Re: Apple is on it!
I just downloaded the 10.7 version of iTunes for mac os xÎ, and it looks no different than previous versions. On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Scott Van Gorp wrote: Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
If Apple will continue as is on naking its products accessible is exactly wasI was asking myself awhile ago, especially with the talk these past few days on here about the App store breaking Voiceover accessible, as I asked myself what could I expect on ny next IPhone in Febuary of 2014 when this IPhone's contract expires, and seeking a new IPhone comes into the picture? As long as the IPhone continues to be accessible for us the blind, I've had such awesome experience with so much one can accomplish(once passing the frustration phase all new IUsers go through) that I wouldn't go back to Nokia with Talks! Enviado desde mi iPhone El 17/09/2012, a las 23:15, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com escribió: Hello, First, don't confuse timelines. Original Android accessibility was only with physical buttons and keyboards, and this was after VO was released on the iPhone. Before VO was released on the iPhone, it was known that accessibility was not very possible on a touch-screen. In other words, the limited possibilities for touch-screen access were obviously impossible and expensive, so the ADA was satisfied because it was not practical to have blindness accessibility. The possible access was limited and easily arguably too expensive, so meaningless. Therefore, businesses and government were only required to provide a partially accessible alternative. This meant, the blind person would get a basic cell phone with buttons that could be felt, and if necessary, a laptop or netbook running a screen reader, or an accessible note taker such as BrailleNote or PACMate. Code Factory did not make enough of an impact to change the government register (yes, I checked in 2008), so slight accommodation was perfectly acceptible and met the law. Windows Phone Seven became inaccessible, yet Microsoft did not lose any government contracts over it. Therefore, we can easily argue that the lack of accessibility in the mobile phone market meant no companies would lose government contracts. The TeleCommunications Act said at least an entry level usably accessible phone needs to be provided by each carrier. This does not mean each phone manufacturer was required to make an accessible version, and the provided phone just needed to be useable, not all of its advanced features need to be accessible. I did clarify this information with an accessibility law specialist in 2008. As for the case of the Kindle, this happened in 2010 at Arizona State University. ASU required Kindles for certain classes and did not provide any accessible alternatives. Amazon could not argue that accessibility was impossible in a handheld device because, as was successfully argued, Apple's VoiceOver made the iPhone and the iPad fully accessible. Therefore, Amazon developed an accessible Kindle. It should be noted that the accessible Kindle has buttons and no touch screen, and the newest models, according to information I have recently received, are not accessible. Even Blackberry phones were inaccessible and Rim did not lose any government or business contracts because of it. Rim started having other problems, but that was not related, in any way, to their lack of accessibility. The fact is, Apple completely changed the paradigm around accessibility, and they are still significantly ahead of the competition. Will this continue? Only time can answer that question. However, Apple's pattern since 2005 speaks for itself, and gives me high confidence that it will continue in to the foreseeable future. The only other company which I have similar confidence about at this time is Google's Android, and my confidence is not as high. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 15:09, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know Apple wouldn't have lost any educational or governmental contracts if they hadn't made IOS accessible? I recall a situation where the DoJ blocked the use of Kindles (at least I think it was Kindles) to distribute text books as ebooks. Plus, more and more businesses are using and requiring their employees to use cell phones and tablets. I could definitely see a situation where Apple would be losing sales of iPhones and iPads to small businesses, governments agencies and educational institutions if Android were an accessible option and IOS hadn't been made accessible. Of course, Apple deserves the credit for being ahead of that curve and doing it in such an innovative way. I'm not sure Windows Phone 7 is much of a counter example at the moment. I doubt they've lost any contracts due to a lack of accessibility, but I figure it's more likely that they're just such a niche player right now that they're just not considered a viable option yet. On 17/09/12 21:41, David Chittenden wrote: Hello, Please forgive my cynicism in my
Itunes install problem
Hello List I still can not install iTunes 10.7. Apparently there should be a file, iTunes.msi, somewhere in a directory which iTunes use to uninstall the previous version. For some unknown reason this directory got deleted on my PC and now The latest version can not install because it needs that file. I tried to copy the iTunes.msi from my laptop but it is a later version of iTunes that is on my PC, so the install does not accept it. I can't believe that Apple makes it so difficult and I don't want to format the drive and install everything just to get iTunes going again. I tried to delete all the stuff concerning Apple and iTunes but the install does not handle it as a first install. Can anyone think of a solution? Regards Fanus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
moderator reminder about straying posts - Was Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
Hi! I don't think this thread is off topic. That's because this shows us how good IOS really is!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question
Hi, You've been given some conflicting advice here but I'm going to side with Daniel. If history repeats itsself (Which we have no reason to believe won't happen), you should have upto a week to downgrade back to 5.1.1; after this time has passed downgrading will not be possible. Restoring from a backup won't work though; you'll need to download the 5.1.1 ipsw for your device which is easily and legally obtainable and force itunes to install it by pressing shift space on the update button then browsing to the ipsw. Once it's done, you should be able to restore from a backup to get your settings apps back. Cheers, Ben. On 9/18/12, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: No it would not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:45 PM To: Viphone Subject: revert to previous iOS procedure question Hi, I am considering upgrading my iphone 4 to iOS 6 but thinking of down-grading if it is too slow or maps don't work nicely. If I restore to backup from previous day would this return 5.1.1? Thanks for your help. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.comhttp://www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: can I label a screen shot?
Everything in the camera roll is in date/time order, so, as long as you get in there right away, it'll be the one at the end. I've not tried renaming I have to say. - Original Message - From: Jodie Hoger joho...@internode.on.net To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:46 AM Subject: can I label a screen shot? Hi List, I have worked out that if I take a screen shot of an image PDF that has been emailed to me, I can then go into one of my ocr apps like image to text and find the photo and have it converted to text for me. I was very excited to have worked this out however I am wondering whether there is a way of labelling the screen shot so it is easier to find in my camera roll? thanks, Jo Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple is on it!
Nice one! Regards, Sandra Braille Greeting Cards www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk - Original Message - From: Scott Van Gorp To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:01 AM Subject: Apple is on it! Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Apple is on it!
Good very good. Thanks to all who have kept the list informed of possible issues with the app store. And thanks to those who are beta testers and must have made the situation known to the Apple developers. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 01:53 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple is on it! Yes! Much, much better now, even to the extent that the update button, when pressed changes its status to waiting and downloading as the update process proceeds. I was able to flick through the results of a search, and double tapping on that result gave me the app I was expecting. Today versus yesterday is like day versus night. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Van Gorp Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012 5:28 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple is on it! I don't have 6.0, so all I'm doing here is reporting what Applevis has tweeted. I guess we'll see what happens in 24 hours or so. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple is on it! Try all of them, from what I can see. The stores are supposed to auto-scrol themselves, rendering the scrolling gestures of VoiceOver inopperable. Keep in mind, though, that's the intended behavior. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Van Gorp Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple is on it! Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: zelo
Ok, I conclude *I have ano lder version than the rest of you; this option is not in my settings. What is a good modern stable version? do we have to pay again?... can't remember if I paid the first time. R! - Original Message - From: Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: Re: zelo Hi Rob The setting is there. It is just called Remote Control. It needs to be turned on. It is under the heading Audio. All the settings are on one page under various headings. You will firstly find a heading called Audio Alerts. The setting you mentioned finding called Talk button up, is under this heading. Next there are a group of settings under the Heading Vibration and then further settings under Visual alerts and finally there is a heading called Audio. It is this last heading you are looking for. The option you want is the first setting under this heading and it's called remote control. When you have it toggle on, you will be able to use either the play pause button on your head phone controls too start and stop broadcasting or the two finger double tap that you initially asked about. BTW the, talk button up, setting you mentioned finding controls whether or not you hear a beep when you stop broadcasting. Anyone wanting to can add me to their contacts on Zello also. My handle is just iBlindTech. I have also setup an iBlindTech channel and I spend some time each day on the app. There is a good community of Blind and vision impaired tech enthusiasts developing on the various channels. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 6:36 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I found no such setting, and for sure this gesture doesn't work for me. I found one called - Talk button up - whose purpose puzzled me, a toggle, but didn't want to toggle until I knew what it did. The Help proved not to be that helpful either. Sigh! R! - Original Message - From: Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:54 AM Subject: Re: zelo Hi Jeff Just have a look in the settings and you will find one something about the remote control, just enable this and you'll be able to use the two finger double tap to start broadcasting and the same gesture to stop. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 1:08 PM, jeffry miller fafa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was wondering does anyone know of a setting you can change in the latest zello that will allow you to tap the talk button and talk without holding the screen, and when finished you can then tap it again, to release it? -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
A new info about accessibility of appstore
Hi all http://www.applevis.com/applevis-blog/advocacy/apple-makes-last-minute-accessibility-fixes-app-store-ahead-ios-6-release -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Episode 22 of iBlindTech is up: Looking at Scrubbers
Hi, this weeks episode is just a quick one in which I look at using scrubbers with the double tap and hold gesture. Episode Link: http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-022-Scrubbers.mp3 Or check out the site with the details below my signature. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Theresa, I'm not sure what you mean by the capitalist economy since all economies are capitalist in nature. In fact I'd argue that without capitalism Apple would not have any incentive to consider accessibility. I'm not sure where charities fit into this conversation either. The fact is APple chose to make accessibility a core component of their business model because APple decided at some point that everyone should have equal access. Regardless of how small a market segment the disable population is, Apple has made the commitment and will continue to do so. Just as app developers have responded in most cases very favorably to making their apps accessible. I suspect it is not just because it is the right thing to do, but because there is a segment of the market that could be tapped for sales. Capitalism really is a good thing because it gives people the incentive to strive for your money. :) On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The issue of blind folk and touch screens is quite fascinating. I've always had trouble with spatial orientation, and if it weren't for the constant audible feedback, I'd get losT on a Magic Trackpad for the Mac or the screen on my IPOD. That said, I am really beginning to appreciate the spatial plcement, and I'm getting much more comfortable with it. As for Apple's accessibility commitment, I think it's fantastic, but in a capitalist economy, it can only go so far, unless charities step in and help, or unless Apfle had various foundations for the purpose. I reY wouldn't have guessed this level of accessibility would exist a few years back, and frankly, this is why I buy Apple products. I support this commitment with my wallet. :) Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts. On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote: David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Please can anyone help, 35 gb of other on my iphone4s
I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with my query, it saved me a lot of time, so thanks so much to all. -Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please can anyone help, 35 gb of other on my iphone4s If you want to restore, simply do it on the device alone. Go to settings, general, reset, erase all content and settings. Sent from my mac On 14 Sep 2012, at 09:13, Donna Slater donnaslater...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Whilst synching my iphone yesterday with itunes my computer crashed and all my purchased videos disappeared off into the land of other. Is the only way I can recover this to restore my iphone? If so, do I have to go through the nausea of allowing Apple to download a software update even though my phone is up to date? I don’t have the update on my pc because I updated over the air. Any help with this would be gratefully received. With best regards Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A new info about accessibility of appstore
Well this proves the point that Apple are still committed to accessibility. I didn't understand the fuss in the first place, never will. If the fix has not been included, I would just update apps on my mac then sync to my phone. It is certainly easier to do it on the phone but my motto is this, when there's a will there's a way. On 18/09/2012 11:26, blue wings wrote: Hi all http://www.applevis.com/applevis-blog/advocacy/apple-makes-last-minute-accessibility-fixes-app-store-ahead-ios-6-release -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Itunes install problem
Have you tried getting iTunes from ninite? www.ninite.com/itunes On 18/09/2012 08:40, Fanus wrote: Hello List I still can not install iTunes 10.7. Apparently there should be a file, iTunes.msi, somewhere in a directory which iTunes use to uninstall the previous version. For some unknown reason this directory got deleted on my PC and now The latest version can not install because it needs that file. I tried to copy the iTunes.msi from my laptop but it is a later version of iTunes that is on my PC, so the install does not accept it. I can't believe that Apple makes it so difficult and I don't want to format the drive and install everything just to get iTunes going again. I tried to delete all the stuff concerning Apple and iTunes but the install does not handle it as a first install. Can anyone think of a solution? Regards Fanus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Hello all speaking of the sighted I tell sighted iPhone or other iDevice users about VoiceOver and they are just amazed, some to the extent that they are delighted in what Apple has done even though they may never have met a disabled person in their lives. So I am spreading the word for sure. On 18/09/2012 06:30, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Joanne, Apple stresses accessibility as a concept which means not just accessibility for the blind or visually impaired, but also for those with hearing impairments, physical impairments and even those with mental and learning disabilities. Throw all of those numbers in a pot and they are not so small and they do generate good will from those who care about this. Include all the families and friends of those who benefit from accessible iPhones and iDevices and while not everybody may buy an iPhone because his or her blind aunt, nephew or Grandpa can benefit, some may be influenced by this and the numbers grow even further. In any case, I think Apple has made a commitment, made this commitment public and they will continue to stick with it. Hopefully their example may result in others following in their footsteps. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6] Hi David, If that is the case of what you said, we poor blind people, why Apple should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products? Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly to people with access needs. Just a thought Regards Joanne On 18/09/2012, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts. On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote: David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google
Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer
Greetings to the list. I would like to copy all of the pictures on my iPhone 3GS to a folder on my Windows 7 PC. When I connect the iPhone, it appears as a drive under Windows Explorer, and I can navigate to a folder with a cryptic name which seems to contain all of the images on the phone. I can read the filename of each picture, but if I copy the contents to the clipboard after selecting it, I cannot paste it into a Windows folder with the Control-V keyboard command. The Windows folder appears empty. Can someone suggest a remedy? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Itunes install problem
I just did the 10.7 install and had no issues. -Original Message- From: Chris Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Itunes install problem Have you tried getting iTunes from ninite? www.ninite.com/itunes On 18/09/2012 08:40, Fanus wrote: Hello List I still can not install iTunes 10.7. Apparently there should be a file, iTunes.msi, somewhere in a directory which iTunes use to uninstall the previous version. For some unknown reason this directory got deleted on my PC and now The latest version can not install because it needs that file. I tried to copy the iTunes.msi from my laptop but it is a later version of iTunes that is on my PC, so the install does not accept it. I can't believe that Apple makes it so difficult and I don't want to format the drive and install everything just to get iTunes going again. I tried to delete all the stuff concerning Apple and iTunes but the install does not handle it as a first install. Can anyone think of a solution? Regards Fanus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voice book vo
FYI: Voicebook VO isn't intended to be a full Facebook client. It's strength is that it lets you get through the newsfeed very very quickly. I'm adding more features, but if you want something that is full featured right now, you'll have to consider other clients like the Facebook official app. Ben On Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:09:26 AM UTC-5, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Hi all: I'm using the voicebook vo, but it can not suits my needs, I can't find many many things, can't we find better program, or will it be updated? Thanks in advance Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.mo...@gmail.com javascript: Msn and aim messengers: flute...@link.net javascript: Studio email: harmonys...@gmail.com javascript: facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: mousta...@gmail.com javascript: youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Deleting appp updates?
Not as far as I know unless you delete the app entirely. On 18/09/2012 02:26, David Gross wrote: There is a update in the appvstore I don't want. Can it be deleted? Using vo and Iphone 3gs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Voice book vo
Thanks so much for your help Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: mailto:flutelo...@link.net flutelo...@link.net Studio email: mailto:harmonystudio2...@gmail.com harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: http://www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Active Information Systems Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice book vo FYI: Voicebook VO isn't intended to be a full Facebook client. It's strength is that it lets you get through the newsfeed very very quickly. I'm adding more features, but if you want something that is full featured right now, you'll have to consider other clients like the Facebook official app. Ben On Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:09:26 AM UTC-5, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Hi all: I'm using the voicebook vo, but it can not suits my needs, I can't find many many things, can't we find better program, or will it be updated? Thanks in advance Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.mo...@gmail.com javascript: Msn and aim messengers: flute...@link.net javascript: Studio email: harmonys...@gmail.com javascript: facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: mousta...@gmail.com javascript: youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ http://www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Same senario here in a developing country when I've showed the ILhone to family: they're amazed I know more than they! I think that by exanple is ghe way to go in creating awareness of Aple's commitnent on integrating us the blind into something as bassic as the Digital Age. It sure feels awesome being part along with everybody else, independent of disability. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/09/2012, a las 06:29, Chris christopher...@gmail.com escribió: Hello all speaking of the sighted I tell sighted iPhone or other iDevice users about VoiceOver and they are just amazed, some to the extent that they are delighted in what Apple has done even though they may never have met a disabled person in their lives. So I am spreading the word for sure. On 18/09/2012 06:30, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Joanne, Apple stresses accessibility as a concept which means not just accessibility for the blind or visually impaired, but also for those with hearing impairments, physical impairments and even those with mental and learning disabilities. Throw all of those numbers in a pot and they are not so small and they do generate good will from those who care about this. Include all the families and friends of those who benefit from accessible iPhones and iDevices and while not everybody may buy an iPhone because his or her blind aunt, nephew or Grandpa can benefit, some may be influenced by this and the numbers grow even further. In any case, I think Apple has made a commitment, made this commitment public and they will continue to stick with it. Hopefully their example may result in others following in their footsteps. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6] Hi David, If that is the case of what you said, we poor blind people, why Apple should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products? Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly to people with access needs. Just a thought Regards Joanne On 18/09/2012, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts. On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote: David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this
RE: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer
I've done this several times without any problems. Once you are in the folder with all the image files, do a control+a, to select all, control+c to copy, then go to the folder where you want to paste them and hit control+v. That has always worked for me. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer Greetings to the list. I would like to copy all of the pictures on my iPhone 3GS to a folder on my Windows 7 PC. When I connect the iPhone, it appears as a drive under Windows Explorer, and I can navigate to a folder with a cryptic name which seems to contain all of the images on the phone. I can read the filename of each picture, but if I copy the contents to the clipboard after selecting it, I cannot paste it into a Windows folder with the Control-V keyboard command. The Windows folder appears empty. Can someone suggest a remedy? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer
Yes indeed, Richard. This is, as they say, standard operating procedure--and that's exactly what I did; but the destination folder appears empty after the attemtped pasting. I think once I figure out what's going wrong, I'll be back with egg on my face. smile I won't hide the evidence. Craig On 9/18/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I've done this several times without any problems. Once you are in the folder with all the image files, do a control+a, to select all, control+c to copy, then go to the folder where you want to paste them and hit control+v. That has always worked for me. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer Greetings to the list. I would like to copy all of the pictures on my iPhone 3GS to a folder on my Windows 7 PC. When I connect the iPhone, it appears as a drive under Windows Explorer, and I can navigate to a folder with a cryptic name which seems to contain all of the images on the phone. I can read the filename of each picture, but if I copy the contents to the clipboard after selecting it, I cannot paste it into a Windows folder with the Control-V keyboard command. The Windows folder appears empty. Can someone suggest a remedy? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer
I hope it isn't too many eggs, grin. Have you tried other locations on your hard drive? I wonder if that location has an issue. Or, try a thumb drive. In any case, good luck. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer Yes indeed, Richard. This is, as they say, standard operating procedure--and that's exactly what I did; but the destination folder appears empty after the attemtped pasting. I think once I figure out what's going wrong, I'll be back with egg on my face. smile I won't hide the evidence. Craig On 9/18/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I've done this several times without any problems. Once you are in the folder with all the image files, do a control+a, to select all, control+c to copy, then go to the folder where you want to paste them and hit control+v. That has always worked for me. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer Greetings to the list. I would like to copy all of the pictures on my iPhone 3GS to a folder on my Windows 7 PC. When I connect the iPhone, it appears as a drive under Windows Explorer, and I can navigate to a folder with a cryptic name which seems to contain all of the images on the phone. I can read the filename of each picture, but if I copy the contents to the clipboard after selecting it, I cannot paste it into a Windows folder with the Control-V keyboard command. The Windows folder appears empty. Can someone suggest a remedy? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Hi, Scott, My response was regarding Joanne's sentiment that more should be done for blind people because we need it. Well, not all economies are Capitalist, but that's a side issue. In any case, my point was that I applaud Apple's commitment, but I don't see them spending a lot of money on accessibility simply because we need it. They need to have an incentive to keep the commitment and make money at the same time. Teresa On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:40 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Theresa, I'm not sure what you mean by the capitalist economy since all economies are capitalist in nature. In fact I'd argue that without capitalism Apple would not have any incentive to consider accessibility. I'm not sure where charities fit into this conversation either. The fact is APple chose to make accessibility a core component of their business model because APple decided at some point that everyone should have equal access. Regardless of how small a market segment the disable population is, Apple has made the commitment and will continue to do so. Just as app developers have responded in most cases very favorably to making their apps accessible. I suspect it is not just because it is the right thing to do, but because there is a segment of the market that could be tapped for sales. Capitalism really is a good thing because it gives people the incentive to strive for your money. :) On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The issue of blind folk and touch screens is quite fascinating. I've always had trouble with spatial orientation, and if it weren't for the constant audible feedback, I'd get losT on a Magic Trackpad for the Mac or the screen on my IPOD. That said, I am really beginning to appreciate the spatial plcement, and I'm getting much more comfortable with it. As for Apple's accessibility commitment, I think it's fantastic, but in a capitalist economy, it can only go so far, unless charities step in and help, or unless Apfle had various foundations for the purpose. I reY wouldn't have guessed this level of accessibility would exist a few years back, and frankly, this is why I buy Apple products. I support this commitment with my wallet. :) Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts. On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote: David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Re: Ordered unlocked iphone 5 from USA
Can't you buy an unlocked iPhone direct from Apple? On 19/09/12 08:43, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: One of my friends is on USA, I need to buy an unlocked iphone 5, from where can I buy, because, I can't find unlocked phones, only locked phones, Any help will be highly abbreciated Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Right, I agree with everything here. I'm just wondering though if Apple didn't realize that creating an accessible mobile platform wasn't going to give them an edge or open up new opportunities in government, small business and educational facilities. I mean if Android had made this paradigm shift before Apple, then Apple could be or might be missing out on some deals in the future. I also understand that the FCC requires cell phone carriers to carry an accessible option, but if a government facility is going to require all of their employees to carry a cell phone to receive text messages and look up information on the agency's internal web site then this wouldn't be covered by the FCC but by other US laws. On 17/09/12 23:15, David Chittenden wrote: Hello, First, don't confuse timelines. Original Android accessibility was only with physical buttons and keyboards, and this was after VO was released on the iPhone. Before VO was released on the iPhone, it was known that accessibility was not very possible on a touch-screen. In other words, the limited possibilities for touch-screen access were obviously impossible and expensive, so the ADA was satisfied because it was not practical to have blindness accessibility. The possible access was limited and easily arguably too expensive, so meaningless. Therefore, businesses and government were only required to provide a partially accessible alternative. This meant, the blind person would get a basic cell phone with buttons that could be felt, and if necessary, a laptop or netbook running a screen reader, or an accessible note taker such as BrailleNote or PACMate. Code Factory did not make enough of an impact to change the government register (yes, I checked in 2008), so slight accommodation was perfectly acceptible and met the law. Windows Phone Seven became inaccessible, yet Microsoft did not lose any government contracts over it. Therefore, we can easily argue that the lack of accessibility in the mobile phone market meant no companies would lose government contracts. The TeleCommunications Act said at least an entry level usably accessible phone needs to be provided by each carrier. This does not mean each phone manufacturer was required to make an accessible version, and the provided phone just needed to be useable, not all of its advanced features need to be accessible. I did clarify this information with an accessibility law specialist in 2008. As for the case of the Kindle, this happened in 2010 at Arizona State University. ASU required Kindles for certain classes and did not provide any accessible alternatives. Amazon could not argue that accessibility was impossible in a handheld device because, as was successfully argued, Apple's VoiceOver made the iPhone and the iPad fully accessible. Therefore, Amazon developed an accessible Kindle. It should be noted that the accessible Kindle has buttons and no touch screen, and the newest models, according to information I have recently received, are not accessible. Even Blackberry phones were inaccessible and Rim did not lose any government or business contracts because of it. Rim started having other problems, but that was not related, in any way, to their lack of accessibility. The fact is, Apple completely changed the paradigm around accessibility, and they are still significantly ahead of the competition. Will this continue? Only time can answer that question. However, Apple's pattern since 2005 speaks for itself, and gives me high confidence that it will continue in to the foreseeable future. The only other company which I have similar confidence about at this time is Google's Android, and my confidence is not as high. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 15:09, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know Apple wouldn't have lost any educational or governmental contracts if they hadn't made IOS accessible? I recall a situation where the DoJ blocked the use of Kindles (at least I think it was Kindles) to distribute text books as ebooks. Plus, more and more businesses are using and requiring their employees to use cell phones and tablets. I could definitely see a situation where Apple would be losing sales of iPhones and iPads to small businesses, governments agencies and educational institutions if Android were an accessible option and IOS hadn't been made accessible. Of course, Apple deserves the credit for being ahead of that curve and doing it in such an innovative way. I'm not sure Windows Phone 7 is much of a counter example at the moment. I doubt they've lost any contracts due to a lack of accessibility, but I figure it's more likely that they're just such a niche player right now that they're just not considered a viable option yet. On 17/09/12 21:41, David Chittenden wrote: Hello,
RE: AtBat
Richard, thanks for your reply. I am also using a 4S and also a 3rd gen. Touch. (I believe; the last one before they added the camera.) I have tried both wifi and 3G. Have emptied the app switcher and completely shut down both devices. Hopefully, it was just an MLB server issue. This was around 10:15 PM Monday night Eastern. Thanks again for your suggestions. Eric -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: AtBat No. Have you checked your app switcher? Are you using Wi-Fi or data? I can switch games and it takes maybe 3 to 5 seconds to get the new broadcast. This is over Wi-Fi with a 4S. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric SS Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: AtBat Anyone else having issues since updating? Tonight, it is taking 5 to 10 minutes, yes minutes, to switch screens or start a broadcast. I just did the update last night, but I think it was a very recent posting. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: apps and folders?
Yes. You can only have 12 apps in a folder. Jenn From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sabrina Giles Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: apps and folders? Hi list So, I've created a social folder in my IPhone that has 12 items. When I try and put another app in this folder the phone refuses it. Is there some sort of limit of how many apps a folder can hold? Thanks, Sabrina ' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Fwd: A new info about accessibility of appstore
I am pleased to hear that Apple has apparently fixed the inaccessibility issues that were reported in the Gold Master release of the soon-to-be released iOS 6. If you click on this link you will be able to read the latest blog entry from the AppleVis blog. According to this it will now be safe for all of us to install the update when it is posted tomorrow. Happy iOSing… Scott Begin forwarded message: From: blue wings bluewings1...@gmail.com Subject: A new info about accessibility of appstore Date: September 18, 2012 6:26:03 AM EDT To: viphone@googlegroups.com Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all http://www.applevis.com/applevis-blog/advocacy/apple-makes-last-minute-accessibility-fixes-app-store-ahead-ios-6-release -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
David wrote... The fact is, blindness, including legal blindness, is between .5% and .6% of the world population. David, can you tell me where you get this information? I have always wondered about the percent of the population that suffers from visual disabilities and other such things. Any direction appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want
I am new to this list. Could someone please send the name of the ap to get rid of unwanted phone calls? I got in at the end of this topic. Thank you. GDB Retro Rex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeffry miller Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want will it also work for other people you don't want to be gbothered with?that app sounds cool -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple
It can't come to my attention that iOS six is lacking in compatibility in certain areas. it is important that we mobilize and make our voice be heard. Call Apple at 1-800-692-7753 or one 800 my apple. Let them know that we expect them to release products in which all its features work with one another. we will not accept less than the highest quality products which is what Apple has built their name on. It is important that we all do this. There might be a small number of those who are blind. However even small voices can seem large if they are combined in a chorus. Thank you for reading and be sure to remember to call -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: AppleVis
It appears that the site is up. I just went to the homepage, and it's up and running. Ben On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:56 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: Is it just me or is the AppleVis web site down? Just curious. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Hello, Like Windows, Apple relied on a 3rd party program, OutSpoken, for blindness accessibility back in the 90's. When Berkeley Systems went out of business, another company bought OutSpoken from them, but only worked on the PC version of OutSpoken for a couple years. The new company let the Mac version die immediately. In the early 2000's (2002 or 2003 if memory serves), the Department of Education informed Apple that they would no longer be able to purchase Macs because of lack of accessibility for the blind. Education was one of Apple's largest sales streams. According to a friend who will remain nameless, Apple discussed developing a screen reader with him and others before they decided to take development inhouse in 2003. The original VoiceOver was released in OSX Tiger in 2005 (if memory serves), and was a decent screen reader. It was more functional than Microsoft's Narrator, but was not super impressive. And yet, from those humble beginnings, a core shift occurred in Apple's business model. Accessibility somehow became part of Apple's core structure. VoiceOver in OSX improved by leaps and bounds with every update of the OS. More interestingly, Apple developed a purely touch-based screen reader, from the ground up, for the iPhone 3GS. Apple stated at the time that the 3GS was the first mobile phone which had enough processing power to accommodate their screen reader. Considering that Apple does not apologise for what they do, and they do not use focus groups, and they are driven by improving the end-user's experience (not the computer-savvy geek experience), I strongly suspect the screen reader had been developed much earlier and Apple was waiting for the powerful processor to be ready. The initial 3GS VO was far too polished compared with the initial OSX Tiger VO. Microsoft and Google cannot claim that the phone processor chips did not have enough power for their screen readers. Android's screen reader is following the expected progression of a new screen reader that is being developed. It is finally acquiring something close to VO's polish of the 3GS generation. In another year, if Google continues as they are going now, I expect TalkBack to achieve VO's current polish. By that time, of course, I expect VO to be further along. Apple is the market leader here because they truly have accessibility as part of their core business. And, they continue appearing to be the only company which has made such a complete core shift. I happen to know that Microsoft's accessibility department is available for any other MS division which requests accessibility assistance. However, as of a couple years ago, no MS division was required to consult with the accessibility team. It is the decision of each MS division / department. According to a friend who did some technical consulting with Apple a few years ago, divisions in Apple were required to consult with the accessibility team. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 9:05, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer
Hello is there a way to copy all of my pictures from my I phone onto my computer so I can then sink it to my ipod? I hope to hear from someone soon thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Copying my iPhone Pictures to My Windows Computer Greetings to the list. I would like to copy all of the pictures on my iPhone 3GS to a folder on my Windows 7 PC. When I connect the iPhone, it appears as a drive under Windows Explorer, and I can navigate to a folder with a cryptic name which seems to contain all of the images on the phone. I can read the filename of each picture, but if I copy the contents to the clipboard after selecting it, I cannot paste it into a Windows folder with the Control-V keyboard command. The Windows folder appears empty. Can someone suggest a remedy? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
The recently released Kindle Fire hd is running Ice Cream Sandwich. Why didn't hey make it accessible? -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I
IPhone 3GS and iMessages
Hello. I have a friend that has an iPhone 3GS. I'm wondering if they can send iMessages? Every time I try to send a message to them, it turns out to be text. Unfortunately, I do not have a texting plan, and it is important that I get a hold of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Microsoft, Palm, and Apple were all trying to find the holy grail of touch-screen access. Apple's first attempt, the Newton, was a spectacular failure. Palm took an early lead, then Microsoft moved ahead and Palm folded. Then, Apple found their first major success with the iPod with click wheel. This success caused the reevaluation that lead directly to the iPhone. And the rest is history. Considering Apple's commitment to accessibility, I am glad they won. At the time, I was hoping MS would figure it out because I did not know Apple was making the true shift to accessibility. Glad I was wrong. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19/09/2012, at 2:37, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I agree with everything here. I'm just wondering though if Apple didn't realize that creating an accessible mobile platform wasn't going to give them an edge or open up new opportunities in government, small business and educational facilities. I mean if Android had made this paradigm shift before Apple, then Apple could be or might be missing out on some deals in the future. I also understand that the FCC requires cell phone carriers to carry an accessible option, but if a government facility is going to require all of their employees to carry a cell phone to receive text messages and look up information on the agency's internal web site then this wouldn't be covered by the FCC but by other US laws. On 17/09/12 23:15, David Chittenden wrote: Hello, First, don't confuse timelines. Original Android accessibility was only with physical buttons and keyboards, and this was after VO was released on the iPhone. Before VO was released on the iPhone, it was known that accessibility was not very possible on a touch-screen. In other words, the limited possibilities for touch-screen access were obviously impossible and expensive, so the ADA was satisfied because it was not practical to have blindness accessibility. The possible access was limited and easily arguably too expensive, so meaningless. Therefore, businesses and government were only required to provide a partially accessible alternative. This meant, the blind person would get a basic cell phone with buttons that could be felt, and if necessary, a laptop or netbook running a screen reader, or an accessible note taker such as BrailleNote or PACMate. Code Factory did not make enough of an impact to change the government register (yes, I checked in 2008), so slight accommodation was perfectly acceptible and met the law. Windows Phone Seven became inaccessible, yet Microsoft did not lose any government contracts over it. Therefore, we can easily argue that the lack of accessibility in the mobile phone market meant no companies would lose government contracts. The TeleCommunications Act said at least an entry level usably accessible phone needs to be provided by each carrier. This does not mean each phone manufacturer was required to make an accessible version, and the provided phone just needed to be useable, not all of its advanced features need to be accessible. I did clarify this information with an accessibility law specialist in 2008. As for the case of the Kindle, this happened in 2010 at Arizona State University. ASU required Kindles for certain classes and did not provide any accessible alternatives. Amazon could not argue that accessibility was impossible in a handheld device because, as was successfully argued, Apple's VoiceOver made the iPhone and the iPad fully accessible. Therefore, Amazon developed an accessible Kindle. It should be noted that the accessible Kindle has buttons and no touch screen, and the newest models, according to information I have recently received, are not accessible. Even Blackberry phones were inaccessible and Rim did not lose any government or business contracts because of it. Rim started having other problems, but that was not related, in any way, to their lack of accessibility. The fact is, Apple completely changed the paradigm around accessibility, and they are still significantly ahead of the competition. Will this continue? Only time can answer that question. However, Apple's pattern since 2005 speaks for itself, and gives me high confidence that it will continue in to the foreseeable future. The only other company which I have similar confidence about at this time is Google's Android, and my confidence is not as high. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 15:09, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know Apple wouldn't have lost any educational or governmental contracts if they hadn't made IOS accessible? I recall a situation where the DoJ blocked the use of Kindles (at least I think it was Kindles) to distribute text
Re: IPhone 3GS and iMessages
Hi I have a 3 gs and i do have i messages my self how ever i did need to reset my net work settin once chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN: hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day Twitter: hannahday2009 On 18/09/2012 16:31, Hope Paulos wrote: Hello. I have a friend that has an iPhone 3GS. I'm wondering if they can send iMessages? Every time I try to send a message to them, it turns out to be text. Unfortunately, I do not have a texting plan, and it is important that I get a hold of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question
Thanks I will keep this for my records if I decide to update. I will get the 5 soon and sell the old ones so I might as well skip it but maybe I'll be too curious. Smile. Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, You've been given some conflicting advice here but I'm going to side with Daniel. If history repeats itsself (Which we have no reason to believe won't happen), you should have upto a week to downgrade back to 5.1.1; after this time has passed downgrading will not be possible. Restoring from a backup won't work though; you'll need to download the 5.1.1 ipsw for your device which is easily and legally obtainable and force itunes to install it by pressing shift space on the update button then browsing to the ipsw. Once it's done, you should be able to restore from a backup to get your settings apps back. Cheers, Ben. On 9/18/12, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: No it would not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:45 PM To: Viphone Subject: revert to previous iOS procedure question Hi, I am considering upgrading my iphone 4 to iOS 6 but thinking of down-grading if it is too slow or maps don't work nicely. If I restore to backup from previous day would this return 5.1.1? Thanks for your help. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.comhttp://www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Ordered unlocked iphone 5 from USA
Hi Ramy, Right now nobody can buy any iPhone 5, this Friday stores will start to sell iPhones in the US, but it will only be iPhones for those who activate them on a US carrier (ATT, Sprint and Verizon). The unlocked iPhone will not be available in the US for several weeks, when exactly nobody knows. This was the same last year when the iPhone 4S came out in mid October, you could not buy an unlocked 4S until sometime in November. And before the list gets cluttered with half a dozen messages questioning this, I actually called an Apple store in New York to make sure I get this right and that is what I was told. I am in Canada and while I am not buying the iPhone 5, last year I was able to preorder and get my 4S on the release date and stores here do sell them unlocked from day 1 and I believe the same is the case in most other countries, I guess the carrier lobby in the States is too strong so they get a few weeks where they can reel in those who don't want to wait even if they are willing to buy the phone unlocked at full price. The Apple store employee I spoke with said they don't know when the iPhone 5 will be available unlocked, but he thinks it will be not for about 3 or 4 weeks, so most likely it will be mid to late October. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Why should we wait at all? Don't say that accessibility is brand new here. It kills me that people defend companies who just now are or may want to get accessibility. Google is just starting and amazom are not doing things right. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From:
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Ah, you're right. I couldn't find any articles on Google that said the Kindle Fire HD either was or was not accessible. I'd be curious to know if any blind person took the Kindle Fire HD for a spin and found out if Talk Back was built in and how accessible it was or wasn't. On 18/09/12 10:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: The recently released Kindle Fire hd is running Ice Cream Sandwich. Why didn't hey make it accessible? -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Sure, this info comes from the world blind union and is the most recent published numbers I could locate. They state 39 million out of 6.7 billion meet the US legal definition of blindness. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19/09/2012, at 2:57, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: David wrote... The fact is, blindness, including legal blindness, is between .5% and .6% of the world population. David, can you tell me where you get this information? I have always wondered about the percent of the population that suffers from visual disabilities and other such things. Any direction appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Apple is on it!
Awesome, I can definitely confirm this. Both updates and search are working great now. Haven't tried Genius as I never use that tab. Not only am I glad these issues are fixed but I'm also extremely pleased to see how quickly Apple listened and addressed the issues. Best, Rick From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple is on it! Yes! Much, much better now, even to the extent that the update button, when pressed changes its status to waiting and downloading as the update process proceeds. I was able to flick through the results of a search, and double tapping on that result gave me the app I was expecting. Today versus yesterday is like day versus night. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Van Gorp Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012 5:28 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple is on it! I don't have 6.0, so all I'm doing here is reporting what Applevis has tweeted. I guess we'll see what happens in 24 hours or so. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple is on it! Try all of them, from what I can see. The stores are supposed to auto-scrol themselves, rendering the scrolling gestures of VoiceOver inopperable. Keep in mind, though, that's the intended behavior. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Van Gorp Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple is on it! Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
I'm not defending anyone. I just think it's wrong to mischaracterize what other companies are doing. This by no means takes anything away from apple. How many times have we seen on this list that Android doesn't have a screen reader built in or that you have to pay for a 3rd party screen reader for Android? Someone also said they'd never buy a Kindle since a blind person couldn't turn on accessibility by themselves. Apple is doing a great job with accessibility, and nothing gets taken away from Apple when we avoid statements or implications that Apple is the only company who cares about or is doing anything about accessibility. On 18/09/12 10:45, Mike Maslo wrote: Why should we wait at all? Don't say that accessibility is brand new here. It kills me that people defend companies who just now are or may want to get accessibility. Google is just starting and amazom are not doing things right. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the
Re: IPhone 3GS and iMessages
Ok all to reliably send iMessages make sure the contact's number is in the iPhone field and not anywhere else. Did this to all my iOS contacts and have been able to reliably send iMessages ever since. On 18/09/2012 16:38, hannah day wrote: Hi I have a 3 gs and i do have i messages my self how ever i did need to reset my net work settin once chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN: hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day Twitter: hannahday2009 On 18/09/2012 16:31, Hope Paulos wrote: Hello. I have a friend that has an iPhone 3GS. I'm wondering if they can send iMessages? Every time I try to send a message to them, it turns out to be text. Unfortunately, I do not have a texting plan, and it is important that I get a hold of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: IPhone 3GS and iMessages
Hello Hope, They can send iMessages as long as they have updated their phone to iOS 5 and have enabled iMessages. I always find it amazing how many people who are simply users and not very interested in technology itself are still running older iPhones like the 3GS or 4 on the software that was on it when they received the phone. Just tell your friend to check which version he/she has under Settings, General, About and if they do have iOS 5, iOS 5.01 or iOS 5.11 they have to check in Settings and Messages whether iMessage is turned on, if it is not they have to do so and sign in with their Apple Id and password. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Would anyone know exactly what time I owe S6 .0 would be available for download tomorrow? I'm hoping it will start at midnight. Let's see what it drinks! PS above text was dictated to my iPhone, so excuse the typos! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
iPhone field in contacts, was IPhone 3GS and iMessages
Hello, I have heard people refer to this mysterious iPhone field before. Where is this supposed to be, I certainly don't seem to have it when I add or edit a contact. If I double tap let's say on the Mobile button next to the field where I put somebody's cell number I get a list with a Cancel button at the top left, then the heading Labels is at the top in the middle and after that I have the following 10 labels to choose from: Mobile (which would show as selected) Home Work Home Fax Work Fax Pager Assistant Car Company Mai Radio I really don't see the point of the iPhone field anyways because if somebody gives me their cell number I don't typically ask them whether they have an iPhone or not and I have never had issues with iMessages working, if I am sending a text and the recipient has iMessage enabled it will go as an iMessage, this is how it's supposed to work and I doubt Apple requires anybody to specifically indicate whether the number is an iPhone number or not. By the way, this is an iPhone 4S and iOS 5.1.1 for me. I seem to remember seeing the iPhone number field before, but it was a long time ago so could this maybe something on an iPhone 4? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone 3GS and iMessages Ok all to reliably send iMessages make sure the contact's number is in the iPhone field and not anywhere else. Did this to all my iOS contacts and have been able to reliably send iMessages ever since. On 18/09/2012 16:38, hannah day wrote: Hi I have a 3 gs and i do have i messages my self how ever i did need to reset my net work settin once chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN: hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day Twitter: hannahday2009 On 18/09/2012 16:31, Hope Paulos wrote: Hello. I have a friend that has an iPhone 3GS. I'm wondering if they can send iMessages? Every time I try to send a message to them, it turns out to be text. Unfortunately, I do not have a texting plan, and it is important that I get a hold of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
There's a difference between not doing as much as others or not doing as much as we'd like or even should be done and not doing anything at all, so yes, I agree a statement like saying a company has over and over again done nothing at all is a mischaracterization. I'm assuming we're talking about Amazon here, which has done somethings to address accessibility on their web site and in their products. I also don't feel that 3rd party screen readers are a joke. I wouldn't have been employed for the last 20 plus years (long before Apple had their own screen reader) if it hadn't been for 3rd party screen readers. I know I'm in the minority on this list, but I think there's a certain amount of danger when the OS, screen reader and applications all come from the same company. It also isn't clear to me that you save much money buying an Apple product where the screen reader is built in versus another product where you can acquire a 3rd party screen reader. Both of these issues have been debated before, and I've made my opinions felt in those debates. Like I said, I'm sure I'm in the minority on those points, and I don't think there's any reason to redebate them now. On 18/09/12 11:04, Mike Maslo wrote: Mischaracterize a company who has over and over done nothing to make there products inaccessible. Public out cry and nothing changes. Yes you are so right mischaracterization So sorry thinking that blind people are brand new to the world. The fact that anyone has to pay to make a phone or any piece of equipment's accessible is a joke. We first pay for a piece of equipment the same price as it our counter parts who are sighted. Then as a thanks we have to spend more money to use it. Yes again I agree mischaracterization. My opinion only. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not defending anyone. I just think it's wrong to mischaracterize what other companies are doing. This by no means takes anything away from apple. How many times have we seen on this list that Android doesn't have a screen reader built in or that you have to pay for a 3rd party screen reader for Android? Someone also said they'd never buy a Kindle since a blind person couldn't turn on accessibility by themselves. Apple is doing a great job with accessibility, and nothing gets taken away from Apple when we avoid statements or implications that Apple is the only company who cares about or is doing anything about accessibility. On 18/09/12 10:45, Mike Maslo wrote: Why should we wait at all? Don't say that accessibility is brand new here. It kills me that people defend companies who just now are or may want to get accessibility. Google is just starting and amazom are not doing things right. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side.
RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
iOS 6 is pretty much the update. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of beverly Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Is it possible that we can skip the IOS 6 and when the update comes out just install that one? - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:38 AM Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well.
Re: Apple is on it!
thats because the new version isn't coming out until october On 9/17/2012 11:14 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: I just downloaded the 10.7 version of iTunes for mac os xÎ, and it looks no different than previous versions. On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Scott Van Gorp wrote: Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
We all have opinions. Who is right and who is wrong? No such thing! If you feel the way you do and in a major minority it is a opinion and I respect it. I find it reprehensible that companies are trying to do patch work accessibility. I would agree if the technology was not out there but it is. Not only that but come out with half of there products usable while the others are nut. To me again why pretend? Anyway I have made my opinion known like many others. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: There's a difference between not doing as much as others or not doing as much as we'd like or even should be done and not doing anything at all, so yes, I agree a statement like saying a company has over and over again done nothing at all is a mischaracterization. I'm assuming we're talking about Amazon here, which has done somethings to address accessibility on their web site and in their products. I also don't feel that 3rd party screen readers are a joke. I wouldn't have been employed for the last 20 plus years (long before Apple had their own screen reader) if it hadn't been for 3rd party screen readers. I know I'm in the minority on this list, but I think there's a certain amount of danger when the OS, screen reader and applications all come from the same company. It also isn't clear to me that you save much money buying an Apple product where the screen reader is built in versus another product where you can acquire a 3rd party screen reader. Both of these issues have been debated before, and I've made my opinions felt in those debates. Like I said, I'm sure I'm in the minority on those points, and I don't think there's any reason to redebate them now. On 18/09/12 11:04, Mike Maslo wrote: Mischaracterize a company who has over and over done nothing to make there products inaccessible. Public out cry and nothing changes. Yes you are so right mischaracterization So sorry thinking that blind people are brand new to the world. The fact that anyone has to pay to make a phone or any piece of equipment's accessible is a joke. We first pay for a piece of equipment the same price as it our counter parts who are sighted. Then as a thanks we have to spend more money to use it. Yes again I agree mischaracterization. My opinion only. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not defending anyone. I just think it's wrong to mischaracterize what other companies are doing. This by no means takes anything away from apple. How many times have we seen on this list that Android doesn't have a screen reader built in or that you have to pay for a 3rd party screen reader for Android? Someone also said they'd never buy a Kindle since a blind person couldn't turn on accessibility by themselves. Apple is doing a great job with accessibility, and nothing gets taken away from Apple when we avoid statements or implications that Apple is the only company who cares about or is doing anything about accessibility. On 18/09/12 10:45, Mike Maslo wrote: Why should we wait at all? Don't say that accessibility is brand new here. It kills me that people defend companies who just now are or may want to get accessibility. Google is just starting and amazom are not doing things right. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from
Any improvement in iOS 6 and VoiceOver cutting out?
Hello list, Along the same line of iOS 6 and whatever improvements or functionality that has been added, can anyone say who is running the gm beta if anything has been done to address the bug of VoiceOver randomly cutting out or if it's still an issue that we're still going to have to deal with? I'd also be curious to know once the new iDevices come out if this problem will be present or if with the better horrsepower and whatnot would have fixed it. I guess it wouldn't help us with the 4S and down, but still. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple is on it!
Except he's talking about iTunes on mobile devices running IOS 6, which comes out tomorrow. Not the new version of iTunes for Windows/Mac being released in October. -Marc On 9/18/12, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: thats because the new version isn't coming out until october On 9/17/2012 11:14 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: I just downloaded the 10.7 version of iTunes for mac os xÎ, and it looks no different than previous versions. On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Scott Van Gorp wrote: Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Ordered unlocked iphone 5 from USA
I don't think u can at this point. they may be coming out later On 9/19/2012 6:43 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: One of my friends is on USA, I need to buy an unlocked iphone 5, from where can I buy, because, I can't find unlocked phones, only locked phones, Any help will be highly abbreciated Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
Hello List, Thought I briefly outline what I do which is also what I heard Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommend before upgrading to a new version of iOS. I have never had issues so I guess it definitely won't hurt to do those few simple things: 1. Turn off Bluetooth if it is running 2. Rob from Today in iOS also recommends to go to Settings General and Reset and reset the network settings. I have never done this because I am too lazy to re-enter my WiFi passwords so it's up to you if you want to do this or not. 3. Clear out the app switcher completely which means from the Home screen double press the Home Key and then double tap and hold on one of the apps in the app switcher, after the tri-tone double or split-tap each app until Voiceover says app switcher is empty, press the Home Key or tap Dismiss app switcher. 4. Press and hold the power button until you hear Slide to power off and double tap to turn off the phone. 5. Press the power button to turn the phone back on, after it's booted up go to Settings, General and Software Updates. Do the update and enjoy. I have not done an update via iTunes ever since updating from the phone became available and it has always worked perfectly. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple is on it!
Thanks. I sure didn't see any changes. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: thats because the new version isn't coming out until october On 9/17/2012 11:14 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: I just downloaded the 10.7 version of iTunes for mac os xÎ, and it looks no different than previous versions. On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Scott Van Gorp wrote: Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
I'm a little confused. Doesn't the update reset the phone anyway? I don't suppose it hurts to take everything out of the app switcher, however. Sage advice from the Department of redundancy Department, in any case. :) Teresa On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello List, Thought I briefly outline what I do which is also what I heard Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommend before upgrading to a new version of iOS. I have never had issues so I guess it definitely won’t hurt to do those few simple things: 1. Turn off Bluetooth if it is running 2. Rob from Today in iOS also recommends to go to Settings” “General” and “Reset” and reset the network settings. I have never done this because I am too lazy to re-enter my WiFi passwords so it’s up to you if you want to do this or not. 3. Clear out the app switcher completely which means from the Home screen double press the Home Key and then double tap and hold on one of the apps in the app switcher, after the tri-tone double or split-tap each app until Voiceover says “app switcher is empty”, press the Home Key or tap “Dismiss app switcher”. 4. Press and hold the power button until you hear “Slide to power off” and double tap to turn off the phone. 5. Press the power button to turn the phone back on, after it’s booted up go to “Settings”, “General” and “Software Updates”. Do the update and enjoy. I have not done an update via iTunes ever since updating from the phone became available and it has always worked perfectly. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
To that to do list may I add that you backup your phone to iCloud before upgrading ! Don't you agree? Best wishes and many blessings! Avnish -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
Hi Teresa, I believe that if you left Bluetooth on that it would still be on after the update process although I can't confirm that for sure since I always turn it off. As for resetting the network settings, I don't think this is done during the update process, either, after all you need a stabil WiFi connection during the update. Anyhow, I can only repeat what others who know more about this than me advise, but I think the most important thing is to clear your app switcher and reboot the phone, it's always worked well for me this way. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 I'm a little confused. Doesn't the update reset the phone anyway? I don't suppose it hurts to take everything out of the app switcher, however. Sage advice from the Department of redundancy Department, in any case. :) Teresa On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello List, Thought I briefly outline what I do which is also what I heard Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommend before upgrading to a new version of iOS. I have never had issues so I guess it definitely won't hurt to do those few simple things: 1. Turn off Bluetooth if it is running 2. Rob from Today in iOS also recommends to go to Settings General and Reset and reset the network settings. I have never done this because I am too lazy to re-enter my WiFi passwords so it's up to you if you want to do this or not. 3. Clear out the app switcher completely which means from the Home screen double press the Home Key and then double tap and hold on one of the apps in the app switcher, after the tri-tone double or split-tap each app until Voiceover says app switcher is empty, press the Home Key or tap Dismiss app switcher. 4. Press and hold the power button until you hear Slide to power off and double tap to turn off the phone. 5. Press the power button to turn the phone back on, after it's booted up go to Settings, General and Software Updates. Do the update and enjoy. I have not done an update via iTunes ever since updating from the phone became available and it has always worked perfectly. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
Hi Avnish, Yes, that is a very good point and thanks for mentioning it. Sometimes one forgets the most obvious since of course doing a backup is a must. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AppleGourmet Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 To that to do list may I add that you backup your phone to iCloud before upgrading ! Don't you agree? Best wishes and many blessings! Avnish -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Muxic is an App Worth Checking Out
Hey guys! Quick favor to ask. If you're enjoying the app, and you like the update, would you mind dropping by the iTunes store and leaving a review? The link to the app, again, is http://bit.ly/MuxicApp. Unfortunately, the only review I have for this version so far is someone calling me a con-artist, which, I hope I've convinced most of you that I'm not. In any case, a couple of good reviews from a few of you could do wonders in helping the App's reputation. -David On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:57:30 PM UTC-5, David Morton wrote: Brett, No, I'm not planning on adding any equalizers to the app. Unfortunately, EQ handling is a far more complex task than simply normalizing the volume. While it may be on the long, long term road map, I wouldn't count on it. Glad you like the app! I have another update already out to Apple to fix some of the 4S crashing issues, and you can also expect some more goodies thrown in for good measure. As a side note, when 4.0 comes out soon, you might notice that the Stations tab is missing. I've moved it into the Library to make room for another really exciting change. -David On Thursday, September 6, 2012 2:09:11 AM UTC-5, Brettsta wrote: Hi David,. This is a great app and the crossfade is awesome.. I am just wondering if equalisers might be on your long-term road map?. Thanks Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 06/09/2012, at 5:52 AM, David Morton da...@isamorton.com wrote: 3.0.1 is out in the U.S. App Store, and internationally should be following very quickly, if it's not already out. This update should (crossing fingers) solve the frequent crashes many of you are experiencing. On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:54:27 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I've seen the sluggishness, but it's not exclusive to Muxic. For example I find on my 4S that Downcast and Musicdock make VoiceOver slower to respond as well. Perhaps Muxic is a bit worse than those two apps, but I suspect that's because of it's intensive nature. Jonathan -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2012 1:11 a.m. To: vip...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Muxic is an App Worth Checking Out Hello David, thanks for your responses regarding this app. I for one feel it's a 5-star app and am happy that you have taken the time to join this busy list to give feedback and answer questions. I'll turn off the normalization and see what happens. I don't mind the slower response times as much as I mind the crashing. If I can get the app to crash with actual reproducible steps, I'll be sure to let you know. All the best. -- Raul A. Gallegos Before marriage, a man yearns for the woman he loves. After marriage, the 'Y' becomes silent. - Anonymous Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/5/2012 8:35 AM, David Morton wrote: I'm not entirely sure what's causing the sluggishness. I never noticed it myself, but then again, I'm not a VoiceOver user. What I can tell you guys, is that there's a TON of things going on audio-wise behind the scenes in the app. Not only is it validating timing for crossfade, but it's also handling audio normalization, etc, etc. I'm wondering if VoiceOver is affected by the heavy use of the audio system. Here's a test... could someone run this for me? Turn off Normalization entirely, and let me know if you still have the same issue. Unfortunately, this is one of those that I'm not sure I'll be able to fix. That being said, the frequent crashes should be fixed in the next few days when Apple pushes the latest version to the App Store. I've fixed the two Title sections at the top of the Queue page for the release after that, and I've also added a few more goodies. Do be aware that in version 4.0, I'm moving the Stations tab to the library (where it probably should have been all along), and I'm creating a Similar tab that will provide you with personalized music suggestions based on the music that is already in your library. Again, let me know if there's anything I can do for any of you, and thanks for downloading and being patient as I work through some of the kinks. I'm doing my best to make sure all of you are happy with your purchase. -David On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:27:52 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey wrote: Yes, iFarkle is much more sluggish when I listen to music with the Muxic app. This does not happen when using the native Music app. -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:39 AM To:
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Can somebody help with the pinch gesture for selecting text? I have tried and tried and tried and tried, but with no success! Any health food be most welcome! Thank you very much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple
So what should we say to Apple? What issues are you talking about? I find it pretty weird that you are recommending us all to call Apple accessibility to talk about bugs in IOS6, without mentioning any bugs or lead us to a thread where those are discussed. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 18/09/2012 kl. 07.20 skrev Jim Lockwood j...@jimlockwoodshow.com: It can't come to my attention that iOS six is lacking in compatibility in certain areas. it is important that we mobilize and make our voice be heard. Call Apple at 1-800-692-7753 or one 800 my apple. Let them know that we expect them to release products in which all its features work with one another. we will not accept less than the highest quality products which is what Apple has built their name on. It is important that we all do this. There might be a small number of those who are blind. However even small voices can seem large if they are combined in a chorus. Thank you for reading and be sure to remember to call -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Muxic is an App Worth Checking Out
/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt http://www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com http://www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org http://www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple
that was also what I thought, but found it waist of time to write this. :) we'll all find out tomorrow. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 18/09/2012 kl. 19.38 skrev Wil James w...@wilanddenise.com: Not to mention the new release is not out to the public until tomorrow. Kind of pointless, don’t you think? --- iMessage/E-mail: w...@wilanddenise.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/wiljames Personal web page: http://www.wilanddenise.com/wil -- You couldn't be me even if you wanted to after all I've been through, you wouldn't know! - Hellyeah From: Søren Jensen [mailto:s...@coolfortheblind.dk] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple So what should we say to Apple? What issues are you talking about? I find it pretty weird that you are recommending us all to call Apple accessibility to talk about bugs in IOS6, without mentioning any bugs or lead us to a thread where those are discussed. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 18/09/2012 kl. 07.20 skrev Jim Lockwood j...@jimlockwoodshow.com: It can't come to my attention that iOS six is lacking in compatibility in certain areas. it is important that we mobilize and make our voice be heard. Call Apple at 1-800-692-7753 or one 800 my apple. Let them know that we expect them to release products in which all its features work with one another. we will not accept less than the highest quality products which is what Apple has built their name on. It is important that we all do this. There might be a small number of those who are blind. However even small voices can seem large if they are combined in a chorus. Thank you for reading and be sure to remember to call -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple
I agree, although I laud the original sentiment. I assume they're referring to the App Store problem that was reported on Applevis and various mailing lists. I appreciate all of the info on that problem, and I'm glad to see it's resolved, but I would like to have seen more from AppleVis and the beta testers on what actions were being taken to let Apple know about this issue. I assume it was going on, but since I didn't see it in the AppleVis post, for example, and I'm not a beta tester myself, I was a little bit at a loss as to what to do to help myself. On 18/09/12 12:40, Søren Jensen wrote: that was also what I thought, but found it waist of time to write this. :) we'll all find out tomorrow. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk mailto:s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 18/09/2012 kl. 19.38 skrev Wil James w...@wilanddenise.com mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com: Not to mention the new release is not out to the public until tomorrow. Kind of pointless, don’t you think? --- iMessage/E-mail: w...@wilanddenise.com mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/wiljames Personal web page: http://www.wilanddenise.com/wil -- You couldn't be me even if you wanted to after all I've been through, you wouldn't know! - Hellyeah *From:* Søren Jensen [mailto:s...@coolfortheblind.dk http://coolfortheblind.dk] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple So what should we say to Apple? What issues are you talking about? I find it pretty weird that you are recommending us all to call Apple accessibility to talk about bugs in IOS6, without mentioning any bugs or lead us to a thread where those are discussed. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk mailto:s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 18/09/2012 kl. 07.20 skrev Jim Lockwood j...@jimlockwoodshow.com mailto:j...@jimlockwoodshow.com: It can't come to my attention that iOS six is lacking in compatibility in certain areas. it is important that we mobilize and make our voice be heard. Call Apple at 1-800-692-7753 or one 800 my apple. Let them know that we expect them to release products in which all its features work with one another. we will not accept less than the highest quality products which is what Apple has built their name on. It is important that we all do this. There might be a small number of those who are blind. However even small voices can seem large if they are combined in a chorus. Thank you for reading and be sure to remember to call -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7491 (20120918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google
Labeling photos tips
Hi all, I am posting to macvisionaries and viphone since this question might concern both. Did a search on viphone archives and read about photovoice to add audio labels to your pictures on iphone. IS there an other way to do this so you change the actual name of the photo in your camera role? I tried renaming a picture in iphoto on mac but it still showed up on phone with useless img X name. Assuming I would use photovoice to audio-label, how can I ultimately change actual photo names? I use mac with ML and iphone. Thanks Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: revert to previous iOS procedure question
Hello, Since iPhone 4 users iPhone 3GS users won't be getting Apple Maps, will they continue to have the other option, which was Google Maps or will Google Maps disappear once they UPGRADE to iOS 6? At 03:50 PM 9/17/2012, you wrote: Hi, In regards to maps, you won't get the new maps features on the 4 in regards to turn by turn. Only 4s and 5 users will get that feature. Rich Cavallaro From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:45 PM To: Viphone Subject: revert to previous iOS procedure question Hi, I am considering upgrading my iphone 4 to iOS 6 but thinking of down-grading if it is too slow or maps don't work nicely. If I restore to backup from previous day would this return 5.1.1? Thanks for your help. Ioana Please check out my cd on http://www.ioanagandrabur.comwww.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
If a thumb and forefinger doesn't work, try the index fingers, moving one down and the other right, or whichever combinations you would like to try. I find this is a little more reliable. Hth, Teresa On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:26 AM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: Can somebody help with the pinch gesture for selecting text? I have tried and tried and tried and tried, but with no success! Any health food be most welcome! Thank you very much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Great VOIP for Canadians DellVoice
Hi all, I wanted to tell you about this great app that just got even better today. It gives you free voip calling in major canadian cities with cheep us and Canada rates for all other areas. YOu also get a local phone number that people can call you at. NOw with messaging for free with other users and for 1.99 per month in us and Canada. I had to label the buttons in keypad but then it worked fine. Love it because I changed to the lowest possible plan for voice usage for my fido iPhone. Here's the link to the app Get the app Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
I would only back up to iCloud and take all apps out of the app switcher and perhaps reboot the phone before doing the update. On 18/09/2012 17:50, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello List, Thought I briefly outline what I do which is also what I heard Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommend before upgrading to a new version of iOS. I have never had issues so I guess it definitely won’t hurt to do those few simple things: 1.Turn off Bluetooth if it is running 2.Rob from Today in iOS also recommends to go to Settings” “General” and “Reset” and reset the network settings. I have never done this because I am too lazy to re-enter my WiFi passwords so it’s up to you if you want to do this or not. 3.Clear out the app switcher completely which means from the Home screen double press the Home Key and then double tap and hold on one of the apps in the app switcher, after the tri-tone double or split-tap each app until Voiceover says “app switcher is empty”, press the Home Key or tap “Dismiss app switcher”. 4.Press and hold the power button until you hear “Slide to power off” and double tap to turn off the phone. 5.Press the power button to turn the phone back on, after it’s booted up go to “Settings”, “General” and “Software Updates”. Do the update and enjoy. I have not done an update via iTunes ever since updating from the phone became available and it has always worked perfectly. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
On 9/18/2012 2:54 PM, crayton wrote: On 9/18/2012 2:51 PM, Chris wrote: I would only back up to iCloud and take all apps out of the app switcher and perhaps reboot the phone before doing the update. On 18/09/2012 17:50, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello List, Thought I briefly outline what I do which is also what I heard Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommend before upgrading to a new version of iOS. I have never had issues so I guess it definitely won’t hurt to do those few simple things: 1.Turn off Bluetooth if it is running 2.Rob from Today in iOS also recommends to go to Settings” “General” and “Reset” and reset the network settings. I have never done this because I am too lazy to re-enter my WiFi passwords so it’s up to you if you want to do this or not. 3.Clear out the app switcher completely which means from the Home screen double press the Home Key and then double tap and hold on one of the apps in the app switcher, after the tri-tone double or split-tap each app until Voiceover says “app switcher is empty”, press the Home Key or tap “Dismiss app switcher”. 4.Press and hold the power button until you hear “Slide to power off” and double tap to turn off the phone. 5.Press the power button to turn the phone back on, after it’s booted up go to “Settings”, “General” and “Software Updates”. Do the update and enjoy. I have not done an update via iTunes ever since updating from the phone became available and it has always worked perfectly. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. do we have to connect our I devices to Itunes on our PC or mac in order to upgrade to IOS 6 like we had to do when we upgraded to IOS 5? Ok, thanks. I have heard from a lot of people that you don't have to connect your phone to your computer. I was just wandering if that was true or not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS six accessibility problems contact Apple
Sigh, it seems like the problem is already fixed. We can all put our picket signs away. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Jim Lockwood j...@jimlockwoodshow.com wrote: It can't come to my attention that iOS six is lacking in compatibility in certain areas. it is important that we mobilize and make our voice be heard. Call Apple at 1-800-692-7753 or one 800 my apple. Let them know that we expect them to release products in which all its features work with one another. we will not accept less than the highest quality products which is what Apple has built their name on. It is important that we all do this. There might be a small number of those who are blind. However even small voices can seem large if they are combined in a chorus. Thank you for reading and be sure to remember to call -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
I think you me product. Singular. The kindle keyboard. And the accessibility is, shoddy at best in my opinion. Unless you are also talking about the kindle desktop reader for Windows. They couldn't, or wouldn't make an accessible reader for the Mac. :( Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter:
Re: Great VOIP for Canadians DellVoice
I am not sure. I have sighted husband but seem to remember that I did it on my own. Sorry not to be able to confirm this. Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Brian Moore bmo...@screenreview.org wrote: when I tried this, it had a capcha to sign up? did they remove that? Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 18/09/2012 2:05 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi all, I wanted to tell you about this great app that just got even better today. It gives you free voip calling in major canadian cities with cheep us and Canada rates for all other areas. YOu also get a local phone number that people can call you at. NOw with messaging for free with other users and for 1.99 per month in us and Canada. I had to label the buttons in keypad but then it worked fine. Love it because I changed to the lowest possible plan for voice usage for my fido iPhone. Here's the link to the app Get the app Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone and Gmail
I am glad to help if you need any more help let me no. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Jeffrey Turner jturner...@gmail.com wrote: I am compelled to report that I got help from Conrad this morning and he was very knowledgable.I recommend him to anyone looking for help with email issues. Jeffrey On Sepe 18, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Conrad Bennett bennettc1...@gmail.com wrote: If you using your iPhone to check your Gmail you can set it up as a Microsoft exchange account in that way you can have more control over it let me know if you need more help I'll be glad to help thanks Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Mike Cassidy mike.cassidy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi listers, I'm using Pop3, not Imap. I'm referring to a mass delete from the server; I have no problems with deleting individual messages. Thanks for help, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: 17 September 2012 19:38 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone and Gmail This may be true if you want to do a mass delete of messages from your server, but you can definitely delete individual messages from GMail on your iPhone. I assume we're talking IMAP here. As someone else said, you can move your messages into the delete folder. Alternatively, you can turn archiving off and then you'll have a delete button replace the archive button. On 17/09/12 13:05, Jesus Garcia wrote: Afternoon if what you want to do is remove all messages from the google server the only solution I found was to install thunderbird on your PC or on your Mac if you have one and delete the messages with the email client. I found no other way to do a server delete. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Great VOIP for Canadians DellVoice
Ioana, in your experience, does SMS work reliably? A lot of times Canadian VOIP apps don't have very smooth SMS messaging. The most serious quirk I find is that a lot of times messages which are longer than 160 characters (i.e. messages that are sent in multiple texts) don't get sent and received reliably. I haven't tried Dell Voice's SMS feature yet though and would be curious to hear about your experience with it. Grant On 9/18/12, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I wanted to tell you about this great app that just got even better today. It gives you free voip calling in major canadian cities with cheep us and Canada rates for all other areas. YOu also get a local phone number that people can call you at. NOw with messaging for free with other users and for 1.99 per month in us and Canada. I had to label the buttons in keypad but then it worked fine. Love it because I changed to the lowest possible plan for voice usage for my fido iPhone. Here's the link to the app Get the app Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: AtBat
Thanks, Sean. I guess that time could be the culprit because it is when the west coast games begin, although I have not had the issue thus far this season. I think the update was dated last Thursday or Friday. The best! Eric -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Paul Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: AtBat Eric: I am not sure about an at bat update yesterday. I have the same issue around 10:30-11:00 eastern time each night. I've tried it both using 3G data as well as YFi for some reason this is the case each night. I'm assuming that at bat must get a great deal of use during these times which slows their servers down... Just taking a wag here. But, it sounded good anyway... - Original Message - From: Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:51 Subject: RE: AtBat Richard, thanks for your reply. I am also using a 4S and also a 3rd gen. Touch. (I believe; the last one before they added the camera.) I have tried both wifi and 3G. Have emptied the app switcher and completely shut down both devices. Hopefully, it was just an MLB server issue. This was around 10:15 PM Monday night Eastern. Thanks again for your suggestions. Eric -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: AtBat No. Have you checked your app switcher? Are you using Wi-Fi or data? I can switch games and it takes maybe 3 to 5 seconds to get the new broadcast. This is over Wi-Fi with a 4S. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric SS Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: AtBat Anyone else having issues since updating? Tonight, it is taking 5 to 10 minutes, yes minutes, to switch screens or start a broadcast. I just did the update last night, but I think it was a very recent posting. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Introduction
Hey Ezzie, One other helpful hint I would pass along is to check out the Voice Over Practice Gestures in the settings menu. It takes you to a screen that will tell you what action corresponds to a givengesture; if you flick your finger to the left, for instance, it will say Flick left. Moves to the previous item. You can try tapping and rotating and pinching etc., and it will let you know what that action does and help you to understand how the phone is interpreting your gestures -- it will give you a good sense of the screen's responsiveness. To get there you need to go to settings on your home screen; reach it by either moving your finger around the screen until you find settings or flicking your finger to the right or left until you find it. Then, do a quick one finger double tap to open settings; from there go to general by flicking or moving your finger; double tap on general and then find accessibility and double tap again. from accessibility find voice Over and double tap again on that. Here you'll find the other options you can set for your personal preference, such as voice rate etc, and also the practice gesture option. When you've finished practicing gestures, the done button is in the upper right hand corner. In addition to the podcasts from Vision Australia, which are short and really helpful, and the AppleVis website, it's also helpful to remember that you can search the archive of this list, if you have a question on a given topic. Sometimes it's a little overwhelming to search the list, since it is so active, but it's worth a try since probably someone has wondered about the same thing before. All the best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Ez Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Introduction Thanks a lot, Lisa! Please send any other hints on getting started (if you can), seeing as this will be my first iPhone. Thanks, Ezzie - Original Message - From: Lisa Larges llar...@tamfs.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:04:14 -0500 Subject: RE: Introduction Hi ezzie, When you get your phone, what you are going to do to get voice over started is to hit the home button 3 times quickly. The home button is a round button inset on the screen itself; it's the only button on the actual screen. Clicking the button 3 times quickly will start voice over talking. This is called the triple click home and is different from tapping on the screen itself. Hope that's clarifying! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Ez Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Introduction Thank you for the warm welcome! I expect to get my new phone in October. So do you just tripple tap anywhere on the screen and VO will begin to speak? How many fingers are required to tap? Thanks in advance! Ezzie - Original Message - From: Gerardo Corripio gera1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:10:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Introduction Greetings! and welcome to the Ihponeland! I've had mine for almost 2 months, thus would like to give you some tips and resources I found useful. First of all go to http://www.visionaustralia.org/atpodcasts/ where you'll find especially the Iphone/Ipod tutorials which are great! They gave me clarification on little details and also got me to explore and not be afraid to learn things on my own. Afterwards I'd recommend the Apple Vis site which also has great info! It's address is http://applevis.com Now as for activating VoiceOver, usually if the phone is right out of the box and not set up yet, do a triple click home button; if not, as I did, ask the store implyees to activate VoiceOver for you by going to Settings; General; Accessibility and click on VoiceOver and the phone should start talking! Siri is used more as an extra feature but diesn'doesn't replace VoiceOver. Hope this helps and again welcome to the list! You'll learn a lot! Gerardo El 15/09/2012 06:44 p.m., Ezzie Ez escribió: hereello everyone, My name is Ezzie Bueno and I am a college student majoring in music education. I've been using a Macbook Pro for almost two years now. Now that my upgrade is here, I've decided to take the plunge and get myself in gear with the all-new iPhone 5! I'm totally blind and have never used a Touwh Screen in my life. How did you get started using the iPhone? What tips do you have for me as far as getting VO turned on, using SIRI, and getting started in general? Also, which apps do you all recommend once I get comfortable with the iPhone itself? Thank you, Ezzie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
Hello, I don't mean to rain on a parade, but these steps are total voodoo. They will do nothing to improve your success rate of an iOS update. Granted, they won't do any harm, but they are about as useful as throwing salt over your sholder. The simple explanation is the phone is so tightly locked down while the iOS update is being run, these things make no difference. --csb Hello List, Thought I briefly outline what I do which is also what I heard Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommend before upgrading to a new version of iOS. I have never had issues so I guess it definitely won't hurt to do those few simple things: 1. Turn off Bluetooth if it is running 2. Rob from Today in iOS also recommends to go to Settings General and Reset and reset the network settings. I have never done this because I am too lazy to re-enter my WiFi passwords so it's up to you if you want to do this or not. 3. Clear out the app switcher completely which means from the Home screen double press the Home Key and then double tap and hold on one of the apps in the app switcher, after the tri-tone double or split-tap each app until Voiceover says app switcher is empty, press the Home Key or tap Dismiss app switcher. 4. Press and hold the power button until you hear Slide to power off and double tap to turn off the phone. 5. Press the power button to turn the phone back on, after it's booted up go to Settings, General and Software Updates. Do the update and enjoy. I have not done an update via iTunes ever since updating from the phone became available and it has always worked perfectly. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: AtBat
I probably should have said. That I've just noticed becoming a big deal in the last couple weeks. Let me know how it goes for you tonight if you happen to be listening at that time. - Original Message - From: Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 16:24 Subject: RE: AtBat Thanks, Sean. I guess that time could be the culprit because it is when the west coast games begin, although I have not had the issue thus far this season. I think the update was dated last Thursday or Friday. The best! Eric -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Paul Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: AtBat Eric: I am not sure about an at bat update yesterday. I have the same issue around 10:30-11:00 eastern time each night. I've tried it both using 3G data as well as YFi for some reason this is the case each night. I'm assuming that at bat must get a great deal of use during these times which slows their servers down... Just taking a wag here. But, it sounded good anyway... - Original Message - From: Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:51 Subject: RE: AtBat Richard, thanks for your reply. I am also using a 4S and also a 3rd gen. Touch. (I believe; the last one before they added the camera.) I have tried both wifi and 3G. Have emptied the app switcher and completely shut down both devices. Hopefully, it was just an MLB server issue. This was around 10:15 PM Monday night Eastern. Thanks again for your suggestions. Eric -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: AtBat No. Have you checked your app switcher? Are you using Wi-Fi or data? I can switch games and it takes maybe 3 to 5 seconds to get the new broadcast. This is over Wi-Fi with a 4S. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric SS Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: AtBat Anyone else having issues since updating? Tonight, it is taking 5 to 10 minutes, yes minutes, to switch screens or start a broadcast. I just did the update last night, but I think it was a very recent posting. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: iPhone field in contacts, was IPhone 3GS and iMessages
If I click on the mobile button to go through the additional labels iPhone is the first one in the list for me. First mobile is selected and then the first one after that is iPhone. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: iPhone field in contacts, was IPhone 3GS and iMessages Hello, I have heard people refer to this mysterious iPhone field before. Where is this supposed to be, I certainly don't seem to have it when I add or edit a contact. If I double tap let's say on the Mobile button next to the field where I put somebody's cell number I get a list with a Cancel button at the top left, then the heading Labels is at the top in the middle and after that I have the following 10 labels to choose from: Mobile (which would show as selected) Home Work Home Fax Work Fax Pager Assistant Car Company Mai Radio I really don't see the point of the iPhone field anyways because if somebody gives me their cell number I don't typically ask them whether they have an iPhone or not and I have never had issues with iMessages working, if I am sending a text and the recipient has iMessage enabled it will go as an iMessage, this is how it's supposed to work and I doubt Apple requires anybody to specifically indicate whether the number is an iPhone number or not. By the way, this is an iPhone 4S and iOS 5.1.1 for me. I seem to remember seeing the iPhone number field before, but it was a long time ago so could this maybe something on an iPhone 4? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone 3GS and iMessages Ok all to reliably send iMessages make sure the contact's number is in the iPhone field and not anywhere else. Did this to all my iOS contacts and have been able to reliably send iMessages ever since. On 18/09/2012 16:38, hannah day wrote: Hi I have a 3 gs and i do have i messages my self how ever i did need to reset my net work settin once chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN: hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day Twitter: hannahday2009 On 18/09/2012 16:31, Hope Paulos wrote: Hello. I have a friend that has an iPhone 3GS. I'm wondering if they can send iMessages? Every time I try to send a message to them, it turns out to be text. Unfortunately, I do not have a texting plan, and it is important that I get a hold of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question
Everyone gets Apple maps. Only 4S and 5 users get turn by turn announcements which come through Siri. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19/09/2012, at 5:59, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, Since iPhone 4 users iPhone 3GS users won't be getting Apple Maps, will they continue to have the other option, which was Google Maps or will Google Maps disappear once they UPGRADE to iOS 6? At 03:50 PM 9/17/2012, you wrote: Hi, In regards to maps, you won’t get the new maps features on the 4 in regards to turn by turn. Only 4s and 5 users will get that feature. Rich Cavallaro From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:45 PM To: Viphone Subject: revert to previous iOS procedure question Hi, I am considering upgrading my iphone 4 to iOS 6 but thinking of down-grading if it is too slow or maps don't work nicely. If I restore to backup from previous day would this return 5.1.1? Thanks for your help. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone and Gmail
It's worth noting that there are lots of disadvantages with using Exchange, including the inability to search, flag, or move messages to folders. For this reason, I've opted to go the IMAP route, but use Exchange to sync my contacts and calendars. You can use an app such as Ultimate Notifier or even the native Gmail app for push notifications. Grant On 9/18/12, Conrad Bennett bennettc1...@gmail.com wrote: If you using your iPhone to check your Gmail you can set it up as a Microsoft exchange account in that way you can have more control over it let me know if you need more help I'll be glad to help thanks Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Mike Cassidy mike.cassidy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi listers, I'm using Pop3, not Imap. I'm referring to a mass delete from the server; I have no problems with deleting individual messages. Thanks for help, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: 17 September 2012 19:38 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone and Gmail This may be true if you want to do a mass delete of messages from your server, but you can definitely delete individual messages from GMail on your iPhone. I assume we're talking IMAP here. As someone else said, you can move your messages into the delete folder. Alternatively, you can turn archiving off and then you'll have a delete button replace the archive button. On 17/09/12 13:05, Jesus Garcia wrote: Afternoon if what you want to do is remove all messages from the google server the only solution I found was to install thunderbird on your PC or on your Mac if you have one and delete the messages with the email client. I found no other way to do a server delete. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
OT Topic? Freedom Scientific Mobile Screen Reader?
Hello, I know this is OT, but I could not resist and possibly think of a new screen reader for the Windows 8 mobile phone from FS. So!! Is that going to mean SMA purchases and a new update to the FS mobile screen reader every 9 months to a year? I hope it's not another way to exploit the visually impaired community. I just know that with JAWS the cost of SMA for it is $120 for 2 if purchased before the due date. Only time will tell and if any of us decides to take the plunge to switch to a Windows 8 mobile based phone. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: transferring albums to iTunes - need clarification
Hi, iTunes separates everything by the artist, so if you have an album by James Taylor, but one of the songs lists the artist as James Taylor and Carole King, that song will show up as a separate album. What I do, is go through each song and make sure that the artist only has one name in it. If I want to keep track of the other name or names, I'll put them in the comments. It can be a pain especially with albums where there are multiple songs with two or more artists. I hope that helps. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPhone) On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:57 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I need to clarify an itunes issue. I have an album and when I look under the music library, all of the tracks by this artist, including the ones featuring another artist on that album are there. however, when I go to sync my iphone music library, the album seems to be divided between the artist and the featured artist. In other words, I am having to check the check box twice in order to get the entire album over to the iphone or ipad. can anyone tell me if there is another way to do this? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: transferring albums to iTunes - need clarification
Yes it does This is exactly what i am talking about Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, iTunes separates everything by the artist, so if you have an album by James Taylor, but one of the songs lists the artist as James Taylor and Carole King, that song will show up as a separate album. What I do, is go through each song and make sure that the artist only has one name in it. If I want to keep track of the other name or names, I'll put them in the comments. It can be a pain especially with albums where there are multiple songs with two or more artists. I hope that helps. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPhone) On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:57 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I need to clarify an itunes issue. I have an album and when I look under the music library, all of the tracks by this artist, including the ones featuring another artist on that album are there. however, when I go to sync my iphone music library, the album seems to be divided between the artist and the featured artist. In other words, I am having to check the check box twice in order to get the entire album over to the iphone or ipad. can anyone tell me if there is another way to do this? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
I would like to add that Rob from the Today in iOS podcast suggests making sure all of your apps are closed out before upgrading. Does anyone know if we will be able to do this update over wifi or if it must be done in iTunes? Corey Cook Facebook: mailto:corey.coo...@gmail.com corey.coo...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Shawn, As far as I know, ITunes 10.7 for pc came out last Thursday. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: 18 September 2012 22:01 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Hi Mark and Hank. If you're talking about Itunes 10.7 which has support for IOS 6 and the new I devices, that update got pushed to us Mac users last week. Also, I do believe there is a PC version of it, because my friend downloaded it for her PC when I told her about the update. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-18, at 12:34 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: backing up shsh blobs
I to wouldn't mind knowing this as well. Hank On 9/18/2012 4:12 PM, Ben Blatchford wrote: hello, i was wondering how to back up my shsh blobs for 5.1.1. i am jailbroken. my pc is a 64 bit windows7 machine. step by step instructions would be grate. thanks, ben Sent from my iPod -- personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Itunes works just fine. You can download it now from the Apple site if you wish. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: But will we be able to do the same on iTunes when the release the new one? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be more helpful. First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you update. You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app. When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation that the app update has begun downloading. However, if you go to your home screen right away, you will be able to see that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the download and install changing. So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at all. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and speculated on, I would say that if you have information which helps to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how much you can say. Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before commenting. Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you will be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you will have to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised. Cheers. -- Raul A. Gallegos There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not important right now. - Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Face book: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: kliph...@gmail.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or reliability issues? Thanks, Jim On
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
Hi, Since IOS 5.0, all updates are able to be installed wirelessly. I don't see why IOS 6 would be any different. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Corey Michael Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to add that Rob from the Today in iOS podcast suggests making sure all of your apps are closed out before upgrading. Does anyone know if we will be able to do this update over wifi or if it must be done in iTunes? Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Shawn, As far as I know, ITunes 10.7 for pc came out last Thursday. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: 18 September 2012 22:01 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Hi Mark and Hank. If you're talking about Itunes 10.7 which has support for IOS 6 and the new I devices, that update got pushed to us Mac users last week. Also, I do believe there is a PC version of it, because my friend downloaded it for her PC when I told her about the update. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-18, at 12:34 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
Hi, I don't recall needing to do anything special. Plug in your device, hit the update button, and follow the prompts. You'll be asked if you want to restore from a backup or, set up as a new device. Thats the only real decision you need to make. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: What’s the best way to upgrade iTunes on a PC? I ask this because 1 month ago I upgraded iTunes on my PC, but it got to be a pretty complicated set of steps before I was successful. I thought at the time I must have not done it right, or at least optimally. Before I attempt again, I want to make sure I know the optimal way to do this. Thanks in advance. Keith From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Shawn, As far as I know, ITunes 10.7 for pc came out last Thursday. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: 18 September 2012 22:01 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Hi Mark and Hank. If you're talking about Itunes 10.7 which has support for IOS 6 and the new I devices, that update got pushed to us Mac users last week. Also, I do believe there is a PC version of it, because my friend downloaded it for her PC when I told her about the update. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-18, at 12:34 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: backing up shsh blobs
so how do i use them if i want to go back to 5.1.1? Sent from my iPod On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, If you've opened Cydia on your device then Cydia will have made a copy of them on it's servers. They are of limited use at the moment though; there has been some missinformation posted to the list in the past few days regarding this. Cheers, Ben. On 9/19/12, Ben Blatchford benbla...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i was wondering how to back up my shsh blobs for 5.1.1. i am jailbroken. my pc is a 64 bit windows7 machine. step by step instructions would be grate. thanks, ben Sent from my iPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
