Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
I'm looking forward to the book for sure. Pre-ordered it as soon as it was announced. Looking forward to iOS 8 as well and I agree with you in that you'll all like it despite any major bugs or consequences found but at least there are workarounds! Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 05:51, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes out. Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday, September 17 with subject The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with Voiceover.
Re: rumor?, or truth
Let's see shall we? Only one more day to go smile! Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 15/09/2014 23:42, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm also assuming Alex will work with iPad mini retina and iPad Air. I believe they have the 64-bit chip. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, Alex is in iOS 8 for the 5S, 6 and 6 Plus. Apparently Alex requires the 64 Bit processor to run properly. It is also an almost 900 Mb download. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:30 AM To: visually impaired phone group Subject: rumor?, or truth I have heard that Alex, a very good sounding voice for users of Macs, will be available with IOS 8 for the iPhone, but only to users of the iPhone 5S and above. If there are any beta testers, or if someone knows for sure, rather than just thinking that this is so, I'd like to know if this is true or not. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iPad only apps and iPhone only apps
It is and this applies to my iPad Mini as well. When I first got it this confused me to heck until I tried the button and could change it to iPhone apps. I just love how universal the iPad is. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 15/09/2014 23:44, Michelle Bernstein wrote: I do not know if this applies to any other device besides the type that I own which is the iPad Air. If you search in the App Store, you may need to change the setting on the upper left side of the screen from iPad only to iPhone only in order to locate certain apps. I was having difficulty locating the nfb-Newsline and the looktel voiceover tutorial apps until I changed the setting from iPad only to iPhone only. This also applied to my search for the access world app that I did today. Hope this is of some help. Michelle Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Recommended cable
Hi Christopher, could you please post the direct link to that cable on Amazon or give me the ASIN number? My original cable of the iPhone 5 is nearly unusable anymore and I'd like to get something more durable for the replacement. Kind regards, Barbara Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 15.09.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com: Hi, The fact that it works doesn't mean that it is Apple certified although obviously it doesn't mean that it isn't. If you want to buy iDevice cables, look for ones that are MFi certified. These cables will be noticeabley cheaper than the ones that Apple sell but they will in basic terms be Apple certified so should be pretty reliable. Cheers, Ben. On 9/15/14, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a 30 pin connector cable that my wife bought for me at the $.99 store. It's one of those cables that you pull on the ends to make the cable longer or shorter. I got it when I got my iPhone 4 brand new so that should give you an idea of how old it is. It serves me well. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:13 AM Subject: Recommended cable Hi all I received in the mail this morning a lightning to USB cable made by none other than Amazon Basics for just £11 compared to £25 from Apple if you buy their own cable. The Amazon Basics cable appears to be more durable, the wire thicker and definitely less slimsy, it also feels good quality overall despite the price. Ordered it from no other than www.amazon.co.uk but your local Amazon should also sell them. I was so pleased with the purchase that i soon ordered their 30 pin to USB cable as I do still have a device with this connection. This cable cost only £5 compared to £15 from Apple if you buy their own cable. Will report back. -- Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
RE: Sonos
Hi robin, Yes, a Table Index in general would be nice. If I pull up my music library and select artist or album and I have hundreds of entries it would be nice to quickly get into the alphabet by using a table index. I can turn the rotor to heading at this point and flick down similar to the table index to go from A to B to C and so on, but it's quite sluggish and slow to do this and I can't double tap and hold and then drag down to move quickly as I can do in a table index.. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Hi, I completely concur. another thing I fervently wish for is the ability in the my radio stations section of the iOS app to have a power scroll feature so one could move letter by letter instead of having to scroll through all saved stations. I know one can search for them too but this would be nice. If it's there I sure haven't found the ability to access it with VoiceOver. Robin -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos Interesting, I did check the Queue button and did not see these options. I'll have to take another look. One thing that still bugs me a bit in the iOS app is that sometimes it seems you can't swipe through all the options on the screen. For example, I would open the queue and touch somewhere in the middle which would land me on the track list. I then swipe left and I might get to the first song in the queue, but then it won't go further into the options you mentioned, Repeat, Shuffle, Close Queue etc. The funny thing is that sometimes it does work, but other times it doesn't. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Awesome thanks I thought that button did the same as on the pc. John Diakogeorgiou On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: John, The shuffle feature is indeed accessible using the iOS App controller, launch the App, at the bottom right of the display find the queue button, double tap this. At the top of the screen, there are three options that are relevant, shuffle, repeat and close, all relating to the queue. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 14 Sep 2014, at 23:11, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you who use the Sonos App is their a way to turn on the shuffle feature from within the app? Also, they are saying that we don't need a bridge anymore has any one tried taking off the bridge? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone
RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Options: To UpDate OR Not - Apple iPhone 6+/6
Hi David, I assumed maybe it was size constraint as well, but just the thickness? Really? The 6 is 6.9 and the 6 Plus 7.1 mm, that is only a 0.2 mm difference and I find it hard to believe that this would make the difference. Just as a comparison, the average human finger nail is 0.3 to 0.5 mm thick, so the difference between a 6 and a 6 Plus is less than the thickness of a finger nail. Another way to describe it, the difference is probably no more or maybe even less than how much the power button on my 5S sticks out from the frame of the phone. I would hazard a guess and say that it is quite possible Apple did not put physical image stabilization into the 6 just because they didn’t feel like it and so they have something they can add to their 4.7 inch phone next year. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Options: To UpDate OR Not - Apple iPhone 6+/6 Windows Mobile is not accessible. This leaves lots of room to take shots at windows mobile when one requires accessibility. Do to the thinness of the phone, Apple was unable to implement physical image stabilisation into the iPhone 6. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 16 Sep 2014, at 7:08, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote: There as far as I'm concerned no reason why Apple couldn't also have this feature (object photo stabilization) as part of both iPhones. Size doesn't matter. I know this feature is prominetly found on most Nokia lumia MobilePhones, which operate on Microsoft's WP (WindowsPhone) soon to be referred to as simply Windows. Just sayin' No Need to Take SHOTS at microsoft, but I presume some WILL as that's all they KNOW (Why must people, who support 1 SMARTPhone and/or MobilePhone PlatForm constantly put down others (i.e., Google's Android Microsoft's Windows) I SUPPORT All mobilePhone PlatForms (i.e., Apple's iOS, Microsoft's Windows, Google's Android) At 10:59 AM 9/15/2014, you wrote: Hi Robin, Different strokes for different folks. I don’t see any problem with Apple offering a 6 Plus which is larger and maybe has slightly improved features over the 6, after all, if you buy a car or other products you have a huge choice of various models and you just buy the one you like and can afford. In any case, unless I am mistaken one of the only differences between the 6 and 6 Plus apart from the size is the fact that the 6 Plus has optical image stabilization. Why is this not in the 6? I have no idea, maybe it didn’t fit into the smaller and slightly thinner case, maybe it’s not there because Apple simply decided to put it only in their larger phone. Similarly, last year they offered the iPhone 5S with the A7 processor and they offered the cheaper 5C with a plastic case and only the A6 processor. Could they have put an A7 into the 5C? Sure they could have and maybe even for the same price, but they didn’t do so for their own reasons of marketing or whatever. That is just what companies do. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Options: To UpDate OR Not - Apple iPhone 6+/6 Why NOT offer the same specs on both models of the ForthComing/UpComing Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone 6+ Apple iPhone 6) with quite possibly the exception of whatever measures are required to simulate equivalent Battery Life-Performance on both of them? To add unique features to one,and exclude the other, gives 1 an advantage over the other even if it is larger, in my opinion. Just Sayin' At 06:11 AM 9/15/2014, you wrote: I don't see the iPhones getting bigger than that of the iPhone 6 in the future. With the iPhone 6 size, I believe Apple kept up to the competition since the average phones seem to be that size. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v http://Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote: What options do you have? If you plan to stay In the Garden of Apple's iOS, I don't forsee Apple offering various models of its Apple iPhone only being distinguished by its size alone. If you don't believe me, take a look at the specs for the upcoming Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone 6+ Apple iPhone 6). I think Apple should offer iPhones like this to determine which size is most desirable rather than forcing people, who
RE: New phone dimentions
Hi Ricardo, I guess you Americans don't get the metric system, eh? *smile* You forgot the decimal point unless the 6 really is 69 mm thick which would be 2.71 inches. Talk about a brick *smile*. It is 6.9 mm which is just over a quarter of an inch. The 6 Plus at 7.1 mm is still just over a quarter of an inch, just a bit more over a quarter than the 6. In terms of inches the exact values are 2.716 and 2.795 inches. That is a difference of barely 0.0079 inches. In millimeters it's 0.2 mm which is less than the thickness of an average finger nail. Regards, Sieghard Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:08 PM To: viphone Subject: Re: New phone dimentions Hello, no. the iPhone 6 is the thinnest iPhone ever made. it's 69mm thick while the 6+ is 71. But both are thinner than the 5S. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:55 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly the 6 is thinner than the 5s and the 6+ is even thinner than the 6. On 9/15/14, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What we fail to mention is the thickness of the phone. From my understanding, the 6 and 6+ should be thinner and perhaps litter than the 5 or 5s? On 16/09/2014, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I was comparing it to lines of braille. I've posted the dimentions already as have a few others. On 9/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: What do you mean by lines? In inches, what are the dimensions of the new phones compared, let's say, to an iPhone 5? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: Re: New phone dimentions I apologize the 5s is about 6.25, the 6 is about 7 wide and the 6+ is about 8 lines wide. On 9/10/14, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hey John, Are you saying that the 6 is longer but the same width as the 5S? That's what it sounds like In that case, I would say that the 6 is about 1 finger longer than the 5S and the same width and the 6+ would be about 2 fingers longer and a comfortable 1 finger wider. Of course, it depends on the finger. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: New phone dimentions When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean much. I had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the three sizes of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I would try to put it in a way which some may understand better. So what I did was compare the sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I know that this won't help everyone but for those who work with braille, the 5s is 12.5 lines long and 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7 lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8 lines wide. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: my iphone 4ws
Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok? Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,, start downloading the last update available. But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7 in my computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to do a restore? Thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
Re: the sound of the new phones?
Funny you mention the vibration, Mrs tells me Your phone is going!, it is upstairs and we aren't; she hears the rumble through the bedroom floor the cabinet is on, that the phone is on. Rh. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: Re: the sound of the new phones? Also, if you have any of them on the right surface, you will hear the vibration go off pretty well, at least with a 4S. I would think the sound would be the same if not better than what a 4S had. - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:15 PM Subject: RE: the sound of the new phones? Wow, my phone drives me out of the room and it's only at 70%. I think the ring tone you select makes a difference. Some of them seem not to be very loud. I have mine set to the classic phone ring, like a land line phone. I know. How boring, but it sure works. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:08 PM To: visually impaired phone group Subject: the sound of the new phones? I have heard people say that one of their major complaints about the current iPhone models is that the ringer volume, even when set at 100 percent, is too low. I personally don't find this to be true. I don't recall anything mentioned about increased sound capabilities of the iPhone 6 or 6 plus. Does anyone know of increased ringer volume and or improved sound in the new models? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: New phone dimentions
Mobile phones were that big,... once, and bigger; an Ad from the 70s showed a buy with a solid brief case with a conventional big handset on top; I think it was £3 a minute or something on those, very high end business tool if you could justify it. R. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: RE: New phone dimentions Hi Ricardo, I guess you Americans don't get the metric system, eh? *smile* You forgot the decimal point unless the 6 really is 69 mm thick which would be 2.71 inches. Talk about a brick *smile*. It is 6.9 mm which is just over a quarter of an inch. The 6 Plus at 7.1 mm is still just over a quarter of an inch, just a bit more over a quarter than the 6. In terms of inches the exact values are 2.716 and 2.795 inches. That is a difference of barely 0.0079 inches. In millimeters it's 0.2 mm which is less than the thickness of an average finger nail. Regards, Sieghard Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:08 PM To: viphone Subject: Re: New phone dimentions Hello, no. the iPhone 6 is the thinnest iPhone ever made. it's 69mm thick while the 6+ is 71. But both are thinner than the 5S. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:55 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly the 6 is thinner than the 5s and the 6+ is even thinner than the 6. On 9/15/14, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What we fail to mention is the thickness of the phone. From my understanding, the 6 and 6+ should be thinner and perhaps litter than the 5 or 5s? On 16/09/2014, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I was comparing it to lines of braille. I've posted the dimentions already as have a few others. On 9/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: What do you mean by lines? In inches, what are the dimensions of the new phones compared, let's say, to an iPhone 5? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: Re: New phone dimentions I apologize the 5s is about 6.25, the 6 is about 7 wide and the 6+ is about 8 lines wide. On 9/10/14, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hey John, Are you saying that the 6 is longer but the same width as the 5S? That's what it sounds like In that case, I would say that the 6 is about 1 finger longer than the 5S and the same width and the 6+ would be about 2 fingers longer and a comfortable 1 finger wider. Of course, it depends on the finger. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: New phone dimentions When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean much. I had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the three sizes of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I would try to put it in a way which some may understand better. So what I did was compare the sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I know that this won't help everyone but for those who work with braille, the 5s is 12.5 lines long and 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7 lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8 lines wide. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list
Re: New phone dimentions
Most Androy phone these days comes with 5 to 6 screen. iPhone6+ with a 5.5 screen is not really, that special if you put side by side with an androy phone. However, how thin and lite the phone can be, is definitely interesting to watch for. And, as far as i know, only blind people that have problem with the big screen phone. Most sighted people like it. On 16/09/2014, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: Mobile phones were that big,... once, and bigger; an Ad from the 70s showed a buy with a solid brief case with a conventional big handset on top; I think it was £3 a minute or something on those, very high end business tool if you could justify it. R. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: RE: New phone dimentions Hi Ricardo, I guess you Americans don't get the metric system, eh? *smile* You forgot the decimal point unless the 6 really is 69 mm thick which would be 2.71 inches. Talk about a brick *smile*. It is 6.9 mm which is just over a quarter of an inch. The 6 Plus at 7.1 mm is still just over a quarter of an inch, just a bit more over a quarter than the 6. In terms of inches the exact values are 2.716 and 2.795 inches. That is a difference of barely 0.0079 inches. In millimeters it's 0.2 mm which is less than the thickness of an average finger nail. Regards, Sieghard Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:08 PM To: viphone Subject: Re: New phone dimentions Hello, no. the iPhone 6 is the thinnest iPhone ever made. it's 69mm thick while the 6+ is 71. But both are thinner than the 5S. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:55 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly the 6 is thinner than the 5s and the 6+ is even thinner than the 6. On 9/15/14, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What we fail to mention is the thickness of the phone. From my understanding, the 6 and 6+ should be thinner and perhaps litter than the 5 or 5s? On 16/09/2014, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I was comparing it to lines of braille. I've posted the dimentions already as have a few others. On 9/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: What do you mean by lines? In inches, what are the dimensions of the new phones compared, let's say, to an iPhone 5? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: Re: New phone dimentions I apologize the 5s is about 6.25, the 6 is about 7 wide and the 6+ is about 8 lines wide. On 9/10/14, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hey John, Are you saying that the 6 is longer but the same width as the 5S? That's what it sounds like In that case, I would say that the 6 is about 1 finger longer than the 5S and the same width and the 6+ would be about 2 fingers longer and a comfortable 1 finger wider. Of course, it depends on the finger. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: New phone dimentions When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean much. I had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the three sizes of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I would try to put it in a way which some may understand better. So what I did was compare the sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I know that this won't help everyone but for those who work with braille, the 5s is 12.5 lines long and 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7 lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8 lines wide. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Jonathan, that's really nice of you! I'm super excited to read your book and find out all about iOS 8! Can't wait for release day! Thanks, Ari On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes out. Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday, September 17 with subject The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with Voiceover. What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not
Re: my iphone 4ws
Yes, I'm a 4S user. I got mine in January of 2013, so I may wait till this upcoming January to update. Or maybe not. I'm on a family plan, and if everyone doesn't mind me grabbing the update, I will. Thanks, Ari On Sep 11, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Stephen G. Hughes stephengahug...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok? Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,, start downloading the last update available. But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7 in my computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to do a restore? Thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone
Re: Possible solution for backing up BARD Mobile content to a Windows computer for syncing to an iOS device.
I haven't check this program out as of yet, but plan to. Have you tried routing the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and navigating that way? I also have NVDA, so I'll see how it works with that, as well. Maybe things will be better. Thanks, Ari On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yes, please tell us how you navigate IFunBox. I also don't succeed with it. I had an older version of iFunBox which was a little better, and JFW could read the menus in a sense, but I can't get the latest one to work. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon C. Pierson Sent: 16 September 2014 06:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Possible solution for backing up BARD Mobile content to a Windows computer for syncing to an iOS device. Hi, I installed this program on Win7 with the latest JFW but find it totally inaccessible with no menu or right-click options. Maybe the mac version (if there is one) will be more friendly. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:42 PM To: VIPhone Email List Subject: Possible solution for backing up BARD Mobile content to a Windows computer for syncing to an iOS device. The program is called iFunbox and works on a Windows computer. I'm not sure if there's a Mac version, though. I plan to check this out. I have a few BARD books on my iPhone, with lots of bookmarks, and I'd hate to lose them. I've been hearing contradictory information as to whether BARD books/bookmarks are backed up, even with an encripted backup, so I wanted to give this a shot. It doesn't require jailbreaking, at least not for most things, as far as I've been able to gather. Thanks, Ari -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Will ios 8 work with the 4s? From: Gmail Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Jonathan, that's really nice of you! I'm super excited to read your book and find out all about iOS 8! Can't wait for release day! Thanks, Ari On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Yes John Diakogeorgiou On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe alapoint...@comcast.net wrote: Will ios 8 work with the 4s? From: Gmail Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Jonathan, that's really nice of you! I'm super excited to read your book and find out all about iOS 8! Can't wait for release day! Thanks, Ari On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so
Re: Mail questions
I'm not sure what you mean by the bulk mail folder. If you're talking about the Junk folder, you can double tap on the edit button at the top of the screen and then the mark all button at the bottom of the resulting screen. I think there are keyboard commands for waht you want to do. Check out http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html On 09/15/2014 09:31 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote: When reading mail in the native app, is there a mechanism for deleting all messages in the bulk mail folder at once rather than doing so individually? The second question is this: I've been using gestures to read and delete email messages. If I were to use my Amazon Basics keyboard, are there specific commands to go to the top or bottom of a message? Thanks. Don Roberts -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Yes. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 11:27, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote: Will ios 8 work with the 4s? From: Gmail Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Jonathan, that's really nice of you! I'm super excited to read your book and find out all about iOS 8! Can't wait for release day! Thanks, Ari On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided
Re: my iphone 4ws
Yes, I got mine just a few months ago, and I'm still trying to learn how to use it. Rena - Original Message - From: Stephen G. Hughes stephengahug...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:30 PM Subject: my iphone 4ws Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok? Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,, start downloading the last update available. But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7 in my computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to do a restore? Thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: Recommended cable
Ok here is the ASIN B00FA4Y66U And now the direct URL to the product http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FA4Y66U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 07:52, Dionesque wrote: Hi Christopher, could you please post the direct link to that cable on Amazon or give me the ASIN number? My original cable of the iPhone 5 is nearly unusable anymore and I'd like to get something more durable for the replacement. Kind regards, Barbara Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 15.09.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com: Hi, The fact that it works doesn't mean that it is Apple certified although obviously it doesn't mean that it isn't. If you want to buy iDevice cables, look for ones that are MFi certified. These cables will be noticeabley cheaper than the ones that Apple sell but they will in basic terms be Apple certified so should be pretty reliable. Cheers, Ben. On 9/15/14, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a 30 pin connector cable that my wife bought for me at the $.99 store. It's one of those cables that you pull on the ends to make the cable longer or shorter. I got it when I got my iPhone 4 brand new so that should give you an idea of how old it is. It serves me well. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:13 AM Subject: Recommended cable Hi all I received in the mail this morning a lightning to USB cable made by none other than Amazon Basics for just £11 compared to £25 from Apple if you buy their own cable. The Amazon Basics cable appears to be more durable, the wire thicker and definitely less slimsy, it also feels good quality overall despite the price. Ordered it from no other than www.amazon.co.uk but your local Amazon should also sell them. I was so pleased with the purchase that i soon ordered their 30 pin to USB cable as I do still have a device with this connection. This cable cost only £5 compared to £15 from Apple if you buy their own cable. Will report back. -- Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe
Re: Mail questions
Unfortunately, the mark all feature only lets to flag emails or mark them as read or unread. Thanks, Ari On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by the bulk mail folder. If you're talking about the Junk folder, you can double tap on the edit button at the top of the screen and then the mark all button at the bottom of the resulting screen. I think there are keyboard commands for waht you want to do. Check out http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html On 09/15/2014 09:31 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote: When reading mail in the native app, is there a mechanism for deleting all messages in the bulk mail folder at once rather than doing so individually? The second question is this: I've been using gestures to read and delete email messages. If I were to use my Amazon Basics keyboard, are there specific commands to go to the top or bottom of a message? Thanks. Don Roberts -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
Why would Apple release a removal tool if the offer's going to be removed on or around the ninth of October, anyway? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:51 AM Subject: RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: Sonos
Hi, I'm so glad it isn't just me. I tweeted at support about this and thinking it a worthy idea they created a forum page for people to request it. I'll put the link they sent here in case anyone else is interested in requesting it as well. http://bit.ly/1nva6SJ Happy Sonos listening and iOS controlling. Robin -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos Hi robin, Yes, a Table Index in general would be nice. If I pull up my music library and select artist or album and I have hundreds of entries it would be nice to quickly get into the alphabet by using a table index. I can turn the rotor to heading at this point and flick down similar to the table index to go from A to B to C and so on, but it's quite sluggish and slow to do this and I can't double tap and hold and then drag down to move quickly as I can do in a table index.. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Hi, I completely concur. another thing I fervently wish for is the ability in the my radio stations section of the iOS app to have a power scroll feature so one could move letter by letter instead of having to scroll through all saved stations. I know one can search for them too but this would be nice. If it's there I sure haven't found the ability to access it with VoiceOver. Robin -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos Interesting, I did check the Queue button and did not see these options. I'll have to take another look. One thing that still bugs me a bit in the iOS app is that sometimes it seems you can't swipe through all the options on the screen. For example, I would open the queue and touch somewhere in the middle which would land me on the track list. I then swipe left and I might get to the first song in the queue, but then it won't go further into the options you mentioned, Repeat, Shuffle, Close Queue etc. The funny thing is that sometimes it does work, but other times it doesn't. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Awesome thanks I thought that button did the same as on the pc. John Diakogeorgiou On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: John, The shuffle feature is indeed accessible using the iOS App controller, launch the App, at the bottom right of the display find the queue button, double tap this. At the top of the screen, there are three options that are relevant, shuffle, repeat and close, all relating to the queue. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 14 Sep 2014, at 23:11, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you who use the Sonos App is their a way to turn on the shuffle feature from within the app? Also, they are saying that we don't need a bridge anymore has any one tried taking off the bridge? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because
Automatic Updates Setting in Itunes and App Store
I searched through my settings yesterday and discovered there is a subheading entitled Itunes and Apps Store. Within this subheading is a section entitled automatic downloads which lists (1) music, (2) apps, (3) books and (4) updates. I am assuming that the updates subheading is not the software update we are all expecting tomorrow. I was told that my ipad should have a pop up which allows me to choose if I want to immediately download IOS 8 or wait a bit. Can anyone explain what the updates setting in the itunes and app store should be updating besides apps, musics and books and do many of you keep the automatic downloads activated to automatically download updates to books, apps, music and updates? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatic Updates Setting in Itunes and App Store
The updates on that section, it's more than likely for the updates for applications. The iOS update will be under setting then general. There you will find the option to select software to update iOS. The reason why we cannot automatically update iOS is because you have to agree to the terms. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:06 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: I searched through my settings yesterday and discovered there is a subheading entitled Itunes and Apps Store. Within this subheading is a section entitled automatic downloads which lists (1) music, (2) apps, (3) books and (4) updates. I am assuming that the updates subheading is not the software update we are all expecting tomorrow. I was told that my ipad should have a pop up which allows me to choose if I want to immediately download IOS 8 or wait a bit. Can anyone explain what the updates setting in the itunes and app store should be updating besides apps, musics and books and do many of you keep the automatic downloads activated to automatically download updates to books, apps, music and updates? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Dice Buddies
Good morning everybody. While I think Dice World is definitely the best dice game out there for me, I've been playing with Dice Buddies and am wondering if anyone else has tried this. It's pretty accessible but you don't get hints of what is available. You have to look and physically scan with your finger to see what needs to be done. And bonuses are hard to find, and not as numerous. My question is the scratchies. They come up at times, don't know how or why, but I don't think there is anyway for a blind person to work at them.I get somebody sighted to do it. It is like playing a lottery ticket where you scrach off and look for matching prize. Has anyone figured out this one? Thanks. Mary Anne -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Where can I get the book? Also, I am considering the 6 plus but I am concerned how large it will be after putting on a protective shock absorb-ant case like the otter box. I honestly, am quite excited about iOS 8 even knowing ahead of time about the bugs. I am really excited about the different keyboard/typing/text input options. I hope that is not one of the bugs and I hope it does not disappoint. When is the release of iOS 8? Tomorrow? Christina On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug
Re: Dice Buddies
I play Dice With Buddies and I too have to get someone with sight to do the scratchers for me. This app has actually come a long way, use to, everything just said button button button. If they could make the scratchers work with VoiceOver, this app would rate a 5 in my book, although Dice World will always be my favorite. -Original Message- From: Mary Anne Lynskey Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Dice Buddies Good morning everybody. While I think Dice World is definitely the best dice game out there for me, I've been playing with Dice Buddies and am wondering if anyone else has tried this. It's pretty accessible but you don't get hints of what is available. You have to look and physically scan with your finger to see what needs to be done. And bonuses are hard to find, and not as numerous. My question is the scratchies. They come up at times, don't know how or why, but I don't think there is anyway for a blind person to work at them.I get somebody sighted to do it. It is like playing a lottery ticket where you scrach off and look for matching prize. Has anyone figured out this one? Thanks. Mary Anne -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dice Buddies
what games can you play on dice buddies? *** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to wait on the blessing he has in store for me! -Original Message- From: MamaPeach Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dice Buddies I play Dice With Buddies and I too have to get someone with sight to do the scratchers for me. This app has actually come a long way, use to, everything just said button button button. If they could make the scratchers work with VoiceOver, this app would rate a 5 in my book, although Dice World will always be my favorite. -Original Message- From: Mary Anne Lynskey Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Dice Buddies Good morning everybody. While I think Dice World is definitely the best dice game out there for me, I've been playing with Dice Buddies and am wondering if anyone else has tried this. It's pretty accessible but you don't get hints of what is available. You have to look and physically scan with your finger to see what needs to be done. And bonuses are hard to find, and not as numerous. My question is the scratchies. They come up at times, don't know how or why, but I don't think there is anyway for a blind person to work at them.I get somebody sighted to do it. It is like playing a lottery ticket where you scrach off and look for matching prize. Has anyone figured out this one? Thanks. Mary Anne -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dice Buddies
Just Yatzee, no other games are included -Original Message- From: janet wright Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dice Buddies what games can you play on dice buddies? *** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to wait on the blessing he has in store for me! -Original Message- From: MamaPeach Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dice Buddies I play Dice With Buddies and I too have to get someone with sight to do the scratchers for me. This app has actually come a long way, use to, everything just said button button button. If they could make the scratchers work with VoiceOver, this app would rate a 5 in my book, although Dice World will always be my favorite. -Original Message- From: Mary Anne Lynskey Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Dice Buddies Good morning everybody. While I think Dice World is definitely the best dice game out there for me, I've been playing with Dice Buddies and am wondering if anyone else has tried this. It's pretty accessible but you don't get hints of what is available. You have to look and physically scan with your finger to see what needs to be done. And bonuses are hard to find, and not as numerous. My question is the scratchies. They come up at times, don't know how or why, but I don't think there is anyway for a blind person to work at them.I get somebody sighted to do it. It is like playing a lottery ticket where you scrach off and look for matching prize. Has anyone figured out this one? Thanks. Mary Anne -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group
Re: my iphone 4ws
Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok? Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,, start downloading the last update available. But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7 in my computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to do a restore? Thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Hi Christina, we can expect the release of iOS 8 at 10 AM Pacific on the 17th. I found a website offering a cut-out of the two phones, so my daughter and I cut them out. The 6 is quite similar in size to the 5s, they've saved a bit of space elsewhere despite increasing the screen. The 6 Plus is a lot longer, but actually, not as long as I was expecting. For me, the significantly better battery life and image stabilisation are worth it. Here's the link to the book you asked for. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 3:33 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I get the book? Also, I am considering the 6 plus but I am concerned how large it will be after putting on a protective shock absorb-ant case like the otter box. I honestly, am quite excited about iOS 8 even knowing ahead of time about the bugs. I am really excited about the different keyboard/typing/text input options. I hope that is not one of the bugs and I hope it does not disappoint. When is the release of iOS 8? Tomorrow? Christina On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com mailto:canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com mailto:roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year
Re: my iphone 4ws
I can tell you unequivocally that Alex will not be on the 4S. Alex is only supported on devices with a 64-bit processor. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 4:15 am, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok? Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,, start downloading the last update available. But I don't want to install it, what can I do to keep the IOs 7 in my computer, and do not download any update to my computer when I need to do a restore? Thanks -- The following information is important
Re: iPad only apps and iPhone only apps
I've found that keeping the setting on all apps works best. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: iPad only apps and iPhone only apps I do not know if this applies to any other device besides the type that I own which is the iPad Air. If you search in the App Store, you may need to change the setting on the upper left side of the screen from iPad only to iPhone only in order to locate certain apps. I was having difficulty locating the nfb-Newsline and the looktel voiceover tutorial apps until I changed the setting from iPad only to iPhone only. This also applied to my search for the access world app that I did today. Hope this is of some help. Michelle Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatic Updates Setting in Itunes and App Store
That is correct. The options there are for automatically adding any new applications, new music, new books, and then updating your applications. So any new items purchased on other devices will be added to this device, and any application updates that come out are automatically applied to your installed applications. None of these do anything with the Software Updates found under General in Settings. Thanks, Denny On 9/16/14, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote: The updates on that section, it's more than likely for the updates for applications. The iOS update will be under setting then general. There you will find the option to select software to update iOS. The reason why we cannot automatically update iOS is because you have to agree to the terms. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:06 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: I searched through my settings yesterday and discovered there is a subheading entitled Itunes and Apps Store. Within this subheading is a section entitled automatic downloads which lists (1) music, (2) apps, (3) books and (4) updates. I am assuming that the updates subheading is not the software update we are all expecting tomorrow. I was told that my ipad should have a pop up which allows me to choose if I want to immediately download IOS 8 or wait a bit. Can anyone explain what the updates setting in the itunes and app store should be updating besides apps, musics and books and do many of you keep the automatic downloads activated to automatically download updates to books, apps, music and updates? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: my iphone 4ws
I wonder how well iOS 8 will run on a 4S? I sometimes wonder if we are better off leaving these with iOS 7, just because 8 is probably more designed to take advantage of more resources that the 4S wouldn't have, making it potentially slower than 7 is now. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I can tell you unequivocally that Alex will not be on the 4S. Alex is only supported on devices with a 64-bit processor. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 4:15 am, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Specs on the 6 and 6+
Hi, People have been asking about the size of the new phones along with other questions. Here is a page with some specs you may or may not already know. http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/ Neal -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Thanks. Can you also please send me the link to the cut out for the new iPhones. :) I am glad to know it is taller but not so fat that my short hands will probably be able to hold it. The image stabilization is the main reason I want the iPhone 6 plus. Christina On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Christina, we can expect the release of iOS 8 at 10 AM Pacific on the 17th. I found a website offering a cut-out of the two phones, so my daughter and I cut them out. The 6 is quite similar in size to the 5s, they've saved a bit of space elsewhere despite increasing the screen. The 6 Plus is a lot longer, but actually, not as long as I was expecting. For me, the significantly better battery life and image stabilisation are worth it. Here's the link to the book you asked for. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 3:33 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I get the book? Also, I am considering the 6 plus but I am concerned how large it will be after putting on a protective shock absorb-ant case like the otter box. I honestly, am quite excited about iOS 8 even knowing ahead of time about the bugs. I am really excited about the different keyboard/typing/text input options. I hope that is not one of the bugs and I hope it does not disappoint. When is the release of iOS 8? Tomorrow? Christina On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the
Re: the sound of the new phones?
I used the classic old phone ring tone for quite some time. I used it on my iPhone 4 and it was pretty funny when my phone in my pocket would ring and people around me started to look around because we would be outside! Use to drive folks nuts! Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:15 PM Subject: RE: the sound of the new phones? Wow, my phone drives me out of the room and it's only at 70%. I think the ring tone you select makes a difference. Some of them seem not to be very loud. I have mine set to the classic phone ring, like a land line phone. I know. How boring, but it sure works. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:08 PM To: visually impaired phone group Subject: the sound of the new phones? I have heard people say that one of their major complaints about the current iPhone models is that the ringer volume, even when set at 100 percent, is too low. I personally don't find this to be true. I don't recall anything mentioned about increased sound capabilities of the iPhone 6 or 6 plus. Does anyone know of increased ringer volume and or improved sound in the new models? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iPad only apps and iPhone only apps
My iPad Air only seems to have the iPad only and the iPhone app options in the App Store. There is no selection for all apps, which would be the best option. I just find if I can not locate an app with a search that I need to change the default setting of iPad only to iPhone only and then the app can be located. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: my iphone 4ws
Folk with a spare phone can indeed experiment, I do have, and may well do; but as a primary phone, it's worth holding back until you know it's safe or you could be dead in the water, phone wise. The 3gS went that way. As for XP security, I have a little network hub, I have its ac adapter plugged into a switched socket with a relay operated switch. I kill the network hub, Not router note!, the little hub to keep the machine isolated when not in use, and am close to the button if I think the activity is taking too long and don't like the sound of it. Malware is usually about access from outside, or access out fromi nside, either way, there's no getting past a mechanical switch you flick off. my cousin has xP machines dedicated to sound processing and doesn't take them online at all. They're as safe as houses and do quite a good job, in their own good time. RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday,
Re: my iphone 4ws
Ok, glad to know; I don't even like it on old mMini. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:16 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I can tell you unequivocally that Alex will not be on the 4S. Alex is only supported on devices with a 64-bit processor. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 4:15 am, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is because I don't want, it is not because bugs, ok? Now, if I don't want to do it. In case that I want, or I need to do a restore, of my iPhone. When I press restore, the iTunes automatically,, start downloading the last update available. But I
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Chris, I'm delighted to hear this. I'll wait a few days until the roar dies down a bit and then do the upgrade to iOS 8. I value your opinion my young friend. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:10 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I'm looking forward to the book for sure. Pre-ordered it as soon as it was announced. Looking forward to iOS 8 as well and I agree with you in that you'll all like it despite any major bugs or consequences found but at least there are workarounds! Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 05:51, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying
OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID?
Hello Folks, What is the easiest and most accessible site to get an apple ID? It seems to me that this feature is not accessible on the apple website. Not only that it has a captcha, but also the check box for accepting the terms and conditions is invisible to screen readers. Any idea on how to go around this problem and creating an apple ID without sighted help? I appreciate your suggestions. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Does anyone know how to contact the list moderator?
I have a friend who has been waiting quite a while for approval to post to this list although she is subscribed and receives emails from the list, but she is unable to post to this list. She has tried writing to viphone plus help @ googlegroups.com and to viphone plus owners @ googlegroups.com, but the emails just bounce back. Does anyone have the email address to contact the list moderators or owners? Thank you. Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatic Updates Setting in Itunes and App Store
These settings when checked will let you use cellular data when not connected to WI-FI. Just uncheck the items if you want to restrict everything to WI-FI only. I have some of my favorite apps on my iPhone 4 and it's restricted to WI-FI because the phone part is not active or I should say it's not connected to ATT any longer. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Automatic Updates Setting in Itunes and App Store I searched through my settings yesterday and discovered there is a subheading entitled Itunes and Apps Store. Within this subheading is a section entitled automatic downloads which lists (1) music, (2) apps, (3) books and (4) updates. I am assuming that the updates subheading is not the software update we are all expecting tomorrow. I was told that my ipad should have a pop up which allows me to choose if I want to immediately download IOS 8 or wait a bit. Can anyone explain what the updates setting in the itunes and app store should be updating besides apps, musics and books and do many of you keep the automatic downloads activated to automatically download updates to books, apps, music and updates? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: my iphone 4ws
He won't be there because he's a 64 bit voice and your 4s is only a 32 bit phone. The 5s is a 64 bit phone and it will work on it. AAnd the iPad air. I don't know if the other iPads are 64 bit. The Air is because I own one. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here,
Re: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID?
Hello, Go to: https://appleid.apple.com/ Then, click the Create Apple ID button. Everything is pretty much straight forward (name, E-Mail Address, what you want your Apple ID to be, ETC.) There is a captcha you have to fill out, but there is an audio captcha available. You find this by clicking on the link that says Visual Impaired. Hope this helps, Jeffrey On 9/16/2014 12:53 PM, Cris Ali wrote: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID? Hello Folks, What is the easiest and most accessible site to get an apple ID? It seems to me that this feature is not accessible on the apple website. Not only that it has acaptcha, but also the check box for accepting the terms and conditions is invisible to screen readers. Any idea on how to go around this problem andcreating an apple ID without sighted help? I appreciate your suggestions. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
In a word: no. I can say that, in theory, the Plus will offer better images, but there's no way to actually know for sure what kind of difference the stabilization will have without doing side-by-side tests using both phones. I read one article that said the feature is most useful in low lighting, so perhaps it will not be as big a deal as most of us are imagining. The bottom line, though, is that no one can say for sure until we have hard data, which cannot happen until the phones are released and someone or some company tests both. On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
Hi Alex, Thanks for posting. I thought this may be the response, but I just wanted to post anyway. I'm sure once the KNFB reader app has been released, those who have either phone may be able to have more precise information regarding my question. Only time will tell. I am excited to get a new phone, but will wait until the verdict is out. Eileen From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus In a word: no. I can say that, in theory, the Plus will offer better images, but there's no way to actually know for sure what kind of difference the stabilization will have without doing side-by-side tests using both phones. I read one article that said the feature is most useful in low lighting, so perhaps it will not be as big a deal as most of us are imagining. The bottom line, though, is that no one can say for sure until we have hard data, which cannot happen until the phones are released and someone or some company tests both. On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID?
Below are instructions I wrote for creating an Apple ID without a credit card, but it will also work if you want to choose a credit card instead of selecting none. You do this on your Apple Device. Creating an account on iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch Open the App Store on your device. Find a free application on the App Store. Important: Before proceeding to the next step, you must download and install the free application by tapping Free followed by tapping Install App. Tap Create New Apple ID. Choose your country, and then tap Done. You'll need to read and agree to the iTunes Store Terms Conditions. Tap Agree located at the bottom of the page to continue. Enter your email address, security questions, birthday, and create your password. You also can enter an optional rescue email address. If you frequently change email addresses, it is recommended that you add a rescue email address. Learn more about the rescue email address. Once you are satisfied with the information entered, tap Next. Select None as your payment option. Continue to fill out the required email, address, and phone number fields. Tap Next. You'll then see a screen that says Verify your Account. Tap Done, and check your email for a verification email from iTunes Store. Open the email, and click the link enclosed in the email to activate your account. Once you tap the link, the App Store should automatically open and prompt you to sign in with your account name and password. Tap Sign In, and you will see a thank you screen. You have set up your account successfully, and you can start enjoying iTunes, iBooks, and the App Store on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. From: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2534 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, What is the easiest and most accessible site to get an apple ID? It seems to me that this feature is not accessible on the apple website. Not only that it has a captcha, but also the check box for accepting the terms and conditions is invisible to screen readers. Any idea on how to go around this problem and creating an apple ID without sighted help? I appreciate your suggestions. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
If it's true that it will work better in low lighting that should be to our advantage. On 9/16/14, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Thanks for posting. I thought this may be the response, but I just wanted to post anyway. I'm sure once the KNFB reader app has been released, those who have either phone may be able to have more precise information regarding my question. Only time will tell. I am excited to get a new phone, but will wait until the verdict is out. Eileen From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus In a word: no. I can say that, in theory, the Plus will offer better images, but there's no way to actually know for sure what kind of difference the stabilization will have without doing side-by-side tests using both phones. I read one article that said the feature is most useful in low lighting, so perhaps it will not be as big a deal as most of us are imagining. The bottom line, though, is that no one can say for sure until we have hard data, which cannot happen until the phones are released and someone or some company tests both. On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you
Re: my iphone 4ws
The Mini with Retina should also work on it as well. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 18:14, Alan Paganelli wrote: He won't be there because he's a 64 bit voice and your 4s is only a 32 bit phone. The 5s is a 64 bit phone and it will work on it. AAnd the iPad air. I don't know if the other iPads are 64 bit. The Air is because I own one. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Does anyone know how to contact the list moderator?
More like she can post but her messages are in the moderation queue. I saw my recent posts only last night. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 18:06, Michelle Bernstein wrote: I have a friend who has been waiting quite a while for approval to post to this list although she is subscribed and receives emails from the list, but she is unable to post to this list. She has tried writing to viphone plus help @ googlegroups.com and to viphone plus owners @ googlegroups.com, but the emails just bounce back. Does anyone have the email address to contact the list moderators or owners? Thank you. Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
HaI like your attitude Teresa! Todd On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Well, i'm an adventurer. I figure that I'm going to have to bite the bullet, so I may as well get it overwith and ride out the bugs. I'e had some major adventures with various operating systems that have thus far made iOS's bugs look like microscopic nits. So I'll plunge in and check it out. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 13, 2014, at 3:13 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: This is great information, Sieghard. Thank you for giving us a heads-up on it. I think I'll update one of my older phones to iOS 8 and see how it goes. Thanks again. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 It's useable, and iOS 8 is stabil, but you may run into some inconveniences. It's hard for me to tell somebody to go ahead or not because everybody is different. Keep in mind that bluetooth keyboard support is very bad and if you are in the habit of manually dialing phone numbers iOS 8 is a pain in the neck because quite often as you dial one of the numbers just decides to stick and the DialTone goes on and on. As a minimum you have to bring up the app switcher and throw the phone app out, then try again. Prior to the Goldmaster I had to actually totally shut down the phone and reboot in order to stop the DialTone. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes out. Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday, September 17 with subject The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with Voiceover. What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not specifically accessibility related and they don't happen if Voiceover is not running but as soon as Voiceover is on you suddenly are plagued by this and that. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM To: ViPone list Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Here is a link to an article by Steven Aquino about the accessibility features in iOS 8: http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-fe atures/ Richard Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID?
I set up mine back in 2008 when I received my first iPod the iPod Shuffle. I did it under iTunes for Windows with JAWS as the screen reader. It was fiddly but doable. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 17:53, Cris Ali wrote: Hello Folks, What is the easiest and most accessible site to get an apple ID? It seems to me that this feature is not accessible on the apple website. Not only that it has a captcha, but also the check box for accepting the terms and conditions is invisible to screen readers. Any idea on how to go around this problem and creating an apple ID without sighted help? I appreciate your suggestions. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: my iphone 4ws
I update to the latest on my older device purely to see what it's like and to prepare myself for when I get a newer device that will run it better. I did exactly the same last year when I updated the now defunct iPhone 4 to iOS 7. It was worth the experimentation and of course worked far better when I upgraded to the iPhone 4s. It ran even better on my iPad Mini with Retina which I had since New Year. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 17:44, RobH. wrote: Folk with a spare phone can indeed experiment, I do have, and may well do; but as a primary phone, it's worth holding back until you know it's safe or you could be dead in the water, phone wise. The 3gS went that way. As for XP security, I have a little network hub, I have its ac adapter plugged into a switched socket with a relay operated switch. I kill the network hub, Not router note!, the little hub to keep the machine isolated when not in use, and am close to the button if I think the activity is taking too long and don't like the sound of it. Malware is usually about access from outside, or access out fromi nside, either way, there's no getting past a mechanical switch you flick off. my cousin has xP machines dedicated to sound processing and doesn't take them online at all. They're as safe as houses and do quite a good job, in their own good time. RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
Possibly, but remember that the 6 series, and even the 5S, include an advanced flash. This is meant to light an image more accurately (in terms of tone and color) than a regular flash, such as that found on the 5 or 4S. Given the use of stands with built-in lighting, and the automatic flash on the iPhone itself, I can't help but think that low light is not as much of a concern. On Sep 16, 2014, at 1:59 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: If it's true that it will work better in low lighting that should be to our advantage. On 9/16/14, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Thanks for posting. I thought this may be the response, but I just wanted to post anyway. I'm sure once the KNFB reader app has been released, those who have either phone may be able to have more precise information regarding my question. Only time will tell. I am excited to get a new phone, but will wait until the verdict is out. Eileen From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus In a word: no. I can say that, in theory, the Plus will offer better images, but there's no way to actually know for sure what kind of difference the stabilization will have without doing side-by-side tests using both phones. I read one article that said the feature is most useful in low lighting, so perhaps it will not be as big a deal as most of us are imagining. The bottom line, though, is that no one can say for sure until we have hard data, which cannot happen until the phones are released and someone or some company tests both. On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Preorder the book here www.mosen.org Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 16:33, Christina C. wrote: Where can I get the book? Also, I am considering the 6 plus but I am concerned how large it will be after putting on a protective shock absorb-ant case like the otter box. I honestly, am quite excited about iOS 8 even knowing ahead of time about the bugs. I am really excited about the different keyboard/typing/text input options. I hope that is not one of the bugs and I hope it does not disappoint. When is the release of iOS 8? Tomorrow? Christina On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Lynn, Cheryl, and list, A number of excellent resources are always available on release day to talk you through the new features and explain what bugs you should expect to encounter, many of which have already been mentioned. One other resource that I haven't seen mentioned yet is AppleVis.com. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but I tend to find their information extremely well written. I understand that they will be releasing a number of free resources and guides tomorrow to outline the major new changes and bugs. I would definitely keep an eye on www.applevis.com as well as this list for more information. Grant On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes out. Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday, September 17 with subject The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with Voiceover. What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not specifically accessibility related and they don't happen if Voiceover is not running but as soon as Voiceover is on you suddenly are plagued by this and that. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM To: ViPone list Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
Hmmm because people complained about Apple invading their privacy something stupid like that. I know I know. Totally unnecessary in my view. Don't want it? Don't download it and wait for it to be removed automatically! Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 16/09/2014 14:36, Charles Rivard wrote: Why would Apple release a removal tool if the offer's going to be removed on or around the ninth of October, anyway? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:51 AM Subject: RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Can you provide the website with the 6 and 6+ cutouts? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Christina, we can expect the release of iOS 8 at 10 AM Pacific on the 17th. I found a website offering a cut-out of the two phones, so my daughter and I cut them out. The 6 is quite similar in size to the 5s, they've saved a bit of space elsewhere despite increasing the screen. The 6 Plus is a lot longer, but actually, not as long as I was expecting. For me, the significantly better battery life and image stabilisation are worth it. Here's the link to the book you asked for. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 3:33 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.commailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I get the book? Also, I am considering the 6 plus but I am concerned how large it will be after putting on a protective shock absorb-ant case like the otter box. I honestly, am quite excited about iOS 8 even knowing ahead of time about the bugs. I am really excited about the different keyboard/typing/text input options. I hope that is not one of the bugs and I hope it does not disappoint. When is the release of iOS 8? Tomorrow? Christina On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.orgmailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.orghttp://mosen.org/ On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.commailto:canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.commailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.commailto:roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the opinion that I need the newer phone first. Which one, I don't know, screen size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the phone to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new
RE: my iPhone 4ws
Hi, I think that you can rest assured that Alex will not work on the 4s. Apple says that it won't work on anything that doesn't have a 64 bit processor. I heard a podcast by someone who had run the beta of IOS 8 on a 4s and they said that Alex doesn't even show up as an option on the 4s. I have a 4s and I'll probably stay with IOS7. IOS 7 was slower than 6. It's OK but I don't think I want any more slowdowns. I don't find the availability of Alex to be that big a deal. Plus, sounds like VO is very buggy in IOS8. By the time they iron out all the bugs, maybe I will have a iPhone 6. Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:03 AM Subject: Re: IOS8!!! And i can't wait to use the Continuity feature even though i don't understand how it's supposed to be done or used. Does anyone know anything about that? /Krister 11 sep 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com: You get on your knees and pray/bag the apple computer gods that the iPhone doesn't get the iOS 8 update. I am looking forward to iOS 8. I can't wait to use the hand off features and apple pay. Best, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS8!!! No, anybody is responding my question. If I don't want to update my iPhone 5s, to IOs8. Because I don't want, I don't want to hurt feelings here, it is
Re: Does anyone know how to contact the list moderator?
viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com Paste the above, I took out spaces, the word Plus, and made it in the singular. not tried it, I've no immediate comment to make to them. Rh. - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:06 PM Subject: Does anyone know how to contact the list moderator? I have a friend who has been waiting quite a while for approval to post to this list although she is subscribed and receives emails from the list, but she is unable to post to this list. She has tried writing to viphone plus help @ googlegroups.com and to viphone plus owners @ googlegroups.com, but the emails just bounce back. Does anyone have the email address to contact the list moderators or owners? Thank you. Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Does anyone know how to contact the list moderator?
The list moderator is Raul Gallegos and his email address is: r...@raulgallegos.com The list owner is Cara Quinn and her email address is: modelc...@gmail.com I've not seen posts from either in quite a while so I'm assuming they are still the list moderator and owner. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Does anyone know how to contact the list moderator? I have a friend who has been waiting quite a while for approval to post to this list although she is subscribed and receives emails from the list, but she is unable to post to this list. She has tried writing to viphone plus help @ googlegroups.com and to viphone plus owners @ googlegroups.com, but the emails just bounce back. Does anyone have the email address to contact the list moderators or owners? Thank you. Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
I frankly don't understand why there's a removal teol for this, when one can remove anything from the music library or purchased playlist in the usual way. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC
I know there has been a lot of hoopla over the free U2 Songs of Innocence album and I apologize if my question has already been answered. I've seen a lot of discussion about how to remove the album but I want to download it to my computer. The album shows as purchased from within iTunes but doesn't offer any download links. Normally, a listing of tracks from within the iTunes Store will have a link on the price that serves as a launching point to both buy and download the song. I get most of my music through Amazon so am not familiar with the ways of the iTunes Store but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to download the U2 album. I figure I might as well grab it since it's free. Any direction on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
Sure, here's a link to the PDF. If you can get sighted assistance to cut these out, if gives you a good feel for the length and width. Really helped me to make up my mind. http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/download/iphone-6-and-6-plus-scale-cutouts.pdf Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 6:38 am, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Can you provide the website with the 6 and 6+ cutouts? From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Christina, we can expect the release of iOS 8 at 10 AM Pacific on the 17th. I found a website offering a cut-out of the two phones, so my daughter and I cut them out. The 6 is quite similar in size to the 5s, they've saved a bit of space elsewhere despite increasing the screen. The 6 Plus is a lot longer, but actually, not as long as I was expecting. For me, the significantly better battery life and image stabilisation are worth it. Here's the link to the book you asked for. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 17/09/2014, at 3:33 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I get the book? Also, I am considering the 6 plus but I am concerned how large it will be after putting on a protective shock absorb-ant case like the otter box. I honestly, am quite excited about iOS 8 even knowing ahead of time about the bugs. I am really excited about the different keyboard/typing/text input options. I hope that is not one of the bugs and I hope it does not disappoint. When is the release of iOS 8? Tomorrow? Christina On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Lynn and all. It might be best to withhold your judgment for a bit. I'm not denying there are some real annoyances with this release, and depending on how you use your device, they'll be more of a bother to you than they will be for others. But for me, weighing up the good and bad, I'd still upgrade. There is just so much to like about iOS 8. I'm planning on releasing iOS 8 Without the Eye a few hours before the software goes live so people get a chance to read it. In the email going out containing the book, there is a summary of the major bugs, consequences, and possible work-arounds. So those getting the book can hopefully make up their minds about whether upgrading is right for them by release time. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 14/09/2014, at 8:55 am, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com mailto:canepri...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a hurry to update or get the new phone. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my other devices even if there are some bugs. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com mailto:roseco...@q.com wrote: I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade. Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible through Verizon,
Re: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC
Hi, Open the iTunes store and choose the Purchased link. The album should be listed with a download link. Choose that link, and you should be all set. Sorry I can't be more specific, but I use a Mac, and exactly how you get to the store depends on whether you have the Source list visible. Best, Anna On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: I know there has been a lot of hoopla over the free U2 Songs of Innocence album and I apologize if my question has already been answered. I've seen a lot of discussion about how to remove the album but I want to download it to my computer. The album shows as purchased from within iTunes but doesn't offer any download links. Normally, a listing of tracks from within the iTunes Store will have a link on the price that serves as a launching point to both buy and download the song. I get most of my music through Amazon so am not familiar with the ways of the iTunes Store but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to download the U2 album. I figure I might as well grab it since it's free. Any direction on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
I have not downloaded it, so I do not know the following from personal experience. But allegedly, once people downloaded it, they literally could not delete it. I think that is what got a lot of people upset, the fact that they could not delete it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today I frankly don't understand why there's a removal teol for this, when one can remove anything from the music library or purchased playlist in the usual way. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --
Re: my iphone 4ws
Remember when it was said that IOS 7 would run on an iPhone 4? Yes it technically would run from the initial release of IOS 7, but not very well. They had to come out wit, I think it might have been, 7.1 before it would run very well. I wonder if this might be the same situation with IOS 8 and the 4s? If I had a 4s, I would let a few other 4s owners update them before I updated mine, to see if they wish they hadn't. For all 4s owners, I hope IOS 8 runs splendidly from the very beginning. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Brent Harding To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:27 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I wonder how well iOS 8 will run on a 4S? I sometimes wonder if we are better off leaving these with iOS 7, just because 8 is probably more designed to take advantage of more resources that the 4S wouldn't have, making it potentially slower than 7 is now. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I can tell you unequivocally that Alex will not be on the 4S. Alex is only supported on devices with a 64-bit processor. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 4:15 am, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker for our iPhones so we can make and answer calls. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook
RE: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
While using Text Detective to scan my mail today, I was analyzing what happens and the amount of movement that I make when using the app. To clarify first, I do stabilize my elbows close to my body to eliminate any extraneous suttle movement. What I am wondering is if the optical stabilizer would also stabilize the natural rise and fall of one's chest when breathing during the activity of OCRing text? I don't know if it would make a difference, but just food for thought and maybe a reason to op for the iPhone6 Plus. I'm not concerned with the lighting issue and a better flash in either model will be a plus for increase accuracy. Like I stated in my first post, I usually use the StandScan Pro if I am doing any serious OCR tasks. JMO. Eileen From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Possibly, but remember that the 6 series, and even the 5S, include an advanced flash. This is meant to light an image more accurately (in terms of tone and color) than a regular flash, such as that found on the 5 or 4S. Given the use of stands with built-in lighting, and the automatic flash on the iPhone itself, I can't help but think that low light is not as much of a concern. On Sep 16, 2014, at 1:59 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: If it's true that it will work better in low lighting that should be to our advantage. On 9/16/14, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Thanks for posting. I thought this may be the response, but I just wanted to post anyway. I'm sure once the KNFB reader app has been released, those who have either phone may be able to have more precise information regarding my question. Only time will tell. I am excited to get a new phone, but will wait until the verdict is out. Eileen From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus In a word: no. I can say that, in theory, the Plus will offer better images, but there's no way to actually know for sure what kind of difference the stabilization will have without doing side-by-side tests using both phones. I read one article that said the feature is most useful in low lighting, so perhaps it will not be as big a deal as most of us are imagining. The bottom line, though, is that no one can say for sure until we have hard data, which cannot happen until the phones are released and someone or some company tests both. On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
OT? Need a list serve to ask a specific office 2010 question
Hello All, I would appreciate some assistance with this one, but I rather have some suggestions on where it is most appropriate to post. It's an Office 2010 Outlook question, which I will not disclose here. I would appreciate if anyone has this info to contact me off list. This problem is going to send me to the moon. I appreciate any assistance. Thanks. Best, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC
Hi Alan, Here is how I downloaded it. This assumes that you check the Songs radio button and have the column browser enabled and also that you go to Edit, Preferences, Store Tab and check to show purchases in the cloud. I usually keep this unchecked, but I checked it and then when I went to the column browser and the artist column, U2 was there. I actually had a couple of their older songs so next I went to the album column and selected the Songs of Innocence of whatever the album is called. Then when I tabbed into the songs listview only the 11 songs showed up plus a digital booklet. I pressed Control+A to select all, then I pressed the application menu key or if you don't have one, Shift+F10 will do the same thing and the first option in that context sensitive menu should be Download. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC I know there has been a lot of hoopla over the free U2 Songs of Innocence album and I apologize if my question has already been answered. I've seen a lot of discussion about how to remove the album but I want to download it to my computer. The album shows as purchased from within iTunes but doesn't offer any download links. Normally, a listing of tracks from within the iTunes Store will have a link on the price that serves as a launching point to both buy and download the song. I get most of my music through Amazon so am not familiar with the ways of the iTunes Store but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to download the U2 album. I figure I might as well grab it since it's free. Any direction on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
But you can set your iTunes view so it doesn't show things that are in the cloud. I downloaded the album, then took it off my iPod by using the rotor actions setting for each song to delete it. It works just like everything else in the library; there's no special property about it. shaking head Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: I have not downloaded it, so I do not know the following from personal experience. But allegedly, once people downloaded it, they literally could not delete it. I think that is what got a lot of people upset, the fact that they could not delete it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today I frankly don't understand why there's a removal teol for this, when one can remove anything from the music library or purchased playlist in the usual way. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
RE: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC
Thanks Anna. I was successful but I'm still not seeing the U2 album listed under the iTunes Store Purchased section. I had to go into my settings under Store preferences within iTunes and tick the box Show iTunes in the Cloud purchases. Then, when I displayed the U2 songs in my music library, the tracks from the free Songs of Innocence album were listed with a cloud icon next to them that could be clicked in order to download each track. I've now got the songs on my computer but the only thing listed in iTunes under Purchased are the one song and one video I've actually purchased using iTunes. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC Hi, Open the iTunes store and choose the Purchased link. The album should be listed with a download link. Choose that link, and you should be all set. Sorry I can't be more specific, but I use a Mac, and exactly how you get to the store depends on whether you have the Source list visible. Best, Anna On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: I know there has been a lot of hoopla over the free U2 Songs of Innocence album and I apologize if my question has already been answered. I've seen a lot of discussion about how to remove the album but I want to download it to my computer. The album shows as purchased from within iTunes but doesn't offer any download links. Normally, a listing of tracks from within the iTunes Store will have a link on the price that serves as a launching point to both buy and download the song. I get most of my music through Amazon so am not familiar with the ways of the iTunes Store but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to download the U2 album. I figure I might as well grab it since it's free. Any direction on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC
Now you should be able to find it in your iTunes library. You won't need to look for it in the purchased list. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Anna. I was successful but I'm still not seeing the U2 album listed under the iTunes Store Purchased section. I had to go into my settings under Store preferences within iTunes and tick the box Show iTunes in the Cloud purchases. Then, when I displayed the U2 songs in my music library, the tracks from the free Songs of Innocence album were listed with a cloud icon next to them that could be clicked in order to download each track. I've now got the songs on my computer but the only thing listed in iTunes under Purchased are the one song and one video I've actually purchased using iTunes. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Download Free U2 Album to My PC Hi, Open the iTunes store and choose the Purchased link. The album should be listed with a download link. Choose that link, and you should be all set. Sorry I can't be more specific, but I use a Mac, and exactly how you get to the store depends on whether you have the Source list visible. Best, Anna On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: I know there has been a lot of hoopla over the free U2 Songs of Innocence album and I apologize if my question has already been answered. I've seen a lot of discussion about how to remove the album but I want to download it to my computer. The album shows as purchased from within iTunes but doesn't offer any download links. Normally, a listing of tracks from within the iTunes Store will have a link on the price that serves as a launching point to both buy and download the song. I get most of my music through Amazon so am not familiar with the ways of the iTunes Store but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to download the U2 album. I figure I might as well grab it since it's free. Any direction on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --
RE: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
My guess is that KNFB Reader on a 6 or a 6 Plus will perform very much the same and that the optical image stabilization won't make a lot of difference. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that one feature where a number of variables are involved in how good your OCR result will be. Lighting and skew may very well be more important. I personally find I can hold my phone very still but that doesn't mean I may not throw a shadow over the page or am holding the phone so it is not aligned with the text. KNFB Reader's analytic capabilities should help with that, but unless they are confirming that they are making full use of the optical image stabilization capabilities it may make very little difference. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
The album is just like any other group of music files, and can be deleted using the same procedure. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today I have not downloaded it, so I do not know the following from personal experience. But allegedly, once people downloaded it, they literally could not delete it. I think that is what got a lot of people upset, the fact that they could not delete it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today I frankly don't understand why there's a removal teol for this, when one can remove anything from the music library or purchased playlist in the usual way. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go to: http://itunes.com/soi-remove -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
I think many people are being hung up on this feature where a bigger screen can be more of a problem for a voiceover user. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: My guess is that KNFB Reader on a 6 or a 6 Plus will perform very much the same and that the optical image stabilization won't make a lot of difference. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that one feature where a number of variables are involved in how good your OCR result will be. Lighting and skew may very well be more important. I personally find I can hold my phone very still but that doesn't mean I may not throw a shadow over the page or am holding the phone so it is not aligned with the text. KNFB Reader's analytic capabilities should help with that, but unless they are confirming that they are making full use of the optical image stabilization capabilities it may make very little difference. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: OT? Need a list serve to ask a specific office 2010 question
What is your question about Outlook? Thom thom3...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OT? Need a list serve to ask a specific office 2010 question Hello All, I would appreciate some assistance with this one, but I rather have some suggestions on where it is most appropriate to post. It's an Office 2010 Outlook question, which I will not disclose here. I would appreciate if anyone has this info to contact me off list. This problem is going to send me to the moon. I appreciate any assistance. Thanks. Best, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
I am glad my information was wrong, and that it can be deleted from your phone.I had heard that it could not be deleted, but didn't know this myself. . That is why I used the word allegedly. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today But you can set your iTunes view so it doesn't show things that are in the cloud. I downloaded the album, then took it off my iPod by using the rotor actions setting for each song to delete it. It works just like everything else in the library; there's no special property about it. shaking head Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: I have not downloaded it, so I do not know the following from personal experience. But allegedly, once people downloaded it, they literally could not delete it. I think that is what got a lot of people upset, the fact that they could not delete it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today I frankly don't understand why there's a removal teol for this, when one can remove anything from the music library or purchased playlist in the usual way. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
Hello, Thanks to all that have responded to my inquiry about which iPhone 6 would be best in performing OCR. From the concenses, the amount of battery life between the 2 phones may be more of a determining factor then the optical stabilization. I'm sure in the coming days after the phone is released, the Juice Pack case will be on the market, so additional battery life can be somewhat solved with some type of external battery pack, which I don't leave home without it. I'm beginning to lean back to the iPhone 6 and op for 128 GB. Thanks, for all the expert advise. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote: I think many people are being hung up on this feature where a bigger screen can be more of a problem for a voiceover user. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: My guess is that KNFB Reader on a 6 or a 6 Plus will perform very much the same and that the optical image stabilization won't make a lot of difference. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that one feature where a number of variables are involved in how good your OCR result will be. Lighting and skew may very well be more important. I personally find I can hold my phone very still but that doesn't mean I may not throw a shadow over the page or am holding the phone so it is not aligned with the text. KNFB Reader's analytic capabilities should help with that, but unless they are confirming that they are making full use of the optical image stabilization capabilities it may make very little difference. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
Remember, no one in the world except for a few Apple and cell carrier people has an iPhone6 yet. I'd wait until people can run comparison tests before making my final choice. I'd also wait until I can hold both and see just how big a factor the 6Plus size will be. On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:46 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks to all that have responded to my inquiry about which iPhone 6 would be best in performing OCR. From the concenses, the amount of battery life between the 2 phones may be more of a determining factor then the optical stabilization. I'm sure in the coming days after the phone is released, the Juice Pack case will be on the market, so additional battery life can be somewhat solved with some type of external battery pack, which I don't leave home without it. I'm beginning to lean back to the iPhone 6 and op for 128 GB. Thanks, for all the expert advise. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote: I think many people are being hung up on this feature where a bigger screen can be more of a problem for a voiceover user. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: My guess is that KNFB Reader on a 6 or a 6 Plus will perform very much the same and that the optical image stabilization won't make a lot of difference. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that one feature where a number of variables are involved in how good your OCR result will be. Lighting and skew may very well be more important. I personally find I can hold my phone very still but that doesn't mean I may not throw a shadow over the page or am holding the phone so it is not aligned with the text. KNFB Reader's analytic capabilities should help with that, but unless they are confirming that they are making full use of the optical image stabilization capabilities it may make very little difference. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is
Re: my iphone 4ws
Obviously, the potential is always there for a newer operating system to run more sluggishly on older hardware but this doesn't necessarily need to be the case. IOS 7 performance improved greatly on the IOS 4S as updates came out. There's no reason the same couldn't be true for IOS 8. It just depends on how much effort Apple developers put into performance on the 4S. The 4S is officially supported by IOS 8, so I think the burden is on Apple for it to be a delightful experience. On 09/16/2014 11:27 AM, Brent Harding wrote: I wonder how well iOS 8 will run on a 4S? I sometimes wonder if we are better off leaving these with iOS 7, just because 8 is probably more designed to take advantage of more resources that the 4S wouldn't have, making it potentially slower than 7 is now. - Original Message - *From:* Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:16 AM *Subject:* Re: my iphone 4ws I can tell you unequivocally that Alex will not be on the 4S. Alex is only supported on devices with a 64-bit processor. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 4:15 am, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, it might be an idea to leave iOS 7 on my 4s, but it's not what I want to do. I want the new features of iOS8 on my 4S, I want to see if it's really true that Alex won't be supported on these phones. Yes, it's been said on here many times that he won't work, but I think it's fun to see things for yourself. Also, isn't it risky to have XP still on your PC even though Microsoft warned people that there won't be anymore security updates to the OS. I mean yeah, I'm using XP on this Mac but I have the power to get rid of it should anything go wrong with the VM. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com mailto:bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws Might be an idea not to update to 8 on a 4s and get the best out of it's latter years that way. I remember 6 pretty well killed working 3gS's despite them being notionally supported. Like old pC's, leave the Os proportional or contemporary with the hardware, and they'll continue to work well enough for longer than overloading them with an Os they can't sustain. The WinPC I'm writing on is still XP, and the machine dates back to 2005, and it still does now what it did then. JMO, RobH. - Original Message - From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws I have a 4S too, but it'll probably be its last year seeing as how iOS9 won't probably be supported. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com mailto:bhad...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: Re: my iphone 4ws In my opinion, the 4S was the best iPhone design. I currently use a 4 so I'm going to have to upgrade to something at this point. But, if I had a 4S, I wouldn't even be thinking about it. On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have the 4s and others will too. It's a great phone and still is. Just showing its age grin. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu http://www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 21:30, Stephen G. Hughes wrote: Is there any 4s users still out there? Understand the hoopla of the new 6 release; just wondered if there any 4s'ers still out there? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: September-11-14 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hi Krister. Basically what continuity is is you can start something like writing an email on one device and continue what you were doing on another. For example, If I started writing this email on my iPhone and I'm near my Mac, if my Mac's running OS X Yosemite, I can continue this very same email on there. However, iOS 8 and Yosemite are still in beta so those features aren't available to us yet. I'm with you though. I can't wait until we can use continuity because it also lets Mac users use the Mac as a blutooth speaker
Re: Mail questions
Ah, sorry, I didn't realize that. I don't usually worry about the junk mail folder since I know Google will be deleting those messages after 30 days automatically anyway. I took a quick look though, to help answer a question, and when I saw that button I figured it would work. Sorry for the misinformation everyone! On 09/16/2014 07:04 AM, Gmail wrote: Unfortunately, the mark all feature only lets to flag emails or mark them as read or unread. Thanks, Ari On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by the bulk mail folder. If you're talking about the Junk folder, you can double tap on the edit button at the top of the screen and then the mark all button at the bottom of the resulting screen. I think there are keyboard commands for waht you want to do. Check out http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html On 09/15/2014 09:31 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote: When reading mail in the native app, is there a mechanism for deleting all messages in the bulk mail folder at once rather than doing so individually? The second question is this: I've been using gestures to read and delete email messages. If I were to use my Amazon Basics keyboard, are there specific commands to go to the top or bottom of a message? Thanks. Don Roberts -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
Hi Alex, That's exactly what I'm going to do. I have made replicas of each phone size, but it doesn't do it justice until I can get my hands on both of them. I'll wait a bew days, so the Apple store maddness will die down some. Hopefully, touching the phones won't make me more confused and end up not purchasing a new phone. Only time will tell which one I'll get. Thanks. Cheers, Eikeen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Remember, no one in the world except for a few Apple and cell carrier people has an iPhone6 yet. I'd wait until people can run comparison tests before making my final choice. I'd also wait until I can hold both and see just how big a factor the 6Plus size will be. On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:46 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks to all that have responded to my inquiry about which iPhone 6 would be best in performing OCR. From the concenses, the amount of battery life between the 2 phones may be more of a determining factor then the optical stabilization. I'm sure in the coming days after the phone is released, the Juice Pack case will be on the market, so additional battery life can be somewhat solved with some type of external battery pack, which I don't leave home without it. I'm beginning to lean back to the iPhone 6 and op for 128 GB. Thanks, for all the expert advise. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote: I think many people are being hung up on this feature where a bigger screen can be more of a problem for a voiceover user. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: My guess is that KNFB Reader on a 6 or a 6 Plus will perform very much the same and that the optical image stabilization won't make a lot of difference. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that one feature where a number of variables are involved in how good your OCR result will be. Lighting and skew may very well be more important. I personally find I can hold my phone very still but that doesn't mean I may not throw a shadow over the page or am holding the phone so it is not aligned with the text. KNFB Reader's analytic capabilities should help with that, but unless they are confirming that they are making full use of the optical image stabilization capabilities it may make very little difference. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
RE: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID?
Thanks to Richard and jeff. I managed to create a new apple ID without difficulty now. Thanks again for your great help. Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID? Below are instructions I wrote for creating an Apple ID without a credit card, but it will also work if you want to choose a credit card instead of selecting none. You do this on your Apple Device. Creating an account on iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch Open the App Store on your device. Find a free application on the App Store. Important: Before proceeding to the next step, you must download and install the free application by tapping Free followed by tapping Install App. Tap Create New Apple ID. Choose your country, and then tap Done. You'll need to read and agree to the iTunes Store Terms Conditions. Tap Agree located at the bottom of the page to continue. Enter your email address, security questions, birthday, and create your password. You also can enter an optional rescue email address. If you frequently change email addresses, it is recommended that you add a rescue email address. Learn more about the rescue email address. Once you are satisfied with the information entered, tap Next. Select None as your payment option. Continue to fill out the required email, address, and phone number fields. Tap Next. You'll then see a screen that says Verify your Account. Tap Done, and check your email for a verification email from iTunes Store. Open the email, and click the link enclosed in the email to activate your account. Once you tap the link, the App Store should automatically open and prompt you to sign in with your account name and password. Tap Sign In, and you will see a thank you screen. You have set up your account successfully, and you can start enjoying iTunes, iBooks, and the App Store on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. From: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2534 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, What is the easiest and most accessible site to get an apple ID? It seems to me that this feature is not accessible on the apple website. Not only that it has a captcha, but also the check box for accepting the terms and conditions is invisible to screen readers. Any idea on how to go around this problem and creating an apple ID without sighted help? I appreciate your suggestions. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
Re: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID?
These instructions are very good, I would just like to add something. When doing this you have to be fast enough, I had it time out on me a few times, and you have to start from the beginning whenever that happens. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks to Richard and jeff. I managed to create a new apple ID without difficulty now. Thanks again for your great help. Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is the easy accessible way to get an apple ID? Below are instructions I wrote for creating an Apple ID without a credit card, but it will also work if you want to choose a credit card instead of selecting none. You do this on your Apple Device. Creating an account on iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch Open the App Store on your device. Find a free application on the App Store. Important: Before proceeding to the next step, you must download and install the free application by tapping Free followed by tapping Install App. Tap Create New Apple ID. Choose your country, and then tap Done. You'll need to read and agree to the iTunes Store Terms Conditions. Tap Agree located at the bottom of the page to continue. Enter your email address, security questions, birthday, and create your password. You also can enter an optional rescue email address. If you frequently change email addresses, it is recommended that you add a rescue email address. Learn more about the rescue email address. Once you are satisfied with the information entered, tap Next. Select None as your payment option. Continue to fill out the required email, address, and phone number fields. Tap Next. You'll then see a screen that says Verify your Account. Tap Done, and check your email for a verification email from iTunes Store. Open the email, and click the link enclosed in the email to activate your account. Once you tap the link, the App Store should automatically open and prompt you to sign in with your account name and password. Tap Sign In, and you will see a thank you screen. You have set up your account successfully, and you can start enjoying iTunes, iBooks, and the App Store on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. From: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2534 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, What is the easiest and most accessible site to get an apple ID? It seems to me that this feature is not accessible on the apple website. Not only that it has a captcha, but also the check box for accepting the terms and conditions is invisible to screen readers. Any idea on how to go around this problem and creating an apple ID without sighted help? I appreciate your suggestions. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any
Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
Maybe people wanted it to be hidden from their purchase history specifically. Thanks, Ari On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: I am glad my information was wrong, and that it can be deleted from your phone.I had heard that it could not be deleted, but didn't know this myself. . That is why I used the word allegedly. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today But you can set your iTunes view so it doesn't show things that are in the cloud. I downloaded the album, then took it off my iPod by using the rotor actions setting for each song to delete it. It works just like everything else in the library; there's no special property about it. shaking head Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: I have not downloaded it, so I do not know the following from personal experience. But allegedly, once people downloaded it, they literally could not delete it. I think that is what got a lot of people upset, the fact that they could not delete it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today I frankly don't understand why there's a removal teol for this, when one can remove anything from the music library or purchased playlist in the usual way. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: And I bet now that people can remove it some will complain after October 13 that maybe the decided they want it after all and now have to pay for it. What a bunch of baloney. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today Hello Listers, The link to actually remove the album is located at the bottom of this post. Mark Apple has released a tool to remove U2's new album from its customers' iTunes accounts six days after giving away the music for free. Some users had complained about the fact that Songs of Innocence had automatically been downloaded to their devices without their permission. It had not been immediately obvious to many of the account holders how to delete the tracks. The US tech firm is now providing a one-click removal button. Some customers asked for the ability to delete 'Songs of Innocence' from their library, so we set up itunes.com/soi-remove to let them easily do so. Any customer that needs additional help should contact AppleCare, spokesman Adam Howorth told the BBC. Users who want to remove the new U2 album can now click a button to do so Users who remove the album and do not download it again before 13 October will be charged for the 11 tracks if they subsequently try to add them again. It's embarrassing for Apple that it's had a bit of a backlash, commented Ian Maude from the media consultancy Enders Analysis. It was giving something away to its customers - so that part was really good - but what it should have probably done was make it optional. Not everybody's a U2 fan as it's just discovered. Is there any long-term impact? No. It's moved very quickly to fix the problem. 'Blood, sweat and tears' Apple made the album available to about 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries to coincide with its iPhone 6 and Watch launch event last week. Some users had requested an easy way to delete the music from their media libraries U2's singer Bono acknowledged at the time that not everyone would appreciate the gift. People who haven't heard our music, or weren't remotely interested, might play us for the first time because we're in their library, he wrote on the band's site. And for the people out there who have no interest in checking us out, look at it this way... the blood, sweat and tears of some Irish guys are in your junk mail. Bono added that Apple had paid for the giveaway, and reports have suggested that prime placement of banner ads publicising the album on the iTunes store and other publicity provided by the tech firm might be worth as much as $100m (£62m). Sales of earlier U2 albums have re-entered iTunes' charts and the band has also raised its profile ahead of an expected tour as well as a planned follow-up album called Songs of Experience. To Remove the Album from your iCloud account, go
Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8
Wow! This is very nice. I feel like I have iOS 8 on my phone already. Thanks very much for all the work that went into this. Neal -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus
I have used iPhone camera very little, but are guessing that the optical stabilization is good for OCR. It will be interesting to see what people find out soon. Hoping for good result. Always fun with speculations before roll-out. Take care 17. sep. 2014 kl. 02:07 skrev Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com: Hi Alex, That's exactly what I'm going to do. I have made replicas of each phone size, but it doesn't do it justice until I can get my hands on both of them. I'll wait a bew days, so the Apple store maddness will die down some. Hopefully, touching the phones won't make me more confused and end up not purchasing a new phone. Only time will tell which one I'll get. Thanks. Cheers, Eikeen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Remember, no one in the world except for a few Apple and cell carrier people has an iPhone6 yet. I'd wait until people can run comparison tests before making my final choice. I'd also wait until I can hold both and see just how big a factor the 6Plus size will be. On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:46 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks to all that have responded to my inquiry about which iPhone 6 would be best in performing OCR. From the concenses, the amount of battery life between the 2 phones may be more of a determining factor then the optical stabilization. I'm sure in the coming days after the phone is released, the Juice Pack case will be on the market, so additional battery life can be somewhat solved with some type of external battery pack, which I don't leave home without it. I'm beginning to lean back to the iPhone 6 and op for 128 GB. Thanks, for all the expert advise. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote: I think many people are being hung up on this feature where a bigger screen can be more of a problem for a voiceover user. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: My guess is that KNFB Reader on a 6 or a 6 Plus will perform very much the same and that the optical image stabilization won't make a lot of difference. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that one feature where a number of variables are involved in how good your OCR result will be. Lighting and skew may very well be more important. I personally find I can hold my phone very still but that doesn't mean I may not throw a shadow over the page or am holding the phone so it is not aligned with the text. KNFB Reader's analytic capabilities should help with that, but unless they are confirming that they are making full use of the optical image stabilization capabilities it may make very little difference. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: OCR Quality with iPhone6 Vs. iPhone 6 Plus Hello All, I perform a tremendous amount of OCR with my iPhone 4 with either Text Grabber, Text Detecter, or Prizmo. The amount of OCR with the StandScan is more than doing the OCR free hand. I am aware of the difference between the digital stabilizer and the optical stabilizer in the two phones. Can anyone explain the quality that one should expect with the optical stabilizer when it comes to using the iPhone6 Plus? This may be the determining factor when deciding on which phone I will purchase. I am moving up from an iPhone4, so there will definitely be a size increase and getting use to the possibility of not being able to manage the phone with one hand. Thanks in advance for the lists input. Kind regards, Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to
There's Something About that 5.5 Screen Size
Hello Everyone, I have a Galaxy Note 2 Android phone that I use on a daily basis. The Note 2 has a 5.5 inch screen. I can tell you that for the first week I used it, it seemd a bit large but after all this time, about a year now, I can say that I think the 5.5 is a perfect size. Moreover, believe it or not, the 5.5 Note 2 fits in every single pocket that I place my iPHone 5 S in including my shirt breast pocket. Just as with my iPhone 5 S, I keep my Galaxy Note 2 in a folio leather case. If you take a look at the most popular phones out there, you will discover that big is in. People seem to love the 5.5 inch screen and I cannot blame them. A while back, Samsun released the Galaxy Mega which comes in at a wopping 6.3 inch and the Galaxy Note 3 with a 5.7 inch screen. Although the Note 3 and the Mega are both fine devices, each with more features than the Note 2, according to the chatter on the web, their sales were disappointing because consumers did not like their screen sizes. After using each of them for 1 day each, I would have to agree. There's something about that 5.5. Apple is truly brilliant. What they did was sit back for a year or so, disregarding the calls for a larger device and let companies like Samsung release phone after phone after phone experimenting with various sizes until they found the right one. Then, after all the dust has settled, Apple simply releases a device at that sweet spot. Absolutely brilliant. I think most people, after a week or so, will come to love the 5.5 inch display. For better or worse, it is the new normal. Just my opinion. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
dectation key gone missing.
Hi all, After having on going issue with battery on the iphone 5, Apple replace my iphone 5 with another iphone 5 last week. Am i dreaming or what, i found that the dectation key which usually located on the next to the space is gone missing. I haven't tweak any setting with th keyboard at all. And i usually switch between touch typing and standard typing. Have i miss something? i really hope this won't resolve to another Apple store visit, as much as i like the people there... Thanks for all the suggestion in advance. Cheers -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8
Thanks a lot Neal, really appreciate that a lot, the feedback has been wonderful so far. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/09/2014, at 4:41 pm, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Wow! This is very nice. I feel like I have iOS 8 on my phone already. Thanks very much for all the work that went into this. Neal -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: dectation key gone missing.
Have you checked to see if Siri is turned on? I believe it has to be on to see the dictation key. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, After having on going issue with battery on the iphone 5, Apple replace my iphone 5 with another iphone 5 last week. Am i dreaming or what, i found that the dectation key which usually located on the next to the space is gone missing. I haven't tweak any setting with th keyboard at all. And i usually switch between touch typing and standard typing. Have i miss something? i really hope this won't resolve to another Apple store visit, as much as i like the people there... Thanks for all the suggestion in advance. Cheers -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: dectation key gone missing.
First of all be sure that your phone is in an edit mode and ready to type. If it is, go to the bottom left of the keyboard, voice over will say, more. Then to the right of that is the dictate key. Hope this helps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, After having on going issue with battery on the iphone 5, Apple replace my iphone 5 with another iphone 5 last week. Am i dreaming or what, i found that the dectation key which usually located on the next to the space is gone missing. I haven't tweak any setting with th keyboard at all. And i usually switch between touch typing and standard typing. Have i miss something? i really hope this won't resolve to another Apple store visit, as much as i like the people there... Thanks for all the suggestion in advance. Cheers -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
