So far, so good. Now when I simply continue typing (say: a), vim still 
searches for completions although there are no possible completions for 
fooa.


Is there a way to make vim automatically leave completion mode when I 
start typing and there are no known competions for the word?


I'm not sure if I was able to understand the problem and I assume there 
already is an option for this -- which I simply wasn't able to find. Is 
there such an option?


The only relevant setting in my vimrc file is:
set completeopt+=longest

autocmd FileType *  execute setlocal 
complete+=.k$HOME/vimfiles/syntax/.getbufvar(%,current_syntax)..vim


autocmd FileType *  execute setlocal 
complete+=.k$VIMRUNTIME/syntax/.getbufvar(%,current_syntax)..vim


Regards,
Thomas.



RE: How do I make the current working directory follow the active document in Gvim?

2007-02-26 Thread Sibin P. Thomas

-Original Message-
From: cga2000 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:28 PM
To: vim@vim.org
Subject: Re: How do I make the current working directory follow the active
document in Gvim?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:57:39PM EST, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
[..]
 
 - To change (once) to the dir of the current file
 
   :cd %:p:h

Nice. 

But I'm not going to remember it until I understand it.

I scoured the :help files but couldn't find and explanation of the
syntax. 

:p is short for :print and :h is help.

So there's two things I don't know:

1. The symbolic (?) language you are using - the same that's used when
   scripting vim, I would imagine.

2. How to use vim's help efficiently 

:-)

Thanks,

Cga



2. How to use vim's help efficiently -- try :help topic.
If that doesn't give you what you want try - :helpgrep topic (followed by
:cwin if needed).

Try :helpgrep %:p:h  you will find the meaning of %:p:h


Regards,
Sibin


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Problem with opening files from UNC

2007-02-21 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

I'm using vim7 from my Total Commander under Windows XP with the
following command line:

vim70\gvim.exe --remote-tab-silent filename

Whenever I try to open a file from a UNC path (e.g.
\\Cd-server\HKR_304B\install.inf ), I get the attached message,
roughly translated as

Directory \CD-server\HKR_304B could not be found in 'cdpath'

I'm not sure if this is a problem of vim. Trying the same on a random
command line (cmd.exe) using absolute path to vim and UNC for the
file, I get the file opened with no contents and vim claims, it's a
new file. vim also hickups away one \ and claims the final path is
\Cd-server\HKR_304B\install.inf. It would save the file now to
localharddisc:\Cd-server\HKR_304B\install.inf, which is hardly what
I tried to do :)

Thanks.

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Re: vim on calcs, PDAs, palms

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas

I'd like to know if any ports of vim to them are supported out of the box


The Sharp Zaurus (no new products to be expected) and the Nokia N800 are 
linux-based devices and to my knowledge run vim if this is what you 
wanted to know.




search command in visual mode - how to?

2007-02-13 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Hi all, 

I am stuck in one of my scripting attempts!

The context :
Suppose I want to delete the string bio from the following line The
biosphere is huge and I want to do it in this way -
/biosCR
vCR
//eCR
dCR

Now I want to do the same thing, but conditionally...basically I want to use
the :if construct.
I tried - :if (@0=~something) | exe /bios | exe normal v | exe //e |
endif
This where I am stuck; I am not able to reproduce the effect of //eCR
through the :if construct.

In this case I get the error e481: No range allowed and if I try - exe
normal //e it just stays in visual mode doing nothing.

Can anyone help me out here? This is going to play a huge part in most of my
scripts!

Regards,
Sibin



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RE: search command in visual mode - how to?

2007-02-13 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Thanks a lot Charles and Tim for providing me the answer.
(It really was just the case of missing the \r or \cr)

And surely there was no necessity for such complex steps for this particular
example, but it was just an indicative example of one of the steps I needed
for my script. But rest assured I really do need this.

Regards,
Sibin

-Original Message-
From: Charles E Campbell Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:31 AM
To: Sibin P. Thomas
Cc: vim@vim.org
Subject: Re: search command in visual mode - how to?

Sibin P. Thomas wrote:

Hi all, 

I am stuck in one of my scripting attempts!

The context :
Suppose I want to delete the string bio from the following line The
biosphere is huge and I want to do it in this way -
/biosCR
vCR
//eCR
dCR

Now I want to do the same thing, but conditionally...basically I want to use
the :if construct.
I tried - :if (@0=~something) | exe /bios | exe normal v | exe //e
|
endif
This where I am stuck; I am not able to reproduce the effect of //eCR
through the :if construct.

In this case I get the error e481: No range allowed and if I try - exe
normal //e it just stays in visual mode doing nothing.

Can anyone help me out here? This is going to play a huge part in most of my
scripts!
  

Several notes

1. exe /bios might fail.  You probably should use  the search() function:
  if search('bios')
   ...
  endif

2. bios might be part of a word (example: symbiosis) and get found 
when you don't want it to be.
  Perhaps   search('\bios')  would be better?

3. Why not do the search  substitute directly from ex?
   /\bios/s///

4. If for some odd reason you feel you absolutely must use visual mode 
for this, then try
   exe norm! v//e\crd

Regards,
Chip Campbell



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Mapping: Pick occurance of word under cursor, vim7-style

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello!

I am using the following mapping:

map F4 [I:let nr = input(Match: )Barexe normal  . nr .[\tCR

This displays a list of all lines with occurances of the word under
the cursor on it, assigns an incremental number to it and lets me pick
one to jump to. This works fine.

But I know that vim7 (or possible an earlier version, too?) can do
those context menus that pup up in the editing area rather than at the
command line below.

Can anybody give me a hint on how to rewrite the mapping so I get such
a conext menu instead of a numbered list?

Thank you,

Thomas

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Re: Vim presentation in Mountain View

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/2/6, Vigil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hopefully this will be available on google videos.


Yes, as a german it's an awfully long way just to meet Bram once. I
hope to see this lecture pop up as a Torrent or or Goggle Video.


Re: Mapping: Pick occurance of word under cursor, vim7-style

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/2/8, Marc Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:30:37PM +0100, Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:
 Can anybody give me a hint on how to rewrite the mapping so I get such
 a conext menu instead of a numbered list?

Get the word under the cursor using expand('cword')

See completion examples (:h complete-functions) to filter and get the
list. To get the lines you can use getline using with range(0,line('$'))

HTH If you need more info post again.
 Aeh.. Perhaps its faster to get all lines and use the filter()
 function

There is also c-xc-l which completes lines. But this is not exactly
what you want to do...

The mapping is done by assigning omnifunc or completefunc omnifunc is
often used by $VIMRUNTIME/**/complet* scripts so completefunc is the
better choice.


Hello Marc, and thank you for replying.

However, this information, however right it might be, will do me not
much good. I consider vimscript a much harder language than anything
I've encountered before (aside from brainfuck and maybe whitespace).

I do get the expand-part. In any codepiece, expand('cword') expands
to the word at the cursor position.

I do get the difference between the two approaches. The first one
(previous) used an included function [I. Your new approach uses a
script, possible a function and utilizes the new completion technique
via omnifunc.

However, how those parts fit together completely eludes me. I can try
to give as much information as possible and hope this makes it easy
for one of the pros to hack a line together:

The regex to search would be '\'.expand('cword').'\'
The list should appear at the cursor position

Well, I don't have anything more. Thanks.

Thomas

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Re: vim paste buffer

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/2/8, Guillaume Bog [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi everbody,

I'm new on this list. I use vim in a terminal on ubuntu everyday and
still need some help for efficient use. If the file i'm editing is
longer than one screen and I want to paste it somewhere else (say in a
firefox textarea), I have to go out of vim, cat the file i'm editing,
select it and then paste it (with middle mouse button). I now the
visual mode, and how to highlight all (gg v G). But this operation
doesn't fill the proper buffer.


As I understand it, the register * represents the systemwide
clipboard, whatever that means to the actual OS implementation. So
yanking to the register * should do the trick.

Thomas

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how do u visually select a search pattern?

2007-02-08 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Hi all,

How can one visually select a pattern which is searched for?

In the following text : 
get_register_primitive 7
get_register_test_case_primitive 8

parameters 
address--- variable
-

set_register_primitive 11

parameters
set_reg--- variable
-
reg_resp_primitive 9
reg_resp_test_case_primitive 10

parameters
decode_reg--- variable
-



I would like to search for the pattern para\_.\{-}variable. When I am on
the highlighted selections (3 pairs of lines in this case), I would like to
yank the highlighted portion to a register (for evaluation etc).


Regards,
Sibin



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RE: how do u visually select a search pattern?

2007-02-08 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
True, this will work for the present case.
But what I exactly wanted was to visually select whatever is highlighted due
to the previous search, to be precise only one of the matches at a time.

For instance if my search string were para\_.\{-}var (notice that I am not
searching for an entire word), I want to visually select only the part
highlighted by the search operation.

Regards,
Sibin

-Original Message-
From: Michael Brailsford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:10 PM
To: Sibin P. Thomas
Subject: Re: how do u visually select a search pattern?

:set hlsearch

This will highlight all matches of the previous match pattern.

For yanking, search for para the press v, then search for variable, then
press wy.  That will highlight from the beginning of para to the end of
variable.

-Michael

- Original Message 
From: Sibin P. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vim Mailing List vim@vim.org
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2007 10:29:52 AM
Subject: how do u visually select a search pattern?

Hi all,

How can one visually select a pattern which is searched for?

In the following text : 
get_register_primitive 7
get_register_test_case_primitive 8

parameters 
address--- variable
-

set_register_primitive 11

parameters
set_reg--- variable
-
reg_resp_primitive 9
reg_resp_test_case_primitive 10

parameters
decode_reg--- variable
-



I would like to search for the pattern para\_.\{-}variable. When I am on
the highlighted selections (3 pairs of lines in this case), I would like to
yank the highlighted portion to a register (for evaluation etc).


Regards,
Sibin



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RE: how do u visually select a search pattern?

2007-02-08 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Yup that was useful, but I am stuck at the next step of my quest.

I visually select the search pattern using //crv//ecr, then yank it to
a register - say 0 (0yy).
After that, I want to evaluate the yanked text to delete the highlighted part
if it meets a condition, as in -
:if (!(@0=~set_reg)) | exe normal // | exe normal v | exe normal //e
| exe normal d| endif

But here instead visually selecting and deleting the match this command gets
stuck at - exe normal v; i.e. it gets into the visual mode but fails to do
the next set of commands.
What should it be instead of - exe normal //e ?

Regards,
Sibin

-Original Message-
From: Tim Chase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:40 PM
To: Sibin P. Thomas
Cc: Vim Mailing List
Subject: Re: how do u visually select a search pattern?

 I would like to search for the pattern para\_.\{-}variable.
 When I am on the highlighted selections (3 pairs of lines in
 this case), I would like to yank the highlighted portion to a
 register (for evaluation etc).


Well, it's not quite what you describe, but it's like the n/N 
functionality for finding the *next* (or previous) match and 
highlighting it:

:nnoremap f4 //crv//ecr
:nnoremap f5 ??ecrv??cr

It might also be handy to have some visual-mode mappings such as

:vmap f4 escf4
:vmap f5 escf5

So you can continue forward/backward in your searching.

Getting it to highlight the results immediatedly after searching 
is a considerably more difficult stunt.  Doable, but not without 
a number of crazy stunts and mindbendingly opaque mappings.  At 
least from my determination of matters.  YMMV ;)

HTH,

-tim






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/Pattern with grouping ([]) and word character abrev (\w)

2007-02-07 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello,

I'm trying to use a regex for searching in a file. I noticed that
inside square brackets \w seems to loose all magical matching
abilities. Is there a way to reverse that loss or do I have to specify
everything inside [] explicitly?

Regards,

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RE: How can I do to always opening files into a tab ?

2007-01-16 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
-Original Message-
From: Eddine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:06 PM
To: Vim Mailing List
Subject: How can I do to always opening files into a tab ?

Hello Vimmers !

I got few questions for vim under win32 (XP)

- How can I do to _always_ open files into its own tab  ?
   -- Also is there a way to set an option so this tip also runs with
the Edit with Vim context menu.

- Is there an option so when a file is vertically splitted, scrolling
down and up, keeps both left and right panel on the same line, in a
way is there a mean to synchronize the up and down scrolling of both
views ?


Hope I have been clear enough with my questions.

Many thanks
and regards !

Eddine.



Hi,

This is what I do to open files in their own tabs -
1. I browse my working directory with the :Vexplore feature of Vim. When I
come across the file I want to open all I do is type gf when I am over it.
The following line in my vimrc file is the one that does the trick - 
nmap gf c :tabe cfileCR
2. go to ur SendTo folder most likely to be at C:\Documents and
Settings\your login name\SendTo and by default this folder is hidden.
Once u are there right click and create a new shortcut. When it asks for
location type this - 
C:\Program Files\Vim\vim70\gvim.exe --servername GVIM --remote-tab-silent
(maybe the location of ur gvim is different) and then give it a name u like;
and voila u can right click on any file and send it to it's own tab in gvim.

Regards,
Sibin


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Bug in non-gui vim 7.0-178: Command line expansion for emenu doesn't work for menu entries containing a period.

2007-01-13 Thread Thomas

Hi,

In the following, command line expansion works in gvim but not in vim:

set nocompatible
set wildmenu
amenu test.etc\..1 :echo 1cr

emenu test.{press tab}

This presents no possible completion in vim, but correctly shows the
submenu in gvim.

Regards,
Thomas.




Re: Bug in non-gui vim 7.0-178: Command line expansion for emenu doesn't work for menu entries containing a period.

2007-01-13 Thread Thomas Link



set nocompatible
set wildmenu
amenu test.etc\..1 :echo 1cr

emenu test.{press tab}

This presents no possible completion in vim, but correctly shows the
submenu in gvim.



It works fine for me.  Could there be something else that matters?


I tried this with the terminal version on linux  windows (compiled with
GUI=no) and it didn't work when invoking vim as vim -u NONE. It
works when running gvim (@ winxp) though.

I first noticed this problem already some time ago when I first tried
the :emenu command because I happen to have some custom functions listed
in a tml.Vim\ etc\. submenu.

I can still execute the menu entry when I know the name, but command 
line completion doesn't work -- which is somewhat bad because I put 
stuff into the menu I use so seldomn that there isn't use in remembering it.


Anyway, I now renamed the menu.





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Re: Indendation of Progress code

2007-01-10 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2007/1/10, Jürgen Krämer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi,

Thomas Michael Engelke schrieb:

 I have a problem with indendation of a piece of Progress code. It's
 representative of a bit of indendation problems I have now and again,
 always indenting way too far without any visible cause. I hope someone
 can reproduce the issue.

 I've attached the problematic file (zipped) to this post. When I am in
 line 771 and use O (shift+o, that's the letter, not the number), I get
 the cursor one line up, but indented by 49 chars, not (as I would
 expect) 7. I'm not sure if this is a problem of vim, a problem of the
 Progress syntax file or a problem of my configuration.

 Please hint me in the right direction.

you seem to have

  set cindent

somewhere in one of your loaded scripts. Check where it has been set
with

  verbose set cindent?

and remove it from the script.

Regards,
Jürgen


Hello Jürgen and the others,

thanks, that fixed the problem asap. I love this mailing list.

On a related matter, I actually liked the indendation most of the
time. Seldom I had a problem like this one today. Is there a indent
like the next/previous line, whichever has code-solution build-in?

Regards,

Thomas

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Bug in 7.0.178? autocmd BufReadCmd * DoSomething expand(afile) fails if the filename contains %

2007-01-02 Thread Thomas

Hi,

I have the following line in my source:

exec 'autocmd BufReadCmd  '. pattern .' call '. rcmd .'(1,
expand(afile), , %)'

This fails if the filename contains % which is replaced with
expand('%'). I can't seem to escape the % at any point, can I? Wrapping 
the exand(afile) in a escape(, %) doesn't help.


Regards,
Thomas.



Re: vim70: Dictionaries echo vs echom: Bug?

2006-12-13 Thread Thomas

You can already do quite a lot if you define your own assert function or
command for this.


Ok, I now uploaded a plugin[1] that does this. Maybe somebody finds this 
useful too.


The handling of script local functions is suboptimal though, which is 
why I still think this should be integrated into the interpreter.


Regards,
Thomas.

[1] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1730



Re: vim70: Dictionaries echo vs echom: Bug?

2006-12-11 Thread Thomas



Looking back, now that Vim script has become much more complex, a bit
more type checking would be good.
  
A valid point. Mabye this could be done by an assert command/function 
that checks its arguments or does nothing depending on an option (maybe 
'debug')/flag/variable?



Problem is the syntax of type declarations.  Would require function
prototypes, for example.  Vim script follows Python here: no type
declarations.
  
I'm not sure if I can follow you here. I was thinking of something 
really simple in the line of:


   fun! Foo(a, b)
   assert a:a = 0  a:a = 10
   assert type(a:b) == 0, Not a string
   return a:a + a:b
   endf

   assert Foo(1, 2) == 3
   assert Foo(1, -2) == -1

and maybe

   assert_raise Foo(1, bla)

Similar commands are used in some other languages. The idea is that vim 
scripts could run in some sort of debug mode where these assertions are 
evaluated and in normal mode where they are ignored/stripped at 
read/compile-time (if this is possible with the current interpreter) and 
thus don't result in a speed penalty. That's probably not quite what you 
meant but I think it would help (IMHO sufficiently) when writing 
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Re: vim70: Dictionaries echo vs echom: Bug?

2006-12-10 Thread Thomas

As mentioned in the documentation, automatic conversion only happens
between numbers and strings, not with Lists and Dictionaries.  This is
to avoid mistakes, e.g., trying to concatenate a List and a String.


Something like

  let l = [1,2,3]
  exec Foo . l

could come handy though -- which isn't possible now.


Looking back, now that Vim script has become much more complex, a bit
more type checking would be good.


A valid point. Mabye this could be done by an assert command/function 
that checks its arguments or does nothing depending on an option (maybe 
'debug')/flag/variable?




Re: vim70: Dictionaries echo vs echom: Bug?

2006-12-10 Thread Thomas

Something like

  let l = [1,2,3]
  exec Foo . l

could come in handy though -- which isn't possible now.


Although I just realized that lists seem to be passed on by reference 
and this would create a new copy if the string presentation of a list 
were a parseable list.


Which leads to another point: How do I pass a list by reference to Foo, 
what most likely should be done in this example? Maybe I should read the 
manual once again.


I noticed that v:val in map() type of functions does this properly, eg

  fun! Foo(l, a)
  call add(a:l, a:a)
  endf

  let l = []
  call map([1,2,3], 'Foo(l, v:val)')

works properly. But I'm digressing.

Regards.



Re: vim70: Dictionaries echo vs echom: Bug?

2006-12-10 Thread Thomas

  let l = [1,2,3]
  exec Foo . l


Which leads to another point: How do I pass a list by reference to Foo


Sorry, I somehow seem to have forgot what the original problem was -- 
which I should able to solve with the function()  call() functions.




Strange O-behaviour

2006-12-06 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello,

I'm using vim excessively for developing in Progress 4GL. Sometimes, I
stumble upon an odd behaviour and don't know if it's due to a setting
in the syntax file (progress.vim) or due to a problem in vim itself.
Finally, I have a reproducable for one of those oddities.

In the attached file, I have the cursor on line 52. I use O from the
command mode to insert a new line below. The cursor stands in column
37. I would have expected it to stand in column 5, like the beginning
of the line before.

For proper reproduction, use the Progress syntax file included in vim.

I am using gvim 7 for Windows 32 (7th of May 2006).

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Thomas

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te-kor84965.p
Description: Binary data


Wron Block-Insert (p)

2006-12-06 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello,

I have found an oddity in vim which I'm not sure is a bug and/or known.

I have yanked a visual block of some lines of code and try to put it
in somewhere else. There a strange effect happens: depending on if
there is either a character or a beginning of line left besides the
cursor, paste via p works different.

When I have a BOL or a char to the left, it gets pasted and uses the
cursor position as upper left corner. When there's no char/BOL, it
uses the char right beside the cursor position as upper left corner.

It's easily reproducable by just moving the cursor one position to the
right and paste the block again.

Anybody that can reproduce the problem and/or shed some light on it?

Note: Shift+P works as a workaround.

Regards,

Thomas

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Re: Wron Block-Insert (p)

2006-12-06 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2006/12/6, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:
 Hello,

 I have found an oddity in vim which I'm not sure is a bug and/or known.

 I have yanked a visual block of some lines of code and try to put it
 in somewhere else. There a strange effect happens: depending on if
 there is either a character or a beginning of line left besides the
 cursor, paste via p works different.

 When I have a BOL or a char to the left, it gets pasted and uses the
 cursor position as upper left corner. When there's no char/BOL, it
 uses the char right beside the cursor position as upper left corner.

 It's easily reproducable by just moving the cursor one position to the
 right and paste the block again.

 Anybody that can reproduce the problem and/or shed some light on it?

 Note: Shift+P works as a workaround.

 Regards,

 Thomas


I don't understand what you mean.

p means put after cursor; P (shift-p) is put before. Depending on whether
the selection to be pasted is characterwise, linewise or blockwise, the result
will be different. Now let's assume it's blockwise, and that 'virtualedit' is
off (e.g. empty). Using p inserts the selection after the cursor character,
and after the character in the same column on successive lines. If some of the
lines are shorter, spaces are inserted so that the block will be inserted as a
rectangle. The exception is when the cursor is on an empty line: in that case
there is no character at the cursor, and the block gets pasted after
character zero, i.e., at the start of the current line and of successive
lines after that. I don't see any problem. What is it that you don't understand?


Hello,

I'll try to elaborate here.

Sometimes, I have to align statements in a large assign-statement like this:

assign
 var1 =
 var2 =
.

I block-yank a block containing, left-upper, v of var1, right-lower 2
of var2, to insert both variable names after the equal-signs. So my
cursor stands in the spot behind the equals on the first row. I press
p. This is what I get:

assign
 var1 =var1
 var2 =var2
.

I think: Oh, it gets pasted from exactly where my cursor is. I must be
standing wrong. I undo the change, go 1 spot to the right and press p
again. I end up with this:

assign
 var1 =  var1
 var2 =  var2
.

Note that there are 2 spaces after each equal-sign. that is what I do
not understand. Doing the same action, modified by 1 column to the
right, should paste the same, but all one spot to the right. Is that
assumption wrong?

Assuming that what you said hits the spot, p at the described spot
should insert the block with only 1 space between the equal-sign and
the first column of the block.

Hope this clears it up.

Regards,

Thomas


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RE: your best vim scripting tip

2006-12-05 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Hi,

While we are at the subject of tips for budding Vim scripters -
I had created this mapping --

nmap com ^:if search('\/\*.*\*\/','c',line(.))!=0CR
:.s/\/\*\(.*\)\*\//\1/gCR :elseCR
:.s/\(\s*\)\(.*\)\(\s*\)/\1\/\*\2\*\/\3/gCR :endifCR :nohCR

this command basically toggles C-style commenting on a line i.e. if the line
wasn't commented it comments out the entire line and vice-versa. I spent an
intense hour of exploring the help pages and plenty of effort in trial and
error before I could reach the 'Eureka' moment.

What I wanted to know is could the same functionality have been achieved by a
better sequence of commands? Can an experienced 'vimmer' do better?

 
Regards,
Sibin
 

-Original Message-
From: Mikolaj Machowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:18 PM
To: vim@vim.org
Subject: Re: your best vim scripting tip

On nie gru 3 2006, vim@vim.org wrote:
 Hi,
 It you should give one (or more) tips to a person who was going to
 start creating scripts for vim, then what would it be?
 (besides know your :help :-) )

 ideas could be:
 Do's and dont's

Keep ff=unix . In other case your scripts won't be working under non
windows systems.

Always supply modeline to make sure basic editing things will be working
for others.

When changing options use setlocal not set - be polite to user
environment.

Try to cut on g:variables (see above).

Try to maintain documentation, not only for use of script but also for
messing with it.

 best util script

Each script covers only part of Vim functionality. It is hard to say
which one is best for learning.

 often used functions

It depends on what are you want to achieve.

 ways of optimization

Avoid \| in complex regexps, often two, separate substite() are
faster than one substite() with \|.

Avoid * whenever possible, try to use \+ if appropriate.

\x class is faster than [collection]

When doing complex substitutions it is often faster to check if some
part of pattern already exists and only if this is true execute
substitution.

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Re: Call a vim function from the command line

2006-12-01 Thread Thomas

Is it possible to invoke a function in vim automatically?
I'd like to process a text file automatically. I *could* write an
onload for the specific file that calls a functions, saves and exists,
but it does not strike me as very elegant.

Is there anything like

vim -auto -text_file -function



:h starting.txt

Something like:
vim -c call function() -c qa! text_file

or so?



Upcase every keyword while editing

2006-11-16 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello!

I am looking for a way to mimic a functionality I've seen in the
editor ED4Win (http://www.softasitgets.com/). What I want to do is to
automagically upcase every written word that is considered a keyword.
I program in Progress 4GL and use the syntax file from the gvim
standard distribution.

Theoretically, in my understanding of the problem, I would need to
write a function to check the word before the cursor against the
keywords list and map this one to something. Usually, I leave the
boundaries of a keyword by using either space, tab, :, ,, enter or
.. So I would have to map this function to every of those keys in
insert mode.

This is not very elegant, but it would work. I'm not very good in
(g)vim scripting and would like to have some help in writing this
function or a pointer on where I could find a plugin performing this
feat.

Thank you for your time,

Thomas Engelke

gvim.exe --version says:

VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled May  7 2006 16:23:43)
MS-Windows 32 Bit GUI Version mit OLE-Unterstützung
Übersetzt von [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Große Version mit GUI. Ein- (+) oder ausschließlich (-) der Eigenschaften:
+arabic +autocmd +balloon_eval +browse ++builtin_terms +byte_offset +cindent
+clientserver +clipboard +cmdline_compl +cmdline_hist +cmdline_info +comments
+cryptv +cscope +cursorshape +dialog_con_gui +diff +digraphs -dnd -ebcdic
+emacs_tags +eval +ex_extra +extra_search +farsi +file_in_path +find_in_path
+folding -footer +gettext/dyn -hangul_input +iconv/dyn +insert_expand +jumplist
+keymap +langmap +libcall +linebreak +lispindent +listcmds +localmap +menu
+mksession +modify_fname +mouse +mouseshape +multi_byte_ime/dyn +multi_lang
-mzscheme +netbeans_intg +ole -osfiletype +path_extra +perl/dyn -postscript
+printer -profile +python/dyn +quickfix +reltime +rightleft +ruby/dyn
+scrollbind +signs +smartindent -sniff +statusline -sun_workshop +syntax
+tag_binary +tag_old_static -tag_any_white +tcl/dyn -tgetent -termresponse
+textobjects +title +toolbar +user_commands +vertsplit +virtualedit +visual
+visualextra +viminfo +vreplace +wildignore +wildmenu +windows +writebackup
-xfontset -xim -xterm_save +xpm_w32

System-vimrc-Datei: $VIM\vimrc
Benutzer-vimrc-Datei: $HOME\_vimrc
zweite Benutzer-vimrc-Datei: $VIM\_vimrc
Benutzer-exrc-Datei: $HOME\_exrc
zweite Benutzer-exrc-Datei: $VIM\_exrc
System-gvimrc-Datei: $VIM\gvimrc
Benutzer-gvimrc-Datei: $HOME\_gvimrc
zweite Benutzer-gvimrc-Datei: $VIM\_gvimrc
System-Menü-Datei: $VIMRUNTIME\menu.vim
Übersetzt: cl -c /W3 /nologo  -D_MT -MT -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_PATHDEF
-DWIN32   -DFEAT_CSCOPE
-DFEAT_NETBEANS_INTG   -DFEAT_XPM_W32   -DWINVER=0x0400
-D_WIN32_WINNT=0x0400  /Fo.\ObjGOLYTR/ /Ox
-DNDEBUG  -DFEAT_OLE -DFEAT_MBYTE_IME -DDYNAMIC_IME -DFEAT_GUI_W32
-DDYNAMIC_ICONV
-DDYNAMIC_GETTEXT -DFEAT_TCL -DDYNAMIC_TCL
-DDYNAMIC_TCL_DLL=\tcl83.dll\ -DDYNAMIC_TCL_VER=\8.3\
-DFEAT_PYTHON -DDYNAMIC_PYTHON -DDYNAMIC_PYTHON_DLL=\python24.dll\
-DFEAT_PERL -DDYNAMIC_PERL
-DDYNAMIC_PERL_DLL=\perl58.dll\ -DFEAT_RUBY -DDYNAMIC_RUBY
-DDYNAMIC_RUBY_VER=18
-DDYNAMIC_RUBY_DLL=\msvcrt-ruby18.dll\ -DFEAT_BIG /Zi /Fd.\ObjGOLYTR/
Linken: link /RELEASE /nologo /subsystem:windows /incremental:no
/nodefaultlib:libc advapi32.lib shell32.lib gdi32.lib
comdlg32.lib ole32.lib uuid.lib oldnames.lib kernel32.lib gdi32.lib
version.lib   winspool.lib comctl32.lib advapi32.lib shell32.lib
/machine:i386 /nodefaultlib libcmt.lib oleaut32.lib  user32.lib
/nodefaultlib:python24.lib   e:\tcl\lib\tclstub83.lib WSock32.lib
e:\xpm\lib\libXpm.lib /PDB:.\ObjGOLYTR/gvim.pdb -debug

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Re: UTL plugin query

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas

* file.txt
* other.txt


Why not simply use gf in such a situation? The (shameless plug) viki 
plugin also provides advanced hyperlinking facilities.


Thomas.



Cut Paste Repeat

2006-10-11 Thread thomas . hertneky

This is not new behavior for VIM, but I am finally asking.

I would like to be able to repeat via '.' my last cut/paste action.
For example:
cw5C-V

After I do the above, the repeat function '.' does not work.
This does work on my old 'vi' that I use on Solaris.



Tom Hertneky


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Windows Batch file with Tabs

2006-10-03 Thread thomas . hertneky

I thought that this would be easy, but I can not figure it out.
I have had a simple Windows CMD file for a long time to open several files
in VIM.
Each one gets its own window.
Now with V7.0 I would like to have a simple batch file to open the files in
one window, but with tabs.

I have found some complicated discussions in the archive about Windows and
tabs, but
they don't seem to fit.

Thank you for any help.




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Re: How pair g /g

2006-09-18 Thread Thomas Holder
Peng Yu wrote:
 I'm writing some xml code in vim. In xml, there are some pair like
 g /g. Would you please let me know how to pair them as { and
 } such that I can us % to visit them?

source $VIMRUNTIME/macros/matchit.vim
let b:match_words = 'g:/g'

see $VIMRUNTIME/macros/matchit.txt for help.

Regards,
  Thomas


backreferences with expression-syntax?

2006-09-18 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi,

when matching regular expressions with perl, backreferences will be
stored in $1 to $9. Does vim do anything similar? I have a script with
several lines like this

  if cline =~ '^\s*[._a-z0-9]\+\s\+\([-._a-z0-9]\+\)\s\+'
 ...
  endif

and I'd like to have the part which is in parantheses just like in perl.
  I could not find anything about backreferences in the vim manual.

Thanks in advance,
  Thomas


RE: vim | multiple files editing and delete question

2006-09-14 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
If u have Cygwin then creating a batch file with the following would be the
simplest solution -

set TARGETDIR=C:\something
set SCRIPTDIR=C:\something_else
find %TARGETDIR% -name *.[ch] -exec gvim -s %SCRIPTDIR%\win32_vimscript.vim
{} ;

Basically use find to help u (actually it's just one instruction, so u
don't even need to have a batch file for it)

Regards,
Sibin

-Original Message-
From: Nikolaos A. Patsopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:31 PM
To: vim@vim.org
Subject: vim | multiple files editing and delete question

Hi,

I have a series of questions:


1. I want to edit multiple files from command line so I created a vim 
script with all the commands (20). I use a batch file in WinXP:

|@echo off
vim -s script file.txt
exit


however I need to run this script on multiple files. In vim's help there is
this code for use in bash(?) shell

||for file in *.txt; do|
| vim -e -s $file  change.vim|
| lpr -r tempfile|
|done

however it doesn't seem to work under Cygwin.



2.Can I delete after a pattern search? Sth like this:

:/^html\_.{-}body: /-3d

and how can I repeat this globally? 

3. This is not Vim related but I wonder if anyone knows sth. I have the
following structure of folders and files:

..
folder1
file1
file2
folder2
file1
file2
.


and want to add the folder name into the filename:
||

folder1
||folder1|_|file1
||folder1|_|||file2
folder2
||folder2|_|||file1
||folder2|_|||file2



Thanks in advance, 
Nikos
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RE: quick and dirty compile

2006-09-06 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
I have tested it and it works without any hitch on my system.

(WinXp SP2 with Cygwin)

Regards,
Sibin

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From: A.J.Mechelynck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:55 PM
To: Sibin P. Thomas
Cc: Yegappan Lakshmanan; vim@vim.org
Subject: Re: quick and dirty compile

Sibin P. Thomas wrote:
 Thank a lot to everyone!
 I added the following to my _vimrc file to get what I wanted
 
 nmap C-F9 :MakecompileCR
 nmap F5 :MakexecCR :!%.exeCR
 command Makecompile :se makeprg=gcc\ -o\ %.o\ % | :make!
 command Makexec :se makeprg=gcc\ -o\ %\ % | :make!
 
 Regards,
 Sibin


We're not within a makefile: I don't believe % will be interpreted. 
Passing %.o (with % interpreted by Vim) to the shell would mean the 
current file, and read stdio from a file named .o. Use %:r.o or, if it 
doesn't work,

command Makexec -nargs=0 -bar
\ exe 'set makeprg=gcc\ -o\ '
\ . fnamemodify(expand('%'),':p:r')
\ . '.o\ '
\ . expand('%')
\ | make!

with single quotes to avoid interpretation of backslashes before the 
:set command.

See :help filename-modifiers


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Bug in vim7? cursor postion col() vs. utf8-character for showbreak

2006-09-05 Thread Thomas
I set showbreak to ¦ (some extended character). This works fine for 
latin1 etc. but causes troubles when the encoding is utf8. Cursor 
position, col()  virtcol() values etc. are miscalculated for 
(soft)wrapped lines.


Regards,
Thomas.



quick and dirty compile

2006-09-05 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Hi,

Could someone let me know how to quickly compile my current buffer? I want a
key map like 
nmap F5 x to do -- gcc -o current_file.o current_file.c
also another map to make an executable, like
nmap F5 x to do -- gcc -o current_file current_file.c

Also it would be convenient if this command could give a list of errors like
:make.

Regards,
Sibin
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RE: Execute something when I enter in a directory

2006-09-05 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Use 
:se exrc in ur _vimrc file
And then create a _vimrc file local to the directory in question.
Check help for more details.

Regards,
Sibin

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Subject: Execute something when I enter in a directory

Hello vimmers,
I'd like to load some settings when I enter in a directory, like for
instance setting makeprg.

Is there a way to do it?
Thanks in advance from a lurker! :)

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utf8 vs string handling vs virtcol

2006-08-31 Thread Thomas

Hi,

In a plugin on mine, I have the following lines:

let col  = virtcol(.)
let line = strpart(getline(.), col - 1)

The idea is to get the line right of the cursor including the character 
under the cursor. This works fine for latin1 encoding but yields wrong 
results when the encoding is eg utf8 and if there is a 16bit character 
before the cursor -- the string in front of the cursor then obviously is 
longer than one would expect from the value of virtcol().


Do you have a suggestion on how to robustly extract the line right of 
the cursor?


Regards,
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Re: utf8 vs string handling vs virtcol

2006-08-31 Thread Thomas

This is wrong. You need:
let col  = col(.)
let line = strpart(getline(.), col - 1)


Unfortunately, IIRC this doesn't work with wrapped lines which is why I 
chose virtcol() ... But, well can't reproduce what I did (or thought 
that I did) 10 minutes ago. Anyway, it doesn't work with enc=utf8 and 
when there are malformed characters (not valid utf8) that are displayed 
as xx. Interestingly, virtcol() doesn't work in this situation either.


But you're 99% right I guess. Thanks.

Regards,
Thomas.



Re: utf8 vs string handling vs virtcol

2006-08-31 Thread Thomas

Yes it does. Take simple example, Create line with 1 high utf-8 char
entering Ctrl-Vu1234 then a.


Ok, you're right as far as col() is concerned. I'm having here some 
problems though with enc=utf8  soft-wrapped lines  showbreak=¦, which 
I mistook as being a issue related to col(). The cursor appears to be 
slightly off position.


Regards,
Thomas.




Re: Does Vim have any scripts like Org-mode of Emacs?

2006-08-14 Thread Thomas

Org - an Emacs mode for notes and project planning
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/


viki[1] has some (highlighting) support for todo lists but it doesn't 
sort them for you. I also started building some pim functionality on top 
of it but haven't got it to actually work  to test it so that you could 
rely on it.


Thomas.

[1] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=861



RE: Vim and cscope

2006-08-03 Thread Sibin P. Thomas


Could someone help me here; I tried what Dave suggested but with no success.

Regards,
Sibin

 -Original Message-
 From: Sibin P. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:25 AM
...
 I tried integrating Cscope 15.4 with Vim7.0 on WinXP (I have 
 installed cygwin too); but whenever I try to use cscope in 
 Vim I get the following error - 
 
 E623: Could not spawn cscope process.

Sounds like you are using the cscope from the open source project.

You need a special version of cscope that is integrated with Vim.
:h cscope-info

Will point you to different downloads locations.

Since you are on win32, you need to download it from:
http://iamphet.nm.ru/cscope/index.html
:h cscope-win32

HTH,
Dave

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Vim and cscope

2006-07-31 Thread Sibin P. Thomas








Hi,



I tried integrating Cscope 15.4 with Vim7.0 on WinXP (I have
installed cygwin too); but whenever I try to use cscope in Vim I get the
following error - 

E623: Could not spawn cscope process.



Has anyone come across this problem before and more
importantly found a solution?



Regards,

Sibin








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RE: Vim and cscope

2006-07-31 Thread Sibin P. Thomas
Thanks for the reply, but the problem persists.
Is there somehow I could get hold of the source of this version of cscope?

Regards,
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:12 PM
To: Sibin P. Thomas
Cc: vim@vim.org
Subject: RE: Vim and cscope

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Sibin P. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:25 AM
...
 I tried integrating Cscope 15.4 with Vim7.0 on WinXP (I have 
 installed cygwin too); but whenever I try to use cscope in 
 Vim I get the following error - 
 
 E623: Could not spawn cscope process.

Sounds like you are using the cscope from the open source project.

You need a special version of cscope that is integrated with Vim.
:h cscope-info

Will point you to different downloads locations.

Since you are on win32, you need to download it from:
http://iamphet.nm.ru/cscope/index.html
:h cscope-win32

HTH,
Dave

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Re: edit-with-vim context menu item disappeared with vim7 upgrade

2006-07-21 Thread Thomas

My next step, I suppose is to review all the relevant registry keys,
but I wanted to see if there were other thoughts on this...?


At least in the source, there is a GvimExt.reg file. You can edit this 
file (add absolute paths) and add it to the registry (double-clicking on 
it should do that). install.exe appears to be kind of non-working here.


Thomas.



Re: Making :grep easier to use

2006-07-02 Thread thomas scott urban
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 12:32 -0800, David Frey wrote:
 Often times I am looking at a file and there is a certain string sitting
 infront of me that I want to grep for.
 
 Right now, I go into command mode and type
 :grep some_string *.extension
 
 Is it possible to yank some_string and then paste it into the command? 
 It would save me a lot of typing when I am grepping for strings.

On the command line

C-R

insert the contents of the unnamed yank buffer. 

:he c_C-R


 Thanks



Preserving undo through save

2006-06-30 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

Hello!

I'm not sure if it was always the case or if this is a recent change
(through vim 7). I am not able to undo anything after saving a file.
Is this normal? What settings are involved? How can I change this
behaviour? The help-file for undo is pretty silent regarding this.

Regards,

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Re: Preserving undo through save

2006-06-30 Thread Thomas Michael Engelke

2006/6/30, Michael Naumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Do you have
:set hidden

If not, you should.

HTH, Michael

On Friday 30 June 2006 11:59, Thomas Michael Engelke wrote:
 Hello!

 I'm not sure if it was always the case or if this is a recent change
 (through vim 7). I am not able to undo anything after saving a file.
 Is this normal? What settings are involved? How can I change this
 behaviour? The help-file for undo is pretty silent regarding this.


I'm not sure if I made my problem perfectly clear.

I have a file. I edit it, deleting a line. I can then u and Ctrl-R
these changes to no end. I undo once and redo once, ending up with the
original file. I use :w to save the buffer. I use u and get the
message Bereits bei der ältesten Änderung (rougly: Already at
oldest change).

Edit: Amazing. Restarting vim did the trick. I'll keep my eyes open
for another occurence. Problem solved.

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Re: Possible bug in window placement after changing buffers

2006-06-27 Thread Thomas Mellman
--- A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thomas Mellman wrote:
When moving from buffer to buffer using
the :bp and :bn commands, vim normally positions the file and cursor
such that the last line visited is presented in the middle of the
screen and the cursor is on that line.
  
In certain circumstances, however, it does not do this.  In those
circumstances, when one opens the file, the cursor is indeed placed
on the last line visited - but that line is positioned at the bottom
of the window.
  
This apparently only happens when syntax is on - but for all (tested)
syntaxes.
  
Now, in particular, this happens if the cursor is positioned on the
line of the file that falls within a range starting at the window
height.  The extent of this range appears to be a function of the file
length - for example, in one case, the window height is 70 lines.  The
range causing the problem starts at line 70 of the file and - for very
long files - extents to line 104.  When the cursor is place on line 105,
moving into the buffer causes the last line to be positioned in the
middle of the window.  When the cursor is placed on line 104, reentering
the buffer puts the line at the bottom of the window.
  
In this particular case, if the file is longer than 104
lines but shorter than 139 lines, the event happens anywhere after
line 69 - but note that only lines 35-104 would be required to display
line 70 in the middle of the window.
 
 See :help 'scrolloff'.
 
 Setting 'scrolloff' to a large number (large enough to always be larger 
 than half the value of 'lines') will always keep the cursor line near 
 the middle of the screen, except when it is in the very first or last 
 few lines of the file (e.g., the first line of the file will never start 
 lower than the first line of the window).

This method seems to change the behaviour of the cursor so that cursor stays
in middle of the screen and the file moves.  That's something different.

What I'm seeing is clearly a bug, because vim behaves in a non-logical
manner.  There's some problem with the positioning algorithm with respect
to window and file boundaries.

There's no reason for the cursor to dive to the bottom of the window in
certain positional situations and not in others.

Now, it's clear - if there's not enough lines to position the cursor in
the center of the screen, it would be logical that the line couldn't be
positioned in the middle.  But that's not the problem.
The problem happens when there *are* enough lines.


 You could also use z. (zed-fullstop or zee-period depending on your 
 flavour of English) in Normal mode, to move just once the cursor line 
 to the middle.


Ah, what do you mean with just once?  That's exactly the problem: I
have to z. everytime I visit the file.  If I'm comparing a pivot spot
in 5 files (the source code, the data output, the include file definition,
the specification document, and my notes file, for example), certain files
- at certain positions - will have to be z.-ed every time they're revisited.



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Possible bug in window placement after changing buffers

2006-06-25 Thread Thomas Mellman
  When moving from buffer to buffer using
  the :bp and :bn commands, vim normally positions the file and cursor
  such that the last line visited is presented in the middle of the
  screen and the cursor is on that line.

  In certain circumstances, however, it does not do this.  In those
  circumstances, when one opens the file, the cursor is indeed placed
  on the last line visited - but that line is positioned at the bottom
  of the window.

  This apparently only happens when syntax is on - but for all (tested)
  syntaxes.

  Now, in particular, this happens if the cursor is positioned on the
  line of the file that falls within a range starting at the window
  height.  The extent of this range appears to be a function of the file
  length - for example, in one case, the window height is 70 lines.  The
  range causing the problem starts at line 70 of the file and - for very
  long files - extents to line 104.  When the cursor is place on line 105,
  moving into the buffer causes the last line to be positioned in the
  middle of the window.  When the cursor is placed on line 104, reentering
  the buffer puts the line at the bottom of the window.

  In this particular case, if the file is longer than 104
  lines but shorter than 139 lines, the event happens anywhere after
  line 69 - but note that only lines 35-104 would be required to display
  line 70 in the middle of the window.


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[FAO]: Tim Chase: :g/^/+,/^[EMAIL PROTECTED]/-1! par 72q (formatting email).

2006-06-20 Thread Thomas Adam
Hello All,

(Tim -- apologise for the broadcast announcement, but you were the original
person who gave me this solution).

Some time ago, I asked a question on this list about reformatting lines of
text (lines in an email reply).  Tim Chase was kind enough to give me a
rather thorough break-down which I published in the Linux Gazette
(http://linuxgazette.net/108/tag/1.html).  The idea behind it was to reformat
all lines that started with  to a width of 72 characters, and for any
split lines that occured once that had been done, to add a  at the start
of the line.  Indeed, from that I came up with this:

:g/^/+,/^[EMAIL PROTECTED]/-1! par 72q

Which works fine -- almost.  The one niggle I have with it is that if an
email I am replying to has a shell-script snippet (example as it appears in
an email I am replying to):

 ``
 #!/bin/sh
 some_command 
 other_command 
 ''

What happens in the email after formatting is I see this:

 ``#!/bin/sh some_command  other_command ''

I don't want this, since I have to then go through the block by hand and undo
it -- it's especially annoying since the formatting of things like
code-snippets when you need to critique them is important.

Of course, I assume this to be the correct behaviour for the command that's
formatting this -- and it _is_ doing what it has been asked.  But I don't
understand why it happens for the example above (and other examples).  I'd
have expected it to happen for ALL lines in an email, i.e.:

 some text  other text  more text

But that's not the case (luckily).

So my question is, what is it about the command:

:g/^/+,/^[EMAIL PROTECTED]/-1! par 72q

Which causes this to happen?  I've tried changing it but the result is always
the same.

Many thanks in advance for any hints you might be able to provide.

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Re: Tim Chase: :g/^/+,/^[EMAIL PROTECTED]/-1! par 72q (formatting email).

2006-06-20 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As to why it does correctly handle  quoting, par was built to 
 handle such cases, so it gracefully considers leader 
 characters.  By default, I believe par considers whitespace, a 
  and the pipe character as its default set of leader 
 characters that it will treat in a similar fashion.

Ah.  I might have read something like this in par's somewhat limited
documentation.  Although I freely admit that I find par very confusing
indeed, even though it is very useful for tasks such as this.

 The par utility is a rather complex tool with piles of nobs and 
 dials for the twiddling.  In most cases, the default does what is 
 wanted.  However, I don't believe there's any intelligent way 
 for it to detect scripts within quoted text.

I thought as much.  What I might do is (as you say) look at trying to see
if there are any markers which define where the shell-code is and change
the regexps.  I know of two cases where this is likely to be the case, so
I'll keep you posted.

 To see what's going on, simply write an excerpt of a quoted 
 script to a file and simply run it through par, as Vim is doing 
 for each block in question.  You'll notice that par is what is 
 doing the mangling.  For just reformatting purpose, it's 
 conceivable to use vim's internal reformatting--however, it too 
 lacks the superpowers to discern code from non-code in a quotation.

I should point out that it's not just shell code that exhibits this
problem -- but you're right -- it's most likely par treating various
leaders characters.

 The short answer, sadly, is I'm afraid there's no nice way to do 
 this.

No worries, I'll just have to convert it back by hand.  :)

Thank you as always, Tim.

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Re: Comments/Additional Notes for scripts

2006-06-19 Thread Thomas

The comments section for vimtips is not very reliable (who goes
back every day to see if his tips have got a new comment added to
them?). Since vim-online scripts (unlike tips) require logging in, if
you have a comment you can email the maintainer.


A forum that generates an rss feed for new postings for tips  comments
 discussion could turn out to be useful. As the vim site is hosted by
sf.net, one (i.e. one of the vim project developers) could, for a start, 
create a forum for scripts and tips and maybe allow anonymous posting -- 
although sf.net forums have some minor usability issues.


I think people usually write plugin authors only when the plugin stops 
working. With new/unknown plugins, I assume the decision would rather be 
to uninstall the plugin. An anonymous forum would probably lower the 
threshold to give feedback -- if this really is what you want :-).




Re: VIM: map seq.s must be typed slowly

2006-06-16 Thread Thomas Mellman
I have discovered some interesting additional information about this problem:

- The problem occurs with my mappings, e.g.:
:map ]v *
:map ]t ^t
  etc.

- The problem does NOT occur with the following mappings:
:map aa *
:map )V *
  I can type this as fast as I want and it jumps to the
  next occurance of the word under the cursor

I tried turning off showmatch, but it didn't help.
Is there something special about [ and ]?

I'm currently runnig version 6.3.84

--- Thomas Mellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After upgrading to a new version of VIM a while back, I
 have now to type key-sequences slowly, or I get a visual bell
 (and no sequence recognized).  Does anybody know what changed
 to cause this, and how I can turn it off?
 
 
 For example, I use the '[' and ']' keys to introduce various
 shortcuts (e.g. ]v and [v find the next or previous
 occurance of the word under the cursor).  But now I have to
 always wait 500ms - 1000ms or my sequence is aborted.
 
 I looked at timeout and ttimeout, but they seem to be for the
 opposite case - making sure that VIM waits for the typist before
 attempting to interpret.  I can't discern an effect on typing
  too fast .
 
 I can't see why there should be a problem if the keys are already
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Re: URL-Encoding

2006-06-14 Thread Thomas

Johannes Schwarz wrote:
Is there a builtin url-encoding function available in vim? 


Or has s.o. wrote a script already?


Do you mean something like this (based on code from eval.txt):


fun! EncodeChar(char)
if a:char == '%'
return '%%'
elseif a:char == ' '
return '+'
else
 Taken from eval.txt
let n = char2nr(a:char)
let r = ''
while n
let r = '0123456789ABCDEF'[n % 16] . r
let n = n / 16
endwhile
return '%'. r
endif
endf

fun! EncodeURL(url)
return substitute(a:url, '\([^a-zA-Z0-9_.-]\)', 
'\=EncodeChar(submatch(1))', 'g')
endf


Cheers,
Thomas.



E108: No such variable: b:current_syntax

2006-06-05 Thread Thomas Schumm
I had been getting this error (or something very similar) for a while now when 
editing PHP files, but now I'm also getting it when editing Cheetah 
templates.

-
Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim70/syntax/html.vim:
line  200:
E108: No such variable: b:current_syntax
-

Is it a bug in the syntax file?  Is there something strange about my 
configuration that could be triggering this?  I've been hacking up 
the /usr/share/.../html.vim file to make it check for the existence of that 
variable before it unlets it, but obviously, that gets changed back every 
time I upgrade vim.  I'd like to find a more permanent fix.

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vim7: vimball (was: vim7: formatoptions)

2006-05-31 Thread Thomas

Please try the netrw v100j from my website:

 http://mysite.verizon.net/astronaut/vim/index.html#VimFuncs  , see 
Network Oriented Reading, Writing, and Browsing.


May I ask: Does vimball provide a way to uninstall a vimball? If not, 
maybe a vimball's contents (or a list of the files created) should be 
saved in, e.g., ~/.vim/vimballs/NAME.lst so that one could at least feed 
this file to rm afterwards as in: rm `cat LST`. A :VimballUninstall 
command would be helpful too. With more complex plugins, it could be 
necessary to uninstall a vimball before installing a new version in 
order to avoid zombie files.


I think this would be helpful if vimballs gain ground and when 
temporarily installing plugins/vimballs that are actually part of the 
vim standard distribution. Also, this would allow to get a quick 
overview over installed vimballs (:!ls ~/.vim/vimballs/*.lst).


Regards,
Thomas.



vim7: formatoptions

2006-05-19 Thread Thomas

Hi,

I just realized that editing a directory removes t from formatoptions. E.g.

set formatoptions+=rw
fo = tcqrw
e Foo
fo = tcqrw
e .
fo = cqrw
e Bar
fo = cqrw

This doesn't happen with the --noplugin switch so I'd assume that some 
standard vim plugin is causing this -- maybe netrw? Can somebody verify 
this?


Regards,
Thomas.



Patch for AsNeeded to define proxy commands

2006-05-10 Thread Thomas

Hi,

Here is a small patch for AsNeeded that eliminates the need to call 
AN(X) for commands. It creates a file called ~/.vim/AsNeeded/ANautoload 
that contains lines like:


command! -range -nargs=* Command delcommand Command | ANX Command

Regards,
Thomas.
--- AsNeeded.vim2006-05-10 20:48:42.442003200 +0200
+++ /cygdrive/f/.vim/plugin/AsNeeded.vim2006-05-10 20:45:13.381388800 
+0200
@@ -227,6 +227,14 @@
   return -1
 endfun
 
+fun! SIDAutoloadFilename(vimfiles)
+return substitute(a:vimfiles,'AsNeeded.*','AsNeeded/ANautoload','e')
+endf
+
+fun! SIDVimfiles()
+return substitute(globpath(rtp,AsNeeded/*.vim),'\n',',',ge)
+endf
+
  -
  MakeANtags: makes the (optional) ANtags file {{{1
 fun! MakeANtags()
@@ -265,8 +273,9 @@
-
search for all commands, maps, and functions: {{{2
-
-  let vimfiles= substitute(globpath(rtp,AsNeeded/*.vim),'\n',',',ge)
+  let vimfiles= SIDVimfiles()
   let ANtags  = substitute(vimfiles,'AsNeeded.*','AsNeeded/ANtags','e')
+  let ANautoloads = SIDAutoloadFilename(vimfiles)
   let first   = 1
   call Decho(ANtags.ANtags.)
 
@@ -323,7 +332,12 @@
 
let vimfile= 
   endwhile
+  exec 'silent edit '. ANtags
+  silent v/^c\t/d
+  silent %s/^c\t\(.\{-}\)\t.*$/command! -range -nargs=* \1 delcommand \1 | ANX 
\1/
+  exe 'silent w! '. ANautoloads
   q!
+  exec 'silent source '. ANautoloads
 
--
restore registers and settings {{{2
@@ -336,6 +350,11 @@
   call Dret(MakeANtags)
 endfun
 
+let s:autoloads = SIDAutoloadFilename(SIDVimfiles())
+if filereadable(s:autoloads)
+exec 'silent source '. s:autoloads
+endif
+
  -
  SaveSettings: {{{1
 fun! s:SaveSettings()


Behavior of synIDattr() varies

2006-05-06 Thread Thomas Haselwanter

Hi,

Vims excellent script support just asks to be exploited, and I am in the 
process of putting 2html.vim to use. I have been getting different 
results from this script, which I've tracked down to synIDattr() 
returning different attribute values for given syntax IDs depending upon 
the environment from which vim is called.


Calling

/usr/bin/vim -e +syntax on +set syntax=c +run! syntax/2html.vim 
+wq +q /tmp/helloworld.c


from the command line results in a different HTML file than calling it 
via a system call from within mod_perl. In particular synIDattr() 
doesn't return 1 anymore for the attribute bold and for the fg 
attribute it maps to different cterm colors, even two different colors 
to the same cterm color which weakens the highlighting effect. This is 
not a switch from 8 cterm colors to 16 or vice versa, both work with 8 
colors.


I realize that this may possibly need to be fixed in mod_perl and not 
vim, but at this stage I'm just fishing for pointers what might cause 
synIDattr() to behave differently. I've verified this behavior in vim 
6.3 and the latest 7.0 beta. Any ideas?


Thomas



Re: Symbolic links to Vim plugins not working for Cygwin

2006-04-26 Thread Thomas

Windows shortcuts are different things than cygwin symlinks.


There is an option though to make cygwin symlinks be windows shortcuts 
but these need some attribute (R I think) to be set. I don't know if 
this help in this situation though.


Thomas.



Re: VIM: map seq.s must be typed slowly

2006-04-23 Thread Thomas Mellman
--- Yegappan Lakshmanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On 4/22/06, Thomas Mellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For example, I use the '[' and ']' keys to introduce various
  shortcuts
 
  (e.g. ]v and [v find the next or previous
  occurance of the word under the cursor).
 
 
 You can use * to search forward for word under cursor and
 # to search backward for word under cursor.
 

Thank you.  In fact, that's what my sequences map to.  It's
just that I find that I can type [v and ]v faster then I can type
the # and * (which are shifted on a US keyboard).  Too fast,
I'm afraid.  But that's new (within the last year).  I've been
using those mappings for many years.


 - Yegappan
 


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Re: ruby-script editing, execution cycle ?

2006-04-23 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Write a ruby script (not related to vim itsself) in vim, then
  evetually save the script to a file, execute the script with ruby
  interpreter while getting the output (stdout + stderr) into another
  vim buffer, fix the bugs in the script, save the script eventually
  and so forth...

:h quickfix

This effectively evaluates your program, and informs you of any errors. 
However, you might find the following post of use.  I sent this to the
vim-ruby mailing list:

http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vim-ruby-devel/2006q1/000459.html

It explains some useful evaluative techniques that I use.

-- Thomas Adam



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