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Re: anyone use type in braille app?

2012-06-15 Thread Rob Harris

I agree with all this, explanations and all.
As stated, type all you like in this, then  have it copied to clipboard so 
you can go paste it in anything, including search fields if you like.
- Original Message - 
From: Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:06 AM
Subject: RE: anyone use type in braille app?

Rebecca, I wrote an explanation of Type In braille that some apparently
found helpful. I am pasting it below in case it helps you. Please let me
know if you have questions. It takes some getting used to but I think that
for us dedicated Braille readers it's great.

Sandy
First off you have to turn the Braille cell on its side in your mind. Don't
think of it as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; rather, 1, 4; 2, 5; 3, 6. You need to tell
the app what you want to do with all three of those rows for each letter.
A one-finger tap in a row says you want one dot; two fingers says two dots
in that row and a three-finger tap says no dots in that row.  So the way he
describes A initially is:
 1 one-finger tap for the top row
One three-finger tap for the second row
One three-finger tap for the third.

But all you really need to do is the one one-finger tap for the top row, and
then flick one finger to the right. This flicking gesture tells
Type-In-Braille that you are done with that character. This speeds you up
considerably.
B is two one-finger taps followed by a  one-finger right flick.
C is a two-finger tap, just like a Braille c, followed by the right flick.

It takes some practice; K, for instance, is tricky. But  I also like the way
I can edit in it, going back and forth, one letter or word at a time. It
tells me what I am deleting, unlike VO on the phone keypad.

Type-In Braille is meant only for typing text which is then selected and
copied into something else, like an e-mail or Facebook. You cannot do e-mail
addresses or type in search  boxes.

I am so far finding this faster than typing on the keypad on the phone.

Sorry for this long explanation; HTH.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: anyone use type in braille app?

Hi all.  Has anyone used this app?  If so what's the easiest typing method?
I listened to the description and couldn't follow very well.
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Rebecca and Zeb
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Re: Navigon

2012-06-15 Thread Sandra Heaton


Hi Mike,

Navigon is OK to a point it is not as good as a trekker breeze.  But it is 
very handy if you want to know where you are.  Although it doesn't speak the 
names of streets as you are going along, but, you can put a postcode in and 
it will take you to your destination.  Its not perfect by any means but its 
better than having nothing at all.  Whether it will improve as time goes by 
who knows.





Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Cassidy mike.cassidy...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:22 PM
Subject: Navigon



Hi Folks,

I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating is
only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do people
find Navigon worth the expenditure?

Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
Navigon or similar?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Regards,

Mike

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Re: Navigon

2012-06-15 Thread Sandra Heaton

Hello,

I found this to be very useful thank you.

Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Navigon

Hello John and others,

Yes, Navigon can be used in Pedestrian mode. I agree with Raul, Navigon is a
good app and works reasonably well with Voiceover, but it has a bit of a
learning curve and I think most people who post on here that it's useless and
is not Voiceover friendly just haven't taken the time to play around with it.
Below is a bit of a write-up I sent to somebody else a while ago and maybe you
find it useful, I am giving some examples which were relevant for that list
member and I haven't changed them because it really doesn't matter which places
I use as an example. Also, the descriptions of screens and settings I use are
based on the latest version of Navigon.

Before you give up on Navigon it really is important to understand the app.
As somebody pointed out before, you can input a route by entering in an address
or a POI which typically is a restaurant, gas station, store etc. If you want
to enter an address you can’t enter the entire address at once, e.g. you can’t
just type 1234 Washington Street into the edit field, it is a multi-step
process where first you pick the Map (if you have several installed you may
have to pick Florida etc.). Once that is done it asks you for the city. You
live in Pensacola, so if you start typing “Pensa” Pensacola should show up in a
list, the fewer letters you type the more options are on the list, for example,
if you live somewhere where you have towns like Clifton, Clydsdale, Clearwater,
Clearfield, Clearbrook, if you were to type “cl, all of these would be in the
list, if you type “c l e”, only the 3 choices starting with “clear” show in the
list and if you type “clearw” only Clearwater would be left. You can, at any
time, check the list and double tap on the city you want if it is in the list.
Once you do that the next screen comes up and this says “Street in Pensacola
text field”, as long as you selected Pensacola as your city. If you keep
flicking right you see a list of all streets in Pensacola sorted
alphabetically. Double tap the edit field so you can start entering text and
enter, in your case, “St” or “Star” and then make sure “Stark Avenue” or “Stark
Ave” is listed and double tap to select it.
Especially with streets it is important to pick from the list since you never
know if the complete name is “Stark Ave”, “Stark Avenue” etc. In some towns you
may have the same street name with a “W” or “E” at the end for “West” and
“East”, but if you typed the name spelling out “West” it may not recognize it
because it only wants “W”. Once you see your street on the list, double tap it
and now you have the option to either enter a house number or cross
street/intersection. VoiceOver announces “Text Field is Editing, Character
Mode, No/Intersection in Stark Avenue”. Once again this is assuming you
selected Stark Avenue and that your rotor setting is set to character, not word.

If you flick right, you’ll find a list of intersections listed and if you
double tap on one it would navigate to that intersection. Anyhow, enter your
house number and press the “Done” button at the very bottom right of the
onscreen keyboard.

Now the very top left option will read like this:

No. Back Button

This means if you double tap here it will go back one screen back to where
you can enter the number. Pressing back on that screen will go back to where
you can enter/select the street name, back again will go to the city etc.

If you flick right once you will have the “Start Navigation” button. Flick
right once more and it will read you the full address with city, zip code etc.
that you entered.

Press “Start Navigation”, then flick right on the next screen, here you have
your second “Start Navigation”. If you flick right again here (you would have
to do this fairly quickly, it will give you one or more distances. These are
the possible routes you can select. If you press “Start Navigation”, it will
select whatever preference you have chosen, e.g. Shortest, Fastest, Scenic etc.
This is somewhere in Settings and I typically have this set to “Shortest”.

If you don’t do anything for maybe 10 seconds, it will start navigation
automatically based on your preferences. Now start walking and it should start
giving you voice announcements on where to turn etc. If you touch the screen at
the very bottom just up from the Home Key (where you normally would touch to
unlock your phone), it may say a street name and typically this is the name of
whichever street you turn on at your first turn. Flick left once here and it
will give you a distance and that is the distance to that turn, if you double
tap the distance it repeats

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