Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi everyone,


Ok in my opinion, this is getting just a bit silly! I'd like to choose a much 
different word. But I am not usually a rude person, and I am trying very hard 
to respect others, and their thinking.


First of all, I'm glad that hopefully on-demand will be coming next year. I 
honestly didn't expect that to happen right away. Nor did I expect to have some 
sort of cloud service,.


I personally don't feel I am taking crap! And I certainly don't feel I am being 
treated as though I was a black person back in the day. I feel that isn't even 
a conparison,.

I chose to try out this service, nobody held a gun to my head and made me. I 
decided to take the 7 day trial, and I will decide rather or not to keep it.


Personally, if I don't get my local stations, this isn't a huge deal to me. I 
can understand how it can be for some. But, due to not having cable for about 2 
years, I've been using an antenna anyway. So I just plan to use this for the 
local stuff I can't get from the App. That's just my choice.

Plus I like the idea of doing that, because I will still get my local CW, and 
My TV, Antenna TV, and ME TV. As well as Ion.

I hope that at one point they do carry CBS. But right now I have CBS 
All-Access. I realize not everyone can afford all these things, and I respect 
this. Honestly, if I didn't have a great roommate who split the bills with me, 
I would likely not have all I have.


We are a minority. You have to consider the fact that many people don't even 
think that we watch tv, or movies. So yes, we don't get considered in the 
making of streaming Apps, or having the option to use Pay-Per-view, or 
on-demand from most, or all cable companies. We have to have sighted assistance 
with these things.

Plus, if you think about it, you have to remember what channels are which with 
your cable provider. Even though you can enter a number and get there, you 
still have to remember which channel it is. So really, what's the difference?

Yes, I would like to have the channels numbered. Then I would just know right 
where I would want to go. But you can search for a channel, which I think is 
awesome! I did this last night, and it worked beautifully!


I'm really very sorry that so many people seem to be so fed up with this 
service already. That makes me kind of sad. It's new, it's not going to work 
perfectly, and it's definitely going to have it's problems and issues for a 
while. But to me this is normal, and to be expected. I don't think we should 
all feel that this is going to work flawlessly, and be accessible right from 
the beginning.

I do hope they make things better. I also hope that once so many people aren't 
signing up, and apparently trying to watch all at once, that the service will 
not get overloaded. These are things that just have to be worked out. I feel 
this will happen in time.


When it comes to the aspects of better accessibility, if we can figure out who 
to write, or discuss the situation with, we should most certainly do so. But if 
we go in to the situation as though we are entitled, then what good is that 
going to do us? You shouldn't want to do that, because you never get anywhere 
that way.

Making your voice heard, maybe more than once, and pointing out the areas that 
need fixing, or correcting is something we should most certainly do. But it has 
to be handled in the proper way.


It's like sieghard told me when I was attempting to use Sling Tv. If you want 
it to work so badly, and you feel so passionately about it, then do something 
about it. Maybe that wasn't exactly right. I have trouble quoting people. But 
that was close. He is perfectly correct, and this is what I myself desire to 
do. I feel this service deserves a chance.

You could barely do anything with Sling. I know, because I tried. I gave it my 
all, and the service, and tech support was just horrible!


So to me, even with all it's issues, including accessability issues, it's 
something worth striving for. I am glad they had a 7 day trial. At least if you 
are so disgusted with the service, you don't have to keep it.


That's just my thoughts on the situation. Good luck, and happiness to all of 
you who choose to stick with this for a while, and give it a chance. I think 
from what we all learn, and do, we can help each other.


Terri

On 11/30/2016 11:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
X you must be in an area where your local channels are actually owned by the 
network. If you aren't, then you won't get those channels. And how did you know 
that you were actually getting that channel? God knows it's not label. I guess 
you're supposed to just memorize what's on all the channels so you'll know what 
channel you're on. I am continuously amazed at the crap blind people will take 
without complaining. Kind of reminds me of what black people used to put up 
with.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Kliphton Miller 
> wrote:

I get my 

RE: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new look at the world

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I believe you have to say "Use this picture" to proceed.


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look at the world

Hi, list.

When the pictures taken, the app gives me several options but I am not sure 
whether I am supposed to do anything here, should I leave it alone or make a 
selection?
Thanks!

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> So far I have gotten some good results with this app.  When set to the text 
> mode, it was able to identify a jar as being blackberry jam, and it was able 
> to read the temperature display on the oven.
> 
> I agree that a repeat feature would be nice.  
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
> Evan Reese [ment...@dslextreme.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give 
> visually-impaired a new look at the world
> 
> No cost.
> I've done some testing on it, and for me at least, it doesn't work as 
> well as TapTapSee does.
> Quite a number of times it just quit when I gave it a picture. I would 
> wait for a description, and the app just closed itself. I don't mean 
> it stopped running, just went into the background like when you hit the Home 
> button.
> It's also more complicated to operate. First you hit the Take Photo 
> button, which apparently opens the Camera app. Then, you have to hit a 
> Take Picture button. Finally, you have to hit a Use Picture button 
> before it will try to identify what the picture is. Then it says 
> "loading" and you wait for a description, which, as I said, most of the time 
> I never got.
> I took the same pictures of several things using Identifi and 
> TapTapSee and TapTapSee was more informative overall and worked every 
> time, whereas, I did get a couple of descriptions from Identifi, but 
> the first one was nonsensical, and I didn't quite understand all of 
> the second one, which leads me to another disadvantage of this app, 
> you can't repeat anything. If you miss the description, you have to go 
> through the three step picture taking process all over again. There 
> are three settings in it, Text, where it will try to read the text on 
> something, High Accuracy Image, for a more detailed description, and 
> Low Accuracy for a more generic description. I tried the Text setting 
> with a jar of handcream and a bottle of something, which I didn't know 
> what it was. I got the nonsensical mumbling when I snapped a picture 
> of the jar of hand cream, and the app just quit when I tried the 
> bottle of whatever. Then I switched to High Accuracy and the app still 
> kept quitting. Then, I closed it and reopened it and took a picture of 
> a shelf of books with some papers lying on them. I got a description, 
> which I cannot recall and cannot get the app to repeat, and I did get 
> a description of a picture I took of some clothes lying on a chair, which was 
> about the same as TapTapSee gave me.
> I think this app still needs a good bit of work to catch up to TapTapSee.
> I'm still impressed with that apps abilities, and I've impressed many 
> sighted people with it as well. With its Text setting, Identifi has 
> the potential to do something TapTapSee currently doesn't, but it 
> isn't there yet for me.
> I'm using an iPad Mini 4 with 128GB, so memory is not an issue.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Casey
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give 
> visually-impaired a new look at the world
> 
> Hi is there A cost for this App and if so how much?
> 
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Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new look at the world

[fzlmahmood30]

Hi, list.

When the pictures taken, the app gives me several options but I am not sure 
whether I am supposed to do anything here, should I leave it alone or make a 
selection?
Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> So far I have gotten some good results with this app.  When set to the text 
> mode, it was able to identify a jar as being blackberry jam, and it was able 
> to read the temperature display on the oven.
> 
> I agree that a repeat feature would be nice.  
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Evan 
> Reese [ment...@dslextreme.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a 
> new look at the world
> 
> No cost.
> I've done some testing on it, and for me at least, it doesn't work as well
> as TapTapSee does.
> Quite a number of times it just quit when I gave it a picture. I would wait
> for a description, and the app just closed itself. I don't mean it stopped
> running, just went into the background like when you hit the Home button.
> It's also more complicated to operate. First you hit the Take Photo button,
> which apparently opens the Camera app. Then, you have to hit a Take Picture
> button. Finally, you have to hit a Use Picture button before it will try to
> identify what the picture is. Then it says "loading" and you wait for a
> description, which, as I said, most of the time I never got.
> I took the same pictures of several things using Identifi and TapTapSee and
> TapTapSee was more informative overall and worked every time, whereas, I did
> get a couple of descriptions from Identifi, but the first one was
> nonsensical, and I didn't quite understand all of the second one, which
> leads me to another disadvantage of this app, you can't repeat anything. If
> you miss the description, you have to go through the three step picture
> taking process all over again. There are three settings in it, Text, where
> it will try to read the text on something, High Accuracy Image, for a more
> detailed description, and Low Accuracy for a more generic description. I
> tried the Text setting with a jar of handcream and a bottle of something,
> which I didn't know what it was. I got the nonsensical mumbling when I
> snapped a picture of the jar of hand cream, and the app just quit when I
> tried the bottle of whatever. Then I switched to High Accuracy and the app
> still kept quitting. Then, I closed it and reopened it and took a picture of
> a shelf of books with some papers lying on them. I got a description, which
> I cannot recall and cannot get the app to repeat, and I did get a
> description of a picture I took of some clothes lying on a chair, which was
> about the same as TapTapSee gave me.
> I think this app still needs a good bit of work to catch up to TapTapSee.
> I'm still impressed with that apps abilities, and I've impressed many
> sighted people with it as well. With its Text setting, Identifi has the
> potential to do something TapTapSee currently doesn't, but it isn't there
> yet for me.
> I'm using an iPad Mini 4 with 128GB, so memory is not an issue.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a
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> 
> Hi is there A cost for this App and if so how much?
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi,

I am simply impressed by identify.  It could read Hindi text of course
not the whole thing but all the same.  The only worry I have is that
this may not be updated as it was created out of a hobby.  Let us see.

Ketan

On 12/1/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths,
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap.
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
>
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student
> on his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try
> TapTapSee, then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
>
>
>
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RE: about iWatch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pablo,

I have only had my Apple Watch for 3 or 4 weeks now and haven’t tried this, but 
doing a quick Google search brought up this article:

http://www.cultofmac.com/320234/how-to-navigate-using-only-your-apple-watch/

The author does not at all mention an iPhone, but I have a feeling that you 
still may need your iPhone with you. The reason why I think this is the case is 
because while the Apple Watch has a GPS receiver, it does not have storage to 
have Maps downloaded to the device and even on the iPhone, Apple Maps only 
works with a cellular connection. The Apple Watch Series 2 has GPS but not a 
cellular modem hence it has no way to access maps on a server unless it is via 
the iPhone. The built-in GPS receiver is, as Lois pointed out, primarily for 
fitness purposes. Apart from the fact that you can do phone calls via your 
Apple Watch and get notifications, fitness and health is a huge focus of Apple. 
I often go for walks with my dog or for a run and especially in the summer and 
if I’m running and wearing only shorts and a T-Shirt it’s a huge benefit if I 
can just have the Apple Watchon my wrist and still get the GPS accuracy for 
distance, speed and so on. Since the Apple Watch is also waterproof I don’t 
even have to worry if I take my dog to the river on a hot day and want to jump 
in with him for a swim.

I assume in a year or two or three Apple will figure out how they can give the 
Apple Watch cellular connectivity and still have at least a solid day of 
battery life and at that point you can most likely do even more with the watch. 
In any case, I will try the navigation thing tomorrow morning when I go to work 
if I don’t forget. I’ll just start the route and then put my phone in Airplane 
mode and see what happens. The Apple Watch does have some internal storage so 
who knows, maybe it is smart enough to download a the section of maps needed 
for the route via the iPhone once you start it, but I’d be really impressed if 
this were the case.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: about iWatch

I just talked to apple sales department. I asked them, if the apple watch  
series 2 has gps antenna, so I don’t need my phone around to know where am I?
They said, yes, you don’t need to have your iPhone around to use the gps 
capabilities.
I asked them, ok, if I don’t need my iPhone around to use the gps capabilities, 
I will be able to use maps and for example get the way  to somewhere just 
typing an address?
They said, no, to be able to do that you need to get your phone.
I said, so I don’t understand. What is the reason of that gps antenna then?
You said that I don’t need my iPhone to use the gps capabilities, but you are 
saying now that if I want to go to a store, I need my phone to tell to maps the 
address and start the way ?
So for what reason I want a iWathch with gps antenna?
They couldn’t answer my question.
So really, and I want to think that this lady wasn’t very aware about the apple 
watch . What are the usability of a gps antenna in a apple watch ?
Thanks guys,


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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Mary Otten]

X you must be in an area where your local channels are actually owned by the 
network. If you aren't, then you won't get those channels. And how did you know 
that you were actually getting that channel? God knows it's not label. I guess 
you're supposed to just memorize what's on all the channels so you'll know what 
channel you're on. I am continuously amazed at the crap blind people will take 
without complaining. Kind of reminds me of what black people used to put up 
with.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I get my local fox channel, and my local NBC channel.  Nobody will get CBS as 
> they haven’t signed on yet, I don’t watch anything on ABC, so didn’t look for 
> it.
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary, 
>>  
>> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
>> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
>> local stations are not available. 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
>> options
>>  
>> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth 
>> it. Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are 
>> you going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
>> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
>> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on 
>> demand" and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
>> on-demand program.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>>> it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
>>> help you out, you can reach me at
>>> kliph...@icloud.com
>>> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up 
>>> for the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
  
 Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. 
 Is there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to 
 have or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
 cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but 
 they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation 
 Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has 
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

Please remember that Identifi was also created to help us read those pictures 
with texts on Facebook. And that works pretty well. A number of people have 
tried it and reported this. 

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

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> How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
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> Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
> Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> 
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap. 
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> 
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
> his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
> then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Elise Ridout]

Hi there,
Is there a way to look for on-demand shows by genre? I can not find one? 
Eden

- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

>
>
> I really don't have that many favorites, maybe about 20 at most.  And I don't 
> have to memorize the channels, when you swipe right, it tells you what is on 
> currently, and you can swipe down to see what is coming on next.  I usually 
> can tell what channel it is by what is on.  Should we have to do that?  No, 
> but this is the norm for most new apps, and blind people are only 3 percent 
> of the worlds population, so developers don't feel obligated to make there 
> apps accessible.  Is that right?  Of course not, but what can you do?  JMO
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> > 
> > It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth 
> > it. Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are 
> > you going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going 
> > to memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to 
> > do that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on 
> > demand" and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of 
> > available on-demand program.
> > Mary
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  > > wrote:
> > 
> >> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> >> help you out, you can reach me at
> >> kliph...@icloud.com 
> >> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up 
> >> for the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> >>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app.. 
> >>> Is there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to 
> >>> have or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons 
> >>> I cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, 
> >>> but they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch 
> >>> Investigation Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an 
> >>> accessible app that has this channel? Thank you. 
> >>> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Kliphton Miller]

on demand is coming early next year.
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
> 
> IT looks like if you don't live in a market with local service, you can't 
> live Nbc Abc or Fox as far as I can tell from my scant perusal. I don't think 
> I will be keeping this as there seems to be no way to search for on-demand 
> shows by category. You could by network I suppose but what if I wanted to 
> find all the mysteries or dramas etc. Doesn't look do'oable or it's not 
> labelled. 
> lElise 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gordon  >
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:59 pm
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
> 
>> 
>> 
>> So does this work like the first incarnations of the dishes that we had back 
>> in the 90's? I live in Dallas and we get our local Fox affiliate. So would 
>> someone in a market that doesn't have a local Fox station get ours here? I 
>> remember having Direct TV back in the 90's and getting ABC from one of the 
>> New York stations and CBS came from California. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/30/2016 10:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not surprised about the local channels. From what I read leading up to 
>> this, those local channels that will be offered are those that are actually 
>> owned by the networks. In cases where it is a locally owned station that is 
>> affiliated with the network, forget it. And that probably means most of the 
>> country is in the "forget it" zone. I'm not even sure how you are supposed 
>> to know if you are one of the lucky ones or not. With no channel labeling, 
>> how would you know? Same for the regional sports networks. It is supposed to 
>> be dependent on your location. So here I am, in the area of the pac 12. How 
>> am I supposed to know if my local network is offered? The channel isn't 
>> labeled if it's there. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but this 
>> oversight is so basic that it deserves to be beaten. I just wish I knew whom 
>> to write at AT so I can beat it there.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mary, 
>> 
>> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
>> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
>> local stations are not available. 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
>> options
>> 
>> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth 
>> it. Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are 
>> you going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
>> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
>> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on 
>> demand" and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
>> on-demand program.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
>> help you out, you can reach me at
>> kliph...@icloud.com
>> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
>> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
>> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
>> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
>> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but 
>> they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation 
>> Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has 
>> this channel? Thank you. 
>> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Kliphton Miller]

I get my local fox channel, and my local NBC channel.  Nobody will get CBS as 
they haven’t signed on yet, I don’t watch anything on ABC, so didn’t look for 
it.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, 
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
>> help you out, you can reach me at
>> kliph...@icloud.com 
>> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
>> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
>>> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
>>> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
>>> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but 
>>> they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation 
>>> Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has 
>>> this channel? Thank you. 
>>> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Kliphton Miller]

I really don’t have that many favorites, maybe about 20 at most.  And I don’t 
have to memorize the channels, when you swipe right, it tells you what is on 
currently, and you can swipe down to see what is coming on next.  I usually can 
tell what channel it is by what is on.  Should we have to do that?  No, but 
this is the norm for most new apps, and blind people are only 3 percent of the 
worlds population, so developers don’t feel obligated to make there apps 
accessible.  Is that right?  Of course not, but what can you do?  JMO
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
>> help you out, you can reach me at
>> kliph...@icloud.com 
>> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
>> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
>>> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
>>> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
>>> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but 
>>> they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation 
>>> Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has 
>>> this channel? Thank you. 
>>> Elise 
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Julie Dawson]

How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: ViPone list 
  Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
  Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap. 
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard





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Re: identifi?

[Julie Dawson]

It is called iDentifi
Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of.



- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: November 30, 2016 5:53 PM
Subject: identifi?



i can't find it in the app store.

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Re: iDentifi

[Tom Lange]

Hi Richard,
I tried Identifi for the first time last night, then used it again several 
times today. Your suggestion is a good one which I definitely want to pass on 
to the developer. Thanks for the link, by the way. I also want to suggest a 
couple other things. First, I think it would be cool to be able to use either 
one of the phone's volume buttons or the power switch to snap the picture; when 
I double-tap the Take Picture button I sometimes move the phone a bit and there 
may be a chance that the picture that I'm taking might be skewed to some 
extent.  Also, since the app lets you access the camera roll or photo stream, 
it might be nice to add some extra integration whereby since it not only lets 
me load a picture into the app for identification purposes, why not let me 
decide if the picture is  worth keeping?  What do you think? Is that feasible?
Tom


Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I sent him a suggestion about having it repeat the description as well as 
> having it on the screen for review and to help out those using a braille 
> display.
> 
> I'd suggest others write in comments and requests.
> I found his formby following the link for the developer's web site in the app 
> details in the app store. I copied the link below.
> 
> 
> 
> http://getidentifi.com/support
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
>> The strange thing for me is that I get better results with TapTapSee taking 
>> pictures of the same things as with Identifi, so it can’t be my camera not 
>> being aimed properly.
>> I’ll try some more pictures, but not impressed so far.
>> Evan
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iDentifi
>>  
>> I have gotten excellent results as well.
>> Like any camera app, your results will depend on the quality of picture you 
>> take.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>>> it works fine!
>>> 
>>> it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.
>>> 
>>> I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iDentifi
>>> 
>>> Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I 
>>> even change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
 
 
 I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide 
 dog. Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador 
 retriever lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not 
 sure why you do not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? 
 I found nothing to change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. 
 Anyway, bewildered why I got good results since I have no idea how to take 
 a picture, how far away, what to put something  on to take a clear 
 picture, etc. Pics I have taken before generally are blury and dark. Maybe 
 beginner's luck? (smiley)
 
 
 Reggie and Lex
 
 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
 
 Hi Regina,
 What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
 Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so 
 far. I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but 
 I've left it for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info 
 from that one.
 It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences 
 with different devices.
 Evan
 
 -Original Message- From: regina alvarado
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: iDentifi
 
 Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
 salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said 
 dark plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It 
 told me ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company 
 name and code. Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will 
 tell you what is in your picture and then allow you to share it? I have 
 always been worried to share my pics I take as I have no vision to be 
 certain of 

Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Elise Ridout]

IT looks like if you don't live in a market with local service, you can't live 
Nbc Abc or Fox as far as I can tell from my scant perusal. I don't think I will 
be keeping this as there seems to be no way to search for on-demand shows by 
category. You could by network I suppose but what if I wanted to find all the 
mysteries or dramas etc. Doesn't look do'oable or it's not labelled. 
lElise 


- Original Message -
From: Gordon  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

>
>
> So does this work like the first incarnations of the dishes that we had back 
> in the 90's? I live in Dallas and we get our local Fox affiliate. So would 
> someone in a market that doesn't have a local Fox station get ours here? I 
> remember having Direct TV back in the 90's and getting ABC from one of the 
> New York stations and CBS came from California. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/30/2016 10:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> I'm not surprised about the local channels. From what I read leading up to 
> this, those local channels that will be offered are those that are actually 
> owned by the networks. In cases where it is a locally owned station that is 
> affiliated with the network, forget it. And that probably means most of the 
> country is in the "forget it" zone. I'm not even sure how you are supposed to 
> know if you are one of the lucky ones or not. With no channel labeling, how 
> would you know? Same for the regional sports networks. It is supposed to be 
> dependent on your location. So here I am, in the area of the pac 12. How am I 
> supposed to know if my local network is offered? The channel isn't labeled if 
> it's there. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but this oversight is so 
> basic that it deserves to be beaten. I just wish I knew whom to write at AT 
> so I can beat it there.
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary, 
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
>  
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Gordon]

So does this work like the first incarnations of the dishes that we had 
back in the 90's? I live in Dallas and we get our local Fox affiliate. 
So would someone in a market that doesn't have a local Fox station get 
ours here? I remember having Direct TV back in the 90's and getting ABC 
from one of the New York stations and CBS came from California.



On 11/30/2016 10:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I'm not surprised about the local channels. From what I read leading 
up to this, those local channels that will be offered are those that 
are actually owned by the networks. In cases where it is a locally 
owned station that is affiliated with the network, forget it. And that 
probably means most of the country is in the "forget it" zone. I'm not 
even sure how you are supposed to know if you are one of the lucky 
ones or not. With no channel labeling, how would you know? Same for 
the regional sports networks. It is supposed to be dependent on your 
location. So here I am, in the area of the pac 12. How am I supposed 
to know if my local network is offered? The channel isn't labeled if 
it's there. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but this oversight 
is so basic that it deserves to be beaten. I just wish I knew whom to 
write at AT so I can beat it there.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham > wrote:



Hi Mary,

In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to 
accessibility, local channels are not being offered in all markets. 
In the Albany, NY area, local stations are not available.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live 
streaming options


It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not 
worth it. Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, 
just how are you going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your 
favorite? Are you going to memorize all of those? Do you really think 
that everyone should have to do that? Oh and what about on-demand 
programming? I did a search for "on demand" and didn't get what I was 
hoping to get, that is a list of available on-demand program.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller > wrote:


it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would
like me to help you out, you can reach me at

kliph...@icloud.com 

takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I
signed up for the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd
appleTV4 by christmas.

On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout
> wrote:

Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the
Direectvnow app. Is there any other good method for streaming
i.e. meaning I don't have to have or pay for a cable box. As
bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I cancelled my
Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but
they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch
Investigation Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with
an accessible app that has this channel? Thank you.
Elise

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Hello Listers,

I am having a strange problem with my wifi on my iPhone SE.  When I power off 
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thanks

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Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[Mary Otten]

Well it could've been a one time thing. But what I changed in settings was the 
default which is to have it start playing as soon as the app opens, so I change 
that off. And mute when the app opens which I believe is set on, and I changed 
it off. Basically I changed any settings that I thought might affect voiceover. 
And I have not had that problem since. One good thing about the iPhone app is 
that a two finger double tap actually will shut the channel up if you need to. 
On the other hand, I think the iPhone app app is so screwed up that I can't 
imagine actually using it for anything. Maybe if I only had a very few favorite 
channels, and could figure out a how to add them, and B, how to change from 
Alta favored, I might use it. But as it is now, not going to happen. The Apple 
TV app, despite its major shortcomings, appears to be the best, because you can 
reliably move from the button where you would add it to a favorite to the 
button where you would play the channel to the button where it's going to 
announce the program, although it doesn't tell you the channel. So, if your 
memory is really good, or you don't like but a few channels, the Apple TV app 
could work for you. And then you get to ask AT for a discount, because it's 
really not accessible ha ha.
Mary

Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
>  
> Thank you so much. I have been on the phone with Apple Accessibility and AT
>  
> Do you know what settings I should change to prevent the problem from 
> happening again?
>  
> Best,
>  
> Lynda
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone
>  
> I thought that happened with my phone. Raise the volume. Just start hitting 
> that up volume. It will come back, at least minded. You have to go into 
> settings and change some things in there, or it might do it again.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> I was trying to register for directtvnow on my phone. It looked like I was 
> finally signed in to the app. My phone is totally locked up at this point. I 
> have a 6s+. I tried doing a reset holding down the home and power button. The 
> best I get is siri indicating vo is already on. I hear no clicks when moving 
> my finger on the screen and no vo reading anything at all. Any suggestions?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Lynda
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Mary Otten]

I'm not surprised about the local channels. From what I read leading up to 
this, those local channels that will be offered are those that are actually 
owned by the networks. In cases where it is a locally owned station that is 
affiliated with the network, forget it. And that probably means most of the 
country is in the "forget it" zone. I'm not even sure how you are supposed to 
know if you are one of the lucky ones or not. With no channel labeling, how 
would you know? Same for the regional sports networks. It is supposed to be 
dependent on your location. So here I am, in the area of the pac 12. How am I 
supposed to know if my local network is offered? The channel isn't labeled if 
it's there. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but this oversight is so 
basic that it deserves to be beaten. I just wish I knew whom to write at AT 
so I can beat it there.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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> it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
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> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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Re: split screen on iPad mini

[regina alvarado]

Mary, you understood what I was asking. I thought it was not possible to make 
things like settings look like iPhone so thanks for the confirmation. 
Appreciate it.


Reggie and Lex


On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have my iPad frozen in portrait mode. And I still get the split view in 
settings. So for instance in settings, down the left-hand side, you have the 
major categories like general etc. And then on the right-hand side you have 
those items that are relevant to whatever   major category has focus on the 
left. You're right about portrait mode not having the two sides for mail. I 
seldom use my iPad for mail, since the advent of iOS 10, where they broke two 
finger flick up functionality.
Mary


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> Are you by chance talking about split screen in apps?  If so, you can put the 
> iPad mini in portrait mode, and poof! The preview pain is gone. 
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>> I have an iPad Mini. Someone here asked about putting 2 apps, 1 on either 
>> side. I believe it was Mary who said with 2 apps it would confuse her. On my 
>> iPad on certain apps there is a split screen. Maybe I misunderstood Mary, 
>> but did you find a way to make the mini so it doesn't split the screen 
>> sometimes? It drives me batty and I usually return to my phone. Maybe my 
>> difficulty is because I started with iPhone, but if I could find a way to 
>> get the split screen off I would use it much more because the speakers are 
>> much better. Thanks for the responses even if the answer is I cannot change. 
>> 
>> 
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RE: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Mary, 

 

In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
local stations are not available. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

 

It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available on-demand 
program.
Mary


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it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to help 
you out, you can reach me at

kliph...@icloud.com

takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.

On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:

 

Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have or 
pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I cancelled my 
Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they don't offer a 
streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery Channel that is 
anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? Thank you. 
Elise 

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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Feliciano Godoy]

They are both great. I prefer TapTapSee's user interface more. They are both 
good to have for sure.

Feliciano

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I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
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RE: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[Lynda Ingraham]

Mary, 

 

Thank you so much. I have been on the phone with Apple Accessibility and AT 

 

Do you know what settings I should change to prevent the problem from happening 
again? 

 

Best, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

 

I thought that happened with my phone. Raise the volume. Just start hitting 
that up volume. It will come back, at least minded. You have to go into 
settings and change some things in there, or it might do it again.
Mary


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On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:

Hi Everyone, 

 

I was trying to register for directtvnow on my phone. It looked like I was 
finally signed in to the app. My phone is totally locked up at this point. I 
have a 6s+. I tried doing a reset holding down the home and power button. The 
best I get is siri indicating vo is already on. I hear no clicks when moving my 
finger on the screen and no vo reading anything at all. Any suggestions? 

 

Thank you, 

 

Lynda 

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RE: iDentifi results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

How do you know it doesn’t use crowdsourcing? I haven’t had time to read the 
app description, but does it in fact say it doesn’t? If it takes this long for 
it to come back with replies I wonder if that is the reason. I assume this does 
require an active internet connection to work?

Regards,
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Well I decided to try this app as I wanted one which didn’t use crowd sourcing 
as I get a bit nervous about what I am actually sending in my pictures and what 
might be there for someone to see and use in some nefarious way.

I took a picture of my daughter playing the piano and it said “Woman in light 
green long sleeve shirt playing piano in room.” Then I took one of a package of 
Milano cookies and it said “Dark chocolate Milano cookies Pepperidge Farms.” 
Pretty impressive. The only thing is that it isn’t nearly as fast as the 
YouTube demo was although it wasn’t really that slow either. I think it’s kind 
of fun.

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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[Mary Otten]

I did not use braille display when signing up. But if you did the free trial 
button, and then managed to find the package you wanted, and picked your credit 
payment method, credit card or PayPal, and then you got those offers for the 
one month or three months of pain advance, there was one that said something 
like no thanks. Hit that and you should be good to go.
Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
> 
> Hey there,
> As I use a braille display,
> 
> I have no interest in the Apple Tv. I'm honestly all thumbs except with the 
> keyboard and display. So, I'm not sure how well the app will work but my 
> problem right now is I can not find the free trial button that does not have 
> the Apple Tv. It seems to want to force me to sign up for that. I must be 
> doing something wrong.  - Original Message -
> From: Kliphton Miller  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:00 pm
> Subject: Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, 
>> and search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on 
>> the all channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as 
>> you swipe down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on 
>> what's currently on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want 
>> to add to favorites, swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click 
>> that and your done.  Voiceover won't tell you its checked, but it is.  Once 
>> you are done, back out of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe 
>> down to favorites and click there.  This will give you your favorites in 
>> alphabetical order.  Also, if you know what channel you want to watch, use 
>> the search, it is very helpful.  If anyone else wants to discuss this app, I 
>> can host a conference in the zoom app so we can exchange tricks and tips.  
>> Just let me know 
>> kliph...@icloud.com 
>> HTH
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
>>> share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
>>> for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
>>> please try not to take anything I say personally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
>>> that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
>>> trial is over.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
>>> this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.
>>> 
>>> I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
>>> Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
>>> this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
>>> channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
>>> things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
>>> watching.
>>> 
>>> Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
>>> looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
>>> the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
>>> away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.
>>> 
>>> If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
>>> I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
>>> where I then saw some options.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
>>> long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
>>> the shows that were coming up.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
>>> could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
>>> I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
>>> most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
>>> help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
>>> order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
>>> whatever that is, that someone mentioned.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
>>> were mentioned?
>>> 
>>> I guess just by trial and error, really.
>>> 
>>> Also, have they started the on-demand service 

Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[Mary Otten]

I thought that happened with my phone. Raise the volume. Just start hitting 
that up volume. It will come back, at least minded. You have to go into 
settings and change some things in there, or it might do it again.
Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> I was trying to register for directtvnow on my phone. It looked like I was 
> finally signed in to the app. My phone is totally locked up at this point. I 
> have a 6s+. I tried doing a reset holding down the home and power button. The 
> best I get is siri indicating vo is already on. I hear no clicks when moving 
> my finger on the screen and no vo reading anything at all. Any suggestions?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Mary Otten]

It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available on-demand 
program.
Mary


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> it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
>> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
>> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
>> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but 
>> they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation 
>> Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has 
>> this channel? Thank you. 
>> Elise 
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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[Mary Otten]

The fact that the channels are not named is a huge huge issue. When you have 
over 100 channels, you need to know what they are. What sighted person do you 
know who would put up with that for one second?
Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, 
> and search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on the 
> all channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as you 
> swipe down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on what’s 
> currently on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want to add 
> to favorites, swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click that and 
> your done.  Voiceover won’t tell you its checked, but it is.  Once you are 
> done, back out of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe down to 
> favorites and click there.  This will give you your favorites in alphabetical 
> order.  Also, if you know what channel you want to watch, use the search, it 
> is very helpful.  If anyone else wants to discuss this app, I can host a 
> conference in the zoom app so we can exchange tricks and tips.  Just let me 
> know 
> kliph...@icloud.com
> HTH
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
>> share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
>> for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
>> please try not to take anything I say personally.
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
>> that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
>> trial is over.
>> 
>> Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
>> this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.
>> 
>> I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
>> Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
>> this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
>> channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
>> things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
>> watching.
>> 
>> Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!
>> 
>> 
>> Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
>> looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
>> the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.
>> 
>> 
>> When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
>> away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.
>> 
>> If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
>> I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
>> where I then saw some options.
>> 
>> 
>> I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
>> long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
>> the shows that were coming up.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
>> could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
>> I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.
>> 
>> 
>> I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
>> most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
>> help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
>> order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
>> whatever that is, that someone mentioned.
>> 
>> 
>> Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
>> were mentioned?
>> 
>> I guess just by trial and error, really.
>> 
>> Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
>> might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
>> it in some way.
>> 
>> 
>> I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
>> that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!
>> 
>> I would like to know who to call for tech support. I want to see how 
>> they react, and what they might say.
>> 
>> However, the only number I can find to call, won't send me to tech 
>> support, or any help for that matter. It wants an account number, which 
>> I of course don't have. When I mention this to the automated system, she 
>> just doesn't get it. LOL!
>> 
>> So I have gotten absolutely nowhere in this area.
>> 
>> 
>> I do want to see how this App might work on my Ipad.
>> 
>> However, I feel it might be more difficult to manage, with the split 
>> screen. But I still plan to 

Re: Directvnow

[Mary Otten]

It turns out that the problem was undoubtedly "server busy." When I tried using 
my iPad to login, I got one of those server busy deals, and voiceover actually 
read it, unlike what happened on the Apple TV, where voice over read nothing. 
When my cited husband got home, I tried it, and the first time yielded one of 
those server busy notices, which VoiceOver did not read. The second time, it 
worked. So VoiceOver needs to read that message, and it didn't.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I used dictation.  But 1 thing you need to do, is when your done with your 
> pass word, click done, and then click sign in.  This will open the app and 
> live TV should start playing.
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, since I can't get into the DirecTV app, because every time I enter my 
>> password, which I know I'm doing right since it's I'm typing on a keyboard, 
>> I get put back into the password field. But isn't it true that the channel 
>> names are unlabeled? I suppose it's nice that they're sorted by channel 
>> name, but that means you have to memorize 100 or so channels in alphabetical 
>> order? Good luck with that. I haven't heard anything about voice activation. 
>> Or did you mean voice search?. When entering your password into the app on 
>> the Apple TV, did you use a Bluetooth keyboard or the on-screen keyboard? I 
>> actually tried with both. No go. And since I entered that same password in 
>> the iPhone app and the android app successfully, I am sure it isn't me miss 
>> typing.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:16 PM, pdllogan77 - GMail  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those of you trying out the AppleTV directvnow app ...  I’m finding 
>>> that the guide is the easiest way to look at things ... channels are  
>>> sorted by name .. and then moving to the right shows what is coming up.  If 
>>> you move to the left an unlabeled button needs to be entered twice to play 
>>> the particular show.  You can also go to the search and enter channel name 
>>> ...
>>>  
>>> One thing I’m not finding is from what I understand it should be working 
>>> with voice ... but not sure how that is activated and I can’t seem to find 
>>> anything anywere online ...  if someone has figured that out, please post 
>>> ...
>>>  
>>>  
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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[Elise Ridout]

Hey there,
As I use a braille display,

I have no interest in the Apple Tv. I'm honestly all thumbs except with the 
keyboard and display. So, I'm not sure how well the app will work but my 
problem right now is I can not find the free trial button that does not have 
the Apple Tv. It seems to want to force me to sign up for that. I must be doing 
something wrong.  - Original Message -
From: Kliphton Miller  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

>
>
> Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, 
> and search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on the 
> all channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as you 
> swipe down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on what's 
> currently on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want to add 
> to favorites, swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click that and 
> your done.  Voiceover won't tell you its checked, but it is.  Once you are 
> done, back out of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe down to 
> favorites and click there.  This will give you your favorites in alphabetical 
> order.  Also, if you know what channel you want to watch, use the search, it 
> is very helpful.  If anyone else wants to discuss this app, I can host a 
> conference in the zoom app so we can exchange tricks and tips.  Just let me 
> know 
> kliph...@icloud.com 
> HTH
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
> > share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
> > for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
> > please try not to take anything I say personally.
> > 
> > 
> > First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
> > that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
> > trial is over.
> > 
> > Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
> > this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.
> > 
> > I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
> > Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
> > this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
> > channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
> > things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
> > watching.
> > 
> > Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!
> > 
> > 
> > Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
> > looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
> > the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.
> > 
> > 
> > When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
> > away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.
> > 
> > If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
> > I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
> > where I then saw some options.
> > 
> > 
> > I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
> > long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
> > the shows that were coming up.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
> > could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
> > I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.
> > 
> > 
> > I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
> > most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
> > help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
> > order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.
> > 
> > 
> > I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
> > whatever that is, that someone mentioned.
> > 
> > 
> > Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
> > screen.
> > 
> > How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
> > were mentioned?
> > 
> > I guess just by trial and error, really.
> > 
> > Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
> > might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
> > it in some way.
> > 
> > 
> > I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
> > that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!
> > 
> > I would like to know who to call for tech support. I want to see how 
> > they react, and what they might say.
> > 
> > However, the only number I can find to call, won't send me to tech 
> > support, or any help for that matter. It wants 

comparing tap tap see with identifi

[pattigj1206]

Well believe me I am lousy at taking pictures,  just don't have the knack
for it, so for this new app to tell me that my picture of my dogs turned out
was amazing to me.

I never got that kind of result with tap tap see.

Perhaps it was beginners luck, I don't know, but I am sold, grin.

Patti

 

 

 

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Re: Directvnow

[Kliphton Miller]

I used dictation.  But 1 thing you need to do, is when your done with your pass 
word, click done, and then click sign in.  This will open the app and live TV 
should start playing.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, since I can't get into the DirecTV app, because every time I enter my 
> password, which I know I'm doing right since it's I'm typing on a keyboard, I 
> get put back into the password field. But isn't it true that the channel 
> names are unlabeled? I suppose it's nice that they're sorted by channel name, 
> but that means you have to memorize 100 or so channels in alphabetical order? 
> Good luck with that. I haven't heard anything about voice activation. Or did 
> you mean voice search?. When entering your password into the app on the Apple 
> TV, did you use a Bluetooth keyboard or the on-screen keyboard? I actually 
> tried with both. No go. And since I entered that same password in the iPhone 
> app and the android app successfully, I am sure it isn't me miss typing.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:16 PM, pdllogan77 - GMail  > wrote:
> 
>> For those of you trying out the AppleTV directvnow app ...  I’m finding that 
>> the guide is the easiest way to look at things ... channels are sorted by 
>> name .. and then moving to the right shows what is coming up.  If you move 
>> to the left an unlabeled button needs to be entered twice to play the 
>> particular show.  You can also go to the search and enter channel name ...
>>  
>> One thing I’m not finding is from what I understand it should be working 
>> with voice ... but not sure how that is activated and I can’t seem to find 
>> anything anywere online ...  if someone has figured that out, please post ...
>>  
>>  
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Re: identifi?

[Joney]

I find this to be an interesting app. For one thing, I showed it a picture, and 
it told me that I had a yellow lab with the red coat. I have a yellow lab 
golden retriever cross, so it was pretty close up. It's an interesting yet. 
I'll keep playing with it to see how it does. 

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He will  lead you through it."
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> i can't find it in the app store.
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iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Richard Turner]

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
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Link toidentifi US app store

[Donna]

Here is the link for the iDentifi app in the US app store. 

iDentifi- Object Recognition for Visually Impaired by Anmol Tukrel
https://appsto.re/us/vgIQdb.i

Donna
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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[Kliphton Miller]

Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, and 
search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on the all 
channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as you swipe 
down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on what’s currently 
on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want to add to favorites, 
swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click that and your done.  
Voiceover won’t tell you its checked, but it is.  Once you are done, back out 
of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe down to favorites and click 
there.  This will give you your favorites in alphabetical order.  Also, if you 
know what channel you want to watch, use the search, it is very helpful.  If 
anyone else wants to discuss this app, I can host a conference in the zoom app 
so we can exchange tricks and tips.  Just let me know 
kliph...@icloud.com 
HTH
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
> share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
> for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
> please try not to take anything I say personally.
> 
> 
> First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
> that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
> trial is over.
> 
> Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
> this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.
> 
> I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
> Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
> this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
> channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
> things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
> watching.
> 
> Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!
> 
> 
> Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
> looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
> the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.
> 
> 
> When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
> away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.
> 
> If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
> I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
> where I then saw some options.
> 
> 
> I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
> long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
> the shows that were coming up.
> 
> Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
> could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
> I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.
> 
> 
> I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
> most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
> help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
> order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.
> 
> 
> I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
> whatever that is, that someone mentioned.
> 
> 
> Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
> screen.
> 
> How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
> were mentioned?
> 
> I guess just by trial and error, really.
> 
> Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
> might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
> it in some way.
> 
> 
> I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
> that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!
> 
> I would like to know who to call for tech support. I want to see how 
> they react, and what they might say.
> 
> However, the only number I can find to call, won't send me to tech 
> support, or any help for that matter. It wants an account number, which 
> I of course don't have. When I mention this to the automated system, she 
> just doesn't get it. LOL!
> 
> So I have gotten absolutely nowhere in this area.
> 
> 
> I do want to see how this App might work on my Ipad.
> 
> However, I feel it might be more difficult to manage, with the split 
> screen. But I still plan to try.
> 
> I don't have any plans to put this on my Iphone, as that's just 
> personally not what I use it for.
> 
> 
> Anyone who is currently using this app, please let us know what you 
> learn, and what you find works for you. Or what might work in general. I 
> don't know about anyone else, but I would really appreciate this.
> 
> I will most certainly do the same, the best to my ability.
> 
> 
> Also, 

Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Kliphton Miller]

it’s really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to help 
you out, you can reach me at
kliph...@icloud.com 
takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTV4 by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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identifi?

[david gross]

i can't find it in the app store.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Directtv.now

[Kliphton Miller]

No, the appleTV4 retails at 150 bucks, after tax for the 3 months you are 
paying about 114 bucks, so you are saving a few dollars.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I think the Apple TV itself retails for close to the same as the 3 months 
> anyways, but I assume you need to decide on this before you decide to take 
> the trial? How does one deal with the captcha on the iPhone? 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mary Otten 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Directtv.now
>> 
>> You can sign up using Safari on your iPhone. Just be aware that a lot of the 
>> things that are "clickable" are not noted as controls presumably because 
>> they're not marked as such in the normal HTML way. So you have to be a 
>> little bit creative and guessing what you're supposed to double tap on. 
>> Shame on AT for their crappy excess ability, but you can do it. If you 
>> sign up, then they offer you the chance to get the Apple TV if you want to 
>> sign up for three months. All this is doable, although not in a 
>> straightforward fully accessible way.
>> 
>> Sent you prepay for those three months, and you cannot get a refund, that is 
>> you cannot cancel and get your money back, if you try it and don't like it. 
>> I assume that is because you will have been sent the AppleTV.
>>  from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brent Harding > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this 
>>> offer. I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this 
>>> offer?
>>> Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?
>>>  
 - Original Message -
 From: Kliphton Miller 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Directtv.now
 
 We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  Info 
 is below.  But today is the direct TV now app. 
 Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held 
 every Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph 
 Miller.  In this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New 
 devices, features, accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this 
 meeting in a app called “Zoom.  Download it here
 https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i 
 
 At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 
 participants, so it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments 
 are heard just keep it civil.
 to join this conference, click the following link
 
 https://zoom.us/j/652703259 
 
 As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If you 
 have any issues you can email me at: kastle...@icloud.com 
 
 Come and enjoy!
 
 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  > wrote:
> 
> I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem 
> to figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access 
> them frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature 
> does as well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the 
> bottom right of the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all 
> button, and an unsubscribe button. How do I use these?
> 
> Hope Paulos
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> down load it here
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their 
>>> Apple TV.
>>>  
>>> Fred
 - Original Message -
 From: Lynda Ingraham 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
 Subject: Directtv.now
 
 Hi Everyone, 
 I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a 
 way to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 
 Thank you, 
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Re: iDentifi

[Richard Turner]

I sent him a suggestion about having it repeat the description as well as 
having it on the screen for review and to help out those using a braille 
display.

I'd suggest others write in comments and requests.
I found his formby following the link for the developer's web site in the app 
details in the app store. I copied the link below.



http://getidentifi.com/support

HTH,
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:

The strange thing for me is that I get better results with TapTapSee taking 
pictures of the same things as with Identifi, so it can’t be my camera not 
being aimed properly.
I’ll try some more pictures, but not impressed so far.
Evan

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi

I have gotten excellent results as well.
Like any camera app, your results will depend on the quality of picture you 
take.
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Dave 
> wrote:

it works fine!

it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.

I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi

Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I even 
change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado 
> wrote:


I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide dog. 
Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador retriever 
lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not sure why you do 
not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? I found nothing to 
change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. Anyway, bewildered why I 
got good results since I have no idea how to take a picture, how far away, what 
to put something on to take a clear picture, etc. Pics I have taken before 
generally are blury and dark. Maybe beginner's luck? (smiley)


Reggie and Lex


On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:

Hi Regina,
What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've left it 
for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from that one.
It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
different devices.
Evan

-Original Message- From: regina alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iDentifi

Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan salt 
grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark plastic 
bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me ginger 
snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and code. Can 
these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you what is in 
your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been worried to 
share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I am taking a 
pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't see others' 
pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it is a fantastic 
app.



Reggie and Lex

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Re: iDentifi

[Lelia Struve]

Evan, I also have better results with Taptapsee.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> The strange thing for me is that I get better results with TapTapSee taking 
> pictures of the same things as with Identifi, so it can’t be my camera not 
> being aimed properly.
> I’ll try some more pictures, but not impressed so far.
> Evan
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iDentifi
>  
> I have gotten excellent results as well.
> Like any camera app, your results will depend on the quality of picture you 
> take.
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> it works fine!
>> 
>> it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.
>> 
>> I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iDentifi
>> 
>> Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I 
>> even change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.
>> 
>> Lelia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide 
>>> dog. Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador 
>>> retriever lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not 
>>> sure why you do not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? 
>>> I found nothing to change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. 
>>> Anyway, bewildered why I got good results since I have no idea how to take 
>>> a picture, how far away, what to put something on to take a clear picture, 
>>> etc. Pics I have taken before generally are blury and dark. Maybe 
>>> beginner's luck? (smiley)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reggie and Lex
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Regina,
>>> What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
>>> Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
>>> I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've 
>>> left it for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from 
>>> that one.
>>> It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
>>> different devices.
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: regina alvarado
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iDentifi
>>> 
>>> Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
>>> salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark 
>>> plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told 
>>> me ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and 
>>> code. Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an  app that will tell 
>>> you what is in your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always 
>>> been worried to share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of 
>>> what I am taking a pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I 
>>> couldn't see others' pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for 
>>> my wish it is a fantastic app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reggie and Lex
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Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Everyone, 

 

I was trying to register for directtvnow on my phone. It looked like I was
finally signed in to the app. My phone is totally locked up at this point. I
have a 6s+. I tried doing a reset holding down the home and power button.
The best I get is siri indicating vo is already on. I hear no clicks when
moving my finger on the screen and no vo reading anything at all. Any
suggestions? 

 

Thank you, 

 

Lynda 

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Now having problems with the DirecTV now app

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

Earlier I wrote to the list and said that I really liked the app, and it was 
working pretty well for me. And I explained a lot of my thoughts, and some 
issues I was having.
However, when I last used the app, it was about 12 o'clock. I played around 
with it for about 20 minutes. I thought it was cool. Well, just a little while 
ago, my friend tried to help me with that. Like I had mentioned I was going to 
ask her to do in my earlier posting. We have ran into a couple of issues.
We got it on A, when the app started up. That's just what it seemed to land 
on. I tried to switch the channel like I did before, and it wouldn't switch. 
Then came up a message saying that the service was temporary temporarily 
unavailable, and gave a code.
Then once I got it going again, I did a search, and I searched for discovery 
life. It found the channel, and it started to play the channel. I was trying to 
figure out if my friend could figure out how to add it to my favorites. But it 
was acting weird, not letting her really do anything, and then we got that same 
damn error message again! We tried a couple more times to mess around with it. 
I even signed out once, and signed back in. That seemed to help the issue that 
I had as well call it without telling me I had multiple streams going at once. 
I don't even know how that was possible. So I have given up for now. My friend 
will be back in the morning, and I asked her if we could try again. I am 
wondering if part of the problem is that maybe there are too many people trying 
to enjoy the app at once. I don't really know if that is the case, but I guess 
I will find out.
If anyone else has experienced problems like this, I would like to hear about 
it. If you figure out anyway to solve the issue, or if use, I would love to 
know about that as well. Thank you,

Terri

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RE: iWatch and iPhone?

[Jim Portillo]

Thanks so much, Robert!  I will get this immediately.

Jim

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ROBERT CARTER
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iWatch and iPhone?

 

Hi,

 

A company called Mystic Access

http://www.mysticaccess.com

has just published an excellent audio tutorial that covers everything that you 
need to know about using Apple Watch with VoiceOver.

 

Robert Carter

 

 

On Nov 29, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 > wrote:

 

There are a lot of great tutorial podcasts  on AppleVis, probably 20 or more. 
That’s the place I’d suggest to start. Keith Good luck

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:15 PM
To: Jim Portillo
Subject: iWatch and iPhone?

 

Good morning,

 

As a Christmas gift, I’m about to get an iWatch first series edition.  It’s a 
38 MM screen, which is fine for me because I’m totally blind.  Are there any 
tutorials or is there any advice for me before I go pick it up from the Apple 
Store?  I know it has VoiceOver, and that it can work with my iPhone 7, but 
what will I need to do to set it up?  I think the Apple Store will help me 
somewhat, but I know it will help knowing what I need to do.

Is it fairly easy to use, and are the gestures the same using VoiceOver?

Thanks.

Jim

 

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Re: Directtv.now

[Mary Otten]

There isn't a captcha on the iPhone. It looks like there is, but the buttons 
are dimmed, the text field is read only, and it says you've been verified after 
you check a box that says I am not a robot. You go through the motions of 
signing up for the free trial of whatever package you want, and then before it 
all goes through, you get a screen where you're able to pay for one month or 
three months in advance, thus obtaining an Amazon fire stick or the AppleTV. 
It's a little harder to describe then it is to actually do. The tricky part is 
knowing for sure that you have identified and properly clicked the package you 
want. And you are right, the $105 you will pay for the three months upfront 
will be a decent price for the AppleTV fourth-generation 32 that you will be 
getting.
Mary
 So it's kind of strange , but you don't need to worry about it, a good thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I think the Apple TV itself retails for close to the same as the 3 months 
> anyways, but I assume you need to decide on this before you decide to take 
> the trial? How does one deal with the captcha on the iPhone?
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Directtv.now
> 
> You can sign up using Safari on your iPhone. Just be aware that a lot of the 
> things that are "clickable" are not noted as controls presumably because 
> they're not marked as such in the normal HTML way. So you have to be a little 
> bit creative and guessing what you're supposed to double tap on. Shame on 
> AT for their crappy excess ability, but you can do it. If you sign up, then 
> they offer you the chance to get the Apple TV if you want to sign up for 
> three months. All this is doable, although not in a straightforward fully 
> accessible way.
> 
> Sent you prepay for those three months, and you cannot get a refund, that is 
> you cannot cancel and get your money back, if you try it and don't like it. I 
> assume that is because you will have been sent the AppleTV.
>  from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this 
>> offer. I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this 
>> offer?
>> Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kliphton Miller
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: Directtv.now
>> 
>> We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  Info 
>> is below.  But today is the direct TV now app.
>> Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held every 
>> Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller.  
>> In this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
>> accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
>> “Zoom.  Download it here
>> https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i
>> 
>> At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 participants, 
>> so it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are heard just 
>> keep it civil.
>> to join this conference, click the following link
>> https://zoom.us/j/652703259
>> 
>> As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If you 
>> have any issues you can email me at: kastle...@icloud.com
>> Come and enjoy!
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem to 
>>> figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access them 
>>> frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
>>> well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right 
>>> of the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an 
>>> unsubscribe button. How do I use these?
>>> 
>>> Hope Paulos
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  
  wrote:
 
 down load it here
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8
 
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
> 
> Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their Apple 
> TV.
>  
> Fred
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Lynda Ingraham
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Directtv.now
>> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a way 
>> to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 
>> Thank you, 
>> Lynda 
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Re: Philips Hue smart lights, WiFi smart switches and Instapod Smart Bluetooth cooking appliance

[Kevin Chao]

What is “A11Y”?
accessibility (11 characters between a and y in accessibility);
abbreviation that started on Twittter.

I was asking about home kit/SIRI support and whether Wemo
No, WeMo doesn't support Homekit; it's supported by other smart speakers
(voice user interfaces)

 products have it. It seems some companies are not interested at all in
supporting Apple home Kit
It's similar to the early days of browsers, mobile, and any other
platform/standard. Home and Voice are the current northstar

  and instead support Nest or some other standard which of course is their
decision and it’s no problem, but I amd probably many others who are
invested in iOS
  WeMo has a good iOS app that works with VoiceOver

   and have no plans to change are not going to buy these products.
   I found the IoT supported by Homekit to be limiting and have branched
out to more robust and operable solutions

I will only buy something which has Home Kit support going forward, if
I can’t find it now I’ll wait because I think in a couple of years
everything will be available.
There are other accessible home control interfaces that are winning this
race :)


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:04 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
>
>
> What is “A11Y”? I was asking about home kit/SIRI support and whether Wemo
> products have it. It seems some companies are not interested at all in
> supporting Apple home Kit and instead support Nest or some other standard
> which of course is their decision and it’s no problem, but I amd probably
> many others who are invested in iOS and have no plans to change are not
> going to buy these products. I will only buy something which has Home Kit
> support going forward, if I can’t find it now I’ll wait because I think in
> a couple of years everything will be available.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Kevin Chao
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:53 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Philips Hue smart lights, WiFi smart switches and Instapod
> Smart Bluetooth cooking appliance
>
>
>
> Hi *Darrin,*
>
>
>
> *The VoiceOver a11y issues in WeMo scheduling function has been brought to
> the attention of WeMo. They're committed to resolving it and delivering
> fully accessible home automation/scheduler in future update!*
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:10 AM Darrin Porter  wrote:
>
> Sieghard,
>
>
>
> With regards to Item no. 2, I own several WEMO devices which are made by
> Belcan. The IOS ap is pretty much accessable and allows me to schedule and
> control several devices. I own both wall switches and wall warts, e.g.,
> plug into an outlet and control whatever you plug into them. The AP is not
> great, but can be used by a totally blind person after a pretty steep
> learning curve defined by some unlabeled or mislabeled buttons and
> controls. That is just in the scheduling function. Turning things on and
> off via the ap is completely accessable.
>
>
>
> Darrin
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:31 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
>
> *Subject:* Philips Hue smart lights, WiFi smart switches and Instapod
> Smart Bluetooth cooking appliance
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am grouping a few items together in this message since they all have one
> thing in common, they are Wi-Fi or Bluetooth connected devices which you
> control via an app.
>
>
>
> I am basically interested in feedback on any or all of them from people
> who have used them. Specifically, here are a few questions I have:
>
>
>
> 1.   Philips Hue: anybody have any of these connected light bulbs and
> in particular how is the SIRI Home Kit integration working? I was hoping I
> could get a deal this weekend, but the only starter kits I saw on sale were
> the second generation ones which have just in the last week or two been
> replaced with the third generation. I think the bridge is actually
> unchanged, but the new third generation bulbs are supposed to reproduce
> colours a lot more accurately.
>
>
>
> 2.   WiFi switches: by these I mean switches you plug into a power
> wall outlet, you then plug in a device (heater, lights, coffee maker etc.)
> and you can turn the connected device on or off via the app or on a
> schedule. I am interested to know what brands people may have bought, does
> the brand you have support home kit and hence SIRI integration?
>
>
>
> 3.   Instapot: this has been discussed before, I think Mary has one.
> I think the app for this was accessible and I was curious as to whether it
> still is, has it become better or worse with respect to Voiceover
> accessibility and are all aspects and features of the app useable?
>
>
>
> I did find one good deal yesterday, the new Withings Body scale was on
> sale at BestBuy.ca for $99.99 instead of $149.99. I had 

Re: Directtv.now

[Brent Harding]

I think the Apple TV itself retails for close to the same as the 3 months 
anyways, but I assume you need to decide on this before you decide to take the 
trial? How does one deal with the captcha on the iPhone? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Directtv.now


  You can sign up using Safari on your iPhone. Just be aware that a lot of the 
things that are "clickable" are not noted as controls presumably because 
they're not marked as such in the normal HTML way. So you have to be a little 
bit creative and guessing what you're supposed to double tap on. Shame on AT 
for their crappy excess ability, but you can do it. If you sign up, then they 
offer you the chance to get the Apple TV if you want to sign up for three 
months. All this is doable, although not in a straightforward fully accessible 
way.

  Sent you prepay for those three months, and you cannot get a refund, that is 
you cannot cancel and get your money back, if you try it and don't like it. I 
assume that is because you will have been sent the AppleTV.
   from my iPhone

  On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:


I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this 
offer. I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this offer?
Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton Miller 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Directtv.now


  We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  
Info is below.  But today is the direct TV now app. 
  Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held 
every Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller. 
 In this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
“Zoom.  Download it here
  https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i


  At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 
participants, so it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are 
heard just keep it civil.
  to join this conference, click the following link

  https://zoom.us/j/652703259




  As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If 
you have any issues you can email me at: kastle...@icloud.com

  Come and enjoy!



On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:


I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot 
seem to figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access 
them frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right of 
the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an unsubscribe 
button. How do I use these?

Hope Paulos

On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  
wrote:


  down load it here 
  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8


On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  
wrote:


Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their 
Apple TV.

Fred
  - Original Message -
  From: Lynda Ingraham
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
  Subject: Directtv.now


  Hi Everyone, 
  I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there 
a way to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 
  Thank you, 
  Lynda 


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Re: Directtv.now

[Mary Otten]

You can sign up using Safari on your iPhone. Just be aware that a lot of the 
things that are "clickable" are not noted as controls presumably because 
they're not marked as such in the normal HTML way. So you have to be a little 
bit creative and guessing what you're supposed to double tap on. Shame on AT 
for their crappy excess ability, but you can do it. If you sign up, then they 
offer you the chance to get the Apple TV if you want to sign up for three 
months. All this is doable, although not in a straightforward fully accessible 
way.

Sent you prepay for those three months, and you cannot get a refund, that is 
you cannot cancel and get your money back, if you try it and don't like it. I 
assume that is because you will have been sent the AppleTV.
 from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this 
> offer. I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this 
> offer?
> Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kliphton Miller
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Directtv.now
> 
> We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  Info is 
> below.  But today is the direct TV now app.
> Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held every 
> Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller.  In 
> this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
> accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
> “Zoom.  Download it here
> https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i
> 
> At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 participants, 
> so it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are heard just 
> keep it civil.
> to join this conference, click the following link
> https://zoom.us/j/652703259
> 
> As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If you 
> have any issues you can email me at: kastle...@icloud.com
> Come and enjoy!
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
>> 
>> I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem to 
>> figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access them 
>> frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
>> well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right of 
>> the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an 
>> unsubscribe button. How do I use these?
>> 
>> Hope Paulos
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> down load it here
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8
>>> 
 On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
 
 Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their Apple 
 TV.
  
 Fred
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> I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a way 
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Re: Directtv.now

[Brent Harding]

I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this offer. 
I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this offer?
Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Directtv.now


  We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  Info is 
below.  But today is the direct TV now app.
  Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held every 
Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller.  In 
this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
“Zoom.  Download it here
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so it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are heard just 
keep it civil.
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On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:


I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem to 
figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access them 
frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right of 
the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an unsubscribe 
button. How do I use these?

Hope Paulos

On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:


  down load it here
  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8


On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:


Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their 
Apple TV.

Fred
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
  Subject: Directtv.now


  Hi Everyone, 

  I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a 
way to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 

  Thank you, 

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Re: iDentifi

[Evan Reese]

The strange thing for me is that I get better results with TapTapSee taking 
pictures of the same things as with Identifi, so it can’t be my camera not 
being aimed properly.
I’ll try some more pictures, but not impressed so far.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iDentifi

I have gotten excellent results as well.
Like any camera app, your results will depend on the quality of picture you 
take.
Richard



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On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Dave  wrote:


  it works fine!

  it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.

  I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.

  Dave.


  -Original Message- From: Lelia Struve
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iDentifi

  Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I 
even change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.

  Lelia

  Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado  
wrote:





I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide 
dog. Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador 
retriever lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not sure 
why you do not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? I found 
nothing to change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. Anyway, 
bewildered why I got good results since I have no idea how to take a picture, 
how far away, what to put something on to take a clear picture, etc. Pics I 
have taken before generally are blury and dark. Maybe beginner's luck? (smiley)





Reggie and Lex





On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:



Hi Regina,

What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've left it 
for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from that one.

It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
different devices.

Evan



-Original Message- From: regina alvarado

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: iDentifi



Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark 
plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me 
ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and code. 
Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you what is in 
your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been worried to 
share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I am taking a 
pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't see others' 
pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it is a fantastic 
app.







Reggie and Lex



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Re: iDentifi

[Candie Stiles]

When I have gotten results they have been good, but it takes a while for them 
to come up. It would also be helpful if the results that were spoken were also 
written on the screen so if we didn't hear everything the first time or wanted 
to review them we could. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I have gotten excellent results as well.
> Like any camera app, your results will depend on the quality of picture you 
> take.
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
>> it works fine!
>> 
>> it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.
>> 
>> I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iDentifi
>> 
>> Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I 
>> even change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.
>> 
>> Lelia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide 
>>> dog. Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador 
>>> retriever lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not 
>>> sure why you do not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? 
>>> I found nothing to change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. 
>>> Anyway, bewildered why I got good results since I have no idea how to take 
>>> a picture, how far away, what to put something on to take a clear picture, 
>>> etc. Pics I have taken before generally are blury and dark. Maybe 
>>> beginner's luck? (smiley)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reggie and Lex
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Regina,
>>> What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
>>> Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
>>> I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've 
>>> left it for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from 
>>> that one.
>>> It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
>>> different devices.
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: regina alvarado
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iDentifi
>>> 
>>> Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
>>> salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark 
>>> plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told 
>>> me ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and 
>>> code. Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you 
>>> what is in your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been 
>>> worried to share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I 
>>> am taking a pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't 
>>> see others' pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it 
>>> is a fantastic app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reggie and Lex
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Re: iDentifi

[Richard Turner]

I have gotten excellent results as well.
Like any camera app, your results will depend on the quality of picture you 
take.
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Dave 
> wrote:

it works fine!

it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.

I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi

Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I even 
change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado 
> wrote:


I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide dog. 
Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador retriever 
lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not sure why you do 
not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? I found nothing to 
change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. Anyway, bewildered why I 
got good results since I have no idea how to take a picture, how far away, what 
to put something on to take a clear picture, etc. Pics I have taken before 
generally are blury and dark. Maybe beginner's luck? (smiley)


Reggie and Lex


On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:

Hi Regina,
What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've left it 
for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from that one.
It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
different devices.
Evan

-Original Message- From: regina alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iDentifi

Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan salt 
grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark plastic 
bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me ginger 
snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and code. Can 
these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you what is in 
your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been worried to 
share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I am taking a 
pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't see others' 
pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it is a fantastic 
app.



Reggie and Lex

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iDentifi results

[Karl Smith]

Well I decided to try this app as I wanted one which didn't use crowd
sourcing as I get a bit nervous about what I am actually sending in my
pictures and what might be there for someone to see and use in some
nefarious way.

 

I took a picture of my daughter playing the piano and it said "Woman in
light green long sleeve shirt playing piano in room." Then I took one of a
package of Milano cookies and it said "Dark chocolate Milano cookies
Pepperidge Farms." Pretty impressive. The only thing is that it isn't nearly
as fast as the YouTube demo was although it wasn't really that slow either.
I think it's kind of fun.

 

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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[David Goldfield]

Hi, Elise.

Comcast does offer a service called Stream TV, but it is only available 
in five states. The URL for the Stream TV FAQ is

https://customer.xfinity.com/help-and-support/cable-tv/stream-faqs

I can't answer specific questions about that specific service, as I know 
nothing about it other than what is in the FAQ.

Also, my X1 box doesn't make any background noise that I'm aware of. I'm 
wondering if you were provided with one which was either older or 
perhaps defective.


   David Goldfield,
   Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 11/30/2016 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout wrote:
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you.
> Elise
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Re: iDentifi

[Dave]

it works fine!

it is a matter of holding your camera, in the correct position.

I only got the app today, and i have had excellent results.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Lelia Struve

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi

Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I 
even change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.


Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado  
wrote:



I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide 
dog. Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador 
retriever lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not 
sure why you do not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? 
I found nothing to change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. 
Anyway, bewildered why I got good results since I have no idea how to take 
a picture, how far away, what to put something on to take a clear picture, 
etc. Pics I have taken before generally are blury and dark. Maybe 
beginner's luck? (smiley)



Reggie and Lex


On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Hi Regina,
What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so 
far. I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but 
I've left it for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info 
from that one.
It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences 
with different devices.

Evan

-Original Message- From: regina alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iDentifi

Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said 
dark plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It 
told me ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company 
name and code. Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will 
tell you what is in your picture and then allow you to share it? I have 
always been worried to share my pics I take as I have no vision to be 
certain of what I am taking a pic of. I would love to take pictures myself 
even if I couldn't see others' pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be 
used for my wish it is a fantastic app.




Reggie and Lex

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Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new look at the world

[Jewel]

The very first photo I took with Tap Tap See had me sold on it.
I aimed the camera at my clothes line that had my freshly-washed laundry upon 
it, or so I thought.  However, TTS ignored the washing * on the line, but told 
me that there was a blue cloth lying on green grass.  I was, thus, alerted to 
the fact that one of my blue bed sheets was, no longer, on the line, but was on 
the ground, not, precisely, green grass, but green weeds, but, as the saying 
goes:  "One man's trash is another man's treasure!"  so they may have been 
nuisance * weeds to me, but if me had been a bee, I might have found them a 
great source of nectar and pollen.

   Jewel


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The name was in the article. It is: iDentifi
Check the spelling so you have it correct when searching.
Richard



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On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales  wrote:


  But what is the name of this app?
  How can I  find it in the appstore?


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  Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a 
new look at the world

  In the app, you can either open a picture from your camera roll or take one 
from within the app.  Within the settings, you can even change the mode to 
either have a generic description, detailed description or text.  When 
selecting a mode, if you swipe to the right, there is a description of what the 
mode does and how long it takes for the photo to upload and return results.  So 
that is most likely the reason why it may have taken a little while before it 
read the description.

  The app is layed out very simply, the top left corner is a Settings button, 
the top right is an Instructions button, that when pressed a built in voice 
reads out the instructions on how to use the app.  The bottom left corner is to 
choose a photo from your camera roll, and it appears you can even select a 
photo from your drop box as well.  And lastly, the bottom right is the button 
to take a picture from within the app.

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iPhone as external drive on PC, was: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Chris,

If you want to see your iPhone as a drive on your PC and copy pictures this way 
you have to turn off iCloud Photo Library in Settings > iCloud.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:05 PM
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Subject: RE: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

Thanks folks,
Your suggestion and advice was very helpful.  I changed my apple ID email 
address and things seem to be normal.
I have another question though, In iOS nine and before, I used to be able to 
access parts of my iPhone as an external drive when I connect it to PC  for 
instance, I used to have access to the photos and videos.  Now in iOS ten, I 
cannot see my iPhone listed as one of the drives when I connect my phone to the 
computer.  Therefore, I no longer have direct simple access to the photos and 
videos as I did in the past.  Is there a setting to make my phone become 
visible again when connected to my computer?

Cheers,
Cris

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Hi Chris,

As others have pointed out it is no problem to change your Apple Id. 
Essentially your Apple Id is whatever email address you used when you set it 
up. The only time it would be a problem is if you absolutely cannot get back 
into your old account. If you can log in then do what Pablo suggested, log in 
with your old email address and password, then go to where it says "Change my 
Apple Id" and register your new email address. I think you will get a 
confirmation email you have to acknowledge, but it's pretty self-explanatory 
once you get started.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

Hello folks,
I want to change my apple id>  However, my understanding is that the apple Id 
is connected to the email address.  I no longer want to keep the same email 
address, which means I will have to change my apple Id.  The problem is that I 
am afraid if I log on to my iPhone and iPad using a new apple id would make me 
lose my purchased apps and books.  I have already invested several hundred 
dollars on these things and I do not wish to lose them, or lose access to 
updates.
Is there a way of changing apple id without causing such a mess?
I appreciate your suggestions>
Regards,

Cris.

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My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
please try not to take anything I say personally.


First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
trial is over.

Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.

I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
watching.

Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!


Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.


When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.

If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
where I then saw some options.


I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
the shows that were coming up.

Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.


I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.


I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
whatever that is, that someone mentioned.


Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
screen.

How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
were mentioned?

I guess just by trial and error, really.

Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
it in some way.


I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!

I would like to know who to call for tech support. I want to see how 
they react, and what they might say.

However, the only number I can find to call, won't send me to tech 
support, or any help for that matter. It wants an account number, which 
I of course don't have. When I mention this to the automated system, she 
just doesn't get it. LOL!

So I have gotten absolutely nowhere in this area.


I do want to see how this App might work on my Ipad.

However, I feel it might be more difficult to manage, with the split 
screen. But I still plan to try.

I don't have any plans to put this on my Iphone, as that's just 
personally not what I use it for.


Anyone who is currently using this app, please let us know what you 
learn, and what you find works for you. Or what might work in general. I 
don't know about anyone else, but I would really appreciate this.

I will most certainly do the same, the best to my ability.


Also, please try and keep in mind that this service just started. It's a 
baby, with a lot of growing to do.


Thank you for reading.


Terri

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RE: Apple Watch Series 1 Versus Series 2 Models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Daniel,

Which Apple watch do you have? I am also in Canada and recently bought a Series 
2 Stainless Steel 38mm watch. It was $699, but I also just ordered a 38mm Sport 
model for my wife for Christmas, it is also a series 2 and it is $489. If the 
$399 watch is a 38mm Sport model then it is only a $90 difference. For me it 
was a no-brainer, I am very active outdoors so the water resistance and the 
fact that I can go for a walk and especially run without my phone was 
definitely a selling point. I opted for the stainless steel model because it 
has a Sapphire crystal screen and I also do tend to bang into things a fair bit 
when I'm in my woodworking shop etc. so I wanted the extra toughness. I ordered 
the Sport for my wife because it's lighter and she is not as active and much 
more careful than me. Also she loves pink so I knew she definitely would pick 
the Rose Gold model.

Lastly, if you are looking at additional bands I absolutelly and totally 
recommend not to let Apple scam you with them. I think the Apple bands are the 
biggest rip-off in the entire Apple Store. To charge $50 Canadian or whatever 
it is for an extra rubber or braded nylon band is ridiculous and even more so 
is the extra $150 you pay if you upgrade to a Milanese Loop band and if you 
bought the watch with the sport band it comes with and then wanted a Milanese 
Loop band the price tag here in Canada is $209. A linked bracelet is even more 
and some of the leather loop or leather classic buckle bands are just a total 
joke. You can buy any of these bands on Amazon for 10 Cents on the Dollar or 
less. I ordered a silver and black stainless Milanese Loop band and they were I 
think about $15.99 and $16.99, respectively. I was at first concerned they 
would not be as good, but I checked out the bands at the Apple Store and when I 
received my Milanese Loop bands from Amazon I could not notice any difference. 
They are subtle, the magnet is strong and they feel and work great.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Hi Pam,

I struggled with the same delimma a couple of months ago.  I decided to go for 
the Series 1, as for my situation, it was a better fit.

The first item was the price, in Canada, the Series 1 is $399 while the Series 
2 is $629, about $130 more.

The second item was the brighter screen, being blind, not really a selling 
point.

The third item was the Water Resistance, I know that I don't plan on wearing 
the watch while swimming or showering.

And lastly, the built-in GPS.  Sure you can take walks with the Series 2 and 
don't need to carry your phone, but in my case, my phone is always with me, and 
that coupled with the $130 savings (which I put that towards an AppleCare plan, 
and with taxes, came about $5 less then the Series 2 watch alone before taxes.

As for performance, the Series 1 has the same processor as the Series 2, and 
not haven't played with the Series 2 personally, have heard that they both 
perform similarly.  David Woodbridge from Vision Australia did a demo of the 
original Apple Watch with the Series 2 and although you did notice a very small 
difference in performance, with Watch OS 3, both watches performed fairly close.

Now I've had the watch for a little over two months now and I don't regret it 
for a second.  But like I said, my situation is nothing like others.  The best 
thing I can suggest is to go to an Apple Store and play around with both to see 
for yourself and make a decision based on what works for you and your budget.

As for battery life, I've changed some settings in order to save on battery and 
have only enabled certain notifications, the most important ones I want to see, 
and have decreased the brighthess all the way down, and for me, I will 
typically come home at the end of the day with about 70% to 75%.  Now for me, I 
use the watch normally, occasionally checking my watch from time to time, but 
it will all depend on how you use it.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/11/29 2:13 PM
Subject:Apple Watch Series 1 Versus Series 2 Models

Hi All,

I am considering an apple watch, and would like to know if anyone has opinions 
on the Series 1 versus the Series 2 watch.

After researching, it appears that the main differences are that the Series 2 
has a GPS antenna, a brighter display and is water resistent up to a much 
greater depth than the Series 1.

Of the above, the only difference I am concerned with is the GPS.  I have seen 
references to the Series 1 being able to give directions while you walk.  So, 
with the Series 1, is it that you can run a GPS app on the watch, but it needs 
to use 

Re: split screen on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

I have my iPad frozen in portrait mode. And I still get the split view in 
settings. So for instance in settings, down the left-hand side, you have the 
major categories like general etc. And then on the right-hand side you have 
those items that are relevant to whatever   major category has focus on the 
left. You're right about portrait mode not having the two sides for mail. I 
seldom use my iPad for mail, since the advent of iOS 10, where they broke two 
finger flick up functionality.
Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> Are you by chance talking about split screen in apps?  If so, you can put the 
> iPad mini in portrait mode, and poof! The preview pain is gone. 
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>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:41 PM, regina alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have an iPad Mini. Someone here asked about putting 2 apps, 1 on either 
>> side. I believe it was Mary who said with 2 apps it would confuse her. On my 
>> iPad on certain apps there is a split screen. Maybe I misunderstood Mary, 
>> but did you find a way to make the mini so it doesn't split the screen 
>> sometimes? It drives me batty and I usually return to my phone. Maybe my 
>> difficulty is because I started with iPhone, but if I could find a way to 
>> get the split screen off I would use it much more because the speakers are 
>> much better. Thanks for the responses even if the answer is I cannot change. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Reggie and Lex
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Re: split screen on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

To the best of my knowledge, it is not possible to change those apps which have 
the split screen so to speak. I'm thinking here of things like the mail app or 
the Settings app. I was thinking her question, that is the person who 
originally asked, was talking about the feature on iPads where you can have two 
different apps open. Which I think would be confusing. Anyway, if I'm wrong 
about being able to unify that split screen in into something that is more like 
the iPhone, I'm sure somebody is going to correct me. Smile.
Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:41 PM, regina alvarado  
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> 
> I have an iPad Mini. Someone here asked about putting 2 apps, 1 on either 
> side. I believe it was Mary who said with 2 apps it would confuse her. On my 
> iPad on certain apps there is a split screen. Maybe I misunderstood Mary, but 
> did you find a way to make the mini so it doesn't split the screen sometimes? 
> It drives me batty and I usually return to my phone. Maybe my difficulty is 
> because I started with iPhone, but if I could find a way to get the split 
> screen off I would use it much more because the speakers are much better. 
> Thanks for the responses even if the answer is I cannot change. 
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
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Re: iDentifi

[Lelia Struve]

Hello, I did not get very good results either. It was very difficult and I even 
change some settings. Ah  well. Maybe it will get better.

Lelia 

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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:56 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide dog. 
> Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador retriever 
> lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not sure why you 
> do not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? I found nothing 
> to change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. Anyway, bewildered 
> why I got good results since I have no idea how to take a picture, how far 
> away, what to put something on to take a clear picture, etc. Pics I have 
> taken before generally are blury and dark. Maybe beginner's luck? (smiley) 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Hi Regina,
> What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
> Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
> I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've left 
> it for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from that 
> one.
> It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
> different devices.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: regina alvarado
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
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> Subject: iDentifi
> 
> Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
> salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark 
> plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me 
> ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and 
> code. Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you 
> what is in your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been 
> worried to share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I 
> am taking a pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't 
> see others' pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it 
> is a fantastic app.
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
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disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

[Elise Ridout]

Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have or 
pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I cancelled my 
Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they don't offer a 
streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery Channel that is 
anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? Thank you. 
Elise 

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Re: identifi

[Jewel]

It sounds to me as though it does no more than Tap Tap See, so if that is 
correct, it is a good app, 
even though it adds nothing to what is already available, free, gratis and  for 
nothing!
I have had some most amazing identifications from TTS.
I took a photo of my backyard and it said red trailer.  Now, I thought, "what 
in all that's 
wonderful is it seeing as a trailer?"
I had a look and found that what it had identified as such had, in days gone 
by,been a trailer but 
one quite different to what would, ordinarily, be seen as one.
Many years ago, I had had a child's trike modified so that I could attach it to 
a dog, that was, in 
truth,  my guide dog who would, when he was not  filling his normal role,  pull 
it along.
I had the saddle taken off and a crate bolted on in its place, and the 
handlebars were replaced with 
a single metal shaft that attached to Buck's  harness.
I thought that TTS had, really, done itself proud  as the identification  was a 
real tour de force!

Jewel



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I just got a CD in the mail today, and it was able to tell me the artist of the 
CD, so I am also 
impressed so far.
 

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Re: split screen on iPad mini

[Pete Nalda]

Are you by chance talking about split screen in apps?  If so, you can put the 
iPad mini in portrait mode, and poof! The preview pain is gone. 

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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:41 PM, regina alvarado  
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> I have an iPad Mini. Someone here asked about putting 2 apps, 1 on either 
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> iPad on certain apps there is a split screen. Maybe I misunderstood Mary, but 
> did you find a way to make the mini so it doesn't split the screen sometimes? 
> It drives me batty and I usually return to my phone. Maybe my difficulty is 
> because I started with iPhone, but if I could find a way to get the split 
> screen off I would use it much more because the speakers are much better. 
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Re: Directvnow

[Gordon]

I just canceled mine, but it's a pain in the butt. I can't even tell you 
how I got to that area of the website because it's so anti accessible. 
But I get to keep it through December 8 and it wont bill me after the 
trial is over. Shame on you At because we know you can do better than 
you've done. I only got this because it was a new toy to play with. But 
I have practically the same thing with my Uverse app which works well.



On 11/30/2016 5:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, since I can't get into the DirecTV app, because every time I 
enter my password, which I know I'm doing right since it's I'm typing 
on a keyboard, I get put back into the password field. But isn't it 
true that the channel names are unlabeled? I suppose it's nice that 
they're sorted by channel name, but that means you have to memorize 
100 or so channels in alphabetical order? Good luck with that. I 
haven't heard anything about voice activation. Or did you mean voice 
search?. When entering your password into the app on the Apple TV, did 
you use a Bluetooth keyboard or the on-screen keyboard? I actually 
tried with both. No go. And since I entered that same password in the 
iPhone app and the android app successfully, I am sure it isn't me 
miss typing.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:16 PM, pdllogan77 - GMail > wrote:


For those of you trying out the AppleTV directvnow app ...  I’m 
finding that the guide is the easiest way to look at things ... 
channels are sorted by name .. and then moving to the right shows 
what is coming up.  If you move to the left an unlabeled button needs 
to be entered twice to play the particular show.  You can also go to 
the search and enter channel name ...
One thing I’m not finding is from what I understand it should be 
working with voice ... but not sure how that is activated and I can’t 
seem to find anything anywere online ...  if someone has figured that 
out, please post ...

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split screen on iPad mini

[regina alvarado]

I have an iPad Mini. Someone here asked about putting 2 apps, 1 on either side. 
I believe it was Mary who said with 2 apps it would confuse her. On my iPad on 
certain apps there is a split screen. Maybe I misunderstood Mary, but did you 
find a way to make the mini so it doesn't split the screen sometimes? It drives 
me batty and I usually return to my phone. Maybe my difficulty is because I 
started with iPhone, but if I could find a way to get the split screen off I 
would use it much more because the speakers are much better. Thanks for the 
responses even if the answer is I cannot change. 



Reggie and Lex

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Re: Directvnow

[Mary Otten]

Well, since I can't get into the DirecTV app, because every time I enter my 
password, which I know I'm doing right since it's I'm typing on a keyboard, I 
get put back into the password field. But isn't it true that the channel names 
are unlabeled? I suppose it's nice that they're sorted by channel name, but 
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luck with that. I haven't heard anything about voice activation. Or did you 
mean voice search?. When entering your password into the app on the Apple TV, 
did you use a Bluetooth keyboard or the on-screen keyboard? I actually tried 
with both. No go. And since I entered that same password in the iPhone app and 
the android app successfully, I am sure it isn't me miss typing.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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> For those of you trying out the AppleTV directvnow app ...  I’m finding that 
> the guide is the easiest way to look at things ... channels are sorted by 
> name .. and then moving to the right shows what is coming up.  If you move to 
> the left an unlabeled button needs to be entered twice to play the particular 
> show.  You can also go to the search and enter channel name ...
>  
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Directvnow

[pdllogan77 - GMail]

For those of you trying out the AppleTV directvnow app ...  I’m finding that 
the guide is the easiest way to look at things ... channels are sorted by name 
.. and then moving to the right shows what is coming up.  If you move to the 
left an unlabeled button needs to be entered twice to play the particular show. 
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Re: identifi

[Dave]

only if you buy it from me! lol.

-Original Message- 
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Is there a cost for this app?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:29 PM
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I just got a CD in the mail today, and it was able to tell me the artist of 
the CD, so I am also impressed so far.


I am using an iPhone 6S running the latest IOS 10.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
pattigj1...@gmail.com [pattigj1...@gmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:07 PM
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Subject: identifi

Wow, for the first time I took a picture and was told what it was.  My first 
one was of my guide dog, and it said it was a yellow Labrador retriever, and 
the next was of my other dog, a short haired brown dog on brown cushion. 
Now I am not sure they got her color right but at least it said she was a 
short haired dog.

I think I will like this app.
Patti




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Re: Logitech K811 Keyboard and Appl Music Subscription Questions

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Helga, I'm not for sure where you go to apply for the student discount since 
you are a student as far as Apple music. But they also sell the keyboards at 
your local Best Buy store as well if you have one of those close by. Now as 
regarding Apple music, you might want to call Apple to see how you get enrolled 
in the student discount.
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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Helga Schreiber  
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> Hi all! How are you all? I have some questions.   I have an  apple Wireless 
> Bluetooth keyboard that I bought from the apple store three years ago, but 
> since now I have an iPod, an ipad and  iphone,  I want to buy a keyboard that 
> allow me to paired three apple devices at the same time. I heard about the 
> Logitech K811 Keyboard, which is similar to the apple wireless keyboard, 
> where can I purchase it and how much it cost? Do any stores sell it without 
> purchasing  it   online? Just wondering. And my other question, I'm 
> considering in subscribing to apple music, but I heard that  apple music has 
> the student discount, and since I'm a university student, I'm interested 
> about that. How do I apply for the student discount? Where do I go to apply 
> for that? Just wondering. I will really appreciate any help, you  can offer 
> me regarding this matter! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and 
> God bless!
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DirecTV now on the Apple TV and on the iPhone

[Mary Otten]

Sent from my iPhone first of all, I signed up for the lovely free trial. Now I 
have some questions. I have a password. It works on my iPhone. It also works on 
the android version of the app. So I know I have the right password. When I try 
to login on the Apple TV by typing my password into the appropriate place, and 
then I activate the sign in button, I am always put back into the password 
field which has magically become empty. If there is an error message somewhere 
on the screen, I certainly can't find it, although I suppose there must be one, 
else why am I dumped back into the sign in screen? I suppose I can wait for 
cited help later this evening, but I was curious if anyone else had this 
problem.
Not regarding the iPhone app, it seems to be pretty much unusable, since there 
is no way to know what channel you are on, and all of the play buttons are 
damned. There also seem to be a whole bunch of unlabeled buttons that are 
associated with anything. I'm obviously missing something here. The channels 
tab doesn't do anything helpful. It's interesting to note that on the android 
app, when you have the guide open, each channel has a button labeled channel 
logo, guess what it's a picture? This app is so full of bad accessibility 
problems that unless my husband wants to keep it, I'm sure I'm going to get rid 
of it. Now if somebody can explain how all this stuff is together, I'm all 
ears. But thus far, it looks like the swipe order is totally screwed up, and 
exploring around the screen with your finger yields  strange results that don't 
make any sense with all the unlabeled buttons and dimmed play icons and what 
not. What a mess!
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Re: iDentifi

[regina alvarado]

I had it set to the highest info. At first I took a picture of my guide dog. 
Most times these apps just say "dog," but it said yellow labrador retriever 
lying on a brown carpet. I have changed no settings at all. Not sure why you do 
not get results. Does it tell you it has its own flash on? I found nothing to 
change flash, but it said it was an automatic flash. Anyway, bewildered why I 
got good results since I have no idea how to take a picture, how far away, what 
to put something on to take a clear picture, etc. Pics I have taken before 
generally are blury and dark. Maybe beginner's luck? (smiley) 


Reggie and Lex


On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Hi Regina,
What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've left it 
for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from that one.
It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
different devices.
Evan

-Original Message- From: regina alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iDentifi

Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan salt 
grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark plastic 
bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me ginger 
snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and code. Can 
these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you what is in 
your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been worried to 
share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I am taking a 
pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't see others' 
pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it is a fantastic 
app.



Reggie and Lex

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Re: Seeking step by step on buying a book

[Ann Smith]

Hello, I paid $9.95 per month for Kendall unlimited. They have so many books 
for the Kindle unlimited program. Mysteries, romance, every genre is covered.
And I'm thinking, you just go on the Kindle book store page to look for free 
books if you're not on kindle unlimited. Kendall unlimited like most Amazon 
services can offer you a 30 day free trial to see if you like it.
When I signed up in the summer of 2014, they also gave me three months of 
audible service for free. Now, the nice thing about Kendall unlimited you can 
have 10 bucks on your device at one time.
If you want another book, you have to going to year unlimited library and 
delete one or more books than you can replace them with books that you want. 
Even better, if you have Kendall unlimited if it has the Audible accompaniment 
there's a real savings.
That is what whisper sink is. You buy the Kindle print version, and upgrade to 
get the audible version for nominal amount of money. There are also two 
newsletters that I use to get free books.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi, do you know how to find the books that are free for the day?  I did 
> some searches but, I got nowhere...  Andy
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ann Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeking step by step on buying a book
> 
> When Kendall became accessible, immediately I bookmarked the page in my 
> Safari browser. They only book so I can be purchased through the Kindle app 
> would be the ones for Kendall unlimited. If you need anymore help, I'd be 
> glad to help you.
> I also add as many books as I can to my wish list. I'm a serious reader. The 
> candle application always also has a link where you can sign up with good 
> reads.
> Sorry about the typos. One last thing, if you add your books or anything from 
> Amazon you can filter your list by prices that have dropped. Happy reading.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>> 
>> I use the Safari browser on my ios device to buy Kindle books.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeking step by step on buying a book
>> 
>> You're going to have to use the Amazon website, not the app, to buy your 
>> Kindle book. It's not Amazon's fault. Either Apple takes a 30% cut of the 
>> price when buying a Kindle book, or they just outright stopped that type of 
>> purchase, since Apple has iBooks, and wants you to use their platform. 
>> Either way, it's annoying.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to buy a kindle editin of a kok using the Amazon app on my 
>>> IPhone, but am stuck! I'm at the point at the bombo box or PopUp that asks 
>>> to where I'm wanting the book delivered to, among which is Gera's IPhone 
>>> due to that I downloaded and installed the Kindle app onto my Phone; as 
>>> hard as I try to double-tap on the PopUp menu of IPhone dd Gera, apparently 
>>> nothing happens! I closed down cnd opened the Amazon app bot nothing seems 
>>> to work! Also I cant find anowhere onscreen the Buy button, except for Add 
>>> to litss, to which I've added the book,ut nothing works to buy the book! 
>>> Thanks for info; I'm getting very frustrated!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gera
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Re: Deleting or moving apps on an AppleTV fourth-generation using a Bluetooth keyboard

[Mary Otten]

Thank you for that information. I am definitely going to go try it. Have a 
couple of apps I want to get rid of.
Mary


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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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> To delete apps with blu tooth key board.  hold down the inter key on the app 
> you want to delete, then hit the spacebar when it says push play for more 
> options, once you do this, hit inter on delete, and inter again to confirm it.
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> I am sure this must be possible, right? But I am not having any luck 
>> figuring it out. So, any help out there?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Deleting or moving apps on an AppleTV fourth-generation using a Bluetooth keyboard

[Kliphton Miller]

To delete apps with blu tooth key board.  hold down the inter key on the app 
you want to delete, then hit the spacebar when it says push play for more 
options, once you do this, hit inter on delete, and inter again to confirm it.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I am sure this must be possible, right? But I am not having any luck figuring 
> it out. So, any help out there?
> Mary
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Deleting or moving apps on an AppleTV fourth-generation using a Bluetooth keyboard

[Mary Otten]

I am sure this must be possible, right? But I am not having any luck figuring 
it out. So, any help out there?
Mary


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Re: identifi

[pegkane52]

No, the app is free, it is a little bit tricky but once you get the hang of it, 
it does seem to work pretty well.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is there a cost for this app?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: identifi
> 
> I just got a CD in the mail today, and it was able to tell me the artist of 
> the CD, so I am also impressed so far.
> 
> I am using an iPhone 6S running the latest IOS 10.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
> pattigj1...@gmail.com [pattigj1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: identifi
> 
> Wow, for the first time I took a picture and was told what it was.  My first 
> one was of my guide dog, and it said it was a yellow Labrador retriever, and 
> the next was of my other dog, a short haired brown dog on brown cushion.  Now 
> I am not sure they got her color right but at least it said she was a short 
> haired dog.
> I think I will like this app.
> Patti
> 
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Deleting apps from the app switcher

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

When I open the app switcher, I'm on the Home button.

To delete apps, I do a flick left, then a 3 finger swipe up. After this, I'm 
back to the Home button. To delete another app, I need to do another flick left 
before deleting with a 3 finger swipe up.

I recall having once had the next app in the queue to be on screen so all I 
needed to do was another 3 finger swipe up.

Did I miss a setting? Is there a way to most effectively remove apps from the 
switcher?

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Speak screen in Kindle app?

[Connie Mohney]

Thank you for the link.  I’m sorry I took so long to respond.  It has been 
hectic around here.

Conniei

 

 

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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?

 

Likewise, I also convert my Kindle books to epub to read them with voice dream 
reader.  

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?

 

 

Hi Garry and All,

When Kindle changed their app so the status bar no longer shows while you are 
in the app, Speak Screen went away.

It only works in apps where the status bar shows.

Perhaps eMailing the developer would be a good idea.

Personally, I now convert Kindle books to ePub and read them in Voice Dream 
Reader.

Codex is a nice free piece of software for doing this.

I have a link to it on my web site: www.turner42.com

 

Hth,

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Here is the link to Kindle in the app store. It works on all iPhones.

Kindle – Read eBooks, Magazines & Textbooks by AMZN Mobile LLC

https://appsto.re/us/Lmrcs.i

 

 

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Connie Mohney  wrote:

Harry,
If you don't mind my asking, does  kindle only come with 7 plus phones?  I'm 
asking because I just went into the  app store and hit searchtyped in kindle 
and   it didn't bring up Kindle.  Thank you for answering my question.
Connie

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Shaf Patel
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no.

On 11/8/2016 7:04 PM, Harry Bell wrote:



I'm trying to use Speak Screen on my iPhone 7 Plus with latest iOS. If I open a 
Kindle book and then swipe down with two fingers or tell Siri to speak screen, 
all goes well until I turn off the screen with a tap on the power button: after 
this the iPhone carries on reading only until the end of the current page and 
then stops dead. Have I misunderstood something? Harry

 


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Re: Logitech K811 Keyboard and Appl Music Subscription Questions

[Jennie Facer]

I bought mine through Amazon for $77. It may be cheaper now.

Jenn

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> allow me to paired three apple devices at the same time. I heard about the 
> Logitech K811 Keyboard, which is similar to the apple wireless keyboard, 
> where can I purchase it and how much it cost? Do any stores sell it without 
> purchasing  it   online? Just wondering. And my other question, I'm 
> considering in subscribing to apple music, but I heard that  apple music has 
> the student discount, and since I'm a university student, I'm interested 
> about that. How do I apply for the student discount? Where do I go to apply 
> for that? Just wondering. I will really appreciate any help, you  can offer 
> me regarding this matter! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and 
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RE: identifi

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

Is there a cost for this app?

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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
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I just got a CD in the mail today, and it was able to tell me the artist of the 
CD, so I am also impressed so far.

I am using an iPhone 6S running the latest IOS 10.

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Wow, for the first time I took a picture and was told what it was.  My first 
one was of my guide dog, and it said it was a yellow Labrador retriever, and 
the next was of my other dog, a short haired brown dog on brown cushion.  Now I 
am not sure they got her color right but at least it said she was a short 
haired dog.
I think I will like this app.
Patti




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Re: A beginner using the iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

Hi there,

I would love to help with your learning. I don't charge either. Let me know if 
I can be of any assistance to you.

Jenn

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> I'm blind, and I have nobody sighted to help me with this task at this moment.
> And, is there any must-know thing?
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Re: instant pot

[Penny Reeder]

I have not found the "Smart" InstantPot on sale anywhere -- the
Bluetooth model is called the Smart Instapot!

On 11/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Amazon does have the instant pot with Bluetooth. But it is not the one that
> was on sale for $68 over this last weekend. It sells for considerably more
> than that, but they do have it.
> Mary
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>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Michael Malver  wrote:
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>> From what I could tell, the version Amazon was selling did not have a
>> Bluetooth connectivity. That's the one feature I'm most interested in.
>> Michael
>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Amazon was selling it for $68
>>> - Original Message - From: "Rhonda Hornbacher"
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>>> To: 
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>>>
 I am looking for a great deal on the Instant Pot pressure cooker.

 Any cyber deals on this product?

 Thanks
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RE: identifi

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I just got a CD in the mail today, and it was able to tell me the artist of the 
CD, so I am also impressed so far.

I am using an iPhone 6S running the latest IOS 10.

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pattigj1...@gmail.com [pattigj1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: identifi

Wow, for the first time I took a picture and was told what it was.  My first 
one was of my guide dog, and it said it was a yellow Labrador retriever, and 
the next was of my other dog, a short haired brown dog on brown cushion.  Now I 
am not sure they got her color right but at least it said she was a short 
haired dog.
I think I will like this app.
Patti




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Re: iDentifi

[Evan Reese]

Hi Regina,
What setting did you get these results with? I've tried the Text and High 
Accuracy settings and haven't been able to get it to work very well so far. 
I'll try the Low Accuracy setting next and see what that does, but I've left 
it for last for obvious reasons. I don't expect to get much info from that 
one.
It's strange that there should be such radically different experiences with 
different devices.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: regina alvarado

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iDentifi

Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan 
salt grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark 
plastic bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me 
ginger snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and 
code. Can these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you 
what is in your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been 
worried to share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I 
am taking a pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't 
see others' pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it 
is a fantastic app.




Reggie and Lex

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identifi

[pattigj1206]

Wow, for the first time I took a picture and was told what it was.  My first
one was of my guide dog, and it said it was a yellow Labrador retriever, and
the next was of my other dog, a short haired brown dog on brown cushion.
Now I am not sure they got her color right but at least it said she was a
short haired dog.

I think I will like this app.

Patti

 

 

 

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RE: Smart thermostats

[Chip Orange]

I’m afraid I found the “auto scheduling” feature so poor that we soon disabled 
it.  It was doing all sorts of “crazy” stuff because some day (such as a person 
being home for a sick day) would cause it to create a completely bogus 
scheduling pattern; or the installers or the guys who do routine maintenance 
would set it to extreme settings in order to test and service it, and these 
would become “scheduled” into the system.

 

It’s fine if you can see the scheduling patterns and easily adjust them … but 
even with a sighted wife we still disabled auto scheduling.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart thermostats

 

Why you cannot create manual schedules, the auto scheduling feature makes it 
possible for the nest to learn your preferences. I think that makes a big 
difference. I don't know what accessibility was like before, I find it to be 
reasonably good for my needs.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

Has accessibility improved?

Andy

 

From: Les Kriegler   

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Smart thermostats

Has he heard,

Well, I just learned that the nest thermostat is on sale at Best Buy for $199. 
If I had bought it at that price and got a $75 rebate, the cost would've come 
down to $125. Or thereabouts. In any event. That's not bad when you consider 
that $125 for thermostat like the nest is really good price. So if anybody's in 
the market, this would probably be a good week to check on this.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Les,

 

That depends entirely on the programs your particular hydro companies are 
running. Here in Canada they do offer rebates on some stuff, but the problem is 
that I already own a smart thermostat so even if they offered a rebate for the 
upgrade from a regular thermostat to a smart thermostat I wouldn’t qualify. I 
just went through this with lights. I had applied for a rebate for upgrading 
all the old florescent tube fixtures at my retail store to LED fixtures and 
thought I also ask the company that put together the quote to include upgrading 
about 80 light bulbs. After an on-sight inspection the hydro company said that 
because I had already changed all my old 75 Watt halogen spotlights to the 
compact florescent versions I would not qualify for upgrading these to LED. 
Both compact florescent and LED are considered energy saving even though the 
compact florescent bulbs use I think 13 or 15 Watts and the equivalent LED 
version only uses 9 Watts, still 40% less over 13 Watts. Anyhow, I still got a 
$760 rebate on a total bill of a bit over $4,000 and while I had hoped for a 
bit more it’s at least about 18% and the new LED fixtures are brighter, put out 
a nicer light and of course there is no more florescent hum, they are totally 
silent. 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart thermostats

 

You can get a rebate on smart thermostats. I bought a nest and got a $75 rebate 
from my utility company. That brought the cost down.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Nest is quite expensive, haven’t checked Honeywell, but if you want a less 
expensive option you can check www.RadioThermostat.com. I have heard before 
that the basic thermostat used by them can also be bought at Home Depot for 
around $100. The current Nest thermostat (third generation) is double that on 
Amazon.com. Of course the Nest does work wit Alexa and I don’t think 
RadioThermostat.com has that integration, but I haven’t checked lately. I have 
owned three of the Radio Thermostats for probably 5 or 6 years now, two are at 
my retail store and one is at home, they are reliable and work, the app is 
accessible and the only criticism I have is that they don’t and don’t plan to 
implement Apple Home Kit support. I will most likely at some point start 
replacing these with one that does offer it, but not at a cost of over $200 
canadian, it is after all not that difficult to ask SIRI to open the app and to 
then tap on the appropriate button a few times to raise or lower the 
temperature which is done in half degree Celsius increments.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mauricio Molina
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart thermostats

 

The Sensi is also accessible. I chose this device because it is, supposedly, 
accessible with the Amazon Echo, but I have not 

RE: Smart thermostats

[Chip Orange]

No … setup is not possible at all, and neither is advanced features such as 
programming a schedule.

 

You can set the heating/cooling mode, and the temperature; you can see the 
temperature and humidity, and you can turn on/off the fan.

 

Some of the advanced settings are sort of accessible, once you have a sighted 
person help you understand the layout at first, as these screens in the app are 
labeled with a lot of buttons which just say ?on/off”, but you cannot tell 
which setting they pertain to.

 

Finally, there are times when the thermostat cannot connect to wifi, or is 
having some other error condition, and these errors are displayed only on the 
thermostat itself, and you cannot get to them via the app.  

 

So, it’s ok if you have a roommate/partner or neighbor who could help you in 
these situations, but I cannot recommend it to a person who is blind, and 
doesn’t have easy access to sighted help.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart thermostats

 

Has accessibility improved?

Andy

 

From: Les Kriegler   

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Smart thermostats

Has he heard,

Well, I just learned that the nest thermostat is on sale at Best Buy for $199. 
If I had bought it at that price and got a $75 rebate, the cost would've come 
down to $125. Or thereabouts. In any event. That's not bad when you consider 
that $125 for thermostat like the nest is really good price. So if anybody's in 
the market, this would probably be a good week to check on this.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Les,

 

That depends entirely on the programs your particular hydro companies are 
running. Here in Canada they do offer rebates on some stuff, but the problem is 
that I already own a smart thermostat so even if they offered a rebate for the 
upgrade from a regular thermostat to a smart thermostat I wouldn’t qualify. I 
just went through this with lights. I had applied for a rebate for upgrading 
all the old florescent tube fixtures at my retail store to LED fixtures and 
thought I also ask the company that put together the quote to include upgrading 
about 80 light bulbs. After an on-sight inspection the hydro company said that 
because I had already changed all my old 75 Watt halogen spotlights to the 
compact florescent versions I would not qualify for upgrading these to LED. 
Both compact florescent and LED are considered energy saving even though the 
compact florescent bulbs use I think 13 or 15 Watts and the equivalent LED 
version only uses 9 Watts, still 40% less over 13 Watts. Anyhow, I still got a 
$760 rebate on a total bill of a bit over $4,000 and while I had hoped for a 
bit more it’s at least about 18% and the new LED fixtures are brighter, put out 
a nicer light and of course there is no more florescent hum, they are totally 
silent. 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart thermostats

 

You can get a rebate on smart thermostats. I bought a nest and got a $75 rebate 
from my utility company. That brought the cost down.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Nest is quite expensive, haven’t checked Honeywell, but if you want a less 
expensive option you can check www.RadioThermostat.com. I have heard before 
that the basic thermostat used by them can also be bought at Home Depot for 
around $100. The current Nest thermostat (third generation) is double that on 
Amazon.com. Of course the Nest does work wit Alexa and I don’t think 
RadioThermostat.com has that integration, but I haven’t checked lately. I have 
owned three of the Radio Thermostats for probably 5 or 6 years now, two are at 
my retail store and one is at home, they are reliable and work, the app is 
accessible and the only criticism I have is that they don’t and don’t plan to 
implement Apple Home Kit support. I will most likely at some point start 
replacing these with one that does offer it, but not at a cost of over $200 
canadian, it is after all not that difficult to ask SIRI to open the app and to 
then tap on the appropriate button a few times to raise or lower the 
temperature which is done in half degree Celsius increments.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mauricio Molina
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart thermostats

 

The Sensi is also accessible. I chose this device because it is, supposedly, 
accessible with the Amazon Echo, but I have not 

mlb at bat and bluetooth keyboard

[david gross]

on the news tab of at bat, there are multiple articles with headings. Using vo 
gestures and setting the rotar to headings does not isolate the headings. But 
tapping on the headings does activate the articles. Using a bt keyboard, and 
using single letter h forr headings does land on the headings, but the only 
article you can open is the first one. Every other heading still brings up the 
first article, not the actual article intended for each heading. Mlb prides 
itself on accessibility, what change can mlb make to correct this issue?

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Re: A beginner using the iPhone

[rajmund]

Hello,
I can only agree with the first part of it.  Allowing them to set 
up your email, and making you an apple ID, I wouldn't recommend 
for 2 reasons.
1) They will know those credentials of yours.  2) When it comes 
to setting it up again, for whatever reason, you may not know how 
to do it.  Whereas if you start from a simple voice over enabled, 
you will learn everything as you go along.  That's what I have 
done myself, and it has paid off.  PS.  I also help out people 
off list, if they wish...


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- Original Message -
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Hi Everyone

I believe the 4 nominees will get on to the DMSC as there are 5 
places available.  Jean, thanks for pulling this together this 
year and I wish you well and a restful time after your 
contribution to the DMSC.  I will see you all on Thursday 
morning.


Dave

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Hi all,
Today I'm going to buy an iPhone 5S.  How can I start the 
VoiceOver

after powering on the device?
I'm blind, and I have nobody sighted to help me with this task 
at this moment.

And, is there any must-know thing?

Best regards,
Daniela

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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Wayne Merritt]

For those that also missed out on the sale, the app is usually
discounted about 25 percent around Christmas. I don't use it often,
but I don't regret the purchase either. The ability to read print
independently is a good thing to have.

Wayne

On 11/30/16, Evan Reese  wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about KNFB Reader on the Go.
> I certainly learned some things that make it very appealing.
> However, as Carol noted, the price went back up, so I think I’ll pass on it
> for now, at least until another sale comes around.
> Evan
>
> From: Carol Forrester
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go
>
> Hi, I've only just got it myself but be careful because the price will go up
> after today, Carol
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 29 Nov 2016, at 02:21, Evan Reese  wrote:
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>
>   Hey Guys,
>   I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for outside
> of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there anything else? We
> were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery store with reading
> prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought that might be a
> problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have using the app away
> from home?
>   From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but I’d
> like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on my
> Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I can
> come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well then, I
> could probably get one.
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Re: A beginner using the iPhone

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, Daniela 
I also love teaching VoiceOver to iPhone newbies. 
After powering on the device triple click the home button to turn on VoiceOver. 
Once you do that you can start setting the phone up. 

Best regards, 
Maria 

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> On Nov 29, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Danijela Popović  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Today I'm going to buy an iPhone 5S. How can I start the VoiceOver
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> I'm blind, and I have nobody sighted to help me with this task at this moment.
> And, is there any must-know thing?
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> Best regards,
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iDentifi

[regina alvarado]

Very impressed! I used iDentifi, and it told me I took a pic of himalayan salt 
grinder and the name of the store where I bought it. It also said dark plastic 
bottle. Then I took a package of ginger snap cookies out. It told me ginger 
snap cookies and how much was in the bag and the company name and code. Can 
these pics be shared on FB or is there an app that will tell you what is in 
your picture and then allow you to share it? I have always been worried to 
share my pics I take as I have no vision to be certain of what I am taking a 
pic of. I would love to take pictures myself even if I couldn't see others' 
pictures. Still, even if this app cannot be used for my wish it is a fantastic 
app.



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Re: Directtv.now

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We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  Info is 
below.  But today is the direct TV now app.
Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held every 
Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller.  In 
this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
“Zoom.  Download it here
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At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 participants, so 
it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are heard just keep 
it civil.
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Come and enjoy!


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
> 
> I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem to 
> figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access them 
> frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
> well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right of 
> the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an 
> unsubscribe button. How do I use these?
> 
> Hope Paulos
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> down load it here
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their Apple TV.
>>>  
>>> Fred
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
 Subject: Directtv.now
 
 Hi Everyone, 
  
 I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a way to 
 watch on either a regular or smart tv? 
  
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Evan Reese]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about KNFB Reader on the Go. I 
certainly learned some things that make it very appealing.
However, as Carol noted, the price went back up, so I think I’ll pass on it for 
now, at least until another sale comes around.
Evan

From: Carol Forrester 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

Hi, I've only just got it myself but be careful because the price will go up 
after today, Carol

Sent from my iPhone

On 29 Nov 2016, at 02:21, Evan Reese  wrote:


  Hey Guys,
  I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan things 
here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for outside of the 
home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there anything else? We were 
wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery store with reading prices. Those 
tags are not flat though and we thought that might be a problem. What kinds of 
experiences do any of you have using the app away from home?
  From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but I’d 
like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on my 
Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I can come 
up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well then, I could 
probably get one.
  Thanks much.
  Evan
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Re: direct tv now won't play

[Kliphton Miller]

where are you pushing the track pad on?  You don’t push it on the show, you 
push it on the unlabeled button just to the left.  You actually push it twice, 
once to highlight it, the next to play it.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Larry McCreary  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I have installed the apple tv app.  When I attempt to play a channel I get 
> the message video sdk error.  I am unable to correct this. If anyone has a 
> suggestion I would appreciate your help.  Also the guide looks nothing like 
> 100 channels.
> Thanks much.
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RE: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new look at the world

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

So far I have gotten some good results with this app.  When set to the text 
mode, it was able to identify a jar as being blackberry jam, and it was able to 
read the temperature display on the oven.

I agree that a repeat feature would be nice.  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Evan 
Reese [ment...@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new 
look at the world

No cost.
I've done some testing on it, and for me at least, it doesn't work as well
as TapTapSee does.
Quite a number of times it just quit when I gave it a picture. I would wait
for a description, and the app just closed itself. I don't mean it stopped
running, just went into the background like when you hit the Home button.
It's also more complicated to operate. First you hit the Take Photo button,
which apparently opens the Camera app. Then, you have to hit a Take Picture
button. Finally, you have to hit a Use Picture button before it will try to
identify what the picture is. Then it says "loading" and you wait for a
description, which, as I said, most of the time I never got.
I took the same pictures of several things using Identifi and TapTapSee and
TapTapSee was more informative overall and worked every time, whereas, I did
get a couple of descriptions from Identifi, but the first one was
nonsensical, and I didn't quite understand all of the second one, which
leads me to another disadvantage of this app, you can't repeat anything. If
you miss the description, you have to go through the three step picture
taking process all over again. There are three settings in it, Text, where
it will try to read the text on something, High Accuracy Image, for a more
detailed description, and Low Accuracy for a more generic description. I
tried the Text setting with a jar of handcream and a bottle of something,
which I didn't know what it was. I got the nonsensical mumbling when I
snapped a picture of the jar of hand cream, and the app just quit when I
tried the bottle of whatever. Then I switched to High Accuracy and the app
still kept quitting. Then, I closed it and reopened it and took a picture of
a shelf of books with some papers lying on them. I got a description, which
I cannot recall and cannot get the app to repeat, and I did get a
description of a picture I took of some clothes lying on a chair, which was
about the same as TapTapSee gave me.
I think this app still needs a good bit of work to catch up to TapTapSee.
I'm still impressed with that apps abilities, and I've impressed many
sighted people with it as well. With its Text setting, Identifi has the
potential to do something TapTapSee currently doesn't, but it isn't there
yet for me.
I'm using an iPad Mini 4 with 128GB, so memory is not an issue.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Casey
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a
new look at the world

Hi is there A cost for this App and if so how much?


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