Re: Sharing apple music by email.

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Hello Terry. You can to do this members apple music only. You can share the 
songs with an otter friends but you have to be a members in order to listen to 
the song.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-13 בנוב׳ 2016, בשעה 9:04, ‏‏terri elliott ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi.  I'd like to send some music to a friend from my apple music library by 
> email.  Is there an app out there that I can use to do this?  I tried the 
> shared option but he would have to install Itunes and he would have to buy 
> the song.  Is there another way that I can send this music to them?  Thanks.
> 
> Terri
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Sharing apple music by email.

[terri elliott]

Hi.  I'd like to send some music to a friend from my apple music library by 
email.  Is there an app out there that I can use to do this?  I tried the 
shared option but he would have to install Itunes and he would have to buy the 
song.  Is there another way that I can send this music to them?  Thanks.

Terri
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Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi Kliphton,


It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of 
course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists 
the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get 
the channels to play, so far.


I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what 
the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.

By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.


I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.


Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please 
let me know.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a funeral, 
> and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Kliphton, and list,
>>
>>
>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
>> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
>>
>> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
>> be a bit odd.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
>> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
>> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
>>
>>
>> Here is where things get interesting.
>>
>> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
>> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
>> well. But I don't remember for sure.
>>
>>
>> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a
>> show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start
>> time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an
>> option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I
>> learned it was an episode of Nashville.
>>
>>
>> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I
>> think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.
>>
>>
>> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
>>
>> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where the 
>>> channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
 On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:

 I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and 
 if you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
 adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there 
 is a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read 
 by voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and 
 wrote down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After 
 going threw them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I 
 wanted to watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, 
 I knew it was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 
 67.  a little getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only 
 using it until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, 
 I am gone!  They will be offering more channels for less. HTH
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>
> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
> provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through 
> the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others 
> when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was 
> interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my 
> time.
>
> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sling tv
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
> trial.
>
>
> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>
> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
>
>
> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>
>
> It doesn't work!
>
> I could 

Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

Never said it was, but a work around for the time being witch is what I stated 
in my previous message.
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> That's not accessibility.
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sling tv
> 
> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
> you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
> adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is a 
> list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
> voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
> down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going threw 
> them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to watch 
> TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 
> 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a little getting 
> use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it until direct TV 
> now launches its service next week, once it does, I am gone! They will be 
> offering more channels for less. HTH
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they provide 
>> this kind of information so others will know and not go through the struggle 
>> and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others when they say 
>> something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was interested in 
>> Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my time.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Sling tv
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
>> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
>> trial.
>> 
>> 
>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
>> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>> 
>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
>> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
>> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
>> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
>> 
>> 
>> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
>> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>> 
>> 
>> It doesn't work!
>> 
>> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
>> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
>> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
>> come up.
>> 
>> 
>> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
>> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
>> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
>> the menu.
>> 
>> So how hard can it be?
>> 
>> 
>> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
>> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
>> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
>> 
>> 
>> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
>> Even if many of you already knew all this.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a funeral, and 
haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Kliphton, and list,
> 
> 
> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning 
> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
> 
> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to 
> be a bit odd.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now, 
> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember 
> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
> 
> 
> Here is where things get interesting.
> 
> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to 
> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as 
> well. But I don't remember for sure.
> 
> 
> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a 
> show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start 
> time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an 
> option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I 
> learned it was an episode of Nashville.
> 
> 
> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I 
> think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.
> 
> 
> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where the 
>> channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and 
>>> if you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
>>> adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is 
>>> a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
>>> voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
>>> down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going 
>>> threw them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to 
>>> watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it 
>>> was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a 
>>> little getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it 
>>> until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, I am 
>>> gone!  They will be offering more channels for less. HTH
 On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
 
 When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
 provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through 
 the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others 
 when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was 
 interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my 
 time.
 
 -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
 Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Sling tv
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 
 I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
 than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
 trial.
 
 
 I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
 website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
 he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
 
 I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
 let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
 their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
 said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
 
 
 So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
 was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
 
 
 It doesn't work!
 
 I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
 of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
 Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
 come up.
 
 
 I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
 this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
 mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
 the menu.
 
 So how hard can it be?
 
 
 I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
 than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
 nothing there at all. 

Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Kliphton, and list,


Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning 
on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.

I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to 
be a bit odd.


Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now, 
search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember 
what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.


Here is where things get interesting.

I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to 
hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as 
well. But I don't remember for sure.


It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a 
show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start 
time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an 
option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I 
learned it was an episode of Nashville.


I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I 
think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.


I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.


Terri


On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where the 
> channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>>
>> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
>> you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
>> adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is 
>> a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
>> voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
>> down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going 
>> threw them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to 
>> watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it 
>> was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a 
>> little getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it 
>> until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, I am gone! 
>>  They will be offering more channels for less. HTH
>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>>
>>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
>>> provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through the 
>>> struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others when 
>>> they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was 
>>> interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Sling tv
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
>>> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
>>> trial.
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
>>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
>>> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>>>
>>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
>>> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
>>> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
>>> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
>>>
>>>
>>> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
>>> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't work!
>>>
>>> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
>>> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
>>> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
>>> come up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
>>> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
>>> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
>>> the menu.
>>>
>>> So how hard can it be?
>>>
>>>
>>> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
>>> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
>>> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
>>> Even if many of you already knew all this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>> Terri
>>>
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Re: Sling tv

[Andy Baracco]

That's not accessibility.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kliphton Miller

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sling tv

I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is 
a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going 
threw them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to 
watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it 
was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a 
little getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it 
until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, I am gone! 
They will be offering more channels for less. HTH

On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through 
the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others 
when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was 
interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my 
time.


-Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sling tv

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where the 
channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
> you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
> adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is a 
> list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
> voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
> down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going threw 
> them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to watch 
> TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 
> 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a little getting 
> use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it until direct TV 
> now launches its service next week, once it does, I am gone!  They will be 
> offering more channels for less. HTH
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they provide 
>> this kind of information so others will know and not go through the struggle 
>> and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others when they say 
>> something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was interested in 
>> Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my time.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Sling tv
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
>> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
>> trial.
>> 
>> 
>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
>> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>> 
>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
>> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
>> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
>> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
>> 
>> 
>> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
>> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>> 
>> 
>> It doesn't work!
>> 
>> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
>> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
>> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
>> come up.
>> 
>> 
>> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
>> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
>> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
>> the menu.
>> 
>> So how hard can it be?
>> 
>> 
>> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
>> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
>> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
>> 
>> 
>> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
>> Even if many of you already knew all this.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, adding 
favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is a list of 
channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by voiceover, but 
I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote down the ones I 
wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going threw them a few times, 
I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to watch TBS, I knew it was 14 
of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to 
watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a little getting use to, but that method 
worked for me.  I am only using it until direct TV now launches its service 
next week, once it does, I am gone!  They will be offering more channels for 
less. HTH
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they provide 
> this kind of information so others will know and not go through the struggle 
> and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others when they say 
> something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was interested in 
> Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my time.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sling tv
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
> trial.
> 
> 
> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
> 
> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
> 
> 
> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
> 
> 
> It doesn't work!
> 
> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
> come up.
> 
> 
> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
> the menu.
> 
> So how hard can it be?
> 
> 
> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
> 
> 
> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
> Even if many of you already knew all this.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi mama peach,

I totally agree with you really. It wasn't that I was not trying to listen to 
what other people had to say. I guess I was just hopeful. I'm missing not 
having some certain cable channels, so I just really wanted something to work.
Luckily, I really did not cause myself any stress. I was disappointed it didn't 
work. But nothing more than that. Plus, I didn't spend any money. So that made 
a huge difference. Now if I had spent money and it hadn't listened to what 
others had said, I would've really been upset with myself

But I just took the free trial, and I gave it a shot. It didn't work. So now I 
have to decide what I want to do. I don't mind not having cable. I really 
don't. If I could find a way to watch some stuff that I really would like to 
watch in other ways, I just do that. I don't mind helping antenna TV type 
stuff. Well over the air.
I already canceled my free trial. So all is good.

Thank you for your advice though, and your thoughts. I appreciate them as 
always.

Terri

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On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 9:07 PM -0600, "MamaPeach" 
> wrote:

When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they provide
this kind of information so others will know and not go through the struggle
and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others when they say
something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was interested in
Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my time.

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sling tv

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Sling tv

[MamaPeach]

When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they provide 
this kind of information so others will know and not go through the struggle 
and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others when they say 
something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was interested in 
Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my time.


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sling tv

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Yes Andy, you are so right. LOL! I think that is why the man on the 
phone sounded so shocked, when I mentioned I was blind. So many people 
say I listen to tv. That really gets to me.


Terri


On 11/12/2016 7:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> Well, don't you know that sighted folks don't think that blind folks 
> watch TV? LOL!
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sling tv
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
> trial.
>
>
> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>
> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
>
>
> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>
>
> It doesn't work!
>
> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
> come up.
>
>
> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
> the menu.
>
> So how hard can it be?
>
>
> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
>
>
> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
> Even if many of you already knew all this.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
>

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Re: odd behavior with the 7

[Marie Lyons]

I deleted the entries in the passcpcode field several times. It would say 0 of 
6 values entered when I finished deleting. I’d input them again and it only 
took 4 values. Well, it didn’t happen when I charged the phone overnight last 
night. As you say, I won’t worry about it unless it becomes a recurring 
experience.

Marie Lyons
> On Nov 11, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> 
> I haven't experienced this. When you entered your passcode, are you sure that 
> it didn't maybe already have a couple of incorrect digits entered and then 
> when you tried to enter the complete passcode it would just tell you that it 
> was an incorrect passcode after 4 more digits. Anyhow, if it is a once-off 
> thing I wouldn't worry about it, if it happens on a regular bases then of 
> course it requires more investigation. Make sure also your screen is clean, I 
> have seen very strange behaviour with touch screens that were dirty.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: odd behavior with the 7
> 
> Last night I plugged in the phone and left it charging overnight. In the 
> morning when it sounded the alarm I wasn’t able to turn it off. I could only 
> make it snooze by hitting the power button. I then discovered that the phone 
> wouldn’t recognize my fingerprint. It would only take 4 of my 6 digit 
> passcode. I did a (I think) hard reboot by pressing the power and down volume 
> simultaneously. When I input my 6 digit code it unlocked the phone. Has 
> anyone else experienced this?
> 
> Marie Lyons
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hand off

[Ann Byrne]

Can I make the Health app on my phone sync with the Health app on my 
iPod?  I have 482 steps on the iPod and 8976 on the 
phone.  Silly!  Hand off is turned on, but that doesn't seem to be the ticket.


Thanks.

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Re: Sling tv

[Andy Baracco]

Well, don't you know that sighted folks don't think that blind folks watch 
TV? LOL!

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sling tv

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Liner Notes

[Richard Turner]

Hi Tom,

A few, and I really mean a few, albums come with a PDF booklet when you buy 
them through iTunes Store.  They have some of what you are talking about.  I'm 
not sure they have everything the old liner notes used to have, or if liner 
notes are just not as complete as they used to be.
The Book of Mormon CD has a booklet.  Many of the songs are shown as 
"explicit," which is true.
 Holly Happy Days, a Christmas album by the Indigo Girls came with a digital 
booklet.  They are accessible and will download with the album, but you may 
have to open then in iBooks to get them to show up where you can read them.

HTH,
Richard


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Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Liner Notes



Hi all,
I use Apple Music on my iPhone a lot and have amassed a huge library including 
rock, classical, jazz, country, all kinds of good stuff.  It's a fairly 
eclectic collection.  When I open an album to play it, I notice a button which 
will show the artwork for the album, which, I presume, includes cover art and 
the like.  Way, way back when, when I used to buy vinyl albums and CD's, I used 
to sit down with an Optacon and read the liner notes that came with the album 
or CD, which was cool because I could look at such things as the personnel on 
the various tracks and even what kind of musical gear was used, et cetera.  Is 
there a way to get that kind of information through Apple Music?  I would 
absolutely love to get access to liner notes if possible. Any ideas? Thanks.
Tom
  Sent from my iPhone 7

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Re: Liner Notes

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

I've heart that some music you buy from the iTunes store comes with a 
'digital booklet' I assume this would have the information you used to get 
with the CD or Cassette tapes if any remember those.  but, I'm not sure how 
this would be accomplished on  just an apple music subscription.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Lange" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:59 PM
Subject: Liner Notes




Hi all,
I use Apple Music on my iPhone a lot and have amassed a huge library 
including rock, classical, jazz, country, all kinds of good stuff.  It's a 
fairly eclectic collection.  When I open an album to play it, I notice a 
button which will show the artwork for the album, which, I presume, includes 
cover art and the like.  Way, way back when, when I used to buy vinyl albums 
and CD's, I used to sit down with an Optacon and read the liner notes that 
came with the album or CD, which was cool because I could look at such 
things as the personnel on the various tracks and even what kind of musical 
gear was used, et cetera.  Is there a way to get that kind of information 
through Apple Music?  I would absolutely love to get access to liner notes 
if possible. Any ideas? Thanks.

Tom
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Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more 
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day 
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the 
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but 
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't 
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because 
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He 
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I 
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort 
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response. 
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not 
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to 
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I 
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read 
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse 
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is 
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all. 
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more 
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day 
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the 
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but 
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't 
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because 
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He 
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I 
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort 
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response. 
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not 
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to 
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I 
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read 
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse 
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is 
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all. 
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Accessible Apps for buying, saling, or even looking for housing?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I usually use Craigslist on my laptop, if I want to sale something 
locally, or if I want to purchase something. I have even found 
apartments this way.


I guess it's been a week since I last went to the site. I went there 
about an hour ago, as I would like to find another apartment.

However, the site was strange, and didn't make sense. When I went to 
view apartments, I saw all these numbers, instead of links that said 1 
bedroom apartment, and so on. I tried to enter on one of the links. But 
from what I could tell, nothing happened. So I am not sure what is going on.


I tell you all this long story for a reason.


Is there an app for Craigslist, that works with the Iphone, or Ipad?

How accessible might it be?


Also, if there isn't an App for Craigslist, are there other accessible 
Apps that offer apartment, or roommate listings, as well as other 
things. Such as computer stuff, and the like?


I have a sighted friend who uses offer-up, though I know this doesn't 
have a housing section.

I tried this on my Iphone a couple of months ago, and unfortunately it 
didn't seem accessible at all.


I mainly want a site that will offer a range of housing options, but 
more with private landlords. I don't like big management companies. 
That's a personal choice.


If anyone has any ideas for me, I would really appreciate hearing from you.


Thank you,


Terri

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Liner Notes

[Tom Lange]

Hi all,
I use Apple Music on my iPhone a lot and have amassed a huge library including 
rock, classical, jazz, country, all kinds of good stuff.  It's a fairly 
eclectic collection.  When I open an album to play it, I notice a button which 
will show the artwork for the album, which, I presume, includes cover art and 
the like.  Way, way back when, when I used to buy vinyl albums and CD's, I used 
to sit down with an Optacon and read the liner notes that came with the album 
or CD, which was cool because I could look at such things as the personnel on 
the various tracks and even what kind of musical gear was used, et cetera.  Is 
there a way to get that kind of information through Apple Music?  I would 
absolutely love to get access to liner notes if possible. Any ideas? Thanks.
Tom
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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Rich,

If you have the phone on a tripod you can definitely use sign language and then 
take the picture, just make sure the people you are photographing don't move 
once you have aimed the camera. The camera will auto focus on what it sees in 
the centre of te picture/view finder so if it's all lined up and the people 
them move a step or two to the side the picture will most likely not turn out 
good.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

thank you, sieghard and richard,

about automatic focus, you mean if I leave iphone in tripod, and I want to have 
good picture, I hit button on braille display and it will aim and do utomatic 
click in good position, not bad side?

about camera and video. I know that camera easily but it also includes video, I 
need to have it staying on tripod, then I can use sign language, will it do 
auto-focus? thank you!

sincerely,
rich


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

In the camera app you can change between back and front camera, by default it 
uses the back camera until you have a 3D touch capable iPhone and you use 3D 
Touch on the camera app where one option is "Take a Selfi", then it will 
automatically be set to the front camera.
I don't think in KNFB Reader you have a choice, it uses the back camera.
Always remember that sighted people want to see what they are taking a picture 
of on the screen, therefore the back camera is normally used when taking a 
picture of anything that is in front of you, you look at the screen and the 
camera points towards whatever you are taking a picture of.
If you are taking a selfi you still look at the screen, but then of course the 
camera has to be facing you and if you were to turn the phone around so the 
back camera would be facing you then a sighted person couldn't see what the 
camera shows on the screen. The front camera which is used for selfis or during 
Facetime or other video calls doesn't have to have the same good resolution 
because at best you are taking a selfi which is really close up and not 
something further away which a sighted person may want to enlarge digitally 
which is when the number of pixels matters. If you enlarge  an image with fewer 
pixels it gets grainier more quickly.

Regards,
Sieghgard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi,
If you are wanting a good quality picture, you want the back camera, which is 
the one on the back side of the phone, not on the screen side.

If you want to take a selfy, that is the front camera and it is lower quality 
than the back camera, so not good for quality photos or OCR.

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

Hi, I always get confusedThe side of the camera, is it front or back??

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Sandra,

There is absolutely no reason why a picture or KNFB result should be any 
different whether screen brightness is 0% or 100% or if the screen curtain is 
on especially with the rear camera.
The camera takes the picture and the screen displays it so at best a sighted 
person would not see the picture very good if screen brightness was very low 
and it was bright outside and of course they wouldn't see anything if screen 
curtain was on.
Just to make sure I am not spouting nonsense I just did 2 tests:


1.   I took a picture of a printed page with KNFB Reader, first with screen 
brightness at around 46%, then manually set to 0% and then with screen curtain 
on and still at 0% brightness. All 3 scans were read equally well and I could 
not detect any difference.

2.   I asked one of my employees to take a picture, again first at a normal 
brightness level, then with brightness at 0% and then with screen curtain on. 
Afterwards I put brightness back to auto brightness, opened the Photos app and 
asked her to look at the 3 pictures, she said they all were the same.

The above is true for both the back and front camera. One thing I wasn't sure 
about is whether the front camera which uses the LED backlighting for the flash 
would actually flash if the screen 

Re: Focus automatic in camera

[Paul Richard McGann]

thank you, sieghard and richard, 

about automatic focus, you mean if I leave iphone in tripod, and I want to have 
good picture, I hit button on braille display and it will aim and do utomatic 
click in good position, not bad side? 

about camera and video. I know that camera easily but it also includes video, I 
need to have it staying on tripod, then I can use sign language, will it do 
auto-focus? thank you!

sincerely, 
rich 


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

In the camera app you can change between back and front camera, by default it 
uses the back camera until you have a 3D touch capable iPhone and you use 3D 
Touch on the camera app where one option is "Take a Selfi", then it will 
automatically be set to the front camera.

I don't think in KNFB Reader you have a choice, it uses the back camera.

Always remember that sighted people want to see what they are taking a picture 
of on the screen, therefore the back camera is normally used when taking a 
picture of anything that is in front of you, you look at the screen and the 
camera points towards whatever you are taking a picture of.

If you are taking a selfi you still look at the screen, but then of course the 
camera has to be facing you and if you were to turn the phone around so the 
back camera would be facing you then a sighted person couldn't see what the 
camera shows on the screen. The front camera which is used for selfis or during 
Facetime or other video calls doesn't have to have the same good resolution 
because at best you are taking a selfi which is really close up and not 
something further away which a sighted person may want to enlarge digitally 
which is when the number of pixels matters. If you enlarge  an image with fewer 
pixels it gets grainier more quickly.

 

Regards,

Sieghgard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

 

Hi,

If you are wanting a good quality picture, you want the back camera, which is 
the one on the back side of the phone, not on the screen side.

 

If you want to take a selfy, that is the front camera and it is lower quality 
than the back camera, so not good for quality photos or OCR.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

 

Hi, I always get confusedThe side of the camera, is it front or back??

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:08 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

 

Hi Sandra,

 

There is absolutely no reason why a picture or KNFB result should be any 
different whether screen brightness is 0% or 100% or if the screen curtain is 
on especially with the rear camera.

The camera takes the picture and the screen displays it so at best a sighted 
person would not see the picture very good if screen brightness was very low 
and it was bright outside and of course they wouldn't see anything if screen 
curtain was on.

Just to make sure I am not spouting nonsense I just did 2 tests:

 

1.   I took a picture of a printed page with KNFB Reader, first with screen 
brightness at around 46%, then manually set to 0% and then with screen curtain 
on and still at 0% brightness. All 3 scans were read equally well and I could 
not detect any difference.

2.   I asked one of my employees to take a picture, again first at a normal 
brightness level, then with brightness at 0% and then with screen curtain on. 
Afterwards I put brightness back to auto brightness, opened the Photos app and 
asked her to look at the 3 pictures, she said they all were the same.

 

The above is true for both the back and front camera. One thing I wasn't sure 
about is whether the front camera which uses the LED backlighting for the flash 
would actually flash if the screen curtain was on. We went into a dark room and 
tried a picture with Flash set to automatic with the front camera once without 
and once with screen curtain on. My employee said the flash went off both times 
and the pictures looked the same.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

 

hi, I may be wrong, but certainly screen brightness will affect your 
photograph. for examples, to get a good shot with KNFB reader, I have to 
remember to turn brightness right up, Normandy, it is zero. this isn't true of 
all camera apps, but very difficult to predict which ones it affects and which 
ones it doesn't. same with the screen curtain, some barcode apps 

Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Donna]

Well...I can't say whether the battery draining problem is specific to the 
iPhone 6, a bug for those who have the iPhone 6 & running the latest IOS 10.1.1 
or if after 2 years my iPhone 6 battery just needs to be replaced. Being my 
contract with AT was complete & my phone is no longer under warranty; I 
decided instead of continuing to get frustrated with a rapidly draining battery 
or having to be connected to a wall charger all day, I went & bought myself an 
iPhone 7. The battery in the iPhone 7 is not draining rapidly. I have been 
using my iPhone almost continuously since noon (5 hours) listening to music, 
playing games, texting & searching Bard, my battery is now at 62%. I'm now a 
happy iPhone user once again!

Donna
> 
> hi,
> I may be wrong: but it seems to be the iPhone 6 that is more likely to be 
> affected by this bug. I have an iPhone 6. It is draining more than before, 
> but has improved since I turned off location based services, which I managed 
> to switch on in the setup process. it is now acceptable, but not as good as 
> before…
> 
> thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 23:54, Paul and Paula Jordan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running an IPhone 6 with IOS 10.1.1.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and Boston
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>> 
>> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>> 
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
 
 Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
 problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
 
 Donna
> Hello Donna,
> 
> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
> the battery drain.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
>> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>> out of ideas!
>> 
>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>> 
>> Donna
>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>> and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
>>> which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
>>> I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: calendar problem?

[Tom Lange]

You're quite welcome; glad I could help. Those picker items can be confusing 
and frustrating until you learn when and where they typically appear and how 
they are supposed to behave. 
Tom

Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom, thank you I did everything you said and works fine now.  
> Thanks so much for your wisdom and help.  Andy and Shubert
>  
> From: Tom Lange
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 12:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: calendar problem?
>  
> Hi,
> I just tried adding an event in the calendar app and it worked fine. When you 
> tap on the date or time, it seems like nothing's happening but when you do 
> that, a picker item shows further down the screen; you flick up or down on 
> the picker item(s) until you get the value that you want. Go back up the 
> screen, double-tap on the next item that you want to change, manipulate its 
> corresponding picker item, and so on. When you're done, double-tap the Add 
> button at the top righthand corner of the screen below the status bar. That 
> should do the trick. Hope this helps.
> Tom
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I am using the iPhone 6s with the latest ios 10 plus.  I am trying to 
>> add a date to the calendar such as an energy audit for dec 15, 10:00am.  
>> When I get to the date and time, voice over says, tap twice to change.  It 
>> doesn’t work... I know I had no problem in the past but, now Can it be a 
>> bug with this version of ios?  anyone else experience a problem editing 
>> within the calendar?  Andy and Shubert
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
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>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In the camera app you can change between back and front camera, by default it 
uses the back camera until you have a 3D touch capable iPhone and you use 3D 
Touch on the camera app where one option is "Take a Selfi", then it will 
automatically be set to the front camera.
I don't think in KNFB Reader you have a choice, it uses the back camera.
Always remember that sighted people want to see what they are taking a picture 
of on the screen, therefore the back camera is normally used when taking a 
picture of anything that is in front of you, you look at the screen and the 
camera points towards whatever you are taking a picture of.
If you are taking a selfi you still look at the screen, but then of course the 
camera has to be facing you and if you were to turn the phone around so the 
back camera would be facing you then a sighted person couldn't see what the 
camera shows on the screen. The front camera which is used for selfis or during 
Facetime or other video calls doesn't have to have the same good resolution 
because at best you are taking a selfi which is really close up and not 
something further away which a sighted person may want to enlarge digitally 
which is when the number of pixels matters. If you enlarge  an image with fewer 
pixels it gets grainier more quickly.

Regards,
Sieghgard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi,
If you are wanting a good quality picture, you want the back camera, which is 
the one on the back side of the phone, not on the screen side.

If you want to take a selfy, that is the front camera and it is lower quality 
than the back camera, so not good for quality photos or OCR.

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

Hi, I always get confusedThe side of the camera, is it front or back??

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Sandra,

There is absolutely no reason why a picture or KNFB result should be any 
different whether screen brightness is 0% or 100% or if the screen curtain is 
on especially with the rear camera.
The camera takes the picture and the screen displays it so at best a sighted 
person would not see the picture very good if screen brightness was very low 
and it was bright outside and of course they wouldn't see anything if screen 
curtain was on.
Just to make sure I am not spouting nonsense I just did 2 tests:


1.   I took a picture of a printed page with KNFB Reader, first with screen 
brightness at around 46%, then manually set to 0% and then with screen curtain 
on and still at 0% brightness. All 3 scans were read equally well and I could 
not detect any difference.

2.   I asked one of my employees to take a picture, again first at a normal 
brightness level, then with brightness at 0% and then with screen curtain on. 
Afterwards I put brightness back to auto brightness, opened the Photos app and 
asked her to look at the 3 pictures, she said they all were the same.

The above is true for both the back and front camera. One thing I wasn't sure 
about is whether the front camera which uses the LED backlighting for the flash 
would actually flash if the screen curtain was on. We went into a dark room and 
tried a picture with Flash set to automatic with the front camera once without 
and once with screen curtain on. My employee said the flash went off both times 
and the pictures looked the same.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

hi, I may be wrong, but certainly screen brightness will affect your 
photograph. for examples, to get a good shot with KNFB reader, I have to 
remember to turn brightness right up, Normandy, it is zero. this isn't true of 
all camera apps, but very difficult to predict which ones it affects and which 
ones it doesn't. same with the screen curtain, some barcode apps don't work 
when the screen curtain is turned on.

just my observations,
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 Nov 2016, at 16:22, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Afik,

The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, if 
a sighted person is 

RE: Muting a call

[R Van Lant]

Thanks.  I’ll give this a try.  I couldn’t figure out how to get rid of the 
keypad.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Muting a call

Do you have the keypad on the screen? If so you have to first hide the keypad, 
the hide button is at the bottom right, if you can find the End Call button 
above the home buton you just have to swipe right once from there.
Once the keyboard is hidden the mute button is the top button, here is the 
bottons that are present, keep in mind that at the very top is the name or 
number of who you are calling followed by the call duration timer:

Mute
Keypad
Speaker
Add Call
Facetime Video
Contacts
End Call

Interestingly enough when I just did a test call to a regular toll free phone 
number the Facetime Video button was not showing as dimmed or unavailable, but 
obviously it wasn't working and when I tapped it I was kicked back to the 
keypad showing on the screen.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:49 AM
To: 'viphone List (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Muting a call

I’m on an iphone 6s and the latest IOS.  Once I’m on a phone call, I can’t seem 
to find the mute button.  Guidance please?


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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
If you are wanting a good quality picture, you want the back camera, which is 
the one on the back side of the phone, not on the screen side.

If you want to take a selfy, that is the front camera and it is lower quality 
than the back camera, so not good for quality photos or OCR.

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

Hi, I always get confusedThe side of the camera, is it front or back??

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Sandra,

There is absolutely no reason why a picture or KNFB result should be any 
different whether screen brightness is 0% or 100% or if the screen curtain is 
on especially with the rear camera.
The camera takes the picture and the screen displays it so at best a sighted 
person would not see the picture very good if screen brightness was very low 
and it was bright outside and of course they wouldn't see anything if screen 
curtain was on.
Just to make sure I am not spouting nonsense I just did 2 tests:


1.   I took a picture of a printed page with KNFB Reader, first with screen 
brightness at around 46%, then manually set to 0% and then with screen curtain 
on and still at 0% brightness. All 3 scans were read equally well and I could 
not detect any difference.

2.   I asked one of my employees to take a picture, again first at a normal 
brightness level, then with brightness at 0% and then with screen curtain on. 
Afterwards I put brightness back to auto brightness, opened the Photos app and 
asked her to look at the 3 pictures, she said they all were the same.

The above is true for both the back and front camera. One thing I wasn't sure 
about is whether the front camera which uses the LED backlighting for the flash 
would actually flash if the screen curtain was on. We went into a dark room and 
tried a picture with Flash set to automatic with the front camera once without 
and once with screen curtain on. My employee said the flash went off both times 
and the pictures looked the same.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

hi, I may be wrong, but certainly screen brightness will affect your 
photograph. for examples, to get a good shot with KNFB reader, I have to 
remember to turn brightness right up, Normandy, it is zero. this isn't true of 
all camera apps, but very difficult to predict which ones it affects and which 
ones it doesn't. same with the screen curtain, some barcode apps don't work 
when the screen curtain is turned on.

just my observations,
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 Nov 2016, at 16:22, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Afik,

The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, if 
a sighted person is taking the picture or if you want a sighted person to help 
you line up a good shot.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera


Hi sieghard,

The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?

Thanks for this email.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Todd,

The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.
As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever it 
is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the screen 
where the auto focus area will do its job.
If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the face 
and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can try to 
move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where the auto 
focus area is located.

You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area 

RE: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

[Richard Turner]

Chip, with the latest iTunes, don’t even think about using it for getting MP3 
books into Voice Dream.  The accessibility of iTunes has gone completely down 
the toilet.
There is a way to transfer zip files with iTunes,  but it now takes a sighted 
person to do it unless you don’t mind a stupidly high number of trials and 
errors.
That is my take on it.  It used to be super easy with iTunes 11 and prior.

Take care,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

Thanks richard.  I’ll give it a try.

Also, thanks Dave, but I am not sure how to do this via Itunes without some 
more detailed instructions (I know how to get songs via Itunes moved over, just 
now a group of mp3 files which are a book; I don’t want them to end up in my 
music library.

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?


Hi Chip,
My favorite way is through DropBox.
Now, if you are using iCloud Drive and iCloud Sync with Voice Dream Reader, be 
aware that large audio files take a very long time to sync, so I would not keep 
them long in your library.
Also, if you have a book in mp3 format that has lots of chapters that are 
separate files, you want to first make sure they are labeled so they will play 
in order, then zip them into a zip file and name the zip file with the name of 
the book.
Then, put that zip file on Dropbox, for example, and then add it to Voice Dream 
from within Voice Dream.
Then, Voice Dream will treat it as a book with each file being a chapter.
It is quite slick.
HTH,
Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Chip Orange 
> wrote:
Hi,

Could I ask a question re Voice Dream?  I purchased it because I own a lot of 
books on mp3 files which I'd like to listen to; how do I get them to Voice 
Dream from my pc?

Thanks,

Chip



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Chapman
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:19 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: issues with voice dream reader?

HI.

i’m having some issues with voice dream reader.

I am running a 6 s with the latest iOS update.

Sometimes when I launch voice dream reader, I get a message saying that iCloud 
isn’t available.  Not sure if this is a connection issue.  Nothing will play 
after dismissing the message, until I reboot my phone.

The more annoying problem though, is this.
I have an audio  book which has 4 parts to it.  Each part is about 4 hours 
long.  I’m fine if I play the file straight through, but about an hour before a 
part of the book is about to end,  , If I try to rewind or fast forward I end 
up at odd places in the book.  It’s almost like at certain parts of the file, 
the rewind and fast forward act like I’m skipping by an hour or something.  If 
I skip forward too far, I end up at the next part of the book.  It also doesn’t 
tend to keep my place when it’s at  ,  the particular spot where i’m having 
problems.  I really love this app, but have had to resort to using downcast, as 
if the book is paused at problem spots, it jumps back or forward to the next 
part, and it’s impossible to rewind or forward to find where I was up to.  I 
was just wondering if anyone else has experienced these issues with audio 
books, before I write to the developer.

thanks
Maria

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Re: Focus automatic in camera

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, I always get confusedThe side of the camera, is it front or back??

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Sandra,

 

There is absolutely no reason why a picture or KNFB result should be any 
different whether screen brightness is 0% or 100% or if the screen curtain is 
on especially with the rear camera.

The camera takes the picture and the screen displays it so at best a sighted 
person would not see the picture very good if screen brightness was very low 
and it was bright outside and of course they wouldn't see anything if screen 
curtain was on.

Just to make sure I am not spouting nonsense I just did 2 tests:

 

1.   I took a picture of a printed page with KNFB Reader, first with screen 
brightness at around 46%, then manually set to 0% and then with screen curtain 
on and still at 0% brightness. All 3 scans were read equally well and I could 
not detect any difference.

2.   I asked one of my employees to take a picture, again first at a normal 
brightness level, then with brightness at 0% and then with screen curtain on. 
Afterwards I put brightness back to auto brightness, opened the Photos app and 
asked her to look at the 3 pictures, she said they all were the same.

 

The above is true for both the back and front camera. One thing I wasn't sure 
about is whether the front camera which uses the LED backlighting for the flash 
would actually flash if the screen curtain was on. We went into a dark room and 
tried a picture with Flash set to automatic with the front camera once without 
and once with screen curtain on. My employee said the flash went off both times 
and the pictures looked the same.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

 

hi, I may be wrong, but certainly screen brightness will affect your 
photograph. for examples, to get a good shot with KNFB reader, I have to 
remember to turn brightness right up, Normandy, it is zero. this isn't true of 
all camera apps, but very difficult to predict which ones it affects and which 
ones it doesn't. same with the screen curtain, some barcode apps don't work 
when the screen curtain is turned on.

 

just my observations,
Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 Nov 2016, at 16:22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  Hi Afik,

   

  The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, if 
a sighted person is taking the picture or if you want a sighted person to help 
you line up a good shot.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
  Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:55 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

   

   

  Hi sieghard,

   

  The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?

   

  Thanks for this email.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

   

  Hi Todd,

   

  The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.

  As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever 
it is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the 
screen where the auto focus area will do its job.

  If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the 
face and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can 
try to move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where 
the auto focus area is located.

   

  You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind person.

  Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a 
flower or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will 
still use auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.

  A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the 
screen by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it 
just once. If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would 

Re: calendar problem?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Tom, thank you I did everything you said and works fine now.  Thanks 
so much for your wisdom and help.  Andy and Shubert

From: Tom Lange 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: calendar problem?

Hi,
I just tried adding an event in the calendar app and it worked fine. When you 
tap on the date or time, it seems like nothing's happening but when you do 
that, a picker item shows further down the screen; you flick up or down on the 
picker item(s) until you get the value that you want. Go back up the screen, 
double-tap on the next item that you want to change, manipulate its 
corresponding picker item, and so on. When you're done, double-tap the Add 
button at the top righthand corner of the screen below the status bar. That 
should do the trick. Hope this helps.
Tom


Sent from my iPhone 7

On Nov 11, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:


  Hi, I am using the iPhone 6s with the latest ios 10 plus.  I am trying to add 
a date to the calendar such as an energy audit for dec 15, 10:00am.  When I get 
to the date and time, voice over says, tap twice to change.  It doesn’t work... 
I know I had no problem in the past but, now Can it be a bug with this 
version of ios?  anyone else experience a problem editing within the calendar?  
Andy and Shubert
  Andrew J. LaPointe
  Co-Chairman
  Salem Commission on Disabilities
  President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
  34 Raymond Ave.
  Salem, MA. 01970
  Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

[Chip Orange]

Thanks richard.  I’ll give it a try.

 

Also, thanks Dave, but I am not sure how to do this via Itunes without some 
more detailed instructions (I know how to get songs via Itunes moved over, just 
now a group of mp3 files which are a book; I don’t want them to end up in my 
music library.

 

Chip

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

 

 

Hi Chip,

My favorite way is through DropBox.

Now, if you are using iCloud Drive and iCloud Sync with Voice Dream Reader, be 
aware that large audio files take a very long time to sync, so I would not keep 
them long in your library.

Also, if you have a book in mp3 format that has lots of chapters that are 
separate files, you want to first make sure they are labeled so they will play 
in order, then zip them into a zip file and name the zip file with the name of 
the book.

Then, put that zip file on Dropbox, for example, and then add it to Voice Dream 
from within Voice Dream.

Then, Voice Dream will treat it as a book with each file being a chapter.

It is quite slick.

HTH,

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

Hi,

Could I ask a question re Voice Dream?  I purchased it because I own a lot of 
books on mp3 files which I'd like to listen to; how do I get them to Voice 
Dream from my pc?

Thanks,

Chip



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Chapman
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:19 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: issues with voice dream reader?

HI.

i’m having some issues with voice dream reader.

I am running a 6 s with the latest iOS update.

Sometimes when I launch voice dream reader, I get a message saying that iCloud 
isn’t available.  Not sure if this is a connection issue.  Nothing will play 
after dismissing the message, until I reboot my phone.

The more annoying problem though, is this. 
I have an audio  book which has 4 parts to it.  Each part is about 4 hours 
long.  I’m fine if I play the file straight through, but about an hour before a 
part of the book is about to end,  , If I try to rewind or fast forward I end 
up at odd places in the book.  It’s almost like at certain parts of the file, 
the rewind and fast forward act like I’m skipping by an hour or something.  If 
I skip forward too far, I end up at the next part of the book.  It also doesn’t 
tend to keep my place when it’s at  ,  the particular spot where i’m having 
problems.  I really love this app, but have had to resort to using downcast, as 
if the book is paused at problem spots, it jumps back or forward to the next 
part, and it’s impossible to rewind or forward to find where I was up to.  I 
was just wondering if anyone else has experienced these issues with audio 
books, before I write to the developer.

thanks
Maria

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RE: Muting a call

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have the keypad on the screen? If so you have to first hide the keypad, 
the hide button is at the bottom right, if you can find the End Call button 
above the home buton you just have to swipe right once from there.
Once the keyboard is hidden the mute button is the top button, here is the 
bottons that are present, keep in mind that at the very top is the name or 
number of who you are calling followed by the call duration timer:

Mute
Keypad
Speaker
Add Call
Facetime Video
Contacts
End Call

Interestingly enough when I just did a test call to a regular toll free phone 
number the Facetime Video button was not showing as dimmed or unavailable, but 
obviously it wasn't working and when I tapped it I was kicked back to the 
keypad showing on the screen.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:49 AM
To: 'viphone List (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Muting a call

I'm on an iphone 6s and the latest IOS.  Once I'm on a phone call, I can't seem 
to find the mute button.  Guidance please?


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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sandra,

There is absolutely no reason why a picture or KNFB result should be any 
different whether screen brightness is 0% or 100% or if the screen curtain is 
on especially with the rear camera.
The camera takes the picture and the screen displays it so at best a sighted 
person would not see the picture very good if screen brightness was very low 
and it was bright outside and of course they wouldn't see anything if screen 
curtain was on.
Just to make sure I am not spouting nonsense I just did 2 tests:


1.   I took a picture of a printed page with KNFB Reader, first with screen 
brightness at around 46%, then manually set to 0% and then with screen curtain 
on and still at 0% brightness. All 3 scans were read equally well and I could 
not detect any difference.

2.   I asked one of my employees to take a picture, again first at a normal 
brightness level, then with brightness at 0% and then with screen curtain on. 
Afterwards I put brightness back to auto brightness, opened the Photos app and 
asked her to look at the 3 pictures, she said they all were the same.

The above is true for both the back and front camera. One thing I wasn't sure 
about is whether the front camera which uses the LED backlighting for the flash 
would actually flash if the screen curtain was on. We went into a dark room and 
tried a picture with Flash set to automatic with the front camera once without 
and once with screen curtain on. My employee said the flash went off both times 
and the pictures looked the same.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus automatic in camera

hi, I may be wrong, but certainly screen brightness will affect your 
photograph. for examples, to get a good shot with KNFB reader, I have to 
remember to turn brightness right up, Normandy, it is zero. this isn't true of 
all camera apps, but very difficult to predict which ones it affects and which 
ones it doesn't. same with the screen curtain, some barcode apps don't work 
when the screen curtain is turned on.

just my observations,
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 Nov 2016, at 16:22, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Afik,

The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, if 
a sighted person is taking the picture or if you want a sighted person to help 
you line up a good shot.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera


Hi sieghard,

The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?

Thanks for this email.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Todd,

The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.
As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever it 
is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the screen 
where the auto focus area will do its job.
If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the face 
and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can try to 
move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where the auto 
focus area is located.

You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind person.
Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a flower 
or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will still use 
auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.
A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the screen 
by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it just once. 
If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would say “Focus 
locked” instead of “focus unlocked”. I have not yet discovered a way to “lock” 
focus when Voiceover is running, a double tap and hold doesn’t seem to do it, I 
tried a double tap and 

Re: calendar problem?

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I just tried adding an event in the calendar app and it worked fine. When you 
tap on the date or time, it seems like nothing's happening but when you do 
that, a picker item shows further down the screen; you flick up or down on the 
picker item(s) until you get the value that you want. Go back up the screen, 
double-tap on the next item that you want to change, manipulate its 
corresponding picker item, and so on. When you're done, double-tap the Add 
button at the top righthand corner of the screen below the status bar. That 
should do the trick. Hope this helps.
Tom


Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Nov 11, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am using the iPhone 6s with the latest ios 10 plus.  I am trying to add 
> a date to the calendar such as an energy audit for dec 15, 10:00am.  When I 
> get to the date and time, voice over says, tap twice to change.  It doesn’t 
> work... I know I had no problem in the past but, now Can it be a bug with 
> this version of ios?  anyone else experience a problem editing within the 
> calendar?  Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Co-Chairman
> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
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Muting a call

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I'm on an iphone 6s and the latest IOS.  Once I'm on a phone call, I can't seem 
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Re: Focus automatic in camera

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi, I may be wrong, but certainly screen brightness will affect your 
photograph. for examples, to get a good shot with KNFB reader, I have to 
remember to turn brightness right up, Normandy, it is zero. this isn't true of 
all camera apps, but very difficult to predict which ones it affects and which 
ones it doesn't. same with the screen curtain, some barcode apps don't work 
when the screen curtain is turned on.

just my observations,
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 12 Nov 2016, at 16:22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Afik,
>  
> The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
> uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
> screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, 
> if a sighted person is taking the picture or if you want a sighted person to 
> help you line up a good shot.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera
>  
>  
> Hi sieghard,
>  
> The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?
>  
> Thanks for this email.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera
>  
> Hi Todd,
>  
> The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
> camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
> picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
> not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
> the screen.
> As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever 
> it is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the 
> screen where the auto focus area will do its job.
> If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the 
> face and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can 
> try to move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where 
> the auto focus area is located.
>  
> You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
> area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
> photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind 
> person.
> Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a 
> flower or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will 
> still use auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.
> A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the 
> screen by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it 
> just once. If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would say 
> “Focus locked” instead of “focus unlocked”. I have not yet discovered a way 
> to “lock” focus when Voiceover is running, a double tap and hold doesn’t seem 
> to do it, I tried a double tap and hold and then to tap with another finger 
> and I tried force touch. On the other hand, if I toggle Voiceover off with a 
> triple click of the home button and then touch and hold somewhere on the 
> screen and the turn Voiceover back on, Voiceover will then say “Focus Locked”.
>  
> There are also third-party apps which allow for “manual focus” instead of 
> “auto focus”, but once again these would be of no use to a blind person and 
> the same applies to adjusting the exposure which you can do even with 
> Voiceover running if you double tap and hold and then slide a finger up or 
> down on the screen. Of course you don’t really know what exposure will be 
> best and here it is simply best to let the camera of the iPhone which is a 
> very good camera do it’s job and let it auto focus and auto expose the 
> picture.
>  
> For anybody who is interested to learn a bit more about how photography in 
> particular on the iPhone works even if many of the features require you to 
> see what you are doing, the below article explains this quite nicely:
>  
> http://iphonephotographyschool.com/focus-tips/
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Todd Patkus
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Focus automatic in camera
>  
> For those who have experienced taking photos using the iPhone’s camera, how 
> do I make the camera before taking a photo made to automatically focus on an 
> object when facing the camera in front of it?
>  
> What does it mean when it says Focus unlocked image?
>  
> That is concerning iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1.
>  
> Please let me know.
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Todd
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
I may be wrong: but it seems to be the iPhone 6 that is more likely to be 
affected by this bug. I have an iPhone 6. It is draining more than before, but 
has improved since I turned off location based services, which I managed to 
switch on in the setup process. it is now acceptable, but not as good as before…

thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Nov 2016, at 23:54, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> I'm running an IPhone 6 with IOS 10.1.1.
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
> 
>  What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
> 
> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>> ann,
>> Was this using iTunes?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>> 
>>> Donna
 Hello Donna,
 
 When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
 followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
 the battery drain.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
> out of ideas!
> 
> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
> 
> Donna
>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which 
>> is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I 
>> reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>> 
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Re: Focus automatic in camera

[gs]

Hmm. I had forgotten that screen curtain should be off when taking a screen 
shot. Guess that's why I had such bad luck with trying to solve a CAPTCHA 
recently.


On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Afik,
 
The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, if 
a sighted person is taking the picture or if you want a sighted person to help 
you line up a good shot.
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera
 
 
Hi sieghard,
 
The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?
 
Thanks for this email.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera
 
Hi Todd,
 
The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.
As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever it 
is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the screen 
where the auto focus area will do its job.
If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the face 
and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can try to 
move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where the auto 
focus area is located.
 
You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind person.
Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a flower 
or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will still use 
auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.
A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the screen 
by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it just once. 
If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would say “Focus 
locked” instead of “focus unlocked”. I have not yet discovered a way to “lock” 
focus when Voiceover is running, a double tap and hold doesn’t seem to do it, I 
tried a double tap and hold and then to tap with another finger and I tried 
force touch. On the other hand, if I toggle Voiceover off with a triple click 
of the home button and then touch and hold somewhere on the screen and the turn 
Voiceover back on, Voiceover will then say “Focus Locked”.
 
There are also third-party apps which allow for “manual focus” instead of “auto 
focus”, but once again these would be of no use to a blind person and the same 
applies to adjusting the exposure which you can do even with Voiceover running 
if you double tap and hold and then slide a finger up or down on the screen. Of 
course you don’t really know what exposure will be best and here it is simply 
best to let the camera of the iPhone which is a very good camera do it’s job 
and let it auto focus and auto expose the picture.
 
For anybody who is interested to learn a bit more about how photography in 
particular on the iPhone works even if many of the features require you to see 
what you are doing, the below article explains this quite nicely:
 
http://iphonephotographyschool.com/focus-tips/ 

 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Focus automatic in camera
 
For those who have experienced taking photos using the iPhone’s camera, how do 
I make the camera before taking a photo made to automatically focus on an 
object when facing the camera in front of it?
 
What does it mean when it says Focus unlocked image?
 
That is concerning iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1.
 
Please let me know.
 
Thank you.
 
Todd
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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Afik,

The screen curtain has no effect on taking pictures with the camera app which 
uses the back camera or, if you take selfis, the front camera. The only time 
screen curtain needs to be off is when you take a screenshot or, of course, if 
a sighted person is taking the picture or if you want a sighted person to help 
you line up a good shot.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera


Hi sieghard,

The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?

Thanks for this email.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

Hi Todd,

The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.
As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever it 
is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the screen 
where the auto focus area will do its job.
If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the face 
and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can try to 
move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where the auto 
focus area is located.

You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind person.
Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a flower 
or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will still use 
auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.
A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the screen 
by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it just once. 
If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would say “Focus 
locked” instead of “focus unlocked”. I have not yet discovered a way to “lock” 
focus when Voiceover is running, a double tap and hold doesn’t seem to do it, I 
tried a double tap and hold and then to tap with another finger and I tried 
force touch. On the other hand, if I toggle Voiceover off with a triple click 
of the home button and then touch and hold somewhere on the screen and the turn 
Voiceover back on, Voiceover will then say “Focus Locked”.

There are also third-party apps which allow for “manual focus” instead of “auto 
focus”, but once again these would be of no use to a blind person and the same 
applies to adjusting the exposure which you can do even with Voiceover running 
if you double tap and hold and then slide a finger up or down on the screen. Of 
course you don’t really know what exposure will be best and here it is simply 
best to let the camera of the iPhone which is a very good camera do it’s job 
and let it auto focus and auto expose the picture.

For anybody who is interested to learn a bit more about how photography in 
particular on the iPhone works even if many of the features require you to see 
what you are doing, the below article explains this quite nicely:

http://iphonephotographyschool.com/focus-tips/


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Focus automatic in camera

For those who have experienced taking photos using the iPhone’s camera, how do 
I make the camera before taking a photo made to automatically focus on an 
object when facing the camera in front of it?

What does it mean when it says Focus unlocked image?

That is concerning iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1.

Please let me know.

Thank you.

Todd
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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Afik Sofir]

 

Hi sieghard,

 

The screen curtain have to be on or off when using the camera?

 

Thanks for this email.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus automatic in camera

 

Hi Todd,

 

The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.

As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever it 
is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the screen 
where the auto focus area will do its job.

If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the face 
and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can try to 
move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where the auto 
focus area is located.

 

You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind person.

Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a flower 
or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will still use 
auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.

A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the screen 
by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it just once. 
If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would say “Focus 
locked” instead of “focus unlocked”. I have not yet discovered a way to “lock” 
focus when Voiceover is running, a double tap and hold doesn’t seem to do it, I 
tried a double tap and hold and then to tap with another finger and I tried 
force touch. On the other hand, if I toggle Voiceover off with a triple click 
of the home button and then touch and hold somewhere on the screen and the turn 
Voiceover back on, Voiceover will then say “Focus Locked”.

 

There are also third-party apps which allow for “manual focus” instead of “auto 
focus”, but once again these would be of no use to a blind person and the same 
applies to adjusting the exposure which you can do even with Voiceover running 
if you double tap and hold and then slide a finger up or down on the screen. Of 
course you don’t really know what exposure will be best and here it is simply 
best to let the camera of the iPhone which is a very good camera do it’s job 
and let it auto focus and auto expose the picture.

 

For anybody who is interested to learn a bit more about how photography in 
particular on the iPhone works even if many of the features require you to see 
what you are doing, the below article explains this quite nicely:

 

http://iphonephotographyschool.com/focus-tips/

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Focus automatic in camera

 

For those who have experienced taking photos using the iPhone’s camera, how do 
I make the camera before taking a photo made to automatically focus on an 
object when facing the camera in front of it?

 

What does it mean when it says Focus unlocked image?

 

That is concerning iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1.

 

Please let me know.

 

Thank you.

 

Todd

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Re: Network Connection In Progress

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Apple sending you the next version of iOs? It has to download at some point 
before it tells you iOs blah.blah is now available... 
and so on.

But yes, irritating as it is burning off your bandwidth without your permission 
again.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:57 PM
Subject: Network Connection In Progress


It makes perfect sense when this is in my status bar when I am doing something 
for it to be there. But sometimes, it is there when I 
am not. Perhaps it is left over from when I was doing something, but I assume 
the connection is still live. Even when I close 
everything in the app switcher, it is still there. The only way I can cancel it 
is to reboot my phone. Any ideas why it  is still 
there, and how to cancel it without having to reboot my phone?

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

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RE: Focus automatic in camera

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Todd,

The iPhone’s camera, just as many point and shoot cameras, is an auto focus 
camera. This means it automatically focuses on what is in the centre of the 
picture. This is why Voiceover say “Focus unlocked” it simply means focus is 
not locked to anything outside the auto focus area which is in the centre of 
the screen.
As a blind person all you can do is to try and focus the camera so whatever it 
is you are taking a picture of is hopefully about in the middle of the screen 
where the auto focus area will do its job.
If you take a picture of a person Voiceover will tell you when it sees the face 
and if the face is centred and if it says “face near left edge” you can try to 
move the phone a tiny bit to try and get it to be in the centre where the auto 
focus area is located.

You can force the camera to focus on something that is not in the auto focus 
area in the middle of the screen by tapping on it, but obviously this is a 
photography feature which is of limited or no use to a completely blind person.
Note that if a sighted person taps on something off to the side, maybe a flower 
or person that is not in the centre of the frame then the camera will still use 
auto focus and focus will still be “unlocked”.
A sighted person can also “lock” the focus on an object or person on the screen 
by tapping and holding on the object or person instead of tapping it just once. 
If somebody did that and then you turned on Voiceover it would say “Focus 
locked” instead of “focus unlocked”. I have not yet discovered a way to “lock” 
focus when Voiceover is running, a double tap and hold doesn’t seem to do it, I 
tried a double tap and hold and then to tap with another finger and I tried 
force touch. On the other hand, if I toggle Voiceover off with a triple click 
of the home button and then touch and hold somewhere on the screen and the turn 
Voiceover back on, Voiceover will then say “Focus Locked”.

There are also third-party apps which allow for “manual focus” instead of “auto 
focus”, but once again these would be of no use to a blind person and the same 
applies to adjusting the exposure which you can do even with Voiceover running 
if you double tap and hold and then slide a finger up or down on the screen. Of 
course you don’t really know what exposure will be best and here it is simply 
best to let the camera of the iPhone which is a very good camera do it’s job 
and let it auto focus and auto expose the picture.

For anybody who is interested to learn a bit more about how photography in 
particular on the iPhone works even if many of the features require you to see 
what you are doing, the below article explains this quite nicely:

http://iphonephotographyschool.com/focus-tips/


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Focus automatic in camera

For those who have experienced taking photos using the iPhone’s camera, how do 
I make the camera before taking a photo made to automatically focus on an 
object when facing the camera in front of it?

What does it mean when it says Focus unlocked image?

That is concerning iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1.

Please let me know.

Thank you.

Todd
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Focus automatic in camera

[Todd Patkus]

For those who have experienced taking photos using the iPhone's camera, how
do I make the camera before taking a photo made to automatically focus on an
object when facing the camera in front of it?

 

What does it mean when it says Focus unlocked image?

 

That is concerning iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1.

 

Please let me know.

 

Thank you.

 

Todd

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RE: Network Connection In Progress

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Arnold,

Maybe check in Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services. This 
is at the end of location services and I would turn off most of what is in 
there except of course Find my iPhone and so on. But there are things like 
traffic, frequent places, cell network search, Wi-fi Network search, automatic 
time zone and all of that which you can turn off, maybe that makes a difference 
as far as the message in the status bar that your Wi-Fi connection is active.
Also make sure you go to Settings > Cellular and again almost at the bottom 
above Reset make sure WiFi Assist is turned off. This is more to protect 
yourself from using excessive cellular data since this setting means that if it 
is on your cellular data/connection is used to make up for situations when your 
WiFi signal is poor. I just realized when I checked it that it is on on my 
phone, I received a warranty replacement a couple of weeks ago and this setting 
is on by default and I hadn't turned it off yet. However, looking at the amount 
of data used, 3.8 Mb, it is very minor as this was over a two-week period.
Lastly, make sure you don't, for some reason, have Personal Hotspot on.

Regards,
Sieghard

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It makes perfect sense when this is in my status bar when I am doing something 
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left over from when I was doing something, but I assume the connection is still 
live. Even when I close everything in the app switcher, it is still there. The 
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Re: Comcast app to notify/forward voice mail?

[Ann Byrne]

thanks.  I'm just looking for notification when a voicemail appears 
on the phone.


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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 7:10 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> thanks, Deb.  I prefer not to use the phone for email, since I 
get way too much to keep up with and a voicemail notification would 
just get buried.  I am looking for a text notification.

> At 10:55 PM 11/10/2016, you wrote:
>> It's not an app. It's just part of the online settings for Comcast.
>> Works really well. Just go to settings in your account and turn on the
>> email notifications for voicemails.
>>
>> On 11/10/16, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> > Is there a Comcast app that will notify me when I get voicemail on
>> > our land line and allow me to read it on my phone?
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Re: Questions on ICloud

[Bill Gallik]

Hi Sherrie,

I apologize for taking so long to get back to you  on your question!  Honestly, 
I have no idea how you could select and unselect data app specific to store on 
iCloud.

Have you tried calling Apple Support with this perplexing issue?

BTW: When you get that solved would you please forward the answer on to yours 
truly?

Best of luck resolving this and, again, apologies for my procrastination!!!

Bill & Leader Dog Holland
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> On Oct 20, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Sherrie  wrote:
> 
> I pay the $.99 a month for the 50 G iCloud plan but I can’t seem to pick what 
> I want it to back up, data wise.  Under Settings, General, Storage and iCloud 
> it just lists several apps in the backup other than the regular photos, 
> reminders, etc.
> How can I choose which apps I want backed up instead? For example, it backs 
> up Prizmo but not KNFB and I never us Prizmo any more
> It is worth the 99 cents a month just to be sure all my other basic stuff is 
> backed up but I have 43 G of storage not used.
> Thanks,
> Sherrie
> .
>  
> 
>  
> From: Bill Gallik <>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 9:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: Questions on ICloud
>  
> You should go into “Settings,” select the “iCloud” item and clean up your 
> data usage.  I can’t give you step by step instructions, but most likely you 
> have a number of items being stored “on the cloud” that you really don’t 
> need, delete these  extraneous items and that annoying message will stop.
> 
> 
> 
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>> On Oct 20, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Tom Rash < <>dadnthed...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>  
>> What is the benefit to using iCloud?  Do you have to use it?  I have it and 
>> just keeps letting me know that my space is almost up.  Wants me to purchase 
>> more.  
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Network Connection In Progress

[Arnold Schmidt]

It makes perfect sense when this is in my status bar when I am doing something 
for it to be there. But sometimes, it is there when I am not. Perhaps it is 
left over from when I was doing something, but I assume the connection is still 
live. Even when I close everything in the app switcher, it is still there. The 
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there, and how to cancel it without having to reboot my phone? 

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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Leo Bado]

hmm, weird,
this is not happennning in my i phone SE.

El 12/11/2016 a las 03:11, Anne Robertson escribió:
> Hello,
>
> This has happpened on my iPhone SE and I know of it happening on an iPhone 5S.
> Mine is now working fine again so there is nothing wrong with the battery.
> I’ve had iPhones for over 7 years now and this is the first time I’ve had 
> this issue with a fairly new phone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 20:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>
>> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:

 Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
 problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

 Donna
> Hello Donna,
>
> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
> the battery drain.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
>>
>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
>> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>> out of ideas!
>>
>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>
>> Donna
>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>> and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
>>> which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
>>> I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>
>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

This has happpened on my iPhone SE and I know of it happening on an iPhone 5S.
Mine is now working fine again so there is nothing wrong with the battery.
I’ve had iPhones for over 7 years now and this is the first time I’ve had this 
issue with a fairly new phone.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 20:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
> 
> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>> ann,
>> Was this using iTunes?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>> 
>>> Donna
 Hello Donna,
 
 When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
 followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
 the battery drain.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
> out of ideas!
> 
> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
> 
> Donna
>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which 
>> is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I 
>> reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>> 
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Re: rapid battery drain problem

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paula,

I reported this issue to Apple Accessibility and they took my crash reports and 
said that there was definitely something strange going on.
Mine is an iPhone SE which was new in June. The problem started with iOS 10.1 
and continued with 10.1.1 but I fixed it both times by restoring to factory 
settings.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 19:42, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
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> Hi, all.  Just wondering, Is this something that should be reported to Apple. 
>  I’m thinking that it’s not an accessibility problem, so to whom should this 
> be reported?  Seems like several of us are having the same issues.  I’m 
> running IOS 10.1.1 on an IPhone 6.
> God bless!
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Re: Comcast app to notify/forward voice mail?

[Joseph Hudson]

Time Warner cable, has text message alerts enabled for voicemails, I don't 
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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 7:10 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> thanks, Deb.  I prefer not to use the phone for email, since I get way too 
> much to keep up with and a voicemail notification would just get buried.  I 
> am looking for a text notification.
> At 10:55 PM 11/10/2016, you wrote:
>> It's not an app. It's just part of the online settings for Comcast.
>> Works really well. Just go to settings in your account and turn on the
>> email notifications for voicemails.
>> 
>> On 11/10/16, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> > Is there a Comcast app that will notify me when I get voicemail on
>> > our land line and allow me to read it on my phone?
>> >
>> > thanks,
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