Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread RobH.
We have read it has a voice for verbal notifications,   so a key bit is 
there.
And why take it out, it still has to run ios surely,  though Ok, a dedicated 
version for the new hardware.

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Hello,
I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and 
nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not 
at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out 
someday, I guess.

On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, all,

 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or 
 information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I 
 know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?

 Thanks,
 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

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Re: iPhone Colors

2014-09-10 Thread RobH.
You summed up the emoticon aspect of the colours, waqrmth in the gold,  col 
or even hcill with grays and silver.   Silver will sparkle somei n sunlight 
too of course, but gold does it more warmly.

Mrs really wanted oneo f the gold,  but now the 6's are out, she's not said 
yet. The rose gold one probably, which is slightly pinkish, a more girly 
type gold.
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Subject: iPhone Colors


Maybe some of you who have seen or still have some vision can help me with 
this. I use my iPhone since the 3gs and through 4S 5 and 5S without case 
most of the time and without screen though I have tried screens on and off. 
The idea of a gold or silver phone, especially the gold, sounds really neat 
to me though I've never seen. It's not that I want to show off to people or 
anything; it just sounds like it would be pretty and bright. The words 
space grey make me think of a rainy day or one where rain is alway 
threatening (I do like rain but maybe you get the idea of the mood of the 
association). Maybe not a rainy day; maybe just kind of a foreboding or 
foggy one. But I know gold or silver is going to show dirt more too. Do gold 
and silver really look that cheerful in phones or am I just asking for a 
dirt magnet?

Thanks for any advice.

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Re: apple watch rumored to have no speaker

2014-09-10 Thread Krister Ekstrom
But just because it has a speaker doesn't necessarily mean it has VoiceOver, in 
fact i would be very surpriced if it had. I still believe accessibility is 
something we should not take for granted even if it's Apple but maybe my belief 
is forgiven given that i come from a country that doesn't have any anti 
discrimination laws like the ADA worth mentioning.
/Krister

 10 sep 2014 kl. 03:20 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 The demo had a speaker, and the video said the device had a speaker. Based on 
 that, I'd have to call this particular rumor completely false.
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com 
 mailto:m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I just saw this tweet from someone that is close to apple.  That apple watch 
 does not have a speaker.  I don't know if this means there will be no voice 
 over, or if there will be blu-tooth support for headsets.  Like I said, 
 rumored.
 
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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Pete Nalda
I'd also like to point out that the speaker WAS talked about during Johnny 
Ives's design presentation. 

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 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 David, you are correct. I'd forgotten it won't be released until 2015. Well, 
 we shall cross that bridge when we come to it. :)
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
 the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 2:51 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Remember, this is a prototype watch. It is not yet in mass production. They 
 said it will work with sound. This includes Siri.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 8:47, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it
 didn't talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.
 
 On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and
 nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not
 at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out
 someday, I guess.
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or
 information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I
 know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Pablo Morales
I have a question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8, even
though, I need to do a restore urgent. How can I reinstall IOs 7, and do not
download the IOs8?
Thanks
P

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

Yes, and it is really a bad idea to try and upgrade on the 17th as soon as
iOS 8 shows up as an update. All of you who tried to listen to the live
stream today, what was your experience? It was anything but good and
upgrading as part of the first rush will probably be the same and you are
asking for problems. I would wait at least 3 or 4 days if you want a smooth
and problem free experience and don't forget to make a backup before, then
force quit all apps and at least shut down your phone and restart it, even
better do a reset all network settings which will also reboot the phone,
then sign back in to your WiFi and then attempt the upgrade.
I guaranty next Wednesday there will be a lot of posts, many from people who
say the upgrade worked fine and a few who will have problems with the update
not completing or the device going silent and maybe not coming back. Another
really good idea is to do the upgrade via iTunes, you will get much more
feedback and won't have to deal with the unnerving situation of your phone
going silent for maybe an hour or more.

Regards,
SieghardI can only 

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Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
criticizing Apple for such a bad update.

On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a 
 lot today so I could be mistaken.

 --
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 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
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 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;

 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
 Anthony


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RE: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Pablo Morales
I am wondering, apple watch. What does that mean?

A watch that is going to tell us the time?

What are going to be the features for a sighted person, with a apple watch?

I mean, what advantages is going to take over a iPhone X. Any body knows more 
about the features of this future device?

Thanks

P

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

 

David, you are correct. I'd forgotten it won't be released until 2015. Well, we 
shall cross that bridge when we come to it. :)

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 9, 2014, at 2:51 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

Remember, this is a prototype watch. It is not yet in mass production. They 
said it will work with sound. This includes Siri.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone




On 10 Sep 2014, at 8:47, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

 

I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it

didn't talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.

 

On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello,

I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and

nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not

at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out

someday, I guess.

 

On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 

Hi, all,

 

Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or

information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I

know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?

 

Thanks,

Teresa

 

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing

with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 

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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, I know it. Why you think that I  respond how I did?


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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

Pablo I don't mean to be rude but you were one of the people that I was
referring to.

On 9/9/14, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, yes. I learned the lesson. Maybe for June 2015 IOs 8  will be with 
 no bugs, then I will install it in my phone.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

 You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs 
 to wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time 
 criticizing Apple for such a bad update.

 On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a 
 lot today so I could be mistaken.

 --
 Cheryl

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 they are new every morning;
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 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;

 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
 Anthony


 Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi P,

Go goole Apple iWatch. There are hundrets if not thousands or millions
of article about Apple iWatch.

On 10/09/2014, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am wondering, apple watch. What does that mean?

 A watch that is going to tell us the time?

 What are going to be the features for a sighted person, with a apple watch?

 I mean, what advantages is going to take over a iPhone X. Any body knows
 more about the features of this future device?

 Thanks

 P





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?



 David, you are correct. I'd forgotten it won't be released until 2015. Well,
 we shall cross that bridge when we come to it. :)



 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


 On Sep 9, 2014, at 2:51 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember, this is a prototype watch. It is not yet in mass production. They
 said it will work with sound. This includes Siri.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone




 On 10 Sep 2014, at 8:47, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:



 I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it

 didn't talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.



 On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and

 nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not

 at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out

 someday, I guess.



 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:



 Hi, all,



 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or

 information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I

 know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?



 Thanks,

 Teresa



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 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks



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J.Scanner Stand via @ProBizMgmt

2014-09-10 Thread Kevin Chao
September 9, 2014
On 7/7/14, Ted Drake came to our home (Janice  Kevin) to purchase the MSS...
Ted told me that our product is a great beta, but it is a 20% product,
and he wanted us to make a 80% product that would work for Intuit Go
Payment on iPhone. The JSS has the values of the Mobile Scanning
Solution, built on the brand of PMI, and the prototype was developed
in record time.
We are in the Hardware 2.0 industry, making stabilization stands for
mobile apps, specifically mobile image capture/video feed productivity
tools. We revolutionized the industrial era, brought the manufacturing
 production age back into Fremont (Silicon Valley)...
The business articles that the JSS grounds are:
W-2 tax forms(two side-by-side);
Plastic/paper cards (credit, debit, and business cards);
Paper cash money;
And, receipts (expense reports).
It was on July 7, 2014, where we stopped marketing the #MSS via 
@ProMoneyImage...
The other mobile OCR apps that the J.Scanner Stand works with are:
PayPal, Evernote, Expensify, Money Reader.

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RE: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Tess
I can only say that to understand everything it does is to listen to the
Keynote.

I just finished listening to it and it will do allot. Especially when it
comes to fitness.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

 

I am wondering, apple watch. What does that mean?

A watch that is going to tell us the time?

What are going to be the features for a sighted person, with a apple watch?

I mean, what advantages is going to take over a iPhone X. Any body knows
more about the features of this future device?

Thanks

P

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

 

David, you are correct. I'd forgotten it won't be released until 2015. Well,
we shall cross that bridge when we come to it. :)

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 9, 2014, at 2:51 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

Remember, this is a prototype watch. It is not yet in mass production. They
said it will work with sound. This includes Siri.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone



On 10 Sep 2014, at 8:47, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

 

I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it

didn't talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.

 

On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello,

I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and

nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not

at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out

someday, I guess.

 

On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 

Hi, all,

 

Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or

information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I

know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?

 

Thanks,

Teresa

 

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing

with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 

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Re: JK41414: The Birth of Pro Money Image Inc. and the Creation of the Mobile Scanning Solution

2014-09-10 Thread Kevin Chao
Yes, John; thank you very much for asking...
Please visit:
http://chaosat.wordpress.com/
for more details on my product.

Best Regards,

Kevin Chao, Accessibility Visionary

On 9/9/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you have any more information on this product?

 On 9/9/14, Kevin Chao kevincha...@gmail.com wrote:
 August 30, 2014
 It was mid-morning on April 14, 2014, when I received an iMessage from
 my former manager at AMAC (Georgia Institute of Technology) asking if
 I would be able to help her with GPS apps on iPhone. Tamara Rorie knew
 I use to work with the pioneers and trail blazers' in accessible GPS,
 Sendero Group, and we have always picked each other's brains. I gave
 Tamara a call ASAP, where in the conversation she told me about her
 colleague Judy Dixon who wrote a book about taking pictures with the
 iPhone, and about a particular section within Judy's book that talked
 about a template she created that allowed her to use banking apps to
 deposit checks using the iPhone camera. The details of the book are as
 follows:
 Get the Picture! Viewing the World with the iPhone Camera (GETPIC)
 Judith M. Dixon
 Almost exactly two years earlier, 2012...It was while I was in Atlanta,
 GA, working under Tamara at AMAC, where I told her about Chase Quick
 Deposit allowing one to deposit a check without having to go to the
 bank or ATM. Both Tamara and I are blind, so we had to both depend on
 sighted assistance whenever using the iPhone Chase Quick Deposit
 feature, as it required aligning the check within the blue frame,
 nearly perfect stability, and to focus on a clear image of the check.
 This was in the Spring of 2012...
 Fast-forward to the afternoon of 4/14/14, Janice Messier and I
 connected via Lyft. The first two destinations for the afternoon were
 Chase Bank and Michaels Arts  Crafts. Neither one of us knew that we
 would end up bonding over a stabilization stand/box, experience love 
 lost in our personal/professional lives, become best friends, lovers,
 soul mates, and are now inseparable.
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 commitment to each other for life until 3005. These exact same
 tenant's is how we approach rescuing lives, saving people, changing
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 disabilities. Janice's career has been as a private hospice care nurse
 in the healthcare industry for clients who are elderly and who have
 cognitive disabilities/learning challenges.
 Between the resources I had available at JPMC corporate and retail
 branch I was having difficulty finding someone who was able to help me
 make the check holder found in Get the Picture! Viewing the World
 with the iPhone Camera. Fortunately and luckily, while we were at
 Michaels, Janice asked me about the project I was trying to create,
 where I told her about the idea, and that I was unable to do it by
 myself due to being visually impaired. She quickly piped up very
 enthusiastically, I'm artsey fartsey, so let me give it a try. I
 showed her the excerpt from Judy's book, we dashed around in the Arts
  Crafts store, got the required supplies, and went back to my former
 home branch (they very graciously allowed us to use the back-office
 that was available) to start making this check holder/template.
 We are both inclusive in our design and perfectionist in our
 presentation. I wanted to make sure that it worked with all the
 different sizes of checks, and she wanted to build the walls and
 roof...I only wanted the floor/base, but she was focused on completing
 the job, so I got more than just the grounding platform and received a
 stabilization stand that we have called the Mobile Scanning Solution
 (MSS).
 The way the top was designed was around the principles of universal
 access, where I wanted to ensure that it worked with iPad Mini/iPhone
 and Janice wanted to ensure that it worked with Samsung Galaxy Note/S.
 We were ruthless in our testing and experiments, which included
 materials, size dimensions, and being very open to all suggestions our
 friends/colleagues provided us.
 The final product that we ended up making available around the world
 to people who are blind/visually impaired has:
 a base that grounds paper documents (e.g. 8.5 x 11, mail,
 hand-outs/flyers, brochures, checks, etc.);
 is made out of Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene (ABS) Plastic;
 and is a stabilization stand for all mobile devices that are 7.9 or
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New Apple iPods

2014-09-10 Thread Fanus
Hello list
Would Apple have announced new iPods yesterday or is there usually a later date 
for iPod announcements? I want to purchase an iPod but I would rather wait a 
while than to purchase now just to hear after a month or so that there is a new 
model coming soon.
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Re: accessing the presentation

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
If they are replaying the whole thing it's two hours.

On 9/10/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 How long is it?

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 06:03, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 For anybody who went to the website and still couldn't get the whole
 presentation even after the live presentation was over, now I am finding
 that if I go to apple.com it reliably loads the presentation and then starts
 from the beginning. Note that when you go to apple.com there will be first
 some seconds of silence and then a fairly long period of instrumental
 playing (with video of course but I can't see that) and then the actual
 presentation starts. I had been mostly able to listen to the presentation
 live with some restarting and language overlay adventures, and then I saw
 that it seemed they did an actual replay but later when I went to the site I
 had only seen various short excerpts that might be played. But now it is
 definitely up and playing. I quit safari and started again just to make sure
 it really was loading the presentation reliably at the beginning.

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Re: New Apple iPods

2014-09-10 Thread trahern culver
hey apple did not announce a new iPod yesterday much to my disappointment 
i’m hoping they will anounce one  in the coming months or during the next 
apple event kind regards trey

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RE: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Rash
That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.  Probably
just not turned on.   

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:47 PM
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I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it didn't
talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.

On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch 
 and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. 
 It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. 
 We'll find out someday, I guess.

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, all,

 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description 
 or information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be 
 accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have
Voiceover?

 Thanks,
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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Sieghard.

Well we are not allowed much to comment on anything. There are bugs, but there 
are also especially for braille users a number of improvements, that really 
will improve my experience of using IPhone. I will not tell anything more until 
wednesday the 17., but after that I will have great news for some of you. It is 
as christmas eve.

Best regards Annie.
Den 10/09/2014 kl. 06.41 skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:

 Good idea, Pablo, although hopefully you won't have to wait that long. But I
 have been beta testing iOS 8 since June and there are definitely some
 annoying bugs and it appears few of them got fixed in the Goldmaster version
 which was released today and which is the version which usually is released
 to the public. 
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:48 PM
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 Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
 
 Oh, yes. I learned the lesson. Maybe for June 2015 IOs 8  will be with no
 bugs, then I will install it in my phone.
 
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
 wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
 criticizing Apple for such a bad update.
 
 On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a 
 lot today so I could be mistaken.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
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 Hi Everyone;
 
 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.
 
 Thanks
 Anthony
 
 
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Re: accessing the presentation

2014-09-10 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

The direct URL for the keynote is
http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14pijnadfpvkjnfvpijhabdfvpijbadfv09/vod/14oijhbaefvohi9_1_650_vod.mov
- the file is around 2.8GB.
You should be able to download this file  play it in your media
player of choice.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 If they are replaying the whole thing it's two hours.

 On 9/10/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 How long is it?

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 06:03, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 For anybody who went to the website and still couldn't get the whole
 presentation even after the live presentation was over, now I am finding
 that if I go to apple.com it reliably loads the presentation and then
 starts
 from the beginning. Note that when you go to apple.com there will be
 first
 some seconds of silence and then a fairly long period of instrumental
 playing (with video of course but I can't see that) and then the actual
 presentation starts. I had been mostly able to listen to the presentation
 live with some restarting and language overlay adventures, and then I saw
 that it seemed they did an actual replay but later when I went to the site
 I
 had only seen various short excerpts that might be played. But now it is
 definitely up and playing. I quit safari and started again just to make
 sure
 it really was loading the presentation reliably at the beginning.

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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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 And now, every day:
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 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
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Re: iPhone6 and 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Sieghard.

That would be great. I can not create a picture in my head how the phones will 
looklike.

Is there any difference on the speakers in the two phones, and does anyone know 
if the speakers has been improved.

Despite that I am blind, I would consider the 6+. I am using braille and in 
some instances it can be helpful to have larger pages shown, the battery life 
will make a difference to me, and if the sound is better it would really mean a 
lot. I am a woman and pockets is not a safe place for my phone maybe in my 
coat, so anyway I will have to figure out another carying possibility.

Best regards Annie.
Den 10/09/2014 kl. 06.49 skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:

 The iPhone 6+ has an amazing 24 hours of 3G talk time this compares to 10
 hours for the 5S and 14 hours for the iPhone 6. Music playback on the iPhone
 5S is rated at 40 hours, 50 hours for the iPhone 6 and 80 hours for the
 iPhone 6+. Apple apparently is using the space in the larger phone to put in
 a pretty hefty battery. I heard 2900 MAH, that is pretty much twice the size
 of an iPhone 5S battery.
 
 I'll post an actual size comparison shortly. Rob from the Today in iOS
 podcast lists the actual dimensions (length and width) for the 6 and 6+ and
 it's easy to find the ones for the 5S. I am into woodworking, so I'll use
 quarter inch plywood which is only marginally thinner at 6mm than the iPhone
 6 at 6.9mm and the 6+ at 7.2 mm and I'll make exact pieces for all 3 phones.
 I will then try to explain the real size difference in terms of  the size
 of a 25 cent coin longer or a finger width wider or something like that.
 We already know that even the iPhone 6+ at 7.2mm thick is thinner than the
 5S which is I think 7.6mm.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Of Joanne Chua
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 Subject: Re: iPhone6 and 6+
 
 with $100 extra, you get a bigger screen, bigger battery, and according to
 some, you get crispier pictures and better displays. If you don't care for
 those things, then, it makes not much different eventually.
 Is $100 enough for someone that is totally blind to get an iphone6+ and have
 a better battery life? I suppose, that depends on how better is better, and
 how often and frequent you use and need to charge the phone.
 
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
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 Send from my iPad
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 8:06, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi everyone,
 
 I looked on applevis and saw the blog but, I can't really tell the
 substantive differences between 6 and 6+ accept a better camera.  Was thre
 anything I missed or overlooked that anyone can think of  about the price
 diference?
 
 applepay sounds intresting but, it'd be nice if they could get more
 retailers.  like shopping chains like wal-mart, krogers etc.   anyway we'll
 see how that develops.
 
 iWatch given the price I'm not sure it's nothing more htan a toy really.
 Ithink the phone will do most of the work the watch is just something to
 wear on your wrist.   we'll see how that develops too though.  they still
 have a while to work onit.
 Thanks for any comments about  the phones.  The price difference seems a
 lot just for a camera difference is why I ask.
 
 Sincerely,
 Billy Maynard 
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RE: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Rose Combs
Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I don't
have a lot of.  


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Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on no
contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.

Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If so,
 which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 6+
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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I've never tried Siri without voiceover so didn't realize that. Even
when my kids have played with it the Voice over was always on.

On 9/10/14, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.  Probably
 just not turned on.

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 I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it didn't
 talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.

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 Hello,
 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch
 and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me.
 It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations.
 We'll find out someday, I guess.

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, all,

 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description
 or information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be
 accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have
 Voiceover?

 Thanks,
 Teresa

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New phone dimentions

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean
much. I had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the
three sizes of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I
would try to put it in a way which some may understand better. So what
I did was compare the sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I
know that this won't help everyone but for those who work with
braille, the  5s is 12.5 lines long and 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7
lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8 lines wide.

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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings. I want to look at both of them to see how big 4.7 and 5.5
inches really is on a new phone, but I am leaning more towards the 6.
The 6 Plus seems a little too big for me and I don't really want to
carry around a mini iPad that is alsoa  phone. In addition, the 6 is
$100 less, so its a win win.

Wayne

On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the
 stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.

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 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I
 don't
 have a lot of.


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 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.

 Kawal.

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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Dan Beaver
If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen this 
crashing problem.

Dan Beaver

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I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail 
crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:

 The 17th.  HTH.

 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;

 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
 Anthony


 Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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Re: New phone dimentions

2014-09-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh, this is really helpful! Doing it by lines of braille is still concrete.

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 When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean
 much. I had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the
 three sizes of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I
 would try to put it in a way which some may understand better. So what
 I did was compare the sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I
 know that this won't help everyone but for those who work with
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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Why do you think the ocr will not change? I admit I'm not at all an expert in 
this area, but it isn't just the sabilization in the camera that has improved 
so I'm thinking that the ocr might improve whether you get the 6 or the 6+ 
though I'm thinking the extra stabilization in the 6+ might give it an edge. 
Not challenging you; just want to know why you don't think the ocr will change.


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On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:51 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the
 stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.
 
 On 9/10/14, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I
 don't
 have a lot of.
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
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 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+
 
 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on no
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It really isn't two hours once you subtract the questions and stuff; just 
listen to the basic part.

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The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
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(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I don't
 have a lot of.  
 
 
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 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+
 
 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on no
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Because the OCR has to do with the software not the hardware. It may
have a better picture to work with though.

On 9/10/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 It really isn't two hours once you subtract the questions and stuff; just
 listen to the basic part.

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 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I
 don't
 have a lot of.


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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
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 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on
 no
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.

 Kawal.

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 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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Re: New phone dimentions

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Glad it helped some one.

On 9/10/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 Oh, this is really helpful! Doing it by lines of braille is still concrete.

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 wrote:

 When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean
 much. I had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the
 three sizes of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I
 would try to put it in a way which some may understand better. So what
 I did was compare the sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I
 know that this won't help everyone but for those who work with
 braille, the  5s is 12.5 lines long and 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7
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Re: New Apple iPods

2014-09-10 Thread Brent Harding
I don't know if they refresh those quite as often as the other devices either. 
I heard that the ipod classic quietly was discontinued, although they didn't 
mention it in the presentation.

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  hey apple did not announce a new iPod yesterday much to my disappointment i’m 
hoping they will anounce one  in the coming months or during the next apple 
event kind regards trey

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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread RobH.
I had summaries on other lists, but different mailboxes, so will go fetch 
and post in a minute or few.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+


It really isn't two hours once you subtract the questions and stuff; just 
listen to the basic part.

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(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I 
 don't
 have a lot of.


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on 
 no
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If so,
 which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 6+
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Re: New Apple iPods

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
It is my understanding that another rollout will take place in
October. I was hoping for a new Apple TV as well.

On 9/10/14, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 I don't know if they refresh those quite as often as the other devices
 either. I heard that the ipod classic quietly was discontinued, although
 they didn't mention it in the presentation.

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   hey apple did not announce a new iPod yesterday much to my disappointment
 i'm hoping they will anounce one  in the coming months or during the next
 apple event kind regards trey

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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Wayne Merritt
A possibel issue to consider is that the 6 Plus may be in high demand
and short supply. Nothing wrong with going to the store to look at
one, but if the demand for the 6 Plus is anything like the demand for
the 5S last year, there may not be many to go around, at least
initially.

Wayne

On 9/10/14, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I had summaries on other lists, but different mailboxes, so will go fetch
 and post in a minute or few.
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+


 It really isn't two hours once you subtract the questions and stuff; just
 listen to the basic part.

 --
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
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 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I
 don't
 have a lot of.


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
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 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on
 no
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.

 Kawal.

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 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If so,
 which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 6+
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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+ review

2014-09-10 Thread RobH.
Apple unveils 4.7-inch iPhone 6 and 5.5-inch iPhone 6 Plus
by MacDailyNews
[cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Apple today announced iPhone 6 and iPhone 6
Plus, the biggest advancements in iPhone history, featuring two new
models with stunning 4.7-inch and 5.5-inch Retina HD displays, and
packed with innovative technologies in an all-new dramatically thin and
seamless design. The new iPhones feature a precision unibody enclosure
of anodized aluminum that conforms seamlessly with the shaped glass of
the display, resulting in a completely smooth and continuous surface.
iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are engineered to be the thinnest ever,
delivering a bigger display in a design that is still comfortable to
hold and easy to use.
Packed with innovative new technologies, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus
include: the Apple-designed A8 chip with second generation 64-bit
desktop-class architecture for blazing fast performance and power
efficiency; advanced iSight and FaceTime HD cameras; ultrafast wireless
technologies; and Apple Pay™, an easier way to simply and securely make
payments with just the touch of a finger.¹ Both models include iOS 8,
the latest version of the world’s most advanced mobile operating system,
featuring a simpler, faster and more intuitive user experience with new
Messages and Photos features, QuickType™ keyboard, a new Health app,
Family Sharing and iCloud Drive℠.
“iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are the biggest advancements in iPhone
history,” said Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO. “The iPhone is the most loved
smartphone in the world with the highest customer satisfaction in the
industry and we are making it much better in every way. Only Apple can
combine the best hardware, software and services at this unprecedented
level and we think customers are going to love it.”
For the first time iPhone is available in two new sizes: iPhone 6
features a stunning 4.7-inch Retina HD display with 1334 x 750
resolution, providing 38 percent more viewing area than iPhone 5s, while
iPhone 6 Plus features an even bigger 5.5-inch Retina HD display with
1920 x 1080 resolution, providing 88 percent more viewing area and
nearly three times the pixels than iPhone 5s. The Retina HD displays
offer advanced technologies including higher contrast for deeper blacks
and dual-domain pixels for more accurate colors at wider viewing angles.
With second generation 64-bit desktop-class architecture, the all-new A8
chip offers faster performance and is more energy efficient, delivering
higher sustained performance with great battery life. With Metal™, a new
graphics technology in iOS 8, developers can take performance of the A8
chip even further to bring console-class 3D games to iPhone. The A8 chip
also includes a new, powerful Apple-designed image signal processor that
enables advanced camera and video features.
Both models include the M8 motion coprocessor that gathers motion data
from the accelerometer, gyroscope, compass and the new barometer, which
senses air pressure to provide relative elevation. The M8 motion
coprocessor can continuously measure your motion data, even when the
device is asleep, saving battery life for fitness apps that use the
sensors all day. With iOS 8, motion data from M8 appears in the Health
app so you can see how many flights of stairs you've climbed, or how far
you've walked or run. Developers can use CoreMotion APIs that take
advantage of M8 and HealthKit to create apps that help you take better
care of your health and fitness.
iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus introduce Apple Pay, an easy way to securely
pay for physical goods and services in stores or apps with just the
touch of a finger. Users can pay securely and conveniently in stores by
simply holding the phone near the contactless reader while keeping a
finger on Touch ID™; there is no need to unlock your iPhone or launch an
app. With Apple Pay, you can also make one-touch purchases within apps,
without having to enter credit card or shipping information. All payment
information is kept private, encrypted and stored securely in the Secure
Element, a chip inside the new iPhones.
The iSight camera gets even better with a new sensor featuring Focus
Pixels for faster autofocus, making it easier to quickly capture any
moment. iPhone 6 Plus users will also benefit from optical image
stabilization technology that compensates for hand shake in low light
and works with iOS 8 to reduce subject motion. High-definition video on
iPhone improves with faster frame rates up to 60fps for 1080p video and
240fps for slo-mo, as well as continuous autofocus, cinematic video
stabilization and time-lapse video. The FaceTime HD camera now captures
over 80 percent more light with a new sensor, larger f/2.2 aperture and
advanced new features including burst mode and HDR video.
With faster LTE download speeds of up to 150 Mbps, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6
Plus users can browse, download and stream content faster. The new
iPhones also support high-quality voice calls over LTE (VoLTE) as well
as Wi-Fi 

Re: apple streaming live

2014-09-10 Thread Wayne Merritt
AppleVis has a good recap of what was talked about here:
http://applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements

Hth,
Wayne

On 9/9/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Rose and others,

 You can subscribe to the Apple Keynotes Podcast and you will always get
 Apple events mostly the day after they happen.

 If somebody wants a good summary of what was said, I once again can only
 recommend the Today in iOS podcast.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rose Combs
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: apple streaming live

 I don't have Apple TV but I still what the highlights, a few of us really
 had to work today.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Fred Olver
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: apple streaming live

 Supposedly it will be repeated on Apple TV soon.

 Fred Olver
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald Moore don.moor...@comcast.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:49 PM
 Subject: RE: apple streaming live


 So, is there a place to download or watch or listen to the program?



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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: apple streaming live

 I was forced to give up. In the first 20-30 minutes there was chineese or
 japaneese speech together with the english, it is rather disturbing when
 english is not your main language. I am really disappointed. I had to
 refresh the stream so many times

 Best regards Annie.
 Den 09/09/2014 kl. 20.43 skrev Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com:

 I think you have to keep in mind the sheer volume of people trying to
 tune
 into this thing. I imagine the audience of people trying to access these
 events live has grown. I had to reload a few times but it was worth it and
 traffic may have gone down once the phones were shown or at least I didn't
 have as much trouble after that.

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 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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 I don't know about others, but I think apple did a very poor job
 streaming this event. I hope the podcast is made available soon!

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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Brent Harding

After that, they talk about the Apple Watch and payments.

- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+


It really isn't two hours once you subtract the questions and stuff; just 
listen to the basic part.


--
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I 
don't

have a lot of.


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Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
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Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on 
no

contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.

Kawal.


On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of

audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.


Kawal.


On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com

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I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If so,
which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 6+
will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.

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Re: New Apple iPods

2014-09-10 Thread Brent Harding
Yeah, a new Apple TV would be cool. I'm hoping they did one that did cable 
cards, so we can use it to watch Time Warner or whoever. I'm not sure if 
that's what they mean by the TWC integration rumor though.


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Subject: Re: New Apple iPods


It is my understanding that another rollout will take place in
October. I was hoping for a new Apple TV as well.

On 9/10/14, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

I don't know if they refresh those quite as often as the other devices
either. I heard that the ipod classic quietly was discontinued, although
they didn't mention it in the presentation.

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  hey apple did not announce a new iPod yesterday much to my 
disappointment

i'm hoping they will anounce one  in the coming months or during the next
apple event kind regards trey

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Re: New Apple iPods

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I read somewhere that they are having a lot of difficulty working with
some of the cable companies.

On 9/10/14, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 Yeah, a new Apple TV would be cool. I'm hoping they did one that did cable
 cards, so we can use it to watch Time Warner or whoever. I'm not sure if
 that's what they mean by the TWC integration rumor though.

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:18 AM
 Subject: Re: New Apple iPods


 It is my understanding that another rollout will take place in
 October. I was hoping for a new Apple TV as well.

 On 9/10/14, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 I don't know if they refresh those quite as often as the other devices
 either. I heard that the ipod classic quietly was discontinued, although
 they didn't mention it in the presentation.

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   hey apple did not announce a new iPod yesterday much to my
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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That's right and that's what I was meaning. The ocr improvement itself may 
depend on the apps but it can only improve so much without actual hardware 
improvement. They are separate but definitely tied together.

-- 
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:59 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Because the OCR has to do with the software not the hardware. It may
 have a better picture to work with though.
 
 On 9/10/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 It really isn't two hours once you subtract the questions and stuff; just
 listen to the basic part.
 
 --
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I
 don't
 have a lot of.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+
 
 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on
 no
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou
 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If so,
 which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 6+
 will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.
 
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Downloading iOS 7.1.2 firmware, was: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,

I am posting this to the list, but also CC you privately in case you miss
it.

You can download the latest iOS 7 device software file from the following
address:

http://IPSWDownloader.com

The site is called IPSWDownloader because the extension of an Apple Device
Software file is .IPSW.

There are 3 combo boxes on that page, just use the c quick nav key to jump
to the first one which is for Device. Here you can pick iPhone, iPad,
iPod Touch etc. If you want to download iOS 7.1.2 for you riPhone, select
iPhone, then go on to the next box to select your model. If you want the
file for an iPhone 5S from ATT, then select 5S GSM. If your iPhone is
from Verizon I believe you need the 5S Global option. Lastly, select the
version of iOS you want to download. Keep in mind that even though you can
download older versions, you can only use the one you have, e.g. if you are
on iOS 7.1.1 you can't download and restore to version iOS 6. Once you are
done making those 3 selections, find where it says  Download Firmware 7.1.2
(11D257) for iPhone 5S (GSM which is a bit further down and which is also
read as a heading level 4 and not as a link or a button. I found that in
Internet Explorer 11 I had to rout e the Jaws to the PC cursor and then do a
left click on that in order to start the download since enter didn't seem to
work. In any case, once I did that I was asked if I wanted to Open or
Save the file, definitely you need to save it.

The .IPSW file which you are saving is a large file (about 1.43 Gb in the
case of iOS 7.1.2) which contains everything you need. Now read the next few
comments/steps carefully because otherwise you won't get anywhere:

1. If you use Windows, the file will show up as a compressed file with a
.zip extension. Do not under any circumstances extract the archive!

2. If you have set your Folder Preferences to Hide Extensions from known
File Types, turn this off by going to the ffolder where you saved the file,
then click on the Tools menu and on Folder Options. Do A Control+Tab to
go to the View tab. Tab twice to get into the treeview and towards the
bottom find where it says Hide Extensions for known file types, On and
turn it off by pressing the spacebar. Now tab to OK and activate it. I can
get there quickly by pressing page down once I'm in the treeview, then
pressing the down arrow just once puts me in the right place.

3. Now you will see the full file name with the extension and it should be
like this:

iPhone6,1_7.1.2_11D257_Restore.zip

4. Delete the zip extension and change it to IPSW. The file name should
read like this:

iPhone6,1_7.1.2_11D257_Restore.ipsw

Once you do and press enter, you get the following warning:

Rename
If you change a file name extension, the file might become unusable.
Are you sure you want to change it?
Yes No

Activate the Yes button.

5. Go back to Tools and Folder Options, press Control+Tab, then tab
twice to get into the treeview, go back to Hide extensions for known file
types and turn it back on, tab to OK and activate it.

6. If you now review the file including the size and file type, Windows
should say it is a Apple Device Software Update File.

7. Now if you had to do a restore, you would connect your phone to iTunes,
go to the device section and tab to the Restore button. Instead of
activating it simply by pressing the spacebar or enter, you would hold the
shift key and then press enter. This will open a standard Windows open file
dialogue. Simply browse to the .IPSW file (I would make sure it's downloaded
to your local hard drive and that it is not on a USB stick or external
drive) and after selecting the file press enter on the Open button. From
here on the restore proceeds normally.

Of course if you have more than one device, e.g. you have an iPhone 5S and
an iPad Mini, you would have to download the appropriate IPSW file for each
device.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

I have a question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8, even
though, I need to do a restore urgent. How can I reinstall IOs 7, and do not
download the IOs8?
Thanks
P

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

Yes, and it is really a bad idea to try and upgrade on the 17th as soon as
iOS 8 shows up as an update. All of you who tried to listen to the live
stream today, what was your experience? It was anything but good and
upgrading as part of the first rush will probably be the same and you are
asking for problems. I would wait at least 3 or 4 days if you want a smooth
and problem free experience and don't forget to make a backup before, then
force quit all apps and at least shut down 

RE: J.Scanner Stand via @ProBizMgmt

2014-09-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Kevin,

What are these strange emails? I understand you are involved in this stand
which apparently exists but has no website where one can buy it. John asked
for information and back comes another strange email where somebody is in
the Hardware 2.0 Industy whatever that is and where somebody apparently
revolutionized the industrial era. I am not sure if creating a plastic
stand to support a device to make it easier to take a picture of a cheque or
credit card or whatever qualifies as revolutionizing the industrial era.
If this product exists, why not just provide a website where one can read
about it and order it securely and, preferably, with a satisfaction/money
back guaranty?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:40 AM
To: viphone
Subject: J.Scanner Stand via @ProBizMgmt

September 9, 2014
On 7/7/14, Ted Drake came to our home (Janice  Kevin) to purchase the
MSS...
Ted told me that our product is a great beta, but it is a 20% product, and
he wanted us to make a 80% product that would work for Intuit Go Payment on
iPhone. The JSS has the values of the Mobile Scanning Solution, built on the
brand of PMI, and the prototype was developed in record time.
We are in the Hardware 2.0 industry, making stabilization stands for mobile
apps, specifically mobile image capture/video feed productivity tools. We
revolutionized the industrial era, brought the manufacturing  production
age back into Fremont (Silicon Valley)...
The business articles that the JSS grounds are:
W-2 tax forms(two side-by-side);
Plastic/paper cards (credit, debit, and business cards); Paper cash money;
And, receipts (expense reports).
It was on July 7, 2014, where we stopped marketing the #MSS via
@ProMoneyImage...
The other mobile OCR apps that the J.Scanner Stand works with are:
PayPal, Evernote, Expensify, Money Reader.

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BreakDown SPECS NEW-UpComing 2014 Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone 6+ Apple iPhone 6)

2014-09-10 Thread Robin
What's the DIFFERENCE between the 2 NEW  UpComing 2014 Apple iPhones 
(i.e., Apple iPhone 6  Apple iPhone 6 +)???


I'm referrin' to the Specs and other noteWorthy Details. Why should 1 
be preferred over the other.


Also, what's the Retail (i.e., Original Sales Price) so 1 can 
possibly calculate the Monthly Rate under a MobileCarrier's Early 
UpGrade Program (i.e., VZW's Edge, ATT Next,  etc.)???


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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Actually, I've just tried and even when voiceover's off, Siri still
speaks and as others have said, whilst the watch does have a speaker,
Siri didnt talk during the keynote.
I won't be buying one as it's too expensive for me but it would be
nice to know regardless.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've never tried Siri without voiceover so didn't realize that. Even
 when my kids have played with it the Voice over was always on.

 On 9/10/14, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.  Probably
 just not turned on.

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
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 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

 I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it didn't
 talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.

 On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch
 and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me.
 It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations.
 We'll find out someday, I guess.

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, all,

 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description
 or information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be
 accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have
 Voiceover?

 Thanks,
 Teresa

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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Pablo,
As you well know, last year, there was no avoiding downloading the IOS 7. As
soon as you connected to WiFi, the IOS 7 downloaded to your phone. You
didn't have to install it but it was on your phone ready to do so. If Apple
still has the same policy with IOS 8, you well know what is waiting for you.

If this happens this year, which is quite likely, please don't re-start the
conversation on how much of your memory Apple is forcing you to give up.
That was discussed at length last year and didn't get anywhere.

Ron  Danvers
  

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

I have a question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8, even
though, I need to do a restore urgent. How can I reinstall IOs 7, and do not
download the IOs8?
Thanks
P

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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:40 AM
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Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

Yes, and it is really a bad idea to try and upgrade on the 17th as soon as
iOS 8 shows up as an update. All of you who tried to listen to the live
stream today, what was your experience? It was anything but good and
upgrading as part of the first rush will probably be the same and you are
asking for problems. I would wait at least 3 or 4 days if you want a smooth
and problem free experience and don't forget to make a backup before, then
force quit all apps and at least shut down your phone and restart it, even
better do a reset all network settings which will also reboot the phone,
then sign back in to your WiFi and then attempt the upgrade.
I guaranty next Wednesday there will be a lot of posts, many from people who
say the upgrade worked fine and a few who will have problems with the update
not completing or the device going silent and maybe not coming back. Another
really good idea is to do the upgrade via iTunes, you will get much more
feedback and won't have to deal with the unnerving situation of your phone
going silent for maybe an hour or more.

Regards,
SieghardI can only 

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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
criticizing Apple for such a bad update.

On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a 
 lot today so I could be mistaken.

 --
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 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
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 On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;

 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
 Anthony


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RE: BreakDown SPECS NEW-UpComing 2014 Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone 6+ Apple iPhone 6)

2014-09-10 Thread Cristóbal
That's nice that the 64GB model dropped in price, but still odd that they
would leave out the 32gb option. They're basically nudging folks to go for
the two larger models. But if that's the case, why even bother to continue
offering the 16gb version and just have the 32 gb option as the introductory
device? Those smaller phones are going to fill up fast like nobody's
business.
I guess there's a method to the madness.
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Subject: RE: BreakDown SPECS  NEW-UpComing 2014 Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone
6+  Apple iPhone 6)

Subsidised pricing in the US is as follows:

iPhone 5C 8 Gb - free on contract
iPhone 5S 16 Gb: $99 on contract
iPhone 6 comes in 16 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb: $199, $299 and $399, respectively
iPhone 6+ comes in the same storage sizes and prices are $100 more, so $299,
$399 and $499.

On the Today in iOS Podcast Rob mentioned unsubsidized pricing for the
iPhone 6 was unchanged from that of the 5S last year at $650 for the 16 Gb,
$750 for the 64 /Gb and $850 for the 128 Gb. The 6+ once again will be $100
more, so $750, $850 and $950 for the top of the line iPhone 6+ 128 Gb.

For the specs I refer you to the Apple Keynote or the latest episode of the
Today in iOS Podcast where Rob summarizes everything nicely.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: BreakDown SPECS  NEW-UpComing 2014 Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone 6+
 Apple iPhone 6)

What's the DIFFERENCE between the 2 NEW  UpComing 2014 Apple iPhones (i.e.,
Apple iPhone 6  Apple iPhone 6 +)???

I'm referrin' to the Specs and other noteWorthy Details. Why should 1 be
preferred over the other.

Also, what's the Retail (i.e., Original Sales Price) so 1 can possibly
calculate the Monthly Rate under a MobileCarrier's Early UpGrade Program
(i.e., VZW's Edge, ATT Next,  etc.)???

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RE: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I turned Voiceover off and asked SIRI about what movies were playing and it
also didn't talk without Voiceover on, but with Voiceover on it started
reading movie titles.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

That's what I thought but when I tried it earlier it didn't talk.

On 9/10/14, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 Actually, I've just tried and even when voiceover's off, Siri still
 speaks and as others have said, whilst the watch does have a speaker,
 Siri didnt talk during the keynote.
 I won't be buying one as it's too expensive for me but it would be
 nice to know regardless.

 Cheers,
 Ben.


 On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've never tried Siri without voiceover so didn't realize that. Even
 when my kids have played with it the Voice over was always on.

 On 9/10/14, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.
 Probably
 just not turned on.

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 Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

 I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it
 didn't
 talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.

 On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch
 and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me.
 It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations.
 We'll find out someday, I guess.

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, all,

 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description
 or information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be
 accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have
 Voiceover?

 Thanks,
 Teresa

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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I guess we will see, but I doubt this will change so most likely the iOS 8
update will download and sit there and since it's almost half a Gig larger
than the iOS 7 update it will take up even more space. I guess one way which
might be a work-around is to fill the phone up with music or whatever so
that you only have maybe 1 or 1.5 Gb of free space which is probably not
enough for the update to download.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

Hi Pablo,
As you well know, last year, there was no avoiding downloading the IOS 7. As
soon as you connected to WiFi, the IOS 7 downloaded to your phone. You
didn't have to install it but it was on your phone ready to do so. If Apple
still has the same policy with IOS 8, you well know what is waiting for you.

If this happens this year, which is quite likely, please don't re-start the
conversation on how much of your memory Apple is forcing you to give up.
That was discussed at length last year and didn't get anywhere.

Ron  Danvers
  

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Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

I have a question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8, even
though, I need to do a restore urgent. How can I reinstall IOs 7, and do not
download the IOs8?
Thanks
P

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

Yes, and it is really a bad idea to try and upgrade on the 17th as soon as
iOS 8 shows up as an update. All of you who tried to listen to the live
stream today, what was your experience? It was anything but good and
upgrading as part of the first rush will probably be the same and you are
asking for problems. I would wait at least 3 or 4 days if you want a smooth
and problem free experience and don't forget to make a backup before, then
force quit all apps and at least shut down your phone and restart it, even
better do a reset all network settings which will also reboot the phone,
then sign back in to your WiFi and then attempt the upgrade.
I guaranty next Wednesday there will be a lot of posts, many from people who
say the upgrade worked fine and a few who will have problems with the update
not completing or the device going silent and maybe not coming back. Another
really good idea is to do the upgrade via iTunes, you will get much more
feedback and won't have to deal with the unnerving situation of your phone
going silent for maybe an hour or more.

Regards,
SieghardI can only 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
criticizing Apple for such a bad update.

On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a 
 lot today so I could be mistaken.

 --
 Cheryl

 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;

 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
 Anthony


 Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Alan Paganelli
Nothing was said about battery life either.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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  From: Joseph 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?


  Hello,
  I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and 
nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not at 
all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out someday, 
I guess.


  On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:


Hi, all,


Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or 
information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I know 
it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?


Thanks,
Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
They very much implied that it could be used for a full day.

On 9/10/14, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Nothing was said about battery life either.


 Regards,

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   - Original Message -
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   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:39 PM
   Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?


   Hello,
   I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch and
 nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me. It's not
 at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations. We'll find out
 someday, I guess.


   On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:


 Hi, all,


 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description or
 information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be accessible. I
 know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have Voiceover?


 Thanks,
 Teresa

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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Alan Paganelli

Are you sure Pablo? LOL!  Your taking a huge risk here! LOL!


Regards,

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!


Oh, yes. I learned the lesson. Maybe for June 2015 IOs 8  will be with no
bugs, then I will install it in my phone.


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Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
criticizing Apple for such a bad update.

On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a
lot today so I could be mistaken.

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And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
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Hi Everyone;

Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
I thought today was the day.

Thanks
Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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Re: Any problems with the fingerprint scanner?

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
It works very well. Don't be scared of it.

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 Hello all,
 For those who have an iPhone 5, do you have any problems with the
 fingerprint scanner?
 I am not sure why, but I seen to have a phobia with this technology.
 I plan to buy an iPhone 6, and need a little reassurance.



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Re: Any problems with the fingerprint scanner?

2014-09-10 Thread Alex Hall
I don't, but my sister has had a 5S since May and she loves it. The fingerprint 
sensor is still working just fine, and I've used it a few times just because I 
could. You press the lock or home button to wake up the phone, hold a finger 
against the home button as though you were going to press it (but don't 
actually press it), and the phone unlocks. In the near future, offering your 
fingerprint will do a lot more - pay for items, authenticate in apps, and so 
on. It's a great bit of technology that works well, and there's nothing to fear 
from it. Make sure your hands are free of dust or moisture when you use it and 
you'll be just fine.
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 Hello all, 
 For those who have an iPhone 5, do you have any problems with the fingerprint 
 scanner? 
 I am not sure why, but I seen to have a phobia with this technology. 
 I plan to buy an iPhone 6, and need a little reassurance. 
 
 
 
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just a note to those who upgrade.

2014-09-10 Thread Fred Olver
Just remember that although the layout of the icons on the home screens may be 
similar the distance between the icons themselves may be different than on the 
current iPhones. Because the 6+ has a somewhat larger screen the icons may be 
further apart. As a result it may take some time to move as easily between 
icons as with the iPhone 4,4S, 5, 5C and 5S. 


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Re: Any problems with the fingerprint scanner?

2014-09-10 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, iOS7 lets you store up to five fingerprints. No word on whether iOS8 will 
expand that, but five is sufficient for one finger for a trusted person or two, 
then three or four fingers on your own hands.
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 Okay, that sounds great now I have another question. Can you store more than 
 one fingerprint? Sometimes Iopen my phone with my thumb sometimes I use my 
 forefinger. I'd also like my wife to be able to get into my phone.
 
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Re: Any problems with the fingerprint scanner?

2014-09-10 Thread Alan Paganelli
You can store up to 10 finger prints.  I use my index finger or my thumb on 
either hand and still have 6 more



Regards,

Alan

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Subject: Re: Any problems with the fingerprint scanner?


Okay, that sounds great now I have another question. Can you store more than 
one fingerprint? Sometimes Iopen my phone with my thumb sometimes I use my 
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Re: iTunes Library Transfer Question

2014-09-10 Thread Steve

Super, man, that did the trick.

Thanks a lot.  Although this is a high traffic list, it is hugely helpful.

Steve,
Lansing
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: iTunes Library Transfer Question


Hello Steve,

To select a specific iTunes Library, press a modifier key on the keyboard
when Clicking on the iTunes Desktop icon.  I think the correct key is the
Shift key.

Remember that the file you're looking for will have the extension of .itl.

Mark


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Subject: iTunes Library Transfer Question

Blank
Ok, I transferred my old data to a new Windows 7 computer. I then installed
iTunes today. But, I don't see my library, although it is under Music under
the folder with my user name.

Is there any way to transfer it to my new version of iTunes, or do I just
have to resort to backing up and synching my iPhone now?


If you think education is difficult, try being stupid !

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RE: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Will the width of the 6 and 6+ be the same as the 5's?

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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:20 AM
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Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

Greetings. I want to look at both of them to see how big 4.7 and 5.5 inches 
really is on a new phone, but I am leaning more towards the 6.
The 6 Plus seems a little too big for me and I don't really want to carry 
around a mini iPad that is alsoa  phone. In addition, the 6 is
$100 less, so its a win win.

Wayne

On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the 
 stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.

 On 9/10/14, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour 
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity 
 I don't have a lot of.


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 Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am 
 on no contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when 
 I get it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours 
 of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.

 Kawal.

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 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
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 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If 
 so, which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 
 6+ will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.

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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
They are all different widths. I provided them in a different message earlier.

On 9/10/14, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 Will the width of the 6 and 6+ be the same as the 5's?

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 Greetings. I want to look at both of them to see how big 4.7 and 5.5 inches
 really is on a new phone, but I am leaning more towards the 6.
 The 6 Plus seems a little too big for me and I don't really want to carry
 around a mini iPad that is alsoa  phone. In addition, the 6 is
 $100 less, so its a win win.

 Wayne

 On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the
 stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.

 On 9/10/14, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity
 I don't have a lot of.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am
 on no contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when
 I get it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours
 of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on
 it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou
 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If
 so, which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the
 6+ will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.

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RE: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi John,
Better pictures equal better OCR. As they said in the KNFB presentation, the
software was available way before now but the cameras weren't. the camera
improved with the 5S and there was a difference in the OCR so, I expect that
the even better camera will improve things again.

Ron  Danvers
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the
stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.

On 9/10/14, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour 
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity I 
 don't have a lot of.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am 
 on no contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get
it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours 
 of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou 
 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If 
 so, which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 
 6+ will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.

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RE: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Yes, but your Braille line system didn't help me, as I don't read Brille.

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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

They are all different widths. I provided them in a different message earlier.

On 9/10/14, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 Will the width of the 6 and 6+ be the same as the 5's?

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 Greetings. I want to look at both of them to see how big 4.7 and 5.5 
 inches really is on a new phone, but I am leaning more towards the 6.
 The 6 Plus seems a little too big for me and I don't really want to 
 carry around a mini iPad that is alsoa  phone. In addition, the 6 is
 $100 less, so its a win win.

 Wayne

 On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the 
 stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.

 On 9/10/14, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour 
 presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity 
 I don't have a lot of.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I 
 am on no contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report 
 when I get it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 
 hours of
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio 
 on it.

 Kawal.

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou 
 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If 
 so, which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of 
 the
 6+ will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.

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Re: New phone dimentions

2014-09-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I apologize the 5s is about 6.25, the 6 is about 7 wide and the 6+ is
about 8 lines wide.

On 9/10/14, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hey John,

 Are you saying that the 6 is longer but the same width as the 5S? That's
 what it sounds like
 In that case, I would say that the 6 is about 1 finger longer than the 5S
 and the same width and the 6+ would be about 2 fingers longer and a
 comfortable 1 finger wider. Of course, it depends on the finger.


 Ron  Danvers
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: New phone dimentions

 When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean much. I
 had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the three sizes
 of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I would try to put it
 in a way which some may understand better. So what I did was compare the
 sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I know that this won't help
 everyone but for those who work with braille, the  5s is 12.5 lines long
 and
 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7 lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8 lines
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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread Steve

No, the 6Plus is wider.
- Original Message - 
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: IPhone 6 vs 6+


Will the width of the 6 and 6+ be the same as the 5's?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

Greetings. I want to look at both of them to see how big 4.7 and 5.5 inches 
really is on a new phone, but I am leaning more towards the 6.
The 6 Plus seems a little too big for me and I don't really want to carry 
around a mini iPad that is alsoa  phone. In addition, the 6 is

$100 less, so its a win win.

Wayne

On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think the OCR will change. What interests me is whether the
stablization will let us take better pictures with the +.

On 9/10/14, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

Is there a way one can get a summary without listening to a two-hour
presentation, that is a huge amount of time, and time is a commodity
I don't have a lot of.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am
on no contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when
I get it.

Kawal.


On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours
of

audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.


Kawal.


On 10 Sep 2014, at 02:36 am, John Diakogeorgiou
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com

wrote:


I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If
so, which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the
6+ will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.

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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Flor Lynch
The two options in the Always setting are: Handfree Only; or, Always. there's 
nothing said about Voiceover. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Teresa Cochran 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?


  I remember seeing an option inSettings, general, Siri that indicated whether 
voice feedback was always active. I don't know if this relates to Voiceover o 
not.


  Teresa

  We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

  On Sep 10, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:


Actually, I've just tried and even when voiceover's off, Siri still
speaks and as others have said, whilst the watch does have a speaker,
Siri didnt talk during the keynote.
I won't be buying one as it's too expensive for me but it would be
nice to know regardless.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've never tried Siri without voiceover so didn't realize that. Even

  when my kids have played with it the Voice over was always on.



  On 9/10/14, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:

That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.  
Probably

just not turned on.



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I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it 
didn't

talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.



On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

  Hello,

  I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch

  and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me.

  It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations.

  We'll find out someday, I guess.



  On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:



Hi, all,



Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a 
description

or information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be

accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have

Voiceover?



Thanks,

Teresa



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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Alan Paganelli
I believe that if that is turned off that siri will still respond but it will 
only be in text not text and voice.  

HTH


Regards,

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Teresa Cochran 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?


  I remember seeing an option inSettings, general, Siri that indicated whether 
voice feedback was always active. I don't know if this relates to Voiceover o 
not.


  Teresa

  We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

  On Sep 10, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:


Actually, I've just tried and even when voiceover's off, Siri still
speaks and as others have said, whilst the watch does have a speaker,
Siri didnt talk during the keynote.
I won't be buying one as it's too expensive for me but it would be
nice to know regardless.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've never tried Siri without voiceover so didn't realize that. Even

  when my kids have played with it the Voice over was always on.



  On 9/10/14, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:

That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.  
Probably

just not turned on.



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I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it 
didn't

talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.



On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

  Hello,

  I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch

  and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me.

  It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations.

  We'll find out someday, I guess.



  On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:



Hi, all,



Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a 
description

or information or experience about whether Apple Watch will be

accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have

Voiceover?



Thanks,

Teresa



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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Christina C.
Safari crashes all of the time for me. I even went to apple store and they 
replaced my phone but the second phone was worse, than they replaced it again. 
The newest one still constantly crashes so it seems as though it is not a 
hardware problem after all. 

Christina
On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have never had either of these apps crash either. You may have had a
 hardware problem or else your upgrade to 7 from 6 was corrupt
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:27 AM
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 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen this
 crashing problem.
 
 Dan Beaver
 
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 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The 17th.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone;
 
 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.
 
 Thanks
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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Anthony Vece
Every day I clear my history and cookies.


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safari crashes all of the time for me. I even went to apple store and they 
 replaced my phone but the second phone was worse, than they replaced it 
 again. The newest one still constantly crashes so it seems as though it is 
 not a hardware problem after all. 
 
 Christina
 On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have never had either of these apps crash either. You may have had a
 hardware problem or else your upgrade to 7 from 6 was corrupt
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
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 Of Dan Beaver
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:27 AM
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 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen this
 crashing problem.
 
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 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The 17th.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone;
 
 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.
 
 Thanks
 Anthony
 
 
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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Dan Beaver
Hmmm,  does it matter the website you go to with Safari or does it crash on 
all sites?

Dan Beaver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

Safari crashes all of the time for me. I even went to apple store and they 
replaced my phone but the second phone was worse, than they replaced it 
again. The newest one still constantly crashes so it seems as though it is 
not a hardware problem after all.

Christina
On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca 
wrote:

 Hi,

 I have never had either of these apps crash either. You may have had a
 hardware problem or else your upgrade to 7 from 6 was corrupt

 Ron  Danvers


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 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen 
 this
 crashing problem.

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 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com 
 wrote:

 The 17th.  HTH.

 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

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 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
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Re: New phone dimentions

2014-09-10 Thread RobH.
An interesting slant on the rule of Thumb: but sounds a reasonable one.  If 
the aspect ratio (length over width) is the same, both would be longer And 
Wider than the 5S.
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Hey John,

Are you saying that the 6 is longer but the same width as the 5S? That's
what it sounds like
In that case, I would say that the 6 is about 1 finger longer than the 5S
and the same width and the 6+ would be about 2 fingers longer and a
comfortable 1 finger wider. Of course, it depends on the finger.


Ron  Danvers
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Subject: New phone dimentions

When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean much. I
had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the three sizes
of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I would try to put it
in a way which some may understand better. So what I did was compare the
sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I know that this won't help
everyone but for those who work with braille, the  5s is 12.5 lines long and
7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7 lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8 lines
wide.

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Installing IOS 8 over 7

2014-09-10 Thread Lee Jones
Dear List, when you install a whole new version of IOS are your settings and 
data preserved or do you have to start from scratch or from a back up.  .  Does 
it work like minor updates, where you just start the update, the phone restarts 
and then comes up talking when it's done?

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Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7

2014-09-10 Thread Alex Hall
If the past is any indication, you just install the update. Your settings and 
data stay put, and the only change is the new iOS version. Of course, you 
should always do a full backup before any update, just in case something goes 
wrong, but most times nothing bad happens. No one has yet updated to 
iOS8,obviously, but I see no reason it won't be like the last few major 
releases.
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 Does it work like minor updates, where you just start the update, the phone 
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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Gmail
Yes, I am. Turning the phone off and on again sometimes helps, or closing the 
apps and restarting them, but not always. It's really frustrating, and I'm not 
the only one having this problem, as friends of mine can also attest to having 
it.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen this 
 crashing problem.
 
 Dan Beaver
 
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 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail 
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The 17th.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone;
 
 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.
 
 Thanks
 Anthony
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s!
 
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Re: With unlocked 6 or 6 + phones, will carrier (CDMA versus GSM) be an issue?

2014-09-10 Thread Robin
I believe you can take a VZW Apple iPhone to a 
GSM Network, but as I understand it, you will not 
be able to utilize its LTE Network ONLY its GSM 
Network. Only on VZW will you be able to use both 
CDMA  LTE, this is because VZW has to have a GSM 
option for its VZW customers, who travel outside the U.S.



If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me because I'm 
not totally sure I am correct as it pertains to this query.


At 02:18 PM 9/10/2014, you wrote:

Hi,

I have not seen any model numbers listed with 
radio frequencies yet, but if I use the current 
iPhone 5s as a starting point, there may be two 
physically different phones, one for Sprint, and 
one for ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile. It very well 
may be the case that the new radio set supports 
all carriers in a single hardware handset.


That said, although the radio frequencies may 
work, Verizon's CDMA database will not support 
non Verizon iPhones. Thus, you cannot take an 
ATT iPhone and move it to Verizon. However, you 
can take a Verizon iPhone and move it to GSM carriers like ATT and T-Mobile.


So, the Verizon iPhone can be moved to three out 
of the four major carriers, and would be the best choice.


What I've said is valid on the 5s, but wait 
until the fine print is out on the 6 before making any decisions.

Cheers.
-k
Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely 
stops you from asking the questions.




On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Kramlinger, Keith 
G., M.D. mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edukramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:



Hi,

I'm coming off contract with Verizon and 
will  continue with them for a while, but hope 
to preserve my options of switching to a GSM carrier in the future.


If I get an unlocked 6 or 6+,will I have to 
worry about whether the phone is CDMA or GSM?


This issue has always confused me.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hmmm, I've never seen native apps constantly crashing either. Wonder what the 
deal is there?

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On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I am. Turning the phone off and on again sometimes helps, or closing the 
 apps and restarting them, but not always. It's really frustrating, and I'm 
 not the only one having this problem, as friends of mine can also attest to 
 having it.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 10, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen this 
 crashing problem.
 
 Dan Beaver
 
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 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail 
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The 17th.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone;
 
 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.
 
 Thanks
 Anthony
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s!
 
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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Alan Paganelli

Oh Pablo it can't be that bad can it? LOL!


Regards,

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- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!


Hmmm, maybe you are right.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:48 PM
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Are you sure Pablo? LOL!  Your taking a huge risk here! LOL!


Regards,

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- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!


Oh, yes. I learned the lesson. Maybe for June 2015 IOs 8  will be with no
bugs, then I will install it in my phone.


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Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs to
wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time
criticizing Apple for such a bad update.

On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard a
lot today so I could be mistaken.

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(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Everyone;

Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
I thought today was the day.

Thanks
Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Pablo Morales
No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone
5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is
because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok?
Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a
restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,,
start downloading the last update available.
But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7  in my
computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to do a
restore?
Thanks


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Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?

2014-09-10 Thread Les Kriegler
Joanne, you are correct. My wife has used Siri and I hear the results to come 
back. She is not a voiceover user.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As far as i know, Siri and Voiceover is completely different thing. Siri does 
 not rely on voiceover to work. In fact, lots of apple demo in the pass do 
 show that siri works without voiceover turn on. 
 
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
 Send from my iPad
 
 On 11 Sep 2014, at 5:45, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 I believe that if that is turned off that siri will still respond but it 
 will only be in text not text and voice. 
  
 HTH
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Alan
  
 Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
  
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
  
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 - Original Message -
 From: Teresa Cochran
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?
 
 I remember seeing an option inSettings, general, Siri that indicated whether 
 voice feedback was always active. I don't know if this relates to Voiceover 
 o not.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Sep 10, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 
 Actually, I've just tried and even when voiceover's off, Siri still
 speaks and as others have said, whilst the watch does have a speaker,
 Siri didnt talk during the keynote.
 I won't be buying one as it's too expensive for me but it would be
 nice to know regardless.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 
 On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've never tried Siri without voiceover so didn't realize that. Even
 when my kids have played with it the Voice over was always on.
 On 9/10/14, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's the normal way Siri works when Voice Over is turned off.  Probably
 just not turned on.
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:47 PM
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 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Apple Watch?
 I'm not sure if it means anything but when they were using Siri it didn't
 talk back to them but rather showed the answer on the screen.
 On 9/9/14, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I was just on apple.com and I read the more info regarding the watch
 and nothing was mentioned regarding VO. But that doesn't surprise me.
 It's not at all uncommon to not mention VoiceOver in presentations.
 We'll find out someday, I guess.
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 Hi, all,
 Lots of exciting stuff in the keynote. Has anyone found a description
 or information or experience about whether Apple Watch willbe
 accessible. I know it has Siri and haptic features, but does it have
 Voiceover?
 Thanks,
 Teresa
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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Juan Hernandez
You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone
doesn't get the iOS 8 update.

I am looking forward to iOS 8.  I can't wait to use the hand off features
and apple pay.

Best,


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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM
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 Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
 
 No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone
 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it
is
 because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok?
 Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a
 restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,,
 start downloading the last update available.
 But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7  in my
 computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to
 do a
 restore?
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Kliphton
Well, they have a lot of tweeting to do before nex Wednesday.  I can't say 
because of the DNA, but there are some serious accessibility issues.  My 
contact info is always in my signiture, so if you really want to know, iMessage 
me.  As for apple pay, that will only be avialible if you get the iPhone 6 or 
6Plus.
Kliphton

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 On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone
 doesn't get the iOS 8 update.
 
 I am looking forward to iOS 8.  I can't wait to use the hand off features
 and apple pay.
 
 Best,
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
 
 No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone
 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it
 is
 because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok?
 Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a
 restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,,
 start downloading the last update available.
 But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7  in my
 computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to
 do a
 restore?
 Thanks
 
 
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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi again,

Have you considered checking your WiFi connection? That could be a problem.
I once had a problem when a close neighbor was on the same channel as my
modem and when he got on, he crashed mine. That's something worth checking.
It may not be your phone or its software at all.

Ron  Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christina C.
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

Safari crashes all of the time for me. I even went to apple store and they
replaced my phone but the second phone was worse, than they replaced it
again. The newest one still constantly crashes so it seems as though it is
not a hardware problem after all. 

Christina
On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have never had either of these apps crash either. You may have had a 
 hardware problem or else your upgrade to 7 from 6 was corrupt
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Dan Beaver
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:27 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen 
 this crashing problem.
 
 Dan Beaver
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!
 
 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail 
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com
wrote:
 
 The 17th.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone;
 
 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.
 
 Thanks
 Anthony
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s!
 
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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Ron Pelletier
Dan,

I'd bet my bottom dollar that, if its random, the problem is in the WiFi
connection.  The only way I could fix mine was to call my provider and have
them remotely put me on another channel which is less common. I'm not sure
because it was over a year ago but I think the common one is channel 4 and
they switched me to channel 1, I believe, or something like that.

Ron  Danvers
  

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Of Dan Beaver
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Hmmm,  does it matter the website you go to with Safari or does it crash on
all sites?

Dan Beaver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

Safari crashes all of the time for me. I even went to apple store and they
replaced my phone but the second phone was worse, than they replaced it
again. The newest one still constantly crashes so it seems as though it is
not a hardware problem after all.

Christina
On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
wrote:

 Hi,

 I have never had either of these apps crash either. You may have had a 
 hardware problem or else your upgrade to 7 from 6 was corrupt

 Ron  Danvers


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 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

 If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen 
 this crashing problem.

 Dan Beaver

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

 I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail 
 crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 The 17th.  HTH.

 Matthew
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;

 Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
 I thought today was the day.

 Thanks
 Anthony


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RE: Installing IOS 8 over 7

2014-09-10 Thread Ron Pelletier
Jane,

 

If we go with the past,chances are that you won't be able to downgrade
unless Apple offers that possibility but, its not a guarantee they will.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jane
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7

 

How do you save an earlier version? I mean, the version I am currently
running? What if I need to downgrade?

 

Jane

 

 

 

 

On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:





If the past is any indication, you just install the update. Your settings
and data stay put, and the only change is the new iOS version. Of course,
you should always do a full backup before any update, just in case something
goes wrong, but most times nothing bad happens. No one has yet updated to
iOS8,obviously, but I see no reason it won't be like the last few major
releases.

On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote:





Dear List, when you install a whole new version of IOS are your settings and
data preserved or do you have to start from scratch or from a back up.  .
Does it work like minor updates, where you just start the update, the phone
restarts and then comes up talking when it's done?

Many Thanks, Lee 

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RE: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Juan,

You'd better have the budget to upgrade your phone to the iPhone 6 because
the Apple Pay will need that close proximity chip that we don't have up
until now

Ron  Danvers


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Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS8!!!

You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone
doesn't get the iOS 8 update.

I am looking forward to iOS 8.  I can't wait to use the hand off features
and apple pay.

Best,


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 Behalf Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: IOS8!!!
 
 No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my 
 iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt 
 feelings here, it
is
 because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok?
 Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a 
 restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes 
 automatically,, start downloading the last update available.
 But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7  in my 
 computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to 
 do a restore?
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: accessing the presentation

2014-09-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
I downloaded the 1.3 Gb video file of the presentation and converted
it to a 128 k MP3 audio file for convenient listening on the iPhone,
BookPort or Stream.  It can be downloaded directly from my OneDrive
space at:

http://tinyurl.com/oa74zet


enjoy.  It is a compelling two hours of listening.

Kelly



On 9/10/14, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 Hi,

 The direct URL for the keynote is
 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14pijnadfpvkjnfvpijhabdfvpijbadfv09/vod/14oijhbaefvohi9_1_650_vod.mov
 - the file is around 2.8GB.
 You should be able to download this file  play it in your media
 player of choice.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 9/10/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 If they are replaying the whole thing it's two hours.

 On 9/10/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 How long is it?

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Sep 2014, at 06:03, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 For anybody who went to the website and still couldn't get the whole
 presentation even after the live presentation was over, now I am finding
 that if I go to apple.com it reliably loads the presentation and then
 starts
 from the beginning. Note that when you go to apple.com there will be
 first
 some seconds of silence and then a fairly long period of instrumental
 playing (with video of course but I can't see that) and then the actual
 presentation starts. I had been mostly able to listen to the
 presentation
 live with some restarting and language overlay adventures, and then I
 saw
 that it seemed they did an actual replay but later when I went to the
 site
 I
 had only seen various short excerpts that might be played. But now it is
 definitely up and playing. I quit safari and started again just to make
 sure
 it really was loading the presentation reliably at the beginning.

 --
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
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Re: apple streaming live

2014-09-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
I converted the September 9 keynote to an MP3 file. the entire
presentation can be downloaded  in audio from my space on OneDrive at:

http://tinyurl.com/oa74zet

I listened to most of it on the subway to and from work today.  It is
interesting infotainment, like hearing the audio of the oral arguments
of an important case at the Supreme Court of the United States.

Kelly



On 9/10/14, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 AppleVis has a good recap of what was talked about here:
 http://applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements

 Hth,
 Wayne

 On 9/9/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Rose and others,

 You can subscribe to the Apple Keynotes Podcast and you will always get
 Apple events mostly the day after they happen.

 If somebody wants a good summary of what was said, I once again can only
 recommend the Today in iOS podcast.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Rose Combs
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: apple streaming live

 I don't have Apple TV but I still what the highlights, a few of us really
 had to work today.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Fred Olver
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: apple streaming live

 Supposedly it will be repeated on Apple TV soon.

 Fred Olver
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald Moore don.moor...@comcast.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:49 PM
 Subject: RE: apple streaming live


 So, is there a place to download or watch or listen to the program?



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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: apple streaming live

 I was forced to give up. In the first 20-30 minutes there was chineese or
 japaneese speech together with the english, it is rather disturbing when
 english is not your main language. I am really disappointed. I had to
 refresh the stream so many times

 Best regards Annie.
 Den 09/09/2014 kl. 20.43 skrev Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com:

 I think you have to keep in mind the sheer volume of people trying to
 tune
 into this thing. I imagine the audience of people trying to access these
 events live has grown. I had to reload a few times but it was worth it
 and
 traffic may have gone down once the phones were shown or at least I
 didn't
 have as much trouble after that.

 --
 Cheryl

 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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 I don't know about others, but I think apple did a very poor job
 streaming this event. I hope the podcast is made available soon!

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Re: apple streaming live

2014-09-10 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

do I have to sign in to my one drive account to grab this?


On 9/10/2014 7:43 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

I converted the September 9 keynote to an MP3 file. the entire
presentation can be downloaded  in audio from my space on OneDrive at:

http://tinyurl.com/oa74zet

I listened to most of it on the subway to and from work today.  It is
interesting infotainment, like hearing the audio of the oral arguments
of an important case at the Supreme Court of the United States.

Kelly



On 9/10/14, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

AppleVis has a good recap of what was talked about here:
http://applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements

Hth,
Wayne

On 9/9/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Rose and others,

You can subscribe to the Apple Keynotes Podcast and you will always get
Apple events mostly the day after they happen.

If somebody wants a good summary of what was said, I once again can only
recommend the Today in iOS podcast.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple streaming live

I don't have Apple TV but I still what the highlights, a few of us really
had to work today.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple streaming live

Supposedly it will be repeated on Apple TV soon.

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Donald Moore don.moor...@comcast.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: apple streaming live


So, is there a place to download or watch or listen to the program?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple streaming live

I was forced to give up. In the first 20-30 minutes there was chineese or
japaneese speech together with the english, it is rather disturbing when
english is not your main language. I am really disappointed. I had to
refresh the stream so many times

Best regards Annie.
Den 09/09/2014 kl. 20.43 skrev Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com:


I think you have to keep in mind the sheer volume of people trying to
tune

into this thing. I imagine the audience of people trying to access these
events live has grown. I had to reload a few times but it was worth it
and
traffic may have gone down once the phones were shown or at least I
didn't
have as much trouble after that.

--
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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I don't know about others, but I think apple did a very poor job

streaming this event. I hope the podcast is made available soon!

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Re: IOS8!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
I have never had a problem with mail or Safari crashing.  I've had 
situations where I'll try to launch an app and get kicked back out to the 
home screen, but never a hard lockup where my only recourse was to power 
down the phone and restart.


Tom

- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!


Hmmm, I've never seen native apps constantly crashing either. Wonder what 
the deal is there?


--
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I am. Turning the phone off and on again sometimes helps, or closing 
the apps and restarting them, but not always. It's really frustrating, and 
I'm not the only one having this problem, as friends of mine can also 
attest to having it.



Thanks,
Ari


On Sep 10, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote:

If you are talking about the native apps in IOS 7... I have never seen 
this

crashing problem.

Dan Beaver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS8!!!

I really hope that the problem of native apps such as Safari and Mail
crashing constantly is fixed in some iteration of iOS 8.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com 
wrote:


The 17th.  HTH.

Matthew

On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Everyone;

Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available?
I thought today was the day.

Thanks
Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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Re: IPhone 6 vs 6+

2014-09-10 Thread David Chittenden
The iPhone 6 only have digital image stabilisation. The iPhone 6+ has physical 
image stabilisation. Physical stabilisation is significantly better than 
digital image stabilisation. This is because, physical image stabilisation 
affects the picture before it is taken. Digital image stabilisation only 
affects the image after the picture has been taken. In other words, physical 
stabilisation will help to correct against any jitter which causes image 
blurring  when the camera is slightly moved while the picture is being taken.

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Sent from my iPhone

 On 11 Sep 2014, at 9:17, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When I upgrade, I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for the 64 gig iPhone six. 
 The plus would be more expensive, and not really worth it to me. In my 
 opinion, if the 5S camera does great with scans from the KNFB Reader app, the 
 six should perform well as well. I honestly don't think that the 6+ camera 
 will do terribly better than the 6's.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari.
 
 On Sep 10, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'll be ordering it on the 12? from the Apple Store in the UK as I am on no 
 contract. I normally buy them out right. So I will report when I get it.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:46 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am getting the I phone 6 plus due to more battery life as 80 hours of 
 audio play back is just right for me as I listen to a lot of audio on it.
 
 Kawal.
 
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 I'm curious if people are planning to purchase the new phones? If so,
 which size and why? I am thinking that the stabilization of the 6+
 will potentially help us with attempting to scan documents for OCR.
 
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